June 19, 2024 • 29 mins
Jeff and I had the opportunity to sit down with the former AEW TNT Champion, Adam Copeland, who introduced us to his innovative fitness initiative, Pure Plank. As June marks Men’s Mental Health Awareness Month, we delved into the crucial role of physical exercise in supporting mental well-being and its benefits extending far beyond.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I started planking because I thought I used to love planking.
It's body weight. That's a good way to dip my
toes back into my physical fitness. That then kind of
pushed the door open to diet. That then pushed the
door open to working out again because the endorphins that dopamine,
you're starting to feel like you again, like you talked about,
helped with my mental fitness and.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now your mate. Events introducing the hosts are Wrestling Within Freddy,
Chef Died and for Ready Prince Tune. Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome back to a brand new episode of Wrestling with Freddy,
Wrestling with Friends today, because we have not one, but
two homies. We have with me as always, my co host,
(00:44):
mister Jeff Did and our guest who I want to
get right into. You've known him by multiple names. I
now know him as the Flying Viking. Yah. Mister Adam
Copeland has joined the show and it's pleasure to have
you here, sir. How you doing well?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Thank you for having me. I'm glad you didn't go
down the list of names because I'm sure there's been
a lot over the years that might not fly.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, yeah, all you know, I I'm playing hurt today
and I blew out my back trying to get big
and strong like you and all your friends. So I
was unable to pick up a piece of equipment that
you have helped develop, and you and Christian are out
with now called the pure plank. But when I talk
(01:30):
about the importance of mental health, because this is Men's
Mental Health Month, I think it should probably be focused
on about twelve months a year instead of just one.
But physical fitness is so directly connected to mental health,
this seems like a nice segue for us to talk
about pure plank and how I can protect my core
from getting fucked up against I just.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
From throwing this shit out again. So you know, Jane
and I did develop this thing. Christian and I, you know,
we we He had an idea after I kind of
showed him how I started to get back in shape,
and it really was it was for those reasons I'd
throw my back out. I have two toddlers, So for
about four years, I'm walking bent over with the pinkies.
(02:15):
You know how that is? Right? Your lower back goes weight, dude,
and then all of a sudden you got a gut
and I'm sitting two sixty and I'm getting tired walking
up the stairs, and I was like, Okay, I gotta
do something here because I gotta be around for these kids.
I had kids later in life, you know. So I
started planking because I thought I used to love planking.
It's body weight. That's a good way to dip my
(02:35):
toes back into my physical fitness. So then that then
kind of pushed the door open to diet. That then
pushed the door open to working out again because the
endorphins that dopamine you're starting to feel like you again,
right like you talked about, helped with my mental fitness,
which is kind of where it almost needs to start.
(02:57):
In a way. You gotta realize there's something up and
you got to make some changes. And that's what I did.
And then I was going down to Jay's because it
was getting ready to come back. And then we're doing
the stuff with the trough canfield and everything, and during
the pandemic, and he said, how you getting your abs back?
I was like, honestly, I started with planking. He goes,
come on, come on, whatever, So I said, well, you know,
(03:20):
do one. So we go out in his garage and
he's doing it. He gets about twenty seconds and he's shaken.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was like, yeah, man, it humbles you quick. It
humbles you.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Quick because everything's engaged, you know, kind of from your
chin down. Everything needs to be engaged. So then we
started talking about it and he started doing research and
he's looking at is there anything on the market for this,
Like he immediately went to, there's a way to make
this better, you know, make it better for people who
(03:48):
are a little bit beat up, who who have sore elbows,
who have sore wrists, who have sore shoulders, who have
multiple surgeries, who have bad backs, or you know, women
who have just had c sections or on postpartum herd
and trying to get your core back. And Beth will
be the first one to talk about this, it's such
(04:09):
a battle. Yeah, because for women when they when they
get pregnant, like their ab muscles expand and might I
can't even imagine trying to get your core back after that. Yeah, man,
but we thought this might be another another tool to
be able to help with that. Here we are kind
of like three and a half years later, and the
products out and we keep selling out, and I you
(04:32):
know it. All I can say is from my own
personal experience. When I started with that, it strengthened my core.
And after I strengthened my core, everything else followed.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, Sarah is picking up ours today at our at
our po box, so I will have it very soon. Jeff,
go ahead, because I promise alhol the whole time that
we have this man, So please get something in there.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I've been sitting here like a little kid, going when
do I get de tucked to edge?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
When do I get de tucked to edge?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
What is this?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
We're I'm a big fan. We're big fans. Everyone's a
big fan. You've had an incredible career. You know that
it's not even close to over yet, but you've gotten
to perform all over the joint, right, You've been everywhere
you've had You've got to be in the best eras
of wrestling. We don't know what the future will hold,
but I mean we can confidently say you've been in
the best parts, the best eras of wrestling, best time
(05:22):
in my opinion, Is there any venues you haven't played
that are on your bucket list?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yes? Yes? And and really the regret that I have
in this injury happened happening when it has was Wembley Stadium. Ah,
I was really really pumped for Wembley because throughout everything
and all the different venues I've been and all the like,
even all the dumps that I've wrestled, or the barmbs
(05:49):
that I've wrestled in, or the you know, just whatever, right, Wembley, Man,
Like I just think of Freddie Mercury, I think a queen.
That's where I go, and it's like, oh, Wembley, I
can't wait. Wow, I'm gonna have to wait longer, so
that one Okay, Arena Mexico. I've always wanted to wrestle
(06:12):
Arena Mexico always, and and I remember once I went
there when I was world champ and I put on
a Lucha mask and I went to Arena Mexico show
and I sat in the second row and nobody had
an idea.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, I love that way.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I had a Mephisto mask on. I just it was
so much fun and just just the look of it
and the feel of it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And Adam, whenever I go to wrestling in Mexico, I
don't wear a mask, and people don't recognize me either.
They don't have anything with no mask or mask. They
have no idea that it's me.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You know, I didn't want to be one of those
guys that showed up and and then all of a sudden,
it's like, I don't want to take away from the
show at all. So I was like, it'd be fun
to wear a Lucha masks.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Wanted to sho you'd have been more famous if you
wore La Park.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Because I heard those guys are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, let me ask you something, because wrestling evolves and
artists evolve, and you're an artist. You've done it in
the ring, out of the ring, behind cameras, in front
of cameras, like, you've done a lot of stuff at
this point. But I saw something in your work near
the end of your time at WWE where it almost
(07:23):
looked like parts of the match looked like scenes from
movies to me, Like, and I hadn't really when you
and I got to work to you. When I was
lucky enough to get to work with you back in
the day, wrestling was much much different and I didn't
really see that side of you come out, but I've
seen it come out a lot since then. Is that
something that I'm I'm first of all, am I right?
(07:45):
Or have you always been doing this or where did
this come from? Because I love it. I remember the
Damien Priest match when you were in the Toronto Get Up,
and there were segments in that match where I was like, dude,
I'm watching a Jackie Chan fight. This is crazy, Like
it looks so crisp and so clean. I'm just wondering
was that a conscious thing or have you always been
doing that?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I think it became more pronounced after I came back
this time, and I truly think it was from the
amount of the television that I did, you know, outside
of the wrestling bubble. You know, when I was forced
to retire in twenty eleven, Right, so I get the
Haven gig by accident, right, So that from one episode
(08:39):
turns into forty one, and then from there it's like, Okay,
I really like this and I enjoy it. Now I'm
taking acting classes and I can't wrestle, So what do
I do that still taps that creative ving well acting does.
And it was about the fourth episode in I was like,
I'm really falling in love with this. And because my
only thing ever I want to be a wrestler, that
(09:01):
is it. I had no aspirations of being act or
being anything else but a professional wrestler. But you tell
me I can't do that, Okay, Well that I got
to wrap my mind around it. And then as I
started acting, I said, oh, I don't want to I
don't want to suck. But I don't know what I'm doing.
You know, I have some I guess training from wrestling
(09:22):
because there's some similarities. It's the same tree, it's different branches,
I've always said. But for me, I just wanted to
get better at it and feel more comfortable, I guess
really more than anything, and have the confidence to walk
on a set for the first time and go Okay,
I got this. So then Vikings comes along, yeah, and
comes along. And throughout all of that time, I think
while I was retired, I end up doing over one
(09:42):
hundred episodes of television and from that that's sick.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I know, I really do.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah. It snuck up on me too, honestly, and I
didn't fully grasp what I learned and what I took
with me until I got back to wrestling. And then
in coming back to wrestling and the pandemic hitting, I
was like, oh, okay, it can't be a wrestling promo anymore.
Now it's a monologue.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yes, yes, dude, yes.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Now it's a monologue. And now they're going to hear
all of the things that I choose to do, and
they're going to see all the choices I make instead
of what or whatever it is right now now they're
whoever's still watching at this point, you know, during a pandemic.
Now they can see the subtleties. Now I can play
(10:31):
with that stuff. Now it doesn't need to be all
massive and big to play to an audience that's a
football field away. Yeah, Now it's just bam bam, and
I can play with that. And I had so much
fun in doing that, and even in putting that into
matches and making sure that there's there's moments like with
(10:52):
the Equip match with Finn Balor. I wanted to make
that a movie.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, dude, that was wanted crazy. I love that match.
I'm so glad you brought that up, dude. It that
was one way to make you quit, the only way
to make you quit.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And I wanted that final ten minutes to be the
end of that movie where the good guys don't win
and the bad guys walk out of it, like with
just Still like being even worse, you know, and just
the handcuffing and all that stuff was like, we can
make this, Like I don't know, pick a movie, but
there's those certain movies where there's a gang and there's
(11:25):
a husband and the wife and they are trying their
best to defend their family, but it just doesn't work.
And that was the story that we're trying to get
across there.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, it's like that moment in RoboCop where he's still
just the regular cop and you're like, oh, he'll save
the day. Oh no, he's going to get shot to hell.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, and you don't really see it coming either, you know,
like on paper, baby Face doesn't lose an eye quit match. Yeah,
that doesn't happen. Like I don't think it's ever happened.
I think it might have been the first baby Face
to lose an eye quick match. I don't know, maybe
I'm wrong, but it the way we're able to put
that one together, the way that you know, the you know,
(12:06):
Finn and Damian Dom and Rhea and then Beth. I
was just so watching it as I'm handcuffed. I was
so excited, like seeing Beth and Rhea come nose to
nose and seeing the crowd come up, I was like,
oh yes, because yeah, I've always wanted to see those
two face to face.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So it was so cool to see the different generations
come come at each other like that. It's those types
of moments in wrestling, and they always happen because wrestling,
you can wrestle until you get much older. It's not
like boxing or something like or tennis something that something
like that, so you can get to have those moments.
And that was one that the crowd really was excited for.
They got really really hot.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
For it, really been into that one. And then it
all depends on whoever's booking, like did they see it?
Because if they don't see it, then it ain't gonna happen,
you know, because there's a lot of things that I
think get get swept away that you know, I always
got told well rest they don't remember now they remember stuff,
you know. I think wrestling fans, I think any you know,
(13:06):
whether it's I don't know, Back to the Future fans.
They're like a name of fandom. People remember I have
I have the Back to the Future two PEPSI bottle
to the left of me, Like right now, we remember
ship we remember, right. So the other night I watched
Goonies with the girls, and I was reciting the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
That movie holds up. Not all of them hold up.
That movie holds up for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Like slap Shot, as much as I love it, you
watch it now, It's.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Like, I know, Caddy Shack feels a little oil rough.
There's a lot of them that feel a little rough.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
But Goonies holds up for sure. No Goonies holds up
for sure. Jeff, jump in there. Look how generous I am.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I'm not loving sharing edge with men.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It means a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, And also to speak what you guys are just
speaking about. Like, but people do remember, especially wrestling fans,
and in baseball, you don't always get the you don't
ever get to see like the the legends of a
different time, the new times. But in wrestling you can
do that because of how sports entertainment works, Like you know,
you versus Undertaker in SummerSlam, or when you you versus
(14:09):
Fully with wrestlming to twenty two, Like there's a lot
of like where we kind of get to see it
and they make it happen, and those are huge moments.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You know, I get to wrestle Terry Funk.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, he's pretty sweet.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
No, And I love Terry Funk. I you know, like
from Road he was one of the Yeah, and he
was one of the first performers that actually made me
afraid as a kid, where I was like he he
induced something in me that I went but I couldn't
stop watching. And then you come to find out, Oh,
he's a really fucking great at his job because.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
He's a sweet guy. He's a really sweet speaking of fear,
all right. So I get weird fans in my industry.
I know Freddy gets weird fans in his industry. I'm
a stand up comedian, he's an actor, But wrestling fans
are a different kind of weird. I want to know,
what's the weirdest thing a fan has ever get or
maybe done that you're like, oh boy, this was this
(15:03):
was a memorable one.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know. Like I think over the years, people have
become a little more it's become a little more normalized,
like I guess, and but I distinctly remember one guy
coming up to me. I had just flown in or something.
I was meeting a couple of buddies of Perkins. I
had to hit the head, right. So I go in
there and I'm in a stall and a dude reaches
(15:27):
a piece of paper underneath, and I just thought, like, man,
if you could pick a worse I really don't know
what it would be like I and I so badly
just wanted to stomp on the paper and and like
piss on it. But I'm like, Nope, I'm not going
to do that. I'll sign it. But I also got
(15:50):
to give him a.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
PSA, yeah, a little lecture.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, this is not the way to go.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
About a stall to stalls, Yes, unless that paper says
do you have any toilet paper? There's none in this stall.
You know that there's no other reason to do that.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yet I don't have a spared.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's right, That's right.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So the weirdest you reminded me of weirdness. I was
in the Vancouver Airport, one of my favorite cities in
the world, Vancouver, and I love it up there and
Whistler's awesome. And I was waiting to fly home from
a job and I had like a delicious breakfast sandwich
from like the little airport place I was getting ready
to tear into and this girl comes up to me
(16:34):
and she goes, excuse me. And this was like right
after I know you did last summer, so it's like
right when things happened. So I wasn't prepared. I gotta
have that caveat in there, and I go. She goes,
are you Freddy Brins Junior? And I go yeah, yeah.
I get like real shy with that stuff, so I'm like, yeah, yeah,
it's me, and she goes, it's him, and she screamed,
and these three other Canadian girls roll up and grab
(16:57):
my sandwich and take off just the sandwich. They didn't
ask for an autograph, didn't ask for a picture. I
just took the sandwich, was hungry and started squealing and
running away, and I was like, Yo, what the hell
just happened. That's the worst. This is like the weirdest
thing that ever happened to me.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But yeah, it wasn't so much steal my food. You know.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I was just in Chicago and Samoa Joe was there
and a guy fainted in front of Samoa, so it
was it was real for that guy in that moment,
like and I saw it happening. The guy started shaking
and then all of a sudden, like guys were like
no hold on, Buddy hold on, and he just fainted
because it was just too big. He just wasn't ready
for the moment.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Man, he wasn't ready at all at all.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I thought he was ready, he thought he was ready,
but he was not ready for the Joe Man.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Real quick that I had. I just said, wrestling fans
are weird. Wrestling fans are the best. I do want
to say that they're the best, but they do have
a sense of They're not like other fans, is all
I was trying to say. I didn't want to look.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Wrestling fans are willing to put a tattoo of Michael
ps Hayes on their leg and send a picture of it.
That's that's loyalty, beyond loyalty, beyond loyalty.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I will also say, though, like I'm a may ple
Lfe fan, there's may ple lice fans just as crazy
about the maple leafs. Said, you know, any fandom has that,
and and I mean, that's what you want, absolutely, because
that that means people are are picking up what's putting down,
you know, they they are invested in this thing. And
(18:24):
and so that's why I've learned over the years to
like be thankful for it for sure, because if I'm
not and I start looking down my nose at it, well,
then why should they still be a fan? What I
don't understand, And you know, I've had these discussions and
I'm like, is this this fandom of initials of a
(18:45):
certain company, but you can't go and watch another like that?
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
We talk about that on the show. Yeah, I watch
it everything. When I was a kid, as we have
everything I could consume that was wrestling with my grandma
and Puerto Rico record everything for me and I would
just sit down and watch NWA, WWF, WCW like it
didn't matter. Anything she could record, she would record, and
I would watch it like it's all great.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I just loved it all, you know. And I wanted
to see guys that I wouldn't necessarily get to get
my eyeballs on, or i'd just see in the bill
after magazines, you know. I wanted to be able to
see more Rick Flair. I wanted to see what the
Four Horsemen.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Were all about.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's where I grew up was a very WWF centric place,
but I could still get international out of Montreal BC
All Star Wrestling. I could get Stampede wrestling. So I
still get all these different places, and I'm so thankful
I did because I saw the beginning of Owen Heart's career.
I saw the beginning of Brian Pillman's career, I saw
the beginning of Jusian Leiger's career. Is one half of
(19:45):
the be It Kong Express.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Like what Yeah Express?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think Hasse was the other member. So, like, you
grow up and you see these guys start their careers
and then let alone when like the veterans would roll
through town, like with International, if Rick Martel came in,
he was defining the AWA titles. Man, Like, I just
had a blast growing up watching wrestling. It was what
(20:12):
got me through some you know what I think is
for everyone some pretty tumultuous years in terms of like
emotionals and hormones and all that stuff. I had wrestling
and I had music.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
We predicted on this podcast that you would not go
to a w We were like, I mean, I thought
there was zero chance you'd go to AW.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So I was on the same page with that. But
the way you what you just described completely explains why
you were able to make that shift. How difficult of
a choice was that sorry to jump in j No, no,
that's the same question and steal everything. But how was
was it a more challenging decision than you thought? Or
(21:08):
was it? Look, I love to wrestle, this is just
a different canvas and I'm gonna go paint.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That was really what it boiled down to. And I
just thought of all the paints I'd have at my disposal.
And I also knew that I would be needed for more,
which which was really enticing, you know I And this
is I can always preface everything with this. This is
not a knock on the WWE. But I was breakflass.
(21:36):
In case of emergency or we need something for this,
let's call at him again. And it's every three months,
or it's every four months, or maybe there's a little
story here, but then it's gone again, and then it's
back again. I became the king of the comeback. And
it almost became like farcical. You know, it happened so
many times. So I looked over there, and I looked
(21:58):
at the roster and Jay there, you know, so get
to work on my best friend. And that's the only
way this is going to happen is if I go there.
But then again, I looked at the roster and I
just started salvating because I'm like, man, talk about a
blank canvas and talk about like a brand new palette
to work with. Moxley, Claudium, Danielson, MJF J White, Samoa,
(22:21):
Joe and I have never worked each other. Like that's
insane to me. That's wild. It's wild, right, the young
bucks FTR. Like that's off the top of my head, and.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's yes, we didn't even mention swerve to change. Yeah,
like we didn't even they deep rosterate. Guys, you haven't
touched yet.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, And since I've been there, you know, to be
able to get with Pento one week and then Suzuki
another week, and then in the same week do a
street fight with Brody King and then do a technical
match with Kyle O'Reilly two days later, Like that to
me is super fun because at this stage of my career,
at this age, you need new challenges to you know,
to spark you. From the day I walked in there,
(23:00):
I've just been like, I feel like a little kid
in the candy store.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You did some cinematic shit with O'Reilly too, when you
guys had that match. You guys did did some stuff
where I was like, that's straight out of the movies
right there.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, I love going to do that, man. I love
when you do it. I've seen other wrestlers take from
that now and I've seen them start to add it
to their repertoire, like little by little because they've seen
it work at a high level when you pulled it off,
and maybe other guys were doing it, but I'm just
now noticing it with my somewhat trained eyes.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So Randy has always done it, and it's just making
sure to build those moments. But you can't just do them.
You got to build to them. And if you don't
have the time, well then it's not going to work.
So it's really just it needs to be the right opponent,
it needs to be the right scenario, it needs to
be the right amount of time to be able to
(23:54):
really pull it off. Thankfully, at this stage, I'm given
the time to be able to paint those moments and
be a part of, you know, kind of constructing that.
And with Kyle, it's like it's his hometown. It's just
twenty years after he watched his first match in that
arena with his dad and I was on the show.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
What I didn't know that that me have said that
in commentary, but I don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
That's wild and his dad came to this show and
his family was there, So it's all it all. It
really rights itself so that you can get some real
moments in there. And for me, the goal is always
to have the audience believe this guy's going to lose
the title. And I love that about guys like Rick
Flair where Nightly, I didn't know if he was going
(24:40):
to walk out with the title. Like Sean Michaels, I
didn't know if he was going to walk out with them.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Because y'all take such a beating man well and it
makes me think, oh shit, this is the time he's
gonna lose.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And if you can paint it right, hopefully, you know,
there's no reason that a cold match me and O'Reilly,
you know, should have people really thinking, Okay, he's going
to drop this title on an episode of Collision. But
I think about halfway through they started buying into this idea.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You and Randy have always been great at that and
making people think, no matter who it is, oh shit,
alway is he gonna win?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
No, he's not. And there's the Arcado when he got him.
But there's always like you guys were always good at that,
the veterans that you that you too.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Now we are.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, but that's right, buddy.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You're a veteran.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I will say, does it bother you? Guys like me
are still calling you Edge? I can't stop doing it.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
It's one of those deals like I've never introduced myself
as Edge. I've never called myself Edge, you know what
I mean? So for me, I just go, well, I mean,
I play a character. I played a character named Edge. Yeah,
but I still played a character named Flatino.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Right, Yeah, you know you don't call my wife Buffy,
you call her Sarah, call him Adam, dude. I know
it's hard for my brains.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Wow, it's hard for my brain though, because we be
wrestling is different for me than a movie script or
a TV show. It's like I used to date a wrestler.
She'd be like, Oh, we're gonna go, Mark's gonna be there,
and like, all right, big deal?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Who was Mark?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And then we get there and it's like Undertaker. I'm like,
why didn't you tell me like that? Like she I
didn't tell you, I think it's closer.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
To like a really successful sitcom like Michael Richard is
probably always going to be absolutely and and Jennifer Anderson's
some people are always going to call it Rachel right,
is just one of those things. So yeah, I mean
that means people watch, That means something I did stuck
with and that's a compliment.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, throws people off, well, like hul Hulk Hogan, you
know you like he's skill, I'm Darry You're Hulk, all right,
That's just how.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
That I'm always going to see and hear you as that.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, how much longer are you going to be hurt?
What can you even talk about it yet? Is it
too yearly Ton't even know.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Only what I know is that it's non weight bearing
for eight to ten weeks, which is far the most
frustrating part. But this is the same leg that I
tore my achilles on, so I know I kind of
know what it is, and it's just a whole lot
of doing nothing and first except healing, that's your job.
Once I get walking again, that's when I can have
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a better gauge of like, oh, this is going to
be a six month this is going to be an
eight month I guess it was just a bad area.
You never want to break your leg, but it was like,
is there a good a good area. It was not
a good leg break, but it was just above the
ankle joint, which I guess is called a pelon fracture.
So there's more that comes into it in terms of
(27:38):
the healing process, you know, with a tissue with the
blood flow. And I'm fifty, right, so I have to
be a realist and understand that my body is going
to play some limitations, you know, on myself that just
weren't there before, hence why I got hurt. I truly
think when I was thirty, I could have pulled it off.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
One hundred percent. Man, the artist mind is young. It's
it's just the body that ages. But the artist's mine
stays young. You're always trying to come up with new
crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Right absolutely, you know. So now it was it was
tough lesson to learn, but I learned it well.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Listen, man, thank you for doing the show. You guys
can get the pure Plank at gopureplank dot com and
make them sell out again, because they keep selling out.
I got to get my ass on it, so I
can stop getting injuries. Appreciate you being a part of
this show. Thank you for always being so cool. Thank
you for being cool when crazy storylines were pitched at
you when we work together back in the day, and
(28:34):
always making shit work. And I'm so glad to see
you having so much fun today even though you're hitting
your best friend of the nuts with a barbed wire
baseball pad. You psychopath or at least threatening to Jesus,
it was coming to.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
A thud.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
There was a thud, all right. Thanks for doing the
show on behalf of Jeff Die and the great Adam Copeland.
I'm Freddie Prince Junior. Thank you, guys, and we'll see
you on Thursday for our unsanctioned episode and every single
Wednesday for wrestling with Freddy Peace. This has been a
production of Iheart'smichael Toura podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,
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visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen
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I started planking because I thought I used to love planking.
It's body weight. That's a good way to dip my
toes back into my physical fitness. That then kind of
pushed the door open to diet. That then pushed the
door open to working out again because the endorphins that dopamine,
you're starting to feel like you again, like you talked about,
helped with my mental fitness and.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now your mate. Events introducing the hosts are Wrestling Within Freddy,
Chef Died and for Ready Prince Tune. Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome back to a brand new episode of Wrestling with Freddy,
Wrestling with Friends today, because we have not one, but
two homies. We have with me as always, my co host,
(00:44):
mister Jeff Did and our guest who I want to
get right into. You've known him by multiple names. I
now know him as the Flying Viking. Yah. Mister Adam
Copeland has joined the show and it's pleasure to have
you here, sir. How you doing well?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Thank you for having me. I'm glad you didn't go
down the list of names because I'm sure there's been
a lot over the years that might not fly.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, yeah, all you know, I I'm playing hurt today
and I blew out my back trying to get big
and strong like you and all your friends. So I
was unable to pick up a piece of equipment that
you have helped develop, and you and Christian are out
with now called the pure plank. But when I talk
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about the importance of mental health, because this is Men's
Mental Health Month, I think it should probably be focused
on about twelve months a year instead of just one.
But physical fitness is so directly connected to mental health,
this seems like a nice segue for us to talk
about pure plank and how I can protect my core
from getting fucked up against I just.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
From throwing this shit out again. So you know, Jane
and I did develop this thing. Christian and I, you know,
we we He had an idea after I kind of
showed him how I started to get back in shape,
and it really was it was for those reasons I'd
throw my back out. I have two toddlers, So for
about four years, I'm walking bent over with the pinkies.
(02:15):
You know how that is? Right? Your lower back goes weight, dude,
and then all of a sudden you got a gut
and I'm sitting two sixty and I'm getting tired walking
up the stairs, and I was like, Okay, I gotta
do something here because I gotta be around for these kids.
I had kids later in life, you know. So I
started planking because I thought I used to love planking.
It's body weight. That's a good way to dip my
(02:35):
toes back into my physical fitness. So then that then
kind of pushed the door open to diet. That then
pushed the door open to working out again because the
endorphins that dopamine you're starting to feel like you again,
right like you talked about, helped with my mental fitness,
which is kind of where it almost needs to start.
(02:57):
In a way. You gotta realize there's something up and
you got to make some changes. And that's what I did.
And then I was going down to Jay's because it
was getting ready to come back. And then we're doing
the stuff with the trough canfield and everything, and during
the pandemic, and he said, how you getting your abs back?
I was like, honestly, I started with planking. He goes,
come on, come on, whatever, So I said, well, you know,
(03:20):
do one. So we go out in his garage and
he's doing it. He gets about twenty seconds and he's shaken.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was like, yeah, man, it humbles you quick. It
humbles you.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Quick because everything's engaged, you know, kind of from your
chin down. Everything needs to be engaged. So then we
started talking about it and he started doing research and
he's looking at is there anything on the market for this,
Like he immediately went to, there's a way to make
this better, you know, make it better for people who
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are a little bit beat up, who who have sore elbows,
who have sore wrists, who have sore shoulders, who have
multiple surgeries, who have bad backs, or you know, women
who have just had c sections or on postpartum herd
and trying to get your core back. And Beth will
be the first one to talk about this, it's such
(04:09):
a battle. Yeah, because for women when they when they
get pregnant, like their ab muscles expand and might I
can't even imagine trying to get your core back after that. Yeah, man,
but we thought this might be another another tool to
be able to help with that. Here we are kind
of like three and a half years later, and the
products out and we keep selling out, and I you
(04:32):
know it. All I can say is from my own
personal experience. When I started with that, it strengthened my core.
And after I strengthened my core, everything else followed.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, Sarah is picking up ours today at our at
our po box, so I will have it very soon. Jeff,
go ahead, because I promise alhol the whole time that
we have this man, So please get something in there.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I've been sitting here like a little kid, going when
do I get de tucked to edge?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
When do I get de tucked to edge?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
What is this?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
We're I'm a big fan. We're big fans. Everyone's a
big fan. You've had an incredible career. You know that
it's not even close to over yet, but you've gotten
to perform all over the joint, right, You've been everywhere
you've had You've got to be in the best eras
of wrestling. We don't know what the future will hold,
but I mean we can confidently say you've been in
the best parts, the best eras of wrestling, best time
(05:22):
in my opinion, Is there any venues you haven't played
that are on your bucket list?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yes? Yes? And and really the regret that I have
in this injury happened happening when it has was Wembley Stadium. Ah,
I was really really pumped for Wembley because throughout everything
and all the different venues I've been and all the like,
even all the dumps that I've wrestled, or the barmbs
(05:49):
that I've wrestled in, or the you know, just whatever, right, Wembley, Man,
Like I just think of Freddie Mercury, I think a queen.
That's where I go, and it's like, oh, Wembley, I
can't wait. Wow, I'm gonna have to wait longer, so
that one Okay, Arena Mexico. I've always wanted to wrestle
(06:12):
Arena Mexico always, and and I remember once I went
there when I was world champ and I put on
a Lucha mask and I went to Arena Mexico show
and I sat in the second row and nobody had
an idea.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, I love that way.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I had a Mephisto mask on. I just it was
so much fun and just just the look of it
and the feel of it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And Adam, whenever I go to wrestling in Mexico, I
don't wear a mask, and people don't recognize me either.
They don't have anything with no mask or mask. They
have no idea that it's me.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You know, I didn't want to be one of those
guys that showed up and and then all of a sudden,
it's like, I don't want to take away from the
show at all. So I was like, it'd be fun
to wear a Lucha masks.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Wanted to sho you'd have been more famous if you
wore La Park.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Because I heard those guys are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, let me ask you something, because wrestling evolves and
artists evolve, and you're an artist. You've done it in
the ring, out of the ring, behind cameras, in front
of cameras, like, you've done a lot of stuff at
this point. But I saw something in your work near
the end of your time at WWE where it almost
(07:23):
looked like parts of the match looked like scenes from
movies to me, Like, and I hadn't really when you
and I got to work to you. When I was
lucky enough to get to work with you back in
the day, wrestling was much much different and I didn't
really see that side of you come out, but I've
seen it come out a lot since then. Is that
something that I'm I'm first of all, am I right?
(07:45):
Or have you always been doing this or where did
this come from? Because I love it. I remember the
Damien Priest match when you were in the Toronto Get Up,
and there were segments in that match where I was like, dude,
I'm watching a Jackie Chan fight. This is crazy, Like
it looks so crisp and so clean. I'm just wondering
was that a conscious thing or have you always been
doing that?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I think it became more pronounced after I came back
this time, and I truly think it was from the
amount of the television that I did, you know, outside
of the wrestling bubble. You know, when I was forced
to retire in twenty eleven, Right, so I get the
Haven gig by accident, right, So that from one episode
(08:39):
turns into forty one, and then from there it's like, Okay,
I really like this and I enjoy it. Now I'm
taking acting classes and I can't wrestle, So what do
I do that still taps that creative ving well acting does.
And it was about the fourth episode in I was like,
I'm really falling in love with this. And because my
only thing ever I want to be a wrestler, that
(09:01):
is it. I had no aspirations of being act or
being anything else but a professional wrestler. But you tell
me I can't do that, Okay, Well that I got
to wrap my mind around it. And then as I
started acting, I said, oh, I don't want to I
don't want to suck. But I don't know what I'm doing.
You know, I have some I guess training from wrestling
(09:22):
because there's some similarities. It's the same tree, it's different branches,
I've always said. But for me, I just wanted to
get better at it and feel more comfortable, I guess
really more than anything, and have the confidence to walk
on a set for the first time and go Okay,
I got this. So then Vikings comes along, yeah, and
comes along. And throughout all of that time, I think
while I was retired, I end up doing over one
(09:42):
hundred episodes of television and from that that's sick.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I know, I really do.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah. It snuck up on me too, honestly, and I
didn't fully grasp what I learned and what I took
with me until I got back to wrestling. And then
in coming back to wrestling and the pandemic hitting, I
was like, oh, okay, it can't be a wrestling promo anymore.
Now it's a monologue.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yes, yes, dude, yes.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Now it's a monologue. And now they're going to hear
all of the things that I choose to do, and
they're going to see all the choices I make instead
of what or whatever it is right now now they're
whoever's still watching at this point, you know, during a pandemic.
Now they can see the subtleties. Now I can play
(10:31):
with that stuff. Now it doesn't need to be all
massive and big to play to an audience that's a
football field away. Yeah, Now it's just bam bam, and
I can play with that. And I had so much
fun in doing that, and even in putting that into
matches and making sure that there's there's moments like with
(10:52):
the Equip match with Finn Balor. I wanted to make
that a movie.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, dude, that was wanted crazy. I love that match.
I'm so glad you brought that up, dude. It that
was one way to make you quit, the only way
to make you quit.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And I wanted that final ten minutes to be the
end of that movie where the good guys don't win
and the bad guys walk out of it, like with
just Still like being even worse, you know, and just
the handcuffing and all that stuff was like, we can
make this, Like I don't know, pick a movie, but
there's those certain movies where there's a gang and there's
(11:25):
a husband and the wife and they are trying their
best to defend their family, but it just doesn't work.
And that was the story that we're trying to get
across there.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, it's like that moment in RoboCop where he's still
just the regular cop and you're like, oh, he'll save
the day. Oh no, he's going to get shot to hell.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, and you don't really see it coming either, you know,
like on paper, baby Face doesn't lose an eye quit match. Yeah,
that doesn't happen. Like I don't think it's ever happened.
I think it might have been the first baby Face
to lose an eye quick match. I don't know, maybe
I'm wrong, but it the way we're able to put
that one together, the way that you know, the you know,
(12:06):
Finn and Damian Dom and Rhea and then Beth. I
was just so watching it as I'm handcuffed. I was
so excited, like seeing Beth and Rhea come nose to
nose and seeing the crowd come up, I was like,
oh yes, because yeah, I've always wanted to see those
two face to face.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So it was so cool to see the different generations
come come at each other like that. It's those types
of moments in wrestling, and they always happen because wrestling,
you can wrestle until you get much older. It's not
like boxing or something like or tennis something that something
like that, so you can get to have those moments.
And that was one that the crowd really was excited for.
They got really really hot.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
For it, really been into that one. And then it
all depends on whoever's booking, like did they see it?
Because if they don't see it, then it ain't gonna happen,
you know, because there's a lot of things that I
think get get swept away that you know, I always
got told well rest they don't remember now they remember stuff,
you know. I think wrestling fans, I think any you know,
(13:06):
whether it's I don't know, Back to the Future fans.
They're like a name of fandom. People remember I have
I have the Back to the Future two PEPSI bottle
to the left of me, Like right now, we remember
ship we remember, right. So the other night I watched
Goonies with the girls, and I was reciting the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
That movie holds up. Not all of them hold up.
That movie holds up for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Like slap Shot, as much as I love it, you
watch it now, It's.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Like, I know, Caddy Shack feels a little oil rough.
There's a lot of them that feel a little rough.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
But Goonies holds up for sure. No Goonies holds up
for sure. Jeff, jump in there. Look how generous I am.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I'm not loving sharing edge with men.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It means a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, And also to speak what you guys are just
speaking about. Like, but people do remember, especially wrestling fans,
and in baseball, you don't always get the you don't
ever get to see like the the legends of a
different time, the new times. But in wrestling you can
do that because of how sports entertainment works, Like you know,
you versus Undertaker in SummerSlam, or when you you versus
(14:09):
Fully with wrestlming to twenty two, Like there's a lot
of like where we kind of get to see it
and they make it happen, and those are huge moments.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You know, I get to wrestle Terry Funk.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, he's pretty sweet.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
No, And I love Terry Funk. I you know, like
from Road he was one of the Yeah, and he
was one of the first performers that actually made me
afraid as a kid, where I was like he he
induced something in me that I went but I couldn't
stop watching. And then you come to find out, Oh,
he's a really fucking great at his job because.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
He's a sweet guy. He's a really sweet speaking of fear,
all right. So I get weird fans in my industry.
I know Freddy gets weird fans in his industry. I'm
a stand up comedian, he's an actor, But wrestling fans
are a different kind of weird. I want to know,
what's the weirdest thing a fan has ever get or
maybe done that you're like, oh boy, this was this
(15:03):
was a memorable one.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know. Like I think over the years, people have
become a little more it's become a little more normalized,
like I guess, and but I distinctly remember one guy
coming up to me. I had just flown in or something.
I was meeting a couple of buddies of Perkins. I
had to hit the head, right. So I go in
there and I'm in a stall and a dude reaches
(15:27):
a piece of paper underneath, and I just thought, like, man,
if you could pick a worse I really don't know
what it would be like I and I so badly
just wanted to stomp on the paper and and like
piss on it. But I'm like, Nope, I'm not going
to do that. I'll sign it. But I also got
(15:50):
to give him a.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
PSA, yeah, a little lecture.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, this is not the way to go.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
About a stall to stalls, Yes, unless that paper says
do you have any toilet paper? There's none in this stall.
You know that there's no other reason to do that.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yet I don't have a spared.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's right, That's right.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So the weirdest you reminded me of weirdness. I was
in the Vancouver Airport, one of my favorite cities in
the world, Vancouver, and I love it up there and
Whistler's awesome. And I was waiting to fly home from
a job and I had like a delicious breakfast sandwich
from like the little airport place I was getting ready
to tear into and this girl comes up to me
(16:34):
and she goes, excuse me. And this was like right
after I know you did last summer, so it's like
right when things happened. So I wasn't prepared. I gotta
have that caveat in there, and I go. She goes,
are you Freddy Brins Junior? And I go yeah, yeah.
I get like real shy with that stuff, so I'm like, yeah, yeah,
it's me, and she goes, it's him, and she screamed,
and these three other Canadian girls roll up and grab
(16:57):
my sandwich and take off just the sandwich. They didn't
ask for an autograph, didn't ask for a picture. I
just took the sandwich, was hungry and started squealing and
running away, and I was like, Yo, what the hell
just happened. That's the worst. This is like the weirdest
thing that ever happened to me.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But yeah, it wasn't so much steal my food. You know.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I was just in Chicago and Samoa Joe was there
and a guy fainted in front of Samoa, so it
was it was real for that guy in that moment,
like and I saw it happening. The guy started shaking
and then all of a sudden, like guys were like
no hold on, Buddy hold on, and he just fainted
because it was just too big. He just wasn't ready
for the moment.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Man, he wasn't ready at all at all.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I thought he was ready, he thought he was ready,
but he was not ready for the Joe Man.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Real quick that I had. I just said, wrestling fans
are weird. Wrestling fans are the best. I do want
to say that they're the best, but they do have
a sense of They're not like other fans, is all
I was trying to say. I didn't want to look.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Wrestling fans are willing to put a tattoo of Michael
ps Hayes on their leg and send a picture of it.
That's that's loyalty, beyond loyalty, beyond loyalty.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I will also say, though, like I'm a may ple
Lfe fan, there's may ple lice fans just as crazy
about the maple leafs. Said, you know, any fandom has that,
and and I mean, that's what you want, absolutely, because
that that means people are are picking up what's putting down,
you know, they they are invested in this thing. And
(18:24):
and so that's why I've learned over the years to
like be thankful for it for sure, because if I'm
not and I start looking down my nose at it, well,
then why should they still be a fan? What I
don't understand, And you know, I've had these discussions and
I'm like, is this this fandom of initials of a
(18:45):
certain company, but you can't go and watch another like that?
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
We talk about that on the show. Yeah, I watch
it everything. When I was a kid, as we have
everything I could consume that was wrestling with my grandma
and Puerto Rico record everything for me and I would
just sit down and watch NWA, WWF, WCW like it
didn't matter. Anything she could record, she would record, and
I would watch it like it's all great.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I just loved it all, you know. And I wanted
to see guys that I wouldn't necessarily get to get
my eyeballs on, or i'd just see in the bill
after magazines, you know. I wanted to be able to
see more Rick Flair. I wanted to see what the
Four Horsemen.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Were all about.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's where I grew up was a very WWF centric place,
but I could still get international out of Montreal BC
All Star Wrestling. I could get Stampede wrestling. So I
still get all these different places, and I'm so thankful
I did because I saw the beginning of Owen Heart's career.
I saw the beginning of Brian Pillman's career, I saw
the beginning of Jusian Leiger's career. Is one half of
(19:45):
the be It Kong Express.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Like what Yeah Express?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think Hasse was the other member. So, like, you
grow up and you see these guys start their careers
and then let alone when like the veterans would roll
through town, like with International, if Rick Martel came in,
he was defining the AWA titles. Man, Like, I just
had a blast growing up watching wrestling. It was what
(20:12):
got me through some you know what I think is
for everyone some pretty tumultuous years in terms of like
emotionals and hormones and all that stuff. I had wrestling
and I had music.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
We predicted on this podcast that you would not go
to a w We were like, I mean, I thought
there was zero chance you'd go to AW.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So I was on the same page with that. But
the way you what you just described completely explains why
you were able to make that shift. How difficult of
a choice was that sorry to jump in j No, no,
that's the same question and steal everything. But how was
was it a more challenging decision than you thought? Or
(21:08):
was it? Look, I love to wrestle, this is just
a different canvas and I'm gonna go paint.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That was really what it boiled down to. And I
just thought of all the paints I'd have at my disposal.
And I also knew that I would be needed for more,
which which was really enticing, you know I And this
is I can always preface everything with this. This is
not a knock on the WWE. But I was breakflass.
(21:36):
In case of emergency or we need something for this,
let's call at him again. And it's every three months,
or it's every four months, or maybe there's a little
story here, but then it's gone again, and then it's
back again. I became the king of the comeback. And
it almost became like farcical. You know, it happened so
many times. So I looked over there, and I looked
(21:58):
at the roster and Jay there, you know, so get
to work on my best friend. And that's the only
way this is going to happen is if I go there.
But then again, I looked at the roster and I
just started salvating because I'm like, man, talk about a
blank canvas and talk about like a brand new palette
to work with. Moxley, Claudium, Danielson, MJF J White, Samoa,
(22:21):
Joe and I have never worked each other. Like that's
insane to me. That's wild. It's wild, right, the young
bucks FTR. Like that's off the top of my head, and.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's yes, we didn't even mention swerve to change. Yeah,
like we didn't even they deep rosterate. Guys, you haven't
touched yet.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, And since I've been there, you know, to be
able to get with Pento one week and then Suzuki
another week, and then in the same week do a
street fight with Brody King and then do a technical
match with Kyle O'Reilly two days later, Like that to
me is super fun because at this stage of my career,
at this age, you need new challenges to you know,
to spark you. From the day I walked in there,
(23:00):
I've just been like, I feel like a little kid
in the candy store.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You did some cinematic shit with O'Reilly too, when you
guys had that match. You guys did did some stuff
where I was like, that's straight out of the movies
right there.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, I love going to do that, man. I love
when you do it. I've seen other wrestlers take from
that now and I've seen them start to add it
to their repertoire, like little by little because they've seen
it work at a high level when you pulled it off,
and maybe other guys were doing it, but I'm just
now noticing it with my somewhat trained eyes.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So Randy has always done it, and it's just making
sure to build those moments. But you can't just do them.
You got to build to them. And if you don't
have the time, well then it's not going to work.
So it's really just it needs to be the right opponent,
it needs to be the right scenario, it needs to
be the right amount of time to be able to
(23:54):
really pull it off. Thankfully, at this stage, I'm given
the time to be able to paint those moments and
be a part of, you know, kind of constructing that.
And with Kyle, it's like it's his hometown. It's just
twenty years after he watched his first match in that
arena with his dad and I was on the show.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
What I didn't know that that me have said that
in commentary, but I don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
That's wild and his dad came to this show and
his family was there, So it's all it all. It
really rights itself so that you can get some real
moments in there. And for me, the goal is always
to have the audience believe this guy's going to lose
the title. And I love that about guys like Rick
Flair where Nightly, I didn't know if he was going
(24:40):
to walk out with the title. Like Sean Michaels, I
didn't know if he was going to walk out with them.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Because y'all take such a beating man well and it
makes me think, oh shit, this is the time he's
gonna lose.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And if you can paint it right, hopefully, you know,
there's no reason that a cold match me and O'Reilly,
you know, should have people really thinking, Okay, he's going
to drop this title on an episode of Collision. But
I think about halfway through they started buying into this idea.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You and Randy have always been great at that and
making people think, no matter who it is, oh shit,
alway is he gonna win?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
No, he's not. And there's the Arcado when he got him.
But there's always like you guys were always good at that,
the veterans that you that you too.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Now we are.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, but that's right, buddy.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You're a veteran.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I will say, does it bother you? Guys like me
are still calling you Edge? I can't stop doing it.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
It's one of those deals like I've never introduced myself
as Edge. I've never called myself Edge, you know what
I mean? So for me, I just go, well, I mean,
I play a character. I played a character named Edge. Yeah,
but I still played a character named Flatino.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Right, Yeah, you know you don't call my wife Buffy,
you call her Sarah, call him Adam, dude. I know
it's hard for my brains.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Wow, it's hard for my brain though, because we be
wrestling is different for me than a movie script or
a TV show. It's like I used to date a wrestler.
She'd be like, Oh, we're gonna go, Mark's gonna be there,
and like, all right, big deal?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Who was Mark?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And then we get there and it's like Undertaker. I'm like,
why didn't you tell me like that? Like she I
didn't tell you, I think it's closer.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
To like a really successful sitcom like Michael Richard is
probably always going to be absolutely and and Jennifer Anderson's
some people are always going to call it Rachel right,
is just one of those things. So yeah, I mean
that means people watch, That means something I did stuck
with and that's a compliment.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, throws people off, well, like hul Hulk Hogan, you
know you like he's skill, I'm Darry You're Hulk, all right,
That's just how.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
That I'm always going to see and hear you as that.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, how much longer are you going to be hurt?
What can you even talk about it yet? Is it
too yearly Ton't even know.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Only what I know is that it's non weight bearing
for eight to ten weeks, which is far the most
frustrating part. But this is the same leg that I
tore my achilles on, so I know I kind of
know what it is, and it's just a whole lot
of doing nothing and first except healing, that's your job.
Once I get walking again, that's when I can have
(27:16):
a better gauge of like, oh, this is going to
be a six month this is going to be an
eight month I guess it was just a bad area.
You never want to break your leg, but it was like,
is there a good a good area. It was not
a good leg break, but it was just above the
ankle joint, which I guess is called a pelon fracture.
So there's more that comes into it in terms of
(27:38):
the healing process, you know, with a tissue with the
blood flow. And I'm fifty, right, so I have to
be a realist and understand that my body is going
to play some limitations, you know, on myself that just
weren't there before, hence why I got hurt. I truly
think when I was thirty, I could have pulled it off.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
One hundred percent. Man, the artist mind is young. It's
it's just the body that ages. But the artist's mine
stays young. You're always trying to come up with new
crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Right absolutely, you know. So now it was it was
tough lesson to learn, but I learned it well.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Listen, man, thank you for doing the show. You guys
can get the pure Plank at gopureplank dot com and
make them sell out again, because they keep selling out.
I got to get my ass on it, so I
can stop getting injuries. Appreciate you being a part of
this show. Thank you for always being so cool. Thank
you for being cool when crazy storylines were pitched at
you when we work together back in the day, and
(28:34):
always making shit work. And I'm so glad to see
you having so much fun today even though you're hitting
your best friend of the nuts with a barbed wire
baseball pad. You psychopath or at least threatening to Jesus,
it was coming to.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
A thud.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
There was a thud, all right. Thanks for doing the
show on behalf of Jeff Die and the great Adam Copeland.
I'm Freddie Prince Junior. Thank you, guys, and we'll see
you on Thursday for our unsanctioned episode and every single
Wednesday for wrestling with Freddy Peace. This has been a
production of Iheart'smichael Toura podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,
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