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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart Radio.
Well together everything, So don't don't do what's annexing my
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sudit and land. That was a that was a hit
through opening ha ha ha. It's always good starting off
on opening hitlery note, just a note, don't have to
I was reading. I was reading. Somebody found some old
comments from people when the Lord of the Rings movies
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before they had come outside. It was just the ads, yeah,
and the people were like complaining about like the orc
um pits in the ground and are when having a
personality vaguely and all this kind of stuff. And it
reminded me of my own feelings when the movie Downfall
came out, which is that Bruno Gan was just way
too fussible to play hit. Um. Yeah, that's whatever they
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still say. Sophie's politely nodding as if she knows what
you're talking about, and I know she doesn't like I don't. Yeah, um,
how are we all doing today? I all right, I'm
all right, I'm okay, you're okay, I'm all right and okay, yeah,
I'm okay, and all right, you're not. What's wrong the world? Actually?
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I mean, broadly speaking, We've got some good news today
because the Russian state polled some of its troops back
from the Ukrainian border. Ask about this because, well, but
did they though it was so? I mean, I know
that they did hold on, but like, I know that
there was this whole talk about, like when the training
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drills were done, like to watch to see if more
troops go to the border versus go home. And I
know that some places went home, but it doesn't seem
like there's any real retreat. So I'm just confused, there's
there's legit or just like them fucking with everybody. They
pulled back some troops enough that the people who I
think are worth paying attention to our saying, well, they
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could still invade and take some stuff, but they are
like this. This suggests that whatever they're looking at, it
is not like the nightmare you know, take Kiev kind
of full. So if there is you know, some sort
of direct kind of action they're planning, it's probably more
limited to like, you know, the separatist areas and maybe
taking places like Constantinivka or whatever that are kind of
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close for them. Um, not that that's good, but it
also makes me hopeful that maybe this is was was
always more about pressure UM to try to push against Ukraine,
joining NATO, to try and get missiles removed, to try
and get other kinds of concessions, to try and get
recognition of the separatist areas. Like we'll see what actually happens,
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but it's it's positive, like and one of the things
that's happened. So obviously the US announced, what was it
last week that like we think Russia is going we've
we've we've intercepted whatever, that Russia's gonna invade UM and
now Russia's like they put out an announcement as they
started pulling some of their troops back, saying that like
basically the sixteenth is going to be internationally recognized as
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like a day when it was proved that like US
intelligence agencies or you know, can't be trusted and like
have bad info and that may have been part of
the plan from the beginning. Is just like you know,
kind of like fun which I'm like, honestly, I don't
give a ship as long as Ukrainians don't have to
deal with more war like I find Russia conflict owning
US or whatever. That's that rule. It's good for you guys.
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I feel like they're already other days that recognize that,
Like this isn't the first. Yeah, I don't think we
needed that, but we don't need it whatever, Like I'm
not going to complain, Yeah I don't. All I care
about in the end here is that like Ukraine doesn't
get more invaded than it's been invaded for the last
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almost too decades. Less would be great, would be great,
but this is two so I'm not going to hope
too much. I mean, there are still troops there, so
less invaded is a start. Yeah, less invaded is good. Um,
so fingers crossed the uh this all gets resolved in
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a way that doesn't lead to a massive um expansion
in the number of people dying violently in Ukraine. That
would be good. That's really all I care about at
this point. It really has been so much more intention
there for forever forever. Yeah. I was going to say
a while, but forever is much more accurate. Yeah. Well,
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Ukraine is badly located. Um, it's great for growing all
of the food because it grows all of the food
in Europe, but it's also like in the middle of
all of Europe or in between. It's in between Europe
and Russia. Um, and it grows all the food. It's sorry,
I should say, it's in between Europe, Russia, and the
Middle East, so it's the cross roads of Asia, the
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Middle East and Europe. And it also grows a shipload
of food. So it's just kind of been rough there
for most of the existence of organized civilization. Um And
I would just like it if that it didn't get
any worse right now, that would be nice. That would
be nice. Fingers crossed for Ukraine. Finger's toes crest all
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the vibes to Ukraine. Yeah, Yeah, that's what Ukraine really needs,
is vibes. Vibes for Ukraine. That's gonna that's gonna do it.
Let's get it going, guys. Let's get hashtag vibes for
Ukraine going. It is it is. It says a lot
about like the people there and just how life has
been for them that like, as this has been going on,
you know, I've been checking in with a number of
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folks and like people I know who are Russia focused
experts have been like, I don't think they're going to
invade The people I know who are like conflict journalists
or kind of on the U s side of analyzing
this have been like, they're definitely going to invade, and
then all of the Ukrainians I know have been like,
who the funk knows? Yeah maybe, yeah, yeah, that could happen.
About the bush, Yeah sure, I mean it's Ukraine. It
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is a drinking town, you know. Um, Kiev is a
great city to get wasted, and I once puked on
a sushi dinner there, but that's a story for another day. Um, Like,
can we talk about the Crypto Bowl? Yes, God, yes,
abs a fucking lutely, let's celebrate Ukraine not currently being
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invaded by a hundred thousand additional Russian troops, although maybe
in the future. Um, by talking about the Crypto bol
that sounds incredible. Yeah, did you catch it? I bought
it all, bought all the money, did it? I am in?
I am in crypto now? Yeah, I am crypto now.
I got one of the apes, which one the boardhist
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of the apes on the board apes? Oh man, I
think they're all kind of ugly. Um not no, not
the one you got. My favorite tweet following the Super Bowl, uh,
was from Noah Garfinkel. One reason I still have trouble
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believing cryptocurrency is money. Is that there aren't commercials for
money to advertise money the dollar, catch the fever, um,
don't get cooked by pounds be a euro man. Well,
so so tell me this. So like I'm trying to
give crypto what it does not deserve, which is the
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benefit of the doubt. Um, because they were ads well
because their ads for like platforms where you trade crypto. Right,
it wasn't like it wasn't thanks are bad, but they
are a centralized place where you put your money and
exchange it exactly right. Yeah. Um so uh maybe uh,
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crypto isn't the decentralized freedom money that people seem to
apply that it is, um, But I will just say
it was not necessarily commercials for money. It was commercials
for platforms where you can buy money. It was commercials
for platforms where you can trade unregistered securities like that.
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That's what it is. That's like why Jordan Belfort's back
like into crypto, because you can even if you've repeatedly
gone to prison for breaking financial crime laws because it's
it's it's in this weird gray area and that's the
only reason. Like what is happening right now? Um, nineties like,
the vast majority of crypto is owned by like one
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percent of the motherfucker's who have cryptocurrency. There's number one,
not all that many people who own crypto, and even
fewer her own inn f T s, and most of
both are held by a tiny number of people, and
they are billionaires on paper, but they can't be billionaires
in the real world because there's not that much actual
cash in the cryptocurrency system. If you've got three billion
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dollars in in bitcoin and you were to cash that out,
you would get a fraction of that because number one,
you would drop the price of bitcoin. At number two,
there's just not that many people pumping new cash in.
Most of these big sales are like somebody who has
half a billion dollars in crypto bought in n f
T for half a billion dollars, but half a billion
in crypto that they can't really get out of the
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system unless more people marks what we call them in
the common pump cash in so that the people who
want to be billionaires in the real world have a
chance of actually liquidating their crypto assets and turning them
into cash which you can use to buy islands. Yeah,
don't do it. The carnivals. They packed them on the
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back of shocked to mark them. What you're doing as
a rube, your rubes. I like this part of the
this fortune article. But despite the millions spent on making
and airing the ads, the price of cryptocurrencies such as
bitcoin and Aretheum's ether flatlined afterwards, with the overall crypto
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market down on Monday eight pm, he's your time about
two percent over the previous twenty four hours. You know
where I think it is? What I what I honestly
think is a big part of what's going on right now,
like why it's it's dropping. It's other people have mentioned
this online if you remember, and you'd have to be like,
are you guys are both a little over than me, right, Cody? Yeah? Yeah, um,
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you would have to be. I think I am the
youngest you can possibly be and and really get this directly.
They look like the Internet ads you were saying, come, yeah,
it does these Internet ads on the Super Bowl? So yeah,
two thousand and a tumble Yeah yeah, I know, the
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bubble like it burst like that was the like you
you saw like tons of these Super Bowl as for
again like pets dot com. Uh, and then that was
when the decline started. Yeah, and it's one of those things.
I I spend so much time being negative about crypto
because number one, I think the people who are making
a lot of advertisements about it are just fucking lying um.
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And and number two, I think that the things they
are trying to frame as the killer app used for
kind of crypto are nonsense. Um. There's a lot, especially
like early on, there was some stuff about bitcoin that
was really cool. There was some stuff that could have
been something, and there's still promise of the general idea
of trying to make a decentralized not connected to any
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government store of value. That's hard too harder to trace that. Like,
there's a number of like potentials within some of the
ideas in cryptocurrency. But as soon as bitcoin became a
speculative asset, that's all crypto is now. That's all any
of this Web three ship is now. It is all
pump and dumps um. Which isn't to say that like
aspects of crypto will never make their way into something
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Useful's like the metaverse. Yeah, some of the ship that
is part of these metaverse plans will be something people
want one day. There are aspects of this stuff that
people want, but the overall thing they're trying to sell
you is a fucking con um and it I can
tell you it's a con because, like, as a dude
who's into technology, as somebody who bought a stupid fucking
Microsoft two screen phone because I thought it looked neat,
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I am waiting for somebody to talk to me about
crypto or web three in a way that's like, yeah,
that seems like a neat idea that I want, but
no one has. No one has told me a way
a utility other than you can gamble and maybe get
rich if you're lucky, and like, that's not I can
gamble on Yeah, I could go to Vegas crab buffet.
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At least there's those memories. Well maybe those memories won't
last if you drink hard enough, but yeah, you won't
want them to last. You lose a lot of money.
But yeah, but I do wanna pivot slightly. If you
guys give me not permission, I claim permission before we
go to to talk a little bit more about the
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Super Bowl. I think maybe we should touch on sexual anarchy, right,
like the response to an undisputable epic halftime the difficulty
with sexual anarchy is that even if you're somebody who
has rejected sort of the idea that that love is
fundamentally functions in an economy of scarcity, and you're open
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to the idea of multiple partners, hierarchy is so kind
of ingrained in the way that we treat relationships that
it is really difficult to have non multiple, non hierarchical
relationships with Oh, you guys were talking about the Charlie
Kirktin was talking about, not relationship anarchy, the lifestyle choice.
Certainly could spend some time on packing that as well. Now,
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just in general, the fucking I mean, I I still
don't understand what was sexual anarchy about that than talking
about just like there were some dance women dancing their
legs Janet Jackson's it came out. Yeah, damn night did
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it was revealed for all that was no shame, Janet.
We love you years ago. Yeah, it was like twenty
years ago. We were literally invading multiple countries and everybody
took a break from that to be like, well, this
is the problem we ought to focus on as a country.
I love it interesting that it's the same time it
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is interesting, isn't it isn't it interesting? Interesting? But also,
you know what was the other one? I don't have
it in front of me from someone talking about these hoodlums,
but it would be better with like Kid Rock? Did
they use you know, maybe I'm combining a couple of
tweets that I saw, but yeah, there was so one
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thing that would be better with Kid Rock. And it
is like a boat crash. Like if you were to
tell me there was a boat crash involving Kid Rock,
I would be like, well, that's that's awesome, that's fun. Good, Um,
that was fun for him. I am so like, I
didn't watch this. Um, oh it was so good. No, no, no,
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it was such a good halftime show. I'm sure it
was good and fine and all these artists. I'm scrubbing
through this video and I am really struggling to see
what he meant by sal anarchy. It is a there
was one woman performer, like literally like maybe one minute
of some women dancing. Um, what a character that guy.
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Maybe he met that section where it was all a
bunch of Dr Dre's dancing around. I don't know, it
just seems like the thing he knew he was supposed
to say, right, Yeah, I think he was owing to
say this and had this tweet planned out before he
ever saw the halftime show. And he's trying to do
it because a lot of the people that Charlie Kirk
is inspired by, the right wing ship heads of an
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earlier generation made a lot of money and raised their
profiles yelling about Janet Jackson that one time. So he's like,
hopefully I can do the same. Yeahs. He knows his inspiration,
and he also knows his audience, who are the same age.
Um right, Like he's appealing to fifty sixty year olds
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who used to complain about this stuff and are happy
to have like, oh, finally the young people get it.
And we all gave him the oxygen on Twitter the
next day and on this show. Not me, but yeah,
now we're talking about it. So I don't know what
are we gonna do. Do you think this crypto is
going to catch on? I don't. Um. I think maybe
a different version of it one day will will the
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aspects of it will be a thing again, as I said,
but I think I don't think people are going to
get into this because all it is is gambling, and
so some people are going to get into it. To
try to gamble, But like, what is the utility do
most people want to own n f T S? No,
because most people look at it f T S and go, well,
I don't even own any real art. And I read
a very funny article in the New York Times that
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was about um, big crypto guys and f T collectors
like buying actual art um and like purchasing physical art
and being like, yeah, I want to expand my collection.
Yeah with something that's real, of course, Yeah, you want
a real real artists like selling your work. Um. I
love the idea. Also that like this is like you know,
like it's like decentralized and like we like we're it's
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like the elite don't want you to do this, and
like we're gonna like take it back. But now it's
just like so fucking like Matt Damon and like all
these like extremely wealthy people are telling you to buy
these awful because exactly because their agency told them to write. Um, guys,
we had to take a quick break for the advertisements
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and then we'll be back finalism, by which I mean
Jimmy Fallon, enjoy these ads, m together everything. We're back
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real quick. Jimmy Fallon doesn't have a soul, right, Like
there's when when the canvas turn off, it's just a
dial tone inside his head, right Like he's just a
yawning void of hunger for attention. That that's it, right that.
I feel like it's a void where there's like a
single can't laugh. Yeah, yeah, there's there's nothing going on.
Like if you're alone with Jimmy Fallon, the quiet, the
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emptiness at the center of him will consume you. That's
why he has to have a studio audience. Yeah, it's like, um,
like a like a horror movie where you hear like
a bunch of like like school children goes like London
Bridge is following like something like that. But it's just
his laughter. Yeah, I feel confidence saying there's nothing that's
more for tightening to me than Jimmy Fallon. Well did
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you uh? I mean, I think we gotta give him
at least a little credit for pickling a really good ape.
He did pick a great ape, you know, yep, yep,
I was gonna give us get us going. Did you
always want to watch a commercial and react to it?
We want to move on to another time? Yeah, yeah,
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let's watch a commercial and react to it. Let's give
the people what I want. Yeah, let's give it. I
don't care what you see that. You see that Biden
tweet which one Biden tweeted about how like if you
know last night's Super Bowl ads indicate that the future
is electric vehicles. There are a lot of electric vehicle commercials,
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and it was just really funny that, like, ay, that's
the indicator. And also like did you see all the
crypto ads? Mr President? Did you notice that too? I
liked the one that was obviously taking aim at Tesla.
There was an electric car ad did say our cars
don't explode, explode, We're not building a single tunnel. That
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was one, but there was one that was clearly taking
at aim at Tesla. Okay, uh, this is the one
that everybody was talking about. It's really stupid dope to pay.
Oh is this the fucking This is the ad where
they've got like a QR code. Right, So I didn't
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see this one. It was like, this is perfect for
an audio medium, Sophie. Yeah, what we're seeing is just
a c and like a retro looking sea bouncing around
um a screen like like like a barcode thing. And
it went on for what seemed like forever. Yeah, so
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coin bases like sort of like a bank. I'll explain
to you a crucial way in which they're different in
a minute. Uh. And they put on an AD that's
like a QR code based bouncing around the screen and
if you, if you, if you like, scan the thing
with your phone, you'll get a free and f t right.
And that was the Super Bowl giveaway. And of course
they ponied up what was it, sixteen million dollars for
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this ad, but they did not prepare their servers for
the amount of people who would be trying to get
a free thing. Um, and it crashed immediately, which is
funny but also entirely expected. Now here's a fun piece
of information about how coin base is not a bank
because if a bank, right, if your bank were to
like collapse for some reason, suddenly you would go to
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the federal reserve. And perhaps this would take a little while,
but you could go to the Federal Reserve Reserve and say, hey,
I need all of my money which is guaranteed by
the f D i C you know, um, and they
would get you your money. That's how that's why why
we have a federal part of why we we built
all this stuff is because it used to be if
your bank went under, you were fucked forever, and now
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it is not the case because we decided that was
a bad way to run an economy. If coin Base
goes down, it is not a bank. It is basically
like an investment kind of structure thing, and so if
it goes down, there's a legally a list of like
when they try to kind of sort out the assets
of a failed investment thing, like what coin base actually is.
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There's a priority list of who gets paid out what
they put in first. And because of legally what you
are when you put your money into coin Base, you're
at the bottom of that list. Yeah, Like it's not
a bank. Yes, your rapes are gone, yeah, or at
least all of your money. Um, anyway, it's cool. It
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sounds like, yeah, okay, what's this one. Here's here's the
lebron James crypto on Yeah, what the funk? That's a crypto.
Here's the thing. I had no idea that was about crypto.
I just like the that's a sneaky, motherfucking sneaky. It's
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first of all, this I mean the c G I
on Young Lebron is very bad and that's kind of funny,
but yeah, it's it's it's like when you're watching something
and you don't and then all of a sudden, it's like,
Toyota is on your side and it has nothing to
do with Toyota. Crypto did the same thing. Yeah, except
for all all the ways Toyota is on my side.
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Because when the war happens, that's what I will be writing.
The Battle in Toyota. You're gonna says, because Prius is
don't die. Prius is to what any kind of Toyota? Really? No,
I mean, it's that's gross. It's obvious what they're doing. Like,
Lebron is an inherently charming person. You just tend to
like him when he's in things because he's Lebron James,
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that Lakers huge n I've never watched him play, but
he's a he's a a fun guy to witness do things. Um,
so they're they're trying to like because again, they're trying
to get in an extra pile of cash for the
people who want to be real billionaire to take out
before all this thing collapses. And the way they're going
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to do that is by using the credibility and the
charm of celebrities to try to con you into throwing
some money into this. It's also a crypto fallon factor
that Jimmy fallon factor crypto dots and was. I think
that's why it was Lebron is because crypto dot com
arena is for the Layah. Yeah, Lebron James. If you
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were going to ask me where his money is, I'll
bet you I'm right. It's in a mix of cash
like stocks and real estate, because that's what people with
money do with it. They either have assets, some of
them are physical, some of them are ownership and companies. Uh,
and they also have a pile of cash so that
they can do things with it. Um. I love the
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implication like there are all these sort of the approach
for a lot of these ads is like you want
to get it in on the ground floor with this.
This is the next big thing. Remember when like the
Internet was being nay said, Remember when like cell phones
came out and you're like, well that's silly, Well that's
what's going on with crypto now, when like that's not
at all the same thing, and those are all like
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things even back in the day, we're like, well, there's
obviously a case for why this is going to be
useful and people want it and need it. It's going
to be no one, no one anyone took seriously on
it was saying the Internet isn't anything. They were saying
usually talking about like well, these digital communities of these
digital games are just like silly distractions. But those people
were still like using email right like or these companies
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were using emails. The Internet Internet, it was immediately obvious
debates about what things would be popular. There isn't a
world where I in ten years and just like that
we're all using crypto. The way the ability to use
the Internet to connect everybody across the planet um to
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like share information, that ability that technology was never called
a am no, but yeah, it was amazing and it
it was very obvious to everyone that like, well, what
are you human beings value most in life. It's connecting
to other human beings. What does the Internet do? It
connects people. Obviously something's going to happen with is there
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debates There are people who are like, well, I don't
know that e commerce is going to take off, right, Like,
I don't know that a bookstore online is and that's sure,
you can point to those people, but like that's different
than saying the internet is never going to be a thing. Yeah,
scam for people to quickly like it's it's ridiculous and uh,
the idea it's just a it's a it's a funny
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little move that they're trying. Um. Yeah, but uh, it's
also also like the people the people who are saying that,
like the internet is, like is the internet gonna work?
We're like people in the media and like celebrities. Uh
and what are they saying now they're saying by crypto
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so I don't know. So yeah, it's it's just one
in general. Here's a good piece of life advice from
somebody me who does not gamble but knows a lot
of people who do. Um, if someone on a massive
ad on the Super Bowl is trying to make you
feel like you can get in the ground floor of something,
you have missed the ground floor of that thing it was,
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it say, it's just like some big Ponzi scheme. It's
some big like I mean there have been multiple pons coins. Yeah,
actual schemes. Right. Matt Damon's like telling you, like, oh,
you gotta get into the future. Is like, well, let's
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think of all of the many things Matt Damon has
been ahead of the curve on water, apples, apples, apples,
how much the apples like them? Apples and presumably presumably yeah,
he probably did like Ben Affleck before the rest of us,
did I think so that hope one would hope? So yeah,
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before got the back tattoo that made him a hero.
It's not coming back from that. Uh, We're gonna take
a quick break and then we will be back back tattoon, tattoo,
coin together everything, So don't don't don We're back and
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you're right, Tody. I am sure that Lebron got paid
for that cryptoad and actual money. My guess was us right?
He can afford to gamble, so yeah, maybe he gets
back end points or something. Um, let's finish up the
show talking about something else. Should we talk about these
Tesla laws or should we talk about the Canadian convoy.
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We're talking about that and it could happen here. Garrison's
done a deep dive. Um, we can talk about it
a little bit. Because the cops just busted Uh. I
think they rested eleven guys the r c MP with
an arms cash Um, that's cool. Uh, And uh, I
am kind of it's it's very unsettling because like this
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is a problem and no reasonable person who's not an
idiot would have let it get this bad. But Trudeau
is pretty dumb and the cops are shitty. Um. But
also the way they're now choosing to fight back, Trudeau's
being like we're going to like basically like the the
threats that the Canadian state is now making in order
to crack down on this are going to be used
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and applied much more heavily to the left and like
criminalizing people who donate money, um to for example, indigenous
efforts to stop pipelines. That's what the president is going
to be used for. Well is it even like a
president either, Like, I mean, I like this this particular
act they've they're like yemoking, but like they've all like
they cracked down on these types of protests all the time. Yeah.
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I don't mean to say the legal precedent, but what
what's new is the threat of like criminal sanction against
people put money, don't spit, like donate money to this
kind of thing. And I am worried about how that
will be used in the future. I guess I didn't
mean like precedent and sort of like the court case precedent,
but just well, if they're threatening these motherfucker's with that,
they're gonna yeah obviously, like that's always how it works. Yeah,
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and they have in the past already, So this is
just another tool that they're going to be able to justify. Um. Yeah,
I don't know. Um, if you're I think freeze the
bank accounts of like protesters to get to stop, maybe
that's not good. And yeah, it might have stopped. This
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is um responses like we had in places like Charlottesville
in Portland where huge numbers of people gathered a counter
them and then do hundreds of thousands of dollars in
damage to their vehicles with throw bricks. Um, well, there's
a plan in case it comes here to the States,
maybe something like that. There's talk about it. It's very
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hard to tell, like the extent to which it's going
to happen. This is a different kind of like one thing.
Part of what they're talking about is like driving from
the West coast up to like DC, but you know
everyone knows they're coming. You can prepare. You can't take people. Boy, howdy,
that is a long that is a big long haul.
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I've done that drive a few times. That is that
is that is a very expensive drive, um in especially
in an eighteen wheeler or any kind of like of
the large vehicles these guys like to celebrate having. Um
it wasn't cheap and a fucking prius, you know. Uh
so I don't know, and it is, of course I
don't know. It's interesting. Interesting is not the right word
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UM to compare right wing media's response the glorification of
what's happening versus how they talk about any sort of
protest here or you know, protests that aren't down the economy,
that aren't disrupting uh getting kids to school or what
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have you? Going to work? And yet these people are
heroes because you know, oh yeah, that's always going to
be the case. Where I don't think there's anything inherently
wrong with um trying to shut down or do damage
to the local economies, because that was a big part
it was happening, A big difference in the conversation that's happening.
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And had this been Black lives matter, granted I understand
this is Canada, but still had that been a Black
Lives matter protest, Oh yeah, the military would be they
would be bombing. I don't know if they'd be bombing,
but there would be severe consequences. There would already be
dozens of people with enough charges to keep them in
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prison the rest of their lives. Um. Yeah. So I
don't know, like it's one of those things. I don't
care what happens to any of these people, outside of
the fact that I don't like the precedent that Trudeau
is kind of setting with the specific threats that he's making.
It seems plays in which he's going after the issue
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with you know, our civil liberties, well Canadians, but they're
basically us, and I would hope that Canadian moderates and liberals.
The lesson they're kind of taking out of this is that, oh, yeah,
the cops cannot be relied upon to do anything. We
have to take self defense into our and they're they're
definitely have been more has been mobilizing people trying to
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like funk up their comms and stuff. Um, there have
been more counter protests and whatnot. People have liked shown
up to try and protect hospitals and stuff from these folks,
where like like the hospital has been sent there's some
funked up letters, like hospitals have been sending employees being like,
don't leave the hospital in your surgical scrubs, don't let
people know you're a healthcare worker like that, you could
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get attacked. Um. Yeah, there's some fucked up ship UM,
and I hope that responses continue to mobilize. I know
this took most people. Like this took a lot of
folks by surprise. It's always hard to tell part of
because like ship like this gets proposed on the right
all the time and you never quite know which one
is going to be something. UM. But obviously I think
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the the actual lesson here from encountering this is the
only way to fight this is um with the people
who are seventy of the people or more in fucking
Canada who think this is bullshit. Showing up and imposing
a cost one of the cool things that protesters have done.
I believe this was outside of Sacramento, where a bunch
of right wing rallies were being held pretty regularly is
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anti fascists. After some fights and stuff, some of them
started being like, well, instead of engaging directly with these
guys while they're showing up to like March around the capitol.
What if we slash all their tires, Like what if
we funk up all of their cars and we impose
a cost upon them? And that is, you know, at
various levels, that's the way to fight this. It's not always.
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I think one of the mistakes, like people in the
anti fascist sides make sometimes is over emphasizing like punching
nazis what really you need to do. What really works
to fight them is a variety of ways of imposing
a cost. And sometimes that cost is hitting the dude
in the face, but it can also be damaging a car.
It could be getting people fired, it can be getting
people towed. It is um it is making it harder
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and hurt more to do the ship they want to do.
I was having a conversation with a buddy of mine
who's a journalist, who is like, yeah, that's how I
see what I'm doing. Like, a lot of what I'm
doing is all right, well, who's funding this thing, who's
saying this stuff? All right now, I'm gonna reach out
to their employer, I'm gonna reach out to people who
are advertising to them. I'm going to cost the money
because there should be a cost to being a fascist.
Um And again, cost is a broad term. There's a
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number of ways to impose a cost. But at the
end of the day, the state is never going to
effectively impose costs on these people because a lot of
the folks whose job it would be to impose that
cost are basically in agreement with them. Um. And so
it's up to us to impose costs on fascists for
being fascist. Well, slash the tires allegedly publicly embarrassed them.
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We didn't say we're talking about roadblocks when we talked
about slashing tires in roadblocks. Cody and I play roadblocks
all the time. Katie's got a real good tire slashing
character in roadblocks. Roadblocks. It's like even smaller babies. It's
like Minecraft, but the Feds haven't caught onto it yet,
smaller babies. All right, So there's the State of California
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is suing tesla Um because the workers as one of
the things every shady company, like every company that's not
I'm gonna shady company thing, it's every company you generally
will make you sign something that means you can't sue
them for a bunch of ship. And so because the
employees of Tesla can't sue. The state of California is
suing um because it's so racist. Um. There's like a
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chunk of the factory in Fremont that they call the plantation.
They have other lessons. This story is so disturbing. What
it seems like it's happening structurally, right, is that Tesla
has this thing of if you are, say, a black
employee who experiences racism directed you by a co worker
or a superior, they don't fire that guy. They don't
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really penalize them at all. They just separate you. They
move you to an area where you're further away from them.
And the result of that, over time has been that
there is a specific chunk of the factory where all
of the black people work, that the racists in the
company refer to by a series of derogatory names. Um.
There have been employees reporting it here, like being subjected
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to racial slurs upwards of a hundred times a day. Um,
it's real gross. What is this? This is wild? I
totally did not hear this, But in October, a federal
jury ordered Tesla to pay a hundred and thirty seven
million dollars to oh and das, a black former employee
who said managers at Fremont, the Fremont plant ignored his complaints.
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Jesus Christ, that's a lot of money dollars. But then
I think of how much racism you have to deal
with for a court to be like, yeah, that guy
deserves a hundred and thirty seven million dollars. I mean,
I should double check this where we got this from.
But yeah, that's it looks like that's a that's a
like a class action or is that just a dude one? Yes,
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that's a lot of racism. Yeah, this has been building
for a while. Yeah, it's kind of reports about this
for a while exactly. Um, and this is sort of
a culmination of that. Um, it's not even this one says.
A few months before the verdict in the Diaz case,
an arbitrator awarded former Tesla employee Melvin Barry one million
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dollars in a race bias case. Berry claimed he was
called the N word and that he was given undesirable
jobs and hours after he complained. Imagine being this guy though,
and like a month or this other dude gets It's
theoretically possible that dude's experience was just a hundred and thirty. Yeah,
but still I'd be like, yeah, but it's horrifying. It's
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absolutely horrifying. Yeah, um, who would have thought that uh
um would uh do this and be a part of
this uh South African Emerald minor with creata a system
and environment that hero of internet rolls. Um, yeah, it's
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really terrible, and um, I'm sure there will be a
lot of pushback from Tesla and his little pr thing.
It's not even like the only terrible thing that came
out about Tesla last week. Um, I'm sure you saw
his I guess not Tesla but his neuralink yeahs, yeah,
(40:03):
all his monkey's gone. Um yeah, just like really uh cruel,
fucked up kind of stuff. I love everybody being like, well,
you gotta do you gotta do that if you want to.
If you want to, yeah, you gotta kill fifteen monkeys
by putting a chip in their brain if you shake
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and people might not want kind of reminds me and
I'm sure you guys didn't seem made for love of
this HBO mini series, But there's like an Elon Musk
esque man fucking with the world and with people anyway. Yeah,
show a hands, anybody willing to put a computer in
your fucking industry. I mean, we talked about this a
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little bit of even more news, but yeah, I mean
the implications of this, even if they didn't just kill
all the monkeys, Like what happens if the company goes bankrupt?
Who gets control of the chips that are in? Any questions?
Sound one? Like? Is that can they take the chip out?
What about the information from the chip? Is their data?
Can people hack it? Is it something that I got?
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I went to a body hack and convention and I
got an r F I D chip stuck into my
hand years and years ago, um that I could like
load a business card onto basically just because it was
neat um. And of course it stopped working after a while,
and you know it's just there, Oh my god, it's
still there. Yeah, of course, It's just one of those things.
It's like, well, yeah, I'm obviously never going to do
any bigger version of this because it seems not like
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a great idea and a little technology breaks a lot,
like even the best stuff has flaws in the coding always, Um,
it gets outdated quickly. It's just not a thing. I
barely want a computer in my pocket, Like I accept
the necessity of keeping a computer in the crypto. The
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world's not going to evolve in such a way where
I changed my mind on that. It's not going to
become Yeah, here's the thing I can't think of. There's
a number of things computers do that I like, which
is why I have so many computers. Um. I can't
think of a thing that a computer would do that
I would want it to be in my head. Texting, No,
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I'm good with texting, like I think phones allow me
all the texting I want to do. Phone calls. Again,
I don't really like phone calls, but to the extent
that I need to do them, my phone is more
than capable and convenient enough navigation. I don't think having
it go over my actual eyes would improve my my
experience driving at all, and in fact might be distracting
(42:38):
and cause make it more difficult to drive successfully. Browsing
the Internet. I'm good with my laptop and my my
tablet like. I don't need it to be in my head,
you know, in my coming out over my body like
I don't. I don't need to see that. Um. I
just can't think of many reasons. I'm sure there's some
military applications that I'm I'm sure it would be effective,
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like feasible in terms of finding and shooting stuff. Also, um,
I think well. And the thing with musk is it
will often frame things in ways that like, you know,
we talked about like well, we're gonna do the boring
uh company, we're gonna dig these tunnels and uh. But
also we're gonna save the dirt and make them into
bricks for affordable housing. So that's good, right, Um, Still
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no word on that, it's been like three years. Um. Well,
you know the big problem with affordable housing is not
enough bricks, not enough bricks exactly. Um. But the but
like with this, you know, they're gonna be applications for
like people with like disabilities and stuff potentially, But there
will at some point in the future human beings will
integrate computers into their body more than we currently do.
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And there will be a number of reasons to do that.
But that's not what he's doing or why, but he
can say it. Um. Uh, it's just gonna end up
being like, yeah, if you think about maybe texting somebody,
you'll accidentally text them like it is. Also, there's status
updates you give you whene're like, you'll see people say
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this sometimes when we talk about like some ridiculous seeming
product where it helps you slice eggs or something, and
it's like on some sort of home shopping network and
you're like, well, why would anyone want this? And the
reality is that, well, these are products that are made
for people who have some sort of physical disability and
they're incredibly useful for that, but the company is just
trying to maximize profits, so they also you know, attempt
to like sell them. And that's fine, but it also
(44:28):
like I wish again, I wish we had a system
in which it was like, no, we could just make
those products with people who need them, like we don't
have to. It's the stuff is like, yeah, you don't
need to frame it like this and like maximize your
profit and try to trick people. Like we can just
decide to like, let's we should spend money and time
to figure this out to help people. People got this
(44:48):
going on and that going on, and there's ways in
which putting a computer in their head, you know, could
could help with a specific health issue that they have,
could stop a seizure or whatever, Like awesome, yeah, throw
it wonderful to have some money put it. It sounds worth.
That sounds worth whatever risk. If there is a treatment
for something that's that's hurting my life or might kill me,
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it's worth the risk to say, chip me up. Yeah,
we found a way the blind. See. But you know
some some monkeys died as a part of the experiments.
Well then it's like, okay, Well, it's always sad when
people use animals for that purpose, but at least the
lives of potentially millions of people will will be helped,
you know. Um, or we're we've you know, it cost
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us again some rats or whatever, but we found a
way to stop seizures. Um okay, Like that's obviously people
can have moral feelings about that, but at least the
purpose of the technology for which life is being sacrificed
is to help improve quality of life or save life,
as opposed to like Elon Musk wants to allow you
(45:55):
to buy n f T s with your brain. Well,
I'll just say, uh, I I'm on board with Musk's microchip,
but I'm not on board with the microchip I got
from the vaccine. Yeah, I mean that's an important distinction
for sure. I think Thank you Cody for vaccine, microchip bad,
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uh monkey, Yeah, microship good. Yes, that's the title of
the episode. Monks musk dead monkey, micro chip good, Sophie.
And that is it for us today. I think that
is locked and loaded, episode titled Episode done. YEP, Episode done,
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emails to his physician UM, which is his wife. Fun
for everybody. Yes, Robert, will you plug the live stream
since it's happening? Where who are we want to do it? Yeah? Okay, uh,
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