Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald, interviewed Egypt Sherrod and Mike Jackso. The HGTV power couple, Egypt Sherrod and Mike Jackso. They’re here to discuss their hit HGTV series, “Married to Real Estate,” and how their authenticity as a family on camera is the genuine article and not just an act they put on for the sake of T . Plus, you’ll get a behind the discussions on how this show began and the surprising history that Egypt has with me, Rushion McDonald.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you're about to make a change in your life
and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can
have because for the first time in your life, you'll
make a new decision that's going to be best for
you and not what somebody told you to do. And
that's when all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making
Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host with Shan McDonald. Our theme
(00:22):
is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams.
I recognize that we all have different definitions of success.
For you and maybe the size of your HM. It's
time to stop reading other people's success stories to start
living your own keep winning. My guest, longtime friend, powerhouse
(00:43):
and real estate broker and designer Egypt Taraud and a husband.
He's newby life, like I've stated, builder Mike Jackson. They're
based in Atlanta. If you can be a dreamer and
you want to dream about it your home or your fantasy,
your place that you want to rest your head and
your family, think about it. Egypt will design it and
Mike will build it. That's a slogan, not buying.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's theirs.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
They know plenty by juggling the booming property business, pleasing clients,
managing their home and raising three daughters. And they are
beautiful dollars, so precious, especially the young one when he
had when you have this one scene when he walking
around with a pamp on.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
His head, You're gonna love him.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
They make it look effortless and fun in an HGTV
series Marriage to Real Estate. You can also catch Egypt
and Mike's guest judges in the last season of HGTV's
mega hit home renovation competition series Rock the Block, where
you see four competing teams. We're looking at the renovation.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
King and Queen King and Queen of AHG TV. We
claim and thank you for Sean. We appreciate that love.
And you are absolutely right. I've been around you and
I we know each other quite well.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Absolutely, but it's a good but you know something each
it's a good been around because all the time I've
always seen you. First of all, your personality has been positive.
And one thing I've loved about her, Mike, is that
you know opportunities. She's not She's fearless because that's what
a lot of people do. Because met her in radio
and so when some people start saying I want to
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do something else. They can get so locked and comfortable,
they don't do it, and so and so, so many
different levels and so and that was that was that
was urban radio that she was in, Okay, and then
she can't Now she's coming into another area of I
want to say, just there's not we don't see many
black people, won't see so many people of color like
(02:28):
you too. That's why it's so refreshing to see that.
And I like to believe this is something we're going
to see on the regular basis. But and seeing the
first two episodes of your new series, Marriage to Real Estate,
I found a family environment that I was engaged with.
But more importantly, this is what y'all do. I never
questioned that you guys who are prop I never caught
(02:50):
you know what I'm saying that that's what can happen. You know,
they get a cute couple like you guys, you got
the cute little children. You know, they say, y'all be
a great TV show. It's no doubt in my mind
this is what y'all do. But each I have to
go back to this because you know, this is I
call this my masterclass series. Because you're talking about people
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in a market. Now, we all know it's hard to
get a home out that nowadays. Okay, it's sometimes thirty
people waiting on the same building and trying to call
their home. How did y'all how did y'all? How were
y'all able to do a series and this type of
real estate boom where homes are scarce and people is
trying to make a decision on different properties while you're
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doing the show.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So, Ri Sean, you know, I'm a real estate broker.
It's what I've done for, you know, twenty years. And
that also means that I've lived through and strived through
and grew through every real estate environment. You know, when
the bubble burst and you know, people were losing their
houses and needed to be saved with short you know,
from foreclosures with short sales. I coached them through it
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and help clients through that. Now we're in an environment
where first time home buyers are being edged how completely.
Even experienced home buyers are like one of thirty different
offers and listenings are going for fifty sixty seventy thousand
over ass in price. I mean, it's crazy out here
right now, but I think that this is what I've
been built for. If that makes sense, all these years
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of working through living, through existing, through buying, through renovating,
through in our own lives has prepared us for this
moment where we can help our clients through and there.
If I told you the hows and would, I would
be giving away all my tricks of the trade when
I go up against other offers. So I won't go there.
But what I will say is stay encouraged. And if
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you're in the market to buy a home, make sure
all real estate agents were not created equal. They were not.
You take a class, you get a license if you
pass the test. But what you want is a seasoned,
experience shown and proven real estate professional who can coach
you and come up with a strategy to help you,
you know, get successfully to the line.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Great now, Mike, you know when I google Egypt, you know,
a lot of things pop up. Pictures, photos, she's posing
this way, posing this way, television show, television show. You know,
it's just a background into entertainment. You this business or
I just see a reference to a business. Give us
a little background on your journey into a home building,
renovations and in this market, and so we can get
(05:23):
assist your culture and your expertise.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Definitely. Definitely.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
So I've been in construction, I want to say since
I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I started with my uncle and my grandfather. They had
a construction company, would and they would always bring me
along future forward. I started with the local twenty eight
trade in New York City where I was a journeysman
for sheet metalwork, right, and then I transitioned into owning
my own company, which is Jackson Draper Renovations, where we
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pretty much do it all carpentry, plumbing, electricity, you know,
exterior work, all of the above. It's myself and my uncle,
my partner, which is you'll see him on the show
as well.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
His name is Mark.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And this is what I do. You know, my wife
and I were teaming up what you're seeing on the
show where we're trying to merge the two businesses under
one umbrella, you know, bring a real estate construction design.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, one design house, one design house. But you gotta
you're gonna tell her. I don't think he knows the
full story that that's how we met.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It is how we met.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yes, thank you, thank you kept his brother out like
you do on the show. Anyway, he knew He's knew.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
That.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It's not that I was trying not to take up
too much of the time.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I said, this is a masterclass we're teaching. We're educating
people about this beautiful couple.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Here's what was on my mind is why I didn't
want to talk to much about me, because I wanted
to piggyback off of the discussion you brought up in
the beginning. As far as we're not being feelless, she's
beyond that feelings. She's also selfless. Yes, she's the tipe
to where she doesn't worry about what every one else
is gonna think, despite of what it's cool or despite
what's hot at the moment, She's gonna do what's gonna
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make sense for her and what is going to be
successful for those around her, meaning family. It's not about
the business or the hype of the business. It's about, Okay,
what's smart for the moment and what's going to make
sense in the future. So that's what I wanted to
touch on. That's why I can go to first much into.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Me than you.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
But yes, we met in our early stages. I was
actually DJing and I still do periodically.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Tell you when I met you I was a radio DJ.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
You know, we met in three separate incidents, but one
of them took us back to where I ended up
on a rooftop with her because she had her foot
miril stuck in the room, you know, the shelf, please.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
So, so I was flipping houses in New Work, New
Jersey while I was a radio personality in New York City, right,
And I'm a scorpio. And what that kind of means
is if you back me into a corner, my stinger
comes up and sometimes it goes overwhel but not always
over overwhelmed in business, and so what happened was all
my contractors walked off the job. Wow, because I came
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off way hard. It's hard to be a woman working
in construction as well. You know, men don't always take
that well. And so when you kind of come frock.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Also in that part of the country, I'm just really chauvinistic.
Well I can change for a fact, I've lived in
New York, I've lived all this country. It gets really
chauvinistic in that northeast part of the country, especially at
Jersey area, it does.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So they walked off the job, and I later found
myself trying to tar a hole in the roof by myself,
right and I fell through the roof, and in that
moment I realized that I needed some help. I called
my mentor at the time, who referred him oh guy, okay,
And when he pulled up, I'm like, what are you
doing here? You're a DJ.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That's funny, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
That's the rocky rooftop.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Baby, right right right, right, right right right, I'm a.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Moving walk all over this rooftop baby R word. I
didn't know he was. I didn't know he was really
also a businessman and he was a contractor. And you
know that that DJing was a facet of what he did,
but it wasn't all that all of who he was.
And we kind of fell in love over that renovation.
You saved my life.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You save a shoe for show. You saved a shoe
for show, for sure. You got that.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
The interesting thing about and that I shouldn't even say interesting,
is that, you know, I tell everybody and when I
look at television now, television is so fun for a
person of color to me now, because I see us
on television on those stories, I see us some commercials,
inter racial commercials all it's all kinds of things that
(09:58):
really make you feel comfortable when you turn on the
TV and make you comfortable when you walk in the street. Okay,
I guess we're cool now in a way because you
can see me banking, me dating, me, having my Santa
Claus is black, all that good stuff. And so our
president was black yeahely so not vice president is black,
So you know, becomes a little normal. We know it's
(10:20):
not all normal. But then watching the show and seeing you, guys,
what do you think is the most magical thing about
you as a couple on TV talking to people, encouraging
them making life decisions and then showing them that this
is the best opportunity to move their life forward, sometimes
as a couple and sometimes as a family.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I think that for us, we have these conversations often,
right because as a black family, you know, on national
television where you're not just talking to an African American audience.
You know, questions come up even in advisory if you
know what I mean, You're you're an advisor as well.
With Sean, you know, an advisory it's you know, what
do we need to change? Anything to appeal to the masses.
(11:05):
And I think for us, the blessing in this entire
experience is no one has asked us to change a
thing Like I was on the Today Show in Dreadlocks.
You know what I mean. I there, Goddess lock, But
no Monday when I think about it, like Monday, I
shot a commercial, a commercial for the International Excuse me,
(11:28):
I'm sorry. I shot a commercial for the Intercontinental Exchange
for Ice stock market, and no one asked me to
tone down anything like no attitude, no blackness, no nothing
on our show. That's very much who we are and
our network HGTV loves it.
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Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah like we want, we want y'all just as you are.
I think that that is a blessing in it and
just this whole experience our show, the idea that you know,
we are black family successful. You know, we have beautiful children,
who are sweet, who are educated. We're together. We you know,
we're married. We don't have a broken home, which is
what people stereotypically expect. We don't fight. There's no drama
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or gossip out there about us and you know, cheating
and all this. Non people kind of expect that when
they see African American families on TV that there's going
to come a whole bag of tricks with it. And
the blessing in this experience, not only that we get
to do it together, is that there's no drama, and
so we're showing we can do it too. We are
doing it too. We've always been here. Thank god, you're
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just noticing it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Hey, Mike, I want to say this shed. She tries
to set you up a couple of times, you know,
when she comes in the room ask you just look baby,
how does this look?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Baby?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And then she references, oh, you trying to say something
about my wig. I said, oh, no, you trying to
set my boy up.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
No, Mike, come on, byke, try to set you up.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
So, but to feedback over that as well as and
answer your question with the magic part, I think the
magic in it is that we are really doing the
work right, don't step in and then say cut okay,
somebody else come and do this. Yes, you be a couple,
not just a black couple, a couple that is universally
appealing to the masses.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's positive.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
It's full of family, it's full of education, it's full of.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Information, right to where you can say.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Okay, I'm used to this. This sounds familiar, This looks familiar.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'm tuning in.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But I think what's what it's good too, is you
also see a little bit of our mess. You know,
you can tell me drive my husband crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
To see Egypt.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
What you ain't gonna do with my boy?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Mike?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
He my boy, now my boy. Like I said, I
just showed y'all two examples when you trying to set
them up. You know what I'm saying, you know, talking
about you, baby, I think I'm eating too much. Now,
I think I've eaten too much?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Baby?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
What you think?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Uh, I'm not answering that question on TV. No, you
ain't doing me like that, honey. You know, that's the
fun part of what I'm talking about, this relationship, because
that's what I do it my life, you know, because
but it's captured on film organically, and I'm gonna be
real about it.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It ain't even by race now, it's about.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Joining a couple. And that gives me information because I
watch these shows. These are the type of shows that
will be running where you're the car dealership, sitting there
waiting on your car, these type of call these type
of shows that are running when you're waiting in the
hospital lobby, these type of shows that are just running.
They're so comfortable because they're so informative. And that's the
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part of it that I love, because I love that
part where you know you. You walk them through the house,
you know you, and that's the part where you know
if people know what they're talking about when you because
people people really you know you're about to they about
to give their life to you. And in some of
these houses that you're walking in, you can't be so
forceful that you feel like this is it a yaut
(15:18):
But that walks through that whole part of creating that
organic relationship. Mike as a builder, because she's the face
of the she's the dreamer, but you have to put
it together and then she comes in and she a
change on you. Well, I didn't want it like that.
I mean, like, come on, Ben, don't do Mike like
that on film. Don't do it like that on film.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
But he laughs at all.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I loved I loved it.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I loved it when the floor was gold and the
other floor was brown. On the floor was just you go,
oh baby, where I got you? I got you? And
she walked with, Okay, I'll be back walking walking walking
into I'm gonna just tell you a couple of thing
that really messed him up.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
She on the construction site, y'all.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
She walking there with heels on, open.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Toes, open toes, open toes here because Mike said, remember Mike,
my day, I might be with my real estate clients.
I still need to look professional. They don't understand me
coming in and work though.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
In the car talking to talk to me, Mike, talk
to me.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Mike said, you step on the nail.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
You just step on the nail.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Shohn.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I thought, I thought me and you were a friend.
Now you're taking hitside.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Because you know the thing about it is that you
know in these shows, because you know, like I said,
I I love the fact that the potential of who
y'all are to me. I'm comfortable. I want to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I want to learn.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I want to say, can I get that? Can I
get them to do that to my house?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's what I know.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
It's special because I'm going like, because you know, I've
done a lot of remodeling. You know how people come
going so how they pulling that off and it looks
so beautiful. But again, like I was saying, Mike, you
are the builder. You know, she comes up.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
With these pricings.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well, we can only do it for one hundred thousand.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
We can all do it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And they don't know that the gas meters sitting over
there where the window gonna be, you know what I'm saying.
Don't know that though, you know, but she's gonna tell
everybody we're gonna put a window there. You got to
come in and go, hey baby, it's a gas metering there.
Oh oh, we'll take care, honey, I love you, smooches.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
She'll give them the division, your sir, and then I
will uh you know, softly bring it back down to reality,
make them feel comfortable, allow them to trust me, you know,
one with smart decisions, showing them how we can get
there if for some reason they can't afford how we
can get there doing for less, but by doing different options, right.
(17:57):
I think it's all about listening and letting them speak
and let him be heard, allowing them to let you
know exactly what they want, and then you coming in
and making it feel relatable.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
You know, Sean, what I love about this man and
why this works is because he lets me be me.
He knows that you're right. I'm a dreamer, I'm a visionary.
I'm going to show everything in its purest potential, and
he'll let me live that out right, and then he'll
humbly bring everybody back down to earth in everything that
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he does. He even I get carsick, you know, so
I have to drive, and that's when when anybody's driving.
Even if someone says a car with a driver for me,
I'm like, I don't know if I want I want
to drive because I get really carsick. You know, a
lot of man Raseean wouldn't be comfortable with their wife
behind the wheel, if you know what I mean. So
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on for seventeen and a half years, he'll sit in
the passenger seat and let me drive and be okay
with that, you know, And he's still the lead. He
still leaves our family.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Even though I got my foot on that second break.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely absolutely worried about that seven year itch.
You know what I'm saying, that seven year itch. You
know what I'm saying. But you know, the beauty of
our if we go through the episodes, you don't do
this show alone. You have three wonderful children. They're girls,
They're a part of the show. Andre's part of the show.
Like say, y'all was part of the show. Talk about
the overall casting and the need to organically, you know,
(19:32):
introduce your family. And like I said, I've almost told
the first two episodes, so more people are going to
be introduced. What was the whole theory behind the introduction?
Are you trying to just let everybody know this is us?
Or what was the whole background behind that whole process.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I think people had to kind of get to know
us first, right, who Egypt is, who Mike is, who
we are as a couple, who we are as a
family with our children. But really for our businesses to work,
we could never do alone. We got a whole army
behind us, and we want people to embrace them as well,
normally with normalcy. So you know, we kind of got
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to ease him in. Let you, let you learn everybody.
So Andre is a designer friend of mine. He's super talented.
He's done some of the biggest design houses in Atlanta
and all over the country. But but really, when everything's
off and we let our hair down, he's one of
my best friends. So he's the person that I call
if I'm like, I can't figure out this room. I
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need some input, right And when I'm I'm doing my
my child's room, it's like I want, I need second eyes.
But Mike can't stand it.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Whenever my phone is dinging from my bank notifications.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Andre has very high elite taste. You know, I do
everything kind of on a budget on my own. But
when he comes in, the price triples. So Mike's I
love you, but you gotta go bro.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Absolutely, but let's let's talk about the price and all that,
because you know this is we're not telling about this series.
But that's that's that's what the experience comes in. That's
when to walk into a property and give an estimate
of what it's going to take to get there. And Mike,
I'm gonna go to you as a builder, as a
person who really is the nuts and boats of renovation.
How does that process work for you that you trust
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your natural instincts or do you have a roller dex?
Did you just go you fall back on to be
able to make sure that you hit that number.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, well a lot of relationships for one, with subs,
with a lot of big box stores, with a lot
of friends, you know, So those relationships, I keep those
in mind as I'm going through properties. But in this
day and age where wood and materials are fluctuating in
price and sometimes overpriced, I have to get creative, you know,
(21:46):
where we go to refurbished properties or refurbished warehouses and
use materials or I use things that I may have
in my warehouse you know. Yeah, we actually did that
on so many episodes, where we reuse things, repurpose them right.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And make them look updated. You know.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
It's not always about let's let's demolish this and make
a great scene. It's about let's do the smart decisions
that's going to make sense so we can hit that target.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, but we're shot. Sometimes we got to give the
bad news, you know, and the bad news is this
is your budget, but we just can't do it for
that budget because the reality is stuffs out to stop.
You know, it may costs forty percent more than what
it would have cost last year or six six months ago.
That's when I let him give the bad news.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
So material not really have materials went up, but the
price of laborers went up as well. Right, So people
are extremely shocked by pricing. So some of some of
my clients that booked our company, they are now calling
and getting sideswiped. You know, Sotory at.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
This moment, Well, we're talking to Egypt Shirod she's the queen,
and Mike Jackson he's the king, and you're married to
real estate is an exciting show. It's a show. The
reason I say it's exciting because they're refreshing, they're entertaining.
I want to invite them into my home. You will
invite them into your home. You know, No, Egypt Hurrah,
(23:08):
she is the experts, she's the queen. I've already respect
her my long This is just not being based on
my long time relationship. When I mentioned her name in
my house, my wife knew immediately who she was, and
that was to be a testament that my wife respects
you and wants to be excited about this. Venture for
you guys. More importantly, I just see a couple of
(23:29):
stars of TV that's gonna like take over the game.
And I'm gonna tell you something. I'm humble when I
say that because I'm blessed that I can say that.
I couldn't say this five years ago. That's how times
have changed. You guys are landing at the right time
on TV. It's nothing on that show that I was
not disappointed in. I was it was funny, it was organic,
(23:50):
it was natural. I felt like it was a couple
just happens to have a camera following them around on
a on a rebuild. That's all I saw.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
That means a lot coming from Seawan. We know you
know talent. We know that you you know you've helped
mold talent as well. And I actually remember a conversation.
I don't know if you remember it, but I'm gonna
take you down memory lane just a little bit before
we go. I was working at WBLS in New York
City and I said with Sean, I got to keep
this on the down low, but I'm thinking about making
(24:22):
the move to Atlanta, right and I know that you're
in Atlanta. What do you think is that a good
move for me. And you said, come on, come over
here to my office, which by the way, happened to
be like a little production clot at that moment, that moment,
and you sat me down and you said, listen, this
is the deal. Atlanta is for big dogs. Everybody's a
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star in Atlanta. Everybody's got something going on in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
You got some.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Incredible young black entrepreneurs there. And so if you're coming Atlanta,
you got to have your stuff together. So you get
your game plan first and then you work you plan.
I don't know if you if you remember this conversation,
but it sticks out to me because moving here from
New York after cementing myself as a radio personality there
for many years, was a big, bold move and it
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was you know, it took a lot of you know,
it took a lot of guts, and you know, for
us to just say we're gonna take a chance and
bet on ourselves and rebuild in an entirely different city
where we didn't know anybody, and it was Egypt.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And I had several great conversations because you know, she
followed us Steve Harvey, now, you know, and so we
was always talking about radies. I always talked about women,
always talking about but one thing I did like about
us she always had multiple streams of income. Yeah, see
right there, she was my friend because that's important in
today's society to be able to wake up and realize
(25:43):
you have options. And when I sat down, I remember
that conversation because it's funny Egypt. I get that a
lot from people said, well S, you remember when you
told me this, And I have an honest side of
me that I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Look, you need to stay up here.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
But I knew that she had a sense of a
gift to be able to do more. But if you
go down there, know what you're walking into because it's
going to happen. And guess what, everything's time right. It
is the new Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
You know, the.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Pricing is right. Y'all have a great show. I'm comfortable now.
I just got to get y'all come by my house
and remodel my backroing over there, so we don't talk
about that all fan, you know, just come there. I'm
just making sure y'all do Hey, I'm just making sure
you don't end zoom. You know, you know, you know
you're in these calls and then you go bye bye.
I said, oh oh, they say, ain't gonna give me
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his numble?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
You know what I'm saying, No, no, no, no, but again.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Watch this show Married to Real Estate Stars of Egypt,
Charad my Man, Mike Jackson.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
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Speaker 3 (27:06):
And always remember to lead with your gifts
If you're about to make a change in your life
and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can
have because for the first time in your life, you'll
make a new decision that's going to be best for
you and not what somebody told you to do. And
that's when all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making
Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host with Shan McDonald. Our theme
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is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams.
I recognize that we all have different definitions of success.
For you and maybe the size of your HM. It's
time to stop reading other people's success stories to start
living your own keep winning. My guest, longtime friend, powerhouse
(00:43):
and real estate broker and designer Egypt Taraud and a husband.
He's newby life, like I've stated, builder Mike Jackson. They're
based in Atlanta. If you can be a dreamer and
you want to dream about it your home or your fantasy,
your place that you want to rest your head and
your family, think about it. Egypt will design it and
Mike will build it. That's a slogan, not buying.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's theirs.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
They know plenty by juggling the booming property business, pleasing clients,
managing their home and raising three daughters. And they are
beautiful dollars, so precious, especially the young one when he
had when you have this one scene when he walking
around with a pamp on.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
His head, You're gonna love him.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
They make it look effortless and fun in an HGTV
series Marriage to Real Estate. You can also catch Egypt
and Mike's guest judges in the last season of HGTV's
mega hit home renovation competition series Rock the Block, where
you see four competing teams. We're looking at the renovation.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
King and Queen King and Queen of AHG TV. We
claim and thank you for Sean. We appreciate that love.
And you are absolutely right. I've been around you and
I we know each other quite well.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Absolutely, but it's a good but you know something each
it's a good been around because all the time I've
always seen you. First of all, your personality has been positive.
And one thing I've loved about her, Mike, is that
you know opportunities. She's not She's fearless because that's what
a lot of people do. Because met her in radio
and so when some people start saying I want to
(02:07):
do something else. They can get so locked and comfortable,
they don't do it, and so and so, so many
different levels and so and that was that was that
was urban radio that she was in, Okay, and then
she can't Now she's coming into another area of I
want to say, just there's not we don't see many
black people, won't see so many people of color like
(02:28):
you too. That's why it's so refreshing to see that.
And I like to believe this is something we're going
to see on the regular basis. But and seeing the
first two episodes of your new series, Marriage to Real Estate,
I found a family environment that I was engaged with.
But more importantly, this is what y'all do. I never
questioned that you guys who are prop I never caught
(02:50):
you know what I'm saying that that's what can happen. You know,
they get a cute couple like you guys, you got
the cute little children. You know, they say, y'all be
a great TV show. It's no doubt in my mind
this is what y'all do. But each I have to
go back to this because you know, this is I
call this my masterclass series. Because you're talking about people
(03:10):
in a market. Now, we all know it's hard to
get a home out that nowadays. Okay, it's sometimes thirty
people waiting on the same building and trying to call
their home. How did y'all how did y'all? How were
y'all able to do a series and this type of
real estate boom where homes are scarce and people is
trying to make a decision on different properties while you're
(03:30):
doing the show.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So, Ri Sean, you know, I'm a real estate broker.
It's what I've done for, you know, twenty years. And
that also means that I've lived through and strived through
and grew through every real estate environment. You know, when
the bubble burst and you know, people were losing their
houses and needed to be saved with short you know,
from foreclosures with short sales. I coached them through it
(03:54):
and help clients through that. Now we're in an environment
where first time home buyers are being edged how completely.
Even experienced home buyers are like one of thirty different
offers and listenings are going for fifty sixty seventy thousand
over ass in price. I mean, it's crazy out here
right now, but I think that this is what I've
been built for. If that makes sense, all these years
(04:17):
of working through living, through existing, through buying, through renovating,
through in our own lives has prepared us for this
moment where we can help our clients through and there.
If I told you the hows and would, I would
be giving away all my tricks of the trade when
I go up against other offers. So I won't go there.
But what I will say is stay encouraged. And if
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you're in the market to buy a home, make sure
all real estate agents were not created equal. They were not.
You take a class, you get a license if you
pass the test. But what you want is a seasoned,
experience shown and proven real estate professional who can coach
you and come up with a strategy to help you,
you know, get successfully to the line.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Great now, Mike, you know when I google Egypt, you know,
a lot of things pop up. Pictures, photos, she's posing
this way, posing this way, television show, television show. You know,
it's just a background into entertainment. You this business or
I just see a reference to a business. Give us
a little background on your journey into a home building,
renovations and in this market, and so we can get
(05:23):
assist your culture and your expertise.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Definitely. Definitely.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
So I've been in construction, I want to say since
I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I started with my uncle and my grandfather. They had
a construction company, would and they would always bring me
along future forward. I started with the local twenty eight
trade in New York City where I was a journeysman
for sheet metalwork, right, and then I transitioned into owning
my own company, which is Jackson Draper Renovations, where we
(05:53):
pretty much do it all carpentry, plumbing, electricity, you know,
exterior work, all of the above. It's myself and my uncle,
my partner, which is you'll see him on the show
as well.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
His name is Mark.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And this is what I do. You know, my wife
and I were teaming up what you're seeing on the
show where we're trying to merge the two businesses under
one umbrella, you know, bring a real estate construction design.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, one design house, one design house. But you gotta
you're gonna tell her. I don't think he knows the
full story that that's how we met.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It is how we met.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yes, thank you, thank you kept his brother out like
you do on the show. Anyway, he knew He's knew.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
That.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It's not that I was trying not to take up
too much of the time.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I said, this is a masterclass we're teaching. We're educating
people about this beautiful couple.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Here's what was on my mind is why I didn't
want to talk to much about me, because I wanted
to piggyback off of the discussion you brought up in
the beginning. As far as we're not being feelless, she's
beyond that feelings. She's also selfless. Yes, she's the tipe
to where she doesn't worry about what every one else
is gonna think, despite of what it's cool or despite
what's hot at the moment, She's gonna do what's gonna
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make sense for her and what is going to be
successful for those around her, meaning family. It's not about
the business or the hype of the business. It's about, Okay,
what's smart for the moment and what's going to make
sense in the future. So that's what I wanted to
touch on. That's why I can go to first much into.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Me than you.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
But yes, we met in our early stages. I was
actually DJing and I still do periodically.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Tell you when I met you I was a radio DJ.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
You know, we met in three separate incidents, but one
of them took us back to where I ended up
on a rooftop with her because she had her foot
miril stuck in the room, you know, the shelf, please.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Sean.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
So, so I was flipping houses in New Work, New
Jersey while I was a radio personality in New York City, right,
And I'm a scorpio. And what that kind of means
is if you back me into a corner, my stinger
comes up and sometimes it goes overwhel but not always
over overwhelmed in business, and so what happened was all
my contractors walked off the job. Wow, because I came
(08:20):
off way hard. It's hard to be a woman working
in construction as well. You know, men don't always take
that well. And so when you kind of come frock.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Also in that part of the country, I'm just really chauvinistic.
Well I can change for a fact, I've lived in
New York, I've lived all this country. It gets really
chauvinistic in that northeast part of the country, especially at
Jersey area, it does.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So they walked off the job, and I later found
myself trying to tar a hole in the roof by myself,
right and I fell through the roof, and in that
moment I realized that I needed some help. I called
my mentor at the time, who referred him oh guy, okay,
And when he pulled up, I'm like, what are you
doing here? You're a DJ.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That's funny, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
That's the rocky rooftop.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Baby, right right right, right, right right right, I'm a.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Moving walk all over this rooftop baby R word. I
didn't know he was. I didn't know he was really
also a businessman and he was a contractor. And you
know that that DJing was a facet of what he did,
but it wasn't all that all of who he was.
And we kind of fell in love over that renovation.
You saved my life.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You save a shoe for show. You saved a shoe
for show, for sure. You got that.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
The interesting thing about and that I shouldn't even say interesting,
is that, you know, I tell everybody and when I
look at television now, television is so fun for a
person of color to me now, because I see us
on television on those stories, I see us some commercials,
inter racial commercials all it's all kinds of things that
(09:58):
really make you feel comfortable when you turn on the
TV and make you comfortable when you walk in the street. Okay,
I guess we're cool now in a way because you
can see me banking, me dating, me, having my Santa
Claus is black, all that good stuff. And so our
president was black yeahely so not vice president is black,
So you know, becomes a little normal. We know it's
(10:20):
not all normal. But then watching the show and seeing you, guys,
what do you think is the most magical thing about
you as a couple on TV talking to people, encouraging
them making life decisions and then showing them that this
is the best opportunity to move their life forward, sometimes
as a couple and sometimes as a family.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I think that for us, we have these conversations often,
right because as a black family, you know, on national
television where you're not just talking to an African American audience.
You know, questions come up even in advisory if you
know what I mean, You're you're an advisor as well.
With Sean, you know, an advisory it's you know, what
do we need to change? Anything to appeal to the masses.
(11:05):
And I think for us, the blessing in this entire
experience is no one has asked us to change a
thing Like I was on the Today Show in Dreadlocks.
You know what I mean. I there, Goddess lock, But
no Monday when I think about it, like Monday, I
shot a commercial, a commercial for the International Excuse me,
(11:28):
I'm sorry. I shot a commercial for the Intercontinental Exchange
for Ice stock market, and no one asked me to
tone down anything like no attitude, no blackness, no nothing
on our show. That's very much who we are and
our network HGTV loves it.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
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Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah like we want, we want y'all just as you are.
I think that that is a blessing in it and
just this whole experience our show, the idea that you know,
we are black family successful. You know, we have beautiful children,
who are sweet, who are educated. We're together. We you know,
we're married. We don't have a broken home, which is
what people stereotypically expect. We don't fight. There's no drama
(12:37):
or gossip out there about us and you know, cheating
and all this. Non people kind of expect that when
they see African American families on TV that there's going
to come a whole bag of tricks with it. And
the blessing in this experience, not only that we get
to do it together, is that there's no drama, and
so we're showing we can do it too. We are
doing it too. We've always been here. Thank god, you're
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just noticing it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Hey, Mike, I want to say this shed. She tries
to set you up a couple of times, you know,
when she comes in the room ask you just look baby,
how does this look?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Baby?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And then she references, oh, you trying to say something
about my wig. I said, oh, no, you trying to
set my boy up.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
No, Mike, come on, byke, try to set you up.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
So, but to feedback over that as well as and
answer your question with the magic part, I think the
magic in it is that we are really doing the
work right, don't step in and then say cut okay,
somebody else come and do this. Yes, you be a couple,
not just a black couple, a couple that is universally
appealing to the masses.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's positive.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
It's full of family, it's full of education, it's full of.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Information, right to where you can say.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Okay, I'm used to this. This sounds familiar, This looks familiar.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'm tuning in.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But I think what's what it's good too, is you
also see a little bit of our mess. You know,
you can tell me drive my husband crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
To see Egypt.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
What you ain't gonna do with my boy?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Mike?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
He my boy, now my boy. Like I said, I
just showed y'all two examples when you trying to set
them up. You know what I'm saying, you know, talking
about you, baby, I think I'm eating too much. Now,
I think I've eaten too much?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Baby?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
What you think?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Uh, I'm not answering that question on TV. No, you
ain't doing me like that, honey. You know, that's the
fun part of what I'm talking about, this relationship, because
that's what I do it my life, you know, because
but it's captured on film organically, and I'm gonna be
real about it.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It ain't even by race now, it's about.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Joining a couple. And that gives me information because I
watch these shows. These are the type of shows that
will be running where you're the car dealership, sitting there
waiting on your car, these type of call these type
of shows that are running when you're waiting in the
hospital lobby, these type of shows that are just running.
They're so comfortable because they're so informative. And that's the
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part of it that I love, because I love that
part where you know you. You walk them through the house,
you know you, and that's the part where you know
if people know what they're talking about when you because
people people really you know you're about to they about
to give their life to you. And in some of
these houses that you're walking in, you can't be so
forceful that you feel like this is it a yaut
(15:18):
But that walks through that whole part of creating that
organic relationship. Mike as a builder, because she's the face
of the she's the dreamer, but you have to put
it together and then she comes in and she a
change on you. Well, I didn't want it like that.
I mean, like, come on, Ben, don't do Mike like
that on film. Don't do it like that on film.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
But he laughs at all.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I loved I loved it.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I loved it when the floor was gold and the
other floor was brown. On the floor was just you go,
oh baby, where I got you? I got you? And
she walked with, Okay, I'll be back walking walking walking
into I'm gonna just tell you a couple of thing
that really messed him up.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
She on the construction site, y'all.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
She walking there with heels on, open.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Toes, open toes, open toes here because Mike said, remember Mike,
my day, I might be with my real estate clients.
I still need to look professional. They don't understand me
coming in and work though.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
In the car talking to talk to me, Mike, talk
to me.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Mike said, you step on the nail.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
You just step on the nail.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Shohn.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I thought, I thought me and you were a friend.
Now you're taking hitside.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Because you know the thing about it is that you
know in these shows, because you know, like I said,
I I love the fact that the potential of who
y'all are to me. I'm comfortable. I want to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I want to learn.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I want to say, can I get that? Can I
get them to do that to my house?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's what I know.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
It's special because I'm going like, because you know, I've
done a lot of remodeling. You know how people come
going so how they pulling that off and it looks
so beautiful. But again, like I was saying, Mike, you
are the builder. You know, she comes up.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
With these pricings.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well, we can only do it for one hundred thousand.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
We can all do it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And they don't know that the gas meters sitting over
there where the window gonna be, you know what I'm saying.
Don't know that though, you know, but she's gonna tell
everybody we're gonna put a window there. You got to
come in and go, hey baby, it's a gas metering there.
Oh oh, we'll take care, honey, I love you, smooches.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
She'll give them the division, your sir, and then I
will uh you know, softly bring it back down to reality,
make them feel comfortable, allow them to trust me, you know,
one with smart decisions, showing them how we can get
there if for some reason they can't afford how we
can get there doing for less, but by doing different options, right.
(17:57):
I think it's all about listening and letting them speak
and let him be heard, allowing them to let you
know exactly what they want, and then you coming in
and making it feel relatable.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
You know, Sean, what I love about this man and
why this works is because he lets me be me.
He knows that you're right. I'm a dreamer, I'm a visionary.
I'm going to show everything in its purest potential, and
he'll let me live that out right, and then he'll
humbly bring everybody back down to earth in everything that
(18:32):
he does. He even I get carsick, you know, so
I have to drive, and that's when when anybody's driving.
Even if someone says a car with a driver for me,
I'm like, I don't know if I want I want
to drive because I get really carsick. You know, a
lot of man Raseean wouldn't be comfortable with their wife
behind the wheel, if you know what I mean. So
(18:55):
on for seventeen and a half years, he'll sit in
the passenger seat and let me drive and be okay
with that, you know, And he's still the lead. He
still leaves our family.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Even though I got my foot on that second break.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely absolutely worried about that seven year itch.
You know what I'm saying, that seven year itch. You
know what I'm saying. But you know, the beauty of
our if we go through the episodes, you don't do
this show alone. You have three wonderful children. They're girls,
They're a part of the show. Andre's part of the show.
Like say, y'all was part of the show. Talk about
the overall casting and the need to organically, you know,
(19:32):
introduce your family. And like I said, I've almost told
the first two episodes, so more people are going to
be introduced. What was the whole theory behind the introduction?
Are you trying to just let everybody know this is us?
Or what was the whole background behind that whole process.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I think people had to kind of get to know
us first, right, who Egypt is, who Mike is, who
we are as a couple, who we are as a
family with our children. But really for our businesses to work,
we could never do alone. We got a whole army
behind us, and we want people to embrace them as well,
normally with normalcy. So you know, we kind of got
(20:08):
to ease him in. Let you, let you learn everybody.
So Andre is a designer friend of mine. He's super talented.
He's done some of the biggest design houses in Atlanta
and all over the country. But but really, when everything's
off and we let our hair down, he's one of
my best friends. So he's the person that I call
if I'm like, I can't figure out this room. I
(20:29):
need some input, right And when I'm I'm doing my
my child's room, it's like I want, I need second eyes.
But Mike can't stand it.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Whenever my phone is dinging from my bank notifications.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Andre has very high elite taste. You know, I do
everything kind of on a budget on my own. But
when he comes in, the price triples. So Mike's I
love you, but you gotta go bro.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Absolutely, but let's let's talk about the price and all that,
because you know this is we're not telling about this series.
But that's that's that's what the experience comes in. That's
when to walk into a property and give an estimate
of what it's going to take to get there. And Mike,
I'm gonna go to you as a builder, as a
person who really is the nuts and boats of renovation.
How does that process work for you that you trust
(21:16):
your natural instincts or do you have a roller dex?
Did you just go you fall back on to be
able to make sure that you hit that number.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, well a lot of relationships for one, with subs,
with a lot of big box stores, with a lot
of friends, you know, So those relationships, I keep those
in mind as I'm going through properties. But in this
day and age where wood and materials are fluctuating in
price and sometimes overpriced, I have to get creative, you know,
(21:46):
where we go to refurbished properties or refurbished warehouses and
use materials or I use things that I may have
in my warehouse you know. Yeah, we actually did that
on so many episodes, where we reuse things, repurpose them right.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And make them look updated. You know.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
It's not always about let's let's demolish this and make
a great scene. It's about let's do the smart decisions
that's going to make sense so we can hit that target.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, but we're shot. Sometimes we got to give the
bad news, you know, and the bad news is this
is your budget, but we just can't do it for
that budget because the reality is stuffs out to stop.
You know, it may costs forty percent more than what
it would have cost last year or six six months ago.
That's when I let him give the bad news.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
So material not really have materials went up, but the
price of laborers went up as well. Right, So people
are extremely shocked by pricing. So some of some of
my clients that booked our company, they are now calling
and getting sideswiped. You know, Sotory at.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
This moment, Well, we're talking to Egypt Shirod she's the queen,
and Mike Jackson he's the king, and you're married to
real estate is an exciting show. It's a show. The
reason I say it's exciting because they're refreshing, they're entertaining.
I want to invite them into my home. You will
invite them into your home. You know, No, Egypt Hurrah,
(23:08):
she is the experts, she's the queen. I've already respect
her my long This is just not being based on
my long time relationship. When I mentioned her name in
my house, my wife knew immediately who she was, and
that was to be a testament that my wife respects
you and wants to be excited about this. Venture for
you guys. More importantly, I just see a couple of
(23:29):
stars of TV that's gonna like take over the game.
And I'm gonna tell you something. I'm humble when I
say that because I'm blessed that I can say that.
I couldn't say this five years ago. That's how times
have changed. You guys are landing at the right time
on TV. It's nothing on that show that I was
not disappointed in. I was it was funny, it was organic,
(23:50):
it was natural. I felt like it was a couple
just happens to have a camera following them around on
a on a rebuild. That's all I saw.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
That means a lot coming from Seawan. We know you
know talent. We know that you you know you've helped
mold talent as well. And I actually remember a conversation.
I don't know if you remember it, but I'm gonna
take you down memory lane just a little bit before
we go. I was working at WBLS in New York
City and I said with Sean, I got to keep
this on the down low, but I'm thinking about making
(24:22):
the move to Atlanta, right and I know that you're
in Atlanta. What do you think is that a good
move for me. And you said, come on, come over
here to my office, which by the way, happened to
be like a little production clot at that moment, that moment,
and you sat me down and you said, listen, this
is the deal. Atlanta is for big dogs. Everybody's a
(24:43):
star in Atlanta. Everybody's got something going on in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
You got some.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Incredible young black entrepreneurs there. And so if you're coming Atlanta,
you got to have your stuff together. So you get
your game plan first and then you work you plan.
I don't know if you if you remember this conversation,
but it sticks out to me because moving here from
New York after cementing myself as a radio personality there
for many years, was a big, bold move and it
(25:08):
was you know, it took a lot of you know,
it took a lot of guts, and you know, for
us to just say we're gonna take a chance and
bet on ourselves and rebuild in an entirely different city
where we didn't know anybody, and it was Egypt.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And I had several great conversations because you know, she
followed us Steve Harvey, now, you know, and so we
was always talking about radies. I always talked about women,
always talking about but one thing I did like about
us she always had multiple streams of income. Yeah, see
right there, she was my friend because that's important in
today's society to be able to wake up and realize
(25:43):
you have options. And when I sat down, I remember
that conversation because it's funny Egypt. I get that a
lot from people said, well S, you remember when you
told me this, And I have an honest side of
me that I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Look, you need to stay up here.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
But I knew that she had a sense of a
gift to be able to do more. But if you
go down there, know what you're walking into because it's
going to happen. And guess what, everything's time right. It
is the new Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
You know, the.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Pricing is right. Y'all have a great show. I'm comfortable now.
I just got to get y'all come by my house
and remodel my backroing over there, so we don't talk
about that all fan, you know, just come there. I'm
just making sure y'all do Hey, I'm just making sure
you don't end zoom. You know, you know, you know
you're in these calls and then you go bye bye.
I said, oh oh, they say, ain't gonna give me
(26:32):
his numble?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
You know what I'm saying, No, no, no, no, but again.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Watch this show Married to Real Estate Stars of Egypt,
Charad my Man, Mike Jackson.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Thank you for joining us for this edition of Money
Making Conversations Master Class. Money Making Conversations Master Class with
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Speaker 3 (27:06):
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