July 15, 2024 • 42 mins
Tracy Tutor from Million Dollar Listing LA is back with Jana and ready to get real about real estate!
Tracy opens up about the stigma surrounding women and mothers in real estate, and tells Jana what it takes to be at the same level as her male counterparts.
We get into “mom guilt”, and how to make a house into a “home”.
Plus, if you’re interested in career in real estate, Tracy shares the ONE detail that will help you close more deals and make bigger sales!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind down with Janet Kramer did I'mheart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, so it's almost this school year. Yet again, I
feel like summer has flown by. This is a big
mile year. It is. You. I thought, for some reason,
since our boys were the same age, they would be
going to kindergarten. I started him early. You did, which
is interesting because don't they usually hold boys back. Yeah,
(00:27):
we did a junior so we do a homeschool co
op though, two days a week, so I am his teacher.
For the most part. He was really not challenged in
his junior kindergarten program. But also I think because he
has an older sister, you know, those older kids just
kind of push you along. So I did put him
(00:47):
in kinder thought we might have to repeat kinder but
he's going to go to first.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He's going to do first. Yeah, I was wondering of.
And you're still going to do the co op right?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah? We did. Last year they offered a first second
split though grade, so I'm kind of hoping that they
would do that again. You may kind of do like
a first and then a first again because there's you guys,
it's not the same curriculum when we were little like
they're having to do everything so much earlier now that
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Is yours the same curriculum is ours? In probably not.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, but a little different just everything. I think in general,
society has got them like boosted up a bit. Like
I wasn't reading in kindergarten and now a lot of
them are reading coming out of kindergarten.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think that that's different for all
kids for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So, and then Love will be third grade. She'll still
be third I know. Sometimes in the co ops they
get a little like ahead or not ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, we stay, we stay, like we just keep we
keep on rocking. So she'll go to third grade. And again,
like it's up to my preference, you know, like I
can tailor it, which is great, but it's also tricky
because Legend is not a reader. He's a strong math guy.
And I feel like kids tend to be one or
the other.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
How long do you think you'll homeschool it for? I
don't know. I think for a while. I see it
in our little world, to our little section of the world,
with homeschooling, I see a lot of parents move to
like right around eighth or ninth they start to move
into public just because I think, like sports and things,
they just seem to want more.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I cannot imagine throwing them into public school in high school.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I can't either, Honestly. That's why I'm like, I don't know,
because that feels.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I'm not judging it. I'm just saying I can't imagine.
Just like, but actually we had a friend that did that.
I take that back, but it's just seems like that's
a lot like whoa all at once?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yet also we would take out for middle and then
put in you know what I mean, Like we've kind
of talked about that one fist. Yeah, I so it's
almost like I would homeschool middle school for sure. Then
it's going right back into the gauntlet in there.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I do think though, and I'm sure this is obviously
not true for a lot a lot of kids, but
I do think middle school seems to be a little
bit harder, oh than high school. But is that going
to be make high school kind of that new transition,
you know what I mean? Like, cause it's me, I
don't know, because transition.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
My educational capability keeping them home and I don't even yeah,
I don't even know. I mean, I don't have the
I don't. I don't know where you find the time,
you know what I mean? Like, obviously you find the time,
because that's like I find the time to work out
every morning, like you know, so we find times. I
don't know if I have the patience, so maybe it's
not the time. I don't think I have the patience
to homeschool, yes, which is why I've been like, all right,
(03:25):
you know, Alan, you know, Mike, can you guys teach
Julie how to tire shoes or bite? Because I just
I'm I'm fast to not being patient. Yeah, And also
like the kids are different, like Love loves to learn
from me, loves it. Yeah, Legend likes to learn math
from me, but he doesn't want to talk about reading. Well,
I wouldn't even know how to teach any of that,
(03:46):
to be honest. Like sometimes I read some of Joey's
homework and I'm like, wait, okay, wait, what I'm re
educating my second grade? Like it's weird how much we
forget or how much you start to second guess yourself.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, and they learn differently everybody. Well, but I'm just
saying now they learn like math, they don't learn the
way we learn how math.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's new math.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, it's crazy, And so I'm like, well, I know
the answer, but if you have to actually like put
out how you got it, I can't help you.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, it's weird. And also like there's times where I've
wondered if Legend is actually more of a public school fit,
because he five years a week feels like it could
be more comfortable to him. Oh for sure. But I
also with our lifestyle, love that I can take them
out and we can go here. I founded a loophole
you can in public school. So here's the loophole because
(04:34):
I found this out when Jolie was doing the movie,
because I was always like, well, I don't want to
pay for private school because it's expensive, even though you
can take out you know, whenever you want. But with
public you can disnroll and re enroll, and it's not
that complicated at all. It's like a one cheeter. I
have as many times as you want. Wait, so like
(04:54):
for a month, yeah, as many times as you want.
So like, for example, Jolie missed fourteen days of school,
obviously you're not so simis anymore. I think I was
like eight or whatever. And then you get in trouble.
But most people it's like between that, like twelve and fifteen.
Then that's when they're like, all right, they you have
a call with the people, the principle or whatever. And
when I had called just kind of explaining what she
(05:16):
was doing, she's like, well, if it was any more,
She's like, we'd probably just have you distan' roll and
then Rene roll. And I was like, oh, wait, tell
me more. So then I was like, how many times
can I do that? She's like, as many times as
you want. She's like people, She's like, we have a
lot of athlete kids that are in our school district
that do it a couple times a year. So like
the state doesn't get involved. Then I mean, if the
state only gets involved and the kids are not in
(05:37):
a school system, no, in a safe home, like you
can just distan' roll and ren roll. I legally have
to be registered somewhere for school, Like I have an
umbrella school, I have to read it all. So what you
would do is you would just they would have to
be a homeschooling So like she just had her like
paperwork from like school. This is to say that she's
still on this grade and doing the homeschooling, so like
(06:01):
she just gave the teacher like a packet of stuff.
They didn't really even check it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, so so that's showing that she's doing school. So
you would have to prove something that's that's like.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
My umbrella, yes, because you can't just like one off
feeling no, I can't anything. Yeah, but like you would
never not teach your kids, right, so right, but you
could still so that you could still do public and
then just in our district at least, that's what she
taught me. I was like, because it's one of the
things that I've always kind of gone okay, but we
you know, like last year, Preston had a ton of stuff,
(06:34):
like based in Florida for like January, so we just
like had a house in the neighborhood at the other
half of the duo and we just hunkered for like
a few weeks because it just kept us all a
family together. Well, I know plenty of well I know
specifically a mom whose daughter has missed like more than
twenty and like she just has a good relationship with
(06:57):
the principal and the I've heard that too, So it's
you know, as long as you're communicating with them. It's
not like you're taking them out for or they're not
safe in the home. This is and I also just
understand like the testing and all those things, like they
really do need the kids in there for attendances blah
blah blah. But also, yeah, no, they're young. It's the time, right,
It's okay too. Yeah. Well, also I think at least
(07:20):
it seems resonating, Like with our school districts around us,
everyone's more focused on like just family. We have a
really we live in a really great area for that. Yeah,
where it's like we want families to be together and
experience and right, that's incredible. So that's interesting, good to know. Yeah,
so you can keep that little tidbit in your pocket. Yeah,
(07:40):
or when you are ready for love or legend as
there's been days where I'm like public school five days
a week, I could own the.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
World, Like you don't feel like it's just a.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Weird, Like I think, like what would it be like
if they left in the morning.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, think about summer, like when you're pulled like you're
like that all the time though.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Like summer is the same as like for summer, So
everything traumatizing for me, My girlfriend and I just had
this conversation. She was like, oh, the parents go in
haywire right now, and you guys are like please yeah,
well every day I will say this though, even in
our world, like there's more structure on school in school
months and so like even lately, I've been like, Okay,
(08:19):
we need to bring some sort of like rhythm to
the house because Leggie does really well with structure. Even
though he didn't, I think everybody does. Yeah. Well, maybe
that's just a types unite hands in on three. I mean, okay,
so then our girl, I know the ages of our kids.
We all rolled together. But then you go, does anybody
(08:39):
transition to big school like.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
We did all that last year? Okay, that's right, we tried.
We started middle school and in high school last year.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So you'll bake it.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, well you're making it. Yeah, I know you'll make it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Don't scare us.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I'm just kidding, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Puberty is happening.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, I mean it's a lot. It's just yesterday.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What's puberty? I know, I said, it's a really precious
and confusing stage between childhood and adulthood. I didn't know
how to.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I mean, that's honestly I haven't, Like, I don't know,
puberty hasn't been that bad. Really, it's just your kids
are so sweet. Yeah, I mean they're great. They're just
it's a lot of the people are around them that
stressed me out.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
But that's what I'm nervous about period. It is so great.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Learned so much the other day I took I shouldn't
say this on air, but I took I took Kit
into camp the other day and uh, we were waiting
in line for like an hour to check out coed.
Well it's a church camp that is co ed, but
there's literally church camp stand same same human young yes,
(09:47):
all same. This one though, is like I'm like, oh,
come on, Like people get kicked out left and right
for stepping over the line. I'm like, okay, guys, it's
sneaking kisses at church anyway. So I so I know
he's like anyway. So we start. We just start talking
and I just start asking very I'm very good with
Emmy and asking very specific questions, and like with him,
(10:09):
I'm like, all right, we're in high school, Like I
haven't asked that. And I just started asking very specific
questions and he started answering all my questions what like
about his friends and who's doing what and who. I mean,
I could have guessed, but I didn't know for sure,
and he just like started talking and I was like,
I can't react, Like I cannot.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
React your intuition. Absolutely, I'm not ready out sweating absolutely,
like about sex.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
That's yeah, I mean leading up to it, and then
what they're getting into, like drug wise and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
What are the drugs of choice now at that age?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Weed? Right now, weed and vaping is starting.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Doctor Aman would say, and that's the worst drug you
can take, yeah, because it's a slow brain killer. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, yeah, they're doing like those cartridges again. You know.
He is so so straight laced in the sense that
like he even he's like the one friend that I
know for sure. When I found out, he was like,
just don't get it in front of me, and he's
like I never would, And I was like, well anyone
else and he was like probably, but they keep it
from me, Like he's that passionate about it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, and he's like still the cool kid and he's.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Still friends with so many kids. So but anyway, I
was just like, don't react, don't react, they'll never tell.
That's the thing that's hard. I didn't ask that specifically.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I would like you to report back.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I wanted to about a certain person, but I did not.
But he told me a story about him that was
leading up to it, and like he's a bad situation.
Caden's fifteen.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah, my high school sweetheart was fifteen. A lot
of people were you guys. I had to wait, I can't.
I'm going to embarrass myself. Cancer. I was sixteen. Cancel
what I was gonna say? Canceling? I just got my
period so late? Well same, I was sixteen. Oh wow,
really I was.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, I was sick when you were so surprised with
our kids. Oh okay.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I was like, that's normal.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
And that's why I asked when did she because I
was so I was such a late bloomer.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I was late.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I had been eating like problems and was really thin.
But I mean said, yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, I mean she's she has been very thin, like
as a small person, but like not now. I mean
she's really like kind of filled out.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So I thought it was normal to be that back
in our age. As later, I thought it was like
fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I was the second to last person in all the
people I knew, and I was middle school, seventh grade.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, sixth I'm waiting. It's I always wondered if the
surgery I had in my back had anything to do
with the delay of the thirteen when they put the
rods in No, when you had your sixteen Oh yeah, okay, same,
I was for you.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Twelve did you get? But I was like the second
to last one too, I think it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I was like nineteen.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
The problem is is that I've never really had.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Never got Boos's why I got. I never got boobs.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I bought boobs. Yeah, but you can tell kind of
when an idea of when it's going to happen, you know,
based on Joel.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That's a funny boob conversation. Because we were in Target
getting some things and she was like, Mommy, can I
get this? And they were little sports bras with they
were with the padded ones, and I was like, no, honey,
you can't get those, but we can get these the
other ones that were just like the regular training bras.
But I was like eight, I know, And I also
do love them wearing something because we cartwheel and and
(13:22):
I'm like, yeah, our sports something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I'm always like Amy, don't you want to get a pad?
She say no, people will know. I'm like, oh, you're
nothing like me.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I remember what I did, to be honest with you all.
I never stuffed.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I know that I didn't like in front of people.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Get home to There was a girl sort of a
visualation visualization, but I won't say which friend. I know, well, no, no, no,
because they're so sweet. One of my Michigan girlfriends, we
were to sleepover and we found tissues in one of
our friends pros bless, I know. But then her brothers
put them in the freezer.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So we did that? Did we do that?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I wish I could say his full name, but I won't,
just in case he turned out to be a really
good human in Jesus name. But Dan used to say,
to his last name, that's true, there's only one trillion Dan's.
Dan used to say, I was a carpenter's dream. Flat
as a board, Oh yeah, that was Bobby was the
he took. He took the binder and he goes flat
(14:25):
as a board. Yeah, and you're now baby, I'm kidding.
I remember reunion and one of the guys had grown
like a like literally a foot since high school and
he was always a tall guy. And he goes, he's like,
my last name was white, you know, and so he's like, whitey,
did you see that? Like he's like, look at and
I was like, yeah, I can see, and I go
(14:45):
and you can probably see from up there that I
also bloomed late. And I was like, I was so
proud because I just always wanted can we talk about
high school re unions really fast? Because well, we have
our guest is here, so let's I want to pinant
and talk about it after Tracy. We've got Tracy to
coming on. She is in Million Dollar Listening in Los Angeles.
Season fifteen is premiering already on on Bravo. New episodes
(15:08):
are on Wednesday. Let's get her on to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Hi, guys, Hi, Hey, So.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I love Million Dollar Listening because I feel like it's
so I do watch would you call it the competitor
show or would you call it just a brothers.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
On which show you're talking about?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
The other selling of shows?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Selling Sunset?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Well, yeah, I didn't want a straight upset, but yeah, Sellie, yeah,
Tracy well Trace, Tracy, well no, because I like I
watched Selling Sunset too, But I feel like I watched
the two shows for different reasons, Like I feel like
there's more drama on Selling Sunset. I feel like there's
more how and you know listings on your show. Did
you get asked to go on the other one or
(16:06):
is a million dollar Like yeah, kind of like what's
your thoughts on both?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Our show has been on obviously a lot longer than
Selling Sunset, so I was already attached to million dollar
listing when Selling Sunset started airing. It's a different show.
I wouldn't necessarily say it's a competitive show with us. Again,
for the same reasons you said. I think that show
is more Our show is more living in reality, and
(16:32):
I think that show is more soapy with a real
estate backdrop. Totally entertaining, but just different.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, your show motivates me in a different way, Like
it's very boss style, Like I'm like, oh okay, Like
I'm digging in and I know I'm learning and I
really enjoy that. And I also love that.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, Selling Senset motivates me to make sure stay on
the treadmill.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Sometimes I watch.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It on mute, going to lie you look great.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, I want to learn about houses when I'm watching
though you know. I mean, I want to actually learn
about real estate when I'm watching it, and that's what
I love about.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, her husband's a realtor here in Nashville. He's helped
me buy sell all of.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
My Yeah, but then I watched these shows and I'm like, oh,
this is a completely different level.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
But I love it though, So yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Was this something you always dreamed you would do or
kind of always knew you would know?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I was an actor, Like I went to theater school
at USC I wanted to do Broadway and you know,
a post college, I was auditioning a lot and kind
of woke up one day and said, oh my god,
am I going to just wake up an audition every
single day for the rest of my life and maybe
be that one percent that hits. I wanted financial independence,
(17:51):
and so why the heck I picked real estate. But
it's worked out. It's worked out for me. And really, truly,
I think the education that I got from studying theater
for so long and figuring out how to present myself
and walk into a room and really audition is not
very different from what I have to do when I
(18:13):
walk into a listing appointment and have to connect with
a seller or take a buyer through a house. So
I never connected the two early on, but realized obviously
later that it was probably one of the best educations
I could have had walking into, you know, selling real
estate for a living.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Do you feel like being a woman in real estate
is still different than being a man in real estate?
Like do you feel like you have the same power
when you walk into a room with a man?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
That's there depends on the man walking in the room,
I guess, but you know, obviously, and I think any
woman can speak to this in business, particularly a mother.
You know, I'm a mother of two teenage girls, and
I think there still is that stigma that, you know, oh,
she has to get home to the kids, or she
can't work as late as he can or as hard
(19:04):
as my male counterpart, because she has all these other responsibilities.
And of course that is entirely untrue, but I think
that stigma still exists. I think, you know, you know,
as women in business, as we become more and more successful,
we're working harder to break away from that that how
(19:26):
people feel about women in business, particularly successful women in business.
But it's still there, you know, I still walk into
a room and I have to fight harder than my
male counterpart for the listing. No matter if I've done
more business than them and had more you know, sales
than them and have a better track record, I still
have to be more present than the man I might
(19:50):
be competing against.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
See that, I'm just like still like why, Like I
just don't understand, like if you're better for the job, Like,
why does it matter if you're male or female.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, it's interesting, and I could be wrong side of
other stats, but I feel like here when I see
like our local real estate, that's not necessarily the case.
I mean, we have a lot of females, and my
husband gets beat out by females all the time. I
could be wrong, and maybe that's just maybe we just
happen to have more females in the industry. I don't know,
(20:19):
but I've paid attention to that a lot because it's
it's interesting and you are are you still the only
female on the show?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I am.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Heather Alwin is the CEO of Josh Altman's team Right Life,
so she's on the show with us. But as you know,
as a cast member, obviously I was the first female
on the show, right And so that's challenging. But to
speak to what you were talking about in Nashville, that's nationwide,
there are more female real estate agents than there are
(20:49):
male agents. I think in the corporate world there are
more men runningsurance and obviously some of the most successful
men and women in this country. You know, there's certainly
women in the top ten, they're just for more men.
And I think what it boils down to is, you know,
(21:10):
in the fifties, sixties, seventies, like early on homemakers and
women who were staying at home with their kids, it
sort of became like a jobby, like a woman knows
how to make a house a home, so it was
like this natural affinity to of course a woman should
sell the home because a woman understands how to make
(21:31):
a house feel homey and personal. And then, of course,
you know, as with any industry, you know, it's obviously
a very popular industry to be in. And then of
course add all of these fabulous TV shows that glamorize
what we do for a living. Everybody wants to do
it because you know, the beauty of our business is
(21:54):
the money can be infinite. There is no cap as
to what you can make. It is only dependent on
how good you are at sell it.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
See, if it wasn't for your husband, I would have
a female, yeah, a real estate agent. And because I
mean my team is ninety nine percent women, like I
love like, I'm just like especially moms. I'm like, we
work really hard. We have to work really hard. We
have to provide for our kids. And I also like
kind of your points, like the woman knows a house
(22:22):
and how I'm like, if I can't see the vision,
a woman's going to help me see the vision, right,
you know what I mean? It where it was like,
But I mean, obviously I'm loyal to next I'll always
right keep it right, yeah, because I think that would
kill our friendship.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
But we got I mean there's a certain level of
we walk in. A woman walks into a house, and
she knows where the heart of the home is. She
knows some of the tweaks that we you know, that
might need to be made to make it feel a
little bit more special or right for the buyer. And
that's just something I think that comes innately more to
(22:56):
women than perhaps to men. But you know, it's a
competitive field that we're in, and so you know, we
have a lot of very successful men in the industry,
and I'm lucky enough to be in that top percentage
of women in our industry as well.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
What do you think your best selling point is as
a as an agent?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Confidence? I mean, I think you know, when you walk
into a room and you know you're competing against maybe
five or six different agents that have come in before you,
you have those jitters. By the way, it's like walking
into an audition. You know you're competing against whoever went
in before you, or who they made an offer to,
and they're looking at you as potentially a backup. All
(23:39):
that anxiety. You have to know how to transition that
anxiety into something super positive and that takes confidence. And
I figured that out at a very early age. So
I can walk into a room and primarily because I
think my dad was so damn intimidating. I grew up
around men that were like that, and I can be
(24:01):
you know that woman that would walk in and be like,
don't talk to her that way, dad, And so I
have the ability to walk into a room with a
very powerful man and not feel intimidated by him.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I love that, and that's really special. Do your kids,
how did the kids do with you? Being on TV.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, you know, we're going into cause season fifteen now,
and I've been on the show since season ten, and
you know, my kids were a little bit younger obviously
when I first started the show, and now Juliet's eighteen
and Scarlet sixteen, so in the last few years they've
participated in the show a little bit. I think they're proud.
(24:41):
I think they you know, as a single mom, they
know how hard I work to you know, make sure
that they can have all of the things that they
have the luxury of, you know, having and money doesn't
fall off trees. So when they see me wake up
earlier than everybody else and you know, take calls later
than you know most people would take calls, it's because
(25:06):
I want to be I want to teach them how
to be financially independent. So whenever I have that mom
guilt and it creeps in all the time, you know,
my daughters will remind me, listen, I know you can't
be like at Magic Mountain doing you know, being supervising
(25:27):
us when you know some of the other moms can
do it. And I'm like, I wish I could be,
but like I have to. This is a part of
you know my job and this is what the trajectory
looks like. And I have a plan, and they always
tell me like, we're so proud of you, like we
have so much respect for you. And it does give me,
(25:47):
you know, it puts me at ease, I think. And
I'm also I believe teaching them how to be financially
independent as well at a very early age.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I think it's a real gift, honestly, to have to
be front row to watch someone like you be able
to handle life like that. I think it's incredible. Do
either of them seem to have interest in the industry
at all? Or are they kind of they? Are you
going to have your own little empire over there?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I mean, who knows. But my eighteen year old Juliet
is interned for US last summer or two summers ago,
and then last summer she interned for an interior designer.
And this summer I put her to work, like in
a real job, and so she is working as a
hostess at a restaurant in Beverly Hills. Because I feel
(26:31):
like that is such a great way to learn how
to deal with different personalities.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I did it.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I feel like every teenager slash eighteen and above should
have to wait tables at some point in their life.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
And what it means to walk up to someone and
have them treat you like and have to figure out
how to respond to it professionally. It's an education that
I don't think you can get, you know, at school.
So she's doing that this summer, and believe it or not,
she's having a good time, but she's coming home from work,
Like she came home after like her first week and
she was like, is this what it's like out there?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And I was like, yeah, it's hard in the street.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
How are you doing with all the headlines around you
and Eric and just talking about you know, obviously a
tough situation like heartbreak and going through breakup is not
a lovely topic. But also, like you said, you're a
strong woman. It's you know, you're obviously going through at
the moment, and so how are you kind of dealing
with all those pieces, you know while the show's airing.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
It's interesting because my first season on the show, I
was married, and when I was brand new to the show,
obviously the first female on the show, and really nervous
about how I presented, you know, knowing how that could
appear on television. I sort of went through that very privately,
(28:04):
and it was really really difficult to navigate that. And
you know, then, of course, when at the end of
that season, when you know, the big black screen comes
up and it says James and David are doing wonderful
and they're having their first baby, and Josh and Heather
like off to Aspen for the summer, and then it's
like Tracy and Jason have filed for divorce, and it
(28:28):
was it was really really difficult, and I felt obviously
I wasn't as vulnerable in the first season out of
you know, being nervous for my family, nervous for my children.
And this time around, I made a choice that I
was like, I am going to speak my truth. I
(28:48):
am going to allow myself to be vulnerable in front
of millions of people about you know, what I'm going
through and what I'm living with an already you know,
very very republic relationship because of our age difference.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, it was twenty one years nineteen nineteen, Okay, nineteen,
let's not get worse. I know there, but there's a
lot of women that have that are dating younger men now. Too,
you know, so I feel like.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It's definitely become more popular in recent years, and I
decided to live it, and I you know, I told
my showrunner, who I trusted implicitly, who was a woman,
and I said, this is what I'm going through, and
you know, I need you guys to just take the
ride with me and be as sensitive as you possibly
(29:36):
can to how I'm going to live through this on TV.
And they were, and I was grateful to Bravo and
grateful to my production company for how they handled it.
Doesn't make the breakup any easier, but you know, it's
now been some time and Eric and I have remained friends.
He still trains me because I don't know what do
I do without him, and you know, we've been able
(29:59):
to kind of work through it and maintain a friendship,
which has been really great because he's he's a great guy,
and he came into my life for a reason, and
for three and a half years, I think, you know,
brought a lot to my life in terms of keeping
me focused. He's not your typical like late twenties party boy.
(30:19):
He was like, had me up at five point thirty
in the morning to work out and make sure I
was eating healthy and getting to bed early so that
I could be ready for work. And I've never had
anybody in my life like that before. So we've worked
through it and we're maintaining a friendship. And you know,
(30:40):
who knows what happens when either one of us gets
into maybe a more serious relationship with.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Some He's probably not going to train the new guy now,
and I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
She's not going to be you know, a new girlfriend
of his might not be thrilled that he still trains
in my guest house.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh that's yeah, yeah, day by day? Will you the
next season? Will you like, will you show dating and that? Like,
will you be open on that side too?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I mean tune in to see.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
We can see. We love a little cliffhanger.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Tell you what it's. It's a ride dating in La,
you know, like I let John, I let my friends know. Like, look,
you guys know me better than anyone. If you think
there might be someone that I might hit it off
with or there could be good for me, I'm open
to going out with them. So that happened.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That happens, Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Biggest red flags that you see from other realtors.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Bravado that isn't aligned with any kind of background or
understanding of what it takes to be successful in this business.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I love Tracy get to Nashville. Let's sing out. Do
you ever follow any other realtors and kind of see
what they're doing, because I feel like a lot of
influence on social media can be beneficial to also selling
or do you see the other way?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Absolutely, I think a lot of a lot of agents
have done really well on social media, and I think,
you know, it's like providing like education because there's so
much media out there about what's happening in the market
and what's positive and what's negative, and really like we
are in our markets, like I know what is happening
(32:37):
in Beverly Hills, bel Air, Malibu, the Palisades, the Valley
because I'm living it every day. You know, the national
news is going to tell a story that speaks to
what's happening nashally, not specifically in Nashville, in your community
and what those sales might be. So I think it's
really important as an agent in your community that you're
(32:59):
speaking to your clients and your followers about what really
is going on. And there's also some you know, at
the end of the day. Social media is supposed to
be fun as well, and I there's some really hysterical
agents that I follow that you know, have a lot
of fun with it, you know, but also are great agents.
But you know, we can't take these markets too seriously
(33:21):
because the nature of the beast is it's a rollercoaster
and you know, only the strong will survive.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Sure do you think it's is it a buyer's or
a seller's market? Right now?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's a flat market?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Say either?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Is there and I joke?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
But the truth is, you know, we have a little
bit of a lack of inventory because you know, people
who bought and were lucky enough to buy in twenty
twenty or twenty twenty one when interest rates were between
two and two and a half percent can't afford to
sell right now because why would you go buy the
same price house at seven and a half percent when
(33:57):
you've got an interest rate at two The cost you
way too much money. So those sellers don't want to
put their houses on the market, and then those buyers,
I mean, I don't know if you guys remember if
any of you guys were in the market when interest
rates were at two and a half, and I was saying,
buy now and lock in a long term interest rate
(34:17):
that's going to serve you down the road. And they
were like, the prices are just crazy and the prices
are too high. Well, here we are two years later.
Prices are still high because there is still a lack
of inventory, except now the interest rate has tripled.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Correct. I'm one of the ones that settled in at
like a two point one, I think, and like, we
will just never leave.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Girl, We're just so cozy.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I'm like, you're good, yeah, but I do know. Hey,
any have they ever talked about rebranding the show, because
Miller not a million dollar listing doesn't quite apply to
our twenty twenty four prices anymore, especially where you are.
So I'm just wondering, are we going to multimillion? We're
just going to keep the branding.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Be married to the brain.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
How many words does it take? Well, yeah, several million dollars.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Listen, money, you tell us, Tracy, you're the one who's
a million dollars. Now, it doesn't really come.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
And by the way, like you know, and now I've
said this to my team, and you'll you'll see a
little bit of this on the show. You know, gone
is the day when selling a ten million dollar house
in six in you know two days is over. So
instead of instead of like begging and searching and trying
to find that big big listing and like transition guys
(35:32):
sell five two and a half million dollar listings because
those are still turning and make Yes, you're going to
have to work ten times harder to make the same
money or you can just sit and do nothing. And
you know, my position, as obviously a team leader of
you know we now have a team of close to twenty,
is to make sure that they understand how to pivot
(35:54):
in a market like this. I've lived through some downturns.
I was in the two thousand and eight crisis, so
I know that if they're not if you're not pivoting
as an agent right now, at the end of this year,
you're going to be like waiting tables or figuring out
how to make ends meet.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
But like you said, we should all wait tables. And
I served my time at the had all of them
at Greek Island, and uh, all of like literally every
single one, I think to learn to dances at Joe's Crabshack.
You would, I would, I would never apply because they
would take coordination.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I worked at j Lo's Salsa Bar, and yes you did.
I had the salsa outfit and I had to carry
Martini's and I was like on the dance floor. So
they were like, we're going to put you at the
postest stands.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Somewhere a little more stable. My girl, my girl. Oh
that's it. Well, Tracy, thank you so much for coming
on the show. Everyone watching a million Dollar listening Los
Angeles Heason fifteen, airing now on Bravo. We love you.
You are so sweet. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Thanks, thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
All right, bye bye. Oh she's precious. I love women
like Tracy because it just makes me really motivated. That's
why I enjoy that part of the show.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, I love that show.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Not that this matters, it's just she looks I know.
I want to know too. I want to know how
old she was. I don't know why, but I just
want to know she's forty eight. She looks amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, she looks amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Something in the water out there. They doesn't never it's
all too good. The pin. Do you guys go to
your high school graduations? I mean, shoot, reunions. I have
not I've gone to one, You've gone to one? Which one?
Like the ten? Gosh, fifteen, twenty? Are we in twenty?
What are we? Yeah? At twenty? Yeah, I guess it
(37:50):
would have been.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I didn't do any of them. I'm twenty nicks. But
that's it.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
So, like, you know, like when you're in high school.
I used to get really excited thought of having, yeah,
a reunion. I thought it'd be like so fun, you know,
and so we have this reunion page on Facebook or
like the our high school year. There was like ten
people that went to the last one, and like that
broke my heart because I'm like, I just imagine, like
you want to. No, I didn't go. I don't care
(38:18):
if I okays a point, all right, well I don't go.
But I'm just saying, like, I think I think it
would actually be fun to go and see people that
I haven't seen in years.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I'm I do too.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I don't know how I feel that. I feel fine,
I'm good. Not just catching up on Facebook feels good.
Say yeah. What I had learned is that the girl
with two first names was equally as shady ten years
later as she was in high school. And I had
hoped for better. So I just feel like I'm find her. Yeah,
I mean I actually really enjoyed high school. I was
(38:51):
this will be shocking, the one that cried all the
way down the aisle because I didn't want it to
be over. It was like my career. I just loved
it there. It was special and I may Evil and
my coaches and I just loved it.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Oh that was definitely not me.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Definitely not made. I barely made my graduation.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I hated graduations tracked.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Well, my mom, this is this will very track. But
I didn't I tell you guys the story of my graduation.
I was like the ceremony and everything. I was used
to be the figure skater for the Red Wings games,
and it was when they were going to go for
the I think it was the two peet in two
thousand and two, and I was the skater before the rounds,
so like I'd come out like the round girl, and
I got to like they didn't give me a ticket,
but I got to stand right by the zamboni every show,
(39:31):
and it was amazing. The zamboni needs its own moment,
it does, and so I stood there watched all the games,
and then I found out graduation was going to be
the same night as the like Round two or something,
and I was like, Mom, I was like, oh my gosh,
I can't miss it. She's like, I know, you can't
miss the game. So I was like, what do we do?
So she had her like cop friend, get me to
go talk to go skate the the round, go to graduation,
(39:55):
walk the stage, peace out, go back to the game.
It's just a still on brand for who you are today.
It's just literally, yeah, it's just a little flashback.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Call her name. She walked right out on the police escort.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I mean there's some really, there's a lot, but you
are there's a lot. There's You're the person that will
always make a way. I had to. It was the
freaking finals. Meanwhile, and everyone the round girl giving them
a disc a CD of I hope you dan't tearful
tucking in my high school career. High school career, what
(40:33):
a time wait to leave. But there are people, but
there are people that I would love to see again. Yeah,
and just I talked to some of them on Facebook.
I don't go on Facebook a lot, but there are
some like like Aaron Wadell. She was always like the
sweetest human and like you know, I'd like to be like,
how are you, how's your family? Like, you know, actually
in person, have like good conversations. Yeah, I would do
(40:55):
an in person I do. I actually really super loved
our people. We just had really great people. I think
we did too, But I kind of keep up with
them now, which is fun. That's the fun part about
like Facebook and Instagram just special s. Yeah, I feel
like it's been so much too much time past for
me to like slide into some people's you know, and
then I don't know. I was always just crying anyways
(41:16):
over my high school boyfriend, which also started back backlash forward. Yeah,
I was talking everyone. You were crying O ride school boyfriend,
just all the same. I know. Kat was like, and
this business plan is done and we're moving forward to
the Manchester.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
That really talked to many people.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
And that's a close on this calendar year. That was
that's fantastic. Kat's like, this is the natural next step
in college. Yeah, that's what I was doing. That's Hilaire's
throwing out her planner, maybe keeping it just in case,
just in just in case. All right, ladies, that was fun,
See you next week.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Bye bye,
Wind down with Janet Kramer did I'mheart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, so it's almost this school year. Yet again, I
feel like summer has flown by. This is a big
mile year. It is. You. I thought, for some reason,
since our boys were the same age, they would be
going to kindergarten. I started him early. You did, which
is interesting because don't they usually hold boys back. Yeah,
(00:27):
we did a junior so we do a homeschool co
op though, two days a week, so I am his teacher.
For the most part. He was really not challenged in
his junior kindergarten program. But also I think because he
has an older sister, you know, those older kids just
kind of push you along. So I did put him
(00:47):
in kinder thought we might have to repeat kinder but
he's going to go to first.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He's going to do first. Yeah, I was wondering of.
And you're still going to do the co op right?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah? We did. Last year they offered a first second
split though grade, so I'm kind of hoping that they
would do that again. You may kind of do like
a first and then a first again because there's you guys,
it's not the same curriculum when we were little like
they're having to do everything so much earlier now that
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Is yours the same curriculum is ours? In probably not.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, but a little different just everything. I think in general,
society has got them like boosted up a bit. Like
I wasn't reading in kindergarten and now a lot of
them are reading coming out of kindergarten.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think that that's different for all
kids for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So, and then Love will be third grade. She'll still
be third I know. Sometimes in the co ops they
get a little like ahead or not ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, we stay, we stay, like we just keep we
keep on rocking. So she'll go to third grade. And again,
like it's up to my preference, you know, like I
can tailor it, which is great, but it's also tricky
because Legend is not a reader. He's a strong math guy.
And I feel like kids tend to be one or
the other.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
How long do you think you'll homeschool it for? I
don't know. I think for a while. I see it
in our little world, to our little section of the world,
with homeschooling, I see a lot of parents move to
like right around eighth or ninth they start to move
into public just because I think, like sports and things,
they just seem to want more.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I cannot imagine throwing them into public school in high school.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I can't either, Honestly. That's why I'm like, I don't know,
because that feels.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I'm not judging it. I'm just saying I can't imagine.
Just like, but actually we had a friend that did that.
I take that back, but it's just seems like that's
a lot like whoa all at once?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yet also we would take out for middle and then
put in you know what I mean, Like we've kind
of talked about that one fist. Yeah, I so it's
almost like I would homeschool middle school for sure. Then
it's going right back into the gauntlet in there.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I do think though, and I'm sure this is obviously
not true for a lot a lot of kids, but
I do think middle school seems to be a little
bit harder, oh than high school. But is that going
to be make high school kind of that new transition,
you know what I mean? Like, cause it's me, I
don't know, because transition.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
My educational capability keeping them home and I don't even yeah,
I don't even know. I mean, I don't have the
I don't. I don't know where you find the time,
you know what I mean? Like, obviously you find the time,
because that's like I find the time to work out
every morning, like you know, so we find times. I
don't know if I have the patience, so maybe it's
not the time. I don't think I have the patience
to homeschool, yes, which is why I've been like, all right,
(03:25):
you know, Alan, you know, Mike, can you guys teach
Julie how to tire shoes or bite? Because I just
I'm I'm fast to not being patient. Yeah, And also
like the kids are different, like Love loves to learn
from me, loves it. Yeah, Legend likes to learn math
from me, but he doesn't want to talk about reading. Well,
I wouldn't even know how to teach any of that,
(03:46):
to be honest. Like sometimes I read some of Joey's
homework and I'm like, wait, okay, wait, what I'm re
educating my second grade? Like it's weird how much we
forget or how much you start to second guess yourself.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, and they learn differently everybody. Well, but I'm just
saying now they learn like math, they don't learn the
way we learn how math.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's new math.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, it's crazy, And so I'm like, well, I know
the answer, but if you have to actually like put
out how you got it, I can't help you.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, it's weird. And also like there's times where I've
wondered if Legend is actually more of a public school fit,
because he five years a week feels like it could
be more comfortable to him. Oh for sure. But I
also with our lifestyle, love that I can take them
out and we can go here. I founded a loophole
you can in public school. So here's the loophole because
(04:34):
I found this out when Jolie was doing the movie,
because I was always like, well, I don't want to
pay for private school because it's expensive, even though you
can take out you know, whenever you want. But with
public you can disnroll and re enroll, and it's not
that complicated at all. It's like a one cheeter. I
have as many times as you want. Wait, so like
(04:54):
for a month, yeah, as many times as you want.
So like, for example, Jolie missed fourteen days of school,
obviously you're not so simis anymore. I think I was
like eight or whatever. And then you get in trouble.
But most people it's like between that, like twelve and fifteen.
Then that's when they're like, all right, they you have
a call with the people, the principle or whatever. And
when I had called just kind of explaining what she
(05:16):
was doing, she's like, well, if it was any more,
She's like, we'd probably just have you distan' roll and
then Rene roll. And I was like, oh, wait, tell
me more. So then I was like, how many times
can I do that? She's like, as many times as
you want. She's like people, She's like, we have a
lot of athlete kids that are in our school district
that do it a couple times a year. So like
the state doesn't get involved. Then I mean, if the
state only gets involved and the kids are not in
(05:37):
a school system, no, in a safe home, like you
can just distan' roll and ren roll. I legally have
to be registered somewhere for school, Like I have an
umbrella school, I have to read it all. So what you
would do is you would just they would have to
be a homeschooling So like she just had her like
paperwork from like school. This is to say that she's
still on this grade and doing the homeschooling, so like
(06:01):
she just gave the teacher like a packet of stuff.
They didn't really even check it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, so so that's showing that she's doing school. So
you would have to prove something that's that's like.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
My umbrella, yes, because you can't just like one off
feeling no, I can't anything. Yeah, but like you would
never not teach your kids, right, so right, but you
could still so that you could still do public and
then just in our district at least, that's what she
taught me. I was like, because it's one of the
things that I've always kind of gone okay, but we
you know, like last year, Preston had a ton of stuff,
(06:34):
like based in Florida for like January, so we just
like had a house in the neighborhood at the other
half of the duo and we just hunkered for like
a few weeks because it just kept us all a
family together. Well, I know plenty of well I know
specifically a mom whose daughter has missed like more than
twenty and like she just has a good relationship with
(06:57):
the principal and the I've heard that too, So it's
you know, as long as you're communicating with them. It's
not like you're taking them out for or they're not
safe in the home. This is and I also just
understand like the testing and all those things, like they
really do need the kids in there for attendances blah
blah blah. But also, yeah, no, they're young. It's the time, right,
It's okay too. Yeah. Well, also I think at least
(07:20):
it seems resonating, Like with our school districts around us,
everyone's more focused on like just family. We have a
really we live in a really great area for that. Yeah,
where it's like we want families to be together and
experience and right, that's incredible. So that's interesting, good to know. Yeah,
so you can keep that little tidbit in your pocket. Yeah,
(07:40):
or when you are ready for love or legend as
there's been days where I'm like public school five days
a week, I could own the.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
World, Like you don't feel like it's just a.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Weird, Like I think, like what would it be like
if they left in the morning.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, think about summer, like when you're pulled like you're
like that all the time though.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Like summer is the same as like for summer, So
everything traumatizing for me, My girlfriend and I just had
this conversation. She was like, oh, the parents go in
haywire right now, and you guys are like please yeah,
well every day I will say this though, even in
our world, like there's more structure on school in school
months and so like even lately, I've been like, Okay,
(08:19):
we need to bring some sort of like rhythm to
the house because Leggie does really well with structure. Even
though he didn't, I think everybody does. Yeah. Well, maybe
that's just a types unite hands in on three. I mean, okay,
so then our girl, I know the ages of our kids.
We all rolled together. But then you go, does anybody
(08:39):
transition to big school like.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
We did all that last year? Okay, that's right, we tried.
We started middle school and in high school last year.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So you'll bake it.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, well you're making it. Yeah, I know you'll make it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Don't scare us.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I'm just kidding, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Puberty is happening.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, I mean it's a lot. It's just yesterday.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What's puberty? I know, I said, it's a really precious
and confusing stage between childhood and adulthood. I didn't know
how to.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I mean, that's honestly I haven't, Like, I don't know,
puberty hasn't been that bad. Really, it's just your kids
are so sweet. Yeah, I mean they're great. They're just
it's a lot of the people are around them that
stressed me out.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
But that's what I'm nervous about period. It is so great.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Learned so much the other day I took I shouldn't
say this on air, but I took I took Kit
into camp the other day and uh, we were waiting
in line for like an hour to check out coed.
Well it's a church camp that is co ed, but
there's literally church camp stand same same human young yes,
(09:47):
all same. This one though, is like I'm like, oh,
come on, Like people get kicked out left and right
for stepping over the line. I'm like, okay, guys, it's
sneaking kisses at church anyway. So I so I know
he's like anyway. So we start. We just start talking
and I just start asking very I'm very good with
Emmy and asking very specific questions, and like with him,
(10:09):
I'm like, all right, we're in high school, Like I
haven't asked that. And I just started asking very specific
questions and he started answering all my questions what like
about his friends and who's doing what and who. I mean,
I could have guessed, but I didn't know for sure,
and he just like started talking and I was like,
I can't react, Like I cannot.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
React your intuition. Absolutely, I'm not ready out sweating absolutely,
like about sex.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
That's yeah, I mean leading up to it, and then
what they're getting into, like drug wise and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
What are the drugs of choice now at that age?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Weed? Right now, weed and vaping is starting.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Doctor Aman would say, and that's the worst drug you
can take, yeah, because it's a slow brain killer. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, yeah, they're doing like those cartridges again. You know.
He is so so straight laced in the sense that
like he even he's like the one friend that I
know for sure. When I found out, he was like,
just don't get it in front of me, and he's
like I never would, And I was like, well anyone
else and he was like probably, but they keep it
from me, Like he's that passionate about it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, and he's like still the cool kid and he's.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Still friends with so many kids. So but anyway, I
was just like, don't react, don't react, they'll never tell.
That's the thing that's hard. I didn't ask that specifically.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I would like you to report back.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I wanted to about a certain person, but I did not.
But he told me a story about him that was
leading up to it, and like he's a bad situation.
Caden's fifteen.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah, my high school sweetheart was fifteen. A lot
of people were you guys. I had to wait, I can't.
I'm going to embarrass myself. Cancer. I was sixteen. Cancel
what I was gonna say? Canceling? I just got my
period so late? Well same, I was sixteen. Oh wow,
really I was.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, I was sick when you were so surprised with
our kids. Oh okay.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I was like, that's normal.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
And that's why I asked when did she because I
was so I was such a late bloomer.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I was late.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I had been eating like problems and was really thin.
But I mean said, yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, I mean she's she has been very thin, like
as a small person, but like not now. I mean
she's really like kind of filled out.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So I thought it was normal to be that back
in our age. As later, I thought it was like
fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I was the second to last person in all the
people I knew, and I was middle school, seventh grade.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, sixth I'm waiting. It's I always wondered if the
surgery I had in my back had anything to do
with the delay of the thirteen when they put the
rods in No, when you had your sixteen Oh yeah, okay, same,
I was for you.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Twelve did you get? But I was like the second
to last one too, I think it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I was like nineteen.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
The problem is is that I've never really had.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Never got Boos's why I got. I never got boobs.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I bought boobs. Yeah, but you can tell kind of
when an idea of when it's going to happen, you know,
based on Joel.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That's a funny boob conversation. Because we were in Target
getting some things and she was like, Mommy, can I
get this? And they were little sports bras with they
were with the padded ones, and I was like, no, honey,
you can't get those, but we can get these the
other ones that were just like the regular training bras.
But I was like eight, I know, And I also
do love them wearing something because we cartwheel and and
(13:22):
I'm like, yeah, our sports something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I'm always like Amy, don't you want to get a pad?
She say no, people will know. I'm like, oh, you're
nothing like me.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I remember what I did, to be honest with you all.
I never stuffed.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I know that I didn't like in front of people.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Get home to There was a girl sort of a
visualation visualization, but I won't say which friend. I know, well, no, no, no,
because they're so sweet. One of my Michigan girlfriends, we
were to sleepover and we found tissues in one of
our friends pros bless, I know. But then her brothers
put them in the freezer.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So we did that? Did we do that?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I wish I could say his full name, but I won't,
just in case he turned out to be a really
good human in Jesus name. But Dan used to say,
to his last name, that's true, there's only one trillion Dan's.
Dan used to say, I was a carpenter's dream. Flat
as a board, Oh yeah, that was Bobby was the
he took. He took the binder and he goes flat
(14:25):
as a board. Yeah, and you're now baby, I'm kidding.
I remember reunion and one of the guys had grown
like a like literally a foot since high school and
he was always a tall guy. And he goes, he's like,
my last name was white, you know, and so he's like, whitey,
did you see that? Like he's like, look at and
I was like, yeah, I can see, and I go
(14:45):
and you can probably see from up there that I
also bloomed late. And I was like, I was so
proud because I just always wanted can we talk about
high school re unions really fast? Because well, we have
our guest is here, so let's I want to pinant
and talk about it after Tracy. We've got Tracy to
coming on. She is in Million Dollar Listening in Los Angeles.
Season fifteen is premiering already on on Bravo. New episodes
(15:08):
are on Wednesday. Let's get her on to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Hi, guys, Hi, Hey, So.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I love Million Dollar Listening because I feel like it's
so I do watch would you call it the competitor
show or would you call it just a brothers.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
On which show you're talking about?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
The other selling of shows?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Selling Sunset?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Well, yeah, I didn't want a straight upset, but yeah, Sellie, yeah,
Tracy well Trace, Tracy, well no, because I like I
watched Selling Sunset too, But I feel like I watched
the two shows for different reasons, Like I feel like
there's more drama on Selling Sunset. I feel like there's
more how and you know listings on your show. Did
you get asked to go on the other one or
(16:06):
is a million dollar Like yeah, kind of like what's
your thoughts on both?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Our show has been on obviously a lot longer than
Selling Sunset, so I was already attached to million dollar
listing when Selling Sunset started airing. It's a different show.
I wouldn't necessarily say it's a competitive show with us. Again,
for the same reasons you said. I think that show
is more Our show is more living in reality, and
(16:32):
I think that show is more soapy with a real
estate backdrop. Totally entertaining, but just different.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, your show motivates me in a different way, Like
it's very boss style, Like I'm like, oh okay, Like
I'm digging in and I know I'm learning and I
really enjoy that. And I also love that.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, Selling Senset motivates me to make sure stay on
the treadmill.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Sometimes I watch.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It on mute, going to lie you look great.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, I want to learn about houses when I'm watching
though you know. I mean, I want to actually learn
about real estate when I'm watching it, and that's what
I love about.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, her husband's a realtor here in Nashville. He's helped
me buy sell all of.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
My Yeah, but then I watched these shows and I'm like, oh,
this is a completely different level.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
But I love it though, So yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Was this something you always dreamed you would do or
kind of always knew you would know?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I was an actor, Like I went to theater school
at USC I wanted to do Broadway and you know,
a post college, I was auditioning a lot and kind
of woke up one day and said, oh my god,
am I going to just wake up an audition every
single day for the rest of my life and maybe
be that one percent that hits. I wanted financial independence,
(17:51):
and so why the heck I picked real estate. But
it's worked out. It's worked out for me. And really, truly,
I think the education that I got from studying theater
for so long and figuring out how to present myself
and walk into a room and really audition is not
very different from what I have to do when I
(18:13):
walk into a listing appointment and have to connect with
a seller or take a buyer through a house. So
I never connected the two early on, but realized obviously
later that it was probably one of the best educations
I could have had walking into, you know, selling real
estate for a living.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Do you feel like being a woman in real estate
is still different than being a man in real estate?
Like do you feel like you have the same power
when you walk into a room with a man?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
That's there depends on the man walking in the room,
I guess, but you know, obviously, and I think any
woman can speak to this in business, particularly a mother.
You know, I'm a mother of two teenage girls, and
I think there still is that stigma that, you know, oh,
she has to get home to the kids, or she
can't work as late as he can or as hard
(19:04):
as my male counterpart, because she has all these other responsibilities.
And of course that is entirely untrue, but I think
that stigma still exists. I think, you know, you know,
as women in business, as we become more and more successful,
we're working harder to break away from that that how
(19:26):
people feel about women in business, particularly successful women in business.
But it's still there, you know, I still walk into
a room and I have to fight harder than my
male counterpart for the listing. No matter if I've done
more business than them and had more you know, sales
than them and have a better track record, I still
have to be more present than the man I might
(19:50):
be competing against.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
See that, I'm just like still like why, Like I
just don't understand, like if you're better for the job, Like,
why does it matter if you're male or female.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, it's interesting, and I could be wrong side of
other stats, but I feel like here when I see
like our local real estate, that's not necessarily the case.
I mean, we have a lot of females, and my
husband gets beat out by females all the time. I
could be wrong, and maybe that's just maybe we just
happen to have more females in the industry. I don't know,
(20:19):
but I've paid attention to that a lot because it's
it's interesting and you are are you still the only
female on the show?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I am.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Heather Alwin is the CEO of Josh Altman's team Right Life,
so she's on the show with us. But as you know,
as a cast member, obviously I was the first female
on the show, right And so that's challenging. But to
speak to what you were talking about in Nashville, that's nationwide,
there are more female real estate agents than there are
(20:49):
male agents. I think in the corporate world there are
more men runningsurance and obviously some of the most successful
men and women in this country. You know, there's certainly
women in the top ten, they're just for more men.
And I think what it boils down to is, you know,
(21:10):
in the fifties, sixties, seventies, like early on homemakers and
women who were staying at home with their kids, it
sort of became like a jobby, like a woman knows
how to make a house a home, so it was
like this natural affinity to of course a woman should
sell the home because a woman understands how to make
(21:31):
a house feel homey and personal. And then, of course,
you know, as with any industry, you know, it's obviously
a very popular industry to be in. And then of
course add all of these fabulous TV shows that glamorize
what we do for a living. Everybody wants to do
it because you know, the beauty of our business is
(21:54):
the money can be infinite. There is no cap as
to what you can make. It is only dependent on
how good you are at sell it.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
See, if it wasn't for your husband, I would have
a female, yeah, a real estate agent. And because I
mean my team is ninety nine percent women, like I
love like, I'm just like especially moms. I'm like, we
work really hard. We have to work really hard. We
have to provide for our kids. And I also like
kind of your points, like the woman knows a house
(22:22):
and how I'm like, if I can't see the vision,
a woman's going to help me see the vision, right,
you know what I mean? It where it was like,
But I mean, obviously I'm loyal to next I'll always
right keep it right, yeah, because I think that would
kill our friendship.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
But we got I mean there's a certain level of
we walk in. A woman walks into a house, and
she knows where the heart of the home is. She
knows some of the tweaks that we you know, that
might need to be made to make it feel a
little bit more special or right for the buyer. And
that's just something I think that comes innately more to
(22:56):
women than perhaps to men. But you know, it's a
competitive field that we're in, and so you know, we
have a lot of very successful men in the industry,
and I'm lucky enough to be in that top percentage
of women in our industry as well.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
What do you think your best selling point is as
a as an agent?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Confidence? I mean, I think you know, when you walk
into a room and you know you're competing against maybe
five or six different agents that have come in before you,
you have those jitters. By the way, it's like walking
into an audition. You know you're competing against whoever went
in before you, or who they made an offer to,
and they're looking at you as potentially a backup. All
(23:39):
that anxiety. You have to know how to transition that
anxiety into something super positive and that takes confidence. And
I figured that out at a very early age. So
I can walk into a room and primarily because I
think my dad was so damn intimidating. I grew up
around men that were like that, and I can be
(24:01):
you know that woman that would walk in and be like,
don't talk to her that way, dad, And so I
have the ability to walk into a room with a
very powerful man and not feel intimidated by him.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I love that, and that's really special. Do your kids,
how did the kids do with you? Being on TV.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, you know, we're going into cause season fifteen now,
and I've been on the show since season ten, and
you know, my kids were a little bit younger obviously
when I first started the show, and now Juliet's eighteen
and Scarlet sixteen, so in the last few years they've
participated in the show a little bit. I think they're proud.
(24:41):
I think they you know, as a single mom, they
know how hard I work to you know, make sure
that they can have all of the things that they
have the luxury of, you know, having and money doesn't
fall off trees. So when they see me wake up
earlier than everybody else and you know, take calls later
than you know most people would take calls, it's because
(25:06):
I want to be I want to teach them how
to be financially independent. So whenever I have that mom
guilt and it creeps in all the time, you know,
my daughters will remind me, listen, I know you can't
be like at Magic Mountain doing you know, being supervising
(25:27):
us when you know some of the other moms can
do it. And I'm like, I wish I could be,
but like I have to. This is a part of
you know my job and this is what the trajectory
looks like. And I have a plan, and they always
tell me like, we're so proud of you, like we
have so much respect for you. And it does give me,
(25:47):
you know, it puts me at ease, I think. And
I'm also I believe teaching them how to be financially
independent as well at a very early age.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I think it's a real gift, honestly, to have to
be front row to watch someone like you be able
to handle life like that. I think it's incredible. Do
either of them seem to have interest in the industry
at all? Or are they kind of they? Are you
going to have your own little empire over there?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I mean, who knows. But my eighteen year old Juliet
is interned for US last summer or two summers ago,
and then last summer she interned for an interior designer.
And this summer I put her to work, like in
a real job, and so she is working as a
hostess at a restaurant in Beverly Hills. Because I feel
(26:31):
like that is such a great way to learn how
to deal with different personalities.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I did it.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I feel like every teenager slash eighteen and above should
have to wait tables at some point in their life.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
And what it means to walk up to someone and
have them treat you like and have to figure out
how to respond to it professionally. It's an education that
I don't think you can get, you know, at school.
So she's doing that this summer, and believe it or not,
she's having a good time, but she's coming home from work,
Like she came home after like her first week and
she was like, is this what it's like out there?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And I was like, yeah, it's hard in the street.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
How are you doing with all the headlines around you
and Eric and just talking about you know, obviously a
tough situation like heartbreak and going through breakup is not
a lovely topic. But also, like you said, you're a
strong woman. It's you know, you're obviously going through at
the moment, and so how are you kind of dealing
with all those pieces, you know while the show's airing.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
It's interesting because my first season on the show, I
was married, and when I was brand new to the show,
obviously the first female on the show, and really nervous
about how I presented, you know, knowing how that could
appear on television. I sort of went through that very privately,
(28:04):
and it was really really difficult to navigate that. And
you know, then, of course, when at the end of
that season, when you know, the big black screen comes
up and it says James and David are doing wonderful
and they're having their first baby, and Josh and Heather
like off to Aspen for the summer, and then it's
like Tracy and Jason have filed for divorce, and it
(28:28):
was it was really really difficult, and I felt obviously
I wasn't as vulnerable in the first season out of
you know, being nervous for my family, nervous for my children.
And this time around, I made a choice that I
was like, I am going to speak my truth. I
(28:48):
am going to allow myself to be vulnerable in front
of millions of people about you know, what I'm going
through and what I'm living with an already you know,
very very republic relationship because of our age difference.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, it was twenty one years nineteen nineteen, Okay, nineteen,
let's not get worse. I know there, but there's a
lot of women that have that are dating younger men now. Too,
you know, so I feel like.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It's definitely become more popular in recent years, and I
decided to live it, and I you know, I told
my showrunner, who I trusted implicitly, who was a woman,
and I said, this is what I'm going through, and
you know, I need you guys to just take the
ride with me and be as sensitive as you possibly
(29:36):
can to how I'm going to live through this on TV.
And they were, and I was grateful to Bravo and
grateful to my production company for how they handled it.
Doesn't make the breakup any easier, but you know, it's
now been some time and Eric and I have remained friends.
He still trains me because I don't know what do
I do without him, and you know, we've been able
(29:59):
to kind of work through it and maintain a friendship,
which has been really great because he's he's a great guy,
and he came into my life for a reason, and
for three and a half years, I think, you know,
brought a lot to my life in terms of keeping
me focused. He's not your typical like late twenties party boy.
(30:19):
He was like, had me up at five point thirty
in the morning to work out and make sure I
was eating healthy and getting to bed early so that
I could be ready for work. And I've never had
anybody in my life like that before. So we've worked
through it and we're maintaining a friendship. And you know,
(30:40):
who knows what happens when either one of us gets
into maybe a more serious relationship with.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Some He's probably not going to train the new guy now,
and I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
She's not going to be you know, a new girlfriend
of his might not be thrilled that he still trains
in my guest house.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh that's yeah, yeah, day by day? Will you the
next season? Will you like, will you show dating and that? Like,
will you be open on that side too?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I mean tune in to see.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
We can see. We love a little cliffhanger.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Tell you what it's. It's a ride dating in La,
you know, like I let John, I let my friends know. Like, look,
you guys know me better than anyone. If you think
there might be someone that I might hit it off
with or there could be good for me, I'm open
to going out with them. So that happened.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That happens, Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Biggest red flags that you see from other realtors.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Bravado that isn't aligned with any kind of background or
understanding of what it takes to be successful in this business.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I love Tracy get to Nashville. Let's sing out. Do
you ever follow any other realtors and kind of see
what they're doing, because I feel like a lot of
influence on social media can be beneficial to also selling
or do you see the other way?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Absolutely, I think a lot of a lot of agents
have done really well on social media, and I think,
you know, it's like providing like education because there's so
much media out there about what's happening in the market
and what's positive and what's negative, and really like we
are in our markets, like I know what is happening
(32:37):
in Beverly Hills, bel Air, Malibu, the Palisades, the Valley
because I'm living it every day. You know, the national
news is going to tell a story that speaks to
what's happening nashally, not specifically in Nashville, in your community
and what those sales might be. So I think it's
really important as an agent in your community that you're
(32:59):
speaking to your clients and your followers about what really
is going on. And there's also some you know, at
the end of the day. Social media is supposed to
be fun as well, and I there's some really hysterical
agents that I follow that you know, have a lot
of fun with it, you know, but also are great agents.
But you know, we can't take these markets too seriously
(33:21):
because the nature of the beast is it's a rollercoaster
and you know, only the strong will survive.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Sure do you think it's is it a buyer's or
a seller's market? Right now?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's a flat market?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Say either?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Is there and I joke?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
But the truth is, you know, we have a little
bit of a lack of inventory because you know, people
who bought and were lucky enough to buy in twenty
twenty or twenty twenty one when interest rates were between
two and two and a half percent can't afford to
sell right now because why would you go buy the
same price house at seven and a half percent when
(33:57):
you've got an interest rate at two The cost you
way too much money. So those sellers don't want to
put their houses on the market, and then those buyers,
I mean, I don't know if you guys remember if
any of you guys were in the market when interest
rates were at two and a half, and I was saying,
buy now and lock in a long term interest rate
(34:17):
that's going to serve you down the road. And they
were like, the prices are just crazy and the prices
are too high. Well, here we are two years later.
Prices are still high because there is still a lack
of inventory, except now the interest rate has tripled.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Correct. I'm one of the ones that settled in at
like a two point one, I think, and like, we
will just never leave.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Girl, We're just so cozy.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I'm like, you're good, yeah, but I do know. Hey,
any have they ever talked about rebranding the show, because
Miller not a million dollar listing doesn't quite apply to
our twenty twenty four prices anymore, especially where you are.
So I'm just wondering, are we going to multimillion? We're
just going to keep the branding.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Be married to the brain.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
How many words does it take? Well, yeah, several million dollars.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Listen, money, you tell us, Tracy, you're the one who's
a million dollars. Now, it doesn't really come.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
And by the way, like you know, and now I've
said this to my team, and you'll you'll see a
little bit of this on the show. You know, gone
is the day when selling a ten million dollar house
in six in you know two days is over. So
instead of instead of like begging and searching and trying
to find that big big listing and like transition guys
(35:32):
sell five two and a half million dollar listings because
those are still turning and make Yes, you're going to
have to work ten times harder to make the same
money or you can just sit and do nothing. And
you know, my position, as obviously a team leader of
you know we now have a team of close to twenty,
is to make sure that they understand how to pivot
(35:54):
in a market like this. I've lived through some downturns.
I was in the two thousand and eight crisis, so
I know that if they're not if you're not pivoting
as an agent right now, at the end of this year,
you're going to be like waiting tables or figuring out
how to make ends meet.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
But like you said, we should all wait tables. And
I served my time at the had all of them
at Greek Island, and uh, all of like literally every
single one, I think to learn to dances at Joe's Crabshack.
You would, I would, I would never apply because they
would take coordination.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I worked at j Lo's Salsa Bar, and yes you did.
I had the salsa outfit and I had to carry
Martini's and I was like on the dance floor. So
they were like, we're going to put you at the
postest stands.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Somewhere a little more stable. My girl, my girl. Oh
that's it. Well, Tracy, thank you so much for coming
on the show. Everyone watching a million Dollar listening Los
Angeles Heason fifteen, airing now on Bravo. We love you.
You are so sweet. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Thanks, thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
All right, bye bye. Oh she's precious. I love women
like Tracy because it just makes me really motivated. That's
why I enjoy that part of the show.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, I love that show.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Not that this matters, it's just she looks I know.
I want to know too. I want to know how
old she was. I don't know why, but I just
want to know she's forty eight. She looks amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, she looks amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Something in the water out there. They doesn't never it's
all too good. The pin. Do you guys go to
your high school graduations? I mean, shoot, reunions. I have
not I've gone to one, You've gone to one? Which one?
Like the ten? Gosh, fifteen, twenty? Are we in twenty?
What are we? Yeah? At twenty? Yeah, I guess it
(37:50):
would have been.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I didn't do any of them. I'm twenty nicks. But
that's it.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
So, like, you know, like when you're in high school.
I used to get really excited thought of having, yeah,
a reunion. I thought it'd be like so fun, you know,
and so we have this reunion page on Facebook or
like the our high school year. There was like ten
people that went to the last one, and like that
broke my heart because I'm like, I just imagine, like
you want to. No, I didn't go. I don't care
(38:18):
if I okays a point, all right, well I don't go.
But I'm just saying, like, I think I think it
would actually be fun to go and see people that
I haven't seen in years.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I'm I do too.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I don't know how I feel that. I feel fine,
I'm good. Not just catching up on Facebook feels good.
Say yeah. What I had learned is that the girl
with two first names was equally as shady ten years
later as she was in high school. And I had
hoped for better. So I just feel like I'm find her. Yeah,
I mean I actually really enjoyed high school. I was
(38:51):
this will be shocking, the one that cried all the
way down the aisle because I didn't want it to
be over. It was like my career. I just loved
it there. It was special and I may Evil and
my coaches and I just loved it.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Oh that was definitely not me.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Definitely not made. I barely made my graduation.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I hated graduations tracked.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Well, my mom, this is this will very track. But
I didn't I tell you guys the story of my graduation.
I was like the ceremony and everything. I was used
to be the figure skater for the Red Wings games,
and it was when they were going to go for
the I think it was the two peet in two
thousand and two, and I was the skater before the rounds,
so like I'd come out like the round girl, and
I got to like they didn't give me a ticket,
but I got to stand right by the zamboni every show,
(39:31):
and it was amazing. The zamboni needs its own moment,
it does, and so I stood there watched all the games,
and then I found out graduation was going to be
the same night as the like Round two or something,
and I was like, Mom, I was like, oh my gosh,
I can't miss it. She's like, I know, you can't
miss the game. So I was like, what do we do?
So she had her like cop friend, get me to
go talk to go skate the the round, go to graduation,
(39:55):
walk the stage, peace out, go back to the game.
It's just a still on brand for who you are today.
It's just literally, yeah, it's just a little flashback.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Call her name. She walked right out on the police escort.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I mean there's some really, there's a lot, but you
are there's a lot. There's You're the person that will
always make a way. I had to. It was the
freaking finals. Meanwhile, and everyone the round girl giving them
a disc a CD of I hope you dan't tearful
tucking in my high school career. High school career, what
(40:33):
a time wait to leave. But there are people, but
there are people that I would love to see again. Yeah,
and just I talked to some of them on Facebook.
I don't go on Facebook a lot, but there are
some like like Aaron Wadell. She was always like the
sweetest human and like you know, I'd like to be like,
how are you, how's your family? Like, you know, actually
in person, have like good conversations. Yeah, I would do
(40:55):
an in person I do. I actually really super loved
our people. We just had really great people. I think
we did too, But I kind of keep up with
them now, which is fun. That's the fun part about
like Facebook and Instagram just special s. Yeah, I feel
like it's been so much too much time past for
me to like slide into some people's you know, and
then I don't know. I was always just crying anyways
(41:16):
over my high school boyfriend, which also started back backlash forward. Yeah,
I was talking everyone. You were crying O ride school boyfriend,
just all the same. I know. Kat was like, and
this business plan is done and we're moving forward to
the Manchester.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
That really talked to many people.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
And that's a close on this calendar year. That was
that's fantastic. Kat's like, this is the natural next step
in college. Yeah, that's what I was doing. That's Hilaire's
throwing out her planner, maybe keeping it just in case,
just in just in case. All right, ladies, that was fun,
See you next week.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Bye bye,
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