June 8, 2022 • 37 mins
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M h. What's up? Everyone, Welcome back to a brand
new episode of Wrestling with Freddy, and today's episode is
a very special episode because of you. Today is our
ask Freddy episode that was our hashtag and y'all came
through big time. So a ton of appreciation for you,
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a ton of appreciation for professional wrestling, and let's start
the show. Wrestling with Freddie starts right now now stuffing
up for the mic. The host of Wrestling with Freddy
Freddie Prince Tune. Yeah, all right, everybody, welcome back. Sorry
for the bat young counter impression. Today's episode was asked Freddie.
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We got tons of questions from all of y'all fine
ladies and germs, and I'm gonna get through as many
as I can, and I will try not decide quest
um although some of you probably like the side quest
more so we'll keep an open mind and we'll see
where the river takes us. So today, if I get
any names wrong, I apologize a lot of these. I
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feel like I cannot screw up. So we're gonna start
right away with Haley Hales, and I'm reading some of
these for the first time, so you're gonna get honest
reactions here we go. Haley Hales asks from Twitter. Throughout
your tenure with w w E, was there ever a
time where you thought you might be fired for doing something? No?
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I was never afraid I would lose my job. But
that's not to say there weren't times where I was
almost fired. I just don't. I just don't know about him.
Maybe Bruce Pritchard would know. You could ask his Were
you guys ever going to secretly fire Freddie? No? I
never got in any trouble when I worked there. I
had a couple of segments that Vince didn't feel worked
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or that Vince didn't like that he would yell about.
But that was never like, oh my gosh, am I
gonna get fired. That's just two people with different ideas arguing,
and that's to me, is rarely a bad thing if
they're both If both people have the same goal in mind,
which is, let's make the best thing. When one person's
goal is simply screw you, then no, that's not a
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healthy conversation. But I never had any of those, Hailey Hales.
Our next question is from Comahan. Oh, like Han Solo
and the Coma and the Carbon Night, maybe different fans
want different things with wrestling. Some companies try to be
a buffet. Yes, they do, some target specific audiences also true.
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How would you balance a national company between character driven,
moral stories, athletics, sport, light competition, grandeur, nice word, etcetera.
What's the ideal mix for you? Ask FPJ so Comahan.
There's no right or wrong answer to this. I don't
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think there's anything wrong with buffet wrestling, though that's not
what I would want to do if I we're making
a wrestling con federation. But there is something to be
said for that, a little something for everyone, and that's
definitely the w w E style. Per Vince McMahon's own lips,
you know, he said to me, verbatim, this is this
is vaudeville. We give the people a little bit of everything,
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a little bit of song dance, which was literal back then.
It was not Lillian Garcia, it was Jillian and she
her gimmick was to sing poorly, so the crowd would boo,
and when the baby face female wrestler would come out
and beat her up and more importantly shut her up,
than the crowd would cheer and would love our baby
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face female wrestler. So he literally put song and dance
into the show. That's not exactly my style, but when
I was young, I didn't, you know, I didn't mind
it at all. Then there's cater to your to the
more of the social media hardcore, the vocal fans, which
is more the A e W style, which gets it
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right and gets it wrong, just like w W W E.
Although I do give a W credit for the best
wrestling story in over a decade with the m JF
and CM punk storyline, which if you haven't seen it,
I'm sure someone edited it together on YouTube, if not
a e W themselves and their social media and YouTube group,
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they cut together some pretty awesome stuff, so you should
even check that out. They're less buffet and they cater
I think, more to the modern wrestling fan. And then
there's smaller promotions that do just female wrestling, the Japanese promotions,
which is more a strong, beat them up, tough guy
kind of even tough girl style, which people like, although
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maybe in Japan they called there's buffet style, I don't know,
and the g c ws that do more hardcore and
deathmatch stuff. I think for me and I can't say
too much, and I don't know if your question was
was evil enough to be trying to figure out what
I'm going to try to do with my federation. But
if it is, kudos, but it didn't work. Mine is
certainly gonna be in a specific lane, and it's gonna
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lean into that lane as much as all of us
physically and emotionally can. But I will be global. As
far as the type of talent that I'm looking for,
I feel I have a really smart way to protect
non English speaking talent. I feel I have a really
smart way to protect talent that's maybe not so strong
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on the mic, but they're wrestling is super legit and
they just need someone to help him out. In the
old days, we have managers speak for him, and in
the in the in the new day, in the in
the contemporary wrestling world, it still works as well if
you have the right kind of voice. Paul Hayman, I guess,
is the perfect example of that. Although my favorite manager
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of all times Mr Fuji, who wasn't even that great
on the mic, but I just loved him. But I
think I have a unique way to do it that
I'm sure it's been done before, but not to my knowledge.
I'm no historian, but I look forward to surprising people
with that. Hopefully it's a surprise, and I don't get
a million people going, oh, that was done and not
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d in thirty three. I's so sorry, born in seventy,
so so yeah. I hope that answers your question. I
think it does, but it will certainly be in a
specific in a specific lane. Next we have X. That's
what you get, bro or chick. I don't know who
you are, asks Freddie. That's me. I've listened to most
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of your podcast apps, hold on most for if your
hashtag is four twenty, you and I both know how
much damn free time you have on your hands, and
you've only listened to most. I get the Cornett and
the others give you two and a half three hours,
and that can maybe feel the day. Come on, Matt,
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you can listen to me while you're driving to the
shop right for twenty or maybe your delivery dude, and
you're helping people out. You can listen to me on
your delivery. It be the perfect amount of time. And
you've listened to most of the episodes. I'm skipping your quip,
not chucking. Here we go, you've dropped nuggets along the way.
Then did the full app about your own wrestling promotion, Yes,
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I did. What's the most important to have slash grow
hardcore fan base or casual fan base. I think there's
a way to have one show that serves the house
audience with edits and cuts that they never see that
would make it to the TV version of that same
house show. I think there's a way to do that,
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and I think I have a way to do that
which makes the house show feel more hardcore than it
would to a television distributor, so to speak. As far
as what's important to grow, your house has to be
a hot crowd, whether you have a hundred and fifty attendees,
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which are some of my favorite wrestling shows that I've
been to, by the way, or whether you have a
hundred thousand attend to ease either way, your crowd has
to be hot for the TV product to have energy.
I used to hate the what chant I really did?
I've said this before, but I when there were no
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more crowds during the pandemic, I got how wrong I was.
That energy was gone and the magic was gone. Imagine
being a magician and doing tricks for no one when
you know how the trick has done, which you're going
to impress yourself. What do you even why you why
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did you take up? Magic is a profession if there's
gonna be no crowd. So I was I was dead
wrong and and dead ass arrogant on that. But my
experience came from television, where there is no audience minus sitcoms,
of course, and I didn't like theater. I liked movies.
I think you have to dedicate a great portion of
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your energy into servicing the people who bought tickets, over
servicing the people that turn onto television. And I think
if you take care of one, that magic exists, and
it in turn can take care of the other. If
someone's not gonna watch, they're not gonna watch. There's a
million cops shows on Law and Order still gets a
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better rating than all of them, but there's a million
of them, so there's room for a million wrestling shows.
People are gonna watch what they like and watch what
they connect to. So I think that answers your question.
I think if you appetize the hardcore, you can gain
the mainstream. Look what punk rock did. Punk rock stayed
true to itself and then the mainstream embraced it, and
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music evolved over time, like all art does. But horror films,
which were very niche back in the day, get hundred
million dollar budgets today's and they don't need it. You
can scare people for a lot less and art always changes,
just like just like punk rock music and just like wrestling.
But I think when you stay true to the to
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the foundation of it, that can that can be best.
Next question is at Reef is Um. I know this
dude from Twitter. I know Reef is M. He's very
vocal whether he's he's pro or con my opinion at
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the time. What is the best wrestling match you've seen
in person? I mean, that's that's pretty easy. It upsets
some people based on the content, But I think if
people investigate the damage that was done to that man's brain,
which was the cause of him doing such horrible damage
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to his family, then hopefully you can get around me
saying this. If you can't, I understand you can be
upset with me. You're allowed those feelings. I'm not trying
to hurt anyone's feeling by saying this, so I'm just
answering the question. But the best match I ever saw
in person was Curt Angle and the late Chris ben
Wah at Staples Center, and it was a repeat of
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a match they had in Boston. I remember Shot came
in and the crowd went crazy because Shot came in,
and I was like, I only heard the applause. I
was like, wait, let's go. Why did Charon so loud?
This is a regular spot. And then I saw this
seven ft plus pound to walk back. It was the
best match I ever saw in person because neither man
stopped moving for thirty minutes like it was. It was
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so insane that I hope answers your question, and anyone
that I offended, please remember that's that's not that's not
my intention. It was just the best. It was the
best match I ever. So next question is from to
one two Q underscore J g Man. To make sure
that no one's name is like a prank against me
where I'm saying stuff like the way y'all got Michael
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bisbeing because I'm not young and quick anymore. All right,
J g Man, if you were able to go back
in time too before you worked at the w w E,
knowing how it turned out, would you still have agreed
to work for them? Yeah? Absolutely, I mean nothing turned
out poorly, yet I loved what I was able to
accomplish there. I loved the opportunities that I was able
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to provide for the people I was there in the
short amount of time I was there. I've heard from
wrestlers since I left who said, thank you, this helped
me so much, or that little things that I didn't
even realize at the time. I mean, I did Gerald
Brisco and J B L's podcast, and at Brisco I'm
sure he says it to everybody just to be polite,
but he said, hey, you left the business better than
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you than you inherited it, and that meant a lot
to me. You know again, even if it was just polite,
he didn't have to, he didn't have to say that
at the end of the show. But I I took
it and and I believed it because I felt like
I did good work when I was there, So regardless
of of the challenges and all that stuff. Now, I
would I wouldn't change the thing. I would go there.
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Next question is from Media Uncharted. What are some wrestling
cliches that you think are overused or sick of seeing
referees getting something in their eyeballs. That's pretty much that's
pretty much two. I don't think refs need to I'm
not saying they can't ever be distracted the eye. The
I thing is silly. Some of the distractions that are
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used in the mainstream are still silly to me. Some
are totally acceptable. I get that interference from the outside
of manager yelling at him, an opponent barking at him,
sometimes to the point where they get thrown out of
the ring. I don't get mad at that, but the
silly distractions, I get a little sick of contract signings maybe,
but ever once in a a while you still see a
good one. So I don't think that's played out. I
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think it's just not always done well. So I would
go with the I got something in my eye cliche.
That's the one. That's the one I'm done with. Man.
Next question is from Jim Underscore ko W Jim Cow,
is there someone either ww UI or a e W
that you think is under you, that you think is underutilized,
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and if so, how would you book them to get
over I like that. Thank you for the challenge. Okay,
all right, here we go. First of all, the Return
of Alexa Bliss was was a complete and total tragedy.
They literally just said, here's a match, no story whatsoever,
here's a match. But they just brought her back, so
maybe they have something. So I'm not gonna dump on
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that just yet. But Kevin owens Man, I feel he
should be playing in major stories all the time. I
think it's unfair to use him in stories that if
anyone else was trying to sell it, there's just no
way that the story would work or that you would
invest any time. But his level of commitment and his
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his talent and his ability to execute that talent in
the ring and on the mic is next level. So
he's like writer or proof right, Like there's actors used.
All have seen movies where you're like, YEO, this movie hucks,
but actor X is rocking the ship out of this,
so almost stick with it, whether whether it's male or female.
And you might like the dog to air Bud movies
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and you're like, Yo, this movie sucks, but man, a
dog hit a home run, Like whatever it is, it's
the lead of that that film that that makes you watch,
you know, irrespective of the words coming out of their mouth.
Oh how you like that? Mr who wrote Grandeur? In
your question? I just hit him with irrespective, I'll just
hit you back. So that's how I feel about that.
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It's hard to say is underutilized. I just feel maybe No,
I'm sticking with that. He should be a major title player.
He should always be competing or up near the top
with say Cody, Seth Roman, Bobby, anybody who's a at
world championship level. He should be involved with one of
their character storylines at all times. Alright, Next question from
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mL Gavin if you could watch this is a good question.
If you could watch two celebs fight in a TLC
match that's tables, ladders and chairs for all you civilians,
who would they be? This is good, all right, I
like this very much. Two celebs in a tables, ladders
and chairs, and so basically, who do I want to see?
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What two actors do I want to see just get annihilated?
I would We're gonna do. I might give you two matches. Alright.
First of all, check peete this. I already have the match.
And these are two friends of mine who I love
very much, and both of them love wrestling. But I
would love to see Seth Green, which is Scott Evil
if you guys don't know who that is versus Mcaulay Culkin.
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I don't have to tell you what movies he was in.
In a tables, ladders and Chairs match, They're they're smaller
than Luca Doors. They would literally fly. If he jumped
off a ten foot ladder, it would look like it
was thirty feet up. I would love to and I
love them, and they would get hurt. Would I would
visit them in the hospital and give them kind words.
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But Seth Green versus Macaulay Culkin in a TLC match,
and on the women's side, I'm putting Rachel Lee Cook
in there against Jennifer Love Hewitt, and Rachel Lee Cook's
going over big, big, and it's a squash match. And
I'm not giving the women less time because I'm a misogynist.
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It's just because Rachel's so powerful and unpredictable that she
just annihilates Love in less than three minutes. I give
him three minutes with entrances, and I get Seth in
seven Mack, I give him thirty five minutes. That's my
favorite question of the day. Not the best question, mL Gavin,
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but my favorite question. Our next question is from Aliva
Underscore Andrew call you Olive. We're gonna call you alive.
How's that all right, Olive? If you could pick, oh, okay,
if you could pick any wrestler in the history of
the business to be the top guy in your new company,
who would it be. So this is pretty easy because
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you don't just want to go to who was super successful.
You have to go to whom had the biggest cultural impact? Right,
cultural impact where people who didn't even know wrestling knew
who your top guy was cultural impact, so they'll go to.
For most people around our age would probably be Hulk Hogan.
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But I'm not a Hogan guy. I was I was
like the bad guys. I was an Andre the giant guy.
So if I was going to do cultural like we
could go hardcore like down in Mexico and go Al Santo. Right,
who's probably I mean, you could argue as on the
Mount Rushmore of cultural impact and professional wrestling. If you
don't know who he is, that's okay, I'm not here
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to dump on you. Just look up his impact in
Mexico and you'll you'll you'll see man do birthday as
a holiday. I think you have to go stone cold
Steve Austin because it was the ultimate fantasy, which was
punching your boss. Well, if your boss was cool, then
you don't have this fantasy. But for the working man,
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for the blue collar man and woman for that matter,
stone Cold represented everything you wanted to do but couldn't.
And you knew maybe your boss is bigger than you,
so you couldn't throw a punch because he whooped your butt.
If you lived through Stone Cold's eyes, that wasn't gonna happen.
You were, you were getting the w So I think
I'd have to start it with Stone Cold Steve Austin.
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I mean, his presence is still felt with the what
chant today in any wrestling federation. I don't know if
they do in Japan, I don't think. So that's so respectful,
the crowds are so insanely respectful. But everywhere else it's
still done. So I think you gotta go with with
the rattlesnake stone Cold, Stephen. He was getting he was
drinking beer on live TV. Man like that. He got
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away with a lot at one True Richie. Has there
ever been a talent that pitched an idea to you
that you didn't think would work but did? That's a
pretty good question. I mean, we spoke at length about
the Dolph Ziggler. We did an episode dedicated to the man,
but he didn't come up with that. Brian Gowertz came
up with it, and Vince came up with the gimmick
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of him just introducing himself. And I did not think
that was gonna work at all, and I was dead
as wrong. But as far as a wrestler pitching me
an idea that I then later saw that worked. Man,
I'm trying to think this doesn't exactly go to your question.
But I worked with E C three back when Ann Next.
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He was like a like a mentor show, like young
rookie wrestlers, even though they weren't rookies. They're working with
a w W a mentor to learn how to wrestle,
and he was one of them, and they gave him
like this goofy gimmick where he was like a comedy
guy and he was always kind of pitching more serious stuff.
But I didn't think it wouldn't work. He just wasn't
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gonna have the opportunity to get that bit over at
that time because they just didn't see that. They wanted
silly stuff. And then when he went to t NA,
he became that guy, and that gimmick got over real quick,
and he got that over really well too, and he's
still working that gimmick today. But none of us was like, yeah,
that's not gonna work. It just that that wasn't gonna
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happen for him. He wasn't going to receive that type
of an opportunity there. So that's as close to answering
that one as I can get. Rich all right, This
one is for at merk Z Underscore Maverick. If you
had an opportunity to develop any type of video game
for consoles, what type of game would you choose? And
why is your show so dope? Love you? All right,
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So we'll get a little off topic here. This will
be our side quest for the day. Two of my
favorite worlds have been done already. The Wild West, which
read Dead Redemption Too is a perfect game. They've already
done that. So I don't want to do something that
someone else has done perfectly because I wouldn't be able
to make it as good. And their stories and that
were great too, and they pulled from the same movies
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that I would have pulled from. I wrote a Dungeons
and Dragons story, a much longer one for the up
Up Downtown people at w w E. I was there
dungeon Master for season three and wrote like a five
and a half hour story for them that they broke
into I think four or five episodes. Originally we're talking
about doing another one and making it much longer. And
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it was literally the wild West and a lot of
Red Dead Redemption too was in there, a lot of
it with my own stuff. I did a lot of
uh but we still they do it, so I don't
want to spoil it. But yeah, so I wouldn't want
to do that, so I'll go with this. I was
a huge cyberpunk nerd. I have, over the pandemic written
a custom futuristic ish table top role playing game that
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I can't say the name of yet, maybe I have
on social media already. It's called Asphalt and Augments, and
it's basically if Street out Laws and Cyberpunk took mushrooms
and had a baby, I would probably create something in there.
Because the Cyberpunk game was not what it should have been.
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I know they did an update and improved it a lot,
but it was it was not. It just wasn't as
special as it should have been. And that's not all
the developers fault. You know, most of it is the
studio's fault. These release dates that they insist on having
to make themselves look Hollywood, even though they fall hate
Hollywood is so stupid. Games and movies with this quarterly crap.
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Once things got publicly traded, you were getting movies made
without scripts, without scripts. There was a movie called The Avengers,
not the Marvel one. It was with Ray Finds, Uma
Thurman and Sean Connery is the villain, and it was
based off you know, it was an intellectual property, based
off an older show or whatever. Yeah, show called the
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Avengers whatever it was, British, British show. They legit started
filming without a script. They started filming a movie without
a script because they had to get out x amount
of films quarterly, and this had been approved by their
publicly traded company. Would be based on we have this cast,
this sector of this sector in this sector. And it
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was they were starting to do analytics saying this actor
equals this amount of revenue with the box office, instead
of hey, let's get some good actors and make a movie.
Once all this stuff became corporate, man, to get a
good game, you have to really give it up to
the developers who have to not drive over speed bumps.
I mean they're driving over the Grand Canyon, only there's
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no bridge. They got to jump it and hope they
don't end up like Thelm and Louise. So shout out
to video game developers everywhere. And this ends our side quest.
P F t Asia Tour. We're gonna make your name
very European. Did you ever sneeze around Vince McMahon, I
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don't think so. If I did, I didn't care. I mean,
it's a it's a normal thing. I know, I've heard
all like the gross stories and all that, but he
just plays it up, you know, and he doesn't like it.
But who wants to get sneezed done? Who wants to
get sick? Nobody? But I think that's been blown up
more than it actually is. Or when I worked there
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at one point it had been a real thing. But
even he kind of played it up a little bit
at this point. But I never got in trouble for sneezing.
Damon Moves is our next question er. I'm gonna try
to refrain from asking you any She's all that questions.
Everyone thinks a w W E writer is a dream job.
But what are things that fans don't know that would
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ruin their expectations of the job, pressure, deadlines, etcetera. We
just spoke about deadlines in our previous video game segment. Well,
I mean, if it's your dream job, I don't know
what this is. This is tricky because I look, all
writers jobs can be difficult in the modern age. If
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you knew how many rewrites the script went through from
the moment of studio buys it to the movie you
see on screen, you would vomit in in pity for
the original writer. Because sometimes there's five six writers on
a single script. A lot of them don't even go
credited and just get paid a little bit extra to
not be credited. The writer's life again in the in
the corporate modern world is is hell. It's hell. And
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the notes you're getting you have to remember you're getting
notes from people who have never written a script, who
have never been to college and taught a class on screenwriting.
They just want to put their fingerprints, meaning their ego
compels them to give a note. They want their fingerprints
on something so they can say when they go, oh,
I like this, they go, oh, well, I had a
great deal to do with that. This was my note,
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and that's okay. That's a human instinct and there's nothing
wrong with that, but an assertive artist to protect their
own ideas, their own creativity. When something they know is
bad for what they've created, they must say, I'll try
to make that work, but if I can't, we're going
to have to cross this bridge again. And it's important
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that writers are straight up, incredibly important that they're straight up,
and a lot of them getting nervous because the person
buying their script is their boss, and they feel entitled
two notes, and they are. It's a natural human instinct,
but a lot of times those notes get you so
far off what the original idea was, and all the
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note givers are so inside the forest that they don't
see outside, that they only see it from their tiny prism,
and it destroys ideas. So that's something if you're an
aspiring W W E writer that you can get or
any type of writer you can get ready for emotionally,
because it's a roller coaster, and it's hell not a
good one. It's not six flags, it's not what was
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that sick one in Colorado? Elitch Is, it's not is
it sucks. It sucks very rare. Do you get something
through with no notes? I think I had one promo,
well they didn't touch my Jeff Hardy stuff, but an
Undertaker promo they got zero notes from anybody and everyone
that that was a big deal. But that's a big
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deal in Hollywood too. I mean everything it gets changed
so so much. And even the actors on script sometimes
they're changing lines. If what you wrote that reads beautifully
sounds horribly coming out of their head, they're not gonna
want to say that, they're gonna want to change it
and make it more of their own. So any type
of writer outside maybe a novelist where you just have
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an editor, I think it's just a hell crap job
and you shouldn't do it. Mike f and Murphy, Yeah,
this is my Mike Eff and Murphy voice. When you
open your own promotion, are we gonna get to see
you take some bumps? I want to see that jiu
jitsu in action too, O F and No, I'm no
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not taking bumps. And it really isn't to be about me.
I wanted to be well, let me say this. If
I have to be in it to get it sold,
on TV. When it's ready to go, then I'll be
in it. It would be in a minor way, but
I would find a way to make that work. But
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in no way, shape or form will I be inside
a ring in between the start and finished bell. No way, dude,
no way, that's not That's not what I want to
do with with my brand. That's not really who I
am at this age, maybe in my twenties. But I
appreciate you wanting to see me. I respect that. Craig Fraser, Frasier,
(29:44):
We're going Fraser now, we're gonna mess it. We're gonna
go Frazer like Fraggle Rock. If you could go back
to two one and book a d X versus n
w O Invasion angle, how would you book it? And
who goes over? Look? Man, d X is winning. I
know that Hunter. I wasn't Hunter's favorite person when I
worked there, but before the Jeff Hardy thing, he and
I were cool, man like, we showed each other respect.
(30:05):
It was the Jeff thing that that kind of turned
him off on me and and had him keep specific
wrestlers away from me. But as far as as Triple HS,
the wrestler like, that's d X all day, and this
would be the quickest booking ever because I would have
had that tank goes straight through the wall of that arena,
having him go in there and just beat up everybody,
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and just have it be a full unshoot invasion where
we're having to pay for the construction of an arena
and Georgia. So that's how I would book that death
Death to the n w O, which leads us to
our next question from Whale Wolf Jones. This is Sean Connery.
What's something you she in today's Pro Wrestling Loungeescape but
you don't see your shelf doing with your promotion. That's
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a pretty good question, Mr Connery, I mean Mr wolf Jones. Sorry,
it's such a good impression. Tricked myself. I don't want
any supernatural stuff in my promotion. That something that I
think can work for some people. It certainly has. It
was a career for the Well, almost an entire career
for the Undertaker, minus the American badass years, which he
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still managed to pull up. It certainly worked for Kane,
It even worked for Bray Wyatt to the eyes of
a lot of people. I know there's vocals, but there
no no But for most people, Gray White or the Fiend,
I should say, worked for a lot of people, but
I'm not looking for supernatural stuff out of mind. That's
not to say it won't be there won't be room
for it to be a little darker. Optimal universe spelled
(31:33):
una verse. Have you ever played the tabletop game Rumble Slam? Okay,
I've heard of this game. It's a fantasy wrestling so
thank D and D for Wrestling. Okay. I have heard
of this game A long time ago. I did a
stream I think it was probably on Twitch for for
Wizards of the Coast and it was called D and
D w Dungeons and Dragons Wrestling, and it was run
(31:54):
by this actor who does voice work for all the
anime that you've seen. I don't like the term voice
there because he's an actor. He just does voices. But
we're all actors. I hate that crap. On Star Wars,
what was it side Quest? On Star Wars Rogue one,
they had the actors that were considered the live action
actors separate from the voice actors on the red carpet
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when they took the picture of all the actors in
the movie, and I just thought that was so disrespectful.
To the other actors that were in that film, because
it's all such a powerful part of the process and
to just overlook them like that, it's like, oh, wow,
you really don't appreciate him. We know you don't financially,
but that's like next level. That's artistically. You're not respected
(32:41):
and that's crazy. His name is KG Vontagne and he's awesome. Okay,
he runs a Monster's only wrestling D and D league,
so you can't be like you have to be a
monster to be in it. And I was an owl bear,
which is a half hour half you get us to bear.
(33:01):
And I was an indie wrestler. My inspiration was Kevin
Owens and I was cursed to understand and speak every
language of every culture, beast, whatever, except my own, by
a wizard long ago who I ate. By the way,
it was their final episode and I beat everyone's ass
because you know, your boy represented and I am because
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that was their final episode and they didn't get picked
up for another season. That's how That's how much of
an impact I made. I am the D and D
w Wrestling Champion, so put some respect on my name
when you tweet me, it's champion And what was my name?
I think it was Horace, Horace the Albert and he
was bad Yeah, he was. He was badass. But I
(33:44):
need to get this game. When I get off this podcast,
I'll order it off of Evil Amazon because it's not
at the game shop that I go to. I know
that for a fact. And support your local game shops
if you don't find one close by and and purchase
there instead of Amazon, and definitely keep them in business
and your friends and family. Well, thank you for having
such great games to play. And our final question of
the day, and I love doing this episode with you guys.
(34:05):
Is there any wrestlers you have your eye on for
your promotion and is there any new match type ideas
you have? Okay, what can I say here? New match types? No?
I was pitching ideas back and forth or tossing ideas
that at m JF, and it obviously deteriorated quickly into
jokes back and forth. The worst match we came up with,
(34:26):
I think was a trapeeze match suspended the line between
two elephants, and halfway through the match we pull the net.
I think is eventually where it was, but I promise
I'm not going to do that it'll be more old school,
more traditional style matches. It'll be the world around it
that is different. And are there any wrestlers. Yeah, this one.
(34:47):
I even said on social media. Somebody said, hey, you
should think about Killer Cross for your new promotion, and
I retweeted, he already knows, like I've I've spoke to
him months ago at the moment his con trek was
no more at w w E. Oh buddy. I randomly
had a FaceTime with him, and when he was on
the road with John Morrison, when John was briefly back
(35:10):
with the w w E and they had him and
crossed cruising together. Johnny just ruled randomly FaceTime me from
time to time, which is so much cooler than a
text or a phone call. I love it when old
friends FaceTime and I get to see their face and
see their big smiles. He panned over to Cross and
I was like, oh, I pop big. I was like,
oh dude, what's up? Man? I said, you and your
girl are like like the Satanic, super hot macho man
(35:32):
and Elizabeth and he laughed and choked and I said
this before they pulled him up to the main roster.
I said, man, I love what you guys are doing
over there for real, and so that's when he and
I first met, so as soon as he was gone,
he was one of the first guys that I reached
out to where I was like, hey, man, you know,
whatever you signed, make sure the contracts up in about
a year and a half. Eis. But but yeah, so
Cross is definitely a cat that uh that I like.
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There's a lot of guys out there. I can't just
throw everybody's name out, but since I said that one
on on Twitter, it's okay. A lot of y'all reached out.
A lot of indie wrestlers reached out, so it was,
you know, I can't get back to everybody, but I
checked out a few that were like, yo, look at
my work list and that that had links there. There
were some people that were like, hey, give me a
job and there's nothing I can do with that, and
I'm a year and a half out anyway, but I
(36:14):
looked at a few links. I was like, dang, man,
Like I saw this one dude. I was like, damn,
I'll call his ask for sure, but I can't say
any names yet. Uh he was legit. So so yeah,
I'm I'm working hard on that and I love doing
this episode. Thank you, guys for all of your awesome
questions that made me laugh. A couple of them made
me think, a couple of them are really good guys.
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Thank you so much for listening. This has been the
end of season one of Wrestling with Freddy, but not
the end of our show. I think each and every
one of you so much for joining this journey with
us and for joining the Federation, and I look forward
to talking to all of y'all next season with all
kinds of new crazy stuff that we're doing. So thank
you for listening, and thank you for joining the Federation.
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M h. What's up? Everyone, Welcome back to a brand
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a very special episode because of you. Today is our
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a ton of appreciation for professional wrestling, and let's start
the show. Wrestling with Freddie starts right now now stuffing
up for the mic. The host of Wrestling with Freddy
Freddie Prince Tune. Yeah, all right, everybody, welcome back. Sorry
for the bat young counter impression. Today's episode was asked Freddie.
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We got tons of questions from all of y'all fine
ladies and germs, and I'm gonna get through as many
as I can, and I will try not decide quest
um although some of you probably like the side quest
more so we'll keep an open mind and we'll see
where the river takes us. So today, if I get
any names wrong, I apologize a lot of these. I
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feel like I cannot screw up. So we're gonna start
right away with Haley Hales, and I'm reading some of
these for the first time, so you're gonna get honest
reactions here we go. Haley Hales asks from Twitter. Throughout
your tenure with w w E, was there ever a
time where you thought you might be fired for doing something? No?
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I was never afraid I would lose my job. But
that's not to say there weren't times where I was
almost fired. I just don't. I just don't know about him.
Maybe Bruce Pritchard would know. You could ask his Were
you guys ever going to secretly fire Freddie? No? I
never got in any trouble when I worked there. I
had a couple of segments that Vince didn't feel worked
(01:48):
or that Vince didn't like that he would yell about.
But that was never like, oh my gosh, am I
gonna get fired. That's just two people with different ideas arguing,
and that's to me, is rarely a bad thing if
they're both If both people have the same goal in mind,
which is, let's make the best thing. When one person's
goal is simply screw you, then no, that's not a
(02:10):
healthy conversation. But I never had any of those, Hailey Hales.
Our next question is from Comahan. Oh, like Han Solo
and the Coma and the Carbon Night, maybe different fans
want different things with wrestling. Some companies try to be
a buffet. Yes, they do, some target specific audiences also true.
(02:32):
How would you balance a national company between character driven,
moral stories, athletics, sport, light competition, grandeur, nice word, etcetera.
What's the ideal mix for you? Ask FPJ so Comahan.
There's no right or wrong answer to this. I don't
(02:52):
think there's anything wrong with buffet wrestling, though that's not
what I would want to do if I we're making
a wrestling con federation. But there is something to be
said for that, a little something for everyone, and that's
definitely the w w E style. Per Vince McMahon's own lips,
you know, he said to me, verbatim, this is this
is vaudeville. We give the people a little bit of everything,
(03:15):
a little bit of song dance, which was literal back then.
It was not Lillian Garcia, it was Jillian and she
her gimmick was to sing poorly, so the crowd would boo,
and when the baby face female wrestler would come out
and beat her up and more importantly shut her up,
than the crowd would cheer and would love our baby
(03:36):
face female wrestler. So he literally put song and dance
into the show. That's not exactly my style, but when
I was young, I didn't, you know, I didn't mind
it at all. Then there's cater to your to the
more of the social media hardcore, the vocal fans, which
is more the A e W style, which gets it
(03:57):
right and gets it wrong, just like w W W E.
Although I do give a W credit for the best
wrestling story in over a decade with the m JF
and CM punk storyline, which if you haven't seen it,
I'm sure someone edited it together on YouTube, if not
a e W themselves and their social media and YouTube group,
(04:19):
they cut together some pretty awesome stuff, so you should
even check that out. They're less buffet and they cater
I think, more to the modern wrestling fan. And then
there's smaller promotions that do just female wrestling, the Japanese promotions,
which is more a strong, beat them up, tough guy
kind of even tough girl style, which people like, although
(04:41):
maybe in Japan they called there's buffet style, I don't know,
and the g c ws that do more hardcore and
deathmatch stuff. I think for me and I can't say
too much, and I don't know if your question was
was evil enough to be trying to figure out what
I'm going to try to do with my federation. But
if it is, kudos, but it didn't work. Mine is
certainly gonna be in a specific lane, and it's gonna
(05:06):
lean into that lane as much as all of us
physically and emotionally can. But I will be global. As
far as the type of talent that I'm looking for,
I feel I have a really smart way to protect
non English speaking talent. I feel I have a really
smart way to protect talent that's maybe not so strong
(05:27):
on the mic, but they're wrestling is super legit and
they just need someone to help him out. In the
old days, we have managers speak for him, and in
the in the in the new day, in the in
the contemporary wrestling world, it still works as well if
you have the right kind of voice. Paul Hayman, I guess,
is the perfect example of that. Although my favorite manager
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of all times Mr Fuji, who wasn't even that great
on the mic, but I just loved him. But I
think I have a unique way to do it that
I'm sure it's been done before, but not to my knowledge.
I'm no historian, but I look forward to surprising people
with that. Hopefully it's a surprise, and I don't get
a million people going, oh, that was done and not
(06:09):
d in thirty three. I's so sorry, born in seventy,
so so yeah. I hope that answers your question. I
think it does, but it will certainly be in a
specific in a specific lane. Next we have X. That's
what you get, bro or chick. I don't know who
you are, asks Freddie. That's me. I've listened to most
(06:30):
of your podcast apps, hold on most for if your
hashtag is four twenty, you and I both know how
much damn free time you have on your hands, and
you've only listened to most. I get the Cornett and
the others give you two and a half three hours,
and that can maybe feel the day. Come on, Matt,
(06:50):
you can listen to me while you're driving to the
shop right for twenty or maybe your delivery dude, and
you're helping people out. You can listen to me on
your delivery. It be the perfect amount of time. And
you've listened to most of the episodes. I'm skipping your quip,
not chucking. Here we go, you've dropped nuggets along the way.
Then did the full app about your own wrestling promotion, Yes,
(07:12):
I did. What's the most important to have slash grow
hardcore fan base or casual fan base. I think there's
a way to have one show that serves the house
audience with edits and cuts that they never see that
would make it to the TV version of that same
house show. I think there's a way to do that,
(07:33):
and I think I have a way to do that
which makes the house show feel more hardcore than it
would to a television distributor, so to speak. As far
as what's important to grow, your house has to be
a hot crowd, whether you have a hundred and fifty attendees,
(07:53):
which are some of my favorite wrestling shows that I've
been to, by the way, or whether you have a
hundred thousand attend to ease either way, your crowd has
to be hot for the TV product to have energy.
I used to hate the what chant I really did?
I've said this before, but I when there were no
(08:13):
more crowds during the pandemic, I got how wrong I was.
That energy was gone and the magic was gone. Imagine
being a magician and doing tricks for no one when
you know how the trick has done, which you're going
to impress yourself. What do you even why you why
(08:35):
did you take up? Magic is a profession if there's
gonna be no crowd. So I was I was dead
wrong and and dead ass arrogant on that. But my
experience came from television, where there is no audience minus sitcoms,
of course, and I didn't like theater. I liked movies.
I think you have to dedicate a great portion of
(09:00):
your energy into servicing the people who bought tickets, over
servicing the people that turn onto television. And I think
if you take care of one, that magic exists, and
it in turn can take care of the other. If
someone's not gonna watch, they're not gonna watch. There's a
million cops shows on Law and Order still gets a
(09:22):
better rating than all of them, but there's a million
of them, so there's room for a million wrestling shows.
People are gonna watch what they like and watch what
they connect to. So I think that answers your question.
I think if you appetize the hardcore, you can gain
the mainstream. Look what punk rock did. Punk rock stayed
true to itself and then the mainstream embraced it, and
(09:43):
music evolved over time, like all art does. But horror films,
which were very niche back in the day, get hundred
million dollar budgets today's and they don't need it. You
can scare people for a lot less and art always changes,
just like just like punk rock music and just like wrestling.
But I think when you stay true to the to
(10:04):
the foundation of it, that can that can be best.
Next question is at Reef is Um. I know this
dude from Twitter. I know Reef is M. He's very
vocal whether he's he's pro or con my opinion at
(10:27):
the time. What is the best wrestling match you've seen
in person? I mean, that's that's pretty easy. It upsets
some people based on the content, But I think if
people investigate the damage that was done to that man's brain,
which was the cause of him doing such horrible damage
(10:49):
to his family, then hopefully you can get around me
saying this. If you can't, I understand you can be
upset with me. You're allowed those feelings. I'm not trying
to hurt anyone's feeling by saying this, so I'm just
answering the question. But the best match I ever saw
in person was Curt Angle and the late Chris ben
Wah at Staples Center, and it was a repeat of
(11:12):
a match they had in Boston. I remember Shot came
in and the crowd went crazy because Shot came in,
and I was like, I only heard the applause. I
was like, wait, let's go. Why did Charon so loud?
This is a regular spot. And then I saw this
seven ft plus pound to walk back. It was the
best match I ever saw in person because neither man
stopped moving for thirty minutes like it was. It was
(11:33):
so insane that I hope answers your question, and anyone
that I offended, please remember that's that's not that's not
my intention. It was just the best. It was the
best match I ever. So next question is from to
one two Q underscore J g Man. To make sure
that no one's name is like a prank against me
where I'm saying stuff like the way y'all got Michael
(11:54):
bisbeing because I'm not young and quick anymore. All right,
J g Man, if you were able to go back
in time too before you worked at the w w E,
knowing how it turned out, would you still have agreed
to work for them? Yeah? Absolutely, I mean nothing turned
out poorly, yet I loved what I was able to
accomplish there. I loved the opportunities that I was able
(12:17):
to provide for the people I was there in the
short amount of time I was there. I've heard from
wrestlers since I left who said, thank you, this helped
me so much, or that little things that I didn't
even realize at the time. I mean, I did Gerald
Brisco and J B L's podcast, and at Brisco I'm
sure he says it to everybody just to be polite,
but he said, hey, you left the business better than
(12:39):
you than you inherited it, and that meant a lot
to me. You know again, even if it was just polite,
he didn't have to, he didn't have to say that
at the end of the show. But I I took
it and and I believed it because I felt like
I did good work when I was there, So regardless
of of the challenges and all that stuff. Now, I
would I wouldn't change the thing. I would go there.
(13:02):
Next question is from Media Uncharted. What are some wrestling
cliches that you think are overused or sick of seeing
referees getting something in their eyeballs. That's pretty much that's
pretty much two. I don't think refs need to I'm
not saying they can't ever be distracted the eye. The
I thing is silly. Some of the distractions that are
(13:24):
used in the mainstream are still silly to me. Some
are totally acceptable. I get that interference from the outside
of manager yelling at him, an opponent barking at him,
sometimes to the point where they get thrown out of
the ring. I don't get mad at that, but the
silly distractions, I get a little sick of contract signings maybe,
but ever once in a a while you still see a
good one. So I don't think that's played out. I
(13:45):
think it's just not always done well. So I would
go with the I got something in my eye cliche.
That's the one. That's the one I'm done with. Man.
Next question is from Jim Underscore ko W Jim Cow,
is there someone either ww UI or a e W
that you think is under you, that you think is underutilized,
(14:07):
and if so, how would you book them to get
over I like that. Thank you for the challenge. Okay,
all right, here we go. First of all, the Return
of Alexa Bliss was was a complete and total tragedy.
They literally just said, here's a match, no story whatsoever,
here's a match. But they just brought her back, so
maybe they have something. So I'm not gonna dump on
(14:27):
that just yet. But Kevin owens Man, I feel he
should be playing in major stories all the time. I
think it's unfair to use him in stories that if
anyone else was trying to sell it, there's just no
way that the story would work or that you would
invest any time. But his level of commitment and his
(14:48):
his talent and his ability to execute that talent in
the ring and on the mic is next level. So
he's like writer or proof right, Like there's actors used.
All have seen movies where you're like, YEO, this movie hucks,
but actor X is rocking the ship out of this,
so almost stick with it, whether whether it's male or female.
And you might like the dog to air Bud movies
(15:10):
and you're like, Yo, this movie sucks, but man, a
dog hit a home run, Like whatever it is, it's
the lead of that that film that that makes you watch,
you know, irrespective of the words coming out of their mouth.
Oh how you like that? Mr who wrote Grandeur? In
your question? I just hit him with irrespective, I'll just
hit you back. So that's how I feel about that.
(15:31):
It's hard to say is underutilized. I just feel maybe No,
I'm sticking with that. He should be a major title player.
He should always be competing or up near the top
with say Cody, Seth Roman, Bobby, anybody who's a at
world championship level. He should be involved with one of
their character storylines at all times. Alright, Next question from
(15:55):
mL Gavin if you could watch this is a good question.
If you could watch two celebs fight in a TLC
match that's tables, ladders and chairs for all you civilians,
who would they be? This is good, all right, I
like this very much. Two celebs in a tables, ladders
and chairs, and so basically, who do I want to see?
(16:20):
What two actors do I want to see just get annihilated?
I would We're gonna do. I might give you two matches. Alright.
First of all, check peete this. I already have the match.
And these are two friends of mine who I love
very much, and both of them love wrestling. But I
would love to see Seth Green, which is Scott Evil
if you guys don't know who that is versus Mcaulay Culkin.
(16:42):
I don't have to tell you what movies he was in.
In a tables, ladders and Chairs match, They're they're smaller
than Luca Doors. They would literally fly. If he jumped
off a ten foot ladder, it would look like it
was thirty feet up. I would love to and I
love them, and they would get hurt. Would I would
visit them in the hospital and give them kind words.
(17:04):
But Seth Green versus Macaulay Culkin in a TLC match,
and on the women's side, I'm putting Rachel Lee Cook
in there against Jennifer Love Hewitt, and Rachel Lee Cook's
going over big, big, and it's a squash match. And
I'm not giving the women less time because I'm a misogynist.
(17:24):
It's just because Rachel's so powerful and unpredictable that she
just annihilates Love in less than three minutes. I give
him three minutes with entrances, and I get Seth in
seven Mack, I give him thirty five minutes. That's my
favorite question of the day. Not the best question, mL Gavin,
(17:44):
but my favorite question. Our next question is from Aliva
Underscore Andrew call you Olive. We're gonna call you alive.
How's that all right, Olive? If you could pick, oh, okay,
if you could pick any wrestler in the history of
the business to be the top guy in your new company,
who would it be. So this is pretty easy because
(18:06):
you don't just want to go to who was super successful.
You have to go to whom had the biggest cultural impact? Right,
cultural impact where people who didn't even know wrestling knew
who your top guy was cultural impact, so they'll go to.
For most people around our age would probably be Hulk Hogan.
(18:29):
But I'm not a Hogan guy. I was I was
like the bad guys. I was an Andre the giant guy.
So if I was going to do cultural like we
could go hardcore like down in Mexico and go Al Santo. Right,
who's probably I mean, you could argue as on the
Mount Rushmore of cultural impact and professional wrestling. If you
don't know who he is, that's okay, I'm not here
(18:50):
to dump on you. Just look up his impact in
Mexico and you'll you'll you'll see man do birthday as
a holiday. I think you have to go stone cold
Steve Austin because it was the ultimate fantasy, which was
punching your boss. Well, if your boss was cool, then
you don't have this fantasy. But for the working man,
(19:12):
for the blue collar man and woman for that matter,
stone Cold represented everything you wanted to do but couldn't.
And you knew maybe your boss is bigger than you,
so you couldn't throw a punch because he whooped your butt.
If you lived through Stone Cold's eyes, that wasn't gonna happen.
You were, you were getting the w So I think
I'd have to start it with Stone Cold Steve Austin.
(19:34):
I mean, his presence is still felt with the what
chant today in any wrestling federation. I don't know if
they do in Japan, I don't think. So that's so respectful,
the crowds are so insanely respectful. But everywhere else it's
still done. So I think you gotta go with with
the rattlesnake stone Cold, Stephen. He was getting he was
drinking beer on live TV. Man like that. He got
(19:55):
away with a lot at one True Richie. Has there
ever been a talent that pitched an idea to you
that you didn't think would work but did? That's a
pretty good question. I mean, we spoke at length about
the Dolph Ziggler. We did an episode dedicated to the man,
but he didn't come up with that. Brian Gowertz came
up with it, and Vince came up with the gimmick
(20:17):
of him just introducing himself. And I did not think
that was gonna work at all, and I was dead
as wrong. But as far as a wrestler pitching me
an idea that I then later saw that worked. Man,
I'm trying to think this doesn't exactly go to your question.
But I worked with E C three back when Ann Next.
(20:38):
He was like a like a mentor show, like young
rookie wrestlers, even though they weren't rookies. They're working with
a w W a mentor to learn how to wrestle,
and he was one of them, and they gave him
like this goofy gimmick where he was like a comedy
guy and he was always kind of pitching more serious stuff.
But I didn't think it wouldn't work. He just wasn't
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gonna have the opportunity to get that bit over at
that time because they just didn't see that. They wanted
silly stuff. And then when he went to t NA,
he became that guy, and that gimmick got over real quick,
and he got that over really well too, and he's
still working that gimmick today. But none of us was like, yeah,
that's not gonna work. It just that that wasn't gonna
(21:22):
happen for him. He wasn't going to receive that type
of an opportunity there. So that's as close to answering
that one as I can get. Rich all right, This
one is for at merk Z Underscore Maverick. If you
had an opportunity to develop any type of video game
for consoles, what type of game would you choose? And
why is your show so dope? Love you? All right,
(21:42):
So we'll get a little off topic here. This will
be our side quest for the day. Two of my
favorite worlds have been done already. The Wild West, which
read Dead Redemption Too is a perfect game. They've already
done that. So I don't want to do something that
someone else has done perfectly because I wouldn't be able
to make it as good. And their stories and that
were great too, and they pulled from the same movies
(22:03):
that I would have pulled from. I wrote a Dungeons
and Dragons story, a much longer one for the up
Up Downtown people at w w E. I was there
dungeon Master for season three and wrote like a five
and a half hour story for them that they broke
into I think four or five episodes. Originally we're talking
about doing another one and making it much longer. And
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it was literally the wild West and a lot of
Red Dead Redemption too was in there, a lot of
it with my own stuff. I did a lot of
uh but we still they do it, so I don't
want to spoil it. But yeah, so I wouldn't want
to do that, so I'll go with this. I was
a huge cyberpunk nerd. I have, over the pandemic written
a custom futuristic ish table top role playing game that
(22:50):
I can't say the name of yet, maybe I have
on social media already. It's called Asphalt and Augments, and
it's basically if Street out Laws and Cyberpunk took mushrooms
and had a baby, I would probably create something in there.
Because the Cyberpunk game was not what it should have been.
(23:10):
I know they did an update and improved it a lot,
but it was it was not. It just wasn't as
special as it should have been. And that's not all
the developers fault. You know, most of it is the
studio's fault. These release dates that they insist on having
to make themselves look Hollywood, even though they fall hate
Hollywood is so stupid. Games and movies with this quarterly crap.
(23:32):
Once things got publicly traded, you were getting movies made
without scripts, without scripts. There was a movie called The Avengers,
not the Marvel one. It was with Ray Finds, Uma
Thurman and Sean Connery is the villain, and it was
based off you know, it was an intellectual property, based
off an older show or whatever. Yeah, show called the
(23:54):
Avengers whatever it was, British, British show. They legit started
filming without a script. They started filming a movie without
a script because they had to get out x amount
of films quarterly, and this had been approved by their
publicly traded company. Would be based on we have this cast,
this sector of this sector in this sector. And it
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was they were starting to do analytics saying this actor
equals this amount of revenue with the box office, instead
of hey, let's get some good actors and make a movie.
Once all this stuff became corporate, man, to get a
good game, you have to really give it up to
the developers who have to not drive over speed bumps.
I mean they're driving over the Grand Canyon, only there's
(24:36):
no bridge. They got to jump it and hope they
don't end up like Thelm and Louise. So shout out
to video game developers everywhere. And this ends our side quest.
P F t Asia Tour. We're gonna make your name
very European. Did you ever sneeze around Vince McMahon, I
(25:00):
don't think so. If I did, I didn't care. I mean,
it's a it's a normal thing. I know, I've heard
all like the gross stories and all that, but he
just plays it up, you know, and he doesn't like it.
But who wants to get sneezed done? Who wants to
get sick? Nobody? But I think that's been blown up
more than it actually is. Or when I worked there
(25:21):
at one point it had been a real thing. But
even he kind of played it up a little bit
at this point. But I never got in trouble for sneezing.
Damon Moves is our next question er. I'm gonna try
to refrain from asking you any She's all that questions.
Everyone thinks a w W E writer is a dream job.
But what are things that fans don't know that would
(25:42):
ruin their expectations of the job, pressure, deadlines, etcetera. We
just spoke about deadlines in our previous video game segment. Well,
I mean, if it's your dream job, I don't know
what this is. This is tricky because I look, all
writers jobs can be difficult in the modern age. If
(26:02):
you knew how many rewrites the script went through from
the moment of studio buys it to the movie you
see on screen, you would vomit in in pity for
the original writer. Because sometimes there's five six writers on
a single script. A lot of them don't even go
credited and just get paid a little bit extra to
not be credited. The writer's life again in the in
the corporate modern world is is hell. It's hell. And
(26:28):
the notes you're getting you have to remember you're getting
notes from people who have never written a script, who
have never been to college and taught a class on screenwriting.
They just want to put their fingerprints, meaning their ego
compels them to give a note. They want their fingerprints
on something so they can say when they go, oh,
I like this, they go, oh, well, I had a
great deal to do with that. This was my note,
(26:49):
and that's okay. That's a human instinct and there's nothing
wrong with that, but an assertive artist to protect their
own ideas, their own creativity. When something they know is
bad for what they've created, they must say, I'll try
to make that work, but if I can't, we're going
to have to cross this bridge again. And it's important
(27:12):
that writers are straight up, incredibly important that they're straight up,
and a lot of them getting nervous because the person
buying their script is their boss, and they feel entitled
two notes, and they are. It's a natural human instinct,
but a lot of times those notes get you so
far off what the original idea was, and all the
(27:35):
note givers are so inside the forest that they don't
see outside, that they only see it from their tiny prism,
and it destroys ideas. So that's something if you're an
aspiring W W E writer that you can get or
any type of writer you can get ready for emotionally,
because it's a roller coaster, and it's hell not a
good one. It's not six flags, it's not what was
(27:59):
that sick one in Colorado? Elitch Is, it's not is
it sucks. It sucks very rare. Do you get something
through with no notes? I think I had one promo,
well they didn't touch my Jeff Hardy stuff, but an
Undertaker promo they got zero notes from anybody and everyone
that that was a big deal. But that's a big
(28:19):
deal in Hollywood too. I mean everything it gets changed
so so much. And even the actors on script sometimes
they're changing lines. If what you wrote that reads beautifully
sounds horribly coming out of their head, they're not gonna
want to say that, they're gonna want to change it
and make it more of their own. So any type
of writer outside maybe a novelist where you just have
(28:40):
an editor, I think it's just a hell crap job
and you shouldn't do it. Mike f and Murphy, Yeah,
this is my Mike Eff and Murphy voice. When you
open your own promotion, are we gonna get to see
you take some bumps? I want to see that jiu
jitsu in action too, O F and No, I'm no
(29:02):
not taking bumps. And it really isn't to be about me.
I wanted to be well, let me say this. If
I have to be in it to get it sold,
on TV. When it's ready to go, then I'll be
in it. It would be in a minor way, but
I would find a way to make that work. But
(29:23):
in no way, shape or form will I be inside
a ring in between the start and finished bell. No way, dude,
no way, that's not That's not what I want to
do with with my brand. That's not really who I
am at this age, maybe in my twenties. But I
appreciate you wanting to see me. I respect that. Craig Fraser, Frasier,
(29:44):
We're going Fraser now, we're gonna mess it. We're gonna
go Frazer like Fraggle Rock. If you could go back
to two one and book a d X versus n
w O Invasion angle, how would you book it? And
who goes over? Look? Man, d X is winning. I
know that Hunter. I wasn't Hunter's favorite person when I
worked there, but before the Jeff Hardy thing, he and
I were cool, man like, we showed each other respect.
(30:05):
It was the Jeff thing that that kind of turned
him off on me and and had him keep specific
wrestlers away from me. But as far as as Triple HS,
the wrestler like, that's d X all day, and this
would be the quickest booking ever because I would have
had that tank goes straight through the wall of that arena,
having him go in there and just beat up everybody,
(30:27):
and just have it be a full unshoot invasion where
we're having to pay for the construction of an arena
and Georgia. So that's how I would book that death
Death to the n w O, which leads us to
our next question from Whale Wolf Jones. This is Sean Connery.
What's something you she in today's Pro Wrestling Loungeescape but
you don't see your shelf doing with your promotion. That's
(30:49):
a pretty good question, Mr Connery, I mean Mr wolf Jones. Sorry,
it's such a good impression. Tricked myself. I don't want
any supernatural stuff in my promotion. That something that I
think can work for some people. It certainly has. It
was a career for the Well, almost an entire career
for the Undertaker, minus the American badass years, which he
(31:10):
still managed to pull up. It certainly worked for Kane,
It even worked for Bray Wyatt to the eyes of
a lot of people. I know there's vocals, but there
no no But for most people, Gray White or the Fiend,
I should say, worked for a lot of people, but
I'm not looking for supernatural stuff out of mind. That's
not to say it won't be there won't be room
for it to be a little darker. Optimal universe spelled
(31:33):
una verse. Have you ever played the tabletop game Rumble Slam? Okay,
I've heard of this game. It's a fantasy wrestling so
thank D and D for Wrestling. Okay. I have heard
of this game A long time ago. I did a
stream I think it was probably on Twitch for for
Wizards of the Coast and it was called D and
D w Dungeons and Dragons Wrestling, and it was run
(31:54):
by this actor who does voice work for all the
anime that you've seen. I don't like the term voice
there because he's an actor. He just does voices. But
we're all actors. I hate that crap. On Star Wars,
what was it side Quest? On Star Wars Rogue one,
they had the actors that were considered the live action
actors separate from the voice actors on the red carpet
(32:19):
when they took the picture of all the actors in
the movie, and I just thought that was so disrespectful.
To the other actors that were in that film, because
it's all such a powerful part of the process and
to just overlook them like that, it's like, oh, wow,
you really don't appreciate him. We know you don't financially,
but that's like next level. That's artistically. You're not respected
(32:41):
and that's crazy. His name is KG Vontagne and he's awesome. Okay,
he runs a Monster's only wrestling D and D league,
so you can't be like you have to be a
monster to be in it. And I was an owl bear,
which is a half hour half you get us to bear.
(33:01):
And I was an indie wrestler. My inspiration was Kevin
Owens and I was cursed to understand and speak every
language of every culture, beast, whatever, except my own, by
a wizard long ago who I ate. By the way,
it was their final episode and I beat everyone's ass
because you know, your boy represented and I am because
(33:23):
that was their final episode and they didn't get picked
up for another season. That's how That's how much of
an impact I made. I am the D and D
w Wrestling Champion, so put some respect on my name
when you tweet me, it's champion And what was my name?
I think it was Horace, Horace the Albert and he
was bad Yeah, he was. He was badass. But I
(33:44):
need to get this game. When I get off this podcast,
I'll order it off of Evil Amazon because it's not
at the game shop that I go to. I know
that for a fact. And support your local game shops
if you don't find one close by and and purchase
there instead of Amazon, and definitely keep them in business
and your friends and family. Well, thank you for having
such great games to play. And our final question of
the day, and I love doing this episode with you guys.
(34:05):
Is there any wrestlers you have your eye on for
your promotion and is there any new match type ideas
you have? Okay, what can I say here? New match types? No?
I was pitching ideas back and forth or tossing ideas
that at m JF, and it obviously deteriorated quickly into
jokes back and forth. The worst match we came up with,
(34:26):
I think was a trapeeze match suspended the line between
two elephants, and halfway through the match we pull the net.
I think is eventually where it was, but I promise
I'm not going to do that it'll be more old school,
more traditional style matches. It'll be the world around it
that is different. And are there any wrestlers. Yeah, this one.
(34:47):
I even said on social media. Somebody said, hey, you
should think about Killer Cross for your new promotion, and
I retweeted, he already knows, like I've I've spoke to
him months ago at the moment his con trek was
no more at w w E. Oh buddy. I randomly
had a FaceTime with him, and when he was on
the road with John Morrison, when John was briefly back
(35:10):
with the w w E and they had him and
crossed cruising together. Johnny just ruled randomly FaceTime me from
time to time, which is so much cooler than a
text or a phone call. I love it when old
friends FaceTime and I get to see their face and
see their big smiles. He panned over to Cross and
I was like, oh, I pop big. I was like,
oh dude, what's up? Man? I said, you and your
girl are like like the Satanic, super hot macho man
(35:32):
and Elizabeth and he laughed and choked and I said
this before they pulled him up to the main roster.
I said, man, I love what you guys are doing
over there for real, and so that's when he and
I first met, so as soon as he was gone,
he was one of the first guys that I reached
out to where I was like, hey, man, you know,
whatever you signed, make sure the contracts up in about
a year and a half. Eis. But but yeah, so
Cross is definitely a cat that uh that I like.
(35:53):
There's a lot of guys out there. I can't just
throw everybody's name out, but since I said that one
on on Twitter, it's okay. A lot of y'all reached out.
A lot of indie wrestlers reached out, so it was,
you know, I can't get back to everybody, but I
checked out a few that were like, yo, look at
my work list and that that had links there. There
were some people that were like, hey, give me a
job and there's nothing I can do with that, and
I'm a year and a half out anyway, but I
(36:14):
looked at a few links. I was like, dang, man,
Like I saw this one dude. I was like, damn,
I'll call his ask for sure, but I can't say
any names yet. Uh he was legit. So so yeah,
I'm I'm working hard on that and I love doing
this episode. Thank you, guys for all of your awesome
questions that made me laugh. A couple of them made
me think, a couple of them are really good guys.
(36:36):
Thank you so much for listening. This has been the
end of season one of Wrestling with Freddy, but not
the end of our show. I think each and every
one of you so much for joining this journey with
us and for joining the Federation, and I look forward
to talking to all of y'all next season with all
kinds of new crazy stuff that we're doing. So thank
you for listening, and thank you for joining the Federation.
(36:58):
This has been a production of My Hearts Michael to
podcast Network. For more podcasts for my Heart Radio, visit
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