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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart
Radio Together Everything, So don't don't do Wow. We welcome
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back to our rooms in separate areas Worst year ever,
and that's how the news goes. Sophie made a gesture
that I should play a chord on the guitar, so
I did. I'm Cody Johnston. I'm wait shit, damn it.
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We really lose our vibe when we're not in the
same room together. Don't weather, I'm Robert Johnston. Yep, that
sounds right. And Katie, it's the worst year ever. Oh, guys, guys, guys, guys,
we're back. We're back this day. Today, we are bringing
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you a prepisode, uh about coronavirus and all of the
stuff that's happening around us. Yeah. So, about a year ago,
I released a podcast called it Could Happen Here, and
it was focused on theorizing about a possible second American
Civil War, and repeatedly throughout it, I suggested both gently
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and directly that people stock up on nonperishable foods and
have a month or so of of dried food on hand,
as well as some water. Um. We also talked about
the potential of preparing with firearms, and stuff like that.
Did you stock up on all those things? Oh? Yeah,
I had about when when the coronavirus hit, I had
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six to seven months of dried food in my home.
Are you holding all the toilet paper? No? I did not.
I did not one of the one of the benefits.
So obviously, you know, we had this this major problem.
That's still a major problem that like, when all this hit,
people went to the stores and bought up everything in sight.
And it's a huge issue. Because I was prepared. I
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did not have to do that. I did not have
to rush to the grocery store. I didn't have to
panic buy stuff. I didn't have to contribute to that
problem because I had prepared months and months ago. And
there's a couple of things I want to get to.
I think number one, prepping has gotten a very bad
rap um, in part because of some reality shows that
have have highlighted kind of the the louneist people who
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do it. In part because a lot of the people
who prep are are legitimately lunatics who you know, think
that the government is conspiring with aliens to steal their sperm,
and so they have to hide in a bunker. Aliens
name is Q. Yeah, and that alien's name is Q
and aliens are trying to steal your sperm. But it's fine.
You have plenty um think we were going to start
this off with alien sperm, but continue Okay, every episode
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starts with alien sperm, Sophie, one way or the other,
whether you know it or not. Uh So. One of
the biggest misconceptions I think is that this idea that
you prep so that you can protect yourself and your
family in the event of an emergency and basically hide
out and waited out with a year's worth of food
or whatever, that is not what prepping should be. And
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this is I want this guide to be a guide
to practical, ethical, left wing prepping. And the reason that
I have seven now eight months of food on standby
is not so that I can hide alone for eight
months if this gets really bad. It's so I can
provide food and support two members of my community and
a member of two different local UH signal chats that
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have between them twenty some odd people who live in
my immediate area. And one of the nice things about
the stockpile I have is that I was immediately able
to reach out to them, some of them who work
in the in the service industry, who have lost work,
who are currently very short on funds, and say I
have a bunch of extra food and I can help
you out if you need it. That is the prepping
is not. Yeah, that's a really really important uh point
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to make because as this goes on, as it continues,
we really need to be able to rely on each other,
uh and uh, you know, do what we can to
help each other survive. The most important thing to understand
about prepping, from my point of view at least, is
that the only real security is community security, and the
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only real self defense is community self defense. And the
reason I was saying everyone should have at least two
weeks ideally a month worth of dried food is that
Number One, you don't have to panic when something like
this drops. You have the stuff on hand. You know
that you're you're not immediately going to be out of
things if there's a run on the grocery store. Um. So,
the guide that I have it's pretty multifaceted, and I
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tried to provide stuff for people who have extra money
and can afford to buy things now, and also stuff
for folks who are like I'm going to guess a
lot of people are right now on a very severe budget, um,
particularly because of the disaster. So there's a bunch of
things that you can do that do require money. There's
something that you can do that do not require money.
I've tried to have a good like mix of of
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all that stuff on here. The first thing I want
to focus on is that I don't think this will pass.
This coronavirus, this quarantine, the current state of affairs were
and will pass, but it will not be the last
such disaster that hits us in the next couple of years,
within our lifetimes. Um. Yeah. The for one thing, disease outbreaks,
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both the viruses and and dangerous bacteria are likely to
grow more common as the result of climate change. Yes,
that's something really important that I don't see being mentioned
a lot about this right now. And what's going to
continue to be happening is as climate change worsens, so
will pandemics like this. Yeah, and there's actually a lot
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of historical examples of that. UM. Cholera was initially kind
of just the bacterium that causes it was just like
chilling out in the waters off of the coast of
India until the colonialists started fucking around there and it
got charned up and into the population, and now it's
this global problem. UM, So things like that could hit. Um.
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Natural disasters are likely to grow more common. In two
thousand sixteen, the U. S. Navy Coast Guard in Washington
State National Guard did a full scale nine day drill
to see how well they'd be able to respond to
an earthquake in the Cascadia Subduction Zone UM, which covers
a big chunk of the Pacific Northwest in northern California.
And they're eighty three page report is kind of terrifying.
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I don't necessarily recommend reading it unless you're really willing
to to scare yourself. But the short of it is that,
as the authors, who are again the Department of Defense
and like national like defense organizations, our infrastructure is not
ready for something like that, and there would be a
humanitarian crisis within ten days, um. And you know people
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about a million people within that area after the quick
it would be without water for months, not days. So yeah,
that's yeah. This whole thing, Sorry, Robert's done a lot
of this work and we're going to be interjecting, but
this whole thing feels so surreal. It's starting to feel
not normal. But you're we're adjusting to the new reality,
let's say. But you always think in the back of
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your mind, Oh, this worst case thing might happen, but
it's not gonna it hasn't. The big one might hit,
it's not gonna's it hasn't. You know, why should I
waste time focusing on all of these scary things when
I need to be living right now. And the truth
is is that it is going to happen, It can happen,
and we need to be prepared. Yeah, and I so
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I think that like there's this kind of you're right
that like we do need to continue to live our lives.
So prepping should not be fundamentally should not be something
that alters your life. It should be something that you
do in addition to what you already doing. And it
does not need to be wildly expensive. Um. Now, the
before I was telling people to buy dried food buckets.
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Wise Company is who I used you can get. You
could get before the coronavirus hit about a month worth
of food for about eight bucks. Now it's more like
two three bucks for the same amount of food. I
do not recommend buying any of those freeze dried food options.
They're very useful for certain things, but I do not
think we should reward price gouging in these times. Um.
And you can much more cheaply and ethically prep right
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now by getting a mix of dried beans, dried rice,
and dried vegetables, all of which is available online for
Amazon dot com. You can get a month's worth of
food for you know, a pretty reasonable price, still fifty
to one hundred bucks UM. And I I will include
we will unlike the notes for this, we'll we'll put
up a Twitter thread that will pin to the top
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of worst year ever that will have all of the sources.
But I found a really good page from the spruce
eats dot com that has how to properly measure and
convert dried beans. So about two cups of dried beans
is about a pound UM worth, and that one cup
of dried beans equals three cups of cooked beans. Half
cup is about one fifteen ounce metal can of beans.
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Now you get you know, a tin pound bag of
dried beans, a tin pound bag of rice, and like
a two pound bag of dried vegetables, and you can
make a pretty hearty soup as long as you have
and that's a couple of weeks worth of food for
an individual as a vegetarian. I know that a lot
of you guys are probably struggling because or you know,
adjusting to the fact that meat is harder to come by.
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But beans and rice form a perfect protein. Yeah, they
absolutely do. It is everything you need to survive, and
you can. They're not currently all bought up. There's plenty
of dried beans, there's pretty plenty of rice. The stuff
is still getting being grown and shipped. Um, you can
get a couple of tin pound bags of dried beans,
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a couple of tin pound bags of rice, and a
couple of one pound bags of dried veggies. And that
is that's more than fourteen day is worth of food
for an individual. That that can keep a household going
for a while. Um. You also want to include like
salt and and and veggie stock. Stuff like that can
allow you to kind of make it tasti or stop
you from getting bored. Um. But that's that is a
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basic prep. That's what you need in your emergency food
been and it's not going to break the bank. Also, also, guys,
I just want to Robert mentioned Amazon, and I know
a lot of people are thinking, I've been on Amazon.
I don't see anything. Um. I just want to point
out that there was an announcement today that Amazon has
hired a hundred thousand more people. To hire a hundred
thousand more people. I hope they are also giving them
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sickly of coverage in case they get sick. Um. Uh.
This is a less cost effective suggestion. But if you
do have a bit more funds at your disposal right
now and you're worried about your your community restaurants and
everything like that, they are still doing take out in
a lot of places. I don't know how long that
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will go. You know, there's a there is a possibility
that there is a shuttering of of all restaurants services
and whatnot. But for the time being, I'm trying to
continue to support things locally. Uh And and I think
it's helpful to follow them on social media because a
lot of them will have announcements about how they're doing operations,
and it's another good way to support community. One restaurant
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near us here in Los Angeles, for example, is putting
up a website in the next two days where people
can order directly from them, yes, meals, but also supplies.
The way they put it is, we've got a really
robust relationship with lots of growers and farmers that are
really already feeling this. So you, you know, come to
us to buy your eggs and your fresh produce UM
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and they will bring it outside to you to pick
it up. That should be that if you're in l A,
that's all time restaurant um. But I encourage you to
start following and reaching out to the restaurants in your
community and see what services like that they are offering
so that you can keep money to people that need it. Oh.
The other thing that they're doing that I really respect
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is their staff are going to be the people that
help do deliveries and whatnot, So they are actively trying
to keep people employed. So that's if you have the
resources to do that, I think that that's a really
great way to spend your money in time. Also, several
grocery stores and I saw this in l A. The
Ara Juan. I mean, I can't afford everyone, but UH
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is opening their store earlier and only letting senior citizens
and people that are immunocompromised shop within the first hour
supplies very a amazing And I've seen that, Aron, I've
seen that from different people on Twitter in their local areas,
different groceries that are doing that and drug stores, and
I think that's badass. Yeah, that's and yeah, I that's
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all great. And I also want to add, um, a
lot of Chinese and other Asian supermarkets still have supplies
stuff like rice, dried food, and they're being less shopped
at because of racism. If you're going to grocery stores,
that's not a bad option. Um. And you can get
you know, getting getting a twenty pound sack of rice
or whatever and some beans can provide you with some
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some security. And what you should be striving to do
if you are getting into preparing, because this has convinced
you that it is necessary, start by getting a two
weeks supply of food for your house. Um. And you know,
you do not need to worry super much about water
right now. There's nothing I've seen that makes me think
that the water supply will be interrupted. If you're serious
about prepping, you also want a two weeks supply of
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stored water. Um, this is not a great time to
buy it because, like everything else prepping related, the big
food grade blue buckets, like I have about eight sixty
gallons outside of my house right now. Those UM have
gone up in price, but when they come back down,
get a couple of those. But fourteen days is where
you start. Expand that to thirty days of food. And
then if you continue to, like if you stay employed
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throughout this, if you have money coming in every month,
try and add an extra two weeks of dried food
to your stockpile until you know you're at the limit
of what you can store, and that will mean you
have extra for people in your community to help out
if things get really bad. UM. I wanted to provide
a guide for people who do not have additional money
so that they can still stock up on food. UM.
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Urban foraging is a surprisingly good way to get calories.
If you live in Los Angeles or like San Francisco,
both of which are locked down right now, there is
an enormous amount of food, more than you would suspect,
and there are very simple guides to it. There's an
app called Falling Falling Fruit that will show you where
there are different edible trees and and and bushes and
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stuff in your area. They're all marked on a map.
And there's also an urban foraging guide that will provide
a link to on falling Fruit dot org that provides
a guide to finding different edible foods and plants. You know,
it's going to differ somewhat depending on where in the
country you live. Um, but once you pick those things.
I also have a guide on freezing vegetables from the
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University of Georgia Cooperative Extension Service that will help you
to you know, take whatever you get, whatever fruits and
veggies you get, uh freeze them and store them for
long periods of time, which will provide you with an
option if you do not have additional money to spend
and you still want to get a stockpile. I also
found on storage prepper dot com a prepper's guide to pickling,
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which does require a little bit more money because you
have to be able to get the jars, but you
can also find empty jars. Pickling is a great way
to store food for a longer period of time, and
all that stuff is very low in terms of the
amount of resources you need to expend. And even though
that's like a fun quarantine activity, it is it is.
It's a good thing. But part of what I'm trying
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to push is it's good to learn these things even
if you don't need them. I have a lot of
friends who pickle stuff and they bring over different pickled
foods when we have parties, and it's delicious, and it's
a great thing to be able to do. Um it.
It builds part of what we're trying to do when
we talk about disaster reaction effectively is build a sense
of power, and learning how to forage in your area,
Learning how to pickle, learning how to freeze food and
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vegetables provides you with a sense of power. Even if
like you're suffering economically hugely right now, this is something
you can probably do without burning a lot of resources,
and even in places that are locked down like Los
Angeles and San Francisco. One of the things that's important
to understand shelter in places the term being used right now.
That does not mean you have to stay in your
home at all times, and it is still medically recommended
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to go outside, take walks, go on runs. You're supposed
to not get physically close to people, but that doesn't
mean you can't be outside. It doesn't mean you can't
be foraging. It doesn't mean you can't jog, Please keep
doing that sort of stuff. It's necessary for your mental
and physical health. What is been hard in Allas that
this whole thing really hit the day a huge rainstorm
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came to town and it will be raining for weeks.
So take advantage if you are having weird weather, just
take advantage of the breaks that you can to get
outside and breathe some air, um and see nature a
little bit. It helps immensely, Yeah, it really does. UM.
Now there's there's two resources I wanted to suggest to
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people who are interested in doing more reading on prepping.
One of them is a newsletter run by a friend
of mine, Jason Wilson. He's reporter from the Guardian. It's
called the End uh and it's the end dot sub
stack dot com um and we'll we'll have a link
to that. He has a very simple basic guide to
prepping for people who are new to it. And then
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there's another guide uh from the prepared dot com Prepping Basics,
and it's a very reasonable, non like panicky guide to prepping,
and it includes a couple of like really useful tips.
So like here's one about how like a normal person
could without changing anything, but what they pick up at
the grocery store, build a stockpile of food, and I
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want to read from that right now, so uh. Susan
normally eats soup twice a week. Cans of soup have
a shelf life of three years. Today, Susan keeps a
few cans in the pantry and buys just enough every
shopping trip to hold her over until the next trip.
So it didn't he give time. Susan may have only
a handful of cans at home. Instead, Susan starts buying
a few extra cans each trip when her budget allows.
Newly purchased cans go to the back of the pantry
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line with dates written on them and marker, and Susan
always eats the oldest can first. After a while, Susan
has built up a surplus with a pantry of up
to three hundred twelve cans of soup two per week
times fifty two weeks times three years shelf life. Once
she hits the right surplus level, she goes back to
the habit of buying just enough each trip to replenish
what was eaten since the last trip. Her daily life
routine doesn't change yet, she never eats expired soup. If
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an emergency happens, there's now over three hundred cans of
food that Susan already enjoys with up to three years
of life left. Very simple guy, that's very organized. Yeah,
there's something, and this this guide on the prepared points
it out. There's something called the eight twenty rule UM
that applies to a number of things, but particularly prepping.
The initial twenty of all of the possible work you
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do in prepping get you eighty percent of the way
too prepared, um, and then the other eight you know,
the other twenty percent is stuff like maybe stockpelling, AMMO
and our or the kind of things everyone doesn't need
to do is less likely to be helpful um than
just making sure you have enough food and water on hand.
So with with some pretty simple and inexpensive tactics, you
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can build up a good stockpile and some things to remember.
And when you're looking at prepping, don't buy any off
the shelf bugout bag kits or ship like. There's a
lot of that that's going to be going up and
being sold on Amazon and whatnot. It's almost all crap.
It's almost all low quality UM equipment UM, and it's
almost all useless stuff that looks cool and tactical. UM,
you will you will benefit more by storing beans and
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stuff like that. UM. Now, one thing I do want
to focus on a little bit is UM is resilience.
So resilience means having multiple pathways to get what you need.
So it means having a couple of weeks to a
month or two of dried food in the house. But
it also means having a bag ready to go with
three to four days worth of provisions in it, UM
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and some water water purification tablets in case you need
to leave your home because of a natural disaster or something.
You know, we are fortunate enough that this disaster allows
us to stay at home with everything that we have.
They are not all like that, So you should also
have a ready bag. In my bag, I have because
I was lucky enough to stock piled dried fruit. I
have about two weeks of dried food. I have a
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couple of changes of underwear and shirts. I have some ammunition.
We'll talk about guns at the end of this UM.
And I have two different forms of water filtration device.
I have a life straw and I have a hand
water pump that filters water. UM and part of my thinking,
and that is I want to have multiple ways to
get water because water is one of the quickest things
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that if you run out of, you will die. Yeah,
I've heard that water is life. Water is Yeah, it's
a thing, and it's useful to have. You can get
water purification tablets, you can get UV devices like a
life straw, and you can get water pumps. And my
whole kit of about three gallons worth of water purification tablets,
a pump, and a life straw fits in a shoe box.
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That one raw, one pump, one Life straw. That that
is and it cost a couple like two hundred bucks.
You know, it's not an outrageous expense. And it gives
me three different ways to get what I need, which
is water, and I can throw it in a bag
and go um yeah, yeah, um. I'm gonna interrupt real
quick to announce that now is the time for ads adsum,
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but don't worry, we'll be back from for more of
this after the ads than the services. Well well done
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at break. We're so back. We're so glad to be back.
I know you guys are too, Robert, this has been
really fascinating so far. Um, I want to hear more.
Tell me. Okay, well, so we've covered basically how to
get the food and stuff that you need. Um, and
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right now focus on food. Water is should not be
your immediate concern in this particular disaster, but if you
actually do want to be prepared, getting a two week
supply of water plus additional resources to filter it and
stuff should be on your list. You don't have to
get all this at once. You don't have to panic
and buy all this at once. The water is going
to keep working for this, you know. Yeah, just use
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this as I think that we're trying to hammer home
that this is a bad situation, and if you can
extrapolate some silver lining, it's that it's not the worst
it can be. We have resources still available to us.
Now is the time to to learn how to prep
for things the next time they happen. Yes, this is
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about number one, setting yourself up to where that when
a disaster happens, you do not have to panic and
rush to the store and crowded with everyone and maybe
be a part of something bad like people get trampled
or whatever. Because you have you have what you need
so you don't have to panic and and so you're
not fueling the collective panic either exactly. And this is
also about proper disaster relief is also about community building
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and particularly the building of resiliency. So on an individual level,
what building resiliency looks like is both having the stuff
that you need to to survive and also building skills
that are useful. So learning how to forage, learning how
to pickle, learning how to to can your or not can,
but learning how to like make your own jam, learning
how to freeze vegetables. That is part of it um
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and right now, when we're locked at home and a
lot of us are out of work, people have more
time to learn and study and build skills. And there's
versions of that that cost money, and there's versions of
that that are free, and I wanted to highlight some
things that are free. One thing that you can do
for free or very little money is significantly build up
your ability to perform emergency medicine. So there's not very
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much that you, as an individual, we can do for
someone who has the coronavirus. But one of the things
that the coronavirus pandemic is going to cause is for
our medical facilities to be overstretched. They will have less
resources to deal with people who are in car accidents,
who cut themselves, who fall off of a ladder, whatever,
you receive some sort of of physical injury. Those people
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will not be able to rely as readily on emergency
medical I keep thinking about that because I am clumsy
and I like slipped down some steps today and was like,
I can't let that happen. I gotta stay out of
the hospital. Yes, there there are a couple of different
guides that are free UM, and I'm going to focus
on the guides that are are free first. But I
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also have a guy that's very cheap that's even better.
So the free guides, I would talk to you or
I would suggest people look into UM if you go
to there's a link from paper revolution dot org slash
street Dash medic Dash guide. Again. We'll have these links
in a Twitter threat on the worst from at Worst
of your pod. Um. This is a guide for street
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medics that that includes some very basic way like treatments
for trauma, some very basic rules for performing emergency medicine.
It is a good guide, UM and it it again
it's free, so you can read this over in the
space of you know, part of an afternoon, and you
know read it over a couple of times over time,
you know, make it a thing you do every week
until you internalize some stuff. I also found um e
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m basic dot org has a series of podcasts on
emergency medicine. So they include guides for how to do
you know, guides for how to perform some emergency medicine stuff,
and also links to other podcasts that cover emergency medicine basics. UM,
this isn't a good thing to to look into, UM
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a good thing to listen to. It will help you know,
it will help you provide care to people who need
it in the event of an emergency. I've also got
a link to the Military First Aid Manual. All military
manuals are free. UM. They are all available online. So
emergency medicine manuals and stuff like that, you can read
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all of that stuff. It is your property as an
American citizen, and it's also available internationally. Now, these are
kind of dents. They're not as easy to let go
through as some other sources you might find, but they're
very good, UM and worth reading. And that that that
is all free. Those are all free resources you can
use to become more adept at providing emergency medical care. Now,
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I wanted to also talk about a guide. It's a
guide that I find the best that's out there for
emergency like trauma medicine. UM, and it's not expensive. It's
currently four dollars on Kindle. It is the Survival Got
Doctor's Guide to Wounds what to do when there is
no doctor. Now, this is written by an actual doctors. Yeah,
it's a great book. It's written by an actual doctor
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with thirty years of medical experience. UM. He is not
a crank. He he very much emphasizes this is only
what you use when you cannot find when you cannot
access real medical care, and specifically in a situation where
like there's a pandemic and the doctors are overloaded, you
can't get to a hospital. What I like about this
guy It is number one, it's very short. You're not
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reading a dense medical textbook. You can burn through this
thing in an hour or two. But it has links
with everything that he talks about. There are links in
the guide to videos and stuff, so you can download
this on your whatever device you're going to keep charged
up and have it and you can cross reference and
see someone actually actually perform these different procedures, um and
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acquaint yourself better with them, so you're not just reading
someone describe how to do something like like apply pressure
to a wound. You can watch videos and stuff that
that bring you through it. It is less than four dollars.
It is worth its weight in gold. You can read
through it in the space of again an afternoon and
then digital and it's a digital car. You can get
it digital so you don't have to wait for something
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to come in the out. I just wanted to let
people know if you do not have money, I found
a I found a copy of The Survival Doctor's Guide
to Wounds on script dot com. If you just type
in S C R, I B D and then the
Survival Doctor's Guide to Wounds, you'll find it. If you
get a thirty day free script trial, you can read
through the whole thing and at least acquaint yourself with
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some stuff. This is a good book, um I I
I recommend going through it, and it's the kind of
thing where you could just devote twice a week. I'm
going to read through a chapter, watch some videos, and
get a little bit better at doing this another good
thing to do in quarantine. Also, again we're going to
post this on Twitter, but also Robert hasn't mentioned this.
(28:37):
I will also post this with the episode description with
clickable links. This is yeah, so that and again the
thing I'm trying to emphasize is building resiliency, getting good
at things that you aren't currently good at. Um. And
So another thing that I think is uh, a good
book to read that will cost a little bit of
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money but is toetally worth it. Um you know, talking
about survival situations. Obviously, again this is one where we
don't have to leave our homes. There's no guarantee that
it will not be that way in the future. And
if you want to have a book that will prepare
your you better for surviving in a disaster situation where
you might have to live off the land or survive
(29:19):
you know, outside of like the comfort of a city,
there is no better resource than the book Bushcraft one
oh one by Dave Canterbury. This is the gold standard
for wilderness survival books. It is the single best resource
you can have if that is a concern of yours.
It's ten or eleven dollars on Amazon. I didn't get
a physical copy for about the same amount. You can
(29:42):
be reading this and studying and even practicing a lot
of it from just like you can still go on hikes.
So again, if we're looking at things that we can
do that do not necessarily cost money, you know, obviously
that's going to differ depending on where you live, your
access to you know, rural areas, your access to a
national part. But a lot of people have access to
those things without spending money or without spending much money.
(30:05):
You can still go to those places. You can be
out in wilderness, you can be foraging, you can be
practicing with things like depending on your area, you know,
you know, starting fires depending on your area, doing some
basic woodcrafting, building shelters, using those machetes everybody's bought. All
of this stuff is things that while where you don't
have to be close to anyone to do it, and
(30:27):
it will make you feel more empowered and more less
if something disastrous happens, if you have to flee your
home with a backpack and you've been practicing, you've been
spending time out in the woods, practicing these these skills,
you will feel less terrified, You'll be power reduces fear
that is a general rule UM. And nothing increases your
(30:50):
power as an individual like having knowledge of how to
survive um. So that is another resource that I would
heavily suggest people take in. And again, I I'm trying
to provide a good mix of things that are free
um and things that are not free UM, because I
know we're all in different situations here and this all
sounds like a lot and it's maybe daunting, and I
(31:11):
get that I've got a lot of catching up to do.
But like I keep quipping in, you've got the time, now,
how how do we use this time psychologically? I think
that's really important. How can we make the most out
of this force? Quarantine these isolations. It doesn't have to
be writing your Shakespearean master right, We're not all writing
(31:36):
king Lear right now. I'm to sure Robert's already done.
All you you're transcribing king Lear right now here prep.
It's not erotic enough yet, and I'm I'm making it
very erotic. There's a lot of Jeremy. I'm gonna be honest,
it's Jeremy Renner's knuckles. We should reach out to Bernie.
He's got a history with writing erotic essays. We're actually
(32:00):
we're actually working on it together in a Google he
calls it the Google docs. But Bernie, that's really show
your age there. But even like getting together, that's also important.
Is lacking in community building? Um, right, Like even like
(32:24):
getting together and like doing a call like this or
like skyping or something like that, getting on discord and
reading these materials together. Yeah, um would help, I think.
And if you do that, please send us screenshots of
your Skype sessions as you do your emergency prep and
will celebrate them. Yeah, definitely, this is I mean, there's
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ways to be social while you're social distancing. I've been
doing the dinner I have a FaceTime dinner plan with
any of my friends in the same place, but dinner
FaceTime drinks with one friend and my other group of
girlfriends were trying to touch base in the evening with
a little face timing. It's helpful. And I am planning,
you know once uh, kind of the two week window
(33:08):
where we're all hunkered down as up, I'm planning on
some small get togethers with four or five friends, you know, um,
people who who don't live with immunocompromised folks. And it's
not a major you know risk once we're past that
two week window for us to sit together and there
is light at the end of this dark tunnel. Yeah,
(33:29):
it one thing that you should be doing again. I'm
very glad because I'm in in communication with a lot
of activist circles, a lot of people who who are
used to gathering on a regular basis to try to
do things that are sometimes a little scary and dangerous because, uh,
the place where I'm located has had some some civil disturbances. Um.
I'm in these communities of twenty or thirty people that
(33:51):
are used to mobilizing larger groups of people, and we
are all still talking over this. We're keeping track of
each other, of each other's neighborhoods, how they're doing. UM.
And that is a thing that you can be building.
And it's it's as simple as you know, hitting up
that neighbor that you've had a couple of good interactions
with but never really talked too much. And I'm like, hey,
can I get you on signal? Like I want to
be able to keep in touch with the neighborhood and
(34:13):
and building a network like that. UM. And that that
bitly link we sent around last time, Bitly slash COVID
nineteen collective care for different mutual aid groups all around
the country. If you guys miss that, it's on the
worst year Twitter, Yeah, look into that. And also I
would like to encourage people to let us know when
(34:35):
they get involved in stuff like that if you're doing
things like you know, people have been putting circulating a
print outs that you can put up in front of
like your neighbor's houses that say like, hey, if you
are immuno compromised, or if you are self quarantined and
you can't leave your house and your need things, here
is how to contact me. I can get you stuff
and drop it off outside of your door. UM. That's
(34:57):
something like that. UM is a way to provide necessary
care to people around you and to build a sense
of community which builds resiliency. Yeah. I just signed up
to do that with one in our community. So yeah,
these are all kind of things that I'm focusing on. Cody.
You know, I'm curious kind of how you're feeling all
(35:18):
about this and if you have kind of any questions
on this, since you've been thinking a lot about everything
that's going on. I have I have no questions for you, really,
I'm I'm here to support you and your endeavors and listen,
this is a lot of this stuff is new to
me as well. Um, I'm trying to I've been trying
to stay sane obviously, and stay in contact with various neighbors.
(35:41):
Um and uh, yeah, I have no questions for you. Well, wish,
I wish, I wish I could, I could help more
with this, but I'm more here to let you do
what you do best. Yeah. I mean yeah, like I'm
not know it's better than Hey, everybody go on you know,
(36:04):
daily wire dot com and buy their prepping gear. Uh.
You know the very important question, Um, and that's isn't
it time for an ad break? It is time for
that was my question, Robert. I do have some things
I'd like you to clarify after this break. Sure. Well,
(36:25):
one thing I feel confident saying is that all of
the products and services advertised on this show will help
you prepare for disaster, especially the dick pills. I believe it.
Everybody is extremely horny now, so make sure it's true.
Looking forward to that wave of COVID babies together, everything,
(36:55):
don't don't. Okay, we're back, and one thing before we
get on we're back, and we're still we are very horny,
unbelievably horny, and cover your ears. One thing I wanted
to say before we get into the other questions. You
guys have uh if you, whether you have or haven't,
played Dungeons and Dragons, now is a great time to
(37:16):
get into it with your friends on Skype or and
it's It's the kind of thing you don't even need
to know the rules. When I was a kid, the
first D and D games I played were one of
only one of us had any idea of the rules,
and we just flipped a coin fifty fifty and the
d M would decide based on that whether or not
the action went well or badly. You can make it
be like a modern cyberpunk setting. You can go with fantasy.
(37:39):
It's a great way again to have a community, to
have some socialization, and it I am of the opinion
that the very best way to recreationally spend time is
playing Dungeons and Dragons. It's my favorite thing in the world.
This mean we're gonna revisit your blood magic world. Yes
we are. We are, my incredibly horny custom D and
(38:00):
D campugns. I can't wait. I want to get back
to what you were about to tell us. So I
just wanted to go over some of these terms that
are being thrown around, and uh, I just we talked
about shelter in place a little bit, but I just
thought we could go over some of these some of
these things that I went through social media. I went
(38:22):
through Trump's twitter horrifying, I went through Fox News, I
went through Cenana, went through New York Times, and I
went off of you know what, the mayor of Los
Angeles was sending an emergency text just to get, you know,
some of these terms out there and and get get
the right definitions for our listeners. So let's just start
with what we already kind of covered already, which is
(38:43):
shelter in place. What does that actually mean, Robert again,
it means that you should not leave your home for
any unnecessary purposes. But more to the point that makes
it sounds like you should stay locked in your house.
It does not mean that. It means the only place
you should go where other people are is like a
grocery store because you need food, or a drug store
(39:04):
because you need medicine. Don't go to the bar, don't
go to the restaurant. Don't go to the beach parties,
don't go to the Florida. Stop going to theach. I mean,
go to the beach if you're by yourself on an
empty beach. Yeah, yes, something, Oh my gosh. Yeah, Like
there's been a mist of like stuff that's reasonable to
(39:25):
criticize and stuff that's not like those people. Pictures of
people partying and swimming together in Florida are insane and
those people are very irresponsible. Someone was also yelling at
a bunch of people at like a park in San Francisco,
and it's like, no, people are clearly huddled in groups
of folks. They live around a four to five and
they're all ten fifteen feet apart. That is okay and
probably safer than all huddled together in a house where
(39:48):
viruses as you need connection, take it outside and keep
your space. Um yeah, I mean, I we know, we
know it's St. Patrick's Day and you know that you
can you can do a skype, Yeah you can, somebody
year old mother, sorry, you can get drunk alone at
home and watch trimmers, which is all Sophie. You don't
(40:11):
sound like someone's ninety year old mother, because a lot
of the ninety year old mothers are not heating this advice.
UM else I wanted to talk about after we go
through this terms is exactly what Katie just said, um
social distancing Roberta. Because that's been that. I think it's
(40:31):
a little bit more clear, but I think it's what
we just explained about being outside and just keeping your Yeah,
it is a good space to be. You can. Stopped
by Cody's place yesterday with a couple of things, and
I didn't get near him, you know, and he wiped
(40:51):
down every surface. I touched down all surfaces at all times.
Ye grab your machette and swing at a around you
in a wide, blind dark and if you don't hit anybody,
you are far enough away from other people to be responsible.
I've been resisting it for such a spike in machete sales.
(41:13):
Does Amazon have? Amazon has so many machetes, Cody UM.
I personally recommend c R K T M because they're affordable,
very good quality. If you have a little more money
to spend. Cold Steel sells some incredibly high quality products,
but they don't they don't have thermometers, but they do
have lots of machete. The plenty of mache Take a
(41:35):
photo of this right now. Please, that's Sophie's machete that
I got and Daniel's holding his tiny little knife. I'm
looking at that exact machete Sophie on Amazon. Yeah, it's
the Chance of Help and River knife and tool. It's
a great machete, very affordable. Okay. So the next thing
that I would like for you to kind of explain
to people is this flattening the curve that is being said,
(42:00):
which I think makes sense, but I've seen it again
not makes sense based on who's saying it. Flattening the
curve is essentially trying to do our best to stop
the crest of this, which means if we keep going
around unknowingly infecting each other, then the curve is going
(42:22):
to continue to rise and there's going to be a
huge number of people UH descending upon the hospitals all
at once. Lowering the curve by social distancing is to
just prevent the spread of it. And when you the
curve we're talking about are the charts that you see
UH when you're looking at the growth of the virus
in other countries in the rate with which right now,
(42:43):
where are on trend with UH, Italy and China, and
we do not know what the peak will be just yet,
but lowering the curve is our current tempt via social
distancing to um, you know, kind of stop and even so,
like I know, I've been seeing a lot of people
actually uh in Australia who have been in America recently
(43:07):
returning to Australia and noticing that the sense there is
very much like the sense that was in America a
week or two ago of like not really that big
a deal. We're not gonna do what's recommended. Um, so
these are the things maybe that we should have done earlier.
So if you're in a place where it doesn't seem
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like it's coming to you, uh, do these things now
to prevent that. Um. They're like they're just simple visuals.
You can see of a line of matches going along
and you remove one match and then it stops. Um.
That's that's what we're doing right now. Yeah, Robert, do
(43:50):
you want to explain the difference between state of emergency
and national emergency because that that is being thrown out
there as well, and I don't and and just define
both of the UM or in general in what that
would look like and why we're in a national emergency. Well,
I mean, I'm not an expert on any of this
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as I understand it, a state of emergency is something
that like a local leader can declare for like a
city or a state. UM, and a national emergency is
obviously something that that has to be declared by the president. Yeah,
we are currently in both. Many of us are currently
in both. I don't think every state has declared a
(44:30):
state of emergency, but a lot of them have, and
a lot of those populous ones have UM and then
a national emergency. Part of what declaring it does, and
this is like when Trump declared a national emergency over
the border, it was complete horseship. This is absolutely a
reasonable time and it should have been done weeks earlier
to declare a national emergency. Part of what it does
is open up billions of dollars in funds that the
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CDC and other organizations have for dealing with disasters that
cannot be used unless it's a national emergency. So we
have a national You could look at it as like
the national version of prepping. We keep a stockpile of
money and other ship available for times like this, and
this is what opening declaring a national emergency lets the
government use that stuff, and we aren't getting into this
(45:12):
right now. We don't know what's going to happen, but
as of the time it's recording, there's a lot of
talk being bandied about about direct payment relief efforts to
citizens that need it, to everybody. Hopefully, UM, we don't
know what that's going to look like, but hopefully that
is something that comes together sooner than later. UM. I
just wanna debunk the China virus thing that is so
(45:37):
uh racistly being said, and I just would like to
do Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm hoping that a lot
of our listeners already know this is not the China
virus we made at that point of origin. We've mentioned
there a week or two ago, even when Tucker Carlson
was talking, We've talked about this. Yeah, I think just
because that's what Trump was saying today. Yeah, this is
(46:01):
this is not this is not from China. This is
a US government bioweapon that we sold to China so
that they could suppress descent and spark the on rushing
of a new world order, which is all being orchestrated
by the Venusians, UM, who are behind all of the
things that go wrong. In society is aliens from venus
(46:21):
and this is all, you know, very clear and documented.
I have a lot of info Wars links that actually
I'd like to I'd like to to put up at
the end, so we'll we'll throw those up on Como
wars dot com to get your best info. Did you
know that toothpaste with silver in it will stop you
from getting the coronavirus? I did hear that from the
internet from Alex Jones. I love that guy. Yeah, uses
(46:44):
toothpaste and you're fine. And lastly, something that I know
that a lot of us have dealt with recently is
how do we talk to our parents about this? And
how do we talk to you know, people that are
in their fifties, sixties, seventies about this who don't seem
to be taking it as seriously, or even people that
are millennials that are Yeah, I mean, I think about it.
(47:08):
You have to present them with all the information, and
it's difficult because you cannot force people to do something
they don't want to do, but you just have to
keep reminding them, uh and being diligent. My mom is
mad at me for harping on it. I'm going to
keep harping on it. I you know, yeah, I think
you should keep harping on it. I do think this
is not necessarily a bad time. And obviously this is
(47:30):
a difficult thing to contemplate doing, but not a bad
time to make ultimatums to your parents to say, I
will not see you during the holidays. I will not
see you during like that if you are not if
you do not take care of yourself during this and
follow the advisement, this is that critical to me. I
cannot um uh like that is something a place where
you have leveraged. They love you and they want to
(47:52):
see you, and you're not doing this to be a dick.
You're doing this to keep them from dying. And maybe
this is going to be a time for some of
us to make ultimatums to our family. I will not
communicate with you if you are not taking this seriously
and being safe, And that sucks to do, but it
might be necessary this time, a time when you want
to be there for each other and for them specifically.
(48:13):
But the whole point is that we can't. Yeah, um, Robert,
I do want to hear what you you have to
say about guns while we have the remaining time, because
I know that I already reached out to you for
your advice and it was very helpful. I I don't know,
I have not made a decision about that, but you know,
there's been some conversations about maybe maybe it would be
(48:34):
helpful to own a firearm. You are one of a
number of people who, um, I think is generally has
generally been pretty anti gun who reached out to me
saying I either saying I'm going to buy a gun,
or I want to buy a gun, or should I
buy a gun. Yeah, I'm just considering if this is
the time or not. This is not the time to
buy the guns that everyone is buy like right now,
(48:57):
m A R fifteens are selling out of store, so
our handguns and defensive shotguns. The ammunition that a R
fifteen tend to fire five point five six or two
to three. It's essentially the same bullet that is out
of stock. Nine millimeter is out of stock. Um, you
can still get three O eight at a pretty reasonable price,
which is a larger caliber. It's also seven sixty. These
(49:18):
are the most common calibers and the ones that are
selling like fucking hotcakes. UM, do not buy one of
these firearms right now. For one thing, depending on where
you are, they're probably not available. I also don't think
that you should contribute to the panic buying of mass
amounts of ammunition. Um what you should consider buying if
you want to so the first thing I will tell people.
(49:40):
If you decide that this has convinced you that actually
you want to be a gun owner and having a
firearm is something you want, you want to have that option,
what you should first do is purchase a twenty two
caliber rifle. There's also twenty two caliber handguns. Both are good.
I would recommend a rifle. You do not need to
go to a gun store for this. In most states,
you can buy them at pawn shops. The one near
(50:02):
my house currently has eight or nine for sale, most
of which are a hundred dollars, all of which are
less than two hundred dollars. You can get a scoped.
There's a scoped Marlin at the store in my house
for like a hundred and fifty bucks with scope already
on it. Twenty two is cheap. You can get a
thousand rounds for forty or fifty bucks, which means it's
cheap to train with. It is cheap to build skill with,
and most importantly in a actual collapse situation, a twenty
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two is the caliber you want to be using to
hunt small game like squirrels, like rabbits, like other small
animals that will provide you and your family with protein.
It is cheap to use. You can get enough AMMO
to be set up and you can hunt small game
with a gun like that, and it will be very inexpensive.
And what I would say, maybe now is a good
time to pick up a twenty two if you decide
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this is something you want in your life, that you
want to own a firearm and can potentially buy more.
And once you have bought a twenty two and have
trained with it a bit and have built some time
into your life you train with it, then yes, you
should consider buying something like an a R fifteen, buying
something like a twelve gage shotgun, buying something like a
(51:08):
nine millimeter carbine or handgun. Um, but start with a
twenty two. That is when I was a little kid
in shooting, that was the gun my uncle trained me on.
It is the gun most people train on. It is affordable,
and it is also practical and a ship hits the
fan situation and if if you don't feel like you're
ready for that, maybe it's time that you downloaded Red
(51:29):
Dead Redemption to This episode is brought to you by
Red Dead Redemption. To just check it out, haunt some
small game, figure out where you feel your your skype
is blurred? Are you literally brandishing your machete? Right? No? No,
I'm done. Just just um So the other thing I
(51:51):
would say, the decision about whether or not to own
a firearm and keep one in your home is very
personal and will depend a lot on whether and you
deal with suicidal ideation if that is something you face,
if that is a regular problem in your life, I
do not recommend buying a firearm. Um. Now, there are
some options if you are someone who is in that
(52:12):
situation and you still want to train with a gun
and have the option of having one in an emergency situation.
UM An a R fifteen is a very modular gun.
You can buy a number of parts all over the
country in a symbol one yourself. There's various guides on
the internet. It is not hard to do. If you
purchase an A R fifteen and are in this situation,
you can take it apart. The top half of the
(52:35):
gun that is necessary for it to work is called
an upper receiver. Without an upper receiver, the gun will
not function. If you take your gun apart and put
the upper receiver in the hands of a friend you trust, UM,
then you will not be able to use your gun
in the event of the depressive episode. UM, and you
will have access to it to go train, and you
(52:55):
can set up a situation whereby I don't get the
full gun unless we are both together and going out
and and training. That's incredibly helpful. Yeah, that is something
you might consider, um. If you are looking for a
guide for how to shoot. A very basic guide the
Socialist Rifle Association, which I also recommend looking into because
if there's a chapter New Year House. Once this is
(53:17):
all over. They do regular range trips and you do
not have to own a gun to be a part
of it. They will teach you how to use one.
They have a book that you can find right now
for free called Rifles for Rookies, And if you just
google Socialist Rifle Association Rifles for Rookies, you will find
the pdf. We will also have the link where we're
putting all these links. It is a very simple, very
practical guide to using a rifle for the first time. UM,
(53:42):
if you decide you know, you get a twenty two,
you start training with it, UM, and you decide that
you want to continue training with firearms and you want
to prepare yourself for a worst case scenario, then I
would recommend investing in what are called NATO caliber firearms.
So there are three main calibers that are NATO caliber weapons.
What that means is that these are the calibers the
US military, most of the Western European militaries use, which
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means that the ammunition is in the highest supply. It
is all over the country. There's billions of rounds around
the world, so in the event of a disaster, it
will be the easiest type of ammo to acquire. And
the three rounds that fall into that category are nine
millimeter UM seven or seven six two by fifty one,
which is basically the same as three oh eight, which
is a very common deer hunting round. It's what you'd
(54:28):
use for a deer or an elk. It's a big
bullet um. And then there is five point five six
or two to three they're the same round. That's the
round that the a R fifteen generally fires. So if
you get a twenty two, you build time in your life,
you start training regularly for it, and you decide, I
enjoy this, this is something I want to build skill in.
I want to have this option in the event of
(54:49):
another disaster. Those are the types of weapons and calibers
you should focus on. But again, and I cannot emphasize
this enough, start with a twenty two. Do not buy
a gun if you're someone who regularly deals with suicidal ideation. Great,
that's all such incredibly helpful information, Robert, thank you so
much for compiling all that. Um. I wanted to do
(55:09):
a quick retraction from yesterday's episode when I mentioned flushable
butt wipes. I've had a lot of people reaching out
to me about flashable butt wipes. Do not use flushable
butt wipes. They are good for the pipes, pipes I mean,
(55:29):
and you can use the Let me talk a little
bit about I've spent a lot of my life in
places where there's no central government control, where there's not
things like running water, So you don't flush your butt wipes. No,
you don't. And in fact, if you're in places like Guatemala, India,
a lot of Central and South America, particularly rural areas,
you can't flush any toilet paper at all. Yeah, and
(55:52):
there will be a little trash can with a top
on it next to the toilet that you put that
stuff in and then dispose of it in the trash.
That is an option. Um. Also my option that I suggestion,
which is just hop in the shower and rense it off.
Hop in the shower. Yeah, I thought i'd hear that.
(56:12):
I'm just talking about worst case situations here. And you know,
millions billions of people around the world use either like
some sort of sponge or their hands. It's not uncommon,
it is not pleasant, But we are talking about a disaster,
and let's let's deal with this reality. This is the
We can also just go outside and drag it in
the grass like your dog does. Yeah, there are options,
(56:34):
and disasters are not the time for us to all
focus on being nice and sparkly. These are yeah, these
aren't These aren't fancy times, all right, aren't fancy? You
might have to poop in a hole, so deal with it. Um, Guys,
Like we've mentioned a couple of times, we're going to
be releasing content all week. So if you have not
(56:56):
subscribed to our other shows, it might be a good time.
We will be on Bastard's UH pod with Robert this week,
and Robert will be with us on even More News.
So UH now is as good at time as any
to subscribe to all of those feeds that you can
even more news. That sounds like a great place to
get even more news, you know what. Yeah, well it's
(57:18):
the first and only news podcast, So if news is
your thing, then that's what we bring literally no other options.
And also also Robert and I have another show with
the trailer dropping on tomorrow. Yeah, Robert, let's talk about
the Women's war. It's called Yeah, it's about what I
(57:40):
found when I went to Syria, a place in northeast
Syria called Rojava Um, which is a place where the
government collapsed and people found themselves having to deal with
the situation and build a system that could take care
of them and protect them. And they were very successful um.
And even though they're facing an invasion by the second
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largest army in NATO, they're still hanging in there, um,
not without difficulty, unbed, not interested. The things that they
did to survive and the things that I found there,
I think people might find useful specifically right now, so
whatever you say. Also, Dane Edits that show as well.
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Just want to give Daniel a shout out a whole
and as you know, anything Daniel Edits has the same
powerful erotic energy, so I do want to empty great
now we're all horny again. Thanks for your fuck energy.
Check us out online at Worst Year Pod, on Twitter
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We're not going anywhere, um and I hope you're all
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what you're doing, if you're if you're forming an organization
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want to be able to share those stories, and we're
looking at a way to make that a regular part
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of the show, where we talk about how people are
getting through this and provide guides. So please hit us up.
We will absolutely amplify that this This podcast was supposed
to be all about the election, but it's becoming about
a lot more than that. So we're here for this
journey with you guys. Who knows, if you do something
that we find interesting enough or important enough, your voice
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might soon get the same unbelievably erotic treatment that Daniel
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