#204 Wrongful Conviction Podcasts PSA - What to Do When Stopped by the Police (On a Jury - Deliberation)

Jason Flom (“Wrongful Conviction with Jason Flom” podcast) and Rabia Chaudry (“Undisclosed" podcast) got together to create a series of PSAs on how to safely respond to encounters with the police. The PSAs cover a variety of different encounters and may save your life. Please listen and share.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi. I'm Jason Flam and I'm the host of Wrongful
Conviction with Jason Flam and I'm Robbia Audrey, attorney and
co host of Undisclosed. We want to talk to you
today about your responsibilities as an upstanding citizen and how
they relate to you serving on a jury. So we know, Robbia,
we're all eligible for jury. Do we all get those
notices the mail time to time and it's you know,
usually a big imposition. Everybody feels like, oh damn, I

(00:22):
got so many other things to do. But I want
to urge everyone to try to change your attitude about this.
We should all view jury duty as an opportunity to
be a very necessary watchdog for those in power and
to make sure that real justice is done. That takes
each and every one of us. But I'm digressing. So
let's say you're in the jury room and the case

(00:43):
is a serious case and deliberations taking a long time.
Everyone wants to get back to their lives, back to
the jobs and families, but the pressure is on to
come to a decision. What are some of the things
that people should remember. Well, first, I want to remind
folks that listen your decision is going to alter her lives.
It's gonna alter somebody's life, maybe forever, So you have

(01:03):
to take it really seriously. Nobody can get through a
trial and remember every single thing that happened. So if
you're allowed to take notes during the trial, make sure
you have those notes, use those notes during the deliberations.
If you don't understand something, if you did not understand
some testimony, it's some evidence, ask the question, make the
question available to the judge. You can send a note
to the judge. You can ask one of the attorneys

(01:24):
to clarify something. Make sure you know every single thing
you need to know before you make the decision. And
if you're feeling pressured by your peers, you do not
have to change your vote. I don't care. If you're
the only one holding out. You can send a note
to the judge and just end deliberation. Somebody wanting to
be with their family, just immediately. It's no reason to
deprive someone else of their family while they brought in prison.

(01:44):
Do not feel the pressure. The judge can decide whether
it's a hung jury or not, but being pressured into
voting guilty or not guilty should not be a thing.
Don't let it happen to you. Now you'll spend the
rest of your life feeling guilty yourself about having given
somebody a lifecense or ten years or whatever it is
for something they may not have done. Remember during nullification
is a thing if you have to, if you feel
in too which pressure said a note to judge, say

(02:06):
I'm done. I'm not voting guilty no matter what, and
that's it and you're done. You don't have to succumb
to the pressure, and please don't. To learn more and
get involved, listen to Undisclosed and listen to the Wrongful
Conviction podcast. Remember, as a juror, this is your responsibility, right,
So it's almost like a juror's bill of rights. And
the more you understand, the better the chances that will
get actual justice, that will have a fairer system for everyone.