Mock Draft with Nate Tice!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to NFL Daily where it's officially mock season. I'm
Greg Rosenthal here and the Chris Westling podcast studio, joined
by my friend Nate Tice of Football three oh one
at Yahoo Sports and their big board over there and
the mock drafts over there, and we got you on
the hoof doing a mock draft today. Welcome Nate.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh no, I love it. They're great exercises, they really are.
It's nice practice for the draft because then you start
realizing why things break a certain way. So yeah, as
the mock turtlenecks go away, the mock drafts come out.
That's kind of just what's going on there.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
You go. It's right. It's the first mock draft in
NFL Daily history. It might be the last one of
this draft season. I don't know if we'll do another.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Before smash in the bottle on it.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Maybe maybe the last week a couple of days before
the draft will do We'll try to. We'll drop one more.
But uh, but the process of going through it what
was interesting, Like I don't have to know one hundred
plus players like like you do. You're in draft season,
so I kind of feel for you. It's it's another time.
You know, it's a it's a crazy time of year

(01:12):
for you.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, I relate. You know, I don't get as fully
deep as you know your guy DJ and probably and
Dane Brugler, but I'm probably like a half step below that.
But I'm getting up on that kind of Tom Hanks
and castaway look like. That's where I'm getting there. I'm
getting there. But that's how you know it's April. That's
how you really know it's draft seas.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
You wear it well. So as as a guest, we're
going to go back and forth. Yeah, it's natural on
you a real football guy. By the way, you had
to I'll mention it when we talk offensive lineman. But
love that episode you did with your dad Mike. That
was especially cool. But we're going to keep it simple.
We're gonna go back and forth. I've given you the
number one overall pick, which means you have all the

(01:55):
odd numbers. There's no trades involved, We're we're not doing
anything like that. That that seems it just seems silly.
So let's let's just start with the number one overall pick.
You have the Titans and how I viewed it, and
I know this is a little late to tell you this.
It was just like what you think they should do?
We did. I don't have information on what they're gonna do,

(02:15):
not really, there's a couple of little things floating out there.
But I know more like, uh, if Nate Tice was
in the front office like he was back in the day, Uh,
you know, what would you want to do? So you
up the Titans, You're you're up first, just.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Five tiers higher than what I was. All right, so
but then we go No. I I like doing mocks
that way anyways, because I also like thinking of the
exercise of like where they where teams are at and
kind of just get into their mindset like kind of
also the most fun thing about analyzing sports just I
told you so, you know you kind of get into
get into that. Sorry, you know, it's like I used

(02:50):
to gamble. You know, I can't now because I'm a
fellow employee with the NFL network. But it's just you know, yeah,
but you know it's not about like the money it was.
It's just about being right. And I think that's just
with a lot of the stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, but the website of that is you just hate
being so wrong, Like I couldn't accept when I was wrong.
When I used to bet before I came here that
it would just bother you and you understood the math
of it all. That being right six out of ten
times is great, but it's still pained to you when
you really thought you were going to get one and
you didn't.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
So I just especially when you really got a solid one. Yeah, no,
it's been brutal for So that's the ironies. I live
in Vegas and don't tamble, but it's just the It's
as I've learned, though, is when you're sports mean, it's
okay to be wrong sometimes. But anyways, long story short,
number one pick Titans going with Cam Woord quarterback. I

(03:41):
just I like the player a lot. I have really
started just to start off, and I've kind of used
this line a few times. Is this draft is really
starting to feel like the twenty nineteen draft where Kyler
went first, where it's like, yeah, this guy's the one
one guy, Like yeah, yeah, when it's all said and done,
like yeah, he's flawed, but I really like him and
he's a good player and a good process. I really
like Ward. But then also other quarterbacks might be getting

(04:02):
bumped up that uh like we look back out and
squint our.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Eyes, right, it'll it'll be interesting to see where or
if they go in this mock, since it's it's whatever
we wanted to. Uh. I love that we talked about
Kim Ward at length earlier in the week with John Ledyard,
And You're right. The longer the process went, the more
I was flummixed why he wasn't talked about like a
great quarterback prospect in the first place, especially for a

(04:28):
team like the Titans that that needs one desperately, and
there's such a big fall off from him down that
it just seems obvious, even even if there weren't Steve
McNair comps, and they're kind of are I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Was trying to avoid it, but that's that's kind There's
a lot I see.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I see far too. I see far too. Like I mean, yeah, yeah,
just the way just better better like scrambler than he
is runner, or just like better better NFL athlete than
he is just pure athlete, and that that's the star
in the taking the chances.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
And I was like saying, like, trait wise, he like
wins with balance and strength as opposed to speed, which
is like actually matters in the NFL because you can't
run away from a lot of people in the NFL,
you know, so it's uh, it's but and then also throwing, Yeah,
he looks the throw rather than run, which I think
is you know, creates a longer career and more productive career.
I've really like, I like word a lot. He's I

(05:25):
wrote him up and just like have really as I
studied them more, I was like, man, I kind of
underrated you like even like this creativity and stuff. His
creativity and stuff is really really fun to watch, Like
not just the outs outside of the pocket, but inside
the pocket too, Like it's just you know, changing arm
angles and stuff is just really exceptional.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's the number one thing for me too, is like, Okay,
maybe kN Kyler is a good good comp in terms
of where does this guy's career go, Like he's adding
a ton of value for me. That's what I care about,
is like, am I gonna enjoy watching him every Sunday?
And I feel it is a big fat yes on
cam Ward and who I'm going to take or two
overall for the Cleveland Browns. This is this is a

(06:03):
difficult one. I didn't consider quarterback, but I'm gonna take
Travis Hunter. Ultimately, I just feel like you're if you're
making the choice. And it's these drafts where that there's
special players that everyone recognizes, like Jamar Chase and then suddenly,

(06:24):
like you know, he falls down just a couple picks
for whatever reason, or even special guys at a certain
position like Kyle Hamilton falls down in certain ways at
certain positions, like for whatever reason. It's like Travis Hunter
to me, is just the guy that's just the most
special player easily in this draft, for obvious reasons that
we've talked about and that you've talked about. And so

(06:46):
I'm just gonna take them because I don't want to
pass on this special player. And I know they have
good cornerbacks there. It's like, hey, I think they're gonna
need a cornerback at some point. They're not that good there,
and he could absolutely play a lot of wide receiver
there they absolutely need. I don't even care. I'm not
answering that question for them. I just want it all.
I want Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
He's just a special type of player, and just get
him on your roster and just like okay, fun and
we just like that's all we are you're doing right now.
I think they shouldn't chase quarterback here at all, considering
who's out there and stuff. So like I it's hunted
to me or a dual car.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Right. It was just making the choice and I didn't
feel like I could do the wrong one. But it's
like I've seen a little bit. It's like, well they
have Greg Newsom and Martin Emerson. Man, if you're not
taking Travis Hunter because you have Greg Newsom and Martin
Emerson and Denzil Warden like the eighth year risker, what
have you been talking about? So I'm taking Travis Hunter.
I just like him a little more just because he
could just be just next level special, something we've never

(07:43):
seen before as a player, and so I want to
take that. So you're up with the giants.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Now, Oh god, man, this is the sexual.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I mean, this can't be a surprise if you're already saying,
oh god at number two, at number three, you know,
there's only so many routes that I know.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
But I think it's because I've gotten lazy and not.
But I think the last few uh, I've gotten to
be able to kind of like rote memorization where a
lot of people go Brown's Aduill Carter and then Giants
go Travis Hunter and it's just like, all right, what's
number four Patriots? Oh this is a fun one, right.
I think I just even with you know, Thibodeau there,

(08:17):
you know, they splash big money on Brian Burns, I
think they just still go up dual Carter, and I
think they figure out the quarterback stuff later, especially with
Travis Hunter. Now they're no longer there. They did, you know,
sign a debo, and you know that's like interesting. Deontay
Banks had a down year last year. Maybe he steps
back like Hunter would have been a lot of fun here.
But I'm gonna go I'm gonna duel Carter, who I

(08:40):
think is a very good prospect. Do not agree with
the G word usually ever, but with Carter, I think
is a very good one. Hadnth had some strength, I
compared him to kg B former Packer's Edge Wow, remember, yeah,
of course, kind of yeah, very you know Bendy Fast
agreed against the run, you know, and then could get

(09:00):
overwhelmed a little bit by more stronger tackles, which is
why I don't consider him like that elite to lead
elite prospect like I do Travis Hunder at corner and
a little bit at receiver, but I think a dual
Carr is a very good prospect and just skim him
on this roster. I don't know. I think I'm still
optimistic on the Giants defense, especially with the additions they
had this offseason, so get more talent.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
I can't say I was like grinding k KGB tape
back in the day in two thousand. I was in
college at the time. Actually probably the years I was
least connected to the NFL, just because social life.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
You know, it was like, right, my introduction was during
that time.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
But you never would have been able to tell me that,
you know, twenty plus years later he would be known
better as Akbar's brother. So that that's KGB. Now. I
like that pick too. You just got to take You
got to take the best player quickly. Do you like
him better than Aidon Hutchinson coming out of college Abdull Carter?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I do, But I like Hutchinson. I thought he
got kind of knocked. There's actually a couple of guys
that compare, like even mikel will with Trayvon Walker, Like
I like Williams better than Walker. Walker went number one overall. Right, so,
but you know, Walker tested like a you know, top
nine nine point nine percent tyle athlete. Michael's more of
a very good one. But you know that's another discussion.

(10:15):
Once we talked about mikel I guess.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
All right, I know you'll probably be taking him from
the sound of it, than me. I'm going to take
Jalen Walker number four overall. This is the scenario I
would want, least for the Patriots at number four overall.
Will Campbell's pretty tempting that you would just give it
a shot and you would have a really good guard

(10:37):
if it doesn't work out at left tackle. And yet,
I guess when I'm this high in the draft, I
do want to take a swing. I do think of
the defensive players other than Carter and maybe one other
guy we'll talk about, but just to be a real
difference maker for a team that is going to have
a defensive vision. Even though you can say that there's

(11:01):
not as big a need because they've spent so much
on defense, well there's still a huge need, Like who
are their great edge players. They have a need for everything,
and I do think in a in a flexible defense,
you just take the guy that you think I think
his floor is maybe higher than people giving credit for
as just a good edge rusher type of guy, and
that you want to take a guy with a high

(11:21):
ceiling if you're picking fourth overall. So in this scenario
where you can't trade down or anything, I like Jalen
Walker fourth for the Patriots from.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Georgia reiver look at receiver at all.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, because I don't think there's a receiver I like
enough to take a fourth overall.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I love McMillan. I know your your coworker doesn't, but
I do.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
He doesn't. DJ is not love. We had mory S
Junes Drew on our podcast Forties and Free Agents with
with Danie Jeremiah last week and he has McMillan going
fifth to the Jaguars, which is interesting for a few reasons.
Number one being that he knows what that building is
tough looking about. So the fact that he had tech
McMillan going to the Jaguars is specifically interesting for MJD.

(12:06):
But no, I don't. I don't think he's in that
caliber of receiver. But this is why I don't like
the Patriots being at for It's why I don't like, Uh,
you know that them losing that first overall pick by
beating the blame Joe Milton right now. Yeah, I was
gonna blame Joe Milton. I mean they could be they
could have their pick of the litter. They could be

(12:26):
trading down and like taking Travis Sunder.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Sure, especially with how Ward's getting looked at right now,
It's cool how everyone kind of came to the same
conclusion with the Ward Like really it was like independently
and then together the consensus has all gone like, hey,
this guy's pretty damn good, right, Like, what are we
doing here? Shoot? That would have been nice for the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Right, And even if it hadn't worked out.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
The drum, isn't he just like Steve McNair, guys, listen
to the.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Awesome right, Because if you're including Ward in it, you
could say the class might be three players of true
truly premiere, like would top five almost any you know,
every year type of players, and that's Hunter Carter and
maybe not even Ward, but word it would is gonna
go because he's the quarterback. But so that's why fourth

(13:10):
is an annoying spot. But Jalen Walker, I'm feeling okay
with that. I'm feeling.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, that's interesting. I like Walker a lot. I actually
my favorite, one of my favorite player comparisons I've come
up with is Walker and Clay Matthews from the Packers.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
You would take that, you would absolutely take that.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
That's absolutely but kind of like he was kind of
a tweener coming out of college, a late bloomer too.
Walker was more hyped, but just like that kind of tweener.
But I think it's just gonna be a really good
pass rusher at the very least, and then especially how
defenses are now where they drop so many guys from
the line of scrimmage, Like, Okay, yeah, he's not a
perfect inside linebacker type, but then use him on the

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edge and he can drop right Russia Basser and drop
That's exactly who he's good at. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
So.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I love Walker. He's one of my favorite players in
the draft, didn't. I just haven't pictured him with the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah. You also gave me an interesting which is not
a great sign. But yeah, we're trying to be interesting
on this Mockey. You got the jag Zer number five overall.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
God, Now I want to do McMillan because that would
be fun.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
You could I if there was a wide receiver that
I thought was worth it for the Patriots at for
it just feels like it's a stretch.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
It feels like I have I have a couple of
leans here like so, like Will Campbell and Mason Graham
are kind of what I'm coming down to here. The
McMillan one, there is one I've thrown out there in
the past, but that was just more for fun. But
you know, I kind of want that Ralph Samson haquem
Olajuan going on in Jacksonville with the you know, get
the Brian Thomas junior and McMillan, Oh my goodness, that

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would be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
And you got Godwin and Evans right there for you
as a you know, as a comparison with Liam Cohen.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
So the other comparison I've gone with with Liam Cohen
is last year they drafted Graham Barton, one of my
favorite players in the draft last year, plopped him in
at center and he was a huge booster for the
whole Buckso line. And then the Jags go and sign
Robert Hainsey, who is who Barton beat outs at center,
and so one of my you know, paths I've gone on,

(14:58):
is they draft Will Campbell to and play center, but
this is way high to play center, you know, it's
to draft a guy at center, even though I think
he has more versatility that I think he can played tackle.
But the Jags already have tackles. So are you drafting
a guard here at five? That's a little rich for me.
So that's why I'm going to go with Mason Graham. Okay,
defensive tackle. Just create a really fun defensive line. You know,

(15:19):
there's other players on the edge that maybe they look at,
but and maybe even they go with the McMillan path,
But right, let's go defensive tackle. Pop them in with Walker,
popping in with the artists formerly known as Josh Allen,
and just have a really good, talented defensive line that
can get after the passer and just built there to
Trentches now, I think they I think also the new

(15:39):
GM who you've discussed as well, has no issues with
taking maybe imperfect prospects because Graham's has a little shorter arms.
But just watch his tape, especially He's twenty twenty three tape,
and it's just very explosive and disruptive as well.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Right, maybe the twenty four tape he was playing through injuries.
He does have some detractors out there. I want to
have Ali Connelly on, who does a great job on
his podcast for the read option. I mean, he's he
was very low on Graham, just thinking he's on on
the ground too much, thinking that you can't win the
way he won in college at the pro level, that
it's going to be really hard for him to win quickly,

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like he's Aaron Donald or JJ Whitte, Like he's just
not going to be able to pull that off. And
then what do you have? Maybe a guy who is
a downer on running downs that maybe can't hold up,
but that that's just the other side. And it's good
to have different opinions. That would be fun though him
and Jacksonville. I like that, all right. I'm gonna go.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Think, yeah, he's not blue chip prospect to me, but yeah,
I could say I'm a good one. So I have
something concerned same conservative the hallway.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I'm a little higher than him though, So I am
up with the Raiders and Ashton Genti has been a
very popular pick there in terms of what will happen.
Now I'm on the board, I'm building the team Will
Campbell is still sitting there. You could start him at
guard actually right away, and then at at some point

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Colton Miller is not going to be there forever, you
could move him outside. I wrote down genty just assuming
that this was going to be the process that happened.
And yet if I'm on the clock and I'm the
one building the team, I actually would take Will Campbell here.
So that is what I'm gonna do. As much as
I would love Genty there, I just think I just

(17:23):
think it makes sense for them. People get way too
locked into what the roster is right now. They have
a right tackle that they like in glaze, so that's
kind of cover. It's fine. We've seen this happen all
the time in NFL history, where a guy starts out
at guard and moves to left tackle when the incumbent
eventually moves or goes the other way, gives left tackle
a shot and moves inside. In this case, I think

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he would just start out at guard. And even though
it's rich, I guess for the six pick, I don't
know guards are getting rich. Nate guards are getting paid
the same as cornerbacks, getting paid way more than off
ball linebackers and safeties and running backs. So guards, if
you're kind of like looking at the average value of

(18:06):
what's the franchise number. If you just made a guard
franchise number, they don't do that now, it actually would
be over twenty million. It'd be very high. So if
we're valuing the position that much, I'm fine. I'm fine
taking them sixth overall and just making the whole group better.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
And when you're just talking about long term stuff and
you bumping up the left tackle. What I love about
Campbell is I could picture him at all five spots
and so like the term I've kind of come up
with him is he's a best five and abler, Like,
no matter what, you're gonna get your best five out
there because he unlocks that ability no kind of like
Toney is able to do that in theory, then you
seem at left tackle for extended periods and you're like,

(18:42):
but it's but I think that I really like Campbell.
I'm super high on I'm and actually a couple other guys,
But I really like him just because of that ability
and I could just picture it and see it. Just
I think he's just such a smart player and such
a way better athlete I mean, he tested like it,
but way better athlete than he's still getting credit for
just a good player.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I'm always wary of saying like it's a safe pick
when it's an offensive line. People do that all the time,
and then it's like Ikya Khanu and that draft, the
who did the Giants take their Evan Neil? Evan Neil?
They're like, oh, yeah, well, these are saves, plug and
play ten years. Like no, you can't say that about
literally any position except for maybe a couple prospects each year,

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which are just exceptionally even though occasionally that's not right
about all right, You got the Jets at number seven.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Man, so who is still out there? I'm just trying
to look at my my Blue Chippers. Jets are an
interesting team. They could do a few things like I honestly,
I've looked at offensive line here, especially with Memboo from
Maszoo would be the guy. But I want to get
spicy wow. So I'm gonna have I'm gonna have some
fun here. I'm gonna go Coulson Love one woow, Michigan.

(19:51):
I just finished writing up a article on Yahoo and
I went into the process. I watched these guys usually
during the season, mostly focused on NFL. I watched Acus
you about two games during the season. If I'm being honest,
then I start picking up after the season, usually for
article purposes, start pulling clips. Wrote about love Tyler Warren
from Penn State, who was my tight end one on

(20:11):
my last big board, Loveland right behind him. I watched it,
and I think Loveland is clearly above Warren as a
tight end prospect. After studying six games and trying to
really look in the stats and everything, Loveland is a
true upside as a wy tight end, meaning in line.
I don't love taking tight ends early, but I think
his floor is high for a twenty one year old

(20:32):
tight end as a rookie that already shows it. It's
not just you know ideas, it's not projection that he
can block in line but also split out and be
a true weapon as like a I would you know,
maybe not the alpha receiver, you know pass catcher, but
if you haven't paired with a guy I don't know
Garrett Wilson, that's a great little pairing and great little

(20:54):
synergy that they can work off each other, can attack
all three levels. He's a good route runner, already already
mentioned that he's young, a good frame, he's longer than Warren,
and also I think already a better blocker, even though
Warren's been kind of sold as a better blocker. I
think love One is already at his tier, maybe better
and projects better because he's young and long and so. Yeah,
so I'm gonna go call some level in here and

(21:15):
the Jets I've desperately needed some tight end help and
better tight end coaching. It's been one of the low
p atrocities in the of the last the last year
or two. Oh yeah, it's been one of the things
I can't anytime you watch the Jets, the tight ends
is their run game would be absolutely It was like
the Chargers the last few years. The tight ends were
so bad at blocking in the run game that that

(21:37):
crippled the run game more than the offensive I did. Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I like that too. The offensive coordinator Tanner Engstrom coming
from Detroit, so he gets his he gets his Sam Laporta.
They certainly want to use that middle of the field
in that type of offense. I keep saying it. I
think this Jets team has more than people realize. Not
like it's got to go to the playoffs, but especial offensively,
they're really just missing one spot on the offensive line.

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But they got the rest of the draft to do that.
And if you're in a spot where you feel pretty
good about four spots on your offensive line, that's a
good place to go from. And they could certainly use
a weapon alongside Garrett. So Garrett Wilson, So I really
like that pick there. I'm with you. I think Loveland
versus Warrant, you just can see it easier. Tyler Warren
is such a unique prospect that I feel like I'm

(22:26):
not smart enough to quite know if that's going to
work or not, whereas Loveland, you just get it. I'm
going to make another surprising pick here before we take
our first break, the Carolina Panthers. And I was talking
about blue chip players potentially in this draft. There's only
like a couple, so I'm taking Hunter. I feel like
Will Johnson has a chance to be a true blue
chip NFL player, So I'm putting him on the Carolina

(22:49):
Panthers at number eight overall. I do, I know he's
not the athlete likely. They have their pro day coming
up in a couple of weeks that some cornerbacks that
have gone this high are but in terms of the profile,
in terms of the twenty twenty three tape, and in
terms of the upside, they need defensive players they've set.

(23:12):
Dave Canallis has said it like we have to focus
on the defense, and I think of all the defensive
guys out there, he would be the guy that I
feel good enough about the floor and that I feel
has a real top ten worthy ceiling. So I am
gonna go Will Johnson at cornerback to the Panthers.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
You could pick any defensive player or like high end
defensive prospect here for the Panthers, Like yeah, yeah, yep, yeah, yeah, totally.
You know, like I get any guy here, So you
go linebacker, Jahad Campbell, you go edge. You know, I
mentioned mikel Williams or Mike Green or something like that,
but or corner. I'm with you on Will Johnson. He's
still a top ten player for me.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Check.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, I have him met nine. I think I'm gon
last big more nine or eight and he'll probably hang
around there seventy eight nine. I he's just smart, like
and it has great size for the position. The long
speed is the one thing that you know, his big
knock and his twenty twenty four tape wasn't overwhelming. He
battle an injury and some of that. Some people weren't

(24:14):
happy that he kind of more or less sat out
the season. But I mean, if you watch Michigan's quarterbacks,
you don't understand why, right, Oh my god, but I
really like him. He was my number one player at
the mid season point, is.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
What I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's
what you want. That kind of player that would inspire
a guy like Nate Tice to have him number one
overall at some point.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
He just knows how to use his body, Like his
body positioning is like very good, Like he knows how
to play corner and it's just that's why I like him,
Like I yeah, so drop him next to Horn and
that's like just a dynamic corner pairing, just a really
fun one. So yeah, I like Johnson a lot.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
You got Trevin Morgan there at safety, but you brought
back Mike Jackson at cornerback. I mean, you don't really
have a slot player. You need a lot, you need
everything just about on that Dvinia, I would say you
really could use a cornerback and I think he fits.
Let's take a quick break and we'll be back on
the other side with the rest of the picks back

(25:13):
on NFL Daily. If I was making a ranking of
current media people that at some point might get asked
to actually join a front office, I'd have to go
to I'd have to go with DJ number one. Jeremiah's
number one. He's in a big spot. I know what's
happened in the past. Yeah, and you know it's a pipeline, Mayock,

(25:39):
you know to the Raiders now that that spot's a pipeline.
But number two on that list, I think is Nate Tice.
So we are really, we are really putting him to
the test field. Yates would be a fun one, yeah,
but I just feel like they'll they'll look at Nate
and they'll say, okay, former former quarterback, this guy's really smart.
And so we're now putting what it would be like
if Nate was running sixteen different NFL teams. If you

(26:02):
were Mickey Loomis, what a world that would be? Who
would you take for the New Orleans Saints?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Aren't Bloch just do whatever I want. It's just because
I haven't shaved all week and I'm wearing a floppy
hat and you're like, yeah, you look like a scout.
That's exactly what you're going with. No, yeah, I figure
myself more of a pro scout anyways.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
But okay, okay, you know same. That's why I do
the free agency list, I know, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, yeah, safe circles here. You know, I want to
go with this guy, but I want to save it,
Like with McMillan there, I'm tempted with quarterback there. God,
they could do a lot. I've really squeezed Will Johnson here.
I know I'm supposed to go quicker, but I'm stalling
for time.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Memboo has a strong option. I think Saints fantas Now
this is one where if it really might divide whether
it's you running the team or them running the team,
because my personal opinion is they would be thrilled to
have the choice of Shador or Membo. But I don't
think you should do that. You need to do what
Nate wants to do. I'm by any time here. That's
what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, I'm gonna go with Memboo because that's where I
was kind of leaning anyways. But it's just also the
thing they don't have regime changes, so it sounded like
Mickey loom the new GM is going like well, chev Penning.
You know, It's like right, Mickey Loom is still there.
So I'm gonna go with Memboo just because, yeah, I
might as well. Just this is what they've done in
the past, is built through the trenches. I know Sean

(27:24):
Paigne's not there, but just keep building through the trenches.
Get more talent up there. Put Penning a left guard,
I guess, h and drop this guy in a right tackle.
I really like Memboo. He is either I'm still trying
to decide if he is my O lineman one, but
he is either one or two for me. But I
really really like him. Think he can stick out of
tackle on either side. He could play left side as well.

(27:46):
I haven't really gotten this pairing though in the past,
but I think the Saints could do really anything. And
I'll just not be ahead and go yep, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, because he's going earlier and some I think Saints
fans have this one in their head. If they don't
get Okay shoulder, I think they would love this outcome. Now,
the more typical Mickey loomis move would be to pick
up fifthier option for Trevor Penning or even give them
an extension, just like make it seem like it was
a good DRAFTO. Yeah, but Membo would I think make

(28:16):
a lot of sense. All Right, I got the Bears
now and Will Campbell's off the board, and so I'm
actually gonna switch places. And now Ashton Genty is the
Chicago Bear, and I just think if the top two
offensive linemen are off the board, it's maybe a little
early for Gray's abel not crazy. I actually was thinking

(28:39):
about Loveland here and you already took him. I think
Ashton Genty to the Bears would be a great pairing.
You support your young quarterback with a strong running game
and we fly. You need weapons however they come, and
he would absolutely be a weapon for them. No, I
like it.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
I think Ben Johnson's not making any mistake of like
what he's all about, and especially with the offensive line
and no half measures with it. And I think you
know this is the same team that as Gibbs. He
doesn't really like Swift. I'm just reading tea leaves. And
also I think they're for sure taking a run back somewhere.
I've been curious which one day actually pull the trigger on,

(29:18):
because I think there's a lot of fun potential fits there.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Right, Tavon Henderson or Marion Hampton would be interesting fits.
Whether in the first or second, who really knows, but
but I think if Gent was there, I think it
makes sense. All right, you got forty nine ers number level.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Oh Man, I've been usually doing offensive lineman for them. Actually,
one I have kind of come around with is maybe
they go edge and they you know, get a little
juice across from Nick Bosa and I for me Man,
actually I'm gonna go with Mikel Williams. Actually here this
is a little rich, but I'm going to go with
him here and this is more a I wasn't gonna

(29:55):
go Mike Green. Actually, I was setting this all up
to say Mike Green for Marshall. BO know, Mikel, because
I just think his I think Mikel's floor is as
a plus run defender, average pass rusher. Now I'm saying floor.
I think that he's very young, he is going to
be a very good run defender, potentially elite type of
run defender with a I think a secondary pass rusher,

(30:17):
but has potential to tap into more like Montese sweat
you in the league kind of status in the league.
I think that's the that's what mikel could achieve, you know,
kind of the you know, the big chunk of like
what his potential could be or likelihood. But yeah, I
go here. And I also think that works really well
with Nick Bosa because of what Bosa brings to the table.

(30:37):
And you know, it could be a little pass first,
pass rush first and second and third before defending the run,
you know. So I think that just could fun little
synergy inject a little real talent into his defensive line
room as opposed a bunch of retreads and Day two picks.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah there. I think it's such a huge need for them.
I would say it's their their biggest if I had
to choose one. I know they have Nick Bosa there,
but this is a team that wants to operate a
certain way. And I think Robert sala is getting there
and he's thinking he got back and all I've got
is Jordan Elliott at defensive tackle and like Kevin Gibbings
and it could be a pass rushing defensive tackle. But

(31:13):
I don't know if there's anyone to take here or
gross Matos as the other edge opposite Bosa. It's like, no,
give me a big guy.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
You look at the roster and you start going like
huh yeah. For me, in forty nine ers, it's automatic trenches.
It's defensive line or offensive line. That is, like if
they go in any other position, I am going to
be like, really, Derek Harmon would be the defensive tackle.
I haven't looked at here for Oregon, which I have
mocked them in the past as selecting here.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
See you're you have so much experience here, like I
usually mock them here, but then sometimes do them here.
This is my first mock, so be gentle on me.
The Dallas Cowboys are up next. I do think this
is where you take a chance on Tech McMillan.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Actually I game this one up.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
There aren't like a perfect wide receiver prospect in this class,
I guess, unless you count Travis under and want to
see him there. But I think he would be a
fine compliment, certainly to Ceedee Lamb. A different skill set,
a type of skill set they they have liked there,
like a like a much better Michael Gallup. Uh, you know,
before the before the surgery and Dak's gonna Dak's gonna

(32:21):
make it work. It seems like a pick that they
would make. Tyler Warren actually seems like a pick that
they would make. I just could can imagine that on
draft night. To me, Jake Ferguson should not be stopping
you from doing it. But I think Tech McMillan's a
bigger need, uh, a better fit and a premium position.
So let's go with him to the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, Cowboys only go after big ten tight ends, so
they got huge toys. They got two choices there right
at the top to pick from.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Uh uh No.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I I really like this kind of pairing as I've
kind of really marinated on it. I also think Ceedee
Lamb and Tech McMillan they need a little bit more juice.
But that's why you have turpin. Uh. You know, they
keep kind of spread the spread the field. But I
I think, man, that's perfect synergy because he's, like you
just said, he's gallop. He's a true ex that can
move around a little bit. That's why I like him
a lot. And I always get kind of confused when

(33:09):
people mock or receiver to the Cowboys and it's a
slot guy. It's like do you guys know what ceedee
Lamb's good at, Like he's like he's the epitome of a.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Power Who would that be specifically that you see and
mock to them that you.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Don't Luther Burden, Yeah, you know, Golden makes sense because
or you know, even a mecha Buka is kind of
confusing to me because I envisioned him as a z
slash slot like power slot and you know, you could
do some two man game with him in CD, so
that was not crazy, but maybe some more j two
guys like a Luther Burden.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
True or false, you came up with the phrase power slot.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I I maybe popular popular realized it. I definitely think
I stole it from a guy, a coworker with the
Falcons who used it, But I definitely, uh, I will
say I took it and ran with it because I
thought it was just a perfect phrase.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
That's solid. That's like an important thing to do as
a media member is have little things like that, like
you're giving back to the community. I think I think
I was the first one to do hold in And
now that that you know, you can't really claim hold in,
but I'm pretty sure like Holden, there was there was
one other one over the years. But holden, I'm I'm
calling his mind power slot is yours. Forget that former employee,

(34:20):
he doesn't have a microphone. Let's go of Miami Dolphins next.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I'm going with and I don't even have to look
because I I this rosters so well now, because I'm
always just like, huh, this is what you guys are.
Malachi Stark's safety from Georgia, who's kind of dropped a
little bit, but I think this is the start of
his range. Really went into the season as a top
ten player for me, and I agree with some of
the dropage, but not maybe the full dropage. He's one

(34:47):
of those guys that his low lights make him look
worse than his actual play. Like he he's a guy
that gets dunked on as a tackler, Like he's a
really good defender that gets dunked on a basketball So
you're like, oh, man, this guy keeps getting dunked on,
But when you watch him, he's actually really good defender.
Malchai Starks's misstackles are really bad, but then when you
watch them, you're like, oh, he's a good tackler. Oh
he's actually like really good, Like body positioning and get

(35:09):
into the right spot and wrapping guys up in space.
And he actually is a little more juice to him.
He's he's very he's versatile, he can kind of overrun
some things. First little player as well. But if you
look at the Dolphins, they need guards and they need safeties.
That is like what their roster needs. The guards selections here,
maybe Calvin Banks or something like that. Zabel is a
guy you mentioned, Maybe I Josh Connerly from Oregon. Like

(35:33):
I don't think Simmons from Ohio State is a guy
because if they add another injured player to their offensive line,
I will pull my hair out. So Malachi Starks just
fills in need for him and a very good player
or a good player, I should say bring some versatility too,
you know, because that coohu's in his last year. I
think then he's the slot player there. Soin Starks can
play some slot as well.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
A great defender that gets dunked on. So he would
be the Derek White I would say of the NFL potentially,
because Derek White has led the NBA in blocks from
among guards three straight years. He's great at it. He
has blocked a ton of like setters at the rim.
But he always tries. So if you're always trying, you're

(36:14):
getting ducked on sometime, but you still get you still
get on the second team All NBA. My son's favorite
player got him a jersey when they won the title.
I said, they had to win the title, so you
had that little thing. Great player. They need defensive tackles.
I could hear their their fans screaming, especially after they
didn't get Khalays Campbell back. So who knows could could
Kenneth Grant go like that high? I don't think it

(36:35):
would be that crazy, But not for the Dolphins. In
this mock the Colts are going to take what I'm
going to just do. The one of the most common
picks I feel like in MOCKX going right now, Tyler Warren.
We talked about him as a tricky evaluation, but I
do think they just need juice and I do think
you have to have a really clear idea of what
you're going to do with this player, Tyler Warren when

(36:57):
you get him. And I could be wrong, but I
feel like Saint Stichen is a guy I would trust
to come up and actually have a vision to make
it worth it. Even if he wouldn't fit everywhere, I
feel like they could make it work.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Fitting in with the Colts, Yeah, Warren makes a lot
of sense for the Colts. And that's what I kind
of came to conclusion. I came to my articles like
I like loved one for just about everybody. Yeah, while
Warren is more like he has to go to certain
spots he needs either a blocking tight end with him
to free him up, you know, a guy's you know,

(37:31):
so like certain teams like that made more sense to me,
like the Seahawks, maybe even the Chargers. But and the
Colts made sense to me because, like you just mentioned
with Stike in schematically how he uses his tight ends.
He's not asking him to be a you know, kick
ass blocker in line. He's doing a lot of RPOs
where they can kind of be freed up and just
be truly receivers and everything. So and Warren can do

(37:52):
some dirty work stuff. He's better on the move as
a blocker as opposed to inline blocking big dns. He's like,
you know, a good linebacker blocker and good safety blockers.
So I actually like this fit with the Colts, And
there's other receiving options to kind of story. He doesn't
have to be a number one or high end number
two guy right away. Also, also my comparison for him
is Dallas Clark, so it makes even more sense going

(38:14):
to the Colts.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, if you're trying to be a basketball team a receiver,
I mean, you got a couple of power forwards there now,
Tyler Warren, Michael Pittman, you got, you got some size,
you got some juice with down to Mitchell. Yeah, it's
so much. Yeah, it's a big group. You got the
Falcons another big offensive weapon group. Although I don't think
you're going to add to that.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Maybe no, even though they just sent sentenced or mentioned today,
I think Arthur Blank that they might add to their
offensive line group, which is just they need defensive line
bad that maybe maybe even inside linebacker as well. They
need a lot this Falcons team. But I man, is
this the you know what I'm gonna give them, Mike Green.

(38:57):
I'm gonna give them what I who I think is
a you know, they would never touch him in real
life because character concerns, but I would I and this
fantasy booking fan fiction that we're doing in this mock draft,
I am having Mike Green go to the Falcons. Since
I don't know Obama second term, they have needed pass
rush help and Mike Green has a lot of high

(39:20):
end juice. He also was productive last year at Marshall
seventeen and a half sacks I think off the top
of my head. But also when he played high in
the competition like Ohio State, he was still playing well
and dominating and showing up. Also think, you know, he's
maybe a little limited against the run because of his size.
We'll get overwhelmed by bigger, stronger tackles. But he plays

(39:41):
really hard and he has potentials being disruptive against the run,
but maybe not efficient, if that makes sense. Explosive against
the run, but not efficient, Like we'll get taken out
of place. He can get overwhelmed, but then we'll get
a TfL and knife inside, you know, and get a
TfL to kind of make up for it. Boom busts
against the round maybe, but against the past. Think that
at worst he is a high end number two okay,

(40:04):
but I think he potential to be an ACE really
but he could be a ten sac guy like season
and season now because he has that passer us potential.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, I mean, they need a high end two. They
need a high end three, they need a one. They
need it all. It's been a while, and so I
actually think they're in a good spot for this edge
class because I feel like they would take the same
player at fifteen that they'll if they had the seventh pick,
that they probably would take. But they're in a spot
where they probably will have their pick of a few

(40:32):
different options, and they're going to really like the pick
that they that they have and they'll they'll all start
going off the board around now if they haven't already. Cardinals. Man,
I could see a lot of players fitting with the Cardinals,
but I just think Johad Campbell is such a nice
fit in that defense where you're asking him to do
a few different things. Maybe the only off ball linebacker

(40:54):
in this class that is going to be expected to
start right away. Kaiser White still hasn't been sign which
hurts my heart. He's just sitting out there in free agency,
even though is his defensive coordinator named his kid after him.
So I don't know that that spot's pretty wide open,
and there's a lot of needs that they have and
that they're not like screaming needs. They do need an
off ball linebacker right now. And I just think that's

(41:16):
another versatile piece that they would like to add to
a defense and one that I think would know how
to use him to.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah. No, I like front seven makes a lot of
sense here. They can go anywhere on defense too, and
not more not in like the Panther sense. It's like
they got a lot of like solid role player types. Yeah,
you know, Budda Baker also very good, and they're kind
of funky on the front end. So I like a
guy like Campbell because he can. Kimbell's awesome, just a
really good player. I've kind of really had him go

(41:42):
into the bucks a lot. But the same argument here
is because he can contribute against the ron. He's a
good run defender, he's good kind of ascending coverage player.
But he also he has some pass rush jues. So like, yeah,
defense like this that blitzes everybody in every way shape
or for him.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, love it, right, And I was saying, like, you
can't just be worried about need, like they could absolutely
take an edge player, even though they have a few
more edge players. They could take a number of positions.
They could take an offensive lineman certainly, but you know,
you do. Look at the roster and right now they're
starting off ball linebackers are Mac Wilson, a Keem Davis Gather,

(42:20):
Michael Walker. Like, I don't right, there's two spots there. Although,
come on, bring Kaizier back, and I just feel like
I thought he was good last year. All right, a
couple more picks and then we'll take another break. You
are up with the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, this one, to me feels like you just look
at four spots guards or defensive tackles and then you
kind of go from there. I have there's some other
spots I've kind of looked at for the Bengals. I'm
curious what you think, but I'm going to go with
Derek Harmon here from Oregon. Just I love Harmon. He's
one of my favorite players in this draft. A high

(42:55):
upside comparison as a team Hicks, but just a guy
that contributes against the wrong contributes against the pass, is
not going to be that Oh my god, this guy
is getting were threatening nine to ten sacks in a year,
but more of that four to six sec. Guy can
play in any type of defense too, Like he's versatile,
he can he could be a one gaper he can
two gap. He lined up all across the defensive line

(43:16):
for Oregon, which is really cool. He'll play the nose
on one snap. He's like a d end on other
looks where they're twisting guys. I don't know. There's just
a lot to like with Harmon. And then he tested well,
so like that just put him over the top for me. Yeah,
really like this player. Like I'm closer to Graham than
maybe you know others do. And I just think that

(43:36):
this would be a great get for the Bengals because
they need this kind of like player that's going to
be a good player for them as opposed to an
idea or just another stop gap on the interior.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
A Keem Hicks entered the league in twenty twelve, big dude,
difference maker, rare guy that I would say three different
organizations were like, oh, yeah, he was great for us,
the Saints, the Patriots, who was barely what he was
awesome with the Patriots, and then he had a long
run at the end of his career with the Bears.
And that is a great comp there. And if you

(44:07):
could if you could get eighty percent of a team Hicks,
I think you would be happy, right there. I have
the Seahawks at number eighteen. This one's tough for me,
but the way that the board fell, I think this
is the spot for Gray's Abel, the North Dakota State
offensive lineman. It's got some versatility in terms of what

(44:28):
position he wants to play. They did have a you know,
a guy who played okay for them at center, Olawa Tommy.
So I don't know if he's going to be a
center here, but he might be following in your guy
Graham Barton's footsteps of like, you know, played left tackle
all the smaller you know, but could move inside. But whatever.
He just seems like a first round player. And if

(44:50):
he wasn't on the board, I probably wouldn't have gone
offensive line. I don't know if they'll do it in
the first round or not. There's other good players positions
in need they could do it, but I think for
them right now where they're at, the need meets the talent.
I think he's I think he's worth taking this high
from everything I know, but I'm not the olignment expert.
Do you think this is too rich? Would Mike? Would

(45:11):
your dad think this was too rich for him? Eighteen? Overall?

Speaker 2 (45:15):
No, I think this is kind of right where his range.
To me, I think he's an eighteen to thirty type player,
you know, or just say back half of this first round.
That's much easier sixteen to thirty two. Why make it
tighter than I have to? I really like Zabel. I
was actually surprised my dad liked him as much as
he did, and he, of course considers him an interior

(45:36):
offensive linement. But he goes, of course, it's great when
in theory that you can bump him out the tackle
in a pinch, you know, it's great to see that
he can hold his own. But he actually brought it
up to me because I was like, I view him
as a center, and he goes, you mentioned that he
didn't play center in college, and I was like, no,
he played the other four spots though, right, And he said, well,
my developmental path for him would be guard first year's

(45:58):
center second year. And that sounds great for the Seahawks. Okay,
he's the left guard or right guard. I'm shoot, neither
one should preclude you from starting him. And then but
I'm a I like ola Wa Temi. I really do
I think he saw it. I think he's you know,
I'm not saying top ten center, but like a fine
starting center, like you don't need to get a guy.
But then as things get better, you know, you weather

(46:19):
the storm. Zabel's guard, Okay, do we bump them the
center because we'd like this other guard better and YadA
YadA yah, but.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Or or even right tackle? Could he play right tack
because like Charles, Charles Cross is a left tackle. I
know they are hoping they get a healthier season out
of Abe looks, but you can't really, you can't count
on that we'll see. So, yeah, it's some flexibility, a
sneaky tight end team for me too. But yeah, that
was that was in the I wrote down tight end
potentially all right, Bucks, and then we'll do the Broncos

(46:47):
and then we'll take our last break.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Well, this is so hard now because I just really
have gone jaha Campbell here so many times, have Mike
on autopilot, I'm going to go. It feels like to
me that they could go a defen they want pass rush.
Tobbles already mentioned, hey, we need pass rush help without
me blitzing at the highest trade on third down that
we've ever seen, which which is actual fact. In the

(47:09):
second half of the year. They they're willing to take
chances on guys too. I'm gonna go with Schamar Stewart
from Texas A and m Okay, which, even though I'm
in charge of this is a little rich for me,
you don't have to take I will because I understand
the argument here for where the Bucks are at, what
they kind of want to do. They always like kind

(47:30):
of doing the Colossus of Rhodes, you know, one foot
in the present, one foot in the future. I think
Stuart's that type of player, being young, being a quote
unquote developmental player, even though he's played a lot of
high end football and he's not very productive. I just
think I understand the bet on his traits, Like I
totally understand that in the NFL is a trades league,

(47:51):
Like you can't be a dummy to that and not
expect some of these kind of what you maybe consider reaches.
If you watch the film, Stuart's flashes are really cool.
I also think he's blowing here over runs a lot
of plays, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Just like, that seems bad. That seems bad. Yeah, I know,
I know.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
But again with the Bucks, when I'm running hit a
little bit and begin him to think a little bit later.
Maybe just that helps him out more of an aggressive
defense where he can just slant and go and do
those types of things. So going with the Bucks here,
I just wish Campbell's st because that's a lot more
more a fun fit for me. Have you have you
any other thoughts for the Bucks for you, because I'm
one of those teams that is always interesting to me.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
No, my thought was as a Roku, but potentially just
a different edge option. Maybe that's too rich, but just
I could see them him fitting kind of what they do,
maybe a little more polish opposite asan Reddick. But no,
they they sound like they want to go defense is
the feeling that you get. But it could it really
could be any position. He read Jamel Dean the Riot

(48:51):
Act publicly and that was a player he's believed to
be very close with, So like cornerback could certainly be
a pick there. They ever get tired of taking cornerbacks,
so I could see that as well.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Hey, they're on the best drafting teams.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Jason light he gets it done, dude.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
He's here's my jam of the year.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Last year, an NFL Daily guest was it was a
great guest, gave me the business all right before we
go broncos Man. If they actually so, they probably will
have these options too. It really does feel like they
have to just draft a weapon, like and I don't
think there's some defensive player that they just have to

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take at this point. So it comes down to mari
and Hampton, who I am very high on as a
running back that would be worth going in the first round,
or Amika Abuca. And I think if it was my team,
I would take Abuca. And I know he's not going
to be your future number one, but I think there
is part of me that and I'm the one running
the team that still has that in my head that like,

(49:53):
we can make this running game work. This is a
deep running back class. I think it's gonna hurt, Maybe
not Hampton because I consider him a pretty strong number two,
but I think it might hurt like the Ohio State
running backs of people just waiting because they just feel
like this class is deep and like we don't need
to force it in the second round here. But even
I have that thought with Hampton, and I just want

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to get a wide receiver because I think they really
could use one, and I know they're higher on their
receivers than other and so I'm going to take a buga.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, I could totally see why Peyton would like Abuka too.
He's he's like a coach's dream exactly.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
He loves smart players, he loves versatile players, he loves
inside players, all it all works.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
I think he can be he is and he could
be the power slot all the way, you know that
that type of player. Yeah, I really like Abuka. He's
my receiver too, and this is exactly where I think
his reign should be. So they've kind of been for
the Broncos, has been like a gent maybe a Hampton team,
maybe a tight end team for some people. Yeah, that
you know that's been popular in some circles, is right.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
And they have this idea that I know they have
Evan Ingram there, but that that's a short term, that's
a short seria thing. And he's calling him like a joker,
and I'm like, is Evan Ingram that I don't I
don't know if he's.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
That Like the tight end evaluations are always interesting because
he he likes, as we just mentioned, dirty work receivers
and he likes he likes drafting lineman and then he
always goes after these like finesse receiver tight ends and.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
He pairs them with like a blocking only guy, and
uh yeah, maybe Abuca would be like a you know,
a smaller power slot.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Uh Marcus inverted inverted a little bit.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah, you know, for some reason, Marcus Colston gets more
player comps than just about anyone, and I'm glad for that.
Let's take a quick break and we're gonna roll through
the last twelve picks and I'm not gonna let Nate
comments on my picks and vice versa. We're gonna go faster. Okay,

(51:52):
back on NFL Daily Now, I feel like a jerk
by setting up this artificial scenario we can't comment on
each other's picks. Maybe it will just make it quick.
I mean, Nate loves this. I don't want to rob
him of any quality time with me, and you really
do love it. I would say that we were just
talking in the break of like some good advice you

(52:14):
got when you were coming up about learning the league
that you got to know both sides. You got to
know how players actually fit in the league, and you
got to know how they fit on current rosters, which
I think sometimes is a blind spot for some of
the draft knicks out there. But the advice I would
give and I don't need to give it to Nate,
is you better love this. You better love this, Like
Nate says in the break how much he genuinely likes

(52:38):
this exercise because it gets him thinking, It gets it
like and when I talk to some people who want
to get in, I was like, you better like really
love the football side of it, not not the media
side of it. Necessarily you need to love both ultimately,
but you need the football part of it to carry
you through the times when it feels like a little

(52:59):
bit more of a that you'll always be able to
go back to that. And I don't know if anyone
loves ball more than Nate. I mean, I'll give it.
I'll give it up to you.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Which is the irony because like even when I was playing,
I like the film aspect and like the scheme install
more than like working out. Like no, like the midline
side of it. I know, And yeah, there's a lot
of that. There's a lot of people always come to
me and go like, you know, I've realized I'm terrible
with this advice. I've tried to get better when they're like, hey,

(53:25):
what's like a key aspect to like getting better. And
I'm like, you just got to watch like you just
gotta build a rollex in your mind. They're like, okay,
so like what do you watch like everything?

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Here's the thing that that's not a one size fit
all advice, because I know it's you could just say
for me, but there's so many different roles within the
media that some people like watching a ton it might
not really click for them or it might not be
where what they need to do. But what I would
say is, even if you're not that person, you still

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got to have the love of the football there. That's
what I That's sort of what I mean that even
if you're you're playing a different role and maybe you're
not like it, you still need that love and it
needs to come out in some certain way. And you'd
be surprised how many people don't really quite have that.
And then those are the people that fall off, even
the ex players that are in there. I don't need

(54:20):
to tell you this that the ex players, there's varying
degrees of how much they love football. Some of them
loved competing, but they really and some of them are
extremely smart and went really far because they worked hard
at football and we're smart about football, but they're still
not that into it. There's somehow like a dichotomy that

(54:42):
it's just like, yeah, yeah, it's like I wasn't into
watching other football, Like why would I care?

Speaker 2 (54:46):
That's it. It was like, hey, we're playing the Dolphins
this week. I watched a lot of Dolphins, and I
watched through the Dolphins played the last couple of weeks
and then I'll never think about them again. And these
are great players too, like they can be pro pro
Bowl players are like just saying scrubs.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Right, it doesn't necessarily stop you. It's not a one
size fits all. It's a it's a sliding scale of also,
like hey, sometimes if you don't have the athleticism, you
will need that extra work to catch up, which is
how I view myself, at least in terms of the
media part of it. So better, I better. We're working hard,
all right, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna make
these last twelve picks. We can make comments about each other's.

(55:24):
We don't need to just shut our mounds.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
There's red lights on behind it.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
But we're gonna do it at like a little bit
of a pace to get out of here. The Pittsburgh
Steelers are picking twenty first. They are the classic stick
and pick team. And right now I'm like the last
person to realize this. A couple of weeks ago. Every
everyone is on their original draft pick, which is just amazing.
Right is that true?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah? Right, it was the first time ever or something
like that's preposterous.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
I mean, think about the NBA, where it's literally the opposite.
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Anyone through the notes of like the I got traded
come up.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Second round in the NBA. I believe no one this
is this is true. I believe no one took their
original second round pick. I believe in the NBA, which
is just oh no.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Don't look so you look at you, look at you
like the same stuff, like little tidbits. I do. I
love that kind I do.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
It seems crazy, it seems absolutely crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Oh oh yeah no, that's just yeah, you're right. Of course,
some career got traded. I would say each one got
traded more than once. Oh no, one one only got
traded once? Yes, what I mean they have to come
up with a different word. Portland Trail Razers selected to
pick thirty four from Charlotte via New Orleans to Oklahoma
City to Denver traded to New York.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Second round picks in the NBA are crazy, they're they're like,
they're like it saying they're like NFL sixth round picks.
But if if like they were just half the guys
international player, right, if they were just way less of them,
and you can do it seven years out. I often
think about how different the NFL would be if you
were allowed to trade picks out As far as the NBA,

(57:00):
it always seems crazy to me. Was like, well, I
don't know if the Lakers like that's the best draft set,
the asset they have the twenty nine first that they've
been holding on too. I'm like twenty nine, like you're
in the NFL, you're three resumes away. Like imagine if
you would allow teams in the NFL right now to
trade to thirty and thirty one like the NBA, it
would be absolutely insane.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Or that the NBA has rules named after owners trading
away their picks too much, right, the Steppian roll right,
because they trade away the Calves owner true away five
or five first rounders in a row. So they said, yeah,
you can't do that anymore. You can't trade first rounders
back to back.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Here I can. I can see like the thought bubble
of of my producer Eric's head, which is bro you
just came back to break saying you got to keep
it quick one minute per and you talked for four
minutes about the NBA. Well, now you guys can't talk
about each other's picks anyway. You just use it all
up on NBA draft knowledge.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
I do love the baseball televised now.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yes, I also think it's crazy, and I always think
about how easy would be if we had the NFL
Draft a week and a half after the Super Bowl
that they do this is great, that's that would be crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Or even the NBA. It's fun because it goes uh yeah,
and do the draft and free agency.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
I think that actually makes sense. But the week and
a half later, man, that would be crazy. As from
a media said, all right, we're gonna do it twenty first,
it's the Steelers. You're up.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I'm gonna go savone ravel Wow, okay, yes, Corner East Carolina.
I think he's very talented. Yes he's coming off in ACL.
Yes he is from a smaller school, but his tape
is very good, some inconsistencies playing the run, but I
think he's just the talent of him being a true
outside corner type. I've compared him to Antonio Cormarti ooh,

(58:43):
former Chargers corner who also came off in ACL, and
my co host on Football three oh one, Charles McDonald,
compared him to Dominique Rogers Cormarti, which we did not
know about, which I thought was very funny. But that
type of corner, long athletic, more tools e than polish,
but polishing, especially for a small school guy.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Love the Cromartes, Love that DRC had his moment in
the Sun. I love that, you know, Antonio one of
the weirdest up and down careers.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
I like that pitch.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
And yes, everyone check out Charles and Nate. They have
a great draft coverage all year long on Football three
oh one. Just do that for me. All right, let's
go to the Chargers today. Barron's still there, right he is. Yeah,
there's a few different players. Marion Hampton would make sense
there too. I know it would be fun. Those are

(59:36):
the two players that I like a lot that I
also think fits what they would possibly want. But again
I'm thinking if it was my team, I probably would
lean Baron. I think I think he's a really good player.
He's a rare player that I actually feel like in
this class. I think he slipped a little. He's a
good value at twenty two. So it's like at this

(59:56):
class is almost like pick your poison between it's seven
and third. But actually think he's a really good player
that I could have taken much higher, and I would
have felt fine about it personally. So I like him
going to the Chargers, and they've shown they can coach
up the secondary. Maybe it's not as huge a need
for them, but they'll find a spot for him for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
That's it. Yeah, find a spot for him on this
type of defense that's more of a you know, we
talked about best five and abler offensive line. That's how
this group views their DBS. You don't get their best.
He's a best five enabler for DBS. I view Moore
as a slot safety than a slot corner. That makes sense. Yeah,
like that that type of hybrid. But I'd like this

(01:00:35):
fit here and I think he could just be a
lot of fun, especially with James and just just creative defense.
This is a perfect type of fit for him.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
All right, you're up. You got the Packers who.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
You know, I know they like Harriston from Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Interesting, you know what I'm gonna get.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
They need a bruiser, and I think they know that.
I'm gonna go Kenneth Grant, oh Michigan, which is not
one I've really done before, a pairing I've done before,
but Kenneth Grant Packers has tools more than just a
run player.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I just say kind of a ground you know. Burley
guy has the upside of that, but has some twitch
to maybe after the passer more of is still developing
as a player, but he has stretches that are as
good as like anybody in this draft. That that's why,
I mean, he has potential to be the best defensive
lignment from this draft. It's just more stretches and everything
has tools. Packers love tools. He guys Devonte why it's

(01:01:26):
been kind of kind of you know, Kenny Clark's kind
of on the back side of his career. So pop
this guy in, go next to my boy Carl Brooks.
Make some magic there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Yeah, that was gonna be my pick with the next
selection Minnesota. And I did do homework for this I
know they've added a couple veteran defensive tackles, but I
think having a guy like him long term would make
a lot of sense. I did do a lot of
homework and I wrote down a bunch of options later
in the draft because I knew i'd be scrambling. But
this is the first time where all the options I
wrote down are off the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Great picks first. Yeah, yeah, you really.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
You I took it away from myself. I'm not I'm
not a fan of uh em and wary, so I
just don't want to make a pick that either quite
not here either, believe in I need your help here.
You know they're not going to go is Walter Nolan.
They're not going to go tackle. I think Walter Nolan

(01:02:28):
can work here from Ole, Miss. Yeah, a lot of
different opinions about him in the in the draft, you're lower.
I do think they need some like long term beef upfront.
And I know they signed Hargrave, but do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
You want more of the defensive tackle plugger type or
do you want more of the athletic, twitchy type. Because
I like Williams from Ohio State. It's like a sneaky
guy here. This is kind of the start of his range. Okay,
and he's like he's early, and you know, we've got
more athleticism to him, but his upside is like a
true plugger.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Let's let's do that. I'm changing milk back for the
first time because I've actually I've also heard people say like, well,
Marian Hampton would fit perfectly in that scheme. It's like, yeah,
but they just gave good money to Jordan May there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
It's just nine.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Yeah, it doesn't make it. Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Aaron Jones ran they you know, they toy. They played
footsie with ty Chandler all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
To me, they were telling us we don't want to
have to worry about running back in the draft because
we want to go hard at other positions. So I
appreciate you helping me out. The vikings Koc is all about.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
He's not going to play a young back like I
I could tell you if he's there for the next
ten years, he's one of those guys that's only going
to play VET running backs because they he just he
has such a short lea ship appears just me just
ringing between the lines when I watched them. He does
not want running backstack back there that he can't trust,
which is kind of funny because Aaron Jones was like that,
but he's developed into an okay pass protector, but he

(01:03:50):
was one of those guys that was bad in best
protection early in his career. So it's kind of funny.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Every two minutes, I suddenly remember, oh, yeah, we were
going to speed it up. You have the Texans, and
then I restart some other conversation. It's it's fine. I like,
this is the first time we've gotten through players like
this at every position and thinking about need and think
about teams specifically. So it has been a really good
exercise for me too. So you're up with the Texans.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Uh, yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Josh Connerly
here from Oregon offensive tackle. This is a guy I'm
high on. But then my dad comes in and blows
my hot take out of the water and he drops
him as offensive lineman one. But that is with the Texans.
I mean, you just look at the roster. It's I
think the third mandate is that they want offensive lineman,

(01:04:35):
even if there's other positions like Golden here would make
a lot of sense. You know, the receiver from Texas,
and I think this is the range for Gold and
I'm comfortable with him. That would make a lot of
sense because I also like the synergy with him and
Nico Collins. But I think the mandate that the Texans
have for their entire offseason is offensive line. Offensive line.
Offensive line. Cam Robinson does not procude you from right

(01:04:58):
drafting a tackle that is a stop that gives you options.
Get your best five out there, get the guys. What
if the guy Connorway's a developing a sending player, you
know he's not all the way there yet. I understand
why my dad's highing. I'm high on them two, but yeah,
that kind of gets you a nice little stop gap
if you need it. By Connorwi could be that blind.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
He does look like an NFL player, And I think
the Texans might have lucked out actually being twenty fifth
because I don't know if the gap between the top
tackles and where they'll be taken. But they might have
a choice between him and Josh Simmons from Ohio State,
which are a both long term possible high upside type
of player. So I like that I got the rams.
I was hoping that Shitarry Sanders would fall all the
way down here. I think they would do it. I

(01:05:38):
think they would do it, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
do it. Why not? I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
I just was actually a good fit for him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Yeah, I want a little spice, I think I think
with the coaching that he would get. And look, he's
had the same sort of coaching his whole career. The
best that he looks is when he's on time, on rhythm,
when he has answers. This offense will give you the chance.
He doesn't have to play right away. I could see it.

(01:06:04):
I think they're definitely in the quarterback market in this class.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Even if I'm not in love with Sanders, now that
it's fallen to me, I didn't have to give up anything.
This feels like an okay spot for him, and I
think it's a good fit for his skill set. So
I'm gonna go ramshitter Sanders.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Yeah. After Ward, I consider the next group of quarterbacks,
which is like six of them all day two dart throws.
That's all I've considered them. But this is the range
of when those day two dart throws, like, yeah, when
people start throwing the darts.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Way back in the day Lamar Jackson was kind of
almost the day to dart throw. They had to trade
back up to, you know, take thirty two.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Few of them over there is Teddy Bridgewater was one
of those two.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Right, which is crazy because you know they the Ravens
took Hayden Hurst first. I mean, there's a whole I know,
it's a whole alter universe where they don't get Lamar
Jackson because the Patriots take them at thirty one or something.
There were those rumors.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
That year Tom Brady was QB one on everybody's boards.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Yeah, and then they took Yeah that's true, but I
mean there was all that week you were hearing that
maybe it was total nonsense, but they took Sony Michelle
and he got his Super Bowl title. The Ravens are
up for you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Yeah, speaking of Olamar Jackson, I'm gonna go Donovan Jackson
Ohio State, just going with Ohio steak guys. Yeah, guy
that played guard bumped out the tackle a little bit
after Josh Simmons got Heart, who you just mentioned actually
had good tape at tackles, surprisingly good tape. But guard
is where he plays in the NFL, has length athlessis
and This is a team that loves their traits at
all their positions. So now you get a guy that

(01:07:33):
has those traits, but on top of it has good film,
really good film. I would even say I love this
range for him. I'm one of the higher guys on him,
but this is very comfortable taking them here. They like
their size on the offensive line. I think this is
a long term starter for them. Don't want to say,
what's the would you say at the beginning the offensive line?
Safe pick? Yeah, not saying safe pick, but I think
this guy has potential to be a good starter for

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a while and more actually, because he's so talented.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
He sounds like a Ravens pick, and I would is
kind of locked in on Tyler Booker, uh the the
Beefy Guard as my Lions pick, because he just feels
like a lion's pick. And I think they're gonna want
to start building for the future that that lion is
getting older. And yet the way the the boards fall
into me, I'm thinking about Matthew Golden. They just made

(01:08:18):
a comment how expensive wide receivers are. I don't think
they're going to want to sign Jamison Williams to a
long term contract. I think they're going to give him
a fifth year option, so they're gonna have to start
replenishing that room. And yet, I don't know what would
you take between Booker and Matthew Golden for the Lions.
I'm asking you, Oh, I think Booker just feels like

(01:08:39):
I'm gonna think, but it's supposed to be what I'm
gonna do. But I would too, because in this case,
I'm running the Lions and I want to keep I
want to keep the uh, the idea of what the
Lions are all about the same falling.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
In love Lions fans based I just based this all
off when I took clips about players and I see
which fan bases are. You know, they all have the
same thing. But a lot of Lions fans are smitten
with Mikel Williams, who has been long drafted at this point,
but they are very smitten Mikel Williams based on my
Twitter feed.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yeah, you could definitely see a second edge. I I's
spaced a little bit on one available, you know it.
It's hard to keep his available. All right, Commanders, you're up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Who is available because they might need an edge? Is
that your guy from Boston College?

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah, That's where I'm going with Donovan. Is a rockup?
Is that how you say it? I think so as
a rockup from Boston College, gonna go that they Vanders need.
I think still the defensive help, even though we've got
They've done a little bit. They they're their off seasons
was very busy. But you know, they signed Javon kin Law,
who I've had yet to be high on. That's a

(01:09:41):
defensive interior guy who they say they might be an
elephant edge as well. But I still think that they
want juice on the outside. I think this player is competitive,
which is what dan Quinn loves. Has some pass rush chops,
He's long. He's not the tallest guy, but he's long,
got some pass rush movement, a little stiffness. But I
think just uh, you know, I think this is just
a guy, know, no matter what, he's going to be
a strong contributor.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
I wish I didn't give that away, you know, I
gave you that pick there because that would be the
perfect pick for the Bills at thirty. I would be
quite high on Jayden Higgins and that would be an
interesting guy to add to that mix. But it maybe
is a little duplicative. Of Kean Coleman. I don't really know,
so I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go Walter Nolan here

(01:10:26):
because I do think they're looking defensive line in general
and put him with the Bills. It's the type of
guy that they tend to like, whether that's always work
for them or not. Like I could, I could see
them going Walter Nolan defensive tackle Mississippi. We've got two
picks to go. You got the Chiefs, I got the Eagles.
What are the Chiefs going to do?

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I just think the timeline that they have, they just
signed the guy. The Chiefs are going. Offensive line here,
I'm going I almost went tight end here, and what
Mason Taylor almost? I just want to say I almost
ended with a little splash, a little smoke bomb at
the end. I really like Mason Taylor. But offensive line,
I am going to go Josh Simmons over Banks. But
I'm going to go just because they want that left tackle.

(01:11:08):
Andy Reid probably dreams about burgers and left tackles. And yes,
they signed a guy uh to maybe be a stop
gap there. But I think now they got a little
bit of path or a little bit of leeway as
Simmons comes back from his knee exploding, but very talented player,
true left tackle, true upside of being a very good
left tackle. Actually because of his athleticism, movement. Some character

(01:11:29):
stuff has probably has cropped up, but the Chiefs do
not care about character. Has been paying attention, so that's
why I think they'd be comfortable with this. But yeah, Simmons,
Josh Simmons, Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Yeah, unfortunately, that is that is exactly like that is
a Chiefs pick, which is all right, let's take the talented.
Maybe there's some injury concerns, maybe there's some off field concerns,
Like give me all your off field concerns if you're
the Chiefs. That's just it's just it's just how it
goes they do. I will go Mason Taylor thirty two
because to me, he is the natural Dallas Godder replacement,

(01:12:03):
and I think Eagles fans were as they were getting
ready for the drafts like, ooh, Mason Taylor would be
a fun second round pick to replace Godder. I don't
think he's going to fall that far. I don't have
any other options that I particularly like at thirty two.
Maybe I'm just not as studied up as I need
to be, and I do like this one because I
think they want that sort of player. I think eventually
he can develop like Dallas Goddter by the way, into

(01:12:26):
a good enough blocker or even a good blocker like
God or is God. It didn't come in as that guy.
And so that's a position that you're expecting development. You've
seen it from Taylor. The floor is high. Certainly is
going to be able to play and be a receiver.
And then you know, year three, year four, year five,
you're hoping you get that nasty out of him that
he reminds a lot of people of God her And
it really sounds like God might not be on this

(01:12:47):
roster next year, which is surprising to me. He might
be part of a draft day trade. So that is
how I'm wrapping up our first round. We did it,
Nate Tice, did we? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Did we?

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
We nailed it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
We did Oh. I thought you were saying that we
made it under a time a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Oh no, No, we're we're over that. But we did it.
We overhit, We finished it. We spent time together. First,
My brains worked hard. Do I want to do another mock?
We'll see, We'll see. If we do, maybe get the
whole gang together and we'll do one in the studio.
We would not ask Nate Tice to do any more
work during draft season. He's busy. In draft week he

(01:13:22):
will definitely be extra busy. So I would not ask you,
you know, any for draft week though, Oh you will
any NFL network work or not.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
It's Yahoo. But I'm trying to, like, you know, say hi.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
See what's over here. Yeah, that's interesting that Nate is
not allowed to gamble on football anymore because he does
Good Morning Football hit what once a week? You know,
three you know, So it's like there should be No,
it's not, that's not true, but there should be Like
you have to be a full time employee or you

(01:13:53):
have to like put in forty hours a week or
something like that. You're like, but I'm only doing like
thirty minutes a we you know, an hour a week
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
No, it's the one dollar one dollar thinking you take
one dollar of our money. Yeah, can gamble on sports.
See I thought the rules changed that it was just
I couldn't gamble on football. You need to get Yeah, No,
it's just sports. It sports again, which is why all
coaches and everybody are addicted to horse racing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Which in the NFL, which makes no sense. Why why
is that okay? And the answer is because one hundred
years ago, like the owners owned a bunch of horses
and you know even the Steelers back of the day,
like that's how they got that money famously, Yeah, the
Rooney is the Rooney Big day at the horse track
and then bought the Steelers quite an investment.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Uh they they biff handed it they.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Uh Nate. I always appreciate having you on again. Check
out Football at three oh one. We will be back
on Wednesday morning. Looking forward to this show. We're gonna
be talking with Nick Chuck. We're going to talk some
over unders are already out. We're gonna talk some offensive
line and yeah, when I'm going deep, like comparing Mason

(01:15:07):
Taylor to Dallas got her. Football is back.

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