March 16, 2022 • 52 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart
Radio Together Everything So don't don't don't, Oh Boys podcast
(00:26):
sure is from what I heard, legally distinct from a
TV show. The pods are out. I mean they're they're
legally distinct, sure, but also technically very distinct in and
of itself, in that it's an audio medium and not
visual at all. I love it. I love audio meetings mediums.
(00:48):
I love mediums. I like just going and talking to
mediums and I do too. Yeah, talk about past lives
and things like that. Past lives also, it's a good um, guys,
I have. If we're talking past lives, everyone's gonna kill
me online. But yes, I have talked to a psychic
who told me we can cut it out. You can.
(01:08):
There's some Cody already knows this or you should. Was
that I saved a lot of Jewish people in World
War two. I like, say, I hid people and like
my basement, and I was like, yeah, that checks out.
But then, um, the psychic also told me that I
was a dolphin and I died really violently and that's
(01:32):
why I have an aversion to water, and I do have.
I am a little afraid of the ocean, but don't
all dolphins die in the ocean. I am choosing to
believe that your past life was a dolphin who helped
rescue Jewish people. I think I think that that's a
story worth telling. And please everybody on Reddit especially, keep
(01:55):
your opinions about me on going to see a fucking
psychic who gives a shoe yourself like motherfucking funny fun diversion.
Sometimes it's it's it's fine, it's and jokes on you
when you come back as an aunt. Motherfucker. Okay, and
that also saves people during some sort of genocideide sort
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of genocide. The Schindler Oscar Schindler of ants. Yeah, you know,
I save much more munch of money for not going
to a psychic. This one actually is a sliding scale
that you pay afterwards. So so if you didn't like
what they said, she just really wanted it to be
affordable for whomever wanted her services. So and you don't
(02:43):
pay till afterwards. I was poor. If she tells you
your past life was Heinrich Hindler, you can be like, well,
I'm not paying for this out, You're not taking my money, Cody.
She also said that you're my twin, So that's cool
that it's true. Honestly, there's a lot going on here
that is worth unpacking, but not for this show. There is,
(03:07):
you know what is worth unpacking. I watched a TV
show that I liked pretty good recently, were it Advice Community?
Now I do that a lot, but no, the animated well,
actually this is does tie into that because the animated
Harley Quinn series, which I'm not a particular fan of
any of those comics, but one of the carry they have,
(03:27):
the Riddler, is played by Jim Rash, who does the
Dean Community, and they have have the Riddler be patterned
off of the Dean from Community. It's very fun. It's good.
It's good. It's a good call. Yeah. Um, he makes
such a funny Riddler. Oh he would, he would be
the perfect Riddle size that he didn't wear a Riddler
(03:48):
costume on Community at one point it's it's he's It's
it's pretty good. It's a pretty good show. I enjoyed
it a lot. If you enjoy Jim Rash and his
antics and superhero love, Jim Rash, the Oscar winning writer
Jim Right, check out sky High if you're familiar with
the movie, Scott, I've never seen that before and I
(04:09):
have not seen it. It's a so it's a it's
a superhero thing for like ten years ago, fifteen years ago,
and it's a sidekick heroes school. It's like a high school.
Uh yeah, this sounds right up my alley. Yeah. Like
two of the kids in the holler in it. Um.
Bruce Campbell is in it. Bruce Campbell and Jim Rash together,
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Jim Rash and he really oh Russell, Kurt Russell, Kurt Russell,
Jim Rash and Bruce Campbell are in a thing together.
Oh my god, Oh my god. Also, if you're a
fan of Succession, Greg from Succession is also in it.
Get Out. How long ago was this man? I want
to say, like years ago. So he was like a kid,
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Yeah he was, No, he was not yet New York's
most Eligi. No, I like it was. I've watched two
shows recently another so another if you watched the Expanse
Vampire Diaries. Know, if you watched the Expanse, the main
guy on the Expanse what's his name? But I've never
watched Thank you all all you expansies and Expanse heads
(05:19):
out there. Um, he I watched the entire first season.
It's like, I know you from something? What are you from?
What is this? What is this? What is the actor from?
But I wouldn't look it up until the final season
or to the end of the season, because I wanted
to give myself a chance. I didn't figure it out.
He's also from sky High. Um, so the Expanse and
Succession too amazing shows with great actors. I mean, I
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don't know much about any of that, but the fact
that Jim Rash, Kurt Russell, and Bruce Campbell are an
ething together has completely changed the world for me. Kevin McDonald,
they're all there. Oh, man, Cody, you're making this case.
You're making a strong case, and I'm going to go
watch that for sure. But I bet neither of you
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has watched Patriot yet. That's what I bet. I bet
neither of you have watched my recommendation that you're going
to love this is the time, not is that Time
killed the vibe here? Um, I've watched. I mean, I
don't normally watch new stuff, but but I'll try Patriot.
I've got to try Patriot, and I gotta try Peacemaker.
(06:25):
People keep talking about peace. I'm watching Peacemaker, and I
gotta say, so far, it's entertaining. I'm a little too
anxious and um for a lot of too much violence
right now, which is funny that I'm recommending Patriot, you know,
even if. But it's really good. Um, and the intro
is so fucking good. I play it, I rewind it
over and over, and I'm trying to learn the dan
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That's all I've seen, trying to learn the dance. It
always hits nice. Well, it seems like we're all having
a good time on TV. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure
the world is doing just as well as I as
part of that transition. Part of my problem with Peacemaker
and TV in general right now is that I can't
get through an episode. Um, I'm feeling wound up. I
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check my phone and then I'm reading something. I'm having
a hard time tuning out, so trying desperately in the world, Yeah, Robert,
m hmm. Let me just I'm gonna I'm gonna google
the world, and I'm gonna scroll over to the news
tab and I'm gonna see what's going on. Oh oh wow,
(07:29):
there's there's actually quite a few problems happening, right, Although
this Caribbean destination was just named the best beach in
the world. That's number three. Yeah, that's not so bad,
Is that really? I mean the article about the Ukraine
war stoking food in security is like six down. So
clearly yeah, tricks to help you think like the world's
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greatest designers. Yeah, so I think things are doing important
than the best places in the world to retire something
that is good? That is it that our priorities are
really locked locked in? Um? Cool? Cool? I think we
figured it all out. That's the episode where do we
want to start at the end by everybody? So, did
(08:18):
you guys know that now San Diego is ranking as
the least affordable city to buy a house over San Francisco? Wow?
Really that changed quick? Also San Diego like close behind.
I don't know, it was never in the top in
my head at least, so I would think that maybe
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during the pandemic. Um, so I went when the fires
were really bad here, I mean again, during the pandemic
it's ongoing. Um, but the that lockdown here, I'll start saying, um,
when the fires were really bad, I went to San Diego,
I went to college in San Diego. So I went
there for the weekend to like escape some of the
smoke because you couldn't go outside. Um in l A.
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And the hotel was filled with people from San Francisco.
So maybe there's something about them like wanting to stay
in California, but like being fed up. I mean, it's interesting.
Obviously this is anecdotal, Like all people who live in California.
I thought slightly more often about San Diego than I
do about did about Sacramento, and I never thought about sacraments. Look,
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I gotta tell you that I do not recommend moving
to San Diego. I lived in San Diego. Is very
depressed in San Diego. Um, I dropped out of school
for a little bit and had to like muscle build
up the courage to go back because I hated living
in San Diego. Yeah, I mean it's everyone calls America's
hell basket, but it's yeah, it's just attracts all these
I'm sorry if you're from there's lots of lovely people
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in the horrible place. It's there's there's no there's really
no one good. They're much like Russia, not a good person.
Like the violent protests in Portland and like San Diego,
so fucking violent, scumming villainy. The film surges above the waterline, beautile, tallantiful,
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but you guys, taco wonderful Mexican food, and it is
it is beautiful. It's just very nice people that I
don't want to hang out with. I just felt lonely
and isolated and like I couldn't find friends because there
was either like rich conservatives or a bunch of very
drunk frat boys. It was like, speaking of well, it
sounds like college your experience, It's like it's not San Diego.
(10:36):
It's like, oh, you just didn't like well, I didn't
like college in San Diego, and I think that I
would have enjoyed college at Berkeley. But I know I
needed to move to the other end of the state
to get away from my family therapy. It's news time.
I was about to go. This is this is now
the Ship Talking San Diego podcast. I mean, we've covered
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my my dicey, my dicey past lives, given back to Mexico.
I had the worst break I had my worst breakup
of my life in San Diego with a drunk frat boy.
See there you go. They're drawn to it, and there's
other people. I just I've been saying for years California
should end it to Mecula and we should have a
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thirty mile d m Z where nothing is allowed to live. No,
I feel bad. You can just boil the earth to
keep San Diego away. So we keep Temecula though, because
what is Temecula done well? Temecula has turned into a
giant d m Z where no life is allowed to
thrive in order to protect us from San Diego. You guys,
I just thought my partners from San Diego, all right,
(11:44):
she got a friend and say it's fine. Just throwing
that out there. Honestly, the only problem with San Diego
is you've got to deal with border patrol way more often.
You're gonna want to deal with border patrol. Horrible frat boys,
great tacos like you need to talk about the news. Yeah,
the new we're really nailing it so far. This wee
so earlier today in the news, earlier day in the news. Uh,
(12:08):
bipartisan effort to keep the daylight savings time all year round,
so the Sate. That's amazing. It's amazing the things that
we can agree on questions, daylight savings is what we're
in now. We just we just sprang forward into daylight savings. Yeah.
I believe we are currently in because I just do
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not ever need it to switch back. That's the one. Like,
let's not do this bullshit switch. This is the good one, right,
we all agree this is the good one. Um, this
is allegedly the good one, depending on where you live
and what time of year it is. So I support
um the national policy uh benefiting me individually and like this,
(12:55):
Um yeah, it's I don't know. I don't even have
like strong feelings about daylight savings. I don't I know
that like it bothers people twice a year, um, for
like a day. It's just unnecessary. And I do resent
losing um an hour of daylight when your days are
naturally getting shorter, and for a lot of people that
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work all day, that is really detrimental to their mental health,
UM and productivity. And don't like the sun going down
at four or five PM. I don't get me wrong.
So that's the point. Well, yeah, but now you're gonna
have like you're gonna have kids, a lot of kids
like going to school, like when it's like dark for
two hours. Yeah, them their kids. It gives a ship. Interesting, Yeah,
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that's my attitude. Well, I mean the solution is just
like have school start later, which is if the sun
goes down earlier, that kids don't go to school. Now anyway,
it's less heat though, less heat, less air conditioning needed,
more breezy, So there's a positive there. Wait, what I
was saying, If the sun goes down earlier in the
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day and you don't, then it gets cooler earlier in
the day, and then you're sure. But that has nothing
to do with how we quantify time and standard No,
but I was I was like one of the few
people was like, oh, no, the sun is going to
be out later, which means it's going to be hotter
in my home. It should never be dark before seven pm.
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And whatever violence we have to do on an international
scale to ensure that this is the way everyone lives
is worth it. M that's my Robert. I agree with you,
maybe not completely, but I agree with you. Um okay, fine, uh.
I guess I'm alone in my principles of not caring.
But that's just the way it is. So speaking of
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you know, San Diego, here's the sponsors of the show,
which are the San Diego real estate industry. San Diego,
apparently you can't get a house here. Now together, you're back,
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and uh, let's talk about no fly zones. Do you
guys want to discuss this. We're done praising the Senate
for taking the time to pass by partisan Honestly, it's
a little bit like if you've ever had a friend
who's like you care about them, but their alcoholism is
leading them to risk other people's lives by constantly driving drunk,
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and like one time they take a cab home instead
of like driving hammered home from a party, and you're like, well,
I'm glad they did that, but also clearly this they're
going to drive drunk again, like the problem has not
been So that's how that's how I feel about the
Senate passing this, where it's like, yeah, well, I'm glad
you guys decided to do one thing, but I feel
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like you're going to hit four kids crossing an intersection
because you get drunk at eleven thirty in the morning. Yeah,
So I my feeling very similar. I feel oh good
that I mean to me, it's a thing that I
would I think is good and would like to see happen,
but also that that's the thing we're doing. What where
you can agree on this is where we come together.
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Ship is usually like let's give the military hunter billions
more dollars or something like that. Um I do. I
will say, I do resent the fact that if you're
so like you're get you're getting your day like savings.
Now right, we're not changing the clocks anymore. I think
that is kind of an insult to everybody who had
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to change their clocks before. Now that's right, really, so
we should keep it going because other people had to before. Now,
so we here's change it. Here's the rule, Cody. I
think anyone under eighteen after we make the change never
allowed to eat oranges. Okay, well, and I think that
we need to also talk about we're not allowed to
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um to talk about how we used to eat oranges
or um that there was ever a different time zone,
because I think that might make people feel bad in
some way, you know, and we don't want anybody feel
bad about that. I do want them to feel bad.
I want to be filled with eternal rage at us
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for the fact that we get oranges. I want to
just like sit on my front porch as children go
by in school buses eating oranges and mocking them. Um.
But you know, this is the beauty of democracy. We
can have different opinions on these things. I also have
to I'm sorry. The bill, the actual bill is called
the Sunshine Protection Act, which sounds like an environmental bill,
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like it sounds like something about energy and like preservation
or something. It's very like. I mean, I don't think
they did it to like trick people, but it's just
because that wouldn't get passed. But no, it's a funny name.
So I don't know. I want to talk about like
no fly zones, yeah, just and like part of it.
I don't know. So what what what you have happening
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with Ukraine? It's the thing that happens with everything. And
folks have been making this point for for week since
the war started, that like all these people who were
virology experts you know, a couple of months ago, are
now experts on Ukrainian politics or experts on like NATO
or whatever. Um. And yes, that's absolutely happening, and it's
very frustrating. And there's nothing that I hate more than
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like fucking dilettant journalists who just kind of slide into
whatever the thing is. Like I started reporting on Ukraine
in two thousand thirteen, Um, I have not been doing
it constantly, and that's part of why I've mostly just
been signal boosting other people's work and and not been
kind of trying to make pronouncements about stuff. And it
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very much frustrates me to see the same people who
are like coming out with half formed bullshit about COVID
restrictions based on their experience being the son of a
publishing magnate or whatever the fuck um, are now talking
shit about like what should be done in Ukraine. And
it's it's frustrating, like comprehensively um, because there's on one hand,
you have these people like there was this fucking post
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going around like it was iced tea or ice cube whatever,
whatever ice is. The is the one who's most on
Twitter who was like, you know, if one Russian soldier
shoots one US soldier, that's it, We're gonna have a
nuclear war, which is a stupid take because guess what,
Russian soldiers and US soldiers have shot each other a
bunch of times in the recent past, as have soldiers
from multiple other nuclear powers. It happens constantly. It happens
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between Pakistan and India, it happens between India and China,
it happens between Russia and the United States, and nobody
starts firing nukes over some fucking yea who's and whatever
chunk of the world is shooting at each other because
that would be bad for all of the people who
are in charge of those countries. So number one, like
you have these people who who's like opinions on geopolitical
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conflicts are heavily based and like the as they have
remember from movies and assume our actual realities rather than
like the US killed three Russian soldiers a couple of
years ago with air strikes in Syria, and you know what,
it didn't make the news in most places. Nobody fucking cared,
Like nobody gave a shit because that's pretty normal. Um.
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And so on the other end of things, you have
all these like kind of lib folks who are making
these very clear statements about like a no fly zone
you know, would be fine for this reason or fine
for that reason, and you know, sometimes we have to
risk nuclear war for this and for that, And it's
it's one of those like I'm not even I'm not
even because I I have I've talked to a lot
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of people who are alive because of no fly zones
and other parts of the world. So I'm certainly not
like against the very concept of a no fly zone,
but I think there's a number of reasons why it's
it's not going to be particularly effective in Ukraine, Like
even if you kind of divorce the nuclear aspect, which
is a major area which is concerned um, but even
without that, even if, like even if if Putin said tomorrow, hey,
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you know what, no nukes, Like whatever happens, nobody's nobody's
using nukes over this if he were to like, which
you never would, but like if you were to say that,
I don't think that instituting a no fly zone would
have a massive impact on the amount of civilian suffering
because most of the killing of civilians, based on what
I am seeing and what I am reading from other analysts,
is being done by field artillery, which is not and
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by like ballistic missiles and stuff, which I don't see.
I don't think there's any real way that a no
fly zone is going to like stop or reduce the
amount of ballistic missiles. There's different ways it could be like,
one of the issues is that when people talk about
a no fly zone pro or negative, they are usually
assuming that it is more of like a single fixed thing,
when there are a variety of ways in which it
could be instituted. It's like, one of the questions is, like,
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all right, if you believe that we should have a
no fly zone, should we just be stopping aircraft? Or
you try talking about stopping ballistic missiles from entering Ukrainian airspace.
If that is the case, how are you going to
do that without like actually moving in anti missile defenses
all throughout these areas where like they're bordered by Belarus
and Russia, because most of the ballistic missiles being shot
into the country are being shot in across those national borders.
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And unless you're moving, you're either moving in like mobile
anti missile units that are like run by NATO troops,
which is a real big escalation, or you're gonna say,
like we're we're gonna let them fire missiles in, but
we're just gonna stop aircraft, which is again not dealing
with much of the problem. I don't tend to think
that a no fly zone is going to do much.
I get why Zelinsky, and someone in Zelinsky's position would
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be like advocating for it. I certainly don't blame him
for it. He's in a pretty impossible fucking position. I
just don't think it would do anything. I think, at
least on um Our end of things here. I think
there was a moment on social media where it looked
like they were not getting very good much traction. Ukraine
was surprisingly holding people back, and then everyone was like,
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we have to protect the skies. Like it felt to
me like a very reactive thing in the moment that
people kind of latched onto it was part of this conversation.
But like, there's just so much Russia just has so
many people on the ground. People want simple answers, and
people on like every side's on every like ideological side
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of this. Once once simple answers want to boil things
down um to make like the problems and the solutions
seem simple um, and they just aren't. This is a
very complicated, messy war UM. And I think that if
you're if you're someone who is saying that, like I
support the USE, I support the United States, NATO, the EU,
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whatever sending military aid, I think a strong case can
be made that the aid that's already going there is
the most effective way to do that without actually sending
in ground troops directly to fight. Um. Like, I don't
think there's other than you know. I think there's a
case to be made about like this. There's this issue
going on right now with like trying to get Poland's
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MiGs and trying to get more fighter jets to Ukraine.
You can talk about like ways to increase so called
lethal aid, you know, sending weapons over UM. I think
a strong case can be made that if if your
concern is allowing the Ukrainian military to more effectively fight
the Russian military, that stuff matters quite a bit. I
don't think a no fly zone, UM. I think the
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main thing that it would do is it would it
would necessitate the moving of NATO and US troops closer
into a conflict where they would be more likely to
get in fights, you know, where they would be more
likely to get directly involved, which is messy for a
bunch of very obvious reasons. UM. I also think a
strong case can be made that, like just sending in
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weapons is working relatively well um, and that there's really
there there. I don't see a I don't see any
simple ways NATO, the United States, the EU, whatever could
significantly reduce civilian suffering outside of the potential of negotiating
actual corridors through which civilians could flee, which Russia has
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a at this point fucking fifteen year history of like
setting up civilian corridors and then bombing them. I mean,
when that just throughout this as it's been evolving over
the last few weeks, every time it's like a piece
talk and then putin agrees to this and not target
civilians and then immediately target civilians or like the corridor,
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I was like, we have any more news that day?
I was like, yeah, people are posting this, that's cool.
I doubt it's going to happen, And of course it
immediately didn't happen. Um, I have a question, sure, because
I mean, I am one of these people. I'm trying
my best to not weigh in on things that I
shouldn't weigh in on, and I'm doing my best to
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read everything and listen to things and learn right during
this time, and and some of what's happening, and like
the headlines at least as filtered through American media, which
is of course sensationalist um makes it feel like Putin's
just really pushing it, trying, almost almost tempting it, you know,
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sing bombing near borders, saying uh sanctions are tantamount to
war as well, you know, like it feels a little
bit like he's laying the groundwork for something bigger if
sometimes but is that like a very reactionary thing to say,
because like at this point, it kind of feels like
for him, digging in deeper is the only way out,
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because like this is it bad for him? This He's
very much in that situation where like the only way
out for him is through. But at the same but
so like if America gets involved, all of a sudden,
he's got a narrative that's bigger than him and plays
into like nationalism and whatnot. I don't know, well, no,
I don't think that's really I don't think there's any like,
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I don't think there's any more the United States could
be involved that he could actually make any use of
from like a propaganda standard, because at number one, if
you're paying attention to like what is being said in
the Russian media, there's really no way to escalate kind
of what they're saying I don't think Putin wants a
nuclear work because he's not a crazy person. He's he's
doing what dictators do. He's gambling, um, and he's gambling.
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He was, he was gambling at the start of this.
I think that it would be over in like three
or four days. Um. He would effectively double the GDP
of Russia, which taking Ukraine would have more or less
done if it had been taken like intact, and you
know that would have set up he could have got something.
He could have made some more moves in Georgia or Moldova, like,
he would have had a bunch of options because he
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would have just done this thing and gotten away with it.
And now he's bogged down into this fucking nightmare that
is not going great for him. Um, I don't. I
think one of the frustrating things is that I think
there's a there's a long series of conversations that Cannon
ought to be had about like, all right, well this
ship started in two thousand fourteen. What could several US
presidential administrations have done to have made this outcome less likely? Um?
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And what could several US presidential administrations have done in
Syria to have made this outcome less likely. But at
the moment that we are in right now, I don't
see a tremendous amount of things to be done other
than like the war is gonna go the way the
war is going to go, like because sending in the
US ground troops, sending in NATO not really an option
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and and to its credit, like I've seen a bunch
of ship on the left about how like Biden's clearly
trying to like set up for no flies on. I
don't think the Biden administration is any fucking desire to
do that. Um, he's not. They're not making moves to
do that like they're they've been like shipping on the
Polish attempts to like get mid twenty nine into Ukraine
like they've they've they He has been pretty cautious about this,
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And you can think that's good or bad or neutral.
I'm not really making a value judgment either way. It's
a pretty messy situation. And of the US presidents who
have things to blame in Ukraine, I think he's kind
of low on the list because Obama had two years,
Trump had four. Uh, Biden had about a year of
this going on before, like it blew up. So it's
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it's a man um, but it's it's a lot of
people's messages. Yeah, and I don't have I'm not sitting
here criticizing by it and either, like I I think
it's a really tough situation. Not trying to defend him either,
because I don't think he's doing well. I just think like, yeah, man,
I don't know what you do. Also, I also kind
of feel like time will tell if this is the
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right course of action, if this was the right Like,
who fucking knows what happens, what are the fallout the
long term ramifications of Putin succeeding and taking Ukraine and
what he does next or what happens, and and you know,
like I don't know. Yeah, but for right now, you
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have to do your best possible calculation with you with
the information that you have, and protect as many lives
as possible. Um. I've heard people like journalists on podcasts
saying like, well, for now, that's his decision, and like
at a certain point that crisis might get humanitarian crisis
might get so big that that he decides to it.
But I see little reason to see that right now,
(30:04):
because it's like how it's versus the whole world, like
getting the whole world involved. Yeah, I I don't, I don't.
I mean number one, it's also like not I think
there was a real question if like they had taken
Ukraine quickly and then Russia had started making other belligerent
moves towards other nations that are on their border of like,
(30:26):
oh god, how bad could this get? But at this point,
so the the the soldiers, the the armed forces that
Russia arrayed on the Ukrainian border prior to the start
of the war, where about seventy five percent of their
standing active duty military right their actual capacity to to
project military power, but was on the Ukrainian border between
(30:48):
six and ten. Most credible estimates are six to eight
percent of that is dead like of of their of
their like total standing kind of like like professional mility
terry force, which is Titanic casualties, they wouldn't be able
to move on to another invasion. Yeah, there's not. I
I actually the shock waves of this politically, diplomatically and
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and and indeed militarily and humanitarian matters, like in a
number of ways, you're going to be going on for
the rest of our lives. But in terms of like
the ability of this war to expand Russia doesn't have
a lot of bandwidth right now. Um, and they are
one of I mean a number of things are happening.
One of one of the things that's going to be
have an impact on this it's kind of an impact
on a bunch of stuff is that um COVID surging
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rates have shut down Shenzen, which is what makes most
of like the significant chunk of microchips, which, in addition
to being necessary for your bitcoin mining rigs and your
gaming pieces, are also really necessary for modern military equipment.
And Russia burnt through particularly a lot of the very best,
most advanced Russian military equipment was blown up in the
(31:57):
first like four days of this war. A significant percentage
of their ship blown up or abandoned, tracted away by farmers, whatever.
And not only economically, is it going to be difficult
to replace a lot of that stuff you know they have,
They have essentially endless amounts of like BMPs, these shitty
armored personal character carriers. They got a lot of like
T seventy twos and whatnot. But when you're talking about
like advanced SAM systems, high grade like modern artillery MLR s,
(32:20):
systems which are these like multiple rocket launcher systems. Those
are require things in order to make more of them
that number one Russia is going to have trouble affording.
And number two, the the global bandwidth to produce the
things that are necessary to make that has changed in
a really significant way very soon, like very recently. Um
how long has China? But I know that they're back
(32:43):
in a full blown outbreak right now. I'm wondering if
it's going to be like a month thing like here. Um,
I don't know that nobody who knows, right, who knows?
I'm just saying my thoughts out loud. Yeah, Um, I
don't know. It's it's I'm trying not to like come
down too much on one side of the other, other
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than stating, I don't really see how a no fly
zone would materially change the circumstances of this war in
a way that would be worth the risk. Um, I'm
not against. I don't know. It's messy, Like a bunch
of weird things are gonna happen in the aftermath of
this war, including the fact that like an awful lot
of military grade anti aircraft weaponry is just like around
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now in a lot of weird hands in a way
that has never been the case, um, and that could
have some impacts. There's there could be a really negative
weapons anywhere is going to have well effects that you
don't well and a part of the insurgency that's inevitably
going to happen, you know, I mean, provided well, it's
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just like some of it is like yeah, we're shipping
stingers and manet like man pads and ship in there
and like who knows what will happen with all of those,
But also like a bunch of twenty million dollar Russian
anti aircraft batteries are just like random people have them,
and like there's a lot, Like there's a lot that
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hasn't happened before, Like nobody has ever dealt with this.
We've certainly had the situation of like oh yeah, with
the Mujahideen and Afghanistan, Like yeah, some people were just
like like a bunch of fucking anti aircraft rocket launchers
that were man portable wound up in the hands of
some sketchy people and like that was there. There were
some like consequences to that no one's ever had. Like
(34:31):
the wee, now this this system that can shoot down aircraft.
It's seventy thousand feet or whatever. That caught that only
Nation States can afford is just owned by some guy
named Igor in a forest. So, like, what's gonna happen
with that fill in the blank. Who knows? Anyone's guess.
(34:52):
I'm sure it'll be fine. Yeah, boy, you know what,
I like brakes together everything, So don't go back. I
don't know. Okay, they got a break, but we didn't
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get a break. There's no time for breaks. Dive right in, Cody,
what's thirty seconds? What's your solution to Ukraine? Stop it? Okay? Good,
good answer, Yeah, thank you, we nailed it. Welcome the
easy answers. Yeah, it's called the fourth second answer to
the thirty second question. Well, that's gonna do it for
(35:38):
us here, Ye, problems came back from break for one bit?
What else you gonna doh? That my new my new
my Google alert for the world, and the news tab
just came up of Vladimir Putin responds to Cody's statement,
what do you say I get? Yeah? No, he said, okay, though, okay, okay, yeah,
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it's stream these episodes live to him. Yeah, piped right
into Russia. They don't they don't let anything on air
but through but but us for some reason for sure
immediately responded to me, and yet has yet to respond
to Elon Musk's challenge to physically fight him. There's, my god,
(36:24):
there's something I want. It's one of those things I
don't I don't care who would win. I just want
to see it. Let's yes, let's have it happened. Embarrassing,
it's pretty so unbelievably embarrassing and kills me that so
many people drive his fucking cars. It's I know that
they're good for the world and that's great and stuff,
(36:46):
but you know, they all know who he is different one.
They all there's lots of electric cars. I'm not gonna
hate you, but like I'm not going to date you.
It's I got a buddy right now who is like
he's essentially retired because he's um um got disabled in
the military and stuff, and he just like I took
(37:07):
a got a ride to Odessa to help with like
the flow of orphans that are being created as a
result of this war. And like Elon Musk twenty million
bucks a rounding era for him send a bunch of
people into like help get LGBT people out to help
deal with the with orphans, help get civilians out, and
don't tell anybody it'll come out six months later. It'll
(37:28):
come out because it's not gonna work. That was gonna
if it comes out later that he like. So here's
the thing. I I wanted to bring it up. Anyway
when we started, Elon Musk, has anybody received any word
on how starlink is faring? Because if you recall, I mean,
(37:50):
I don't know if I've mentioned him the show what
show are in my dreams? But um, my parents tried
getting starlink because they live in an area without good
uh Internet, and they couldn't use it because there are
trees around. So if there is like you're going to
have not trees a tree. If there's a tree, it
(38:11):
will disrupt service easily for people. So I feel like
that might be a problem. Also, the last I checked,
people have to have terminals on the ground and those
are like six Did he distribute terminals to people so
that they could access the starlink stuff? You know what
I mean? Like, I am very curious, has to because
everybody was sharing that and saying this is a you
know what this Elon Musk, you might have your thoughts
(38:32):
on Elon Musk, but this is pretty cool. And I said,
maybe is it you know anyway? Is it? Is it right?
I mean, it's definitely a pr thing. It's a pr thing.
Also like he's not clearly not taking it seriously anyway. Um.
And it's like, you know, posting memes about how people
(38:56):
whose support Ukraine or like yeah, however, how being horrified
at seeing another set of cities carpet bombed into powder
is like bandwagoning as opposed to two and a half
million refugees have been created in less than three weeks.
What a fucking nightmare? Um, which is like what most
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people are doing. Most people's reaction to Ukraine, you know,
the takes on Twitter are fifty fifty, but most people's
reactions just like, oh god, this looks awful because it is.
And that's like a reasonable way to look at a war. No,
not really, He's rich, um yeah, because it's it's he. Never.
(39:40):
I mean, if there was anybody that I I think
might be an alien and human skin, it's him or
these two people I saw on a walk yesterday. Nothing
wrong with they were cute, No, no, they were sweet.
They just spoke to me a little. So. I mean,
you know, there's cool ship going on. There's stories coming
(40:02):
out of the UK right now that one Russian oligarch's
mansion has been occupied by a bunch of anarchists who
intend to I mean, last I heard the cops were
lining up outside. I'm not sure if, but but kind
of forcing the police to either let them do it
or defend an oligarch's property is a pretty neat move.
Was there a story out of France or something like?
They haven't verified that one, so I don't know what
(40:23):
the state, but it Yeah, I like the idea of
people occupying. I mean we'll start, well, they all start
using some of those properties for refugees, Yeah, to host refugees.
That's a great idea. Again, I think other kinds of
oligarchs we could take their houses too, But if it
starts with Russian oligarchs, that's fine to me. It's all
got to start somewhere. Um, yeah, so that would be neat.
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You guys want to talk about Missouri. It's part of
the world, it is, and it is a part of
this terrible year. Weren't. As someone who was born in St. Louis,
I certainly wish it weren't the world. Yeah, Missouri is
going to pass this law that bands um abortions of
(41:13):
actopic pregnancies. Um an Ectopic pregnancy takes place out of
when the seed is implanted outside of the uterus. It
is not viable. Um it you cannot carry a child
to term and have it survived. It will kill the woman.
It will kill the mother, and it Oh I mean
(41:35):
how I don't. I don't, I don't. I do not
understand the rationale and the thinking behind thinking that this is. Um,
I don't understand the logic. It's just facts of what
this is. Like there's no life being saved here, You're
you're killing people. Yeah, it's yeah, well I mean it's
(41:58):
because this is I mean, ultimately, they just want to
uh you know, we all know what they want to do. Ultimately. UM.
I mean, is there anyway this is you know, where
you're like doing doing something that's like completely unreasonable. And
I feel like this has to get struck down. I'm
sure it will, Like it's like it's it's ludicrous. Um.
(42:20):
But it's the kind of thing that like, okay, well
we won't you know, I don't know, just making like
crafting the and pushing these like very uh awful bills
and then when they're struck down be like, okay, well
we'll do we'll do it, and it might be some
(42:40):
quote reasonable and then they get what they actually want, right,
it might be some sort of move like that for sure,
but it's just um oh, it's just really hard to
see not to be some white feminist because there's lots
of harder things that not harder. Gosh here I am
checking choosing my words very carefully, but it is hard
to watch um them ship away at this and know
(43:02):
what's coming and know that ultimately, like in a few
months they are almost certainly about to overturn Row and
it's like a slow motion car crash happening, and so like, yeah, okay,
maybe this, but it's still fucking offensive, um and scary.
And then also what it doesn't designed to Like when
it doesn't pass, you're like, well, at least that didn't happen.
(43:25):
Yeah no, fuck, that's like dant amount to murder of
a person that's of a mom that could go and
have an actual pregnancy, that could is already probably heartbroken
that she can't carry a child to turn because also
guess what a lot of most people. It's not like
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women don't are aborting babies left and right. The decision
to not have a child is deeply personal and very
difficult for most any who. That's my little soapbox. Um,
so yeah, maybe it's something that we don't but I
will think we deserve to be angry about it, even
if I don't think that it will ultimately stand, and
(44:05):
we should continue to be We're gonna just be seeing
this continuing on and on a lot like trans rights
and the different bills aimed at targeting and trans use.
We're just gonna keep seeing it. We're gonna keep seeing this.
These are the things that they can do and chip
away and chip away and change subtly change public perceptions.
(44:29):
I've had so many conversations I want this one person.
I won't even give more information, just saying like, well, yeah,
but it is a big deal if it's a gender
affirming surgery. Want not to completely pivot this whole conversation
gender affirming surgery at a young age. And I'm like,
you are accidentally talking sharing a right wing talking point,
(44:50):
you know, like you are accidentally buying into this narrative,
And that's how it happens, even if people don't even
know what's happening, they're like, well, maybe this points like no,
it's not it's not valid here. I can't even remember
if I brought this up in another podcast. I talked
about it a lot when you like look at when
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you when you read kind of like actual scholarly analyzes
about the early years the Third Reich was in power.
One of the things you come across a lot is
this like problem they had where in order to get
into power, they had to make a lot of like
really bug fuck claims to get like number one, to
get people riled up, to like uh, set kind of
some of the ideological stages and like create this sort
(45:35):
of zero sum game. There's a lot of like different
promises they made and like things they would talk about
ideologically that once they were in power, no one had
any idea how to translate into policy because it was
just nuts. And so a big chunk of their early
years was like finding out how to actually like what
the policy versions of all of these crazy promises were
looked like. And we get a lot of the things
(45:56):
that were like most fucked up and horrible and weird
from the Third Reich out of this peer it and
what you're seeing in these states where the GOP has
effectively demolished any kind of opposition to Republican policy is
number one. All these like bug funk things they say
to go viral, they have to figure out, like, well,
(46:16):
what does the law version of this look like? And
the other thing going on is that like, well, we've
already effectively banned abortion. So if you're a Republican congress
person or if you're running for office or you want
to like get re election or whatever, you're trying to
keep your name in the news as Republican policymaker. There's
nothing really more to do there except crazy shit. So
that you can say you're still you're you're fighting for
(46:38):
the pro life thing even though there's nothing more to
fight for in Texas, and that in the in the
state you're in, because you've effectively banned it, you have
to keep doing things to keep the donations and ship coming.
So you said, well, now we're banning a topic pregnancies,
and like that, that's that's why this is happening, yeah,
Or like the CRT stuff where it's like railiance that
for a year and then sudden He's like, well, now
you can't teach about Martin Luther King Jr. Like there's
(47:01):
just all this stuff. Like well, on a policy level,
once you actually decide what it is, it's ridiculous and unworkable.
And that's I mean also with trans rights and all
the again exactly, it's all, it's all part of it.
These are the new thing goalposts, and they'll just keep
finding something else. One of the things that I think
is funny out of all this is that like Beto
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O Rourke, who is hopelessly running for governor again, like
looked at the political situation in Texas and was like,
all right, well, the thing that I have to compromise
with the right on and when when real or in
order to have a chance at election is critical race theory.
I'm gonna keep saying I'm gonna take everyone in Texas
his guns. That's that's fine. I think I can win
making that claim. CRT is where to make the compromise?
(47:46):
What is how is he compromising on CRT um He
made a statement that like he doesn't believe critical race
theory should be taught in schools or some ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Oh my god. It's just like what the fuck are
you doing? Well, because it isn't because it isn't taught
in schools, you know, but like it's really gross, Okay,
(48:10):
I yeah. He was asked like I'm sure it's one
of those things where like he made a statement that's
not nearly as he's clear is not a good communicator,
which he was to support critical race theory, and I
think he said no, he said he doesn't think CRT
should be taught in schools, because what he's trying to
do is say like, well, CRT is like this law
(48:33):
term that they teach law schools, and I don't think
they should be taught in schools because and it's not.
I think are probably on the same page as well.
We don't see CRT being taught in our schools right now.
It is a course that is taught in law schools.
I don't think CRT should be taught in our schools.
That's just help. That's so he's so bad at this.
The right answer, like the right thing is like, it's
(48:54):
not you're lying to people. It's not you're lying to people,
and it's fine to teach the history of racism in
our nation. His response is like, let's give them. Let's
let's let's respond to this in a way that like
makes the obvious sound bite, because I don't think he
gets I don't know, he's he's not. He's not. He's
not going to be the governor of Texas. You know,
he's not. That's fine, he's not going to be the
(49:16):
governor of Texas. He's it's it's just not going to happen.
A different kind of person is necessary. I'm looking at
it now. That is a really bad response because it's
just like giving people in the easy Yeah, I mean,
it's gotta I'm sure. I don't know if listeners are
super aware of Christopher Ruffo, but he's this like, uh,
(49:39):
you know, you know, he's like he'd have been stabbed,
admitting that he's conflating everything with everything else in order
to make it confusing. And then you ban everything that's
his whole whole things out there. But now you have
him tweeting Beato. Rourke becomes the first prominent Democrat to
flip against critical race there. Yeah, yeah, well that's not
(50:00):
what happens. It's not what it is at this Yeah,
I don't know that's going to be the episode for us. Yeah,
it is isn't it feels right? I want to pick
yourself up a little. Imagine Christopher Ruffo getting stabbed by
Dustin Hoffman dressed as a pirate. Yeah, that's nice. Or
(50:20):
um um being a dolphin saving people and hiding them
in underground sea caves. Being a dolphin like me stabbing
Christopher Ruffo lookie and then giving giving a high five. Today.
I once saw the real actual Rufio at yogurt Land.
That's good, and I'm sorry, but it's just so much
(50:42):
like the colorful food that they throw at each other
that it's that. I was like, this is gonna be
amazing that I did not throw it at him. I
wanted to. Should you guys know that? When they were
making Hook, one of my favorite movies, perfect films, so good.
Um at the actor who played Shmi, who was also
(51:02):
the main character and who framed Roger Rabbit, which blew
my mind. Ye Hoskins, Yeah, he and Dustin Hoffman who
played Hook, decided to play their characters as if they
were longtime gay romantic partners. They just didn't want to
say it, but like that's how we're actually going to
play it, Like that's it's perfect. Well, I'm you watching
(51:25):
that tonight. It's so good, awesome. Yeah, it's film incredible
rescue throw. Yeah. We really dovetailed this episode with some
uh hot hot pop. There we go, Bookeen did it?
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sure is from what I heard, legally distinct from a
TV show. The pods are out. I mean they're they're
legally distinct, sure, but also technically very distinct in and
of itself, in that it's an audio medium and not
visual at all. I love it. I love audio meetings mediums.
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I love mediums. I like just going and talking to
mediums and I do too. Yeah, talk about past lives
and things like that. Past lives also, it's a good um, guys,
I have. If we're talking past lives, everyone's gonna kill
me online. But yes, I have talked to a psychic
who told me we can cut it out. You can.
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There's some Cody already knows this or you should. Was
that I saved a lot of Jewish people in World
War two. I like, say, I hid people and like
my basement, and I was like, yeah, that checks out.
But then, um, the psychic also told me that I
was a dolphin and I died really violently and that's
(01:32):
why I have an aversion to water, and I do have.
I am a little afraid of the ocean, but don't
all dolphins die in the ocean. I am choosing to
believe that your past life was a dolphin who helped
rescue Jewish people. I think I think that that's a
story worth telling. And please everybody on Reddit especially, keep
(01:55):
your opinions about me on going to see a fucking
psychic who gives a shoe yourself like motherfucking funny fun diversion.
Sometimes it's it's it's fine, it's and jokes on you
when you come back as an aunt. Motherfucker. Okay, and
that also saves people during some sort of genocideide sort
(02:20):
of genocide. The Schindler Oscar Schindler of ants. Yeah, you know,
I save much more munch of money for not going
to a psychic. This one actually is a sliding scale
that you pay afterwards. So so if you didn't like
what they said, she just really wanted it to be
affordable for whomever wanted her services. So and you don't
(02:43):
pay till afterwards. I was poor. If she tells you
your past life was Heinrich Hindler, you can be like, well,
I'm not paying for this out, You're not taking my money, Cody.
She also said that you're my twin, So that's cool
that it's true. Honestly, there's a lot going on here
that is worth unpacking, but not for this show. There is,
(03:07):
you know what is worth unpacking. I watched a TV
show that I liked pretty good recently, were it Advice Community?
Now I do that a lot, but no, the animated well,
actually this is does tie into that because the animated
Harley Quinn series, which I'm not a particular fan of
any of those comics, but one of the carry they have,
(03:27):
the Riddler, is played by Jim Rash, who does the
Dean Community, and they have have the Riddler be patterned
off of the Dean from Community. It's very fun. It's good.
It's good. It's a good call. Yeah. Um, he makes
such a funny Riddler. Oh he would, he would be
the perfect Riddle size that he didn't wear a Riddler
(03:48):
costume on Community at one point it's it's he's It's
it's pretty good. It's a pretty good show. I enjoyed
it a lot. If you enjoy Jim Rash and his
antics and superhero love, Jim Rash, the Oscar winning writer
Jim Right, check out sky High if you're familiar with
the movie, Scott, I've never seen that before and I
(04:09):
have not seen it. It's a so it's a it's
a superhero thing for like ten years ago, fifteen years ago,
and it's a sidekick heroes school. It's like a high school.
Uh yeah, this sounds right up my alley. Yeah. Like
two of the kids in the holler in it. Um.
Bruce Campbell is in it. Bruce Campbell and Jim Rash together,
(04:29):
Jim Rash and he really oh Russell, Kurt Russell, Kurt Russell,
Jim Rash and Bruce Campbell are in a thing together.
Oh my god, Oh my god. Also, if you're a
fan of Succession, Greg from Succession is also in it.
Get Out. How long ago was this man? I want
to say, like years ago. So he was like a kid,
(04:54):
Yeah he was, No, he was not yet New York's
most Eligi. No, I like it was. I've watched two
shows recently another so another if you watched the Expanse
Vampire Diaries. Know, if you watched the Expanse, the main
guy on the Expanse what's his name? But I've never
watched Thank you all all you expansies and Expanse heads
(05:19):
out there. Um, he I watched the entire first season.
It's like, I know you from something? What are you from?
What is this? What is this? What is the actor from?
But I wouldn't look it up until the final season
or to the end of the season, because I wanted
to give myself a chance. I didn't figure it out.
He's also from sky High. Um, so the Expanse and
Succession too amazing shows with great actors. I mean, I
(05:41):
don't know much about any of that, but the fact
that Jim Rash, Kurt Russell, and Bruce Campbell are an
ething together has completely changed the world for me. Kevin McDonald,
they're all there. Oh, man, Cody, you're making this case.
You're making a strong case, and I'm going to go
watch that for sure. But I bet neither of you
(06:03):
has watched Patriot yet. That's what I bet. I bet
neither of you have watched my recommendation that you're going
to love this is the time, not is that Time
killed the vibe here? Um, I've watched. I mean, I
don't normally watch new stuff, but but I'll try Patriot.
I've got to try Patriot, and I gotta try Peacemaker.
(06:25):
People keep talking about peace. I'm watching Peacemaker, and I
gotta say, so far, it's entertaining. I'm a little too
anxious and um for a lot of too much violence
right now, which is funny that I'm recommending Patriot, you know,
even if. But it's really good. Um, and the intro
is so fucking good. I play it, I rewind it
over and over, and I'm trying to learn the dan
(06:46):
That's all I've seen, trying to learn the dance. It
always hits nice. Well, it seems like we're all having
a good time on TV. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure
the world is doing just as well as I as
part of that transition. Part of my problem with Peacemaker
and TV in general right now is that I can't
get through an episode. Um, I'm feeling wound up. I
(07:08):
check my phone and then I'm reading something. I'm having
a hard time tuning out, so trying desperately in the world, Yeah, Robert,
m hmm. Let me just I'm gonna I'm gonna google
the world, and I'm gonna scroll over to the news
tab and I'm gonna see what's going on. Oh oh wow,
(07:29):
there's there's actually quite a few problems happening, right, Although
this Caribbean destination was just named the best beach in
the world. That's number three. Yeah, that's not so bad,
Is that really? I mean the article about the Ukraine
war stoking food in security is like six down. So
clearly yeah, tricks to help you think like the world's
(07:53):
greatest designers. Yeah, so I think things are doing important
than the best places in the world to retire something
that is good? That is it that our priorities are
really locked locked in? Um? Cool? Cool? I think we
figured it all out. That's the episode where do we
want to start at the end by everybody? So, did
(08:18):
you guys know that now San Diego is ranking as
the least affordable city to buy a house over San Francisco? Wow?
Really that changed quick? Also San Diego like close behind.
I don't know, it was never in the top in
my head at least, so I would think that maybe
(08:38):
during the pandemic. Um, so I went when the fires
were really bad here, I mean again, during the pandemic
it's ongoing. Um, but the that lockdown here, I'll start saying, um,
when the fires were really bad, I went to San Diego,
I went to college in San Diego. So I went
there for the weekend to like escape some of the
smoke because you couldn't go outside. Um in l A.
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And the hotel was filled with people from San Francisco.
So maybe there's something about them like wanting to stay
in California, but like being fed up. I mean, it's interesting.
Obviously this is anecdotal, Like all people who live in California.
I thought slightly more often about San Diego than I
do about did about Sacramento, and I never thought about sacraments. Look,
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I gotta tell you that I do not recommend moving
to San Diego. I lived in San Diego. Is very
depressed in San Diego. Um, I dropped out of school
for a little bit and had to like muscle build
up the courage to go back because I hated living
in San Diego. Yeah, I mean it's everyone calls America's
hell basket, but it's yeah, it's just attracts all these
I'm sorry if you're from there's lots of lovely people
(09:46):
in the horrible place. It's there's there's no there's really
no one good. They're much like Russia, not a good person.
Like the violent protests in Portland and like San Diego,
so fucking violent, scumming villainy. The film surges above the waterline, beautile, tallantiful,
(10:12):
but you guys, taco wonderful Mexican food, and it is
it is beautiful. It's just very nice people that I
don't want to hang out with. I just felt lonely
and isolated and like I couldn't find friends because there
was either like rich conservatives or a bunch of very
drunk frat boys. It was like, speaking of well, it
sounds like college your experience, It's like it's not San Diego.
(10:36):
It's like, oh, you just didn't like well, I didn't
like college in San Diego, and I think that I
would have enjoyed college at Berkeley. But I know I
needed to move to the other end of the state
to get away from my family therapy. It's news time.
I was about to go. This is this is now
the Ship Talking San Diego podcast. I mean, we've covered
(10:58):
my my dicey, my dicey past lives, given back to Mexico.
I had the worst break I had my worst breakup
of my life in San Diego with a drunk frat boy.
See there you go. They're drawn to it, and there's
other people. I just I've been saying for years California
should end it to Mecula and we should have a
(11:19):
thirty mile d m Z where nothing is allowed to live. No,
I feel bad. You can just boil the earth to
keep San Diego away. So we keep Temecula though, because
what is Temecula done well? Temecula has turned into a
giant d m Z where no life is allowed to
thrive in order to protect us from San Diego. You guys,
I just thought my partners from San Diego, all right,
(11:44):
she got a friend and say it's fine. Just throwing
that out there. Honestly, the only problem with San Diego
is you've got to deal with border patrol way more often.
You're gonna want to deal with border patrol. Horrible frat boys,
great tacos like you need to talk about the news. Yeah,
the new we're really nailing it so far. This wee
so earlier today in the news, earlier day in the news. Uh,
(12:08):
bipartisan effort to keep the daylight savings time all year round,
so the Sate. That's amazing. It's amazing the things that
we can agree on questions, daylight savings is what we're
in now. We just we just sprang forward into daylight savings. Yeah.
I believe we are currently in because I just do
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not ever need it to switch back. That's the one. Like,
let's not do this bullshit switch. This is the good one, right,
we all agree this is the good one. Um, this
is allegedly the good one, depending on where you live
and what time of year it is. So I support
um the national policy uh benefiting me individually and like this,
(12:55):
Um yeah, it's I don't know. I don't even have
like strong feelings about daylight savings. I don't I know
that like it bothers people twice a year, um, for
like a day. It's just unnecessary. And I do resent
losing um an hour of daylight when your days are
naturally getting shorter, and for a lot of people that
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work all day, that is really detrimental to their mental health,
UM and productivity. And don't like the sun going down
at four or five PM. I don't get me wrong.
So that's the point. Well, yeah, but now you're gonna
have like you're gonna have kids, a lot of kids
like going to school, like when it's like dark for
two hours. Yeah, them their kids. It gives a ship. Interesting, Yeah,
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that's my attitude. Well, I mean the solution is just
like have school start later, which is if the sun
goes down earlier, that kids don't go to school. Now anyway,
it's less heat though, less heat, less air conditioning needed,
more breezy, So there's a positive there. Wait, what I
was saying, If the sun goes down earlier in the
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day and you don't, then it gets cooler earlier in
the day, and then you're sure. But that has nothing
to do with how we quantify time and standard No,
but I was I was like one of the few
people was like, oh, no, the sun is going to
be out later, which means it's going to be hotter
in my home. It should never be dark before seven pm.
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And whatever violence we have to do on an international
scale to ensure that this is the way everyone lives
is worth it. M that's my Robert. I agree with you,
maybe not completely, but I agree with you. Um okay, fine, uh.
I guess I'm alone in my principles of not caring.
But that's just the way it is. So speaking of
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you know, San Diego, here's the sponsors of the show,
which are the San Diego real estate industry. San Diego,
apparently you can't get a house here. Now together, you're back,
(15:08):
and uh, let's talk about no fly zones. Do you
guys want to discuss this. We're done praising the Senate
for taking the time to pass by partisan Honestly, it's
a little bit like if you've ever had a friend
who's like you care about them, but their alcoholism is
leading them to risk other people's lives by constantly driving drunk,
(15:31):
and like one time they take a cab home instead
of like driving hammered home from a party, and you're like, well,
I'm glad they did that, but also clearly this they're
going to drive drunk again, like the problem has not
been So that's how that's how I feel about the
Senate passing this, where it's like, yeah, well, I'm glad
you guys decided to do one thing, but I feel
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like you're going to hit four kids crossing an intersection
because you get drunk at eleven thirty in the morning. Yeah,
So I my feeling very similar. I feel oh good
that I mean to me, it's a thing that I
would I think is good and would like to see happen,
but also that that's the thing we're doing. What where
you can agree on this is where we come together.
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Ship is usually like let's give the military hunter billions
more dollars or something like that. Um I do. I
will say, I do resent the fact that if you're
so like you're get you're getting your day like savings.
Now right, we're not changing the clocks anymore. I think
that is kind of an insult to everybody who had
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to change their clocks before. Now that's right, really, so
we should keep it going because other people had to before. Now,
so we here's change it. Here's the rule, Cody. I
think anyone under eighteen after we make the change never
allowed to eat oranges. Okay, well, and I think that
we need to also talk about we're not allowed to
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um to talk about how we used to eat oranges
or um that there was ever a different time zone,
because I think that might make people feel bad in
some way, you know, and we don't want anybody feel
bad about that. I do want them to feel bad.
I want to be filled with eternal rage at us
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for the fact that we get oranges. I want to
just like sit on my front porch as children go
by in school buses eating oranges and mocking them. Um.
But you know, this is the beauty of democracy. We
can have different opinions on these things. I also have
to I'm sorry. The bill, the actual bill is called
the Sunshine Protection Act, which sounds like an environmental bill,
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like it sounds like something about energy and like preservation
or something. It's very like. I mean, I don't think
they did it to like trick people, but it's just
because that wouldn't get passed. But no, it's a funny name.
So I don't know. I want to talk about like
no fly zones, yeah, just and like part of it.
I don't know. So what what what you have happening
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with Ukraine? It's the thing that happens with everything. And
folks have been making this point for for week since
the war started, that like all these people who were
virology experts you know, a couple of months ago, are
now experts on Ukrainian politics or experts on like NATO
or whatever. Um. And yes, that's absolutely happening, and it's
very frustrating. And there's nothing that I hate more than
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like fucking dilettant journalists who just kind of slide into
whatever the thing is. Like I started reporting on Ukraine
in two thousand thirteen, Um, I have not been doing
it constantly, and that's part of why I've mostly just
been signal boosting other people's work and and not been
kind of trying to make pronouncements about stuff. And it
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very much frustrates me to see the same people who
are like coming out with half formed bullshit about COVID
restrictions based on their experience being the son of a
publishing magnate or whatever the fuck um, are now talking
shit about like what should be done in Ukraine. And
it's it's frustrating, like comprehensively um, because there's on one hand,
you have these people like there was this fucking post
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going around like it was iced tea or ice cube whatever,
whatever ice is. The is the one who's most on
Twitter who was like, you know, if one Russian soldier
shoots one US soldier, that's it, We're gonna have a
nuclear war, which is a stupid take because guess what,
Russian soldiers and US soldiers have shot each other a
bunch of times in the recent past, as have soldiers
from multiple other nuclear powers. It happens constantly. It happens
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between Pakistan and India, it happens between India and China,
it happens between Russia and the United States, and nobody
starts firing nukes over some fucking yea who's and whatever
chunk of the world is shooting at each other because
that would be bad for all of the people who
are in charge of those countries. So number one, like
you have these people who who's like opinions on geopolitical
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conflicts are heavily based and like the as they have
remember from movies and assume our actual realities rather than
like the US killed three Russian soldiers a couple of
years ago with air strikes in Syria, and you know what,
it didn't make the news in most places. Nobody fucking cared,
Like nobody gave a shit because that's pretty normal. Um.
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And so on the other end of things, you have
all these like kind of lib folks who are making
these very clear statements about like a no fly zone
you know, would be fine for this reason or fine
for that reason, and you know, sometimes we have to
risk nuclear war for this and for that, And it's
it's one of those like I'm not even I'm not
even because I I have I've talked to a lot
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of people who are alive because of no fly zones
and other parts of the world. So I'm certainly not
like against the very concept of a no fly zone,
but I think there's a number of reasons why it's
it's not going to be particularly effective in Ukraine, Like
even if you kind of divorce the nuclear aspect, which
is a major area which is concerned um, but even
without that, even if, like even if if Putin said tomorrow, hey,
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you know what, no nukes, Like whatever happens, nobody's nobody's
using nukes over this if he were to like, which
you never would, but like if you were to say that,
I don't think that instituting a no fly zone would
have a massive impact on the amount of civilian suffering
because most of the killing of civilians, based on what
I am seeing and what I am reading from other analysts,
is being done by field artillery, which is not and
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by like ballistic missiles and stuff, which I don't see.
I don't think there's any real way that a no
fly zone is going to like stop or reduce the
amount of ballistic missiles. There's different ways it could be like,
one of the issues is that when people talk about
a no fly zone pro or negative, they are usually
assuming that it is more of like a single fixed thing,
when there are a variety of ways in which it
could be instituted. It's like, one of the questions is, like,
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all right, if you believe that we should have a
no fly zone, should we just be stopping aircraft? Or
you try talking about stopping ballistic missiles from entering Ukrainian airspace.
If that is the case, how are you going to
do that without like actually moving in anti missile defenses
all throughout these areas where like they're bordered by Belarus
and Russia, because most of the ballistic missiles being shot
into the country are being shot in across those national borders.
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And unless you're moving, you're either moving in like mobile
anti missile units that are like run by NATO troops,
which is a real big escalation, or you're gonna say,
like we're we're gonna let them fire missiles in, but
we're just gonna stop aircraft, which is again not dealing
with much of the problem. I don't tend to think
that a no fly zone is going to do much.
I get why Zelinsky, and someone in Zelinsky's position would
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be like advocating for it. I certainly don't blame him
for it. He's in a pretty impossible fucking position. I
just don't think it would do anything. I think, at
least on um Our end of things here. I think
there was a moment on social media where it looked
like they were not getting very good much traction. Ukraine
was surprisingly holding people back, and then everyone was like,
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we have to protect the skies. Like it felt to
me like a very reactive thing in the moment that
people kind of latched onto it was part of this conversation.
But like, there's just so much Russia just has so
many people on the ground. People want simple answers, and
people on like every side's on every like ideological side
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of this. Once once simple answers want to boil things
down um to make like the problems and the solutions
seem simple um, and they just aren't. This is a
very complicated, messy war UM. And I think that if
you're if you're someone who is saying that, like I
support the USE, I support the United States, NATO, the EU,
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whatever sending military aid, I think a strong case can
be made that the aid that's already going there is
the most effective way to do that without actually sending
in ground troops directly to fight. Um. Like, I don't
think there's other than you know. I think there's a
case to be made about like this. There's this issue
going on right now with like trying to get Poland's
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MiGs and trying to get more fighter jets to Ukraine.
You can talk about like ways to increase so called
lethal aid, you know, sending weapons over UM. I think
a strong case can be made that if if your
concern is allowing the Ukrainian military to more effectively fight
the Russian military, that stuff matters quite a bit. I
don't think a no fly zone, UM. I think the
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main thing that it would do is it would it
would necessitate the moving of NATO and US troops closer
into a conflict where they would be more likely to
get in fights, you know, where they would be more
likely to get directly involved, which is messy for a
bunch of very obvious reasons. UM. I also think a
strong case can be made that, like just sending in
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weapons is working relatively well um, and that there's really
there there. I don't see a I don't see any
simple ways NATO, the United States, the EU, whatever could
significantly reduce civilian suffering outside of the potential of negotiating
actual corridors through which civilians could flee, which Russia has
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a at this point fucking fifteen year history of like
setting up civilian corridors and then bombing them. I mean,
when that just throughout this as it's been evolving over
the last few weeks, every time it's like a piece
talk and then putin agrees to this and not target
civilians and then immediately target civilians or like the corridor,
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I was like, we have any more news that day?
I was like, yeah, people are posting this, that's cool.
I doubt it's going to happen, And of course it
immediately didn't happen. Um, I have a question, sure, because
I mean, I am one of these people. I'm trying
my best to not weigh in on things that I
shouldn't weigh in on, and I'm doing my best to
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read everything and listen to things and learn right during
this time, and and some of what's happening, and like
the headlines at least as filtered through American media, which
is of course sensationalist um makes it feel like Putin's
just really pushing it, trying, almost almost tempting it, you know,
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sing bombing near borders, saying uh sanctions are tantamount to
war as well, you know, like it feels a little
bit like he's laying the groundwork for something bigger if
sometimes but is that like a very reactionary thing to say,
because like at this point, it kind of feels like
for him, digging in deeper is the only way out,
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because like this is it bad for him? This He's
very much in that situation where like the only way
out for him is through. But at the same but
so like if America gets involved, all of a sudden,
he's got a narrative that's bigger than him and plays
into like nationalism and whatnot. I don't know, well, no,
I don't think that's really I don't think there's any like,
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I don't think there's any more the United States could
be involved that he could actually make any use of
from like a propaganda standard, because at number one, if
you're paying attention to like what is being said in
the Russian media, there's really no way to escalate kind
of what they're saying I don't think Putin wants a
nuclear work because he's not a crazy person. He's he's
doing what dictators do. He's gambling, um, and he's gambling.
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He was, he was gambling at the start of this.
I think that it would be over in like three
or four days. Um. He would effectively double the GDP
of Russia, which taking Ukraine would have more or less
done if it had been taken like intact, and you
know that would have set up he could have got something.
He could have made some more moves in Georgia or Moldova, like,
he would have had a bunch of options because he
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would have just done this thing and gotten away with it.
And now he's bogged down into this fucking nightmare that
is not going great for him. Um, I don't. I
think one of the frustrating things is that I think
there's a there's a long series of conversations that Cannon
ought to be had about like, all right, well this
ship started in two thousand fourteen. What could several US
presidential administrations have done to have made this outcome less likely? Um?
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And what could several US presidential administrations have done in
Syria to have made this outcome less likely. But at
the moment that we are in right now, I don't
see a tremendous amount of things to be done other
than like the war is gonna go the way the
war is going to go, like because sending in the
US ground troops, sending in NATO not really an option
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and and to its credit, like I've seen a bunch
of ship on the left about how like Biden's clearly
trying to like set up for no flies on. I
don't think the Biden administration is any fucking desire to
do that. Um, he's not. They're not making moves to
do that like they're they've been like shipping on the
Polish attempts to like get mid twenty nine into Ukraine
like they've they've they He has been pretty cautious about this,
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And you can think that's good or bad or neutral.
I'm not really making a value judgment either way. It's
a pretty messy situation. And of the US presidents who
have things to blame in Ukraine, I think he's kind
of low on the list because Obama had two years,
Trump had four. Uh, Biden had about a year of
this going on before, like it blew up. So it's
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it's a man um, but it's it's a lot of
people's messages. Yeah, and I don't have I'm not sitting
here criticizing by it and either, like I I think
it's a really tough situation. Not trying to defend him either,
because I don't think he's doing well. I just think like, yeah, man,
I don't know what you do. Also, I also kind
of feel like time will tell if this is the
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right course of action, if this was the right Like,
who fucking knows what happens, what are the fallout the
long term ramifications of Putin succeeding and taking Ukraine and
what he does next or what happens, and and you know,
like I don't know. Yeah, but for right now, you
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have to do your best possible calculation with you with
the information that you have, and protect as many lives
as possible. Um. I've heard people like journalists on podcasts
saying like, well, for now, that's his decision, and like
at a certain point that crisis might get humanitarian crisis
might get so big that that he decides to it.
But I see little reason to see that right now,
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because it's like how it's versus the whole world, like
getting the whole world involved. Yeah, I I don't, I don't.
I mean number one, it's also like not I think
there was a real question if like they had taken
Ukraine quickly and then Russia had started making other belligerent
moves towards other nations that are on their border of like,
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oh god, how bad could this get? But at this point,
so the the the soldiers, the the armed forces that
Russia arrayed on the Ukrainian border prior to the start
of the war, where about seventy five percent of their
standing active duty military right their actual capacity to to
project military power, but was on the Ukrainian border between
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six and ten. Most credible estimates are six to eight
percent of that is dead like of of their of
their like total standing kind of like like professional mility
terry force, which is Titanic casualties, they wouldn't be able
to move on to another invasion. Yeah, there's not. I
I actually the shock waves of this politically, diplomatically and
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and and indeed militarily and humanitarian matters, like in a
number of ways, you're going to be going on for
the rest of our lives. But in terms of like
the ability of this war to expand Russia doesn't have
a lot of bandwidth right now. Um, and they are
one of I mean a number of things are happening.
One of one of the things that's going to be
have an impact on this it's kind of an impact
on a bunch of stuff is that um COVID surging
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rates have shut down Shenzen, which is what makes most
of like the significant chunk of microchips, which, in addition
to being necessary for your bitcoin mining rigs and your
gaming pieces, are also really necessary for modern military equipment.
And Russia burnt through particularly a lot of the very best,
most advanced Russian military equipment was blown up in the
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first like four days of this war. A significant percentage
of their ship blown up or abandoned, tracted away by farmers, whatever.
And not only economically, is it going to be difficult
to replace a lot of that stuff you know they have,
They have essentially endless amounts of like BMPs, these shitty
armored personal character carriers. They got a lot of like
T seventy twos and whatnot. But when you're talking about
like advanced SAM systems, high grade like modern artillery MLR s,
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systems which are these like multiple rocket launcher systems. Those
are require things in order to make more of them
that number one Russia is going to have trouble affording.
And number two, the the global bandwidth to produce the
things that are necessary to make that has changed in
a really significant way very soon, like very recently. Um
how long has China? But I know that they're back
(32:43):
in a full blown outbreak right now. I'm wondering if
it's going to be like a month thing like here. Um,
I don't know that nobody who knows, right, who knows?
I'm just saying my thoughts out loud. Yeah, Um, I
don't know. It's it's I'm trying not to like come
down too much on one side of the other, other
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than stating, I don't really see how a no fly
zone would materially change the circumstances of this war in
a way that would be worth the risk. Um, I'm
not against. I don't know. It's messy, Like a bunch
of weird things are gonna happen in the aftermath of
this war, including the fact that like an awful lot
of military grade anti aircraft weaponry is just like around
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now in a lot of weird hands in a way
that has never been the case, um, and that could
have some impacts. There's there could be a really negative
weapons anywhere is going to have well effects that you
don't well and a part of the insurgency that's inevitably
going to happen, you know, I mean, provided well, it's
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just like some of it is like yeah, we're shipping
stingers and manet like man pads and ship in there
and like who knows what will happen with all of those,
But also like a bunch of twenty million dollar Russian
anti aircraft batteries are just like random people have them,
and like there's a lot, Like there's a lot that
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hasn't happened before, Like nobody has ever dealt with this.
We've certainly had the situation of like oh yeah, with
the Mujahideen and Afghanistan, Like yeah, some people were just
like like a bunch of fucking anti aircraft rocket launchers
that were man portable wound up in the hands of
some sketchy people and like that was there. There were
some like consequences to that no one's ever had. Like
(34:31):
the wee, now this this system that can shoot down aircraft.
It's seventy thousand feet or whatever. That caught that only
Nation States can afford is just owned by some guy
named Igor in a forest. So, like, what's gonna happen
with that fill in the blank. Who knows? Anyone's guess.
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I'm sure it'll be fine. Yeah, boy, you know what,
I like brakes together everything, So don't go back. I
don't know. Okay, they got a break, but we didn't
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get a break. There's no time for breaks. Dive right in, Cody,
what's thirty seconds? What's your solution to Ukraine? Stop it? Okay? Good,
good answer, Yeah, thank you, we nailed it. Welcome the
easy answers. Yeah, it's called the fourth second answer to
the thirty second question. Well, that's gonna do it for
(35:38):
us here, Ye, problems came back from break for one bit?
What else you gonna doh? That my new my new
my Google alert for the world, and the news tab
just came up of Vladimir Putin responds to Cody's statement,
what do you say I get? Yeah? No, he said, okay, though, okay, okay, yeah,
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it's stream these episodes live to him. Yeah, piped right
into Russia. They don't they don't let anything on air
but through but but us for some reason for sure
immediately responded to me, and yet has yet to respond
to Elon Musk's challenge to physically fight him. There's, my god,
(36:24):
there's something I want. It's one of those things I
don't I don't care who would win. I just want
to see it. Let's yes, let's have it happened. Embarrassing,
it's pretty so unbelievably embarrassing and kills me that so
many people drive his fucking cars. It's I know that
they're good for the world and that's great and stuff,
(36:46):
but you know, they all know who he is different one.
They all there's lots of electric cars. I'm not gonna
hate you, but like I'm not going to date you.
It's I got a buddy right now who is like
he's essentially retired because he's um um got disabled in
the military and stuff, and he just like I took
(37:07):
a got a ride to Odessa to help with like
the flow of orphans that are being created as a
result of this war. And like Elon Musk twenty million
bucks a rounding era for him send a bunch of
people into like help get LGBT people out to help
deal with the with orphans, help get civilians out, and
don't tell anybody it'll come out six months later. It'll
(37:28):
come out because it's not gonna work. That was gonna
if it comes out later that he like. So here's
the thing. I I wanted to bring it up. Anyway
when we started, Elon Musk, has anybody received any word
on how starlink is faring? Because if you recall, I mean,
(37:50):
I don't know if I've mentioned him the show what
show are in my dreams? But um, my parents tried
getting starlink because they live in an area without good
uh Internet, and they couldn't use it because there are
trees around. So if there is like you're going to
have not trees a tree. If there's a tree, it
(38:11):
will disrupt service easily for people. So I feel like
that might be a problem. Also, the last I checked,
people have to have terminals on the ground and those
are like six Did he distribute terminals to people so
that they could access the starlink stuff? You know what
I mean? Like, I am very curious, has to because
everybody was sharing that and saying this is a you
know what this Elon Musk, you might have your thoughts
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on Elon Musk, but this is pretty cool. And I said,
maybe is it you know anyway? Is it? Is it right?
I mean, it's definitely a pr thing. It's a pr thing.
Also like he's not clearly not taking it seriously anyway. Um.
And it's like, you know, posting memes about how people
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whose support Ukraine or like yeah, however, how being horrified
at seeing another set of cities carpet bombed into powder
is like bandwagoning as opposed to two and a half
million refugees have been created in less than three weeks.
What a fucking nightmare? Um, which is like what most
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people are doing. Most people's reaction to Ukraine, you know,
the takes on Twitter are fifty fifty, but most people's
reactions just like, oh god, this looks awful because it is.
And that's like a reasonable way to look at a war. No,
not really, He's rich, um yeah, because it's it's he. Never.
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I mean, if there was anybody that I I think
might be an alien and human skin, it's him or
these two people I saw on a walk yesterday. Nothing
wrong with they were cute, No, no, they were sweet.
They just spoke to me a little. So. I mean,
you know, there's cool ship going on. There's stories coming
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out of the UK right now that one Russian oligarch's
mansion has been occupied by a bunch of anarchists who
intend to I mean, last I heard the cops were
lining up outside. I'm not sure if, but but kind
of forcing the police to either let them do it
or defend an oligarch's property is a pretty neat move.
Was there a story out of France or something like?
They haven't verified that one, so I don't know what
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the state, but it Yeah, I like the idea of
people occupying. I mean we'll start, well, they all start
using some of those properties for refugees, Yeah, to host refugees.
That's a great idea. Again, I think other kinds of
oligarchs we could take their houses too, But if it
starts with Russian oligarchs, that's fine to me. It's all
got to start somewhere. Um, yeah, so that would be neat.
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You guys want to talk about Missouri. It's part of
the world, it is, and it is a part of
this terrible year. Weren't. As someone who was born in St. Louis,
I certainly wish it weren't the world. Yeah, Missouri is
going to pass this law that bands um abortions of
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actopic pregnancies. Um an Ectopic pregnancy takes place out of
when the seed is implanted outside of the uterus. It
is not viable. Um it you cannot carry a child
to term and have it survived. It will kill the woman.
It will kill the mother, and it Oh I mean
(41:35):
how I don't. I don't, I don't. I do not
understand the rationale and the thinking behind thinking that this is. Um,
I don't understand the logic. It's just facts of what
this is. Like there's no life being saved here, You're
you're killing people. Yeah, it's yeah, well I mean it's
(41:58):
because this is I mean, ultimately, they just want to
uh you know, we all know what they want to do. Ultimately. UM.
I mean, is there anyway this is you know, where
you're like doing doing something that's like completely unreasonable. And
I feel like this has to get struck down. I'm
sure it will, Like it's like it's it's ludicrous. Um.
(42:20):
But it's the kind of thing that like, okay, well
we won't you know, I don't know, just making like
crafting the and pushing these like very uh awful bills
and then when they're struck down be like, okay, well
we'll do we'll do it, and it might be some
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quote reasonable and then they get what they actually want, right,
it might be some sort of move like that for sure,
but it's just um oh, it's just really hard to
see not to be some white feminist because there's lots
of harder things that not harder. Gosh here I am
checking choosing my words very carefully, but it is hard
to watch um them ship away at this and know
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what's coming and know that ultimately, like in a few
months they are almost certainly about to overturn Row and
it's like a slow motion car crash happening, and so like, yeah, okay,
maybe this, but it's still fucking offensive, um and scary.
And then also what it doesn't designed to Like when
it doesn't pass, you're like, well, at least that didn't happen.
(43:25):
Yeah no, fuck, that's like dant amount to murder of
a person that's of a mom that could go and
have an actual pregnancy, that could is already probably heartbroken
that she can't carry a child to turn because also
guess what a lot of most people. It's not like
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women don't are aborting babies left and right. The decision
to not have a child is deeply personal and very
difficult for most any who. That's my little soapbox. Um,
so yeah, maybe it's something that we don't but I
will think we deserve to be angry about it, even
if I don't think that it will ultimately stand, and
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we should continue to be We're gonna just be seeing
this continuing on and on a lot like trans rights
and the different bills aimed at targeting and trans use.
We're just gonna keep seeing it. We're gonna keep seeing this.
These are the things that they can do and chip
away and chip away and change subtly change public perceptions.
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I've had so many conversations I want this one person.
I won't even give more information, just saying like, well, yeah,
but it is a big deal if it's a gender
affirming surgery. Want not to completely pivot this whole conversation
gender affirming surgery at a young age. And I'm like,
you are accidentally talking sharing a right wing talking point,
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you know, like you are accidentally buying into this narrative,
And that's how it happens, even if people don't even
know what's happening, they're like, well, maybe this points like no,
it's not it's not valid here. I can't even remember
if I brought this up in another podcast. I talked
about it a lot when you like look at when
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you when you read kind of like actual scholarly analyzes
about the early years the Third Reich was in power.
One of the things you come across a lot is
this like problem they had where in order to get
into power, they had to make a lot of like
really bug fuck claims to get like number one, to
get people riled up, to like uh, set kind of
some of the ideological stages and like create this sort
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of zero sum game. There's a lot of like different
promises they made and like things they would talk about
ideologically that once they were in power, no one had
any idea how to translate into policy because it was
just nuts. And so a big chunk of their early
years was like finding out how to actually like what
the policy versions of all of these crazy promises were
looked like. And we get a lot of the things
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that were like most fucked up and horrible and weird
from the Third Reich out of this peer it and
what you're seeing in these states where the GOP has
effectively demolished any kind of opposition to Republican policy is
number one. All these like bug funk things they say
to go viral, they have to figure out, like, well,
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what does the law version of this look like? And
the other thing going on is that like, well, we've
already effectively banned abortion. So if you're a Republican congress
person or if you're running for office or you want
to like get re election or whatever, you're trying to
keep your name in the news as Republican policymaker. There's
nothing really more to do there except crazy shit. So
that you can say you're still you're you're fighting for
(46:38):
the pro life thing even though there's nothing more to
fight for in Texas, and that in the in the
state you're in, because you've effectively banned it, you have
to keep doing things to keep the donations and ship coming.
So you said, well, now we're banning a topic pregnancies,
and like that, that's that's why this is happening, yeah,
Or like the CRT stuff where it's like railiance that
for a year and then sudden He's like, well, now
you can't teach about Martin Luther King Jr. Like there's
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just all this stuff. Like well, on a policy level,
once you actually decide what it is, it's ridiculous and unworkable.
And that's I mean also with trans rights and all
the again exactly, it's all, it's all part of it.
These are the new thing goalposts, and they'll just keep
finding something else. One of the things that I think
is funny out of all this is that like Beto
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O Rourke, who is hopelessly running for governor again, like
looked at the political situation in Texas and was like,
all right, well, the thing that I have to compromise
with the right on and when when real or in
order to have a chance at election is critical race theory.
I'm gonna keep saying I'm gonna take everyone in Texas
his guns. That's that's fine. I think I can win
making that claim. CRT is where to make the compromise?
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What is how is he compromising on CRT um He
made a statement that like he doesn't believe critical race
theory should be taught in schools or some ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Oh my god. It's just like what the fuck are
you doing? Well, because it isn't because it isn't taught
in schools, you know, but like it's really gross, Okay,
(48:10):
I yeah. He was asked like I'm sure it's one
of those things where like he made a statement that's
not nearly as he's clear is not a good communicator,
which he was to support critical race theory, and I
think he said no, he said he doesn't think CRT
should be taught in schools, because what he's trying to
do is say like, well, CRT is like this law
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term that they teach law schools, and I don't think
they should be taught in schools because and it's not.
I think are probably on the same page as well.
We don't see CRT being taught in our schools right now.
It is a course that is taught in law schools.
I don't think CRT should be taught in our schools.
That's just help. That's so he's so bad at this.
The right answer, like the right thing is like, it's
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not you're lying to people. It's not you're lying to people,
and it's fine to teach the history of racism in
our nation. His response is like, let's give them. Let's
let's let's respond to this in a way that like
makes the obvious sound bite, because I don't think he
gets I don't know, he's he's not. He's not. He's
not going to be the governor of Texas. You know,
he's not. That's fine, he's not going to be the
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governor of Texas. He's it's it's just not going to happen.
A different kind of person is necessary. I'm looking at
it now. That is a really bad response because it's
just like giving people in the easy Yeah, I mean,
it's gotta I'm sure. I don't know if listeners are
super aware of Christopher Ruffo, but he's this like, uh,
(49:39):
you know, you know, he's like he'd have been stabbed,
admitting that he's conflating everything with everything else in order
to make it confusing. And then you ban everything that's
his whole whole things out there. But now you have
him tweeting Beato. Rourke becomes the first prominent Democrat to
flip against critical race there. Yeah, yeah, well that's not
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what happens. It's not what it is at this Yeah,
I don't know that's going to be the episode for us. Yeah,
it is isn't it feels right? I want to pick
yourself up a little. Imagine Christopher Ruffo getting stabbed by
Dustin Hoffman dressed as a pirate. Yeah, that's nice. Or
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um um being a dolphin saving people and hiding them
in underground sea caves. Being a dolphin like me stabbing
Christopher Ruffo lookie and then giving giving a high five. Today.
I once saw the real actual Rufio at yogurt Land.
That's good, and I'm sorry, but it's just so much
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like the colorful food that they throw at each other
that it's that. I was like, this is gonna be
amazing that I did not throw it at him. I
wanted to. Should you guys know that? When they were
making Hook, one of my favorite movies, perfect films, so good.
Um at the actor who played Shmi, who was also
(51:02):
the main character and who framed Roger Rabbit, which blew
my mind. Ye Hoskins, Yeah, he and Dustin Hoffman who
played Hook, decided to play their characters as if they
were longtime gay romantic partners. They just didn't want to
say it, but like that's how we're actually going to
play it, Like that's it's perfect. Well, I'm you watching
(51:25):
that tonight. It's so good, awesome. Yeah, it's film incredible
rescue throw. Yeah. We really dovetailed this episode with some
uh hot hot pop. There we go, Bookeen did it?
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