April 14, 2025 • 34 mins
Is Trump playing the trade game super smart or caving as he goes with exemptions?? We asked GOP contributor Chris Walker if this is chess or mess??!!
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if you will. Now we're joined by Chris Walker, who
is a GOP contributor to your morning show, All Things Republican.
We've been following Donald Trump in this whole trade, tariff process, negotiation,
whatever it is. Now we have the exemptions for certain
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things that keep coming out smartphones, computer chips. Is this
still a game of super smart chess? Or is this
caving as you go? I guess the first question is
is this chess or mess or both?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I mean, you know my feelings on this. This is mess.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I just can't. I can't see another. If it were
forty chess, we would be there would be some consistency.
And that's what what bothers me about it. You know,
one day it's a revenue generator, another day it's reshowing jobs,
another day it's you know, a negotiating tactic. All three
of those are are worthy in different ways, but none
of that they're.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
All mutually exclusive.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
So you know, I think it is generally it's an
idea that you know, it's lawable in the sense of
rethinking how to fund the government to the tune of
you know, trillions of dollars of unaccountable dollars profit the
stock market is an unsustainable situation. You know, losing jobs
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in the middle of the country and hollowing it out
to China is an unsustainable situation.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You know what I thought about this.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Weekend that I keep kind of coming back to, you know,
incentives work. You know, states spend lots of money to
try to bring jobs to their states, and there's a
lot of ways that we can do it. We're still
the most prosperous nation on earth for a reason, and
I think a lot of that is based on, you know,
the trade that we've had over the long rule. Are
there are there trade and balances, yes, but that also
means that we also can buy a lot more and
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I think all of that has been a negative net positive.
And so you know, President Trump wanting to kind of
solve some of these problems and fix them is laudable.
But like I say with anybody, you know, intentions are good,
but the outcomes are what you really need to look at.
And if we're adopting protectionist policies the Democrats have done
for forever, what are we really talking about here? So
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in my view, I think pre trade is the best
way for prosperity, the best way for job creation, and
the best way to keep our country on the process
path that it's been on.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Peter Navarrow is going to be in our Sounds of
the Day, and he was on meet the press. He
kind of lays out the chess portion of this, and
the thesis of what he's saying is is it's you
can't isolate any one of these things. You have to
look at all of them and how they interact one
with another. And that final missing piece, which is the
tax cuts that are coming. I guess it's just different
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than what you know. I'm not necessarily siding with you.
I think tariffs are a dangerous game to play, and
I think some of it is necessary to even the
playing field, especially with our friends. Some of it is
necessary in terms of isolating China because they are different,
what they do with currency, what they do with stealing
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of our intelligence, and unfair trade practices and barriers. I
think that does need to be addressed. But I would
have fought first you'd secure the border, and he did,
then you would address the economy, and you would start
with this tax cut. It looks like that's going to
be the final piece. And I don't know if there's
some chess or mess in that in choosing the order.
(06:44):
I guess I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You, well, I mean, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I mean, part of.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It is what can Congress accomplish.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Part of it was can do. And I think that's
another piece of this. It needs to be talked about.
Congress needs to step up. The president is not unilateral
terif authority. You know, trust President Trump. I think he's
I think he's a great man. I think he's got
well intentioned, but he does not have the power he's
wielding in terms of it. As with tariffs, you have
to have Congress involvedm with it because unilateral trade deals
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are not you know, you can't unilaterally raise taxes on people,
and yet that's kind of what's happening.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Here with certain degree. So I mean, there's a lot
of things that when you.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Think about from a constitutional perspective, along with the leadership
perspective Peter Tomorrow, I just I don't think could be
more wrong. And I just I wish that he wasn't
even in the White House. But that's a whole for conversation, right.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I want to just dust I mean before you move on, though,
I want to dust out what you just said, because
there's probably some people looking at the radio and saying, well,
this is why you're irrelevant. Republics are Republicans are irrelevant,
and Democrats are irrelevant. Get on board. This is the
new American first, this is the new trump Ism. And
and I'm kind of that because you know me, I'm
not a Democrat because I don't have their worldview, policy views,
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platform views. I have nothing in common with them whatsoever.
I'm not a Republican because they failed to live their platform.
So I'm somewhere in between. But what you're dusting out
is important, and that is that if look when Barack
Obama was a narcissist, all right, and a lot of
Republicans were quick to point that out. This guy was
(08:15):
all about his celebrity, all about himself. He was a narcissist.
He can't have a narcissist in the White House. Well,
the first Donald Trump was a narcissist. I think since
the assassination attempt in Newfound Faith, I think he's less
of that. Bill Maher's proof of that, having met him.
But narcissism's wrong no matter who the narcissist is, and
what happens in the matrix is when it's a left narcissist,
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it's okay to the left. When it's a right narcissist,
it's not okay to the left, and vice versa. And
the same can be true in worshiping of the presidency.
This is something David Zanatti and I both talk about
a lot that you know, the Congress is to have
the most power because it's the closest to the people,
and we in the House, the People's House, we have
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the populace represented, and then for state, we have two
senators from every state. And that's how the country should
be controlled, and the president should just be the executor
overseeing it. And it's gotten backwards, and I think it
goes back to probably a little bit of Roosevelt on
the radio, a little bit of Ike, but a whole
lot of John F. Kennedy on television, and we have
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come to worship the presidency like a king. And it's
not so what you're saying is very important for people
to hear. Not in the context of, well, he's not
supporting Trump, so he's the enemy. No, I mean, look,
no matter who the president is, the Congress needs to prevail.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
When I see when I see power wielded without guardrails,
it worries me. Not because I don't trust President Trump.
I do, But what I what I think about is
what happens when somebody, when another president comes in, where
Gretchen Whitmer or something else. It looks like we don't
know what's going to happen politically. That's not the point.
The point is the balance of power. The checks and
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balances are very important to put the long jevy of
our country because when there is somebody that we don't like,
or there's somebody that we don't trust in there who
doesn't have the best intge of America, that gets put
twenty fold on us. And so you know, it's very
important that Congress re emerges here, not just because of
everybody's in the same party. That's irrelevant. It's about the
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power that's wielded in the ability for this country to
continue to have that power split evenly, because ultimately, when
somebody we don't like in the lighthouse is going to
wield that we're not going to like the outcome. And
so it's important to keep even our own friends and
allies and the end the party between the booies because
it leads to a better outcome for everybody. And so again,
(10:40):
what we're seeing, you know, these judges and these other
things are pushing back, Well, then we don't like them
because we don't like what they're saying is President Trump.
But it's a piece of a of a guardrail that
keeps the balance going. And you know, if the washing
machine is out of balance, a lot of things get
out of balance in the country, and that's that's not
a good thing.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Look, I'm not preaching balunce and think.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Look, I want to I want to push back on
the liberalism that we've seen over the last forty years.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's a huge piece of that.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I'm grateful President Trump is doing that, but I think
there there is a Congress for a reason. It needs
to be in conjunction with and in cooperation with, not
just innilateral.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
All right, So bottom line is should should he have
started with the tax cuts? I don't know that. I
heard a clearance absolutely absolutely well.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Look, I love from thebal's income tax. I think part
of the problem with the tariffs are as an argument
for revenue is.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
That when tariffs were our major source of revenue, there
was no income tax. And look, when we went down
the income.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Tax problem, that was a huge moment for our country
that I think we shouldn'tdo well.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I think I think that when you hear what income
tax is.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Bad, But but when you hear the sounds. When you
hear the sounds of the day, you're going to hear
Peter Nabarro basically kind of give you a glimpse of
that that it's all of that, that that that's coming,
and that the amount of revenue from the tariffs will
bring about and pay for the tax cuts. But I
think what you and I suspect is, I wonder if
(12:04):
somebody has the ambition of abolishing federal income tax altogether
and creating.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
A Peter Navarro. I think that's fine. The problem is
is that what we're seeing is the second these terriffs
get really hard, we pull back on them, and rightfully so,
I mean, look at what happens to the stock markers
last week. You can't just do It's not just the theory.
And so this is going to be a ten to
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fifteen year glide path to get off of a lot
of these dopamine trips that we have relative to the economy.
So yeah, let's get if there's a vision there, great, But.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
To institute what we've seen so far is when.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It needs to be a fifteen step program.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Here, you know, I think it's unrealistic.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So yeah, if it's going to have a boss income tax
and lower tax pervity all board, let's go. But also
let's talk about that. We don't have to play the
shell game where it's like, oh, well, this is coming
down the line to do the tariffs first, what is
the what is the vision over the of the rest
of administration to get there? And it's so great, But
we're saying we're being told to take medicine right now
just on tariffs when three fourths of the problem hasn't
(13:09):
even been discussed or even outlined in any great detail.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Well, no matter what size anybody falls on, we're all
witnessing Trump either playing a great smart super chess game
of trade or this is a mess and exemptions as
he goes. You say mess, others may say whatever. The
reality is, we're going to arrive this direction and motion
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will arrive at a destination and it's either going to
be chess or mess. But we can add now what
smartphones and computer chips to the exemption list as well,
And that's that's.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Part of the problem too, Michael.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You know we're talking about on shoring or you know,
there's national trade implications. COVID outlined a lot of problems
where we're weak and vulnerable, and those are all laudable goals,
but they're feckless when you do exemptions. If we're talking
about pharmaceuticals and chips creation needing to be brought back
to America, you can't exempt them and the tariffs to
say that that's the goal here. Again, I don't want
(14:08):
to call the mess, but you can't. There's an effort
here to try to have it both ways, and that's
that's just not a realistic situation here. If you're if
the goal is to decouple ourselves from China, which is
a lot of a goal, you can't exempt the most
serious issues from that from these tariffs as part of
the issue. It's not going to do what you wanted.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
To do.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Cheaper for trying to create the iPhone than it is for.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
People to manufacture it here to the park that it
would be care from China.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's crazy. Chris Walker is our GOP analyst and consultant
and weekly visitor all Things Republican. It's your morning show
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Angela we Go.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I'd like to say that for one, negotiating takes multiple meetings.
It may not be the first one I think we're
just announcing too much. To the analyst in their tone
is so pessimistic as his is that maybe you just
wait it out, let it ride, will be okay.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You know, look, I think the president is playing chess.
I just think there's a little bit of mess mixed in,
but that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's like Red and I were talking off the air
the analogy of war. This country wouldn't have the stomach
for World War two today. You couldn't turn to this
country and say, deliberate the world, here's the sacrifices we're
going to make. Your children, millions of them, are going
to die. Your life and your dreams and your wishes,
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you're going to have to give all that up, and
you know, work producing things with steel, So you got
to do this stuff kind of, you know, and keep
people on board who have very little stomach for prioritizing
and making sacrifices. So I think the president is playing chess,
and not just what China is having to play it
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with a part, an opposing party that's really like an enemy,
and a country that is not used to making sacrifices
to get to a greater good. So yeah, I think
it's mostly chess with a little bit of mess and
a whole lot of adjustment as this goes on.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
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A Wisconsin tine charged with killing his mother and stepfather
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check up. The FAA says the tour company that operated
the fatal flight that crashed into the Hudson River is
shutting down and history was made. At Augusta, Rory McElroy
gets the elusive Master's Jacket and his sudden death victory
over Justin Rose, but in doing so, he completes the
Grand Slam, which is winning the Master's US Open British
Open and PGA Championship. And yes, not even Arnold Palmer
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has done that. Gene Sarahs and Ben Hogan, Gary Player,
Jack Nicholas, Tiger Woods and now Rory McElroy. That's history
to the talkback line we go and Roger, who fears
he talks to us too much, is talking to us again.
Cornie Michael.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
After the last interview with mister Walker, I'd like to
ask him what his specific ideas are what should be
done right now? All I really heard was, Hey, we
better just keep doing the thing. Trade, trade, trade, no
matter how I'm bounced it is, and I realized that
this process is going to be like watching sausage being made.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Not fun to watch, but the end results pretty good.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Also, could you share what it takes to become unrigid
as a Republican. I think he just inspired me to
do that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's a little harsh, Roger. I live in a state
where you don't register as a Democrat or a Republican.
It's an open state, so it's not necessary for me
if you live in one of those states. I think
Oklahoma was that way. I think in Oklahoma we registered
as Republican, Democrat or independent. You may have to change
your registration. I don't know that you should do it
over that interview by any stretch of the imagination. Look,
(19:26):
I love an, I respect Chris Walker. He's here to
give us a Republican perspective. If I could find a
Democrat that would be willing to come on once a week,
I would do that as well. That doesn't mean we're
always going to agree. I don't know that we agree
on a way more than we disagree on on this one.
And I gave him a false choice. That's on me,
because chess and mess matched. But I was basically just
(19:47):
trying to everybody's viewing this as a mess. It's gonna
you know. I mean, the left is still trying to
tell you it's going to lead a recession, economic collapse,
as president's destroying our countries, destroying our country. That's that's
what I mean when I say mass, I just think
it's chess with some as we go little changes. And
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I don't know that those changes aren't so much to
avoid Congress as it is to avoid the lack of
the American people's ability to sacrifice and suffer very long.
But it's just like war. You got to react and
you don't lay out your plans and nothing's at Shinstone.
It has to be fluid, you know. Just look what
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do we always say after a team, you know, places
poorly in a first half, They got to make some
halftime adjustments. You know, sometime you we don't say that
that's you know, a mass No, that's smart coaching. You
make a few adjustments. So but look, remember what the
theme for the day is. We can still disagree without
hating or disassociating. And ultimately this will be the president's legacy.
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And he certainly gets high grades for the border. He
did that fast. He's got a history of doing things
smarter than we see coming. And well that's why I
want to get to Sounds of the day so bad,
because you'll get the other side of the chess part
from Peter Navarrow here in a moment, all right, everybody look.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Alone, Look, you just gotta try harder after the opportunity
for a brief civics lesson.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Sure, perhaps whoms I could be alone with a deteriorating
mental condition.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
What I really liked, and I go ahead, I'll do
my own music was Jim Nance the first eighteenth rory
coming up looking like he nailed the drive with the
one stroke lead, Jim starts going into all the narratives.
An only child of an impoverished Northern Ireland family, his
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father only had enough money for one token rory, probably
thinking Dad, what about a side hustle. I'm trying to
achieve a dream here. No, he got his thirty balls,
he practiced. He's winning this one for Destiny's sake. But
Jim is doing all of those narratives, and then all
of a sudden he hits it into the trap and
then he bog's and we go to sudden death. Suddenly,
(22:17):
what about Justin Rose's wife? What about the elusive green
jacket for this one of many siblings? But I want
to play for you to get rid of I gotta
get rid of it. Now that's right, I did it,
not you. Here's jim nance. Now we're in sudden death.
We're back at the eighteen rory with the great drive
again within two yards of where his original drive was
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in the final round, Only this time he puts it
three feet from the hole and here comes the pot
for the green jacket for the career Grand Slam. But
notice how Jim is narrating his way even up to
the final. The lolling shadows like at this moment, Yes,
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very symbolic. The journey is taken to get here from
the sacrifices for all those history. Now the line I
prepared to give forty minutes ago and this goes. The
long journey is over? How they how's his masterpiece? I
(23:25):
I want to tell you the difference between if you've
never played with a professional golfer like I used to
belong at kay Lord Springs here in Nashville, a links course.
It's just absolutely picturesque, one of the most beautiful courses
you'll ever play, very very difficult, and it was always
a struggle for me and a buddy of mine played
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with from Nashville, A Shrieker not Shrieker, Brent Snedeker. And
I said, oh, really, how did Brent Brett play? And
he goes, well, he one putted every green, which is
unthinkable for me on that course. He literally one putted
every single green, shot something like a fifty four. I mean,
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you don't know how much better they are than scratch.
They're actually so good it's inconceivable. You See, I can
go on a basketball court and I can make a
thirty footer. I can't do anything they do every Sunday,
but mostly what they do, in addition to their ability,
is the way they can control their mind and emotions,
something we can't do every day on a golf course.
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What Rory was going through sixteen times in failing and
what he was striving for his entire life, and when
you see the split second that ball hits the hole
and how those emotions release, it was really it was
really a mind boggling human moment. What you saw flying
out of him is what he had been holding in
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all day and managing to play. I think my take
on Rory was he played his best and worst golf
all in the same round over and over again. And
you and I would have a double boge like that,
and that I have been on a golf course. I've twice.
I have two that. Remember I was like maybe two
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overpower after fourteen, and my wife called with some troubles
at home. Double boge, double bogie, triple bogey, double boge,
single boge, triple bogie. That's how it ended. That's how
mental the game is. His double bogie and d Chambeau
just flies in front of him heading to hole three.
Would it cause most people to cave. He comes back,
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then he caves again, then he comes back, comes back,
then ends up in sudden depth and comes back, and
then you see all that if you've never watched the
video of the minute the ball goes in the hole
and the physical emotional reaction and when you're watching it,
next time you watch it, think that's what he's been
holding in all while he was doing these extraordinary things.
(25:57):
You were watching And that's why we had somebody that
was critical of he wasn't high firing and talking to
people on his long walk. I was afraid he wasn't
gonna be able to make it to the building. There
was so much emotion it looked like a panic attack almost.
It was just absolutely extraordinary. Look, Roy McElroy, not to
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make a mountain out of a Molehill is in a
very elite group right now. He is now one of
great golf's greatest golfers. And only Tiger Woods, Jack Nicholas,
Gary Player, Ben Hogan and Jean Sarason have achieved what
he has. That puts you in a pretty special place.
I don't know, I've got the the latest. Harry Enton
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on the shocking numbers I got the late I don't
even know why we do. Jasmine Crockett clips. That's like
if a tree falls in the forest doesn't make a noise,
I'm going to do Peter Peter Navarro real quick. If
Donald Trump is playing chess, if it's a mess, Peter
Navarro is the problem. If it's chess, Peter Navarro is
the solution. And here's Peter Navarro on NBC's Meet the
(27:07):
Press defending its chess not a mess. Listen.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
We had really good news on the inflation front. Both
the producer price Index, hotel prices, consumer price Index had
the lowest print since the fall of twenty twenty three.
Really good news, and nobody expected that. And the reason
why that kind of thing's happening is because the Trump
policies on other fronts, with oils down to sixty one
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dollars a barrel.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
So but the other thing, and this is like should
have been in that little package you had at the beginning.
The Congress passed the resolution, the Budget Resolution, which lays
the groundwork for having the biggest broadest tax cut in
American history before August.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Now, what does that mean?
Speaker 8 (27:52):
What does it mean for both recession and inflation. It
means that we're going to have a debt neutral tax
cut financed by tariff revenues that's going to stimulate growth.
It could be worth as much of a point and
a half in terms of GDP growth. At the same time,
it's deflationary, not inflationary. It's unlike the Biden fiscal measures,
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which were just pure debt driven.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
So there's really good news here.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
And I predicted fifty thousand on the DOWT predicted a
broad based S and P rally. I don't even know
this Christian, but it was seven Ai stocks that pulled
up the S and P five hundred during the Biden years.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's not growth and yet all right, So that's that
side of it. Now, the chess would indicate that it's
not one isolated thing or the other. It's removing these
trade barriers, it's leveling the playing field, it's isolating China.
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It's getting the tax cuts. It may even be ultimately
using the tariff revenue to maybe even look at dramatically
lowering going from dramatically lowering federal taxation to eliminating it.
Is it chess or is it mess? Time will tell it,
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really will? I don't know how much of this one.
This one has the you know what bomb in it.
I better not do it. But we spend a lot
of time. This is the safest. It jumps around, and
it's not the best. But Bill Maher reported on his
show about his visit to the White House with Donald Trump.
(29:36):
Here's how it sounded.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
But dinner that was set up by my friend Kid
Rock first good sign.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Before I left for the Capitol.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I had my staff collect and print out this list
of almost sixteen different insulting epithets that the President has.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Said about me.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I brought this to the White House because I wanted
him to sign it, which he did, which he did
with good humor. And I know, as I say that,
millions of liberal sphincters just tightened.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Oh and I read the comments earlier in the five
o'clock hour. They were tightened. And then one from the
Washington Post reporter even attacked him for it, and he
put him in his place. But here's Bill Maher reporting
on how the visit went.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
So no, I didn't go maga, and to the President's credit,
there was.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
No pressure too, just for starters. He laughs. I've never
seen him laugh in public.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
But he does, including it himself, and it's not fake.
At one point we were walking through his amazing it
is Amazing tour of the whole House, and I don't
remember exactly what we were talking about, but it must
have been something with the twenty twenty election, because I
know he used the word lost, and I distinctly remember saying, wow,
I never thought i'd hear.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
You say that.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
He didn't get mad. He's much more self aware and
he lets on public. Look, I get it. It doesn't
matter who he is at a private dinner with a comedian.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It matters who he is on the world stage.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I'm just taking as a positive that this person exists,
because everything I've ever not liked about him was I
swear to God, absent, at least on this night with
this guy. Bob kid Rock told me the night before,
he said, if you want to get a word in edgewise,
you're gonna have to cut him off.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
He'll just go on not at all.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I've had so many conversations with prominent people who are
much less connected, people who don't look you in the eye,
people don't really listen because they just want to get
to their next thing. People whose responds to things you
say just doesn't track, like what none of that with him,
and he mostly steered the conversation, d what do you
(31:50):
think about this?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I know your mind is blown, so's mine. He goes
on and on. Look, the bottom line is he found
the president not to be the devil, not to be
a crazy boogeyman, and that you can be with somebody
(32:12):
and have disagreements and you don't have to hate them.
And it begs the question in America, could we ever
return to where if we don't agree on And it's
not we agree on most of the things we agree on,
but we focus on any one thing. I think it
was somebody from Saint Louis called in earlier and said,
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think about this moment. There was a time you'd be
canceled if you said something good about Donald Trump. Now
he's got a lot of grief, he's getting for it.
But what if it ends as a role model that
it's okay to disagree without demonizing and hating. By the way,
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that begs the question, Now what does that lead the Democrats?
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talking all morning long, and I don't know why it
took me all morning long to make such a case,
but we've been following the death of journalism. We've been
following the and that of course weakens the left's control
of narrative. With the death of technocracy, which was how
they silenced opposing views, the death of the intelligentsia, not
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just at the university level that's all been backfiring, but
even at their control of the k through twelve and
we're seeing the federal government dismantling the Department of Education.
So I mean, these are all the things that I
have spent my entire career fighting against the very things
that I thought were the greatest enemy of our country
from within, controlling false narratives, silencing any opposing views, very Unamerican.
(02:37):
The socialization and indoctrination that went from the universities to
K through twelve all dismantled. And then we just systematically
see wokeness die instantly. And in this Bill Maher meeting
with Donald Trump, is this the beginning of the matrix dying?
You know, the notion that you can disagree with someone
(02:57):
and still like them, whether you can disagree with someone
without hating them or wanting them dead. Now there's some
and it's only on the far left left that still
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(03:19):
if you will. Now we're joined by Chris Walker, who
is a GOP contributor to your morning show, All Things Republican.
We've been following Donald Trump in this whole trade, tariff process, negotiation,
whatever it is. Now we have the exemptions for certain
(03:39):
things that keep coming out smartphones, computer chips. Is this
still a game of super smart chess? Or is this
caving as you go? I guess the first question is
is this chess or mess or both?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I mean, you know my feelings on this. This is mess.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I just can't. I can't see another. If it were
forty chess, we would be there would be some consistency.
And that's what what bothers me about it. You know,
one day it's a revenue generator, another day it's reshowing jobs,
another day it's you know, a negotiating tactic. All three
of those are are worthy in different ways, but none
of that they're.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
All mutually exclusive.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
So you know, I think it is generally it's an
idea that you know, it's lawable in the sense of
rethinking how to fund the government to the tune of
you know, trillions of dollars of unaccountable dollars profit the
stock market is an unsustainable situation. You know, losing jobs
(04:39):
in the middle of the country and hollowing it out
to China is an unsustainable situation.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You know what I thought about this.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Weekend that I keep kind of coming back to, you know,
incentives work. You know, states spend lots of money to
try to bring jobs to their states, and there's a
lot of ways that we can do it. We're still
the most prosperous nation on earth for a reason, and
I think a lot of that is based on, you know,
the trade that we've had over the long rule. Are
there are there trade and balances, yes, but that also
means that we also can buy a lot more and
(05:08):
I think all of that has been a negative net positive.
And so you know, President Trump wanting to kind of
solve some of these problems and fix them is laudable.
But like I say with anybody, you know, intentions are good,
but the outcomes are what you really need to look at.
And if we're adopting protectionist policies the Democrats have done
for forever, what are we really talking about here? So
(05:29):
in my view, I think pre trade is the best
way for prosperity, the best way for job creation, and
the best way to keep our country on the process
path that it's been on.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Peter Navarrow is going to be in our Sounds of
the Day, and he was on meet the press. He
kind of lays out the chess portion of this, and
the thesis of what he's saying is is it's you
can't isolate any one of these things. You have to
look at all of them and how they interact one
with another. And that final missing piece, which is the
tax cuts that are coming. I guess it's just different
(06:01):
than what you know. I'm not necessarily siding with you.
I think tariffs are a dangerous game to play, and
I think some of it is necessary to even the
playing field, especially with our friends. Some of it is
necessary in terms of isolating China because they are different,
what they do with currency, what they do with stealing
(06:22):
of our intelligence, and unfair trade practices and barriers. I
think that does need to be addressed. But I would
have fought first you'd secure the border, and he did,
then you would address the economy, and you would start
with this tax cut. It looks like that's going to
be the final piece. And I don't know if there's
some chess or mess in that in choosing the order.
(06:44):
I guess I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You, well, I mean, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I mean, part of.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It is what can Congress accomplish.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Part of it was can do. And I think that's
another piece of this. It needs to be talked about.
Congress needs to step up. The president is not unilateral
terif authority. You know, trust President Trump. I think he's
I think he's a great man. I think he's got
well intentioned, but he does not have the power he's
wielding in terms of it. As with tariffs, you have
to have Congress involvedm with it because unilateral trade deals
(07:11):
are not you know, you can't unilaterally raise taxes on people,
and yet that's kind of what's happening.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Here with certain degree. So I mean, there's a lot
of things that when you.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Think about from a constitutional perspective, along with the leadership
perspective Peter Tomorrow, I just I don't think could be
more wrong. And I just I wish that he wasn't
even in the White House. But that's a whole for conversation, right.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I want to just dust I mean before you move on, though,
I want to dust out what you just said, because
there's probably some people looking at the radio and saying, well,
this is why you're irrelevant. Republics are Republicans are irrelevant,
and Democrats are irrelevant. Get on board. This is the
new American first, this is the new trump Ism. And
and I'm kind of that because you know me, I'm
not a Democrat because I don't have their worldview, policy views,
(07:53):
platform views. I have nothing in common with them whatsoever.
I'm not a Republican because they failed to live their platform.
So I'm somewhere in between. But what you're dusting out
is important, and that is that if look when Barack
Obama was a narcissist, all right, and a lot of
Republicans were quick to point that out. This guy was
(08:15):
all about his celebrity, all about himself. He was a narcissist.
He can't have a narcissist in the White House. Well,
the first Donald Trump was a narcissist. I think since
the assassination attempt in Newfound Faith, I think he's less
of that. Bill Maher's proof of that, having met him.
But narcissism's wrong no matter who the narcissist is, and
what happens in the matrix is when it's a left narcissist,
(08:35):
it's okay to the left. When it's a right narcissist,
it's not okay to the left, and vice versa. And
the same can be true in worshiping of the presidency.
This is something David Zanatti and I both talk about
a lot that you know, the Congress is to have
the most power because it's the closest to the people,
and we in the House, the People's House, we have
(08:57):
the populace represented, and then for state, we have two
senators from every state. And that's how the country should
be controlled, and the president should just be the executor
overseeing it. And it's gotten backwards, and I think it
goes back to probably a little bit of Roosevelt on
the radio, a little bit of Ike, but a whole
lot of John F. Kennedy on television, and we have
(09:18):
come to worship the presidency like a king. And it's
not so what you're saying is very important for people
to hear. Not in the context of, well, he's not
supporting Trump, so he's the enemy. No, I mean, look,
no matter who the president is, the Congress needs to prevail.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
When I see when I see power wielded without guardrails,
it worries me. Not because I don't trust President Trump.
I do, But what I what I think about is
what happens when somebody, when another president comes in, where
Gretchen Whitmer or something else. It looks like we don't
know what's going to happen politically. That's not the point.
The point is the balance of power. The checks and
(09:56):
balances are very important to put the long jevy of
our country because when there is somebody that we don't like,
or there's somebody that we don't trust in there who
doesn't have the best intge of America, that gets put
twenty fold on us. And so you know, it's very
important that Congress re emerges here, not just because of
everybody's in the same party. That's irrelevant. It's about the
(10:17):
power that's wielded in the ability for this country to
continue to have that power split evenly, because ultimately, when
somebody we don't like in the lighthouse is going to
wield that we're not going to like the outcome. And
so it's important to keep even our own friends and
allies and the end the party between the booies because
it leads to a better outcome for everybody. And so again,
(10:40):
what we're seeing, you know, these judges and these other
things are pushing back, Well, then we don't like them
because we don't like what they're saying is President Trump.
But it's a piece of a of a guardrail that
keeps the balance going. And you know, if the washing
machine is out of balance, a lot of things get
out of balance in the country, and that's that's not
a good thing.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Look, I'm not preaching balunce and think.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Look, I want to I want to push back on
the liberalism that we've seen over the last forty years.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's a huge piece of that.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I'm grateful President Trump is doing that, but I think
there there is a Congress for a reason. It needs
to be in conjunction with and in cooperation with, not
just innilateral.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
All right, So bottom line is should should he have
started with the tax cuts? I don't know that. I
heard a clearance absolutely absolutely well.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Look, I love from thebal's income tax. I think part
of the problem with the tariffs are as an argument
for revenue is.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
That when tariffs were our major source of revenue, there
was no income tax. And look, when we went down
the income.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Tax problem, that was a huge moment for our country
that I think we shouldn'tdo well.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I think I think that when you hear what income
tax is.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Bad, But but when you hear the sounds. When you
hear the sounds of the day, you're going to hear
Peter Nabarro basically kind of give you a glimpse of
that that it's all of that, that that that's coming,
and that the amount of revenue from the tariffs will
bring about and pay for the tax cuts. But I
think what you and I suspect is, I wonder if
(12:04):
somebody has the ambition of abolishing federal income tax altogether
and creating.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
A Peter Navarro. I think that's fine. The problem is
is that what we're seeing is the second these terriffs
get really hard, we pull back on them, and rightfully so,
I mean, look at what happens to the stock markers
last week. You can't just do It's not just the theory.
And so this is going to be a ten to
(12:30):
fifteen year glide path to get off of a lot
of these dopamine trips that we have relative to the economy.
So yeah, let's get if there's a vision there, great, But.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
To institute what we've seen so far is when.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It needs to be a fifteen step program.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Here, you know, I think it's unrealistic.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So yeah, if it's going to have a boss income tax
and lower tax pervity all board, let's go. But also
let's talk about that. We don't have to play the
shell game where it's like, oh, well, this is coming
down the line to do the tariffs first, what is
the what is the vision over the of the rest
of administration to get there? And it's so great, But
we're saying we're being told to take medicine right now
just on tariffs when three fourths of the problem hasn't
(13:09):
even been discussed or even outlined in any great detail.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Well, no matter what size anybody falls on, we're all
witnessing Trump either playing a great smart super chess game
of trade or this is a mess and exemptions as
he goes. You say mess, others may say whatever. The
reality is, we're going to arrive this direction and motion
(13:34):
will arrive at a destination and it's either going to
be chess or mess. But we can add now what
smartphones and computer chips to the exemption list as well,
And that's that's.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Part of the problem too, Michael.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You know we're talking about on shoring or you know,
there's national trade implications. COVID outlined a lot of problems
where we're weak and vulnerable, and those are all laudable goals,
but they're feckless when you do exemptions. If we're talking
about pharmaceuticals and chips creation needing to be brought back
to America, you can't exempt them and the tariffs to
say that that's the goal here. Again, I don't want
(14:08):
to call the mess, but you can't. There's an effort
here to try to have it both ways, and that's
that's just not a realistic situation here. If you're if
the goal is to decouple ourselves from China, which is
a lot of a goal, you can't exempt the most
serious issues from that from these tariffs as part of
the issue. It's not going to do what you wanted.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
To do.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Cheaper for trying to create the iPhone than it is for.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
People to manufacture it here to the park that it
would be care from China.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's crazy. Chris Walker is our GOP analyst and consultant
and weekly visitor all Things Republican. It's your morning show
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Angela we Go.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I'd like to say that for one, negotiating takes multiple meetings.
It may not be the first one I think we're
just announcing too much. To the analyst in their tone
is so pessimistic as his is that maybe you just
wait it out, let it ride, will be okay.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You know, look, I think the president is playing chess.
I just think there's a little bit of mess mixed in,
but that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's like Red and I were talking off the air
the analogy of war. This country wouldn't have the stomach
for World War two today. You couldn't turn to this
country and say, deliberate the world, here's the sacrifices we're
going to make. Your children, millions of them, are going
to die. Your life and your dreams and your wishes,
(15:40):
you're going to have to give all that up, and
you know, work producing things with steel, So you got
to do this stuff kind of, you know, and keep
people on board who have very little stomach for prioritizing
and making sacrifices. So I think the president is playing chess,
and not just what China is having to play it
(16:01):
with a part, an opposing party that's really like an enemy,
and a country that is not used to making sacrifices
to get to a greater good. So yeah, I think
it's mostly chess with a little bit of mess and
a whole lot of adjustment as this goes on.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
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to the talkback line we go and Roger, who fears
he talks to us too much, is talking to us again.
Cornie Michael.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
After the last interview with mister Walker, I'd like to
ask him what his specific ideas are what should be
done right now? All I really heard was, Hey, we
better just keep doing the thing. Trade, trade, trade, no
matter how I'm bounced it is, and I realized that
this process is going to be like watching sausage being made.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Not fun to watch, but the end results pretty good.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Also, could you share what it takes to become unrigid
as a Republican. I think he just inspired me to
do that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's a little harsh, Roger. I live in a state
where you don't register as a Democrat or a Republican.
It's an open state, so it's not necessary for me
if you live in one of those states. I think
Oklahoma was that way. I think in Oklahoma we registered
as Republican, Democrat or independent. You may have to change
your registration. I don't know that you should do it
over that interview by any stretch of the imagination. Look,
(19:26):
I love an, I respect Chris Walker. He's here to
give us a Republican perspective. If I could find a
Democrat that would be willing to come on once a week,
I would do that as well. That doesn't mean we're
always going to agree. I don't know that we agree
on a way more than we disagree on on this one.
And I gave him a false choice. That's on me,
because chess and mess matched. But I was basically just
(19:47):
trying to everybody's viewing this as a mess. It's gonna
you know. I mean, the left is still trying to
tell you it's going to lead a recession, economic collapse,
as president's destroying our countries, destroying our country. That's that's
what I mean when I say mass, I just think
it's chess with some as we go little changes. And
(20:10):
I don't know that those changes aren't so much to
avoid Congress as it is to avoid the lack of
the American people's ability to sacrifice and suffer very long.
But it's just like war. You got to react and
you don't lay out your plans and nothing's at Shinstone.
It has to be fluid, you know. Just look what
(20:33):
do we always say after a team, you know, places
poorly in a first half, They got to make some
halftime adjustments. You know, sometime you we don't say that
that's you know, a mass No, that's smart coaching. You
make a few adjustments. So but look, remember what the
theme for the day is. We can still disagree without
hating or disassociating. And ultimately this will be the president's legacy.
(20:59):
And he certainly gets high grades for the border. He
did that fast. He's got a history of doing things
smarter than we see coming. And well that's why I
want to get to Sounds of the day so bad,
because you'll get the other side of the chess part
from Peter Navarrow here in a moment, all right, everybody look.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Alone, Look, you just gotta try harder after the opportunity
for a brief civics lesson.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Sure, perhaps whoms I could be alone with a deteriorating
mental condition.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
What I really liked, and I go ahead, I'll do
my own music was Jim Nance the first eighteenth rory
coming up looking like he nailed the drive with the
one stroke lead, Jim starts going into all the narratives.
An only child of an impoverished Northern Ireland family, his
(21:55):
father only had enough money for one token rory, probably
thinking Dad, what about a side hustle. I'm trying to
achieve a dream here. No, he got his thirty balls,
he practiced. He's winning this one for Destiny's sake. But
Jim is doing all of those narratives, and then all
of a sudden he hits it into the trap and
then he bog's and we go to sudden death. Suddenly,
(22:17):
what about Justin Rose's wife? What about the elusive green
jacket for this one of many siblings? But I want
to play for you to get rid of I gotta
get rid of it. Now that's right, I did it,
not you. Here's jim nance. Now we're in sudden death.
We're back at the eighteen rory with the great drive
again within two yards of where his original drive was
(22:40):
in the final round, Only this time he puts it
three feet from the hole and here comes the pot
for the green jacket for the career Grand Slam. But
notice how Jim is narrating his way even up to
the final. The lolling shadows like at this moment, Yes,
(23:02):
very symbolic. The journey is taken to get here from
the sacrifices for all those history. Now the line I
prepared to give forty minutes ago and this goes. The
long journey is over? How they how's his masterpiece? I
(23:25):
I want to tell you the difference between if you've
never played with a professional golfer like I used to
belong at kay Lord Springs here in Nashville, a links course.
It's just absolutely picturesque, one of the most beautiful courses
you'll ever play, very very difficult, and it was always
a struggle for me and a buddy of mine played
(23:47):
with from Nashville, A Shrieker not Shrieker, Brent Snedeker. And
I said, oh, really, how did Brent Brett play? And
he goes, well, he one putted every green, which is
unthinkable for me on that course. He literally one putted
every single green, shot something like a fifty four. I mean,
(24:11):
you don't know how much better they are than scratch.
They're actually so good it's inconceivable. You See, I can
go on a basketball court and I can make a
thirty footer. I can't do anything they do every Sunday,
but mostly what they do, in addition to their ability,
is the way they can control their mind and emotions,
something we can't do every day on a golf course.
(24:33):
What Rory was going through sixteen times in failing and
what he was striving for his entire life, and when
you see the split second that ball hits the hole
and how those emotions release, it was really it was
really a mind boggling human moment. What you saw flying
out of him is what he had been holding in
(24:54):
all day and managing to play. I think my take
on Rory was he played his best and worst golf
all in the same round over and over again. And
you and I would have a double boge like that,
and that I have been on a golf course. I've twice.
I have two that. Remember I was like maybe two
(25:15):
overpower after fourteen, and my wife called with some troubles
at home. Double boge, double bogie, triple bogey, double boge,
single boge, triple bogie. That's how it ended. That's how
mental the game is. His double bogie and d Chambeau
just flies in front of him heading to hole three.
Would it cause most people to cave. He comes back,
(25:36):
then he caves again, then he comes back, comes back,
then ends up in sudden depth and comes back, and
then you see all that if you've never watched the
video of the minute the ball goes in the hole
and the physical emotional reaction and when you're watching it,
next time you watch it, think that's what he's been
holding in all while he was doing these extraordinary things.
(25:57):
You were watching And that's why we had somebody that
was critical of he wasn't high firing and talking to
people on his long walk. I was afraid he wasn't
gonna be able to make it to the building. There
was so much emotion it looked like a panic attack almost.
It was just absolutely extraordinary. Look, Roy McElroy, not to
(26:20):
make a mountain out of a Molehill is in a
very elite group right now. He is now one of
great golf's greatest golfers. And only Tiger Woods, Jack Nicholas,
Gary Player, Ben Hogan and Jean Sarason have achieved what
he has. That puts you in a pretty special place.
I don't know, I've got the the latest. Harry Enton
(26:43):
on the shocking numbers I got the late I don't
even know why we do. Jasmine Crockett clips. That's like
if a tree falls in the forest doesn't make a noise,
I'm going to do Peter Peter Navarro real quick. If
Donald Trump is playing chess, if it's a mess, Peter
Navarro is the problem. If it's chess, Peter Navarro is
the solution. And here's Peter Navarro on NBC's Meet the
(27:07):
Press defending its chess not a mess. Listen.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
We had really good news on the inflation front. Both
the producer price Index, hotel prices, consumer price Index had
the lowest print since the fall of twenty twenty three.
Really good news, and nobody expected that. And the reason
why that kind of thing's happening is because the Trump
policies on other fronts, with oils down to sixty one
(27:32):
dollars a barrel.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
So but the other thing, and this is like should
have been in that little package you had at the beginning.
The Congress passed the resolution, the Budget Resolution, which lays
the groundwork for having the biggest broadest tax cut in
American history before August.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Now, what does that mean?
Speaker 8 (27:52):
What does it mean for both recession and inflation. It
means that we're going to have a debt neutral tax
cut financed by tariff revenues that's going to stimulate growth.
It could be worth as much of a point and
a half in terms of GDP growth. At the same time,
it's deflationary, not inflationary. It's unlike the Biden fiscal measures,
(28:14):
which were just pure debt driven.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
So there's really good news here.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
And I predicted fifty thousand on the DOWT predicted a
broad based S and P rally. I don't even know
this Christian, but it was seven Ai stocks that pulled
up the S and P five hundred during the Biden years.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's not growth and yet all right, So that's that
side of it. Now, the chess would indicate that it's
not one isolated thing or the other. It's removing these
trade barriers, it's leveling the playing field, it's isolating China.
(28:51):
It's getting the tax cuts. It may even be ultimately
using the tariff revenue to maybe even look at dramatically
lowering going from dramatically lowering federal taxation to eliminating it.
Is it chess or is it mess? Time will tell it,
(29:14):
really will? I don't know how much of this one.
This one has the you know what bomb in it.
I better not do it. But we spend a lot
of time. This is the safest. It jumps around, and
it's not the best. But Bill Maher reported on his
show about his visit to the White House with Donald Trump.
(29:36):
Here's how it sounded.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
But dinner that was set up by my friend Kid
Rock first good sign.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Before I left for the Capitol.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I had my staff collect and print out this list
of almost sixteen different insulting epithets that the President has.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Said about me.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I brought this to the White House because I wanted
him to sign it, which he did, which he did
with good humor. And I know, as I say that,
millions of liberal sphincters just tightened.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Oh and I read the comments earlier in the five
o'clock hour. They were tightened. And then one from the
Washington Post reporter even attacked him for it, and he
put him in his place. But here's Bill Maher reporting
on how the visit went.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
So no, I didn't go maga, and to the President's credit,
there was.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
No pressure too, just for starters. He laughs. I've never
seen him laugh in public.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
But he does, including it himself, and it's not fake.
At one point we were walking through his amazing it
is Amazing tour of the whole House, and I don't
remember exactly what we were talking about, but it must
have been something with the twenty twenty election, because I
know he used the word lost, and I distinctly remember saying, wow,
I never thought i'd hear.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
You say that.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
He didn't get mad. He's much more self aware and
he lets on public. Look, I get it. It doesn't
matter who he is at a private dinner with a comedian.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It matters who he is on the world stage.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I'm just taking as a positive that this person exists,
because everything I've ever not liked about him was I
swear to God, absent, at least on this night with
this guy. Bob kid Rock told me the night before,
he said, if you want to get a word in edgewise,
you're gonna have to cut him off.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
He'll just go on not at all.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I've had so many conversations with prominent people who are
much less connected, people who don't look you in the eye,
people don't really listen because they just want to get
to their next thing. People whose responds to things you
say just doesn't track, like what none of that with him,
and he mostly steered the conversation, d what do you
(31:50):
think about this?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I know your mind is blown, so's mine. He goes
on and on. Look, the bottom line is he found
the president not to be the devil, not to be
a crazy boogeyman, and that you can be with somebody
(32:12):
and have disagreements and you don't have to hate them.
And it begs the question in America, could we ever
return to where if we don't agree on And it's
not we agree on most of the things we agree on,
but we focus on any one thing. I think it
was somebody from Saint Louis called in earlier and said,
(32:34):
think about this moment. There was a time you'd be
canceled if you said something good about Donald Trump. Now
he's got a lot of grief, he's getting for it.
But what if it ends as a role model that
it's okay to disagree without demonizing and hating. By the way,
(32:55):
that begs the question, Now what does that lead the Democrats?
This is your Morning Show with Michael Del Chrono. The
NBA finished in season, but Herry, don't be sad. There's
still four months to go, the playoffs will begin. In fact,
the play in tournament the Memphis grizz will be taken
on the Warriors. That'll be tomorrow, and then the Kings
(33:17):
and Sacramento have the MAVs On Wednesday in the NHL
Lightning beat the Sabers seven to four, Ducks fell to
the Abs four to two. Dodgers won the lost that
game of the Cubs late night if you fell asleep
last night. And birthdays today, Sarah Michelle Geller forty eight
Bucks quarterback Baker Mayfield, the namesake of my dog, thirty
years old today, Reach your season three. I mean, Anthony
(33:40):
Michael Hall was terrific, and I'm not gonna spoil I'm
just saying he was terrific in it. And he's fifty
seven today. Oh, you're gonna love it. And then everybody
loves Raymonds. Brad Garrett always been a favorite of mine.
Sixty five years old. That's your birthday. Happy birthday to you.
We're so glad you were born and thanks for making
us a part of your big day. All right, that'll
do it. Tomorrow's tax Day, but that'll do it for Monday,
April Quarantine. We're all in this together. This is your
(34:03):
Morning Show with Michael del Jorno
Speaker 6 (34:11):
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