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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Two three, starting your morning off right. A new way
of talk, a new way of understanding different because we're.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
In this together. This is your morning show with Michael
O'Dell Jordan.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Welcome to Reciprocal Wednesday. Hey, brother ninth here of our Lord.
Twenty twenty five, somebody asked me, well, you just sound
different than you did, and I you know, I recognize.
I was on the air in Nashville for sixteen years
for a company I made pretty clear when I was
on the air working for them I didn't like. But
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I don't want to be negative like that. And they say,
we just hear a difference. Well, you know, the the
practical answer is I love who I work for now
and they love me, and I love who I work with.
I surrounded myself with exactly who God wanted me to
surround myself with. So I think Red would say this,
Jeffrey would say this, to Bill May, to Chris, to Julie,
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to everybody. I mean, we're all doing what we love
to do with people we love doing it with, for
people we love doing it for. Right, that's the practical answer.
But what really wants to come out of my mouth
is it's no longer a radio show. This is not
a morning talk show. This is a family, a family
going through the process of life together. And whether it's
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understanding or worrying or staying focused and triumphing together, it's
a family more than a radio show. And that's why
I can't have it without your voice. And we never
do it without your voice. So the talk back line
we go. Let's start in one of my favorite cities,
Saint Louis.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Hey, Michael, love your show. Regarding China's Paris, I've got
plenty of patients.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I have no problem. Yeah, we're good to go.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I have no business interests over in China, so yeah,
I'm patients, no problem whatsoever. And I think I speak
for the vast majority of the working class Americans.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Well, I think everybody would want me to also say
to you, you do business with China products, and you
do business with our economy, and you do business with
our market, and it's going to suffer as this work
goes on. Now, it's not going to stay that way
that if this is not a if the President doesn't
have a plan to address this within a month or so,
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I'd be surprised. And I think he's right. Even China
is going to have to come to the table. We
buy way more from them and they buy. You know,
they have a lot more goods here being sold. But
he's got to get the he's got to get those
that are friends on board. So if he's going to
negotiate with Europe, if he's going to negotiate with Canada,
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he's going to negotiate with Mexico and South Korea. He
easy to get that done lickety split. As we saw
in the research. America and principles behind the president, but
they don't have a lot of stomach for pain. So
whatever he's doing, it better be a strategy to get
done pretty quickly, otherwise it could affect the midterms and
then you do do business with America and political influence
all right, always my favorite. We'll skip the something about
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Mary theme song to Idaho and Mary we go, Hey, Michael,
it's Mary.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I'm not saying I've ever kicked out a dope husband
who ended up drunk in a hotel room binge watching
a History channel, but.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Boy, James Carville sounds a little familiar. Have a great day.
James Carver was in our Sounds of the Day.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
He wasn't calling anybody to shave any heads or spin
on or assassinate, but he was just saying it happened
in history as he was calling Donald Trump hitler in
this administration a regime, and any attorneys that were pro
bowl for him, aiding and sympathizing Roger will get the
final state.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Good morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Just an observation I kind of had in the first hour,
and I think it's even more applicable now, and that
is our economy is like, we have cancer. Poor policies
has caused his cancer over probably five decades. So it's
a matter now of surgery, chemo or radiation or all
of the above. We got to do something. It's gonna
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hurt a little, but if we don't, we die, all right.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
It's reciprocal Wednesday. The President's reciprocal tariffs are going into
effect today. Markets are reacting, tumbling in Asia and China.
There are eighty six countries that the President put a
reciprocal tax on and one hundred and four percent on China.
China just retaliated with another eighty four percent on us.
So enter our senior contributor David Sanati, who's on the
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road again. Because there's two kinds of people that go
to the Masters, those that spend week there and then
leave right before the opening round, and those who arrive
at the opening round. David is the former, not the latter.
We'll talk more about the Masters in a minute, David.
We went through a piece of research earlier where the
American people, in principle are three quarters are completely behind
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the president.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
In principle.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They want to see him stick up and restore manufacturing
and creating things and stick up for American workers. So
they're behind him in principle with the tariffs, but they
don't have much stomach for paint that would suggest the
President if this is a process, it better be a
short process, not a long process.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Good morning, Michael, Yeah, I've been listening. I think your
three themes for today are profound and insightful and very
very helpful. I add that if we can get to
the truth behind the polls, and I think the polls
are significant, don't get me wrong, but I mean, over
forty five years you've been doing public policy has hurt
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a lot of poles.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So most of them are pulling what we don't know,
not what we know, right. I mean, for example, let's
go back and reflect on this entire question of China.
Where did it begin.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Let's go back to the Nixon administration when Nixon believed
and Kissinger believed that we could overcome the Chinese Communist
Party by opening trade between our two countries and turning
the communists in the capitalists.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Now they dress.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Differently than they did in the Nixon administration, but they're
still communists to enslave their people and steal everything that
America brings to their shores.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Right, Am I missing something?
Speaker 6 (06:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No? And by the way, yeah, actually actually you are.
And in that wealth.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Not only have they not changed their communist DNA, they
have been building their military in weaponry and boots on
the ground tenfold to its enemy nations.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
With our money, with our money, all this time.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So yeah, and so if you've talked to people who
been business people over there and aren't anymore, they said,
we tried, it doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Okay, Now we've got a problem.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
A lot of things that we need for our health
and welfare are being produced in China, and we're buying
them from China, and we have to change.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Donald Trump went through COVID.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm not necessarily sure he's interested in America being subject
to China when the superbug appears.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And you know, we are just as or as prescription drugs.
I mean, here's the nation that created COVID. It looked
more like a biological weapon to me than anything else.
I mean, just in the actions. And I'm not being
you know, using hyperbole here or trying to be provocative.
Whether it leaked out on accident or on purpose, the
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actions China took to prevent it spread within their country
versus the recklessness to spread it in other countries is unconscionable.
So the very nation that subjected the world to COVID
by accident or on purpose is that we're depending on
for our health.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
How wise is that in the long run? But how
much of this can you do quickly? Okay, go ahead,
go ahead.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
No, I was just gonna say no, I was just
gonna say but at some point, in principle in rightness,
you don't have a lot of time before this could
dramatically open the door impact the midterms. So my take
is the president has got to negotiate with our friends,
and not over the course of two to three months.
I'm talking about in the course of two three weeks tops,
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and get things squared away with Mexico, Canada, South Korea,
the European Union, Germany and countries that are more of
a friend, and then deal with China last.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, you're better at timing than me.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
We talk about this all the time, and I recognize
that I don't know how long we've got it, and
how much tolerance we have and how much of this
isn't the hype from not what you're saying, but what
we're hearing from the people who are walsh to analysts,
because let's face it, they make their living on America's
biggest casino, which is the belief that the stock market
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is magic and it can make you rich if you're
just patient enough with them. So they alleged nine trillion
dollars in wealth that's disappeared. Really, I mean, we saw
this in the Obama administration, the great sell off and
the great Panics and the auto issues and all the
sub blah blah blah blah. You know, the people who
held through came back to a good order. There's a
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difference between money on paper and real money. So people
are protecting their real money because they're skitzy about then
scared about change.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Okay, that's why always happens. Patience is a virtue and
we need it right now. Now.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I'm not saying that Donald Trump's policies are necessarily going
to work.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
The reason we don't know is we haven't seen anything
like this for hundreds of years, so we don't know.
None of us know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Can't find a professor who can lecture on this because
it's been over one hundred years since any body's tried it,
so we don't have a lot of data.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
And China wasn't a part of the puzzle. So we're
going to have to walk through this and find out.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But people who are panicking, well, you know they're going
to find out what always happens when you panic, you
don't make good decisions.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
So what was the dow at thirteen thousand before the
big crash in two thousand and eight, and then you know,
hit an all time blow somewhere around ten thousand, and
by twenty thirteen it had almost doubled. And then you
had the COVID crash, down to twenty one thousand, since
COVID less than you know, right around five years ago,
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and then it goes up to forty five thousand, literally doubles.
To your point, it's not real losses, but again there's
gone paper.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
These are paper losses.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Right, paper losses, you know, and then they're not permanent,
all right, So, but what is the stomach of the
American people? And then you know, the narrative and those
that control the narrative. Is journalism dead. There's not a
lot of audience, there's not a lot of advertising on
cable news or network news any longer. They certainly didn't
have any influence in the election, but they're going to
be driving that narrative. And if there's still a great
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deal of pain heading into the midterm elections, that wouldn't
be ideal for maintaining control of the House and Senate.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I wouldn't think, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like, oh, you're right, No, there's no first of history
always proves that the resistance to a new administration has
success in the midterms simply because the new administration is visiting,
disy governing, and anticipating in the future the other guys
are coming back for payback.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And payback is you know what, And in politics, that's
the way the American system tends to work.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's going to take a tremendous amount of focus of
people on the ground to secure quality candidates that want
to go forward in this direction and oppose the reaction
in the resistance.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
This is going to be a fight. This is genuinely
going to be a fight.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Now, there's a difference between losing the midterm and then
losing the presidential election, and so it's a two step process.
Right to call the alarm, But we've been calling this
since election day. We've said that this is a very
unusual scenario. A president who can't be reelective, who has
forty eight months and has a tremendous team around, and
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can we create so much progress and so much momentum.
To Donald Trump's credit, he believes there is a more
difficult problem for the future of his children and grandchildren
than the political momentum of the movement. He believes we
need economic restructuring for the strength of the next forty years.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And by the way, the difficult to argue with that.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
No, no, no, Listen, I am one hundred percent behind it,
and I have the stomach for it, and I'm willing
to pay the price in the short term for the
long term victory.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I know you're in the market, so you're paying it.
You're paying it to buy I get it.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
But here's here's what I want to say to make
another point, and that is sometimes people misread the tea
leaves because they make things too complicated. I'm always accurate
because I keep it really simple. And here's what's really simple.
Midterm elections are driven by party unity and energy to vote.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
This.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
What bothers me the most is if Republicans can't keep
their eye on the ball, not Democrats. We expect them
to look for something to create momentum. They have no messenger,
and they have no message. But the fact that Republicans
are divided on this and are on the same page
with the president, that's a concern. That's a concern for unity,
that's a concern for energy. Both are necessary to overcome
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history in a midterm election. So that's the context for
which I am concerned. But I but I don't think
that the President hasn't thought of this. I think the
president that's why they're kind of telling everybody, and we
got seventy nations land up. I think we're going to
wake up in thirty to sixty days with all of
this over for everybody but China. And then I think
China's in a corner because they need to sell their
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goods here. I mean they just do, or a competitor
will suddenly have an advantage. So we'll see how it
plays out. But I don't think there's a lot of time.
I don't think the president should be looking at this
in term of months as much as weeks, if not days.
But that's just my gut, and I could be wrong.
Right quick break, when we come back with David Sonati,
the President got a significant victory from the Supreme Court
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on two cases, but he didn't get one when it
came to the Associated Press. David's got that story. When
Your Morning Show continues.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Next, it's Your Morning Show with Michael del Choano.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
The President's eighty six country reciprocal tariffs have gone into effect.
Markets are reacting one hundred and four percent tariff on China.
China has now put another counter tariff on the US,
and markets in the futures look as though they're going
to react here in the US on that Supreme Court
isn't agreement with the president over the firing of thousands
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of federal workers.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He will not be made to rehire them.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
And then we also had the ruling concerning the president
in his ability to deport gang members. That has caused
lower courts to back off. But not all victories in
the law fair have gone Donald Trump's way. Donald David Zanatti,
our senior contributors joining us, the Associated Press, gets the
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ruling that they have to be allowed. But based on
the precedent of this ruling, you can't have some in
and then not allow others. Well, that would mean you'd
have to allow everyone, wouldn't you. I mean, do we
have a room big enough to hold everybody? I don't
get the grounds of that.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yes, yes. Do we bring the Chinese communists in as well?
Don't they ruined? They have speech?
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I mean, what about national security? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
This is the lower court ruling that ultimately the Supreme
Court is going to have to throw out. Now, the
challenge with all of this is that the Trump administration
probably didn't care about a lawsuit associated press earls. They
would have created a broader construct why they were removing them,
removing them and the President getting caught in one of
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his rhetorical moments, which was that he's thrown them out
because they won't say of America. Okay, that's kind of
fanciful language, and it certainly draws a lot of attention.
But by pinning a legal defense on that, the associated
press one will one a cheap victory in a lower court.
So it's a very tawdry conversation going on. It's not
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the last word at all.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I'm wondering. I'm wondering.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I was just going to say it. I'm wondering if
we're experiencing your last word. Hopefully we'll get can we
go into overtime? I hope the cell shoone holds up
because we haven't done the masters yet, including a listener's
question on the masters, and in terms of that ruling,
it'll go to a higher court and it's not going
to hold up. There's simply not enough room to allow
everyone based on that precedent.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
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Speaker 3 (16:50):
Hey, it's me Michael.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
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enjoyed the podcast.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You might be asking, why is this guy in such
a good mood when we're in the midst of a
TERA for out of reciprocal Wednesday. Well, AI slept, and
that's a change because normally I'm sleepy. That's a code
to somebody that's identified a fake your morning show Facebook page.
What Yeah, I told him it's a fake, you can
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report it. And he goes, well, how do I know
this is the real you? And I said, because I'm sleepy,
So I had to work sleepy into the conversation anyway. Now,
But he knows that that's the real me that he's
talking to online. But the other is that Davidsonati's vehicle
is pointed towards my town, which means my friend is
coming home.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
David, I just got a talk back. We don't necessarily
need to play it.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
But the person was asking, how do you get tickets
to the Masters, Well, you gotta want a lottery right
to be there Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Actually be there Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday for the practice round.
So you have to enter a lottery and receive selection
from the Augusta National Committee, and those tickets are then
yours for a face value, which are very reasonable.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I think there's seventy five dollars a statement. I think
that's what it is. I think that patrons passes are
one hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
To be at Augusta Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you have
to be a patron, which is a long list that
involves lifetimes. Everyone can apply, but your chances is you're
not going to live long enough to ever have your
name come up on the list, which means you have
to find somebody who has patrons passes who's willing to
give them to the equalsy gifts to enableing you to
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go to Augusta, because it is illegal for patrons according
to the law of Augusta, which does control the property.
If a patron's pass, it to illegal for a patron
to sell their tickets to anyone.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
And so that's where things gets very very difficult. Bottom
line is if.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Bottom line is enjoyed the telecast on ESPN and CBS.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, it's the toughest ticket in the.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
World because for this week, the e golfed universe is
fetter than Augusta.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And the challenge, of course is yes, is something it
pretty in opposite worth it?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The property alone is so beautiful that if you've ever
given the opportunity to be on with it, I would
recommend it because it's one of the most beautiful places
in North America.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
So I'll never forget the first time I walked up
the ramp at Wrigley Field, and it was of course
in a black and white era. I was seeing it
in color, and it was so much more beautiful and
so much more green and perfect in person. That's a
weak analogy compared to what Augusta looks like in real life.
That and how hilly it is right.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, boy, it is hilly.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The folks who were with yesterday walked thirty two thousand
steps and most of them were uphill.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
They were exhauce. It's amazing, but it see.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Michaels, as we went in yesterday and looking through the woods,
we saw the sixteen home, number sixteen and the green
through the woods for the first time. It is literally
as if it's the first time you've seen anything in color,
because as beautiful as the photographs.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Are, I'm telling you, the actual grounds per anything. That's
sort of the artistics floor. All right.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Well, one of the greatest endings to a movie was
the Bobby Jones movie, and it ends with after you
hear Bobby Jones's life story, he did everything for everyone else,
became a lawyer for his grandfather, became a golfer for
his father, did all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And so the movie ends.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
They pull off to the side of the road and
the guy asks him, well, what are you going to
do for yourself now? And he drops a ball on
the ground, grabs a club out of the trunk, and
he just hits an iron and it leaves the side
of the road which is just kind of overgrown brush
and trees and lands in the pristine fairways of Augusta
as it looks today. Bobby Jones had a vision for
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this golf course. Do you think he ever had a
vision for the Masters becoming bigger than any other major
and bigger than in some ways, the game of golf itself.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's interesting, Michael, thank you for bringing because that's a
piece of American history that is attribute to our system,
way of life, to our principles. Bobby Jones. People were
surprised by this. He won a whole lot of tournaments
and never got paid for one of them because he
remained an amateur his entire life.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Bobby Jones was never a professional golfer. He just beat
all of them. That was his vision of playing golf
for the love of the game.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
That's why you got a master's degree literature, became a realator,
got a law degree, became a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And a family man. But his vision was the love
of the game, and that love of the game.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Has been the national and they do have a different
standard and can't respond that way. So it's a very
worthwhile experience in regards to the fact that this is
a man whose vision was anchored in principle, and that
principle was.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Love, love of the game, because the game was worth loving.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Loving, hating, loving again, hating, loving more, hating more. All right,
what's the buzz around Augusta this week? Who does everybody like? Mad?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Confusion?
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Man?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
And you look at the range, and I'll tell you
one thing about Augusta.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You recognize the thing about golf as a game has
played in many, many different ways. The idea of hitting
it a long way and then having a good short
game is all critical, important and putting, but everybody does
it different.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
We watched swings yesterday that it was different this night
to day.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You wouldn't find a single swing on the internet that
looks like Tony p No now swing, and yet he's
a champions.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
It's quite remarkable.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
One other thing about Augusta that's interesting, Michael, is that
this particular tournament is a life changer. I think that's
the epic drama that draws people too, can be the
golf because they know, if this person wins this tournament
for the first time, their life in their career will
be forever changed. Very few moments like that ever happen
in life. They happen to storyagins, but they happen every
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year in.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Gustine because you're forever known as a Master's champion. I
will say this about in tribute to Bobby Jones. Of
all of the courses, and it can happen from time
to time in US Opens, but this course in particular.
There are great drivers, there are great putters. There are
a lot of people that have, you know, great shot
making ability, but this course forces you to use course generalship.
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I think Tiger would describe it best. It's about who
can know where to miss, the best that stays in
it and avoids that really bad moment, and the person
you know, you can talk about who's the hottest right now,
who of the older players could give us a thrill,
the one that tends to do course management and generalship
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the best and keep a cool head and has the
shots and the putts. Scotti, Scheffler, I like them.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, fantastic guys. His caddy is is just an absolutely
amazing guy. They're a great team together. There's a handful
of people of perennial favorites. Is Roy Macklroy of course,
because everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
He's playing so well right now, Yeah, yeah, And he's
never saw.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I think that's probably where everyone's looking in that regard.
But talking about female swinger, all these different unique swings,
what it comes down to is the back nine and
Augusta on Sunday, it doesn't matter how good the swing, perfect,
it is unusual, it is powerful, it isn't worth the chorus.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Every person on that leaderboard on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Becomes a junior high school kid again, and his heart
is in his throat because they know the consequences.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And that's also so.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Much of the dramas where Jim nantays every backstory memorized.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
So I'll expect to hear a lot more Jim Man's
from DO this week. He may he may actually surface.
There you have it, ladies and.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Gentlemen, the Augusta review from David Tonati, who has spent
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If you're just waking up. These are your top five
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In a ceremony at the White House Tuesday, Trump said
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The coal is the single most reliable, durable, secure, and
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Biden put thousands of coal miners out of work during
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Trump noted that European countries are moving back to coal
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President Trump is inviting the President of Al Salvador to
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the administration.
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There's no scientific evidence unicorns actually exist, and only six
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But it could happen.
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Everybody's worried about a tariff four on a reciprocal Wednesday.
What's pre tennis talking about unicorns? Of course?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
This is your Morning Show with Michael del Trono.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Eighty six countries have their tariffs going to effect, and
China's already responded to one hundred and four percent tariff
that is imposed on them today with a reciprocal tariff
back on the US. That's scott marketson Asia of course,
tumbling over our tariffs on them, and the futures in
the US looking a little unsettled because of their retaliatory
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tariffs on US, and somewhere in between, everybody's freaking out. Meanwhile,
President Trump's Special envoy to the Middle East is set
to lead the nuclear talks with Iran coming up this weekend.
And the death toll has risen to ninety eight after
a roof collapse at a nightclub, and the Dominican Republic
took out two former Meet leaguers to Tell and Blanco
(29:03):
both tragic collapse of a nightclub in the Dominican Republic.
That death still now at ninety eight, And Americans are
swimming in credit card debt. All that old jest nut
roy O'Neil our national correspondents here to explain how that's
keeping millions of them from making smart financial decisions. While
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they didn't get in credit card debt, thinking smart financial decisions,
some do.
Speaker 11 (29:29):
That's well yeah, some do, sure, but others have been
forced to put more charges on the credit cards because
the monthly income just doesn't match the bills. But this
bank Great survey finds about two thirds of credit card
debtors have delayed or avoided other financial decisions because of
their credit card. So they're not putting away money in
a rainy day fund, they're not funding their retirement, they're
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not saving for a house or a car, and in fact,
about a quarter of them say they've delayed spending on
healthcare in order to try to tackle the credit card debt.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Well, what we can't see obviously, inflation was costing people
more money than their wage was providing, and a lot
of people were using, as you mentioned, credit card debt,
a lot of people were taking advantage of the home
values that were up and he locks. What we really
need to track is how many now have credit card
debts rising and they've already done their he lock. In
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other words, the next thing to kind of keep your
eye on is defaults.
Speaker 11 (30:32):
Right right, we're seeing that already in the automotive sector,
especially those subpar or sub premium loans are the ones
that we're already seeing defaults.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Not that we're too surprised that's where it's happening.
Speaker 11 (30:46):
But it's yeah, we are seeing sort of nibbles around
the edges, but for the most part, it's this overwhelming
debt of one point two trillion dollars in credit card
debt that is bogging down a lot of spending. Essentially,
what's happening in the household is what we fear is
happening with the federal government, is that we're just maxed
out and we have to cut spending. It's interesting, you know,
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I learned this with Katrina. People always want to talk
about Katrina being the most strong, devastating hurricane ever, and
I'm like, say hello to Betsy and say aloa, Camille.
The problem was decades of ignoring of the pumps in
the levee system and deterioration of the coastline. You know,
I look at this generation and they probably took a
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big hit. Well, the older generation took a big hit
in the crash in the eighties, but that tough economic
time of two thousand and eight, and then the COVID
time and then now this it's kind of one plus
one plus one doesn't quite equal three, and so you know,
the long term effects of this. If you had to
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use your home value once or twice before, this is
all building into a much greater storm that if this
many Americans are up to their neck and he lock
up to their neck and credit card and then something
happens to their job. It's not just their immediate issues,
it's how much it has eroded their savings. And I
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don't have to tell you I've got two elderly parents
and nursing homes. The future isn't bright for retirement either,
and it's been weakened by these Even if you survived them,
your retirement probably hasn't. This is done, it is, and
it can limit your options moving forward. I think that's
the message here, is that if you get saddled with
this unnecessary credit card debt, you know, that's when suddenly
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you find it hard to try to get that money
for a house or a car, or to make that
move that may be with a new job. Now, if
you need the credit card debt, that's a different situation,
of course, if you're just are stuck, but you know,
try to do what you can to avoid getting in
that trouble in the first place.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, Otherwise it's just a it's a reset and getting
deeper and deeper because you're just going to end up
now having a heel and high interest credit card debt
as well. Roy And yeah, until you sell it or
default on it, Rory, great reporting, Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Two three, starting your morning off right. A new way
of talk, a new way of understanding different because we're.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
In this together. This is your morning show with Michael
O'Dell Jordan.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Welcome to Reciprocal Wednesday. Hey, brother ninth here of our Lord.
Twenty twenty five, somebody asked me, well, you just sound
different than you did, and I you know, I recognize.
I was on the air in Nashville for sixteen years
for a company I made pretty clear when I was
on the air working for them I didn't like. But
(00:55):
I don't want to be negative like that. And they say,
we just hear a difference. Well, you know, the the
practical answer is I love who I work for now
and they love me, and I love who I work with.
I surrounded myself with exactly who God wanted me to
surround myself with. So I think Red would say this,
Jeffrey would say this, to Bill May, to Chris, to Julie,
(01:19):
to everybody. I mean, we're all doing what we love
to do with people we love doing it with, for
people we love doing it for. Right, that's the practical answer.
But what really wants to come out of my mouth
is it's no longer a radio show. This is not
a morning talk show. This is a family, a family
going through the process of life together. And whether it's
(01:41):
understanding or worrying or staying focused and triumphing together, it's
a family more than a radio show. And that's why
I can't have it without your voice. And we never
do it without your voice. So the talk back line
we go. Let's start in one of my favorite cities,
Saint Louis.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Hey, Michael, love your show. Regarding China's Paris, I've got
plenty of patients.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I have no problem. Yeah, we're good to go.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I have no business interests over in China, so yeah,
I'm patients, no problem whatsoever. And I think I speak
for the vast majority of the working class Americans.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Well, I think everybody would want me to also say
to you, you do business with China products, and you
do business with our economy, and you do business with
our market, and it's going to suffer as this work
goes on. Now, it's not going to stay that way
that if this is not a if the President doesn't
have a plan to address this within a month or so,
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I'd be surprised. And I think he's right. Even China
is going to have to come to the table. We
buy way more from them and they buy. You know,
they have a lot more goods here being sold. But
he's got to get the he's got to get those
that are friends on board. So if he's going to
negotiate with Europe, if he's going to negotiate with Canada,
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he's going to negotiate with Mexico and South Korea. He
easy to get that done lickety split. As we saw
in the research. America and principles behind the president, but
they don't have a lot of stomach for pain. So
whatever he's doing, it better be a strategy to get
done pretty quickly, otherwise it could affect the midterms and
then you do do business with America and political influence
all right, always my favorite. We'll skip the something about
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Mary theme song to Idaho and Mary we go, Hey, Michael,
it's Mary.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I'm not saying I've ever kicked out a dope husband
who ended up drunk in a hotel room binge watching
a History channel, but.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Boy, James Carville sounds a little familiar. Have a great day.
James Carver was in our Sounds of the Day.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
He wasn't calling anybody to shave any heads or spin
on or assassinate, but he was just saying it happened
in history as he was calling Donald Trump hitler in
this administration a regime, and any attorneys that were pro
bowl for him, aiding and sympathizing Roger will get the
final state.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Good morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Just an observation I kind of had in the first hour,
and I think it's even more applicable now, and that
is our economy is like, we have cancer. Poor policies
has caused his cancer over probably five decades. So it's
a matter now of surgery, chemo or radiation or all
of the above. We got to do something. It's gonna
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hurt a little, but if we don't, we die, all right.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
It's reciprocal Wednesday. The President's reciprocal tariffs are going into
effect today. Markets are reacting, tumbling in Asia and China.
There are eighty six countries that the President put a
reciprocal tax on and one hundred and four percent on China.
China just retaliated with another eighty four percent on us.
So enter our senior contributor David Sanati, who's on the
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road again. Because there's two kinds of people that go
to the Masters, those that spend week there and then
leave right before the opening round, and those who arrive
at the opening round. David is the former, not the latter.
We'll talk more about the Masters in a minute, David.
We went through a piece of research earlier where the
American people, in principle are three quarters are completely behind
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the president.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
In principle.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They want to see him stick up and restore manufacturing
and creating things and stick up for American workers. So
they're behind him in principle with the tariffs, but they
don't have much stomach for paint that would suggest the
President if this is a process, it better be a
short process, not a long process.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Good morning, Michael, Yeah, I've been listening. I think your
three themes for today are profound and insightful and very
very helpful. I add that if we can get to
the truth behind the polls, and I think the polls
are significant, don't get me wrong, but I mean, over
forty five years you've been doing public policy has hurt
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a lot of poles.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So most of them are pulling what we don't know,
not what we know, right. I mean, for example, let's
go back and reflect on this entire question of China.
Where did it begin.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Let's go back to the Nixon administration when Nixon believed
and Kissinger believed that we could overcome the Chinese Communist
Party by opening trade between our two countries and turning
the communists in the capitalists.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Now they dress.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Differently than they did in the Nixon administration, but they're
still communists to enslave their people and steal everything that
America brings to their shores.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Right, Am I missing something?
Speaker 6 (06:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No? And by the way, yeah, actually actually you are.
And in that wealth.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Not only have they not changed their communist DNA, they
have been building their military in weaponry and boots on
the ground tenfold to its enemy nations.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
With our money, with our money, all this time.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So yeah, and so if you've talked to people who
been business people over there and aren't anymore, they said,
we tried, it doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Okay, Now we've got a problem.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
A lot of things that we need for our health
and welfare are being produced in China, and we're buying
them from China, and we have to change.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Donald Trump went through COVID.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm not necessarily sure he's interested in America being subject
to China when the superbug appears.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And you know, we are just as or as prescription drugs.
I mean, here's the nation that created COVID. It looked
more like a biological weapon to me than anything else.
I mean, just in the actions. And I'm not being
you know, using hyperbole here or trying to be provocative.
Whether it leaked out on accident or on purpose, the
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actions China took to prevent it spread within their country
versus the recklessness to spread it in other countries is unconscionable.
So the very nation that subjected the world to COVID
by accident or on purpose is that we're depending on
for our health.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
How wise is that in the long run? But how
much of this can you do quickly? Okay, go ahead,
go ahead.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
No, I was just gonna say no, I was just
gonna say but at some point, in principle in rightness,
you don't have a lot of time before this could
dramatically open the door impact the midterms. So my take
is the president has got to negotiate with our friends,
and not over the course of two to three months.
I'm talking about in the course of two three weeks tops,
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and get things squared away with Mexico, Canada, South Korea,
the European Union, Germany and countries that are more of
a friend, and then deal with China last.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, you're better at timing than me.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
We talk about this all the time, and I recognize
that I don't know how long we've got it, and
how much tolerance we have and how much of this
isn't the hype from not what you're saying, but what
we're hearing from the people who are walsh to analysts,
because let's face it, they make their living on America's
biggest casino, which is the belief that the stock market
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is magic and it can make you rich if you're
just patient enough with them. So they alleged nine trillion
dollars in wealth that's disappeared. Really, I mean, we saw
this in the Obama administration, the great sell off and
the great Panics and the auto issues and all the
sub blah blah blah blah. You know, the people who
held through came back to a good order. There's a
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difference between money on paper and real money. So people
are protecting their real money because they're skitzy about then
scared about change.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Okay, that's why always happens. Patience is a virtue and
we need it right now. Now.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I'm not saying that Donald Trump's policies are necessarily going
to work.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
The reason we don't know is we haven't seen anything
like this for hundreds of years, so we don't know.
None of us know.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Can't find a professor who can lecture on this because
it's been over one hundred years since any body's tried it,
so we don't have a lot of data.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
And China wasn't a part of the puzzle. So we're
going to have to walk through this and find out.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But people who are panicking, well, you know they're going
to find out what always happens when you panic, you
don't make good decisions.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
So what was the dow at thirteen thousand before the
big crash in two thousand and eight, and then you know,
hit an all time blow somewhere around ten thousand, and
by twenty thirteen it had almost doubled. And then you
had the COVID crash, down to twenty one thousand, since
COVID less than you know, right around five years ago,
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and then it goes up to forty five thousand, literally doubles.
To your point, it's not real losses, but again there's
gone paper.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
These are paper losses.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Right, paper losses, you know, and then they're not permanent,
all right, So, but what is the stomach of the
American people? And then you know, the narrative and those
that control the narrative. Is journalism dead. There's not a
lot of audience, there's not a lot of advertising on
cable news or network news any longer. They certainly didn't
have any influence in the election, but they're going to
be driving that narrative. And if there's still a great
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deal of pain heading into the midterm elections, that wouldn't
be ideal for maintaining control of the House and Senate.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I wouldn't think, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Like, oh, you're right, No, there's no first of history
always proves that the resistance to a new administration has
success in the midterms simply because the new administration is visiting,
disy governing, and anticipating in the future the other guys
are coming back for payback.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And payback is you know what, And in politics, that's
the way the American system tends to work.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's going to take a tremendous amount of focus of
people on the ground to secure quality candidates that want
to go forward in this direction and oppose the reaction
in the resistance.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
This is going to be a fight. This is genuinely
going to be a fight.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Now, there's a difference between losing the midterm and then
losing the presidential election, and so it's a two step process.
Right to call the alarm, But we've been calling this
since election day. We've said that this is a very
unusual scenario. A president who can't be reelective, who has
forty eight months and has a tremendous team around, and
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can we create so much progress and so much momentum.
To Donald Trump's credit, he believes there is a more
difficult problem for the future of his children and grandchildren
than the political momentum of the movement. He believes we
need economic restructuring for the strength of the next forty years.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And by the way, the difficult to argue with that.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
No, no, no, Listen, I am one hundred percent behind it,
and I have the stomach for it, and I'm willing
to pay the price in the short term for the
long term victory.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I know you're in the market, so you're paying it.
You're paying it to buy I get it.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
But here's here's what I want to say to make
another point, and that is sometimes people misread the tea
leaves because they make things too complicated. I'm always accurate
because I keep it really simple. And here's what's really simple.
Midterm elections are driven by party unity and energy to vote.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
This.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
What bothers me the most is if Republicans can't keep
their eye on the ball, not Democrats. We expect them
to look for something to create momentum. They have no messenger,
and they have no message. But the fact that Republicans
are divided on this and are on the same page
with the president, that's a concern. That's a concern for unity,
that's a concern for energy. Both are necessary to overcome
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history in a midterm election. So that's the context for
which I am concerned. But I but I don't think
that the President hasn't thought of this. I think the
president that's why they're kind of telling everybody, and we
got seventy nations land up. I think we're going to
wake up in thirty to sixty days with all of
this over for everybody but China. And then I think
China's in a corner because they need to sell their
(13:48):
goods here. I mean they just do, or a competitor
will suddenly have an advantage. So we'll see how it
plays out. But I don't think there's a lot of time.
I don't think the president should be looking at this
in term of months as much as weeks, if not days.
But that's just my gut, and I could be wrong.
Right quick break, when we come back with David Sonati,
the President got a significant victory from the Supreme Court
(14:10):
on two cases, but he didn't get one when it
came to the Associated Press. David's got that story. When
Your Morning Show continues.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Next, it's Your Morning Show with Michael del Choano.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
The President's eighty six country reciprocal tariffs have gone into effect.
Markets are reacting one hundred and four percent tariff on China.
China has now put another counter tariff on the US,
and markets in the futures look as though they're going
to react here in the US on that Supreme Court
isn't agreement with the president over the firing of thousands
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of federal workers.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He will not be made to rehire them.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
And then we also had the ruling concerning the president
in his ability to deport gang members. That has caused
lower courts to back off. But not all victories in
the law fair have gone Donald Trump's way. Donald David Zanatti,
our senior contributors joining us, the Associated Press, gets the
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ruling that they have to be allowed. But based on
the precedent of this ruling, you can't have some in
and then not allow others. Well, that would mean you'd
have to allow everyone, wouldn't you. I mean, do we
have a room big enough to hold everybody? I don't
get the grounds of that.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yes, yes. Do we bring the Chinese communists in as well?
Don't they ruined? They have speech?
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I mean, what about national security? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
This is the lower court ruling that ultimately the Supreme
Court is going to have to throw out. Now, the
challenge with all of this is that the Trump administration
probably didn't care about a lawsuit associated press earls. They
would have created a broader construct why they were removing them,
removing them and the President getting caught in one of
(15:55):
his rhetorical moments, which was that he's thrown them out
because they won't say of America. Okay, that's kind of
fanciful language, and it certainly draws a lot of attention.
But by pinning a legal defense on that, the associated
press one will one a cheap victory in a lower court.
So it's a very tawdry conversation going on. It's not
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the last word at all.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I'm wondering. I'm wondering.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I was just going to say it. I'm wondering if
we're experiencing your last word. Hopefully we'll get can we
go into overtime? I hope the cell shoone holds up
because we haven't done the masters yet, including a listener's
question on the masters, and in terms of that ruling,
it'll go to a higher court and it's not going
to hold up. There's simply not enough room to allow
everyone based on that precedent.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
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Speaker 3 (16:50):
Hey, it's me Michael.
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enjoyed the podcast.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You might be asking, why is this guy in such
a good mood when we're in the midst of a
TERA for out of reciprocal Wednesday. Well, AI slept, and
that's a change because normally I'm sleepy. That's a code
to somebody that's identified a fake your morning show Facebook page.
What Yeah, I told him it's a fake, you can
(17:36):
report it. And he goes, well, how do I know
this is the real you? And I said, because I'm sleepy,
So I had to work sleepy into the conversation anyway. Now,
But he knows that that's the real me that he's
talking to online. But the other is that Davidsonati's vehicle
is pointed towards my town, which means my friend is
coming home.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
David, I just got a talk back. We don't necessarily
need to play it.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
But the person was asking, how do you get tickets
to the Masters, Well, you gotta want a lottery right
to be there Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Actually be there Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday for the practice round.
So you have to enter a lottery and receive selection
from the Augusta National Committee, and those tickets are then
yours for a face value, which are very reasonable.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I think there's seventy five dollars a statement. I think
that's what it is. I think that patrons passes are
one hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
To be at Augusta Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you have
to be a patron, which is a long list that
involves lifetimes. Everyone can apply, but your chances is you're
not going to live long enough to ever have your
name come up on the list, which means you have
to find somebody who has patrons passes who's willing to
give them to the equalsy gifts to enableing you to
(18:41):
go to Augusta, because it is illegal for patrons according
to the law of Augusta, which does control the property.
If a patron's pass, it to illegal for a patron
to sell their tickets to anyone.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
And so that's where things gets very very difficult. Bottom
line is if.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Bottom line is enjoyed the telecast on ESPN and CBS.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, it's the toughest ticket in the.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
World because for this week, the e golfed universe is
fetter than Augusta.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And the challenge, of course is yes, is something it
pretty in opposite worth it?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
The property alone is so beautiful that if you've ever
given the opportunity to be on with it, I would
recommend it because it's one of the most beautiful places
in North America.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
So I'll never forget the first time I walked up
the ramp at Wrigley Field, and it was of course
in a black and white era. I was seeing it
in color, and it was so much more beautiful and
so much more green and perfect in person. That's a
weak analogy compared to what Augusta looks like in real life.
That and how hilly it is right.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, boy, it is hilly.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The folks who were with yesterday walked thirty two thousand
steps and most of them were uphill.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
They were exhauce. It's amazing, but it see.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Michaels, as we went in yesterday and looking through the woods,
we saw the sixteen home, number sixteen and the green
through the woods for the first time. It is literally
as if it's the first time you've seen anything in color,
because as beautiful as the photographs.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Are, I'm telling you, the actual grounds per anything. That's
sort of the artistics floor. All right.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Well, one of the greatest endings to a movie was
the Bobby Jones movie, and it ends with after you
hear Bobby Jones's life story, he did everything for everyone else,
became a lawyer for his grandfather, became a golfer for
his father, did all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And so the movie ends.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
They pull off to the side of the road and
the guy asks him, well, what are you going to
do for yourself now? And he drops a ball on
the ground, grabs a club out of the trunk, and
he just hits an iron and it leaves the side
of the road which is just kind of overgrown brush
and trees and lands in the pristine fairways of Augusta
as it looks today. Bobby Jones had a vision for
(21:00):
this golf course. Do you think he ever had a
vision for the Masters becoming bigger than any other major
and bigger than in some ways, the game of golf itself.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's interesting, Michael, thank you for bringing because that's a
piece of American history that is attribute to our system,
way of life, to our principles. Bobby Jones. People were
surprised by this. He won a whole lot of tournaments
and never got paid for one of them because he
remained an amateur his entire life.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Bobby Jones was never a professional golfer. He just beat
all of them. That was his vision of playing golf
for the love of the game.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
That's why you got a master's degree literature, became a realator,
got a law degree, became a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And a family man. But his vision was the love
of the game, and that love of the game.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Has been the national and they do have a different
standard and can't respond that way. So it's a very
worthwhile experience in regards to the fact that this is
a man whose vision was anchored in principle, and that
principle was.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Love, love of the game, because the game was worth loving.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Loving, hating, loving again, hating, loving more, hating more. All right,
what's the buzz around Augusta this week? Who does everybody like? Mad?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Confusion?
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Man?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
And you look at the range, and I'll tell you
one thing about Augusta.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You recognize the thing about golf as a game has
played in many, many different ways. The idea of hitting
it a long way and then having a good short
game is all critical, important and putting, but everybody does
it different.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
We watched swings yesterday that it was different this night
to day.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You wouldn't find a single swing on the internet that
looks like Tony p No now swing, and yet he's
a champions.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
It's quite remarkable.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
One other thing about Augusta that's interesting, Michael, is that
this particular tournament is a life changer. I think that's
the epic drama that draws people too, can be the
golf because they know, if this person wins this tournament
for the first time, their life in their career will
be forever changed. Very few moments like that ever happen
in life. They happen to storyagins, but they happen every
(23:05):
year in.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Gustine because you're forever known as a Master's champion. I
will say this about in tribute to Bobby Jones. Of
all of the courses, and it can happen from time
to time in US Opens, but this course in particular.
There are great drivers, there are great putters. There are
a lot of people that have, you know, great shot
making ability, but this course forces you to use course generalship.
(23:29):
I think Tiger would describe it best. It's about who
can know where to miss, the best that stays in
it and avoids that really bad moment, and the person
you know, you can talk about who's the hottest right now,
who of the older players could give us a thrill,
the one that tends to do course management and generalship
(23:51):
the best and keep a cool head and has the
shots and the putts. Scotti, Scheffler, I like them.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, fantastic guys. His caddy is is just an absolutely
amazing guy. They're a great team together. There's a handful
of people of perennial favorites. Is Roy Macklroy of course,
because everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
He's playing so well right now, Yeah, yeah, And he's
never saw.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I think that's probably where everyone's looking in that regard.
But talking about female swinger, all these different unique swings,
what it comes down to is the back nine and
Augusta on Sunday, it doesn't matter how good the swing, perfect,
it is unusual, it is powerful, it isn't worth the chorus.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Every person on that leaderboard on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Becomes a junior high school kid again, and his heart
is in his throat because they know the consequences.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And that's also so.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Much of the dramas where Jim nantays every backstory memorized.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
So I'll expect to hear a lot more Jim Man's
from DO this week. He may he may actually surface.
There you have it, ladies and.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Gentlemen, the Augusta review from David Tonati, who has spent
the week in Augusta. Thanks so much, David, and drive
quickly home to be forty two minutes after the hour.
If you're just waking up. These are your top five
stories of the day. The President assigned an executive order
in the aim revitalized the coal industry in the US.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
In a ceremony at the White House Tuesday, Trump said
he is ending what he called former President Biden's war
on clean coal.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
The coal is the single most reliable, durable, secure, and
powerful form of energy there is on earth today, he said.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Biden put thousands of coal miners out of work during
his time in office. The White House said the order
will reverse policies that slowed coal production in the country.
Trump noted that European countries are moving back to coal
energy after switching to green energy like wind.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
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Speaker 4 (25:36):
President Trump is inviting the President of Al Salvador to
the White House.
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That's according to Press Secretary Caroline Levitch, who says President
Nae Buchle will visit DC next week. The two parties
will talk cooperation between their countries as the US deport's
alleged gang member migrants to an El Salvador in prison.
Levitt says the Supermax prison is on the table for
the deported migrants and added El Salvador's cooperation with the
US has become a model for others to work with
(26:00):
the administration.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
ALESA Taylor Tiger Woods may not be playing in the
twenty twenty five Masters, but he's still leading Augusta national
announcements of partnership with Tiger Woods.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
The collaboration between the Pristine Golf Club and five time
Masters Champion will be a project focused on enhancing education
and golf accessibility in Augusta. It will do so through
the tgr Learning Lab at the former Lamar Elementary School,
providing Steam education for Richmond County students. The lab, scheduled
to open in April twenty twenty eight, aims to support
(26:32):
under resource communities through career readiness and hands on learning.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Part of the project will also.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
Include renovating the city's municipal golf course, the Patch.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I'm Liz Kennedy trying to think. You know, Star Wars, Jaws.
I grew up in an era where movies were bigger
than life, great stories being told. Well that's gone downhill,
but what's gone uphill is documentaries. Documentaries are some of
the best. I probably watched two to one documentaries over movies.
So I love a good documentary and I love me
some Billy Joel. The two come together with an HBO
(27:03):
original two part documentary called Billy Joel and So it Goes.
It will open up the Tribeca Film Festival in New
York this summer.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Singsong You Have a piano man sing Us saissole tonight
well on in the mode.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
The announcement was made by the festivals CEO and co
founder Jane Rosenthal. This year's festival lineup hasn't been announced yet,
but organizers say it will be soon. The festival runs
from June fourth through the fifteenth. Festival goers can buy
passes and tickets at Tribecafilm dot com.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
A Markmeatfield, Well, what's today? Today is National Unicorn Day?
And that's a real thing.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
We're celebrating a mythical creature with fabulous hair and a
magical spiraling horn and a rainbow.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
There's always a rainbow.
Speaker 10 (27:51):
There's no scientific evidence unicorns actually exist, and only six
percent of Americans believe. But citing state back two thousand years,
maybe they narwals or rhinos. But believing in a magical
creature only a virgin can catch is kind of like
winning the lottery.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
But it could happen.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
I'm pre tennis.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Everybody's worried about a tariff four on a reciprocal Wednesday.
What's pre tennis talking about unicorns? Of course?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
This is your Morning Show with Michael del Trono.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Eighty six countries have their tariffs going to effect, and
China's already responded to one hundred and four percent tariff
that is imposed on them today with a reciprocal tariff
back on the US. That's scott marketson Asia of course,
tumbling over our tariffs on them, and the futures in
the US looking a little unsettled because of their retaliatory
(28:42):
tariffs on US, and somewhere in between, everybody's freaking out. Meanwhile,
President Trump's Special envoy to the Middle East is set
to lead the nuclear talks with Iran coming up this weekend.
And the death toll has risen to ninety eight after
a roof collapse at a nightclub, and the Dominican Republic
took out two former Meet leaguers to Tell and Blanco
(29:03):
both tragic collapse of a nightclub in the Dominican Republic.
That death still now at ninety eight, And Americans are
swimming in credit card debt. All that old jest nut
roy O'Neil our national correspondents here to explain how that's
keeping millions of them from making smart financial decisions. While
(29:24):
they didn't get in credit card debt, thinking smart financial decisions,
some do.
Speaker 11 (29:29):
That's well yeah, some do, sure, but others have been
forced to put more charges on the credit cards because
the monthly income just doesn't match the bills. But this
bank Great survey finds about two thirds of credit card
debtors have delayed or avoided other financial decisions because of
their credit card. So they're not putting away money in
a rainy day fund, they're not funding their retirement, they're
(29:53):
not saving for a house or a car, and in fact,
about a quarter of them say they've delayed spending on
healthcare in order to try to tackle the credit card debt.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Well, what we can't see obviously, inflation was costing people
more money than their wage was providing, and a lot
of people were using, as you mentioned, credit card debt,
a lot of people were taking advantage of the home
values that were up and he locks. What we really
need to track is how many now have credit card
debts rising and they've already done their he lock. In
(30:27):
other words, the next thing to kind of keep your
eye on is defaults.
Speaker 11 (30:32):
Right right, we're seeing that already in the automotive sector,
especially those subpar or sub premium loans are the ones
that we're already seeing defaults.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Not that we're too surprised that's where it's happening.
Speaker 11 (30:46):
But it's yeah, we are seeing sort of nibbles around
the edges, but for the most part, it's this overwhelming
debt of one point two trillion dollars in credit card
debt that is bogging down a lot of spending. Essentially,
what's happening in the household is what we fear is
happening with the federal government, is that we're just maxed
out and we have to cut spending. It's interesting, you know,
(31:10):
I learned this with Katrina. People always want to talk
about Katrina being the most strong, devastating hurricane ever, and
I'm like, say hello to Betsy and say aloa, Camille.
The problem was decades of ignoring of the pumps in
the levee system and deterioration of the coastline. You know,
I look at this generation and they probably took a
(31:33):
big hit. Well, the older generation took a big hit
in the crash in the eighties, but that tough economic
time of two thousand and eight, and then the COVID
time and then now this it's kind of one plus
one plus one doesn't quite equal three, and so you know,
the long term effects of this. If you had to
(31:53):
use your home value once or twice before, this is
all building into a much greater storm that if this
many Americans are up to their neck and he lock
up to their neck and credit card and then something
happens to their job. It's not just their immediate issues,
it's how much it has eroded their savings. And I
(32:14):
don't have to tell you I've got two elderly parents
and nursing homes. The future isn't bright for retirement either,
and it's been weakened by these Even if you survived them,
your retirement probably hasn't. This is done, it is, and
it can limit your options moving forward. I think that's
the message here, is that if you get saddled with
this unnecessary credit card debt, you know, that's when suddenly
(32:38):
you find it hard to try to get that money
for a house or a car, or to make that
move that may be with a new job. Now, if
you need the credit card debt, that's a different situation,
of course, if you're just are stuck, but you know,
try to do what you can to avoid getting in
that trouble in the first place.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, Otherwise it's just a it's a reset and getting
deeper and deeper because you're just going to end up
now having a heel and high interest credit card debt
as well. Roy And yeah, until you sell it or
default on it, Rory, great reporting, Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
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