June 20, 2022 • 42 mins
It’s a One Tree Hill reunion on Whine Down this week when Austin Nichols stops by! Austin and Jana look back at some of their favorite moments from filming and we find out the secret that Austin used to help Jana cry for a scene!
Hear the stories from Jana and Austin’s time as roommates and discover what might happen in an OTH reboot!
Plus, Austin opens up about baring all on his new role in HBO’s “Minx”!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. Okay,
welcome to wind down. I was like, stop talking, this
is good stuff. Um. If you can't recognize the voice,
we have Austin Nichols on Wine Own. Hello, thank you
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for having me. Um, this is fun and sorry, we
were just talking about your mullet. Well it's not a
true mullet, because you know, true mullet is party upfront. Sorry,
business upfront, party in the rear. So but my front
is long and also scraggly, so it's not a true mullet.
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But when I have a hat on, it's getting it
looks like I have a wallet a little bit. And
just I've been working, I was I was like, I
don't need a haircut. I don't want a haircut. Let's
let it go. So I'm mullets are totally in right now,
are they? Yeah, doesn't have a mullet. Yeah, sure. I
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think I remember looking one time in going I think
that's he's like the guy, the mullet guy. That's so funny.
Wait the kids are that's like the back in. Yeah,
so I can keep going with this. Yeah, apparently you
want to be a party in the front, but you
know it's a It's definitely a departure from from what
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um Julian would have Julian Julian was weird. He started
off with like a shaved head. I was giving myself
a hair cut before I started work on One Tree
Hill and accidentally the guard fell off the thing and
I shaved a line in my head. So I got
to work on the first morning and Greg Range and
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hair and makeup were like, what do you what happened?
So they had to like shave my hair down even
more and like spray paint the back of my head
when I started. So I started with like a really
really buzzed, really short haircut, and then it grew out
over the years. Okay, so the hair was a lot
shorter on One Tree Hill. And I feel like, I
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don't know, I mean like I kind of wish Julian
would have brought in some of the curls. I'm digging
the curls. Yeah, I'm embracing my natural growth and curl.
Now I'm an older man, I'm more comfortable with who
I am. Here's a question, though, if someone was to
ask you to cut your hair, would you be fine
with Because I know some actors like when I get
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into you know, they're like, I'm not not cutting it, okay.
So I never understood that because I always I want
to do what's right for the character. And if the
character has, you know, short hair, if he's as a
military crew cut, if he has a pony, I just
want to do what's right for the character. So I
love wigs, I love getting haircuts. I love changing it up,
changed color, I don't care. But now that I've actually
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spent time trying, like letting it grow, it takes so long.
Girls not this. I don't think guys noticed it takes
so long to grow your hair out. If somebody says
cut it, you're like, but I spent all this growing up.
It really so hard for this hair. Can I just
say thank you for having empathy for girls, because you
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now get it, because I swear when I cut my hair, oh,
the man was like, I don't know, like seven months ago.
I regretted it instantly because you realize how long it
takes to grow out. Again. I also understand why girls
say I don't want to get my hair wet right now? Yeah. Yeah,
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always like jump in the pool, jump in the lake.
Who cares? I don't want to get my haircut or
I don't want to get my hair wet right now,
I'm like, why now I get it right? Yeah? Like
because and I don't say it with like the long hair,
like I don't. You can't really shower your hair every
day because I'm just like greasy and so. And also,
when it looks good, it looks good. You want to
keep it good for as long as you can. Is
when it looks the best problem I know. And then
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ohen Catherine, she's the bun is back. But so she
got her hair. Her hair is always in a bun.
It's got like that like curliness, curly. But we had
the Wine Down tour and she had her hair straightened.
The amount of comments that I got about your hair
was insane. And Katherine's like a crap, and I'm going
to have to do the work. I'm never gonna be
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able to wear a bun again because everybody's like, oh,
she looks great. I'm like, what did I look like before?
It's fine, it's totally fine. I'm making an appointment tomorrow.
But how do you feel that? Because it's like, I know,
it's when you read comments, right, that's one of those
things where they probably made you feel amazing, and then
also I still want you to feel amazing now in
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the bomb like you look you're Catherine. I mean, the
reality is I don't really care. I mean, I'm always
going to have the bun um. But you know, I
can go a little half and half, you know, half
fun half the week because I can't go all the
whole week without washing my hair right and I can't
straighten it myself. So I'm still going to teach her how.
I'm like, it's not that hard, girlfriend. We got this
to do it when I was younger, but it's just
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so much work. It is a lot of work. Yeah,
it's not worth it. We're gonna We're gonna go to
because we obviously have to ask Onetree Hill questions because
you know we'll get there. But I haven't seen you
when I ran into you in November at the Onetree
Hill Convention, and it had been eleven years since I
saw you, really, I think, so that's crazy. Well, I
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mean we stopped the show when it would have been
less than ten really because we're still I feel like
I feel like it's been over ten since the end,
because I remember when I directed I think I was
thirty one and that was the that was the last
two seasons. And yeah, it's been over a decade. So
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what has changed? What do you mean with what has
what has changed with you? Where from when you were
on the show too now as a as a human
like who you are, has something changed? Absolutely? I think
I was when I was younger, I was so hyper
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focused on my career and you know, finding the best
things to do and and just and go go, go,
like really really fast. And the thing that has changed
for me in the last few years has been speed
and pace of life. And I've slowed down. I tried
to breathe and relax and not eat fast and onto
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the next thing. And I was always I was always
rushing to the next thing. I feel like, and now
I truly try to take my time and like enjoy
every moment, enjoy little things like little stupid things, the
dumb things that we do all day in life, like
finding a parking space. I'm like, I got this from
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Jerry Seinfeld, um fall in love with your parking space,
And I love that because it just says, you know,
we have to do all this stupid all the time.
But if you go, oh, no, I'm going to find
the best parking space right now, and I am going
to have fun finding this parking space. I mean that's
a silly example. Well but yeah, all kinds of things
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in life like that, and I feel like I'm trying
to find joy and all this stupid stuff. It's almost
like intentions, Like you're really setting intentions of joy and
you're I really I really like that a lot. Good too.
Jan How long do you think you take to eat?
I think I take, especially as a mom like Sere.
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So this is interesting that you say this because a
lot I get a lot of dams and people saying
do you ever eat? Because whenever you're you're with the
kids and you're filming, they're always eating and you're just
kind of not eating. Um, and it's hard. I mean
I I eat fast. Yeah, I mean I do too.
But like I think about that, like, yeah, but that's
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it's a good one. It's a good one to think
about to sit down and take your time and eat.
I like it. It was really beautiful eyes by the way,
thanks really nice. And your pupils did you take acid
before you got pupils are huge, they're beautiful. Have a
concussion yeah, it's not going to start breaking out, thank you, no,
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but there is something in what you just said because
coming in a little baby um with even when we
were working out earlier, I would just I laid down
and I was just like I just started to breathe,
and I'm like, I have not taken a breath in
like three weeks because if I had the kids so
much and in just like the tour and moving in fact,
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it's just it felt so nice to just breathe. Absolutely,
it was so relaxing. And then again like the in
the intention of like I said this to um, I
went where was I want somewhere just for a fun
little day trip, and I said every interaction I want
to I know I said this before I choose joy,
but just be so like with the flight attendant, I
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was like, Hi, how are like a like actual genuine
conversations and interest and not fake, but just be like
really care about what they're saying, and then my intentions
of what I'm saying, And it felt awesome. I was
so much happier. Absolutely, it's so easy to breathe through
those wo be like I gotta go. Yeah, but like
I'm on a road trip, right now And I did
the same thing yesterday. I was in Memphis getting coffee
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and this lady was like, tell me about your van,
tell me about your dog. And I sat there and
talked to her. I tried to talk to her for
a while and really answer a questions. Same thing. It
just makes you feel better, I think too, Like I
felt happier doing that instead of just passing I have
to go to go to the important. It takes the
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focus off yourself, honestly, Like if you're actually taking time
to speak to someone else and hearing them out kind
of takes you out of your own focus on yourself
because we're all naturally focusing on ourself the majority of
the day, if we're honest, So it's kind of nice
to take that break and listen to somebody else and yeah,
and make other people like smile, Like when Cathy the
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check and lady with the tickets, I was like, how
are you you know, genuinely, like I really want to know,
Like how are you? I love? Um, what is one
thing that you think you still struggle with that you
would like to do some more growth with. That's a
good one, Um, I think I think. I don't know.
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I feel like it might be wrapped up in the
In the same answer, I I guess I cared a
lot about um being really good at what I do,
and and I wanted other people to think I was good.
And there's not necess certaly anything wrong with that. But
if I think, if you worry about it too much,
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it can be dangerous. And I mean, I think we
all feel like, I feel like we all want to
be good at something, or we want to be recognized,
or we want people to go, oh, you know, here's
not an award, but like here's you know, recognition. But
I feel like maybe maybe I cared too much when
I was young about stuff like that, and I'm I've
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let or m letting that go entirely like I don't
really care right now, and you know you're good now,
but like the confidence right, like you know you've got credits,
you're directly you you you know you're good, right. I
think I'm good at some things, yeah, I mean, yeah,
I think I'm good at some things. I think I'm
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not great at some things. Also, well, no one's perfect,
and even there's always work, there's all you can always,
I don't know, you can always strive to be better
and all that, but but truly now I'm like, I
don't care. I want to have as much fun as
I can in these moments, and like where I am working,
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I want to work with great people who are nice
and lovely and care about what they're doing too, and
have as much fun with them as I can and
and go home. And you know, so that's that's definitely.
I mean, you asked if where I still need work,
and I definitely haven't mastered. I haven't mastered that yet.
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But that's that's something, Okay. I like that. That's something
I will say. You are. I mean, you're obviously everyone
that knows you and watched your stuff, you're incredibly talented.
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But I'll never forget there was one moment where when
two of my best scenes was with you. Um. One
when we were sitting on the couch that I hate
myself when I'm quiet, um. And then the other one
was when I was so drained from filming that um
where I was crying a bunch when all there are
you know, the attempted suicide and all that stuff happened,
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and I couldn't cry, and you held my hands and
you were just like just look at me and I
was like, awesome, I can't, I can't, I can't, I
can't cry, Like I just I can't do this, and
You're like just look at me, and you were like
squeezing my hands and then it was like water works
and like that was such a gift as an actor
that you gave to me, and it was on my side,
like you you know, you didn't need to do that,
and you were just not only are incredibly talented, but
you're a very giving actor too, And I'll never forget that.
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I'll never forget that moment that was. You remember it too,
of course, I'll never forget that because often as actors,
we we're just the other actor in the scene and
there are moments where we can't help each other and
it's there's sometimes hard to find and hard to figure out,
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but it can happen. And um, I love that that
just happened spontaneously and and um it did. Yeah, it was.
It was cool, and that doesn't happen all the time.
I've no and I've also taken that and like the
when I was doing one of my last films, I
remember like this girl was struggling and I was just
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I did what you did? And it's like there's to
connect with someone else and just be present and not
worry about you don't need to do it right the
second and just just sit and stare and like look
at me. And then like that girl just started and
I was like, I did it, Austin, that's good, that's
so great. Yeah, but I just I never I never
forgot that. So um Catherine, Yes, So Austin is on
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a new show that we we watched. Yes, I had to.
I had I had to ask him, and I did.
I asked him. So they were real? I told you, well,
I thought maybe they're about half and half. Okay, go ahead, Austin.
The new show that you're on, Le's plug it right now, okay.
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Um Minx on HBO Max is the really really cool idea.
I love the show. It's about a woman in the
seventies who has a feminist magazine that she's trying to
get off the ground and everywhere she goes as a no.
And she's at this big conference for magazine people and
she meets a guy who's a porn publisher and he says,
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I like your idea. I'll make your magazine, but it
has to have naked men. In it, So it's sentially
essentially about the first UM female porno mac or like
the first um porno magra. There's male naked men and um,
it's brilliant Idea. Ellen Rappaport created it and she's fantastic,
And RACHELI Goldenberg is directing a bunch of the episodes.
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She's fantastic. She's done a bunch of great movies. UM.
I was thrilled to get the call and until they said,
you know, uh, full frontal nudity, and I was like, wait,
oh lord, I mean I got admit. I've fast forwarded
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after about the gosh, I don't know tent one that
I saw like it just the first episode. They were
just close up, literally one after another after another, and
it was it wasn't just she was she was screaming
and I come running into the room and I'm like, what,
I just see balls and dick flapping up and down,
all kinds of different shapes and sizes and flavors. I mean,
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it was it was something. It was yeah, okay, but
I'm gonna I'm gonna sit back and just let you
just try to figure out this question. Just I'm just
gonna let you squirm in this moment as your best friend.
That's a lot of questions. Okay, So, first of all,
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those were real as far as I know that sequence
where it was like all the close ups, I think
those were all real. If it wasn't all of them,
it was most of them, because sometimes they're not real, right, Yeah,
And sometimes like look, they do an amazing job with
prosthetics and and my favorite, my favorite word, merkin, the
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pubic wig. The merkin is such a fun word, and
they do an amazing job with that stuff. But every
once in a while, yeah you can tell. I mean,
you just can't write. Maybe you can't. Maybe you can't.
I don't know, I don't know. We had this disagreement
as they were flashing on because I thought that they
were real. You thought that they weren't real. And there's
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always like, what's that casting call say when they put
out that breakdown exactly need real dicks. Um. Well, that's
where it takes me to my next question. So you
got the call and it says it tells you on
the front end full frontal nudity. So you're saying you're
also when naked in there? Yeah, I just missed it. Okay,
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I got it, all right, just make sure. Well I
don't know if I missed it. I don't know because
I just got so you know, well you probably haven't
gotten to my episode yet because you wouldn't miss it. Okay, okay,
but it's not But it's not your dick though, I'll
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never tell you told me. It's a prosthetics. So the thing,
the whole thing. Can I ask a question about that?
Some spoilers coming, just so you know, Um, yes, you
can ask whatever you want first. So the thing was
that spoiler? Or you know, turn off for a second
if you want. Um. No, I don't think anyone's going
to turn off My character, Billy Bronson, he's a he's
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a quarterback. He's like when Super won Super Bowls, they
call him the goat. He's you know, been in the
league for a really long time. He's the Southern is
and awful, a little awful, misogynistic quarterback. Um. The whole
point is that he wanted to um pose direct for
the magazine, and everybody the magazine starts going what what
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the heck, what the heck? We can't do this, we
can't do this, we can't do this. He comes out
in a robe and he is, he's up and you know,
and then the whole thing takes place. I won't say anymore.
So you can go watch it and enjoy it. But
you know the logistics of shooting a scene. You know,
it takes half a day or all day to shoot
a scene. So it's like, how I mean, they couldn't
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ask me to take you know, six doses of viagraph?
But would you have? No? No, no no, But like keeah,
a guy just get it hard when he wants to
get it hard, but for six hours, uh, in front
of a bunch of strangers, constantly with a camera lights
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on you and then constantly if it, you know, dips
down getting it back. Maybe some guy out there can
do it. But I don't know. That would be that
would be tough and terrifying. Well, here's my question. If
it didn't have to be erect, would you have shown
it not erect? Honestly depends on the material, the script,
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the show, the movie. Would you have done it for
the show? Well, i'd have to it would be a
different I don't know. I'd have to read the scenes
because they'd be different. Um, I'm not gonna say no. Um,
I'm also you know I'm shy and like, I don't know.
I really don't know. It's this case by case scenario.
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I've said no to most of that in the past
because shy, um, but I'm not gonna say no. But
you never know, I didn't. I never thought I would
do this, and I did this, so I don't. I
really don't know what I would do. So can we
just talk about the prosthetic part, like how did you have?
Like they obviously had to, so that was interesting because
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I had two people, you know, applying it for we
had two applications on two different days on your penis, yes,
and two people on essentially on their knees right here,
Oh my god, applying And I'll tell you what, I
didn't know how intensive a thing it is because they
have to, you know, shave all your body hair, and
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then they have to you know, put glue, apply the latex,
then put this other stuff, and then put this other stuff,
and there's all these layers of stuff before you can
put the mark in over it. And it I think
the first day it took two hours, and then the
second day it took an hour. So it's really you're
standing there buck naked for two hours for an hour
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people down there, it's very awkward, but you're you're uncomfortably
laughing a lot. And yeah, and you know, jokes are
made and it's weird and you know, but we tried
to have a good time with it and just laughing
about it. Yeah, And are you happy with the work
at the end of the day, Because it's not about
your penis, It's about the work. And so, I mean,
I love the character, I love the show. I'm yeah,
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I had a blast. And um, it was great working
with Ellen and Rachel and all the other directors. They
have a bunch of great directors, a bunch of great actors.
Jake Johnson is a dream to work with. Um. I
didn't get to work with um Ophelia. She we didn't
have any scenes together. I hope I get to work
with her someday. Um the supporting cast is all fantastic.
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I loved them. They were a lot of fun. Um Yeah,
Like overall, just great, great experience. And then watching I
love the seventies too, so watch, you know, seeing the
clothes and the sets and all that. I just love
that time period. So it was fun for me as
a viewer, you know. Yeah, I mean it's definitely something
I'm like. When I saw the pictures and watched, I
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was like, oh, this is this is this is Austin,
Like this is cool. Like you're like you're a character
and that's you do that you do. Yeah, You're welcome,
keep going because I compare to that episode. Oh man.
But and also now you're directing, yes, ma'am so Walker.
Um it's a reboot of Walker, Texas Ranger, which is
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a fun and beloved show with Chuck Norris if you
didn't know. And um, yeah, I I've been I've directed before,
directed One Tree Hill, I've made a short film and
few little things. But it's been hard to find another
directing spot. And I've been shadowing directors for years and
just talking to everybody I know and looking for opportunities.
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And um, Walker was amazing because they wanted to help
me do this and they gave me a shot. And
I love them all so much, and you know, I'll
never forget you know, them going to bat for me
with the studio and the network and saying no, we want,
we want Austin to direct. And um, I'm really proud
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of the show. It turned out really good. I hope
you guys enjoy it it. Um, I won't say much,
doesn't want to spoil it, but it's a search and risk.
It's called search and rescue. Its episode to eighteen, and
there's um, there's a hell. There's a helicopter and a
rescue element. So I got to do huge, almost like
feature film stuff with a helicopter. That's so cool. I
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mean not almost, like absolutely feature film stuff. And I
was pinching myself the whole time. It was so fun.
I love that. Okay, one't your hill look at me
because you're a super fan that I just found out about.
She likes to play up this story. Well yeah, I've
known her for eleven years, and she was like, by
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the way, I loved the show. I told you I
watched the show because I saw her singing, and that's
how I figured, oh, she's a singer. Blah blah blah
blah blah. But what I didn't say is that, like
my family got together and watched it like that just
likes the show. That's not bad. It was a great
show that we know we love. That just left a
few things out. Did you did did you did you
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love working on on your Hell? I did? I did
I love telling a story for a very long time.
It was the longest I think I've ever been a
part of a show. Yeah, I think I've done. I
thought you were. No, I've never done. Unless I'm forgetting something,
I've never done anything that long. And staying with one
character and telling something long form is really fulfilling in
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a different way. You know, you make a movie and
it's over in a few months or a few days
sometimes and it's easier to let go and forget you.
The people are easier to forget. I know it's a
horrible thing to say, but it's true. In movies, you
just you don't see you didn't spend the time with them.
And on a long running show, I mean you you
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spend so much time with the cast and crew years
of your life, and you know, you really sometimes relocate
to another place, live in another place, which is exciting
and hard. Um. Yeah, so there was, I mean a
lot of amazing things that came from it. I also
that's where I got to direct first, and that was
really great. Um, we were roommates, isn't that crazy? We
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really lived together so funny for like a year. Front Street,
Front Street, Downtown Wilmington's rooms. It was. That was so
I really love that downtown area. That was fun. I
dug it. You could walk to you know, fun dinner
spots and it was fun until the bar above us. Oh,
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I forgot about. That was so annoying because I'm like,
I can't sleep. I totally forgot about. That was the worst.
And then in the next year, you guys moved down
to the beach and I that was my favorite was
living at the beach because I love the ocean. I
love riding my bike around. Yeah, rights, Phil, that was
that was really saying favorite scene? Do you have one? Yeah?
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There was a big another rescue. It was Brooke and
Jamie went off the bridge in a car and the
car was sinking. When was that? Was I there yet? No?
I don't know, Katherine, I don't remember. I remember. I
feel like it was towards I don't remember what season
it was. How long were you on before Jane was
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I started in season six? Was seven? Okay, so I
thought you were way before me. So, yeah, car goes
over Brooke and Jamie they're sinking. I go in and
you know, I get to be the hero and it
was really fun. But it was. I just love to
do stunts. I love to do stuff in the water.
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It's it's a whole another element. It's just super fun.
I love that episode. Did you ever think Alex and
Julian would get together? No? If I'm being honest, I
(27:56):
know no. I know no one wanted to be with Alex,
and I'm just not that's not true. Well, it's funny
because I think, you know, I've often played characters that
you can relate to, that I can relate to your
struggle like you know you can relate to mine. I
often play characters that are that role in the show
or the movie where you know, I was the second
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guy or the other guy. And it's not always great.
It can be hard, but imitates life. It's like, why
can't I get the girl? Why can't I be the hero?
And you know, but that's okay, Like we all have
our our places, and you know, we're I feel like
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at the end of the day, we're stoked and super
lucky to be working and and being you know, in
these cool shows and movies. But yeah, there are times
where you're like, I will say this on the flip side,
playing villains and these roles is really fun. Like I
have talked to leading men and women who are sometimes like, yeah,
to be the more real center of the show, and
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to be a lead is so boring, Like I never
get to do anything bad, I never get to make
mistakes a point all this. So there's the flip side,
Is it's fun. Yeah, Gosh, I'm like flashing back to
and I'm like, you know, you showed the door and
I'm in, like my underwear thin and like hi, Jillian
god a pillow. Yeah. I think one of those times too. Yeah,
(29:25):
that was an interesting scene. Looking back, They're like, there
was just so many scenes that there was. It was
so fun. I love I loved what they did with
our characters though. I think it was good and at
the end of the day, I knew we would never
end up together. Well, there was respect there too. Yeah.
It wasn't like the little Sister big brother, but I
love that he was He wasn't. He could have easily
(29:47):
taken the route of I'm with Brooke and I'm gonna,
you know, be cold here, which he didn't do at first.
You did, I did a little bit. It's like a
real character character because I feel like he cared about
her and he obviously they were working together and making
(30:07):
a movie and so you know he wanted that relationship
to be healthy. But it's tricky also because you know
Brooke Is has an issue with it. Yeah. Well, I
love how we were able to become such good friends
through it too, you know, like our our kind of
um story arc was imitating not I mean minus me
(30:28):
like flirting with you, but like we became actual friends.
You know. I love that. Um, what was something that
you could leave and never go back to in life?
No intree hill in life? You're like wife, that's a
big question. Um. Um. You know, before me too, and
(30:51):
before um, a lot of this stuff started happening, we
lived in a world that was um complacent and okay
with saying that's how it is. And I think you
know we've all we all experienced that and we let
(31:13):
things slide because that was the norm, that was the
status quo, that's how things were, And that's bullshit because
looking back, that's not that's not how we should move forward.
We if we ever see something that is wrong, we
should stand up and say it, say it loud. Yeah,
(31:37):
I hear you on that one. Yep, what about you, Janna?
Which which one your question, what are something What would
you leave behind from Tree Hill days? Um, yeah, it
would be the the not having a voice with things
that made me uncomfortable. Yeah, on the show, because I
would laugh because I didn't lose my job, right, yeah,
(31:59):
you know, I yeah, so I there were some inappropriate
comments and I was just like and then I'll be like,
oh my god. Then I would go back to Sofia
or Sean Tal and be like, oh my god, like
they said they said this, and like I just laughed.
You know, it made me so uncomfortable, but you can't
say anything because I heard stories if you did say something, well,
their storylines got cut. So it was just like a
(32:20):
which sucks. And also like I think now i'd have
more balls to be like no, no, I mean I
think most people would now. Yeah, for sure. But I
think it's also my age too. I was sure. It
was my first show as a series regular, and I
came out as a recurring that ended up being a
series regular. So that was I was just so thankful
(32:43):
to have a job and money. Like I remember the
first time I got my first check as like a
series regular, I was like, oh my god. Yeah, And
that's how you're made to feel you made to feel
like you're lucky and that you have to put up
with anything that's going on because you're lucky to have
this job. Yeah, and now I'm like, okay, I have
(33:04):
we've all found a voice. We're older, and that's something
that I definitely now I'm a lot um more vocal
with my boundaries. H yeah, good, good good yeah great. Um,
So Austin moving forward? Wait, would you ever do a
one Ry Hill reboot? Because people ask all the time.
(33:24):
I don't think there ever would be one, absolutely, I
mean but where do you think people would even be?
Alex's is going to be like unloved again somewhere like
actually I think she's for yesterday? Really do tell? Yes,
it's weird. So, um, a hurricane completely wipes out the town,
(33:45):
which is not far from the truth. What could happen
because hurricanes hit there all the time. Yeah, but I
mean like it's flattened, So not flattened, but like a
lot of things are washed away and what you have
is yous go by where it's a derelict ghost town.
People left, just like in the ninth Ward in New Orleans,
(34:07):
like people left and didn't come back. And things just
rotted right and say, I don't know, ten years have
gone by fifteen whatever it is. And this is the
part I haven't worked out yet. Is the first part
is great, and I think it's a new point of
(34:28):
view comes and discovers something like, um, you know the
bones of an old building like Trick or the bones
of you know where the Red Brooks Red door, or
you know, some piece of art, some artifacts from the show,
and then it causes them to, you know, start to
(34:50):
dig into this world that was wiped away. I don't
know what happens next. Can we come back? Because I
had like a job like, yeah, that's really cool, Austin,
thank you. Are you sure not a writer too? Let's
write this. That's really good. I'm serious. Yeah, we can get.
We can get it could be there could be something there.
(35:13):
What was the show? It was Veronica Mars that she
did a the go fund me. We could easily she
did a go fund me to get that, didn't she?
How that happened? I think it did. It was some
kind of raise, Like I'm pretty sure Eastan's gonna I
know he's looking up right now, but I'm pretty sure
she did some kind of support raising thing to do
(35:35):
like a one or a few. I don't know how
many episodes was. I believe that's what it was. But
I'm like, that would be so cool. There's there's a
way to do it. I think also, you know, because
I got people that are watching it. Like I had
a girl stopped me in the airport the other day
and I was like, how old are you? She's like
a nineteen And I'm like, man, this show just keeps
(35:56):
like living. And like, you know, we were talking about
Top Gun and us so good sequel, and they spent
so much obvious how much time they spent writing a
love letter to the original movie but also giving us
a new movie, and there was so much love and
(36:18):
care put into it that I think so often now
reboots I feel like they're slapped out there because it
has a title that people recognize, like let's let's remake this,
let's make this. But when you have something that's beloved,
you have to give it the spit the time to
to figure out what this new story is, what this
new reboot is. So I you know, I think if
(36:40):
if it ever happened, I hope that um a lot
of love and care is put into it. So when
your idea gets picked up and we're all back on
the show, because I'm putting it out into the to
the Ethernet, in the world, the internet, Jane is um
um would would Brook and Julian still be married? A
(37:05):
great question? That is a good question. I mean, I
I hope yes, I think yes. I always loved that.
Can I can I just stop you right there, though
there's a reason why Carry and Big weren't still married,
or like why I mean they were married, but why
he had to die? Nobody the storyline cares about. Okay,
(37:29):
I love Big, I love Big and Carry that was amazing.
But to continue to watch a show, oh, I see
what you're saying, just like to make it interesting, and
it's like it's always about Carrie and her relationships. So like, Okay,
we already saw that they're living happily ever after and
yead in the real world, that's what we would love.
But to watch again now it's like it's not interesting.
(37:49):
But I don't want to change the idea, not just
people would want that. I haven't even but gone so
far as to figure out, you know what the where
the characters are. All right, it's not my job because
it's not my show. Well it's going to be playing
out there. But okay, so one of the ideas that
I love so much, and it's what whether or not
(38:09):
you like the show or not the the By the way,
don't hate me for saying, um, Brooke and Julian not married.
I'm just saying I just think it would be more
interesting they understand. No, no, they don't. Someone do not
because the photo of like you, how dare you like
when when we post that photo and November people were
(38:30):
lived Brooke and Julie forever, like I gotta hate yeah,
But so you know, Karate Kid is this beloved movie,
right and they made Cobra Kai. Cobra Kai, whether you
like it or not, is a brilliant idea for a reboot.
(38:51):
It is a side door in it's not straight through
the front door. It is Oh no, no, we're gonna
go over here and tell this guy's story. We're gonna
tell you know. I feel like there's a way to
do it where it's thoughtful and it's something else like that,
it's something different that That's kind of where I was
thinking that you know, the Hurricane Ida would be interesting
because you could you could do something completely different. And
(39:13):
of course, of course we want to bring in, you know,
all the characters we love, but maybe they're not the center.
Ye yeah, yeah, yea yeah, And maybe they you know,
they come in at certain times and it's so exciting
because we get a dose of them. But I think
you might you need, you need to do something new,
like top Gun has a new cast of young pilots.
(39:35):
You know. Yeah, maybe I'm a therapist. Maybe Alex turns
into a therapist. That's actually probably perfect. She's not, she's
not what is she? Then she's dead and I'm kidding. No,
she's happily married with children, just trying to imitate some
(39:57):
kind of art. No, she's strong and by herself and
she loves it that way. She probably exactly. She's like,
I don't need a man. Here we go, Oh man, Austin,
what's next, bab um? I don't know. I'm I'm taking
(40:18):
a little bit of time off and traveling with my
puppy Otis and having a great time, and then you know,
I'll get back into you know, reading some stuff and
seeing But I don't know yet. Would you get on
a procedural that would run forever? I don't know see,
because I feel like a lot of times when I
asked actors out there like no like for me, I'm like,
get me a show that runs for ten years straight.
(40:40):
And then I don't even care, like I just want
something that because I want constant and then do like
the one fun movie that's like makes some money. One
thing I've learned is that to not rule anything out
and not to say no, because you never know what
could be coming. And you know, you know, procedurals aren't
necessarily my favorite thing in the world. Doesn't mean there
(41:00):
isn't there aren't great ones, and um, they can't be
really fun and you know, so I try to keep
an open mind and and see see what comes. Um.
So maybe, and what are you watching right now? Because
everyone wants to watch what Austin Minx. I'm kiddingly winning time.
(41:24):
The story about the Lakers is incredible, really really good. Um,
severance is really really very good. Um. Then stored an
amazing job with the severance. Um what else? Oh, you
told me to watch the Jessica Bile one Candy It's
so good, So it's really great. Um, I'm a big
(41:46):
fan of candy. Jessica Bill is doing I feel like
doing something she's never done and she's phenomenal. I hope
she wins all the awards. Is there supposed to be
more to that show? Or now? Is that just it?
I mean it's a true crime thing, so I think
that it. I think it's limited. And it's pressing to
me though, because when I like a show, I wanted
to last. And also, you know, Hollywood is you know,
(42:08):
if it's a big hit, they will find a way
I know, to do another season. But his story, I
feel pushed forced because it ended. But who knows. Maybe well, UM,
thank you for stopping in Nashville on your on your
road trip and UM, yeah, let's not let it be
(42:32):
ten years again? Copy that I agree? Could that agree? Um,
y'all give it up for Austin and follow him on
all the things and watch MINX and and um you're
the best. I love you, I love you. Thank you.
By
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. Okay,
welcome to wind down. I was like, stop talking, this
is good stuff. Um. If you can't recognize the voice,
we have Austin Nichols on Wine Own. Hello, thank you
(00:22):
for having me. Um, this is fun and sorry, we
were just talking about your mullet. Well it's not a
true mullet, because you know, true mullet is party upfront. Sorry,
business upfront, party in the rear. So but my front
is long and also scraggly, so it's not a true mullet.
(00:44):
But when I have a hat on, it's getting it
looks like I have a wallet a little bit. And
just I've been working, I was I was like, I
don't need a haircut. I don't want a haircut. Let's
let it go. So I'm mullets are totally in right now,
are they? Yeah, doesn't have a mullet. Yeah, sure. I
(01:04):
think I remember looking one time in going I think
that's he's like the guy, the mullet guy. That's so funny.
Wait the kids are that's like the back in. Yeah,
so I can keep going with this. Yeah, apparently you
want to be a party in the front, but you
know it's a It's definitely a departure from from what
(01:25):
um Julian would have Julian Julian was weird. He started
off with like a shaved head. I was giving myself
a hair cut before I started work on One Tree
Hill and accidentally the guard fell off the thing and
I shaved a line in my head. So I got
to work on the first morning and Greg Range and
(01:46):
hair and makeup were like, what do you what happened?
So they had to like shave my hair down even
more and like spray paint the back of my head
when I started. So I started with like a really
really buzzed, really short haircut, and then it grew out
over the years. Okay, so the hair was a lot
shorter on One Tree Hill. And I feel like, I
(02:06):
don't know, I mean like I kind of wish Julian
would have brought in some of the curls. I'm digging
the curls. Yeah, I'm embracing my natural growth and curl.
Now I'm an older man, I'm more comfortable with who
I am. Here's a question, though, if someone was to
ask you to cut your hair, would you be fine
with Because I know some actors like when I get
(02:26):
into you know, they're like, I'm not not cutting it, okay.
So I never understood that because I always I want
to do what's right for the character. And if the
character has, you know, short hair, if he's as a
military crew cut, if he has a pony, I just
want to do what's right for the character. So I
love wigs, I love getting haircuts. I love changing it up,
changed color, I don't care. But now that I've actually
(02:47):
spent time trying, like letting it grow, it takes so long.
Girls not this. I don't think guys noticed it takes
so long to grow your hair out. If somebody says
cut it, you're like, but I spent all this growing up.
It really so hard for this hair. Can I just
say thank you for having empathy for girls, because you
(03:08):
now get it, because I swear when I cut my hair, oh,
the man was like, I don't know, like seven months ago.
I regretted it instantly because you realize how long it
takes to grow out. Again. I also understand why girls
say I don't want to get my hair wet right now? Yeah. Yeah,
(03:30):
always like jump in the pool, jump in the lake.
Who cares? I don't want to get my haircut or
I don't want to get my hair wet right now,
I'm like, why now I get it right? Yeah? Like
because and I don't say it with like the long hair,
like I don't. You can't really shower your hair every
day because I'm just like greasy and so. And also,
when it looks good, it looks good. You want to
keep it good for as long as you can. Is
when it looks the best problem I know. And then
(03:53):
ohen Catherine, she's the bun is back. But so she
got her hair. Her hair is always in a bun.
It's got like that like curliness, curly. But we had
the Wine Down tour and she had her hair straightened.
The amount of comments that I got about your hair
was insane. And Katherine's like a crap, and I'm going
to have to do the work. I'm never gonna be
(04:15):
able to wear a bun again because everybody's like, oh,
she looks great. I'm like, what did I look like before?
It's fine, it's totally fine. I'm making an appointment tomorrow.
But how do you feel that? Because it's like, I know,
it's when you read comments, right, that's one of those
things where they probably made you feel amazing, and then
also I still want you to feel amazing now in
(04:37):
the bomb like you look you're Catherine. I mean, the
reality is I don't really care. I mean, I'm always
going to have the bun um. But you know, I
can go a little half and half, you know, half
fun half the week because I can't go all the
whole week without washing my hair right and I can't
straighten it myself. So I'm still going to teach her how.
I'm like, it's not that hard, girlfriend. We got this
to do it when I was younger, but it's just
(04:59):
so much work. It is a lot of work. Yeah,
it's not worth it. We're gonna We're gonna go to
because we obviously have to ask Onetree Hill questions because
you know we'll get there. But I haven't seen you
when I ran into you in November at the Onetree
Hill Convention, and it had been eleven years since I
saw you, really, I think, so that's crazy. Well, I
(05:23):
mean we stopped the show when it would have been
less than ten really because we're still I feel like
I feel like it's been over ten since the end,
because I remember when I directed I think I was
thirty one and that was the that was the last
two seasons. And yeah, it's been over a decade. So
(05:46):
what has changed? What do you mean with what has
what has changed with you? Where from when you were
on the show too now as a as a human
like who you are, has something changed? Absolutely? I think
I was when I was younger, I was so hyper
(06:08):
focused on my career and you know, finding the best
things to do and and just and go go, go,
like really really fast. And the thing that has changed
for me in the last few years has been speed
and pace of life. And I've slowed down. I tried
to breathe and relax and not eat fast and onto
(06:34):
the next thing. And I was always I was always
rushing to the next thing. I feel like, and now
I truly try to take my time and like enjoy
every moment, enjoy little things like little stupid things, the
dumb things that we do all day in life, like
finding a parking space. I'm like, I got this from
(06:56):
Jerry Seinfeld, um fall in love with your parking space,
And I love that because it just says, you know,
we have to do all this stupid all the time.
But if you go, oh, no, I'm going to find
the best parking space right now, and I am going
to have fun finding this parking space. I mean that's
a silly example. Well but yeah, all kinds of things
(07:16):
in life like that, and I feel like I'm trying
to find joy and all this stupid stuff. It's almost
like intentions, Like you're really setting intentions of joy and
you're I really I really like that a lot. Good too.
Jan How long do you think you take to eat?
I think I take, especially as a mom like Sere.
(07:39):
So this is interesting that you say this because a
lot I get a lot of dams and people saying
do you ever eat? Because whenever you're you're with the
kids and you're filming, they're always eating and you're just
kind of not eating. Um, and it's hard. I mean
I I eat fast. Yeah, I mean I do too.
But like I think about that, like, yeah, but that's
(08:00):
it's a good one. It's a good one to think
about to sit down and take your time and eat.
I like it. It was really beautiful eyes by the way,
thanks really nice. And your pupils did you take acid
before you got pupils are huge, they're beautiful. Have a
concussion yeah, it's not going to start breaking out, thank you, no,
(08:24):
but there is something in what you just said because
coming in a little baby um with even when we
were working out earlier, I would just I laid down
and I was just like I just started to breathe,
and I'm like, I have not taken a breath in
like three weeks because if I had the kids so
much and in just like the tour and moving in fact,
(08:48):
it's just it felt so nice to just breathe. Absolutely,
it was so relaxing. And then again like the in
the intention of like I said this to um, I
went where was I want somewhere just for a fun
little day trip, and I said every interaction I want
to I know I said this before I choose joy,
but just be so like with the flight attendant, I
(09:11):
was like, Hi, how are like a like actual genuine
conversations and interest and not fake, but just be like
really care about what they're saying, and then my intentions
of what I'm saying, And it felt awesome. I was
so much happier. Absolutely, it's so easy to breathe through
those wo be like I gotta go. Yeah, but like
I'm on a road trip, right now And I did
the same thing yesterday. I was in Memphis getting coffee
(09:33):
and this lady was like, tell me about your van,
tell me about your dog. And I sat there and
talked to her. I tried to talk to her for
a while and really answer a questions. Same thing. It
just makes you feel better, I think too, Like I
felt happier doing that instead of just passing I have
to go to go to the important. It takes the
(09:53):
focus off yourself, honestly, Like if you're actually taking time
to speak to someone else and hearing them out kind
of takes you out of your own focus on yourself
because we're all naturally focusing on ourself the majority of
the day, if we're honest, So it's kind of nice
to take that break and listen to somebody else and yeah,
and make other people like smile, Like when Cathy the
(10:16):
check and lady with the tickets, I was like, how
are you you know, genuinely, like I really want to know,
Like how are you? I love? Um, what is one
thing that you think you still struggle with that you
would like to do some more growth with. That's a
good one, Um, I think I think. I don't know.
(10:42):
I feel like it might be wrapped up in the
In the same answer, I I guess I cared a
lot about um being really good at what I do,
and and I wanted other people to think I was good.
And there's not necess certaly anything wrong with that. But
if I think, if you worry about it too much,
(11:03):
it can be dangerous. And I mean, I think we
all feel like, I feel like we all want to
be good at something, or we want to be recognized,
or we want people to go, oh, you know, here's
not an award, but like here's you know, recognition. But
I feel like maybe maybe I cared too much when
I was young about stuff like that, and I'm I've
(11:25):
let or m letting that go entirely like I don't
really care right now, and you know you're good now,
but like the confidence right, like you know you've got credits,
you're directly you you you know you're good, right. I
think I'm good at some things, yeah, I mean, yeah,
I think I'm good at some things. I think I'm
(11:46):
not great at some things. Also, well, no one's perfect,
and even there's always work, there's all you can always,
I don't know, you can always strive to be better
and all that, but but truly now I'm like, I
don't care. I want to have as much fun as
I can in these moments, and like where I am working,
(12:07):
I want to work with great people who are nice
and lovely and care about what they're doing too, and
have as much fun with them as I can and
and go home. And you know, so that's that's definitely.
I mean, you asked if where I still need work,
and I definitely haven't mastered. I haven't mastered that yet.
(12:29):
But that's that's something, Okay. I like that. That's something
I will say. You are. I mean, you're obviously everyone
that knows you and watched your stuff, you're incredibly talented.
(12:51):
But I'll never forget there was one moment where when
two of my best scenes was with you. Um. One
when we were sitting on the couch that I hate
myself when I'm quiet, um. And then the other one
was when I was so drained from filming that um
where I was crying a bunch when all there are
you know, the attempted suicide and all that stuff happened,
(13:13):
and I couldn't cry, and you held my hands and
you were just like just look at me and I
was like, awesome, I can't, I can't, I can't, I
can't cry, Like I just I can't do this, and
You're like just look at me, and you were like
squeezing my hands and then it was like water works
and like that was such a gift as an actor
that you gave to me, and it was on my side,
like you you know, you didn't need to do that,
and you were just not only are incredibly talented, but
you're a very giving actor too, And I'll never forget that.
(13:36):
I'll never forget that moment that was. You remember it too,
of course, I'll never forget that because often as actors,
we we're just the other actor in the scene and
there are moments where we can't help each other and
it's there's sometimes hard to find and hard to figure out,
(13:57):
but it can happen. And um, I love that that
just happened spontaneously and and um it did. Yeah, it was.
It was cool, and that doesn't happen all the time.
I've no and I've also taken that and like the
when I was doing one of my last films, I
remember like this girl was struggling and I was just
(14:18):
I did what you did? And it's like there's to
connect with someone else and just be present and not
worry about you don't need to do it right the
second and just just sit and stare and like look
at me. And then like that girl just started and
I was like, I did it, Austin, that's good, that's
so great. Yeah, but I just I never I never
forgot that. So um Catherine, Yes, So Austin is on
(14:41):
a new show that we we watched. Yes, I had to.
I had I had to ask him, and I did.
I asked him. So they were real? I told you, well,
I thought maybe they're about half and half. Okay, go ahead, Austin.
The new show that you're on, Le's plug it right now, okay.
(15:01):
Um Minx on HBO Max is the really really cool idea.
I love the show. It's about a woman in the
seventies who has a feminist magazine that she's trying to
get off the ground and everywhere she goes as a no.
And she's at this big conference for magazine people and
she meets a guy who's a porn publisher and he says,
(15:24):
I like your idea. I'll make your magazine, but it
has to have naked men. In it, So it's sentially
essentially about the first UM female porno mac or like
the first um porno magra. There's male naked men and um,
it's brilliant Idea. Ellen Rappaport created it and she's fantastic,
And RACHELI Goldenberg is directing a bunch of the episodes.
(15:48):
She's fantastic. She's done a bunch of great movies. UM.
I was thrilled to get the call and until they said,
you know, uh, full frontal nudity, and I was like, wait,
oh lord, I mean I got admit. I've fast forwarded
(16:14):
after about the gosh, I don't know tent one that
I saw like it just the first episode. They were
just close up, literally one after another after another, and
it was it wasn't just she was she was screaming
and I come running into the room and I'm like, what,
I just see balls and dick flapping up and down,
all kinds of different shapes and sizes and flavors. I mean,
(16:39):
it was it was something. It was yeah, okay, but
I'm gonna I'm gonna sit back and just let you
just try to figure out this question. Just I'm just
gonna let you squirm in this moment as your best friend.
That's a lot of questions. Okay, So, first of all,
(16:59):
those were real as far as I know that sequence
where it was like all the close ups, I think
those were all real. If it wasn't all of them,
it was most of them, because sometimes they're not real, right, Yeah,
And sometimes like look, they do an amazing job with
prosthetics and and my favorite, my favorite word, merkin, the
(17:21):
pubic wig. The merkin is such a fun word, and
they do an amazing job with that stuff. But every
once in a while, yeah you can tell. I mean,
you just can't write. Maybe you can't. Maybe you can't.
I don't know, I don't know. We had this disagreement
as they were flashing on because I thought that they
were real. You thought that they weren't real. And there's
(17:43):
always like, what's that casting call say when they put
out that breakdown exactly need real dicks. Um. Well, that's
where it takes me to my next question. So you
got the call and it says it tells you on
the front end full frontal nudity. So you're saying you're
also when naked in there? Yeah, I just missed it. Okay,
(18:05):
I got it, all right, just make sure. Well I
don't know if I missed it. I don't know because
I just got so you know, well you probably haven't
gotten to my episode yet because you wouldn't miss it. Okay, okay,
but it's not But it's not your dick though, I'll
(18:26):
never tell you told me. It's a prosthetics. So the thing,
the whole thing. Can I ask a question about that?
Some spoilers coming, just so you know, Um, yes, you
can ask whatever you want first. So the thing was
that spoiler? Or you know, turn off for a second
if you want. Um. No, I don't think anyone's going
to turn off My character, Billy Bronson, he's a he's
(18:50):
a quarterback. He's like when Super won Super Bowls, they
call him the goat. He's you know, been in the
league for a really long time. He's the Southern is
and awful, a little awful, misogynistic quarterback. Um. The whole
point is that he wanted to um pose direct for
the magazine, and everybody the magazine starts going what what
(19:14):
the heck, what the heck? We can't do this, we
can't do this, we can't do this. He comes out
in a robe and he is, he's up and you know,
and then the whole thing takes place. I won't say anymore.
So you can go watch it and enjoy it. But
you know the logistics of shooting a scene. You know,
it takes half a day or all day to shoot
a scene. So it's like, how I mean, they couldn't
(19:35):
ask me to take you know, six doses of viagraph?
But would you have? No? No, no no, But like keeah,
a guy just get it hard when he wants to
get it hard, but for six hours, uh, in front
of a bunch of strangers, constantly with a camera lights
(19:56):
on you and then constantly if it, you know, dips
down getting it back. Maybe some guy out there can
do it. But I don't know. That would be that
would be tough and terrifying. Well, here's my question. If
it didn't have to be erect, would you have shown
it not erect? Honestly depends on the material, the script,
(20:22):
the show, the movie. Would you have done it for
the show? Well, i'd have to it would be a
different I don't know. I'd have to read the scenes
because they'd be different. Um, I'm not gonna say no. Um,
I'm also you know I'm shy and like, I don't know.
I really don't know. It's this case by case scenario.
(20:44):
I've said no to most of that in the past
because shy, um, but I'm not gonna say no. But
you never know, I didn't. I never thought I would
do this, and I did this, so I don't. I
really don't know what I would do. So can we
just talk about the prosthetic part, like how did you have?
Like they obviously had to, so that was interesting because
(21:06):
I had two people, you know, applying it for we
had two applications on two different days on your penis, yes,
and two people on essentially on their knees right here,
Oh my god, applying And I'll tell you what, I
didn't know how intensive a thing it is because they
have to, you know, shave all your body hair, and
(21:27):
then they have to you know, put glue, apply the latex,
then put this other stuff, and then put this other stuff,
and there's all these layers of stuff before you can
put the mark in over it. And it I think
the first day it took two hours, and then the
second day it took an hour. So it's really you're
standing there buck naked for two hours for an hour
(21:48):
people down there, it's very awkward, but you're you're uncomfortably
laughing a lot. And yeah, and you know, jokes are
made and it's weird and you know, but we tried
to have a good time with it and just laughing
about it. Yeah, And are you happy with the work
at the end of the day, Because it's not about
your penis, It's about the work. And so, I mean,
I love the character, I love the show. I'm yeah,
(22:09):
I had a blast. And um, it was great working
with Ellen and Rachel and all the other directors. They
have a bunch of great directors, a bunch of great actors.
Jake Johnson is a dream to work with. Um. I
didn't get to work with um Ophelia. She we didn't
have any scenes together. I hope I get to work
with her someday. Um the supporting cast is all fantastic.
(22:31):
I loved them. They were a lot of fun. Um Yeah,
Like overall, just great, great experience. And then watching I
love the seventies too, so watch, you know, seeing the
clothes and the sets and all that. I just love
that time period. So it was fun for me as
a viewer, you know. Yeah, I mean it's definitely something
I'm like. When I saw the pictures and watched, I
(22:51):
was like, oh, this is this is this is Austin,
Like this is cool. Like you're like you're a character
and that's you do that you do. Yeah, You're welcome,
keep going because I compare to that episode. Oh man.
But and also now you're directing, yes, ma'am so Walker.
Um it's a reboot of Walker, Texas Ranger, which is
(23:15):
a fun and beloved show with Chuck Norris if you
didn't know. And um, yeah, I I've been I've directed before,
directed One Tree Hill, I've made a short film and
few little things. But it's been hard to find another
directing spot. And I've been shadowing directors for years and
just talking to everybody I know and looking for opportunities.
(23:36):
And um, Walker was amazing because they wanted to help
me do this and they gave me a shot. And
I love them all so much, and you know, I'll
never forget you know, them going to bat for me
with the studio and the network and saying no, we want,
we want Austin to direct. And um, I'm really proud
(23:56):
of the show. It turned out really good. I hope
you guys enjoy it it. Um, I won't say much,
doesn't want to spoil it, but it's a search and risk.
It's called search and rescue. Its episode to eighteen, and
there's um, there's a hell. There's a helicopter and a
rescue element. So I got to do huge, almost like
feature film stuff with a helicopter. That's so cool. I
(24:18):
mean not almost, like absolutely feature film stuff. And I
was pinching myself the whole time. It was so fun.
I love that. Okay, one't your hill look at me
because you're a super fan that I just found out about.
She likes to play up this story. Well yeah, I've
known her for eleven years, and she was like, by
(24:40):
the way, I loved the show. I told you I
watched the show because I saw her singing, and that's
how I figured, oh, she's a singer. Blah blah blah
blah blah. But what I didn't say is that, like
my family got together and watched it like that just
likes the show. That's not bad. It was a great
show that we know we love. That just left a
few things out. Did you did did you did you
(25:02):
love working on on your Hell? I did? I did
I love telling a story for a very long time.
It was the longest I think I've ever been a
part of a show. Yeah, I think I've done. I
thought you were. No, I've never done. Unless I'm forgetting something,
I've never done anything that long. And staying with one
character and telling something long form is really fulfilling in
(25:25):
a different way. You know, you make a movie and
it's over in a few months or a few days
sometimes and it's easier to let go and forget you.
The people are easier to forget. I know it's a
horrible thing to say, but it's true. In movies, you
just you don't see you didn't spend the time with them.
And on a long running show, I mean you you
(25:45):
spend so much time with the cast and crew years
of your life, and you know, you really sometimes relocate
to another place, live in another place, which is exciting
and hard. Um. Yeah, so there was, I mean a
lot of amazing things that came from it. I also
that's where I got to direct first, and that was
really great. Um, we were roommates, isn't that crazy? We
(26:07):
really lived together so funny for like a year. Front Street,
Front Street, Downtown Wilmington's rooms. It was. That was so
I really love that downtown area. That was fun. I
dug it. You could walk to you know, fun dinner
spots and it was fun until the bar above us. Oh,
(26:27):
I forgot about. That was so annoying because I'm like,
I can't sleep. I totally forgot about. That was the worst.
And then in the next year, you guys moved down
to the beach and I that was my favorite was
living at the beach because I love the ocean. I
love riding my bike around. Yeah, rights, Phil, that was
that was really saying favorite scene? Do you have one? Yeah?
(26:49):
There was a big another rescue. It was Brooke and
Jamie went off the bridge in a car and the
car was sinking. When was that? Was I there yet? No?
I don't know, Katherine, I don't remember. I remember. I
feel like it was towards I don't remember what season
it was. How long were you on before Jane was
(27:09):
I started in season six? Was seven? Okay, so I
thought you were way before me. So, yeah, car goes
over Brooke and Jamie they're sinking. I go in and
you know, I get to be the hero and it
was really fun. But it was. I just love to
do stunts. I love to do stuff in the water.
(27:30):
It's it's a whole another element. It's just super fun.
I love that episode. Did you ever think Alex and
Julian would get together? No? If I'm being honest, I
(27:56):
know no. I know no one wanted to be with Alex,
and I'm just not that's not true. Well, it's funny
because I think, you know, I've often played characters that
you can relate to, that I can relate to your
struggle like you know you can relate to mine. I
often play characters that are that role in the show
or the movie where you know, I was the second
(28:17):
guy or the other guy. And it's not always great.
It can be hard, but imitates life. It's like, why
can't I get the girl? Why can't I be the hero?
And you know, but that's okay, Like we all have
our our places, and you know, we're I feel like
(28:40):
at the end of the day, we're stoked and super
lucky to be working and and being you know, in
these cool shows and movies. But yeah, there are times
where you're like, I will say this on the flip side,
playing villains and these roles is really fun. Like I
have talked to leading men and women who are sometimes like, yeah,
to be the more real center of the show, and
(29:01):
to be a lead is so boring, Like I never
get to do anything bad, I never get to make
mistakes a point all this. So there's the flip side,
Is it's fun. Yeah, Gosh, I'm like flashing back to
and I'm like, you know, you showed the door and
I'm in, like my underwear thin and like hi, Jillian
god a pillow. Yeah. I think one of those times too. Yeah,
(29:25):
that was an interesting scene. Looking back, They're like, there
was just so many scenes that there was. It was
so fun. I love I loved what they did with
our characters though. I think it was good and at
the end of the day, I knew we would never
end up together. Well, there was respect there too. Yeah.
It wasn't like the little Sister big brother, but I
love that he was He wasn't. He could have easily
(29:47):
taken the route of I'm with Brooke and I'm gonna,
you know, be cold here, which he didn't do at first.
You did, I did a little bit. It's like a
real character character because I feel like he cared about
her and he obviously they were working together and making
(30:07):
a movie and so you know he wanted that relationship
to be healthy. But it's tricky also because you know
Brooke Is has an issue with it. Yeah. Well, I
love how we were able to become such good friends
through it too, you know, like our our kind of
um story arc was imitating not I mean minus me
(30:28):
like flirting with you, but like we became actual friends.
You know. I love that. Um, what was something that
you could leave and never go back to in life?
No intree hill in life? You're like wife, that's a
big question. Um. Um. You know, before me too, and
(30:51):
before um, a lot of this stuff started happening, we
lived in a world that was um complacent and okay
with saying that's how it is. And I think you
know we've all we all experienced that and we let
(31:13):
things slide because that was the norm, that was the
status quo, that's how things were, And that's bullshit because
looking back, that's not that's not how we should move forward.
We if we ever see something that is wrong, we
should stand up and say it, say it loud. Yeah,
(31:37):
I hear you on that one. Yep, what about you, Janna?
Which which one your question, what are something What would
you leave behind from Tree Hill days? Um, yeah, it
would be the the not having a voice with things
that made me uncomfortable. Yeah, on the show, because I
would laugh because I didn't lose my job, right, yeah,
(31:59):
you know, I yeah, so I there were some inappropriate
comments and I was just like and then I'll be like,
oh my god. Then I would go back to Sofia
or Sean Tal and be like, oh my god, like
they said they said this, and like I just laughed.
You know, it made me so uncomfortable, but you can't
say anything because I heard stories if you did say something, well,
their storylines got cut. So it was just like a
(32:20):
which sucks. And also like I think now i'd have
more balls to be like no, no, I mean I
think most people would now. Yeah, for sure. But I
think it's also my age too. I was sure. It
was my first show as a series regular, and I
came out as a recurring that ended up being a
series regular. So that was I was just so thankful
(32:43):
to have a job and money. Like I remember the
first time I got my first check as like a
series regular, I was like, oh my god. Yeah, And
that's how you're made to feel you made to feel
like you're lucky and that you have to put up
with anything that's going on because you're lucky to have
this job. Yeah, and now I'm like, okay, I have
(33:04):
we've all found a voice. We're older, and that's something
that I definitely now I'm a lot um more vocal
with my boundaries. H yeah, good, good good yeah great. Um,
So Austin moving forward? Wait, would you ever do a
one Ry Hill reboot? Because people ask all the time.
(33:24):
I don't think there ever would be one, absolutely, I
mean but where do you think people would even be?
Alex's is going to be like unloved again somewhere like
actually I think she's for yesterday? Really do tell? Yes,
it's weird. So, um, a hurricane completely wipes out the town,
(33:45):
which is not far from the truth. What could happen
because hurricanes hit there all the time. Yeah, but I
mean like it's flattened, So not flattened, but like a
lot of things are washed away and what you have
is yous go by where it's a derelict ghost town.
People left, just like in the ninth Ward in New Orleans,
(34:07):
like people left and didn't come back. And things just
rotted right and say, I don't know, ten years have
gone by fifteen whatever it is. And this is the
part I haven't worked out yet. Is the first part
is great, and I think it's a new point of
(34:28):
view comes and discovers something like, um, you know the
bones of an old building like Trick or the bones
of you know where the Red Brooks Red door, or
you know, some piece of art, some artifacts from the show,
and then it causes them to, you know, start to
(34:50):
dig into this world that was wiped away. I don't
know what happens next. Can we come back? Because I
had like a job like, yeah, that's really cool, Austin,
thank you. Are you sure not a writer too? Let's
write this. That's really good. I'm serious. Yeah, we can get.
We can get it could be there could be something there.
(35:13):
What was the show? It was Veronica Mars that she
did a the go fund me. We could easily she
did a go fund me to get that, didn't she?
How that happened? I think it did. It was some
kind of raise, Like I'm pretty sure Eastan's gonna I
know he's looking up right now, but I'm pretty sure
she did some kind of support raising thing to do
(35:35):
like a one or a few. I don't know how
many episodes was. I believe that's what it was. But
I'm like, that would be so cool. There's there's a
way to do it. I think also, you know, because
I got people that are watching it. Like I had
a girl stopped me in the airport the other day
and I was like, how old are you? She's like
a nineteen And I'm like, man, this show just keeps
(35:56):
like living. And like, you know, we were talking about
Top Gun and us so good sequel, and they spent
so much obvious how much time they spent writing a
love letter to the original movie but also giving us
a new movie, and there was so much love and
(36:18):
care put into it that I think so often now
reboots I feel like they're slapped out there because it
has a title that people recognize, like let's let's remake this,
let's make this. But when you have something that's beloved,
you have to give it the spit the time to
to figure out what this new story is, what this
new reboot is. So I you know, I think if
(36:40):
if it ever happened, I hope that um a lot
of love and care is put into it. So when
your idea gets picked up and we're all back on
the show, because I'm putting it out into the to
the Ethernet, in the world, the internet, Jane is um
um would would Brook and Julian still be married? A
(37:05):
great question? That is a good question. I mean, I
I hope yes, I think yes. I always loved that.
Can I can I just stop you right there, though
there's a reason why Carry and Big weren't still married,
or like why I mean they were married, but why
he had to die? Nobody the storyline cares about. Okay,
(37:29):
I love Big, I love Big and Carry that was amazing.
But to continue to watch a show, oh, I see
what you're saying, just like to make it interesting, and
it's like it's always about Carrie and her relationships. So like, Okay,
we already saw that they're living happily ever after and
yead in the real world, that's what we would love.
But to watch again now it's like it's not interesting.
(37:49):
But I don't want to change the idea, not just
people would want that. I haven't even but gone so
far as to figure out, you know what the where
the characters are. All right, it's not my job because
it's not my show. Well it's going to be playing
out there. But okay, so one of the ideas that
I love so much, and it's what whether or not
(38:09):
you like the show or not the the By the way,
don't hate me for saying, um, Brooke and Julian not married.
I'm just saying I just think it would be more
interesting they understand. No, no, they don't. Someone do not
because the photo of like you, how dare you like
when when we post that photo and November people were
(38:30):
lived Brooke and Julie forever, like I gotta hate yeah,
But so you know, Karate Kid is this beloved movie,
right and they made Cobra Kai. Cobra Kai, whether you
like it or not, is a brilliant idea for a reboot.
(38:51):
It is a side door in it's not straight through
the front door. It is Oh no, no, we're gonna
go over here and tell this guy's story. We're gonna
tell you know. I feel like there's a way to
do it where it's thoughtful and it's something else like that,
it's something different that That's kind of where I was
thinking that you know, the Hurricane Ida would be interesting
because you could you could do something completely different. And
(39:13):
of course, of course we want to bring in, you know,
all the characters we love, but maybe they're not the center.
Ye yeah, yeah, yea yeah, And maybe they you know,
they come in at certain times and it's so exciting
because we get a dose of them. But I think
you might you need, you need to do something new,
like top Gun has a new cast of young pilots.
(39:35):
You know. Yeah, maybe I'm a therapist. Maybe Alex turns
into a therapist. That's actually probably perfect. She's not, she's
not what is she? Then she's dead and I'm kidding. No,
she's happily married with children, just trying to imitate some
(39:57):
kind of art. No, she's strong and by herself and
she loves it that way. She probably exactly. She's like,
I don't need a man. Here we go, Oh man, Austin,
what's next, bab um? I don't know. I'm I'm taking
(40:18):
a little bit of time off and traveling with my
puppy Otis and having a great time, and then you know,
I'll get back into you know, reading some stuff and
seeing But I don't know yet. Would you get on
a procedural that would run forever? I don't know see,
because I feel like a lot of times when I
asked actors out there like no like for me, I'm like,
get me a show that runs for ten years straight.
(40:40):
And then I don't even care, like I just want
something that because I want constant and then do like
the one fun movie that's like makes some money. One
thing I've learned is that to not rule anything out
and not to say no, because you never know what
could be coming. And you know, you know, procedurals aren't
necessarily my favorite thing in the world. Doesn't mean there
(41:00):
isn't there aren't great ones, and um, they can't be
really fun and you know, so I try to keep
an open mind and and see see what comes. Um.
So maybe, and what are you watching right now? Because
everyone wants to watch what Austin Minx. I'm kiddingly winning time.
(41:24):
The story about the Lakers is incredible, really really good. Um,
severance is really really very good. Um. Then stored an
amazing job with the severance. Um what else? Oh, you
told me to watch the Jessica Bile one Candy It's
so good, So it's really great. Um, I'm a big
(41:46):
fan of candy. Jessica Bill is doing I feel like
doing something she's never done and she's phenomenal. I hope
she wins all the awards. Is there supposed to be
more to that show? Or now? Is that just it?
I mean it's a true crime thing, so I think
that it. I think it's limited. And it's pressing to
me though, because when I like a show, I wanted
to last. And also, you know, Hollywood is you know,
(42:08):
if it's a big hit, they will find a way
I know, to do another season. But his story, I
feel pushed forced because it ended. But who knows. Maybe well, UM,
thank you for stopping in Nashville on your on your
road trip and UM, yeah, let's not let it be
(42:32):
ten years again? Copy that I agree? Could that agree? Um,
y'all give it up for Austin and follow him on
all the things and watch MINX and and um you're
the best. I love you, I love you. Thank you.
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