July 3, 2024 • 21 mins
This week Jeff and I have a special guest in the Frederation arena. We sit with WWE Superstar Chelsea Green. We discuss her journey in the wrestling industry, from Lucha Underground to Impact to NXT. We also talk about her character evolution and the recent success she has had showcasing her wrestling skills. Chelsea also shares her goals outside of wrestling and the importance of competition in the industry.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I actually all in.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I was already signed to WW, but I did not allow.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
WW to have my start date before all in.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So I did all in and I went straight to
the performance center to WW. And then, of course, as
you know, we've had the firings, we've come back, we've
done it all since then, and.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Now you're made even introducing the hosts are Wrestling with Freddy,
Jeff Died and for ready friendce tune.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Hello, everybody, welcome back to a brand new episode of
Wrestling with Freddy. It's wrestling with friends because with me
as always is mister Jeff Dye. And we have a
very special guest, but you don't get to know who
yet because we haven't started the show. It's going to
start right now. Let's go all right, everybody, thanks for
tuning in. We're gonna get right into it. That's why
I'm speaking so quickly, because we have a guest and
(00:54):
I want to get as much time with her as
we can. Ladies and gentlemen all the way, well for
more Land, but originally Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. We have
Miss Chelsea Green or missus Matt Carkdona, whichever you would prefer.
Us to call you, my dear.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I really think that he is mister Chelsea.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yes, I could not agree.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Well, we did call him that when we had him on,
we did call him that. We called him mister Chelsea.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Games.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's actually how everybody should be referring to him from
here on out, now that we've put it out there
for the universe.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Well, I love your husband, and we both love you,
and I want to talk before we get into what's
going on right now, which I want to spend the
most time on. Give us like the quick rundown all
the way from like Lucha Underground where everybody talks about
the feud that you were a part of in there
to impact to NXT. However you want to do it,
just tell us and tell our listeners your story. Please.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So it starts in twenty fourteen. I was going to
school for kinesiology. I thought I was going to be
one of those little hotty Toddy on the internet personal trainers.
I thought, this is it for me before personal training
really like popped off online. So I'm going to school
for kinesiology and I'm sitting at my computer doing my homework,
and on the TV comes Monday Night Raw and I
(02:08):
am like most fans. I did not watch it after
I told myself it was fake. You know, we hit
like fifth or sixth grade. Someone tells us wrestling is fake,
and we're like, never again, are we going to watch
Stone Cold Steve Boston.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And damn those people. By the way, damn.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Those people because now I know better. I'm on TV.
Naomi and Nikki Bella were wrestling and I was like,
I could totally do that.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That looks so easy, which is also so crazy that
I would even be that delusional.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I googled how to be a WWE diva and that is.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What started my whirlwind year of twenty fourteen, where I
ended up holding a microphone for the first time on.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Monday Night Raw.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I ended up getting a try out, going straight to
Tough Enough, where they told me not once, but twice
that I was going to get a contract, only to
never give me a contract, which then snowballed into Impact
hiring me me winning the Knockouts title at Impact traveling
the world working in Japan, which then led me to
(03:14):
again thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Ww was going to hire me.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I left Impact on the night that I was the
Knockout champion. I gave my my notice WW did not
hire me again, so thank god, you know, with one
door shutting, another door opened, and that next door was
Luca Underground. I had no idea what I was getting
myself into, but I am one of those people where I.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Will never say no to any opportunity. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
If you want me to stand on my hands and
dance like a clown, I will do it, and then
I will decide.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
If I want to continue.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So I did on the ground and it was the greatest,
I mean the greatest few weeks of my wrestling career.
I had no idea that that would really propel me
into kind of another universe of intergender wrestling, I.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Guess, and lucha.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
From that came All In, which was, I mean also
just a historic moment in wrestling for a bunch of
indie talent to come together and put on one of
the greatest shows ever. I actually all In. I was
already signed to WW, but I did not allow WW
to have my start date before all In. So I
(04:32):
did all In, and I went straight to the performance
center to WW. And then, of course, as you know,
we've had the firings, we've come back, we've done it all.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Since then okay, so Jeff and I promised to let
you talk, but now I want to talk about what's
going on now, because when you first came in, the
character of Chelsea Green was distinctly not as much a
wrestler as much as a behind the scenes vallet manager
like hybrid type character. But in the last few weeks,
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they've let you go and you've gotten to show not
just like the LUCA crowds and the TNA crowds, but
now the mainstream of wrestling fans. Now they get to
see this character and they go, oh shit, she can go.
Sorry for cursing, she can go. That's when you know
I'm telling the truth and stuff I curse So true though,
But how much fun are you having currently and how
(05:25):
have you liked the evolution of this character, and how
do you explain the success of the character.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I mean, the best part about this character is that
when I came in and they gave me something, they
just gave me like a tiny nugget. The nugget was, yeah,
we think you're going to be a Karen and I love, love,
love to do character study, especially like in acting. That's
my favorite thing is building a backstory and coming up
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with why this person is the way they are. So
I was doing that week by week, and like I
said to you guys earlier off camera, all these suggestions
that people would get me, I would take in and
add to my character because I felt it was this.
It gave this beautiful underbelly of what this person was.
And now it's it's evolved to Okay, she can still
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be that character, but she can also wrestle. And that
was what I struggled with in between from that Royal
Rumble that I debuted as a character to now where
I'm finding this happy medium of still showing the ridiculous
side of me, still showing a personality, but also making
it maybe believable that I could win, or maybe believable
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that that I might hit.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That move on someone.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
There's this is a push and pull of wrestling, like
we all have this, but I think maybe I have
it a little bit more because I I enjoy character
work more than I do wrestling. And that's tough, that's
that's that's a tough line to figure out. But I mean,
I think I think in the past couple of weeks
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that I've started to nail the balance, and so I'm
hoping it only gets better from here, but I don't
know where I'm going to go because I never know.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Okay, before Jeff goes in here, you can be the
deciding factor on this mustache for the listeners. Only Jeff
has grown a mustache. Now, granted he has a Texas
hat on, so it's working. My fears, once the hat
comes off or he switches to a different hat like
a Dodger's hat, all of a sudden, it's not going
to be right. Where do you stand on the beautiful mustache?
(07:43):
Or is it not so beautiful?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Just first of all, I have to say, I'm Canadian,
so I grew up with hockey players, so I'm very
accustomed to a mustache.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Okay, a mustache does not scare me.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And I will say, if you cross that border and
you go into Canada and you walk into a bar
with a mustache, I promise you the Canadian girls jaws
will be dropping.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So I think he's okay. However, I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Speak for the American right, so I do more for
you in America without the.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Tank you, Chelsea.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
These American girls, let me tell you, they all complain
about dating while simultaneously hating men. So it's like you
hate us. That's probably going to be a factor in dating.
That's use psychos.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You gotta go to Vancouver, bro, just gotta go to
a different country. That's where I'm going to crush.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, just go to a different country.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
You'll be all that it's been going.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I was telling Lee before the show that I've only
had the mustache for about fifteen hours. Oh yeah, we're
in fifteen hours, about fifteen fifteen hours, and I've had
sex with twenty five women and three dudes.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So I'm feeling the numbers.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Don't lie, Chelsea, and I bet that nine of them were.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I don't know. I didn't ask.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I don't ask a lot of questions in that process.
All right, let's get back to you. Enough about this stash.
Thanks for being here. Very happy to have you, big fan.
Here's here's a question I have I liked to We
used to play this in all sorts of jobs I
used to have as a comedian. I would always go
to the comedy clubs and would say, who's the worst
person you've ever had at this comedy club?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And who's the best person?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I like those little gossipy things, and since yes, hello,
who is the best person, like someone you want to
put over someone you you you think, how are they
not more successful? They're my best, my favorite? And then
who who do you hate?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Chelsea?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Okay, so love love, love Ria Ripley and Maxica for
totally different reasons. Me too.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I say I say.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
This all the time, but like Ria, Ria could have
been the top girl seven years ago. She has always
been this good, She's always been this talented, and she
is the sweetest, kindest person, and that's why people don't see.
And that's what I want people to know, is that
her heart is good. Maxine is the same, except I
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love Maxine is like a Victoria's Secret with extreme anxiety.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And I just love that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You love a real society that's just the greatest, the.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Most beautiful person doesn't have any like really doesn't have
any worries in the world, and somehow worries about everything.
And that's why I love her and we bond. We're
two very high strung people.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You just described my wife, and I've never heard it
described that way. I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Guys, look, hot girls have anxiety. Okay, It's fine. Who
do I not like? Probably not many people that I
work with.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
But I'll tell you what, there's a lot of people
at other companies that I don't like.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Perfect tell it perfect. No, you don't know. You don't
have to get any tea. I just should say, oh
you hate you know?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You know eventually you will know who knows? Maybe at
the end of.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Time, I mean comedy. I'll tell you I hate Elizassenger.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
I hate you know, I hate close Do I hate
I hate that David Lucas. Guys, see, that's some tea.
Spread that out. Who do you hate?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I don't know. I don't know who that is.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We're really if we're really talking about someone that I'm
extremely jealous of, that we could just put the hate
word on is Jade and her?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Okay? Yeah, so by the way, so am I more
of a compliment Chelsea?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
That was just like a nice thing you say about
Jade Carr Canadian Joss.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
If I was as jacked as Jade car Gill, I
would have been Batman in the late nineties for sure. Now, yeah, no,
I'm with you on that. Where do you or what
is like? Because you've accomplished a lot in a short
period of time and maybe you're in a transition where
you're like, I've accomplished my goals, I need to set
new ones or what is next for you? Do you
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have a clear cut picture of what you want next
in your career here at w w E.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, I'm definitely one of those people where the minute
that I do something that I want to do, I've
moved on to the next. Okay, I'm I've always been
that way, Like I cannot enjoy something, I just need
to set another goal. And I mean, obviously, right now,
you know, money in the bank is coming up. I
of course want to win money in the bank in
the Motherland in front of all my friends and family.
(12:13):
But for me, when I got fired from ww like
really taught me that work is not everything, and that
is why I started branching out and doing other things
and like testing my improv skills and testing my acting
skills and getting an agent and putting myself out.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
There in different ways.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So I think for me, all my goals now are
outside of wrestling, because what is going to be will
be in wrestling. I cannot control how Triple H or
the writer's book me. It doesn't matter how much you
guys cheer for me, if they don't want me to
win money in the bank. If they don't want me
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to go to WrestleMania, they won't They won't have me there.
And that's just the way it is. And you cannot
keep yourself up at night. All you can do. And
I'm sure my husband has said this to you guys before.
There's three things you can control. The way you look,
the way you dress, the way you act. So I
go out there, I have new gear every week. I
show up with a smile on my face, whether I'm
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high anxiety or not.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And I do my best. So my goals now are
so far beyond wrestling.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's all lifestyle goals and family goals and things like that.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You should drop kick your husband. He didn't tell me
you were getting into acting. He is.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
He lets me be like, he's never seen me do anything.
I don't let him watch my real.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I don't let Sarah watch any like of the work
I do. She has me run lines with her for
her scenes all the time, and she's like, WoT me
to run lines with you. I'm like, no, no, I
have to be alone.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I will go into my studio. I will get in
the other day.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I called in on on Zoom and had someone read
for me so that Matt did not read.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
For I got a question, why for both of you?
That's for Freddy and for you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Like the stress of my partner working with me is
way way, way too much.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah. The only stress I've ever had on set was
when Sarah and I did Freaking Scooby together and I
was like, oh shit, now she's going to see like
all my mistakes, all my successes too.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Do I even know what I'm doing?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, Like that was a no go for me. I
was like, we are never doing this shit again ever.
And then we had to do a damn sequel. But
we were in Vancouver, so we had a good time.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
At least Vancouver.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, I don't know what it is, and people think
it's so funny because they think that for the past
ten years in wrestling, I've been wrestling with.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Matt, but I haven't. We've been so separate.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And he might want me to watch his wrestling matches
or watch him, you know, act or do his musical theater,
but I would rather he sit in the bathroom until
I am done, and then I will knock on the
door and tell him he can.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Come out, stay in the bathroom absolutely as far away
and as sound proved away as is humanly possible. That's
what I That's exactly what I'm looking for. I love that. Okay,
So you got money in the Bank coming up? This
is when I worked there, This is over a decade ago.
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This is one of the most painful matches that wrestlers
put themselves through. You're Canadian, so you're extra tough. I
get that. You guys are cool with mustaches. Are you ready?
Are you ready for a damn money in the bank match?
Do you feel ready mentally, physically, and spiritually.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I think I'm probably more ready than any of these girls.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah. For yeah, so many different.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Reasons, but mostly because you know, one of the last
matches I did with Impact TNA, whatever you want to
call it before I went back to WW for the
second time was of the Mountain, which was a basically
a TLC match in a cage with all sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So like, this does not scare me one bit, and
in fact, I.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Think this could be a moment that does elevate me
with the WW universe because they've only got to see
me do like fun crazy things through the internet.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
They haven't seen it.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
In person yet, you see, Jeff, this is why you
need to go to Canada. Canadian girls are the coolest
when I They're tough, they're super nice, They're into your mustache.
They're they're down to have a beer. Sometimes they'll even
have like a whiskey. They're not afraid of a whisky.
Real goals. Canadian girls are awesome. When my ex girlfriend
broke up with me, I made a movie in Vancouver
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and they were the nicest girls in the universe of
the I didn't cry once.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah. I think that's funny too, because Vancouver is the
meanest of all the Canadian.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Girls, is it really? Where's okay? Where's the nicest, Where's
the nicest.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
In the prairie?
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
The oil girls, you know, get out and Edmondton, get
out there, and.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Saki, Calgary, Saskatche those those are the Those are.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
The Nitoba broads. You need a girl that works on
an oil rig, stat They're going to be strong, they're
going to be jack. Yeah, it's good telling you man,
Chelsea and I are going to find you the love
of your life.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Jeff, you could have a sugar oh.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I'm also very rich, Chelsea. I'm not worried about that.
I'm an old fashioned guy. I like my women dependent
on me.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know a few of you.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So back to Vancouver then, yeah, back to Vancouver exactly
where the mean ones are. All right, Chelsea, we're gonna
get you out of here in the next couple of minutes.
I'm gonna let Jeff close us out with whatever he'd
like to ask. And if there's anything we're forgetting that
you will quick.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I know.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
It's quick show.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh my gosh, so bad.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I barely d we believe these fans wanting more. I
have one secret left.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
That's the secret Joe Rogan does seven hours with his guest,
and people go, I haven't finished it yet.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I'm still working on it. We do seven minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Well, still talking when I drove all the way from
New York to Orlando.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
So yes, I know, I know Rogan podcast.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Okay, I know that you said your goals are maybe
other places, like outside of wrestling. So if that's how
your mindset is, what is the one thing from wrestling
that either you could go back to and be like
this was it, or you could change or make better
or is there a thing that you're like, you know
what that would be the biggest wrestling thing for me
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that I could like die a happy lady.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Definitely All In.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And I think it was just the crowd was so
special because they were there purely because they wanted they
wanted something outside of WWE. They so badly wanted to
support something else, and that just from that moment on,
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I have seen the evolution of you know, other companies
like coming in and really kind of elevating the world
of professional wrestling for everyone that isn't hired by ww
and for me, someone who's been in and out and
seeing every single side.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
We needed that.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
We needed a little more competition. We needed another company
to you know, have like a little bit of a
push and pull between contracts and things like that. All
of that is healthy for wrestling. It's not healthy for
one one person to own.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Everything and I say, I love you, I think you're
so awesome. Yes, iron strengthens iron, and competition is good.
I have friends that were at that All In show
and they felt like they were or they didn't feel
they knew they were a part of something special, and
they all said the crowd that night was like on believable,
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like one of the best I've never ever been.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah yeah, never felt it since.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And everyone's like, but it only had this many people
and you had WrestleMania. It doesn't matter if we were
all there for one goal, which was to make that
show succeed, and it did just that. Because now look,
and I just I think that that's gonna go down
as one of my favorite matches no matter how many WrestleMania's.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I'm in all right listener review time you guys write reviews,
good or bad, I'll read them because I'm not afraid
if they're bad, though, Jeff getn't like it when you
guys get chippy with us, so tread like creep. This
person treaded lightly. This is no creep here they got.
They give us five stars, and they wrote the title
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was a breath of fresh air. I really enjoy Freddy's
perspective as it stands out from all the hundreds of
other podcasts out there. See, Jeff, that's just fantastic. They're
doing it right. And it came from question Mark exc
some point BBB. So that's as anonymous as you can get.
I don't know if they meant it. Chelsea, you ma'am
are amazing. We love you, we love your husband. Thank
you so much for being a part of the show.
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Give my love to Piper. I love Piper. I think
she's amazing too. All right, stay tuned for INDs Sanction.
Thursday is Thursday Show, the show that you guys asked
for and you guys got, and we'll keep doing it
until you hate it. Stay tuned on behalf of the
Great Chelsea Green, the Great Jeff Die. I am the
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I actually all in.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I was already signed to WW, but I did not allow.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
WW to have my start date before all in.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So I did all in and I went straight to
the performance center to WW. And then, of course, as
you know, we've had the firings, we've come back, we've
done it all since then, and.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Now you're made even introducing the hosts are Wrestling with Freddy,
Jeff Died and for ready friendce tune.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Hello, everybody, welcome back to a brand new episode of
Wrestling with Freddy. It's wrestling with friends because with me
as always is mister Jeff Dye. And we have a
very special guest, but you don't get to know who
yet because we haven't started the show. It's going to
start right now. Let's go all right, everybody, thanks for
tuning in. We're gonna get right into it. That's why
I'm speaking so quickly, because we have a guest and
(00:54):
I want to get as much time with her as
we can. Ladies and gentlemen all the way, well for
more Land, but originally Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. We have
Miss Chelsea Green or missus Matt Carkdona, whichever you would prefer.
Us to call you, my dear.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I really think that he is mister Chelsea.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yes, I could not agree.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Well, we did call him that when we had him on,
we did call him that. We called him mister Chelsea.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Games.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's actually how everybody should be referring to him from
here on out, now that we've put it out there
for the universe.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Well, I love your husband, and we both love you,
and I want to talk before we get into what's
going on right now, which I want to spend the
most time on. Give us like the quick rundown all
the way from like Lucha Underground where everybody talks about
the feud that you were a part of in there
to impact to NXT. However you want to do it,
just tell us and tell our listeners your story. Please.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So it starts in twenty fourteen. I was going to
school for kinesiology. I thought I was going to be
one of those little hotty Toddy on the internet personal trainers.
I thought, this is it for me before personal training
really like popped off online. So I'm going to school
for kinesiology and I'm sitting at my computer doing my homework,
and on the TV comes Monday Night Raw and I
(02:08):
am like most fans. I did not watch it after
I told myself it was fake. You know, we hit
like fifth or sixth grade. Someone tells us wrestling is fake,
and we're like, never again, are we going to watch
Stone Cold Steve Boston.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And damn those people. By the way, damn.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Those people because now I know better. I'm on TV.
Naomi and Nikki Bella were wrestling and I was like,
I could totally do that.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That looks so easy, which is also so crazy that
I would even be that delusional.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I googled how to be a WWE diva and that is.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
What started my whirlwind year of twenty fourteen, where I
ended up holding a microphone for the first time on.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Monday Night Raw.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I ended up getting a try out, going straight to
Tough Enough, where they told me not once, but twice
that I was going to get a contract, only to
never give me a contract, which then snowballed into Impact
hiring me me winning the Knockouts title at Impact traveling
the world working in Japan, which then led me to
(03:14):
again thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Ww was going to hire me.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I left Impact on the night that I was the
Knockout champion. I gave my my notice WW did not
hire me again, so thank god, you know, with one
door shutting, another door opened, and that next door was
Luca Underground. I had no idea what I was getting
myself into, but I am one of those people where I.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Will never say no to any opportunity. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
If you want me to stand on my hands and
dance like a clown, I will do it, and then
I will decide.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
If I want to continue.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So I did on the ground and it was the greatest,
I mean the greatest few weeks of my wrestling career.
I had no idea that that would really propel me
into kind of another universe of intergender wrestling, I.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Guess, and lucha.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
From that came All In, which was, I mean also
just a historic moment in wrestling for a bunch of
indie talent to come together and put on one of
the greatest shows ever. I actually all In. I was
already signed to WW, but I did not allow WW
to have my start date before all In. So I
(04:32):
did all In, and I went straight to the performance
center to WW. And then, of course, as you know,
we've had the firings, we've come back, we've done it all.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Since then okay, so Jeff and I promised to let
you talk, but now I want to talk about what's
going on now, because when you first came in, the
character of Chelsea Green was distinctly not as much a
wrestler as much as a behind the scenes vallet manager
like hybrid type character. But in the last few weeks,
(05:02):
they've let you go and you've gotten to show not
just like the LUCA crowds and the TNA crowds, but
now the mainstream of wrestling fans. Now they get to
see this character and they go, oh shit, she can go.
Sorry for cursing, she can go. That's when you know
I'm telling the truth and stuff I curse So true though,
But how much fun are you having currently and how
(05:25):
have you liked the evolution of this character, and how
do you explain the success of the character.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I mean, the best part about this character is that
when I came in and they gave me something, they
just gave me like a tiny nugget. The nugget was, yeah,
we think you're going to be a Karen and I love, love,
love to do character study, especially like in acting. That's
my favorite thing is building a backstory and coming up
(05:50):
with why this person is the way they are. So
I was doing that week by week, and like I
said to you guys earlier off camera, all these suggestions
that people would get me, I would take in and
add to my character because I felt it was this.
It gave this beautiful underbelly of what this person was.
And now it's it's evolved to Okay, she can still
(06:12):
be that character, but she can also wrestle. And that
was what I struggled with in between from that Royal
Rumble that I debuted as a character to now where
I'm finding this happy medium of still showing the ridiculous
side of me, still showing a personality, but also making
it maybe believable that I could win, or maybe believable
(06:34):
that that I might hit.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That move on someone.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
There's this is a push and pull of wrestling, like
we all have this, but I think maybe I have
it a little bit more because I I enjoy character
work more than I do wrestling. And that's tough, that's
that's that's a tough line to figure out. But I mean,
I think I think in the past couple of weeks
(06:59):
that I've started to nail the balance, and so I'm
hoping it only gets better from here, but I don't
know where I'm going to go because I never know.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Okay, before Jeff goes in here, you can be the
deciding factor on this mustache for the listeners. Only Jeff
has grown a mustache. Now, granted he has a Texas
hat on, so it's working. My fears, once the hat
comes off or he switches to a different hat like
a Dodger's hat, all of a sudden, it's not going
to be right. Where do you stand on the beautiful mustache?
(07:43):
Or is it not so beautiful?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Just first of all, I have to say, I'm Canadian,
so I grew up with hockey players, so I'm very
accustomed to a mustache.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Okay, a mustache does not scare me.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And I will say, if you cross that border and
you go into Canada and you walk into a bar
with a mustache, I promise you the Canadian girls jaws
will be dropping.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So I think he's okay. However, I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Speak for the American right, so I do more for
you in America without the.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Tank you, Chelsea.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
These American girls, let me tell you, they all complain
about dating while simultaneously hating men. So it's like you
hate us. That's probably going to be a factor in dating.
That's use psychos.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You gotta go to Vancouver, bro, just gotta go to
a different country. That's where I'm going to crush.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, just go to a different country.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
You'll be all that it's been going.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I was telling Lee before the show that I've only
had the mustache for about fifteen hours. Oh yeah, we're
in fifteen hours, about fifteen fifteen hours, and I've had
sex with twenty five women and three dudes.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So I'm feeling the numbers.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Don't lie, Chelsea, and I bet that nine of them were.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I don't know. I didn't ask.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I don't ask a lot of questions in that process.
All right, let's get back to you. Enough about this stash.
Thanks for being here. Very happy to have you, big fan.
Here's here's a question I have I liked to We
used to play this in all sorts of jobs I
used to have as a comedian. I would always go
to the comedy clubs and would say, who's the worst
person you've ever had at this comedy club?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And who's the best person?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
I like those little gossipy things, and since yes, hello,
who is the best person, like someone you want to
put over someone you you you think, how are they
not more successful? They're my best, my favorite? And then
who who do you hate?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Chelsea?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Okay, so love love, love Ria Ripley and Maxica for
totally different reasons. Me too.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I say I say.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
This all the time, but like Ria, Ria could have
been the top girl seven years ago. She has always
been this good, She's always been this talented, and she
is the sweetest, kindest person, and that's why people don't see.
And that's what I want people to know, is that
her heart is good. Maxine is the same, except I
(09:56):
love Maxine is like a Victoria's Secret with extreme anxiety.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And I just love that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You love a real society that's just the greatest, the.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Most beautiful person doesn't have any like really doesn't have
any worries in the world, and somehow worries about everything.
And that's why I love her and we bond. We're
two very high strung people.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You just described my wife, and I've never heard it
described that way. I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Guys, look, hot girls have anxiety. Okay, It's fine. Who
do I not like? Probably not many people that I
work with.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
But I'll tell you what, there's a lot of people
at other companies that I don't like.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Perfect tell it perfect. No, you don't know. You don't
have to get any tea. I just should say, oh
you hate you know?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You know eventually you will know who knows? Maybe at
the end of.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Time, I mean comedy. I'll tell you I hate Elizassenger.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
I hate you know, I hate close Do I hate
I hate that David Lucas. Guys, see, that's some tea.
Spread that out. Who do you hate?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I don't know. I don't know who that is.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We're really if we're really talking about someone that I'm
extremely jealous of, that we could just put the hate
word on is Jade and her?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Okay? Yeah, so by the way, so am I more
of a compliment Chelsea?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
That was just like a nice thing you say about
Jade Carr Canadian Joss.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
If I was as jacked as Jade car Gill, I
would have been Batman in the late nineties for sure. Now, yeah, no,
I'm with you on that. Where do you or what
is like? Because you've accomplished a lot in a short
period of time and maybe you're in a transition where
you're like, I've accomplished my goals, I need to set
new ones or what is next for you? Do you
(11:45):
have a clear cut picture of what you want next
in your career here at w w E.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, I'm definitely one of those people where the minute
that I do something that I want to do, I've
moved on to the next. Okay, I'm I've always been
that way, Like I cannot enjoy something, I just need
to set another goal. And I mean, obviously, right now,
you know, money in the bank is coming up. I
of course want to win money in the bank in
the Motherland in front of all my friends and family.
(12:13):
But for me, when I got fired from ww like
really taught me that work is not everything, and that
is why I started branching out and doing other things
and like testing my improv skills and testing my acting
skills and getting an agent and putting myself out.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
There in different ways.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So I think for me, all my goals now are
outside of wrestling, because what is going to be will
be in wrestling. I cannot control how Triple H or
the writer's book me. It doesn't matter how much you
guys cheer for me, if they don't want me to
win money in the bank. If they don't want me
(12:51):
to go to WrestleMania, they won't They won't have me there.
And that's just the way it is. And you cannot
keep yourself up at night. All you can do. And
I'm sure my husband has said this to you guys before.
There's three things you can control. The way you look,
the way you dress, the way you act. So I
go out there, I have new gear every week. I
show up with a smile on my face, whether I'm
(13:12):
high anxiety or not.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And I do my best. So my goals now are
so far beyond wrestling.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's all lifestyle goals and family goals and things like that.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You should drop kick your husband. He didn't tell me
you were getting into acting. He is.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
He lets me be like, he's never seen me do anything.
I don't let him watch my real.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I don't let Sarah watch any like of the work
I do. She has me run lines with her for
her scenes all the time, and she's like, WoT me
to run lines with you. I'm like, no, no, I
have to be alone.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I will go into my studio. I will get in
the other day.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I called in on on Zoom and had someone read
for me so that Matt did not read.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
For I got a question, why for both of you?
That's for Freddy and for you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Like the stress of my partner working with me is
way way, way too much.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah. The only stress I've ever had on set was
when Sarah and I did Freaking Scooby together and I
was like, oh shit, now she's going to see like
all my mistakes, all my successes too.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Do I even know what I'm doing?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, Like that was a no go for me. I
was like, we are never doing this shit again ever.
And then we had to do a damn sequel. But
we were in Vancouver, so we had a good time.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
At least Vancouver.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, I don't know what it is, and people think
it's so funny because they think that for the past
ten years in wrestling, I've been wrestling with.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Matt, but I haven't. We've been so separate.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And he might want me to watch his wrestling matches
or watch him, you know, act or do his musical theater,
but I would rather he sit in the bathroom until
I am done, and then I will knock on the
door and tell him he can.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Come out, stay in the bathroom absolutely as far away
and as sound proved away as is humanly possible. That's
what I That's exactly what I'm looking for. I love that. Okay,
So you got money in the Bank coming up? This
is when I worked there, This is over a decade ago.
(15:24):
This is one of the most painful matches that wrestlers
put themselves through. You're Canadian, so you're extra tough. I
get that. You guys are cool with mustaches. Are you ready?
Are you ready for a damn money in the bank match?
Do you feel ready mentally, physically, and spiritually.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I think I'm probably more ready than any of these girls.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah. For yeah, so many different.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Reasons, but mostly because you know, one of the last
matches I did with Impact TNA, whatever you want to
call it before I went back to WW for the
second time was of the Mountain, which was a basically
a TLC match in a cage with all sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So like, this does not scare me one bit, and
in fact, I.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Think this could be a moment that does elevate me
with the WW universe because they've only got to see
me do like fun crazy things through the internet.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
They haven't seen it.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
In person yet, you see, Jeff, this is why you
need to go to Canada. Canadian girls are the coolest
when I They're tough, they're super nice, They're into your mustache.
They're they're down to have a beer. Sometimes they'll even
have like a whiskey. They're not afraid of a whisky.
Real goals. Canadian girls are awesome. When my ex girlfriend
broke up with me, I made a movie in Vancouver
(16:47):
and they were the nicest girls in the universe of
the I didn't cry once.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah. I think that's funny too, because Vancouver is the
meanest of all the Canadian.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Girls, is it really? Where's okay? Where's the nicest, Where's
the nicest.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
In the prairie?
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
The oil girls, you know, get out and Edmondton, get
out there, and.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Saki, Calgary, Saskatche those those are the Those are.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
The Nitoba broads. You need a girl that works on
an oil rig, stat They're going to be strong, they're
going to be jack. Yeah, it's good telling you man,
Chelsea and I are going to find you the love
of your life.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Jeff, you could have a sugar oh.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I'm also very rich, Chelsea. I'm not worried about that.
I'm an old fashioned guy. I like my women dependent
on me.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know a few of you.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So back to Vancouver then, yeah, back to Vancouver exactly
where the mean ones are. All right, Chelsea, we're gonna
get you out of here in the next couple of minutes.
I'm gonna let Jeff close us out with whatever he'd
like to ask. And if there's anything we're forgetting that
you will quick.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I know.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
It's quick show.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh my gosh, so bad.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I barely d we believe these fans wanting more. I
have one secret left.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
That's the secret Joe Rogan does seven hours with his guest,
and people go, I haven't finished it yet.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I'm still working on it. We do seven minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Well, still talking when I drove all the way from
New York to Orlando.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
So yes, I know, I know Rogan podcast.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Okay, I know that you said your goals are maybe
other places, like outside of wrestling. So if that's how
your mindset is, what is the one thing from wrestling
that either you could go back to and be like
this was it, or you could change or make better
or is there a thing that you're like, you know
what that would be the biggest wrestling thing for me
(18:39):
that I could like die a happy lady.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Definitely All In.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And I think it was just the crowd was so
special because they were there purely because they wanted they
wanted something outside of WWE. They so badly wanted to
support something else, and that just from that moment on,
(19:06):
I have seen the evolution of you know, other companies
like coming in and really kind of elevating the world
of professional wrestling for everyone that isn't hired by ww
and for me, someone who's been in and out and
seeing every single side.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
We needed that.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
We needed a little more competition. We needed another company
to you know, have like a little bit of a
push and pull between contracts and things like that. All
of that is healthy for wrestling. It's not healthy for
one one person to own.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Everything and I say, I love you, I think you're
so awesome. Yes, iron strengthens iron, and competition is good.
I have friends that were at that All In show
and they felt like they were or they didn't feel
they knew they were a part of something special, and
they all said the crowd that night was like on believable,
(20:00):
like one of the best I've never ever been.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah yeah, never felt it since.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And everyone's like, but it only had this many people
and you had WrestleMania. It doesn't matter if we were
all there for one goal, which was to make that
show succeed, and it did just that. Because now look,
and I just I think that that's gonna go down
as one of my favorite matches no matter how many WrestleMania's.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I'm in all right listener review time you guys write reviews,
good or bad, I'll read them because I'm not afraid
if they're bad, though, Jeff getn't like it when you
guys get chippy with us, so tread like creep. This
person treaded lightly. This is no creep here they got.
They give us five stars, and they wrote the title
(20:48):
was a breath of fresh air. I really enjoy Freddy's
perspective as it stands out from all the hundreds of
other podcasts out there. See, Jeff, that's just fantastic. They're
doing it right. And it came from question Mark exc
some point BBB. So that's as anonymous as you can get.
I don't know if they meant it. Chelsea, you ma'am
are amazing. We love you, we love your husband. Thank
you so much for being a part of the show.
(21:09):
Give my love to Piper. I love Piper. I think
she's amazing too. All right, stay tuned for INDs Sanction.
Thursday is Thursday Show, the show that you guys asked
for and you guys got, and we'll keep doing it
until you hate it. Stay tuned on behalf of the
Great Chelsea Green, the Great Jeff Die. I am the
pretty cool Freddy Prinz Jr. And this was wrestling with Freddy.
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