AMANDA REIGER GREEN: Using Intuitive Gifts to Understand Your Story

Do you ever have a hard time getting past the facts or details of your story to understand the deeper meaning of what took place? On this week’s episode I talk with psychic intuitive Amanda Reiger Green about how tools like numerology, astrology and even your own intuition can guide you to the deeper meaning that was always present in your story.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pick up the pieces of your life, pulled them back.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Together with the word to write all the beauty and
peace and the magic that you'll start too fun.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
When you write your story.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
You got the.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Words and said, don't you think it's down.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
To let them out and write them down on cover.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's all about.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
And write.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Write your story. Write you write your story.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hi, and welcome back to the Write Your Story Podcast.
I'm alidallon, I'm your host, and I'm so excited that
on today's episode, I get to introduce to you a
friend of mine and the host of a podcast that
I am absolutely obsessed with that is also on the
same network as me. We're both on the Amy Brown Network.
Her podcast is called Soul Sessions. Her name is Amanda Green.

(00:51):
She is a incredible intuitive person who is an expert
in all things astrology, numerology, taro oracle cards, like visions,
and so much more. You'll get to learn about her
today as we chat together. And I'm so excited to
get to introduce you to Amanda Greed. Welcome to the show, Amanda.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Thank you, Ali. Hi everyone. It is great to be
on and it's such a privilege to connect with Ali.
I'm excited for whatever we share today, because when Alie
and I talk, it just flows, and we're always tracking
on the same page and learning from one another. So
I hope whatever we leave with everyone today, you're learning

(01:33):
and you get curious. My big thing is curiosity, asking
questions and maybe a little bit of skepticism, but more
so like why is that? Or I don't know. Those
are the ways I like to look at things because
I need to, or else I get too serious.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I love it, and you bring that energy to your
show too. One of the reasons, probably the main reason
why I reached out to you to ask if you
would do this interview is because I have started listening
to your show obsessively. I've listened to your show on
and off ever since I joined the network about a
year ago, but recently I've just been listening to episode
after episode after episode and going back in the archives

(02:10):
and listening to episodes. You did a numerology episode that
I went back and listened to. There were a few
of them, and I've been learning so much from what
you're teaching, and I started thinking so much of what
you're talking about on your show. They're helpful tools to
help you in the process. Of understanding your story, like
understanding the events that are taking place in your life.

(02:31):
And so I started to think maybe I could have
you on the show and we could talk about some
of these different modalities that sometimes I think get a
bad rap, especially because we'll I'll speak from personal experience.
I grew up in the Evangelical Christian Church, and so
things like oracle cards get a really bad rap, and
I think get painted in this horrible light like that
they're this evil thing. And I want to kind of

(02:53):
debunk that a little bit and talk about what a
valuable tool that they can be as we explore what
it means to better understand our place in the world
and our purpose in the world, and who we are
and what we have to contribute. And you do such
an incredible job about on your show, I wanted to
introduce you to my listeners and give you an opportunity
to talk about some of those things here.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Thank you, and I love how you bring personal story
to things. Write your story. So much of my spiritual
development has been about the journey, and sometimes I don't
understand in the journey, and I come to my knees
and I have to say, God, show me, because I
don't know the answers. And other times God puts people

(03:34):
and experiences where they're whether they're beautiful or tragic in
my way or in my periphery, in order for me
to learn and to grow and to strengthen my faith.
And I grew up in the Episcopal Church. My father
was an Episcopalian, and my mother was brought up in
a more evangelical background and very dogmatic, very evangelical and

(03:59):
pentecost actually, and it was like, if your dress is
too short or your skirt is too short, you're going
to Hell. I mean, like you know. And she believed
that too, and she followed everything to the letter of
the law. And my mom had a my mom is
deceased now, but she had a really rich and beautiful
spiritual life and it grew over the years. And one

(04:20):
of the things that I am grateful for is as
I was growing up, I would always question things. I'm
a Libra by the way out there, if you you know,
if we want to jump into a little astrology and numerology,
I am a libra, and that is only one part
of my astrology. If you're not familiar with astrology, when
we are born, yes, the Sun is in a certain sign,

(04:41):
and it might have attributes that you relate to in
your horoscope, so to speak. But there's also all these
other planets in these other signs, and they're exactly at
these points of space and time that they will never
be in again when you were born. So it's like
the moment we are born is really a UNIQ place
in time that was never before and will never be again.

(05:04):
And there's kind of like a really cool magical psycho
spiritual code meaning kind of your psychology the point in
time you were born God's divine purpose and meaning for you.
And that's what astrology and numerology has helped me dive
into more. But when I was growing up, you know,
I would be at vacation Bible school, and I was

(05:26):
always in a Christian school. My parents put me in
private school, and it was always a Christian school with
a faith based and that was very important to them.
But I would be the child that would come home
and say, look, Mom, I learned today in school about
the dinosaurs and this Palaeolithic period? How does that work
with God? And seven days of creation? When did Adam

(05:47):
and Eve come? And when did the dinosaurs come? It
would confuse me, and I would ask my mom, and
my mom, of course did not have the answers to that,
but she would say, well, I don't know, Amanda. God
is mysterious, God is divine. You trust your faith. Those
are things that we may never know, but it's all
part of creation, it's all part of God's universe. So

(06:09):
she had a way of when I would ask those questions,
she wouldn't come back at me with saying, oh, no,
don't ask that, this is how it is. She would say,
God is mysterious, God is divine. We don't know, you know.
What we do know is our faith. So she always
for as strict as she was in her beliefs, at times,

(06:29):
she always held space for me to question. And that
gave me this curiosity to deepen my spirituality. And it
was really helpful in that sense. And what's interesting is
when I went off to college, I thought I was
going to be a doctor and I was in this
pre med track, and that's the direction I thought I

(06:50):
was supposed to go right, and I actually was not
happy becoming a biology major. I was not loving my
science classes. I was not finding in enrich me through them.
But where I was finding enrichment were through my humanities classes,
and we had a guest religion professor come into this
humanities course I was taking, and he started talking about

(07:11):
the history of religion and where religion comes from because
we have spirituality and we have religion, and where our
religions are developed and in what period of time and
in societies and why certain things come together. And I
was fascinated by the history of religion and theology. So
I ended up getting a religion and theology major in

(07:34):
college because I was looking for God. You know, I
had a faith, and I had more of a religious
belief system that I was pretty devout to. But I
kept reading about all these mystics and spiritual teachers and seekers,
and I would read about Buddhism and Hinduism and the

(07:54):
Jewish culture, the Muslims, because I was learning about different
religions from an academic perspective and reading stories of God
intervening and coming in and I was seeing, you know,
in all of these theologians writings and academics and mystics,
you know, their experience of earning bush moments and God,

(08:15):
and it was starting to open up to me. But
at that time, it was like I was looking for God,
but I couldn't find it perfectly in my faith or
my religion. So I've always been seeking and searching, and
it took the darkest night of my soul to actually
find that conscious contact and that faith that I needed.

(08:35):
And I know you can relate to that as far
as a lot of times when we go through our
darkest nights, it's when God is always there and we actually,
like for the first time, call on God and God
reveals himself to us.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, let's talk about your dark mind of the soul,
because yeah, my experience is the same. Like I definitely
had a faith similar to you all growing up. I've
always been a very spiritual person, and I've always felt
a connection to God and always believed in a God.
Even in the darkest, worst times of my life. I've
always believed in the presence of an all loving God.
But it wasn't until my own dark night of the soul,

(09:13):
which I've talked a lot about on the podcast, that
I started to feel that presence even more deeply. And
it's funny even I talked about this on the phone,
but a lot of times I'll have people say, like,
what did that do to your faith, you know, like
going through that divorce or divorcing a pastor leaving the church, whatever,
Like what has that done to your faith?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Do you still have a faith?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I understand the question, and it's also a funny question
to me because I'm like, oh my God, it blew
my faith wide open, Like my faith is so much
deeper now than it ever was back then. I look
back and I'm like, that was that was a childish faith.
I'm not being degrading of myself. It's just like that
was the faith of a five year old, and now
I have the faith of a forty year old. And
so I'd love to hear what your experience was like

(09:53):
with that too. Yeah, thank you for sharing, because that
makes a lot of sense to me. And I get
to work with a lot of people in their personal
and spiritual growth. And I love more than anything seeing
someone astounding by their innate God given abilities and talents.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
We all have them and we get to activate them
through our faith and whatever. However, our faith gets to
be enriched and a lot of times for us humans,
and I'm waving my hand over here, it's through a
lot of pain. It's through a lot of pain and
anger and fear and frustration of not getting what I
want and not getting it the way I wanted it.

(10:28):
It's self will, it's self will run riot and that
is I was so determined. I am a headstrong, driven
individual that wants to accomplish and succeed. And I also
I'm a recovering people pleaser. I want to support and
love everyone, and guess what, that is not sustainable and
into my very I I've always just been an overachiever.

(10:50):
So it's like if I was doing well and achieving things,
or winning awards or doing well professionally, then I was successful.
You know. My outsides for the longest time, had defined
my insides and they did not reconcile with one another.
So on the outside, everything on paper could be looking great,
or I could have my hair and my makeup done,

(11:11):
but on the inside I was hollow and just feeling
lost and not understanding my value, my meaning, my purpose,
And so that just started to show. You know, the
wheels started to come off, and I was pretty tired
by the age of twenty nine. My big breakdown came
between the ages of twenty nine and thirty two. My

(11:41):
big breakdown came between the ages of twenty nine and
thirty two, and it's like I was not the kid
that got in trouble in high school. I would rather
do well and be praised for doing well. I'm really sensitive.
So I did that for, you know, twenty nine years,
until finally the gig was up. It was like, I
just can't do this anymore. And I struggled later in

(12:02):
life with alcohol. Later in life, meaning my late twenties,
it kind of hit me with alcoholism and addiction, and
it was like this escapism and I know now I
was just searching for God and spirit because I felt
empty on the inside and I was trying to fill
myself up to either feel or not feel. You know,
it was either to numb out or for me to rage,
to have the ability to just be angry and in

(12:25):
self pity and get all of this flood of emotions
that I had suppressed out. And I felt like I
started to live a double life, meaning I would suit
up and show up for work and perform, but then
at night I was a different person and I wanted
to escape. I was in an unhealthy relationship, and also
I was just losing myself and my value and my

(12:46):
meaning and it was really dark, and so drugs and
alcohol were the conduit that took me down. And I
get to live to tell the tale of that, because
I definitely live on borrowed time today and I'm very
grateful for that. But it took that darkness and also
not wanting to live. I mean, I went through this
phase where it was really heavy and dark, and I

(13:08):
would get up and I would show up to work,
but when the alarm clock would go off in the morning,
I would say, oh, I woke up again, you know,
h I have to do this again. And then I'd
put my makeup on and put a smile on my face.
But that was not what was going on on the inside.
So yeah, I was not in integrity. I was inauthentic,
and even though I did well at work, it wasn't

(13:29):
sustainable and so that started to erode. And then I
started to have consequences of my actions, you know, I mean,
like what happens if anybody out there has struggled with
drugs or alcohol or any kind of addiction, you know,
it eventually gets the best of us, and it eats
at the best of us, and praise on that. And
it was like my spirit was just dark and an

(13:49):
empty I was like an empty kind of shell of
a human being. And I had a reckoning and an
incident where I woke up one morning and I was
thirty two and I was tired. I was sick and
tired of being sick and tired, and I didn't want
to live that way anymore, and finally I ask for help.
But I was standing in the bathroom that morning. It

(14:10):
was on Mother's Day of twenty thirteen. And you know,
these are the moments, and I always think this is
important when you have those moments where space and time
stand still, and I have lots of those, but it's
like something greater and bigger and stronger comes through. And
I would not have been able to define this at
that moment. Looking back, it is abundantly clear that God

(14:33):
was there. God was always there, and I was like
you ally, I was never like God, why did you
do this to me? It was more like I'm not
worthy of you God, Like that's where I don't come from.
I'm mad at you God. And a lot of people
do like, Gosh, why am I being punished? Why is
God doing this to me? I was more like I
am letting God down. I am letting my soul down.
I am better than this. But like this of a.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
People pleaser talking to God, I'm the same way. I'm
like eternal perfectionist, please their control freak. Yeah, same kind
of thing. And I resonate with so much of what
you're saying. But it's just like the islet fed off
the validation. And as long as I would take that,
I was good.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
But there there.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Comes a point where that doesn't take you as far
as to take you as far.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, the tools that worked before are not the tools
that are gonna work going forward. And that's how it was.
And the wheels were coming off. But I was standing
in my in my bathroom, and I was like, looked
like a train wreck, right, I am hungover, demoralized, just
a just a pitiful shell of a human being. And
I was standing there trying to brush my teeth and
I was hanging onto the counter and I had like

(15:35):
an intervention waiting for me downstairs. Yeah, and I'm standing
there and in all of my terror and all of
my humiliation, I was like, I surrender. I surrender, God,
you take me. I surrender. I'm open. I'm ready, saved
my life, save my life, show me I'm open. And
I didn't say all those words, It's just it ran

(15:55):
through me. And I walked downstairs and I didn't fight.
I didn't argue. And I had been arguing and fighting
and excusing myself up to that point and trying to
control and manipulate, and it was like, I don't have
the fight in me and I can't fight this fight alone.
I need help. And in that moment it was like
something shot through me. And then after that I ended

(16:18):
up going to treatment. I took FMLA from work, and
in that moment of surrender and asking for help receiving help,
God was always at work, but started orchestrating the ideal people,
places and scenarios to support my path and introduce these
little aha moments, these little miracles, these little synchronicities that

(16:39):
I could see and appreciate and be marveled and wondered by.
Even in my sadness, my loneliness, my trauma again, my
humiliation and shame, I was starting to see God's divine hand,
the divine miracles and magic at work. And I have
hundreds of stories around that, but it's as simple as

(17:00):
I ended up in this treatment facility, and I remember
talking to the VP of HR when I left work
that morning, I said, I'm going to get treatment. I'm
going to a treatment center. I'm getting help, you know.
And I was so afraid to make that phone call.
And she said, oh my gosh, go and get help.
Just send the paperwork, we'll be right here. You go,
take care of you. You don't worry about work. And

(17:21):
like every conversation, and there were lots of adult conversations,
I had to have every conversation. It wasn't like there
wasn't wrath or shame. Yeah, people were supporting me, and
I started to see the light little by little, but
I rolled up my sleeves and said, God, I'm ready
to clean house. I'm ready to own up to this.

(17:42):
And I don't want my outsides not to match my insides.
I want to live authentically. I'm ready to do the work.
And that is when all of my psychic and intuitive
abilities that I have had since a very young age
and I didn't know how to communicate them, it was
like they began to flood in in these mysterious ways

(18:05):
and ways in which I could start communicating them safely.
Because my light was coming back on. I was cleaning house,
I was cleaning out this temple or this vessel, and
I was becoming stronger to be a vessel of light
and share gifts with people and also have the courage
to do it. So it was the beginning of that

(18:27):
spiritual awaking and that kind of ego death. And not
that my ego is dead. It is alive and well
in care, don't get me wrong. But there was like this.
It was like a right of passage, a dark night
of the soul. It was the most beautiful, illuminating and
heartbreaking and tragic moment and it was everything, and it
was God was in all of it right, And that

(18:50):
was a turning point for me, you know, in twenty thirteen,
and everything since then has only expanded. It hasn't always
been easy, and there's been aney of pain through all
of that, but there is meaning and there is purpose,
and I know I am here for a purpose and
everyone is. And that's what I love to see in

(19:11):
people is starting to connect dots and starting to see
their light and their God giving talents and their meaning
and then to start living for it and letting their
meaning live and flow through them.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Thank you, by the way, for sharing so honestly and vulnerably.
I feel like everybody who's listening is going to be
able to resonate with a part of that story. And
there's so much of what you shared that really like,
so many pieces of it that match up with my
personal experience in a way, I see my relationship that
I was in as its own addiction. It was like

(19:43):
an addiction to fixing it, an addiction to making it
work when it wasn't working, an addiction to twisting myself
into notts to make other people happy. So it was
like its own addiction that I had to go through
my own like form of recovery from that addiction in

(20:04):
order to have the life that I have on the
other side of it. But what it made me think of,
and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this, is
about how I feel like maybe those of us who
are more spiritually in tune are even more susceptible to
falling into that trap of addiction. And I use that

(20:24):
word very broadly, Like the addiction could look any kind
of way, like it could be an addiction to religion even,
you know, like an obsession with getting the theology right
or whatever. But could you talk about that, like how
is addiction a mask for the spiritual gifts and spiritual
clarity that wants to come through.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
What you said, resonates. We are human beings. We want
external things to help us feel good, whole, worthy, validated.
And I know for me, you know a gal that
really is a huge spiritual support and guide for me.
She says, Hey, Amanda, if you're putting your value or
your worth in any external people, places, or things, you
are falling drastically short of your worth and value and

(21:05):
what God has for you. And it's like, oh yeah,
that's right. I'm making food my higher power. I am
making people, you know, people my higher power, or of
course drugs and alcohol had become my higher power, my
false idol. What, however, you want to look at that workoholism?
I mean that runs in my family, you know. So
if it's not alcohol and drugs, I already told you

(21:26):
I was addicted to success and achievement and being lauded
by other people, external validation, all working.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Out, eating healthy, like they're always.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
We can transfer addictions and have them in a multitude
of ways. So in an essence, we're all in some
sort of recovery. And I feel like this point in time.
To me is it's like whatever recovery you're in, you're
recovering your soul and you know that divine that is
within you. And when you find it deep down, that
still small voice, and you start talking to it and

(21:56):
listening to it and connecting it, it grows. Whatever you
focus on grows. But what you were asking about those
of us who have more addictive personalities or we string
swing to the extreme, you know that we can mean
more vulnerable or sensitive intuitively empathically, that is true because
we're wanting to feel the way that I experience. That is,

(22:18):
I'm wanting to fill myself up with something that is
external or other because I'm already feeling and sensing so
much in the world and around me, and I don't
know how to digest it. I don't know how to
communicate it. I don't know how to process it. I
don't know how to clear my energy field. And if
y'all think about this out there, you know, when we
are interacting with people, There's a great institute called the

(22:40):
Heart Math Institute, and they they used to have these
really amazing videos on how when we are talking or
communicating with a person, we have these energy fields that
are like a taurus. They're kind of this spiral of
energy around us and it's interacting with the other person's
energy field, and it's showing this kind of confluents of energies,

(23:01):
not just the words that are being exchanged or if
we hug somebody or shake somebody's hand. There's energy being
exchanged all the time, and we don't think about our
energetic boundaries. Are clearing our energy. And one of the
things that I started doing years ago, and anyone out there, y'all,
this is so simple, easy, and it works, and also

(23:22):
I just like it. So here's here's a tip. I
clear my energy all the time. I work with tons
of clients, and if I don't, I'm taking because I
take on their stuff, but I want to transmute it.
So I'm a I'm not taking it on and getting
physically sick or emotionally run down, because that has happened
when I take on too much. It happens to you

(23:43):
all out there, even if you're not working as a
healer or an intuitive I mean, you can be managing
a restaurant. Look at all the people that you have
transactions with in a day, and you don't walk outside
and clear your energy, you know, or just shake it
off like do a little tailor swift is what I say,
Just shake it off like that works. But one of
the things I do is I keep epsin salt next

(24:05):
to my bathtub and next to my shower, and I
don't take EPs and salt baths because water is a conductor.
Water is a really like when we soak in it.
It's great to take an EPs and salt bath if
you have sore muscles. But when we soak in it,
think about soaking in a dirty tub. That's like your
emotions and your energy just kind of like you're soaking
in a dirty tub. So what I do is, after

(24:26):
I've washed my hair and shaved my legs and done
all the things, I grab a handful of Epps and salt.
I use it like a body scrub, and I say,
I am cleansing and clearing my energy. Any low vibrations, fear,
worried out, stuff gunk I have taken on from the
day that is not mine a process, Please cleanse it,
clear it off. Thank you, Thank you God, thank you
for healing this, Thank you for clearing this. I am clear, grounded,

(24:49):
and present and a couple of things happen with that
Salt detoxifies. Water is a conductor, so it actually responds
to the frequencies of our voice. Our cells in our
DNA respond uniquely to the frequencies of our voice, and
the water cleanses and purifies. So that practice in and
of itself is wickedly magical and it biologically works. But

(25:14):
that's an easy way to clear energy. Or like I said,
if you're working in a restaurant and you're just transacting
with people all day and energy just walking outside breathing
some fresh air, letting the sunlight hit you say, hey, sun,
you know, revitalize my energy through photosynthesis, Like, cleanse and
clear this energy. Feel, get some vitamin D. We all
know that's good for us. I mean, sunscreen is important, right,

(25:37):
but you know vitamin D, Like, that's an energy clear
Or walking outside without your shoes on, you pull in
negative ions from the earth. But if you do it
with intention, you say, oh gosh, Earth, thank you for
grounding me, you know, pulling off these heavy toxins for me.
I'm here, I'm present. That little reset button goes a

(25:57):
long way.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, And remember one of the first times that I
met you, or maybe it was the first time I
met you in person at Amy's live podcast event. One
of the things you said to me that has stuck
with me was that when you first started getting these
intuitiive gifts, you would be out in public or at
the grocery store or whatever, and you'd be like picking
up on you know, like so and so's grandma had

(26:20):
something that they wanted to say to them, and so
you were picking up on some kind of event that
this other person was going through. It was like almost
like you didn't have total control over like no how
you would pick up on other people's energies. And even
though I wouldn't qualify your classify myself as a psychic
person necessarily, I am a highly intuitive person. And I
have thought about that so many times since you said

(26:41):
that to me, because I never had really had an
awareness of how I might be out in public at
the grocery store where I don't physically interact with anyone,
like I don't I'm not saying words to people, but
I leave and actually like parts of their energy are
with me because I'm very very sensitive, even if it's
just perceptive. It's like I can tell when someone's mad.
I can tell when they're sad, I can tell when

(27:02):
they're having hard day, I can tell when they're feeling heavy.
And so with the people in my life where I'm
really close to, I'm extra sensitive to those things. And
I pick up on like what my husband's going through,
and I take that on, and then what my kids.
I have two little kids who are you know, they
ride the roller coaster of crazy emotions all day and
so I'm picking up on that and taking that in.
And then I'm at the grocery store and this guy
who I don't even know is I can tell he's

(27:22):
having a bad day, and I'm picking up on that too,
and someone cuts you off in trap. I can't picking
up on that. So I've thought of that so many times.
I'm like, man, I need to like almost like zip
up my energy and almost like verbally say like I'm
not taking that on, that's yours, that's not mine.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, and we can do it with love and compassion
and that everybody right now, And I know your listeners
relate to this, if you're listening to this podcast and
you listen to Ali and all of the wisdom that
she shares, because she is really wise and she knows
how to elicit your story because she knows how to
tell her own. I mean, that is one of Ali's
greatest gifts, and that's what she is holding space for

(27:59):
each of us to do, which is part of my journey.
Is you're a deep feeler, and we're all empathic at
varying degrees, and we all have intuitive gifts. We know
when we walk in a room and the energy is

(28:20):
just off, or you can look at somebody and see
or feel their body language and tell they are struggling,
and it is not necessarily ours to intervene with or heal.
A smile goes a long way, right, Just to kind
look in the eye, that stuff goes a long way.
But also when you feel like you're taking on energy

(28:41):
and family and being around environments that we're kind of
enmeshed in, that's a little more challenging. But it's also
if you can be cognizant of it. There are ways
to just clear your energy. But out in the world,
it's recognizing those things in other people and saying hey God,
hey Soul, Hey high yourself, Hey angels, guides you know,
I mean, you don't have to just call in God, God,

(29:03):
we've got troops, we've got angels and guides, we have
all this divine support saying hey y'all. And that's what
I say a lot of times, Hey y'all. And I
say it respectfully, you know, but I'm like, hey, y'all,
that person needs some love. Beam it to them. You know,
I humanly can't take it on and fix it, but
I can just in my mind and in my heart
beam them intentionally love. And that I think of that

(29:25):
as like care bear staring. Like cause I'm an eight
I'm an eighties baby, so I think of care bears.
And I said that to somebody the other day that
was born in the nineties, and they're like, who the
care bears?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Who were like what right?

Speaker 1 (29:36):
And and but I was like, no, you know, like
happy bear, and but like scare bear staring somebody some
energy and calling in God, your angels, your guides to
beam them love and then smiling, you know, and knowing
that God can take care of that stuff. You don't
have to take it on because we can't humanly save, rescue,

(29:57):
fix all the things we're not bill for that, we
need to really work on our own self care. And
when it comes to your immediate family. That is trickier
because we're around them all the time, and as a parent,
as a spouse, as a sibling, as a child. Wherever
you are, we're always engaging with other people's energy, other

(30:17):
people's stress, other people's mess, or whatever they have going on.
One of the things that I do intentionally at home
and in my space or when I'm with my family.
You know, when we have big family events, I love them,
but they can all be a hot mess. Sometimes I
could be a hot mess. So I bring my aura in.
I imagine my aura, and our imagination is so important.

(30:41):
You know, we default into practicality, pragmatic what we can see, touch, taste,
or feel, but the imagination is the new frontier engaging
those senses. So you just imagine, practice imagining your aura,
and you infuse it with whatever color light you see,
whether it is radiant gold or white, diamond light or

(31:02):
violet or a lot of times mine is like an
aqua color. That's where that's my go to that it
feels the most natural to me. So see what color
comes to you naturally, and then bring your aura. Imagine
that it's in around your body about six to eight inches.
Because our auras kind of they expand out, and if
we don't bring them in close to us, then they

(31:23):
what I call it is they pick up hitch hikers.
We're picking up everybody's stuff, and then we have a
hard time tuning in to our true register, our voice,
our truth, and everybody else's gunk and emotions start to
cloud our own perception, our own voice. So the more
that you bring your aura in, and I do it
sometimes before I go to bed, when I say my

(31:44):
prayers and when I'm falling asleep, like I'm next to
my husband, think about that, like we're marinating in each
other's energy, whether we are touching or not. You know,
so I will literally say, you know, haesel, hey God.
You know, as I sleep tonight, you know, keep my
aura in. So I am working. I'm waking up revitalized
and rejuvenated, but I'm also working in my lane, in

(32:08):
my periphery, and I'm not being bombarded by or confused
by other energy. So my husband can do his work
at night and I can do mine. I mean, I
set energetic boundaries in this really almost miraculous and faithful way.
But also I say it seriously. I take that seriously.
And it takes me two seconds to just acknowledge it.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, that's so important. I think we forget too about
the people who are closest to us, needing to set
energetic boundaries with those people. But I'm just a really
simple example from my life that has been unbolding. In
the last week or so, I've talked about a lot
on the show how my husband's working on this big project.
It's been very stressful. It's been a rollercoaster for the
last really five years, but three years concerted effort to

(32:51):
this project. And last week he went to a big meeting.
We were waiting for an answer on this project. He
didn't get the answer that he wanted. He's gonna have
to go back and resubment and go get the approvals
in a different kind.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Of a way.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
But I just noticed. I was like, man, this is
affecting me so much. And I just felt really clearly,
I'm like, I need to remove my energy from this.
I kept saying to him the day after the meeting,
because it was really just a rough week, and I
just kept saying, like, I'm done. I don't want to
do this anymore. I'm done. I'm And then I realized
I'm actually not done, as in, like I want him
to quit. I'm done from the standpoint that, like my

(33:27):
energy needs to be removed from this, Like I need
to dial back. This is not mine, it's not my
hill to climb, it's not my battle to fight, and
I need to energetically remove myself from this situation because
it's causing me a lot of stress and pain and
for no reason, like it's not even my thing. I'm
not really a part of it.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah, and I know, and you have shared some of
that personally with me, and I know what you've been
walking through, and it's a big deal. You're in a
partnership and this is you know, his project, and this
is you all's livelihood. You know, there's a lot of
a stake here, so to speak, your security, your longevity,
your family. I mean, everybody out there can relate to

(34:08):
money and finances and security and all of those things.
But one of the things that I think of when
I hit that limit of I'm done, because I've been there,
I can't I'm done. And that is sometimes one of
the most beautiful and empowering wake up calls, because it's like, WHOA,
this is not sustainable for me, and this is actually
devaluing me. I am not adding value to this situation

(34:31):
by thinking about it taking it on. I am actually
starting to devalue my energy field, my time, my mind,
my heart, my emotions. And then I'm not able to
show up wholly and fully in the areas where I
can be productive, I be of service. And sometimes we
have to stomp our foot and say that. But those
wake up calls where we kind of get angry and

(34:54):
we get adamant or even little belligerent, been there, been there.
Sometimes it takes that for me to all my get
mad about something, to wake up to Amanda that you
have outmoded your value here and you're overstepping. You need
to get back in your lane and focus back on
you so you can show up and be supportive from
your heart and let him tell his story over there.

(35:17):
And that's the same thing whether you're out in the
world and you're feeling or sensing things from people, knowing
what is yours to take on and what is not,
where you can intervene where you can't, or how you
can be of service. And when we have those moments
not only using our communication tools with the people we
love or you know our people in our workplaces or family,

(35:39):
whatever it may be. Friendships. Friendships is a big one,
but also with ourselves like wait a minute, Okay, what
can I do about this? And I do have a
friend and she say, okay, I'm powerless over people, places
and things, but I am never helpless. And it's like
sometimes we have to get to that helpless, angry place
to say, oh no, some thing's got to change, and

(36:01):
I'm going to take accountability for it. And our energy
field is a really easy place to do that and
strengthening our intuition, and there are multitude of ways to
do that if you are feeling intuitive hits and you
know that you're sensitive or intuitive, and we all have
varying degrees of intuitive gifts. I mean we are all

(36:21):
born intuitive. We just kind of forget because we get
into linear and logical. But some of us see things
like we see visions or we have really vivid imaginations
and we can kind of imagine and picture things and
see it in our mind's eye. That is called clear voyance,
clear seeing voyance, clear voyance, clear voyance. There is clear cognizance,

(36:44):
which is just these downloads and these insights, This clear
knowing where you just know something. You know, you can
hear something you like, oh I know that, or I
remember that, or yes, that makes sense. Or it can
be clear audience where you hear things and I'm not
maybe voices in your head. I'm not talking necessarily about that,
but you hear something and it resonates with you. Or sound,

(37:06):
you know, music like can activate a sensory ability and
you just all of a sudden something clicks or you
hear a clear voice that says yes, do this. That
is hearing. And there's there's multiple ways of clear audience.
I mean, so there's different kinds of extrasensory tools. And
when you kind of figure out your go tos on

(37:27):
maybe what you're number one or two. I think of
this like the love languages. You know, we usually have
one or two that are really turned on, and when
we understand how we give and receive love or someone
else does we communicate better. It's the same way with
your intuition. I have a really good blog on that
on my website. It's the four Types of Intuition, So
it's like a one nine one. It's on soulpathology dot com.

(37:48):
So if you're curious about that you'll resonate with one
or two of them and you'll be like, oh, that's
the way that I get information. Oh, that resonates with me.
And then if you know your one or two, you
can start practicing that and either listening for things that
just are like, oh that makes sense to me, or
when you imagine something you know, really getting into what

(38:10):
that imagination is. And there's just different tools and tricks
to start to practice that. It's intuition is like going
to the gym. It's like any muscle. The more you
practice it, the clearer and more confident you get in it.
And for me and for everyone that I tend to
work with and get to know, it enhances their faith

(38:31):
and their connection with their soul, and they can their
prayer life becomes enwitched and different. They're writing life like
everything starts to light up in this more we are
all divinely connected way or oh I can't believe I
just figured that out, or I can't believe that just happened.
You know, all the signs and synchronicities, they the whatever
you focus on grows and when you strengthen those muscles,

(38:53):
they get stronger and clearer, and then you begin to
feel more divinely safe and directed man.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
And for me, I would love to hear you talk
about what it means to be a psychic and is
there a difference between being intuitive because I feel like
people are maybe a little more comfortable with the word intuitive, like, yeah,
I'm an intuitive person. I can intuit what's going on
in a situation or whatever. But to use the word psychics,
I think that maybe has some more baggage.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
That comes along with it.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Or people are like, wait a second, you're really psychic?
Can you predict the future? Can you know what I'm
thinking before you know before I tell you? So I
would love to hear your thoughts on what it means
to be a psychic. And then do all of us
have psychic abilities? How do we tap in?

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Said?

Speaker 3 (39:32):
If we do?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Do all of us have psychic abilities?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
How do we tap in?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Said?

Speaker 3 (39:47):
If we do?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
You know, admitting or calling myself a psychic, it was
a weird thing. Intuitive, yes, a spiritual intuitive yes, because
I was getting deeper meaning and truth and understand But
I was also getting clear direction for people that was
evidentially based, Like I would say, Gosh, Like let's say
I was at the grocery store and I would be

(40:10):
in the you know, the produce section, and I would
be next to a woman. I'm also a medium, so
deceased loved ones do show up and they deliver messages,
and those messages for me because I just work through
God and through the light in my faith, they were
always messages of healing or validation or something that needed
to be revealed and that person was ready to receive it.

(40:32):
So when I would get those messages, like in the
grocery store, first of all, it was really awkward for me.
I was really embarrassed, and it stressed me out because
I was like, well, what do I say? Am I
going to sound like a lunatic or I don't want
to infringe on this person or I don't want to
say I'm a psychic And it was very confusing at first.
And so first of all, I asked God. I was like, God,

(40:53):
you give me the power and the courage to show
me this path, and you show me because I want
to be a vessel of love and healing and I
want to come from the light. So my intention was
always this is about healing and love. You know, I've
worked to clear out the dark matter and I do
that continually. I want to be a vessel of love.
And what I learned early on is if I would

(41:13):
get a message in the grocery store on an airplane,
there was a lot of airplane moments. Yeah, I mean
that was just always. I'd be like, I just want
to sit on this plane and watch my movie.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
I'd be like leave. But I would be somewhere and
I would say immediately if I would get a spirit
or a message coming through for somebody, I would go
above that spirit to God and I would say, am
I supposed to deliver this message? And I would immediately
get a yes or no. That is a good thing
to practice. I don't care if you're driving in the car,
and I do this one a lot, just to strengthen

(41:44):
my muscles. I'll be driving in the car and there'll
be a car in front of me. We'll turn on
a road and I will say are they going to
be with me the whole way? Are they going to
turn right or left? And like, are they going to
be with me the whole way? And I'll get a no.
And then I'm going to say are they going to
turn right or left? I'll go right and then and
then I just kind of give it up. And sometimes
I'm right. A lot of times I'm right because I
practice this a lot, but sometimes I'm wrong and I'm

(42:06):
just like I wasn't on today. But that quick practice
of little stuff like you could be shopping and park
your car, like you park next to a red truck,
and you could say, Okay, is this car going to
be here when I get back out, and you get
your immediate yes or no, and you go with it
and you come back out and you got your no
and Nope, the car's not there, and you can say, ah,
well that was a fifty to fifty chance. Well, if

(42:28):
you go into that cynicism or justification, you kind of
cut off the magic. Right You're want to follow that
intuition and play with it. But when I would be
in the grocery store, I would say, God, am I
supposed to deliver this message the spirit or this information?
Am I supposed to deliver this? And if I would
get a yes, then my deal with God was I
would have the courage to say something to that person.

(42:51):
And every time I would get a yes, I'd be like, oh, no,
I have to say something now. I told like I
made this deal that that if a message came through
so that I would share it. And what I would
do is if I got that yes, I would just
say something like, you know, hey, I know this might
sound a little bit strange, but I have intuitive gifts
and I'm getting a message from someone for you or

(43:14):
you open to receiving that message. Is that comfortable for you?
And I will tell you this nine point nine times
out of ten the answer was yes from that person
because God was already orchestrating that for me to validate
that I had a meaning and a purpose through my
messages and the courage of me giving those messages. It

(43:34):
was very rare out in the world that I would
get no, I'm not open to that, You're weird. And
every now and then I'll get it. And when I do,
I'm not offended. I'm like, Okay, no problem, have a
really great day, you know. And I don't take it
with me. I go about it as like that is
just part of my story. But when I would get
a yes, I would say, here's what I'm getting, you know.
Or there is a woman coming through and it feels

(43:55):
like she died recently and she had some kind of
heart issue or lung situation, and they'd be and the
next thing, you know, tears would be running down their
face and they'd say, yeah, my mother died six weeks
ago and she had a car pardio pulmonary event and
we had her on hospice and and then you know,
it would all ensue and you know, I'd be in
tears in the grocery store with a stranger and that

(44:18):
sort of stuff would happen. But it was all me
getting out of my way, sharing the message, but also
asking permission, permission from God, permission from that person, and
then going ahead with it. And if I'm not spot
on or just write not like well here's what I'm getting,
here's what I'm How does this relate to you? Or
how does this make sense? So it's all an element
of practice. And like with friendships, so to speak, you know,

(44:42):
like we can sense when somebody is really like you know,
when you're driving and you just think about one of
your friends and you're like, gosh, I need to reach
out to them. Reach out to them. You don't have
to know why or what the interunit if it is
just you know, and I don't mean text while you're driving,
but like you know, when you get to where you're going,
pull over and say, hey, I was just thinking about you,
how are you doing? And then see what comes back.

(45:03):
Because you're really telepathically connected to people and sometimes seemingly
out of the blue, those are the things you want
to just follow up on and see where it goes.
But with those gifts, and as far as an intuitive
or a psychic, one of the things that I am
gifted with is is evidence. And it is not always

(45:23):
my primary gift. But when I am working with clients,
especially when they're really open and their energy field, they're like,
I want clarity, and I really do want to do
my part of it, you know, do my practices and
be open. When they are more open, I can see
more clearly a lot of probable timeline. So I can say, oh,

(45:44):
my gosh, you're probably going to get pregnant in the fall,
and you might have a miscarriage before that. I mean,
stuff like that will come through for me. And do
you think I love to deliver messages or be the
person that says you might have a miscarriage. But what
happens in that space with people, We're in a really intimate,
vulnerable space and it's very confidential. It's very spiritual to me,

(46:05):
and I'm saying this might happen, and hey, I could
be wrong. You have free will, and you also can
write your story, right, you can write your story and
you may not tie through this. You can jump timelines. However,
if you come up against this roadblock, this is not
to break you down or break your spirit. It's because
you weren't quite ready yet, or God was positioning you,

(46:26):
or God has something to teach you so you can
be ready. So if this does happen, keep your faith.
When you're ready, try again, whatever it may be, pray
about it, get use these tools. And then next thing
you know, they'll be like, you're not going to believe this.
You know this happened, and this happened, or someone will
say to me, I mean I can and I don't remember,

(46:47):
but there are so many examples. But I mean, I
had a woman recently and she says, I have to laugh, Amanda,
because you said I was going to leave my job,
we were going to sell this house, we were going
to move and buy this other house. And I was thinking, okay, Amanda,
like this sounds really crazy and outside the box. She said,
all of that happen, and it happened in a week
and a half. We sold our house, I left my job,
we moved, you know, to our dream home in North Carolina,

(47:10):
and now I have this new job opportunity and it's
like all of this stuff that I didn't think could happen.
You said it, and I was like, I did the
things in order to pray about it, to give it
to God, to trust, to be open, and so it
is just it. And again I can't see perfectly. I
see these multiple probable outcomes and they show me the

(47:31):
highest path forward for somebody. But as we all know,
we're human, we're messy, and we take detours. And sometimes
those detours, like if something doesn't play out in the timeline,
I see, it's because I'm human and I'm translating and
interpreting the message I get in that point in time.
But also sometimes we have to learn a little bit deeper,

(47:53):
a little bit stronger. It's to strengthen our faith and
I trust that, you know, if it's not happening in
it exactly the time I see. That's what I always say,
is like, just hear what I'm saying. These things are
available to you. This is part of your story, but
you are a co author in it. You get to
co create. So there's elements of yes, being a psychic

(48:15):
where I can see timelines and events come to pass.
But I'm also really grateful because they don't show me
what I'm not supposed to know or not supposed to say.
And that's my dialogue with God is Hey, God, I
want to be a vessel. But if I'm not supposed
to know something or share something, like I am not
trying to intervene with anybody's faith or fate or I

(48:38):
am not playing God. I am literally a vessel. I
am a vessel, So it takes a lot of practice,
but it also takes a tremendous amount of faith. And
then making sure I'm doing my self work. You know,
I'm not showing up and working on my self care,
whether that's my mental health, working out, eating well, making

(48:58):
amends promptly when I am messy or impatient or snap
at somebody, Like doing my work is just as important
so I can show up more clear and whole.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah, I mean, if your channel is not clear, and
if you're holding onto other people's energies or holding on
to resentments or whatever, then what comes through is going
to be tainted as well. I talked about this on
an episode a few weeks ago about I had a
client who told me that the book that she wrote
was channeled. And one of the things I talked about
on the episode is I'm like, yes, so was every book?

(49:29):
Like that's what a book is, and maybe certain people.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
I think some authors.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Do a better job or have done more work on
clearing their channel so that the message that comes through
is more pure. But every book, it's channeled. That's what
creativity is. It's like, you know, every podcast episode is channeled.
I guess I don't know if you'd agree with me
on that, but I do, like I read, when you're
doing art, it's you're channeling something and you know it's
coming through the vessel that is you, and it may

(49:57):
get tainted or twisted in certain ways based on you
your ego, or you're what you're holding onto, or the
energy that's in your space, but that's what you're doing.
When you make something like a podcast episode or a book.
Is channeling.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
It channeling, And you explain that really beautifully because the
way that I think about that physiologically or biologically is
working with the right and left hemispheres of the brain,
the practical pragmatic with the creative, receptive, and intuitive. And
when when we get out of our own way and
we're sharing our creative self expression and we are using

(50:33):
our experience, our wisdom, our talents, and we're practically applying them,
but we're doing it in creativity, in spontaneity, and it
comes through in the moment. It's just like boom, a
beam of we all know when we are in our lights.
Some people, when they are working and leading and orchestrating
and organizing, it's like when they're in groups of people.

(50:55):
I work with a lot of people, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, you're so good. When you're in collaboration
with other people, it's like, oh my gosh, this makes sense.
Let's do it this way. Oh I didn't even think
about that. Thank you for that. Okay, absolutely, And then
they know how to communicate it or implement it. But
they need community. All of us need community. But there
are other people who are very formulaic, you know, and

(51:17):
they see math and numbers and they are working with
math and numbers, and when they solve a problem and
they're able to apply it they're like that is their
creative self accession and sharing it. So it comes through
for us in different ways, but a podcast or writing,
it's being present in the moment and getting out of
our own way, but also bringing our talents to the

(51:38):
table and also our vulnerability in a really healthy way.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Truly, truly, I think this is one of the reasons
why writing has been such an important part of my story,
is that if there's any way that I get psychic intuition,
I would not have labeled it that way necessarily, like
a year ago in my life. But if there is
any way that I get psychic intuition, it's when I'm
sitting at a blank page and when I'm writing a story.

(52:05):
Sometimes things come through me that I don't know where
they came from, like a wisdom. Almost people will say
about me, like, oh, you're so wise for your age.
The wisdom that comes through me when I write is
not from the small me. It's from somewhere else that
I can't quite explain, and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
I don't have my finger on what the source is, necessarily,
but it definitely comes from elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
So the way that I see and the way that
I see energy. When you were just talking about that,
your whole oric field lit up because you were like,
I don't know, but it happens, and it's a wisdom
that comes from my soul and it comes from Source
and God and it's through my vessel and my voice.
And it's like you just lit up when you said that,
because it's like, oh, I get it. And anytime anybody

(52:53):
out there lights up, whether you're having a conversation with
a good friend and they're able to pinpoint some for
you or reflects something back in a way that maybe
you couldn't articulate it, or you are journaling and you
just can't stop and it just buds through you, or
you know, you are driving and you're like, God, give
me a sign, and then a song comes on the

(53:14):
radio and it's like any of those moments, any moments
where you are finding this, Oh, it's it's I'm in
my place, it's an aha, it's transcendent. Notice it. That
is a big that's a big muscle building practice of
when you notice you are in that high vibrational state.

(53:37):
We usually sustain it for one or two seconds, like
we maybe recognize it or feel it for like oh
like an aha. It's just it's just as long as
me going aha. But if you notice it and you
go one, oh my gosh wow, and then you like
inhale and exhale it, and if you sustain it maybe
for eighteen or twenty one or more seconds, your that vibration,

(54:01):
and that is a wonderful time, not only to feel
the vibration of appreciation, which is even higher than gratitude.
It's a it's a more intrinsic, higher form of devotion,
of oneness. It's it's really it's very divine and very sacred.
If you can hold that in your human body, recognize

(54:22):
it literally, recognize it in the brain, breathe it in
and out, that is a wonderful time to set intentions
or pray and say, this is magical, this is amazing.
I am light, I am love, I know my truth.
I am healthy, I am safe, I am well, I
am healing, I am practicing forgiveness. Whatever is coming up
for you that you might be struggling with, you can

(54:44):
go immediately to that in your mind and you can say, God,
heal this, I am healing this. I know that the
highest path forward is coming. I know that I am
blessed whatever may come to you. You know, I also
say that our pets or children, and I don't mean
to equate pets and children, but yeah, yeah, say because
they are expressions of just pure joy and wonder and
love and unconditional creative energy, because they are just divinely brilliant.

(55:10):
When you have that moment where it's like, Ooh, I
just left you, so I love you. You know that
energy right there is unconditional love. Yeah, you know, it's like,
oh gosh, you're so funny, you're so cute. Yeah, I
just love you. Like that energy right there is a
moment where you are vibrating at and sharing with an
energy field that is so high and pure and light

(55:33):
sustain it. Just be like, oh, this is amazing, this
is radiating through my being. I am love. I am
strengthening my clarity, my voice, my trust, my intuition, my faith.
Help me with this situation. God, whatever you need to like,
but just acknowledge it, and you're gonna forget because you're human.
Cause you practice it a little bit, it becomes more natural.
And when somebody smiles at the grocery store or puts

(55:55):
the cart up at the grocery store for you or
someone is just kind in the world. You notice it,
and then you might have like you appreciate it, and
it expands your energy. And remember how we talked about
our energy fields interacting with other people's energy fields, even
though we can't see them. Guess what, the more love

(56:16):
and light and high vibration that we sustain, it booms
out into the energy field and we don't know who
where what it is touching. But it's like us giving
freely and bringing in more light and love onto this planet.
And we need that right now. Yeah, we need that.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I That's so good And it really just is in
line with everything I feel like I've been learning lately,
which is a lot about moving away from the hustle
and the doing and the you know, just this takes
us all way back to the beginning of the conversation,
honestly talking about performing for validation versus just being joy
and love in the world. I think for most of

(56:55):
my life I've thought like, the more I can do,
the more I can contribute, the more light I can
can bring to the world, the more love I can bring.
But from a place of like, really, I gotta do this,
I gotta make it happen.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I got a hustle.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I gotta, you know, become the best version of myself.
And I'm lately I have been really feeling led to
let go of my tight grip on that and just
relax and surrender and allow. And the greatest contribution that
I can make to the world is not going to
come from my working at it, you know, like the

(57:26):
greatest contribution I can make too the world is going
to come from surrendering to the essence of love and
joy that I already am. And there's definitely work to that,
I guess, like there's pain to be felt through and
so there's an element of work to it, but it
is from a much more surrendered place than I have
been in the past. And everything that you talk about

(57:48):
in your podcast has been so helpful for me. I mean,
for those of you who are listening, if this is
new to you, this idea of like talking to a
psychic or talking about psychic abilities or astrology or numerology
or any of it. But I would challenge you and
encourage you to come to this with a position of curiosity.
Like a man who suggested at the beginning of our
conversation and check out her podcast called Soul Sessions. It's

(58:10):
on the same network that my podcast is on, on
Amy Brown's network. And just like she has in this conversation,
so much of what she contributes is highly practical, the
tact experts, funds, and your energy. She has a whole
episode on numerology and how to read the numbers in
your life. She has another episode on choosing a spirit
animal for the year, which is really a fabulous episode too,

(58:32):
and so many others. So I would just challenge you
and encourage you if this is interesting to you, to
keep an open mind about it, to be curious and
to go listen to her show and get to know
a little bit more about her because she has so
much wisdom and practical knowledge to share.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Well. I appreciate that. I totally do. And you know,
one thing we didn't talk about, that you and I
talked about as a sideline was oracle cards. Yeah, and
I just want to say to anyone out there oracle cards.
There's the taro, which is an ancient practice and it
can kind of be scary and dark, and it actually
has a lot of wisdom and a lot of meaning.

(59:08):
But oracle cards are a little bit different. So if
you don't know what an oracle deck is, that is
a great way and a really beautiful, loving way to
work with your intuition and strengthen, strengthen it. And Ali
and I when she was talking about spirit animals, there's
a great deck, and I'll recommend it because spirit animals.
We see animals all the time, and they have medicine

(59:30):
and energy and messages and the more you see them,
the more they connect. But when you look for their meaning,
you research it, you're like, oh my gosh, that's what
a cardinal signifies, or that's what a hawk means. I mean,
the Indigenous have been doing this for a long time.
It's an ancient practice and it's a practice of getting
back to the earth and nature. But there's a deck

(59:51):
by Collette Bearon Reid, and this is the one I
suggest to you, which is called the Spirit Animal Oracle.
And if you want an oracle deck, let bear and
read has really wonderful decks and they're beautifully written. They
come from love and light and they're so easy to
engage with. But an oracle deck. Get an oracle deck.
And the way that you can use it is sometimes

(01:00:12):
I'll pull a card in the morning, and I'll pull
it like a journal prompt, just like Ali is so
good at suggesting journal prompts for writing oracle cards. I'm like, okay, God,
show me what I need to know today, or what
am I healing today, or what am I needing to consider?
What's my blind spot I'm missing? And then sure enough,
I'll pull the surrender card or you know, or a
forgiveness cars you know, quit being stubborn, whatever the card

(01:00:35):
may be. Or I might pull the wishing well card,
which means you know, we are always making wishes and
engaging with the vast field of creation. Remember that your
thoughts help create your reality. So if I'm having negative
self talk today, that's what I'm sending out into the field.
So Amanda, pay attention to yourself talk today. So an
oracle deck can be a great tool for your writing,

(01:00:56):
of course, but also for your intuition. Or let's say
you've lost a loved one, a grandparent or a parent
or a child, or anyone close to you, and you're
just like, I just want messages. I want to know
they're there, because they are. They're there, and they are
supporting and loving us. We just can't touch them or
see them necessarily. Oracle decks are like, Okay, give me

(01:01:18):
a message for my grandmother today. You be surprised. You know,
when you do it in your highest light, what will
come through? So you know. And Ali mentioned numerology is
a language that comes from my soul, like it's numbers.
Just help me tap into codes and frequencies and energies.
And it's an ancient practice like astrology is. And astrology
is kind of amazing. And whether these things resonate with

(01:01:41):
you or they scare you a little bit, don't do
anything that scares you, like absolutely not. You go with
like wherever your curiosity is sparked and it feels like
it resonates with your journey, follow that and see see
what jives with you. See what language you're like, Oh
I get this, or oh this is wondrous, or oh
this is adding value to my life, or this is

(01:02:03):
helping me heal. Whatever resonates with anyone personally, You follow
your truth, your story and your voice, and more signs,
more encouragement, more tools and resources and people and guides
will show up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I feel like we need to record a whole other
episode on Oracle cards because I'm very, very new to
the Oracle card world. But one of the things that
fascinates me about this and I just feel like we
could talk for another full hour about it. But because
my brain thinks in narrative arcs, when I draw the
Oracle cards, I'm like creating an arc in my brain.

(01:02:41):
Like every time I draw cards, it doesn't matter what
cards you draw. I'll draw sometimes three cards at a time,
or seven cards. There's different ways to do it, and
I just do it based off of the instructions inside
of each deck. But I'll draw three cards and then
I'm just like, oh my gosh, there is a narrative
ark here. There are threads that are connecting this together.
And so obviously I'm imprinting my own external experience on

(01:03:02):
the cards too as part of that. But it just
feels like an incredibly powerful way that my life starts
to speak to me. And this is one of the
reasons why I reached out and wanted to have you
on the show. So maybe we should record another episode
about as we.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Can do that just for other tools and to kind
of dive in and debunk some of those things. But yeah, yeah,
just get curious and also see, like I said that
that blog on my site about the different kinds of intuition,
Once you realize where you kind of track or resonate,
then you can develop that or play with it a
little bit. And for me and for so many people,

(01:03:37):
it just begins to strengthen your faith and your truth
and your meaning. And in a world that can be
distracting and debunking and fear based, you know, we are
in really unprecedented times energetically, with the advance of technology.
There are so many things coming at us in our
field and in a really busy chaotic world. If we

(01:03:59):
can find our stillness and our center and our voice,
we can navigate it with more happiness, freedom, joy, love, compassion,
all the things that I know so many of us
want to be better, to do better, to embody more easily.
So to speak.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I could literally talk to you all day, Thank you
so much. Sure coming on the show. I mean, I'm serious,
We could talk for another hour, but I will have
you back on the show if you're willing, and we'll
do at least on oracle cards and talk about that.
Because Yeah, there's like so much stigma, at least in
the world that I've come out of about oracle cards,
and I've had such a really phenomenal, mystical spiritual experience

(01:04:38):
in the Oracle cards recently, so me too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
I mean I did too, and I never thought I
would use an oracle deck and it happened upon me
and it was all magical and we can talk about that,
and so thank you for having me on and also
our producer Mine and Alley's producer, Elizabeth said, Amanda, be
sure to say this, because I don't think about it. Well,
I'm doing a live show in Austin, Texas, going to
do a Soul Sessions live where it's just a really

(01:05:03):
amazing community and we will come together for a night
of upliftment and healing and growth and connection. And it's
in Austin. It's Austin, Texas, May seventh. So if anybody's interested,
you can check out my website Soulpathology dot com, which
is where my podcast is and all those tools I
was so, I have all sorts of tools on the

(01:05:23):
website that are helpful. So whatever you're dipping your toe into.
But Elizabeth said, Amanda, be sure to mention that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I'm so glad that she did. And we'll link it
all in the show notes too, to make sure it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
So thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
You're so wonderful. I can't wait for many more conversations
to come. Thanks for sharing our wisdom money too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Thanks Ali,