February 6, 2025 • 36 mins
On the last edition of NFL Gameday View for the 2024-25 season, the crew breaks down all things Super Bowl with picks, prop bets, analysis and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Everybody, Welcome to Game Deview, presented by Caesar Sportsbook Patrick Claib.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm back here with Greg.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Rosenthal and Cynthia Freeland. This is a smile because it
happened thing, because this is the final one of the season,
because we're all got one football game left, Guys.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I am excited for it though.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
It's the two best teams and we also get to
celebrate the best of the best when it comes to
picking games. Here she is the Kansas City Chiefs of
Game Deview, Cynthia Freeland, wearing her Champagne colored shirt to
celebrate and dunk.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
On us didn't. I just like the shirt, guy, it
is great. I just thought it was cool.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's a nice shirt that the glass metaphor does a
whole true for Cynthia in the playoffs because she is
rocking the crown.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I guess Greg. Greg went double.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Like swings for the fences in conference championship week, so
that's why he is currently sitting at six and six.
So roll fifty seven wasn't eight games, So glad we
get to run it back for the rematch, we'll start
by talking about our players to watch on the Chiefs offense,
and I don't kick it off and discuss the oft
non discussed factor Patrick Mahomes, because sometimes he seemed like
a given, like the tides.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And their connection to the moon.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
But the fact that we have a planetary sized object
orbiting us that's the perfect distance for solar eclipses is
totally locked.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Just like a quarterback playing in his fifth Super Bowl
before he turns thirty years old.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
What are the differences? Though?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
In the playoffs hes scrambled on fifteen percent of his
dropbacks compared.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
To just five in the regular season.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's so difficult to just dial it up and be
a different football player in a different circumstance, But year
after year he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So yeah, he's the player to watch because he's Patrick Mahomes.
He feels obvious.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Well, you talk about him scrambling in the postseason. Some
changes we see from the regular to postseason. How about
Xavier Worthies opportunity here? Not only is he now the
motion man, the guy we see running ahead of the snap,
but also they've adjusted his average depth of target down,
so they're asking him to use a lot more yack.
That's where they're leveraging Xavier Worthy's speed. Before it was
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like over eleven air yards per attempt that was the target.
Now it's like less than half of that. So let's
see him in motion. Let's see what happens with the
ball in his hands. Let's see all that yak in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I don't think people realize how good Worthy is that
he could be to me as good of a player
as let's say, DeVonta Smith is like a future number
one type of guy.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
So she stole the guy I wanted.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
But when I was watching Xavier Worthy, I kept seeing
this other blinding light running down the field and his
name was Hollywood Brown, and it occurred to me for
the first time. All season, this Chiefs team was fast.
They were the slowest team in the NFL. They really
were all season long. And people are like, oh, the
Chiefs were playing Oki dok all season. We'll get into
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it throughout the course of this show. No, they're a
different team now than they were before. You have two
really fast receivers testing downfield coverage, and Marky sprown is
going to really determine this game.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Because Patrick then of the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's a dangerous situation.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
It could be up, it could be down. He could
have a big drop.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
As a Ravens fan, he was there watching sometimes when
Marky's Brown didn't make that catch. But I'm telling you
he has been getting open and his speed, combined with
worthy speed, has transformed this offense from a station to
station group to one that has a lot of explosion.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Let's flip it over to the defensive side of the ball.
Who do you have your eye on Cynthia as the
player to watch on defense?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Well, there's a lot to watch, but I'm looking specifically
at Justin Reid in this matchup, we know they're going
to have to account for sake one, we know that
they're going to have to account for outside the numbers
passes to aj Brown.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Well, what about the middle of the.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Field, what about where Dallas gutter might potentially be? We
know that this is the best tackling defense in the NFL.
If you're looking at the next gen stat that's how
many missed tackles or missed tackle rate, It is the
lowest for any team. It's like ten point seven percent,
so sub eleven percent. Now, what kind of holes and
what kind of sacrifices will you have to make?
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Are you going to blitz a lot?
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Are you going to drop back a little bit more hurt?
Speaker 7 (04:09):
Are you going to stack the box? What's going on?
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Well, you're going to need the guys in the back,
so you're going to need the safeties, you need the
course to really be playing chess when everyone's playing checkers.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
And Justin Reid also won the chess championship this year,
so I'm just.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Saying, wait, what chess championship.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Chess dot com does a chess championship. Every Drew Tranquill
won last year, Justin Reid ran won this year.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
So they're fast, best checkers.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
They're smart, and he was a guy who missed some
time this year too, So that's another reason why they're
better now than they were. Another reason is that Chris
Jones is playoff Chris Jones. We talk about Patrick Mahomes
and Andy Reid and Spags is kind of the three
weight buried walls of the Chiefs. You got to put
Chris Jones in that mix. I'm not saying he's doing
an okie doke, but I do think Chris Jones in
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the playoffs and Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs are even better.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
They're breaking out things he didn't see.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
And what we saw from Chris Jones in the first
half of that Bills game was a game changing, game
winning performance. He helped get them that lead.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
And he's so.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Rare because he's out there on the edge beating tackles
like Spencer Brown, who's a great player one on one,
so he'll be inside, he'll be outside.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
He's the rare guy who can make an Eagles offensive
lineman look bad as good as they are.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, there's one person on this show that we refer
to as a person who doesn't occasionally tell the truth.
I'm calling on the entire Chiefs roster when they talk
about all we don't think about the three feet To
be able to have this level sustained success, you have
to prepare your bodies and be willing to change things
up to be here in the playoffs. Chris Jones, Patrick Mahomes,
I'll fall into that. A guy who made a big
play in the last Super Bowl, Nick Bolton. We think
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about the Eagles and the Chiefs flying up and down
the field in the second half, it was Nick Bolton
picking up that ball. Of course, as Andy Reid said,
don't open any night.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Ball's not round.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
They bounced sometimes they bounced directly to Nick Bolton. I
think if Nick Bolton playing against this Eagles run attack,
not just Saquon, but all of the connections that they
play with up front.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
If they are wrong a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Twenty six is run into the end zone by himself,
they have to have an A game. If they have
a B game, I think the Chiefs don't have an
opportunity here.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
So I think Nick Bolton is is my player to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Let's move on, take a peek at the Super Bowl
leading receiver odds. Travis Kelcey, of course, had the big
one last time out. AJ Brown the odds on favorite
at plus one pint eighty to lead the game in
receiving the Xavier worthy a Hanse Smith down there. So
let's discuss Cynthia Who's going to be the game's top
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pass catcher.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Well, I'm gonna go a little chalky here, and I'm
going to say that it is in fact AJ Brown
in large part because of what we've seen outside the numbers,
especially in recent games, those outside of the numbers passes
have been where Jalen Hurts has been on a freaking heater,
and that's where aj Brown will have a huge physical
mismatch against pretty much anyone in the league that tries
to match up against him, but especially if number twenty
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two Trent mcdohughey isn't on him, that's where he'll had
a chance to absolutely eat. But again, outside of the
numbers passes, that's.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Going to be a difference maker in this one.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, I'm going Xavier Worthy because he's the guy catching
the passes from Patrick Mahomes and he's the clear one
right now in his number is one that tud It's true,
he's just gonna get a lot of targets. They really
scheme their offense up to specifically get Xavier Worthy looks
in a way that I don't think they will for
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any other player on that team.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
He is making contested catches, he.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Has the faith of his head coach and his quarterback,
which I don't think he had early in the season.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And even though nobody asked me, just.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Like for a little underdog pick, Dallas Goddard's kind of
sneaky in there at plus eight hundred. If you were
going to go on the other side, I think that
would be like a fun underdog.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, what about the guy who was the leading receiver
for the Philadelphia Eagles in this game in Super Bowl
fifty seven back in Glendale. Now DeVante Smith is in
his home state of Louisiana. He probably has a similar performance,
going for over one hundred yards. He's played against the
Spags chief defense three times in his career, one of
the being in the Super Bowl. The totals are three
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hundred and twenty one yards in those three games. I
think DeVante Smith is a leading receiver.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's a surprise. We're not going to tell people.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Let's die been to some fun prop bets with some
quick picks here on game Dave, you first won, Cynthia.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Will the opening coin toss be heads or tails?
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Well it's tails?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Why?
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Well, just so you know, in fifty eight Super Bowls,
thirty times it's in tails, twenty eight, it's been heads.
In the past six it's gone evenly heads and tails.
I don't actually have any reason other than I just
prefer tails him fails. It's a lot of fun. But
you can tell your friends thirty tails, twenty eight heads.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
You'll be the hit of your party.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's like those people staring intently at the history on
the Roulett wheel.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
What do we think about the first Goddess? Core? Greg?
Will his jersey number be higher than ten and a half?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I'm saying no, we Gonta Smith, we got Zavier Worthy,
Xavier one, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Jalen Hurts was what did it for?
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Twenty six?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Though? Is twenty six is a high number?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
But you know who scored more rushing touchdowns than twenty
six this year?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Who?
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Number one?
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Does it count if it's a passing touchdout? I guess
not either receiver? Do we have any receivers under other
than well?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It's six? But then I think becomes a problem.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Yeah, eleven becomes a really big problem.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
I went with the numbers here, eleven, twenty six, eighty seven.
I just went with how many people I think could
catch a touchdown, and that's why I went with more higher.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, but Greg, Greg's got Hollywood good.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I'm going to number five, Hollywood Brown tig.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Play love it, make it as painful as possible. Who's
gonna go for to Cynthia? Will there be a successful
two point conversion on Sunday in New Orleans?
Speaker 6 (09:30):
The answer is Yes, this is the year of two
point conversions. This is the year where the analytics says,
actually just means we're going forward on I don't know,
fourth down two point conversions, all of these things. I
think the two point conversion will be a strategic point.
We all agree across the board meme alert us away
you anti two point conversion people, We are.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Saying yes to this one.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Shout out to the production crew, hight them and everyone
back there for bringing back these great memories of all
the influential two point conversions, right which led to that Patriots,
Falcons come back and some big ones obviously in Chiefs Eagles.
I think there's some analysis to be made here, which
is that these are two teams that have found the
religion on fourth down and to be two point conversions
very close to similar down.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You're gonna go for it.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, they're very good at it as well. It helps.
It can't be bad. It just go for it.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
You have to be good at it, yeah, because you're
probably not scoring the touchdown in the first place. If
that's the case. On the gatoray bath, fantastic tradition. We
love it. We're powered by it.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Greg what color is it going to be for the
winning car?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Well, every year I picked green. This year they didn't
even give me an option as green.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I'm colorblind.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Another way of the NFL really doesn't think about our
color blind people out there.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I'm going blue, though, we're going blue.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
I don't know if it's the freeze blue or it's
just blue. They have a couple of different shades of blue,
so that gave is blue an advantage.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
So here's the thing I need.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
To tell you.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
The last time the Eagles won, it was yellow. The
past two seasons it was purple for the Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Does that change anything for you, Greg.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
No, this is a ridiculous question.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
But orange, if you really think about fade orange, it's
not gonna be orange.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Drop things if like you really drilled down to it.
Because I hear someone say like, oh, Mahomes has hit
his rushing prop five out of six. I mean, there's
probably not any more indicative than yellow or blue size.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I think people are superstitious and the orange. Then the
next year when they lost the Super Bowl, I heard
a rumor it's orange there too.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
So I'm thinking fade orange.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
But yellow was.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
The Eagles last time.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Different regime, But if you really think it's the cheese
probably purple superstition.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Three year old.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Maybe get some insight in what the player said on
their favorite Gatorade flavor, because the one that gets dumped
on the coach is the one that didn't get consumed.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
During the game.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So something considered last year's Super Bowl went to overtime,
Well this year somethingle no oh.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I mean, look, we've had a couple recently, but I
think in this game it's gonna come down to a
game winning drive. But I don't necessarily think it will
be extra football. I think we are ending with sixty
minutes of regulation.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I like the the no, the no right there for
New Orleans. It's style lies, It's beautiful. We got a
lot of work to do here. It's a central time
zone game. We're gonna have postgame coverage, We're gonna do
an NFL Daily podcast. Let's have a great game in regulation.
We don't need any overtime.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's like those rules, sixty minutes for the rest of
our lives. Before we go, we gotta go backwards, we
gotta go way back. In Week one, one of us
nailed their Super Bowl prediction. The other two not so much. Well,
we did see them before because you said they were
going to happen, so they happened.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
Congratulation, Blind girl finds a nut wining the picks.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
If you had actually put down that that prop of
this exact matchup, you wouldn't even be watching right now
because you'd be so rich.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We's forty five hundred at the start of the season.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I'm bad, not bad, A pretty solid pick.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Time for home field advantage presented by Zillow DeVante Smith's
hometown of Amy City, just an hour outside of New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
A fun fact, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
On the Amy River, which they call it the Emit
River in Mississippi, so the name changes as it goes
through Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
It's Amy. So it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
A homecoming for Smitty, the Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
But what's his number going to be?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Cynthia Well Davonte Smith have over or under fifty one
and a half receiving yards on Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Oh, I really like that one. My model has like
fifty six. You know, I'm a conservative modeler.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
I think this could be one where we see one
of these deep catches for at least nineteen and a
half yards all in one play.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
In fact, I really.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Like that if you're picking up what I'm putting down,
but ultimately over fifty one and a half total yards,
foh show.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I think one difference between this Chiefs team now in
a couple of years ago is the questions at the
outside cornerback position. You know McDuffie's good there, but he's
better in the slot. So when he is in the slot,
then Jalen Watson, who's returned, I just don't think they're
maybe as strong as they were a couple of years
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back when it was Lagarious Snead out there each and
every day.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, having a couple of options definitely helps. So it's
going to be a lot on McVey. Speaking of Devonte Smith,
let's talk about some more guys on this Eagles offense
to watch.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Who do you have your eyes on?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Greg Well?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Why not start with the quarterback Jalen Hurts, who is
coming off his best game I thought of the season
in the Conference championship game. So let's just remember his
best game of his career I believe was in the
Super Bowl. His best game of this season is in
the Conference championship game. That's a big game player and
he is the biggest X factor in the entire game
because when he's getting rid of the ball quickly and
his time to throw in that NFC Championship was the
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second fastest since Week eight. In making quick decisions, He's
an accurate thrower, He's a very talented thrower, especially outside
the numbers, and he has good players around him.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
They're going to be very difficult to stop.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
But when he's holding on to the ball and he's
not making quick decisions, and maybe Spagnolo confuses the offensive
line or him, then things get a little hairy.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
But if you get that Jalen.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Hurts from the NFC Championship game, like watch out Eagles offense.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Yeah, I mean what happens with Jalen Hurts. The best
thing is the combination.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Just kind of like us, right, we need our teammates together.
Patrick's are O lying, You're Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I'm Saquon Barkley, and that's who I'm looking for in
this matchup. Obviously, I told you before the Chiefs are the.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Best tackling defense. But this guy is the yuck guy.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
This guy is the guy who's taking the ball to
the outside, taking the ball to the inside.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
Catching the ball.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
He's kind of the do everything guy, and now they're
giving him all of these yards before contact.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Have you seen those quads?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Do you know what happens when he gets a full
head of steam and then runs into you much harder
to bring down.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
There's so many.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Great stats about Saquon Barkley and so many fun things
that you could say, but the one that I'm looking
at specifically in this matchup is how many times, once
he's reached his full speed that he's been able to
get at least.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Five yards more after contact.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
And news alert, spoiler alert, it's even more than Derek
Henry this woo. It's by far and away the most.
That's why those explosive players are working. That's why he's
getting those extra you know, really long rushes.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, he almost doubles his yards before contact best season ever,
like double what he was able to do in his
best season against UH playing for the New York Giants.
I've got another piece of this offense, one that we
kind of sometimes forget, and that's Dallas Goddard and what
he brings for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Perhaps had the worst performance on Super Bowl Opening Night
when he was asked what his favorite Taylor Swift song,
and he said, don't go chasing waterfalls, Dallas. The name
of the song is just Waterfalls. Is a TLC song.
It's legendary. I'll give him an excuse because maybe we
show our age a little bit, but he is.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
He clearly thought of that one ahead of time.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
That's wrong in so many different in.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Many aspects, Taylor did cover unpretty one time if we're
talking about TLC songs. But either way, when Dallas Goddard
is running crossers, when the Philadelphia run game is going,
when DeVante is opening on the outside, AJ has options.
There's just so many options for Jalen Hurts to hurt you.
And you often forget about Dallas Goddard, but I think
he is a key aspect to the offense in this game.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Let's flip it over to the Eagles defense. Correct.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So many guys can make plays. Which one are you
watching the most?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
I'm gonna watch Milton Williams on the defensive line. He's
the defensive tackle next to Jalen Carter. We know Jalen
Carter is a difference maker and is gonna get double teams.
We know the edg Rushers have really improved. What I
think is getting missed is that Milton Williams has made
as much money as any player in the NFL with
his performance in these playoffs and really throughout the course
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of the season. I think you might have been the
best defensive player on the field in the NFC Championship game.
He was dominant, had a ton of game changing pressures,
really blowing up the backfield on passing downs and on
running downs. And if you're a great interior rusher and
you're getting one on ones, I think there could be
mismatches here against the guards of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
So keep an eye on Milton Williams.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
There's bigger names around him, but he could be that
game wrecker, And this happens in the Super Bowl, the
guy you didn't see coming, forcing Patrick Mahomes and that
running game to really have to speed up what they
want to do.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Well, you're talking about a guy who we you know,
he's kind of really taking a step forward this postseason.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Well, now I'm talking about two guys.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Who they don't even maybe know how important this moment
is because they're both rookies. And that's Quinnon Mitchell and
Cooper Dejen these defensive backs have totally changed that. They're
the difference makers to me in this matchup between what
happens two seasons ago and now. If you look at
Quinyon Mitchell, just don't throw the ball to him in
the playoffs. Specifically, you're way, way, way better off throwing
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the ball into the ground where you get to a
thirty nine point six passer rating than into his coverage.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
It's like three. It's like something like three, something crazy
like that.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
And then if you're looking at what happens in Nickel
whenever Cooper de Jean's been in, so when he came
in after week seven, Oh, it's just the fewest yards
allowed per attempt in the league when they're a Nickel.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
No big deal.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
But I think we were talking about, you know, all
the different ways Jade Deal's might not realize how hard it.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Is to get to where he's going.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
I don't know if these two guys know how hard
it is to get where they're going. And if you
can get that pressure up front and back it up
with these guys in the back, that's going to be
really hard on the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, especially considering Patrick Mahomes attempted a career high, almost
league high in terms of passes behind the line of scrimmage.
I think it's big for Cooper Degen in that aspect.
You got a couple of rookies. I'll take a second
year guy in Nolan Smith, and we saw the type
of trouble that the Eagles made for the Commanders on
the edge with Jadon Daniels, who know what he was
able to deal with on the edge all season long.
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I think you have to be able to make the
decision process a little bit quicker for Patrick Mahomes win
he's out on the edge making plays, especially late in games.
And Nolan Smith has that speed and that ability to
cause that fraction of a second that I think can
lead that secondary to make some play. So Nolan Smith
will be my field of the Eagle defending.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, Jaden Daniels shoe off during that game, that's how fast.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
That's tough. Pull his flag much. Let's get a shoe
off up next.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
We're putting the biggest stars in Super Bowl fifty.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Nine head to head.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
They don't get to do that on the field.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Mahomes versus Hurts, Kelsey versus Goddard say Quadi is literally
anybody who's ready to light up the scoreboard, we'll tell
you when we come back on Game DEVIUT it's time
for Expert Playmakers, presented by Intuit Turbo tex As we
discuss some player pops.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
So some big.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Quarterback show down between Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts. Greg
which quarterback is going to throw for more touchdowns on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I mean, I've got a lot of Eagles choices here,
but what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
It's Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
It's the greatest player I've ever seen enter the league,
and he always plays his best in these games. And
it's just much more of a pass first offense. It's
more passing touchdowns Mahomes or Hurts. Now, if it was
more total touchdowns, that's a different prop, and that one
I might go in a different direction because of what
Jalen has done on the ground. But one of the
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things I've loved to see out of Mahomes in this postseason,
I think he's been more willing to go for big
plays and go for the kind of jaw drop been
big time throws that made us love him when he
first was coming up and won his first Super Bowl.
And it's not that he's not trying in the regular season,
but I do think he's a little more willing to
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try some things and take some risks in the postseason
that he doesn't in the regular all Right.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
So as for who those risks are going to?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Who has more receiving yards in the game for the Chief,
Cynthia Hollywood Brown or Nuke Hopkins.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
I know this is gonna sound crazy, but my answer
DeAndre Hopkins. Wow, large part because I think what Andy
Reid does is he finds those little plays here and
there all throughout.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
The season that he hasn't used in a long time.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
DeAndre Hopkins hasn't had the loudest postseason of any one
catch team.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Yeah, and you know what that means. Andy Reid knows
that too.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
So ultimately, I'm looking at the opportunity for DeAndre Hopkins
and his ability to come down with contested catches. His body,
the way his body type works, He's always along the perimeter,
He's always up in a ton of traffic. Do you
remember a game against the Bills once when he was
a you know, playing for Arizona.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
That a pretty nice catch.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Those are the types of things I think that they'll
be looking for in this matchup.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
All right, So he hasn't necessarily had a historic postseason
Saquon Barkley has. He's been on a historic run. So
the question is, what do you even compare for Saquon Barkley?
Who do we put head to head for Saquon the
entire Chiefs offense? Who will have more rushing yards? I
still think it's going to be Saquon Barkley, who is
two yards away from having the most pre Super Bowl
yards in playoff history. He was two yards behind John Riggins.
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Remember he checked one down, could have had that way
out of the way. He's thirty yards away from where
Sorell Davis was with the most yards in postseason history.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I think he gets that.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I believe in the Eagles defense, I think it's not close.
I think Saquon's going to outrush the entire Chiefs team.
So let's go back to Greg here. Who has more
receptions in the game? Travis Kelcey or Dallas Goddard.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Okay, I know Travis Kelsey always shows up in the
Super Bowl, but the numbers tell me it's Dallas godd Or.
What did the chief struggle to do more than anything
on office defense? Or special teams. It stopped the tight end.
It's one of the only things that they are truly
bad at. One of the worst teams in the league
in terms of success rate EPA per play up the
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middle of the spine where Jalen Hurts can find Dallas Godder,
and it's not just gonna be on those post routes.
It's gonna be on some of those screens. They love
to use Dallas Godder.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
After the Cats.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Heck, they had him in the backfield in the Conference
championship running the ball.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
That shows how much they trust them.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
So I'm going Dallas got it with a big one
on Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
All right, let's move on to some defensive player, Cynthia.
Which linebacker has more tackles in this game? Nick Bolton
or Zach Bond.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Well, what did we talk about when you said it?
You mentioned it the short passes behind the line of
scrimmage that Patrick Mahomes is doing out a historic rate
also runs. So my answer here is going to be
Zach Bond, especially with Nikobe Dan not playing. I like Ornbrooks,
let me be Cleary, and he's had a great postseason,
But I still think Zach Bond is extra. I mean,
there's a reason that he had the accolades he's had
all season long. But if you're talking about offending stuff
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in front of him, sorry, not going to get past him.
So I think it's I think it's Zach vond here
for more.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Tech got up to oron Burks or for him. He
was sneaky huge in that Super Bowl in a negative
way for the forty nine ers. So I just hope
that doesn't happen this time.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
What we're talking about Zach bond here, I believe it
got a little shit.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
The guys there.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I'm just oran Burks came in, made a huge play
in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I mean, there's there's opportunity. Revenge is always there.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Last one who has more sacks in this game two
very good interiorty lineman Chris Jones or Jalen Carter. I
am going to go with Jones here because it's so
difficult to get fifteen on the ground. Jalen Hurts might
hold onto the ball a little bit lead to a sack,
maybe too, maybe a.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Sack and a half.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Either way, I do think it's easier for Chris Jones
to get on the board, than it will be a
Jalen Carter who's going to have to deal with those
double teams. I mean, they both will, but I think
it's Chris Jones the guy who should have a Super
Bowl MVP. I try to say it every chance that
I am. Look at some totals in these Super Bowls
since twenty nineteen, the over has only hit once, but
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it was when the Chiefs played the Eagles in Super
Bowl fifty seven. They're in Glendale, so the total for
Super Bowl fifty nine is forty nine points.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It's time to discuss over under.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
We've got some foam fingers to dictate how we feel,
not dictate, to indicate how we feel about the scores.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
And in this game, I've got the over.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I've got fifty six points, and that feels that that
feels a little like relatively like conservative, but no easy
over for me.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm with you. I've got sixty three points.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
And you look at the last time these two teams
played in the Super Bowl, and then you just look
at the last games that these two teams played, the
Chiefs and the Bills. They got to sixty one and
that was freezing cold weather. The Commanders in the Eagles,
I actually can't even count that high. You gotta go
to Cynthia to figure out what like the total that
they got in this These are two offenses that I
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think are playing their very best offense wins championships. Don't
let anyone tell you differently. I think it's going to
be a high scoring game.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
I mean, I'm the most conservative amongst the three of us,
and I'm at fifty five, so I.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Too believe that it is.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
More than the total number with forty nine, whatever it is.
So I think this is going to be an interesting
one though, because both defenses are something.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
That we talk about.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
However, it's the masterminding of the offenses that really drives
us one.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
For me, all right, let's keep more or less going here.
As we get into some player props. Patrick Mahomes ran
for sixty six yards in last year's Super Bowl, Cynthia.
Does he run for over thirty yards on Sunday?
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Yes, he does.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
The model says at least thirty two and fifty percent
of simulations. If you look at just the year number
we've been talking about it, it's tripled threefold increase in
terms of number of rushing attempts, be they scrambles or not,
who cares. They all come as the same thing for
our purposes here. So I think this is going to
be a really good opportunity. Whenever his offense line, especially
on the left, is under a little bit of pressure.
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Run to the right, my friend, Run to the right.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
You know they got those three and a half weeks off,
and people wonder, well, is that going to be rust
And then I've watched Patrick Mahomes running faster than he's
run all season long.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I've seen Kareem Hunt look.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Like you just had a long vacation, which he essentially did,
and looking fresher. This is what happens when you're the
one seed and you only lose one game. Patrick Mahomes
actually picks up speed.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, rest is good breaking news. Let's go to receiving arcs.
Because AJ Brown is a spectacular wide receiver. The question
is only have more or less than seventy one and
a half receiving year.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I had to go yes.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Here I mentioned the outside advantage that I think Philadelphia
has in the passing game. I just don't think the
Chiefs are at their best covering those deep passes down
the field. Ultimately, aj Brown for much of this season
was a first team All Pro. To me, it was him,
it was JJ, it was Jamar. Chase got a little
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banged up, had some slow moments in the playoffs. We
needed assistant coach Brandon Graham to set things right for em.
Jalen Hurts, but he is smoking now. Coming into the
Super Bowl with a week off and coming off a
great af NFC championship game, I think he has a
big day.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I think if you kind of it makes sense, right,
logical sense. We all think a lot of points, we
all think a lot of scoring. If you're an under enthusiast,
that could be the one that I think maybe you
switched the Devonte Smith number for. But that's only if
you're an under enthusiast and who likes that Deander's no fun.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, take that, under enthusiast, I'll take the last one.
Will Travis Kelce's longest reception in the game be over
nineteen and a half yards?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Greg, I say, under.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I think it will be, And I'll tell you exactly.
I'll tell you exactly how it's going to happen. It's
going to be a second and seven. Travis Kelcey is
going to curl up about twelve yards away from the
line of scrimmage. He's going to catch the ball, He's
going to do what appears to be a glacially slow turn,
which is going to cause a defender to fall down,
and he's going to go for twenty two yards. That
is my prediction, because like taking the other side of
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this feels like something I would do at my peril.
But you know, as an under enthusiast, that.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Move has never not worked.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
It ever, every time Travis Kelcey just puts a little
bit of a fake to the right.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And then Carlson left, it works.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I don't know his nineteen and a half yards though,
It just takes a little longer than it used to.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
So I'm thinking about.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
The regular season, and maybe I shouldn't when there wasn't
a lot of explosive plays from Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, all the fast people were chasing him. But now
theyve as you pointed out, they've got more fast people
on the field that are more of an issue to cover.
When we come back, folks, we're gonna finally make our picks.
So who's gonna actually win Super Bowl fifty nine?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Have you been tracking each decision to say, well, I
think Cynthia's going with the Chiefs, or I think it's
the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Is Casey Dustin forward?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Three?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
P is never revenge for Philly? All that, plus who's
gonna win the MVP.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's coming up next on game debut. Oh, what a
beautiful opportunity and a beautiful play. Shout out to New Orleans, Louisiana,
the Caesar super Dome site of Super Bowl fifty nine,
and how appropriate it's Tom for us to seize the
season presented by Caesar Sportsbook. As we're looking at the
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first touchdown score odds on Sunday, Saquon and Jalen Hurts
leading the way, followed up by Kareem Hunt, Travis Kelsey
and Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Is we finally made it? Guys, it's Tom for us
to make You.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Looked at me with some consternation there, Greg.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
What was I'm still trying to decide what my pick
is going to be?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Like?
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Oh got it?
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Okay, He's like looked over like moment, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Mean, we gotta run down.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But Greg's a wildcard. He can make a change at
any point. As we get to our picks, the Chiefs
looking to become the first team in history to win
three consecutive Super Bowls, Jalen Hurts and Saquon trying to
get their first winning rings.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Who is winning Super Bowl fifty nine? Greg Rosenthal?
Speaker 4 (30:57):
It has to be the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Thirty three to thirty is the score. When you think
about the NFL lately, maybe you're thinking it's all a
little too similar. Four of the last six years in
the Super Bowl, it's been either forty nine Ers Chiefs
or Eagles Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
So what do you do to change that up?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
You add a new player to the dynamic, and that
player has defined that season this season, and that player
is Saquon Barkley. In the same way that Patrick Mahomes
came into our lives and won that MVP back in
twenty eighteen and then won the Super Bowl in twenty nineteen,
Saquon Barkley has come to this Eagles team and he's
changed the entire landscape. They are the most talented team
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in the NFL if you go through the rosters at
most positions, I'm taking Eagles over Chiefs, but they haven't
been able to match them in terms of their best player.
And I know It's a running back, and running backs
don't matter as much as quarterbacks. But this running back
plus this offensive line in this season does matter just
as much as Patrick Mahomes and Saquon Barkley has had
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a season we will be talking about for the rest
of our lives. And the only way that that season
can finish is with him up on the podium winning
that MVP Award. With like one hundred and seventy total
yards from scrimmage thirty three to thirty.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
The Eagles get it done.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
I don't know how I can follow that.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
However, I do have a one point win for the Eagles.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
My model a little bit surprised me. I guess if
I'm picking with my gut, I would have gone with
the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
However, the model has twenty eight to twenty seven. Same
model that got me here, same model that went about
seventy two percent for the season. So I have to
trust it here.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
On this one. I had to get that in. They're
just in the one.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
And that got you Eagles Chiefs before this season.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Hey, you know, But ultimately to me, Dallas.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Goddard is one of the biggest difference makers. Greg talked
about it earlier this is an area where the Chiefs
have a weakness. And if there's one thing that I
think is going to be hard, it's picking your poison.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
Which poison are you going to pick?
Speaker 6 (32:53):
You to pick the aj Brown poison, take one, to
take one Barkley poison that Ivanta Smith that you're.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Gonna have to pick one.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
And Dallas Goddard to me, has the best opportunity to
be in the spot right where Jalen Hurts needs him
at the moment that he needs.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
Him, with just enough time.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
And I mean, if they're going to give him that
much separation, then maybe it's a lot of Dallas gotter,
but ultimately that's going to be a different surprise.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
The model won't with the Eagles. Now you gotta go
Chiefs here.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Well, I mean we cannot be given a Memeler against
the best team of all time.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
It's important to have differences, and I think a lot
of things are different than the last time the Eagles
played the Chiefs, but we're not different in our picks.
Winning a wow Argan than Cynthia and Greg. I've got
thirty two to twenty because Vic Fanjo isn't coming in
as a consultant he's actually coordinated this defense. Quinnon, Mitchell, Cooper, Dejean,
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all these guys were not Eagles. But it's Nolan Smith,
it is Jalen Carter. It's a couple of dogs, and
I think are the reason that the Eagles are winning
this game because, as Greg pointed out, there's just a good,
solid team positioned by position all across the board. And yes,
like there is samness, the Chiefs are good. Patrick Mahomes
is still a rare and good quarterback. But sometimes you
lose games. So sometimes we lose games because there's an
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overwhelming talent differential, and I think.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
That talent differential.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
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the Eagles win the Super Bowl. As we all selected
who's going to win the MVP, here are the odds.
Patrick Mahomes of course the far and away favorite, and
then Saquon and Jalen Hurts. So let us make our
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picks for the Super Bowl fifty nine MVP.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Who is yours? Greg Wilson.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
I just made a whole big speech about how saquin
and Barclay is going to be holding the the MVP,
But actually I'm going to Jalen Hurts for this question.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
He's the quarterback. I like the odds better.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
It's more about the value you have a running back
there as a pretty heavy favorite to be the MVP.
I do think people get into narratives. Barkley would be
a great narrative. But if Jalen Hurts puts together like
a two hundred and fifty yard two touchdown type of game,
I think everyone would really get on board with. Hey,
let's give this quarterback his shine. He has been so
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important for this team. Quarterbacks almost always win this award.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Let's go Jalen.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And you know, Jalen Hurts already has like a rolodex
of very hard quotes that people are gonna put on
Instagram if he gets that award, which Cindya generally goes
to quarterback, Like you have to do something really special
to win this award as a not quarterback.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Thirty three quarterbacks, eight wide receivers, seven running backs, only
ten total defensive players. Ever, but I'm thinking Jalen Carter,
might you are eleventh in these MVP. Why Well, we
know that the old line is an issue, and I
know Jalen Carter kind of lines up not in the
area on the left side, he'd be on the offensive right. However,
he can be such a huge wrecking ball that he
could even make Creed Humphrey look like not as good
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as a player as he is, and Humphrey is electric.
So when I'm looking at the opportunity here to go
a little off menu, to go a little bit value shopping,
to go a little bit of upside looking, I'm going
for Jalen Carter because we know the quarterbacks probably are
going to get it sake one probably after.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
That, but why not be fun? We like fun. Jalen Carter?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
All right, So we got two quarterback picks there, myself
and Greg and Cynthia going off the board with a
defensive lineman. Thanks for watching Game debut presented by Caesar
Sportsbook All season. We hope you enjoy Super Bowl fifty
nine for Cynthia and greg I Patrick, See you next year.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Everybody, Welcome to Game Deview, presented by Caesar Sportsbook Patrick Claib.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm back here with Greg.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Rosenthal and Cynthia Freeland. This is a smile because it
happened thing, because this is the final one of the season,
because we're all got one football game left, Guys.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I am excited for it though.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
It's the two best teams and we also get to
celebrate the best of the best when it comes to
picking games. Here she is the Kansas City Chiefs of
Game Deview, Cynthia Freeland, wearing her Champagne colored shirt to
celebrate and dunk.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
On us didn't. I just like the shirt, guy, it
is great. I just thought it was cool.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's a nice shirt that the glass metaphor does a
whole true for Cynthia in the playoffs because she is
rocking the crown.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I guess Greg. Greg went double.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Like swings for the fences in conference championship week, so
that's why he is currently sitting at six and six.
So roll fifty seven wasn't eight games, So glad we
get to run it back for the rematch, we'll start
by talking about our players to watch on the Chiefs offense,
and I don't kick it off and discuss the oft
non discussed factor Patrick Mahomes, because sometimes he seemed like
a given, like the tides.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And their connection to the moon.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
But the fact that we have a planetary sized object
orbiting us that's the perfect distance for solar eclipses is
totally locked.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Just like a quarterback playing in his fifth Super Bowl
before he turns thirty years old.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
What are the differences? Though?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
In the playoffs hes scrambled on fifteen percent of his
dropbacks compared.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
To just five in the regular season.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's so difficult to just dial it up and be
a different football player in a different circumstance, But year
after year he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So yeah, he's the player to watch because he's Patrick Mahomes.
He feels obvious.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Well, you talk about him scrambling in the postseason. Some
changes we see from the regular to postseason. How about
Xavier Worthies opportunity here? Not only is he now the
motion man, the guy we see running ahead of the snap,
but also they've adjusted his average depth of target down,
so they're asking him to use a lot more yack.
That's where they're leveraging Xavier Worthy's speed. Before it was
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like over eleven air yards per attempt that was the target.
Now it's like less than half of that. So let's
see him in motion. Let's see what happens with the
ball in his hands. Let's see all that yak in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I don't think people realize how good Worthy is that
he could be to me as good of a player
as let's say, DeVonta Smith is like a future number
one type of guy.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
So she stole the guy I wanted.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
But when I was watching Xavier Worthy, I kept seeing
this other blinding light running down the field and his
name was Hollywood Brown, and it occurred to me for
the first time. All season, this Chiefs team was fast.
They were the slowest team in the NFL. They really
were all season long. And people are like, oh, the
Chiefs were playing Oki dok all season. We'll get into
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it throughout the course of this show. No, they're a
different team now than they were before. You have two
really fast receivers testing downfield coverage, and Marky sprown is
going to really determine this game.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Because Patrick then of the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's a dangerous situation.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
It could be up, it could be down. He could
have a big drop.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
As a Ravens fan, he was there watching sometimes when
Marky's Brown didn't make that catch. But I'm telling you
he has been getting open and his speed, combined with
worthy speed, has transformed this offense from a station to
station group to one that has a lot of explosion.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Let's flip it over to the defensive side of the ball.
Who do you have your eye on Cynthia as the
player to watch on defense?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Well, there's a lot to watch, but I'm looking specifically
at Justin Reid in this matchup, we know they're going
to have to account for sake one, we know that
they're going to have to account for outside the numbers
passes to aj Brown.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Well, what about the middle of the.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Field, what about where Dallas gutter might potentially be? We
know that this is the best tackling defense in the NFL.
If you're looking at the next gen stat that's how
many missed tackles or missed tackle rate, It is the
lowest for any team. It's like ten point seven percent,
so sub eleven percent. Now, what kind of holes and
what kind of sacrifices will you have to make?
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Are you going to blitz a lot?
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Are you going to drop back a little bit more hurt?
Speaker 7 (04:09):
Are you going to stack the box? What's going on?
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Well, you're going to need the guys in the back,
so you're going to need the safeties, you need the
course to really be playing chess when everyone's playing checkers.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
And Justin Reid also won the chess championship this year,
so I'm just.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Saying, wait, what chess championship.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Chess dot com does a chess championship. Every Drew Tranquill
won last year, Justin Reid ran won this year.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
So they're fast, best checkers.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
They're smart, and he was a guy who missed some
time this year too, So that's another reason why they're
better now than they were. Another reason is that Chris
Jones is playoff Chris Jones. We talk about Patrick Mahomes
and Andy Reid and Spags is kind of the three
weight buried walls of the Chiefs. You got to put
Chris Jones in that mix. I'm not saying he's doing
an okie doke, but I do think Chris Jones in
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the playoffs and Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs are even better.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
They're breaking out things he didn't see.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
And what we saw from Chris Jones in the first
half of that Bills game was a game changing, game
winning performance. He helped get them that lead.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
And he's so.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Rare because he's out there on the edge beating tackles
like Spencer Brown, who's a great player one on one,
so he'll be inside, he'll be outside.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
He's the rare guy who can make an Eagles offensive
lineman look bad as good as they are.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, there's one person on this show that we refer
to as a person who doesn't occasionally tell the truth.
I'm calling on the entire Chiefs roster when they talk
about all we don't think about the three feet To
be able to have this level sustained success, you have
to prepare your bodies and be willing to change things
up to be here in the playoffs. Chris Jones, Patrick Mahomes,
I'll fall into that. A guy who made a big
play in the last Super Bowl, Nick Bolton. We think
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about the Eagles and the Chiefs flying up and down
the field in the second half, it was Nick Bolton
picking up that ball. Of course, as Andy Reid said,
don't open any night.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Ball's not round.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
They bounced sometimes they bounced directly to Nick Bolton. I
think if Nick Bolton playing against this Eagles run attack,
not just Saquon, but all of the connections that they
play with up front.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
If they are wrong a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Twenty six is run into the end zone by himself,
they have to have an A game. If they have
a B game, I think the Chiefs don't have an
opportunity here.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
So I think Nick Bolton is is my player to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Let's move on, take a peek at the Super Bowl
leading receiver odds. Travis Kelcey, of course, had the big
one last time out. AJ Brown the odds on favorite
at plus one pint eighty to lead the game in
receiving the Xavier worthy a Hanse Smith down there. So
let's discuss Cynthia Who's going to be the game's top
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pass catcher.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Well, I'm gonna go a little chalky here, and I'm
going to say that it is in fact AJ Brown
in large part because of what we've seen outside the numbers,
especially in recent games, those outside of the numbers passes
have been where Jalen Hurts has been on a freaking heater,
and that's where aj Brown will have a huge physical
mismatch against pretty much anyone in the league that tries
to match up against him, but especially if number twenty
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two Trent mcdohughey isn't on him, that's where he'll had
a chance to absolutely eat. But again, outside of the
numbers passes, that's.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Going to be a difference maker in this one.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, I'm going Xavier Worthy because he's the guy catching
the passes from Patrick Mahomes and he's the clear one
right now in his number is one that tud It's true,
he's just gonna get a lot of targets. They really
scheme their offense up to specifically get Xavier Worthy looks
in a way that I don't think they will for
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any other player on that team.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
He is making contested catches, he.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Has the faith of his head coach and his quarterback,
which I don't think he had early in the season.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And even though nobody asked me, just.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Like for a little underdog pick, Dallas Goddard's kind of
sneaky in there at plus eight hundred. If you were
going to go on the other side, I think that
would be like a fun underdog.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, what about the guy who was the leading receiver
for the Philadelphia Eagles in this game in Super Bowl
fifty seven back in Glendale. Now DeVante Smith is in
his home state of Louisiana. He probably has a similar performance,
going for over one hundred yards. He's played against the
Spags chief defense three times in his career, one of
the being in the Super Bowl. The totals are three
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hundred and twenty one yards in those three games. I
think DeVante Smith is a leading receiver.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's a surprise. We're not going to tell people.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Let's die been to some fun prop bets with some
quick picks here on game Dave, you first won, Cynthia.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Will the opening coin toss be heads or tails?
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Well it's tails?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Why?
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Well, just so you know, in fifty eight Super Bowls,
thirty times it's in tails, twenty eight, it's been heads.
In the past six it's gone evenly heads and tails.
I don't actually have any reason other than I just
prefer tails him fails. It's a lot of fun. But
you can tell your friends thirty tails, twenty eight heads.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
You'll be the hit of your party.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's like those people staring intently at the history on
the Roulett wheel.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
What do we think about the first Goddess? Core? Greg?
Will his jersey number be higher than ten and a half?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I'm saying no, we Gonta Smith, we got Zavier Worthy,
Xavier one, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Jalen Hurts was what did it for?
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Twenty six?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Though? Is twenty six is a high number?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
But you know who scored more rushing touchdowns than twenty
six this year?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Who?
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Number one?
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Does it count if it's a passing touchdout? I guess
not either receiver? Do we have any receivers under other
than well?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It's six? But then I think becomes a problem.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Yeah, eleven becomes a really big problem.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
I went with the numbers here, eleven, twenty six, eighty seven.
I just went with how many people I think could
catch a touchdown, and that's why I went with more higher.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, but Greg, Greg's got Hollywood good.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I'm going to number five, Hollywood Brown tig.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Play love it, make it as painful as possible. Who's
gonna go for to Cynthia? Will there be a successful
two point conversion on Sunday in New Orleans?
Speaker 6 (09:30):
The answer is Yes, this is the year of two
point conversions. This is the year where the analytics says,
actually just means we're going forward on I don't know,
fourth down two point conversions, all of these things. I
think the two point conversion will be a strategic point.
We all agree across the board meme alert us away
you anti two point conversion people, We are.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Saying yes to this one.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Shout out to the production crew, hight them and everyone
back there for bringing back these great memories of all
the influential two point conversions, right which led to that Patriots,
Falcons come back and some big ones obviously in Chiefs Eagles.
I think there's some analysis to be made here, which
is that these are two teams that have found the
religion on fourth down and to be two point conversions
very close to similar down.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You're gonna go for it.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, they're very good at it as well. It helps.
It can't be bad. It just go for it.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
You have to be good at it, yeah, because you're
probably not scoring the touchdown in the first place. If
that's the case. On the gatoray bath, fantastic tradition. We
love it. We're powered by it.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Greg what color is it going to be for the
winning car?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Well, every year I picked green. This year they didn't
even give me an option as green.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I'm colorblind.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Another way of the NFL really doesn't think about our
color blind people out there.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I'm going blue, though, we're going blue.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
I don't know if it's the freeze blue or it's
just blue. They have a couple of different shades of blue,
so that gave is blue an advantage.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
So here's the thing I need.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
To tell you.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
The last time the Eagles won, it was yellow. The
past two seasons it was purple for the Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Does that change anything for you, Greg.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
No, this is a ridiculous question.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
But orange, if you really think about fade orange, it's
not gonna be orange.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Drop things if like you really drilled down to it.
Because I hear someone say like, oh, Mahomes has hit
his rushing prop five out of six. I mean, there's
probably not any more indicative than yellow or blue size.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I think people are superstitious and the orange. Then the
next year when they lost the Super Bowl, I heard
a rumor it's orange there too.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
So I'm thinking fade orange.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
But yellow was.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
The Eagles last time.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Different regime, But if you really think it's the cheese
probably purple superstition.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Three year old.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Maybe get some insight in what the player said on
their favorite Gatorade flavor, because the one that gets dumped
on the coach is the one that didn't get consumed.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
During the game.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So something considered last year's Super Bowl went to overtime,
Well this year somethingle no oh.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I mean, look, we've had a couple recently, but I
think in this game it's gonna come down to a
game winning drive. But I don't necessarily think it will
be extra football. I think we are ending with sixty
minutes of regulation.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I like the the no, the no right there for
New Orleans. It's style lies, It's beautiful. We got a
lot of work to do here. It's a central time
zone game. We're gonna have postgame coverage, We're gonna do
an NFL Daily podcast. Let's have a great game in regulation.
We don't need any overtime.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's like those rules, sixty minutes for the rest of
our lives. Before we go, we gotta go backwards, we
gotta go way back. In Week one, one of us
nailed their Super Bowl prediction. The other two not so much. Well,
we did see them before because you said they were
going to happen, so they happened.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
Congratulation, Blind girl finds a nut wining the picks.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
If you had actually put down that that prop of
this exact matchup, you wouldn't even be watching right now
because you'd be so rich.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We's forty five hundred at the start of the season.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I'm bad, not bad, A pretty solid pick.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Time for home field advantage presented by Zillow DeVante Smith's
hometown of Amy City, just an hour outside of New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
A fun fact, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
On the Amy River, which they call it the Emit
River in Mississippi, so the name changes as it goes
through Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
It's Amy. So it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
A homecoming for Smitty, the Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
But what's his number going to be?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Cynthia Well Davonte Smith have over or under fifty one
and a half receiving yards on Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Oh, I really like that one. My model has like
fifty six. You know, I'm a conservative modeler.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
I think this could be one where we see one
of these deep catches for at least nineteen and a
half yards all in one play.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
In fact, I really.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Like that if you're picking up what I'm putting down,
but ultimately over fifty one and a half total yards,
foh show.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I think one difference between this Chiefs team now in
a couple of years ago is the questions at the
outside cornerback position. You know McDuffie's good there, but he's
better in the slot. So when he is in the slot,
then Jalen Watson, who's returned, I just don't think they're
maybe as strong as they were a couple of years
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back when it was Lagarious Snead out there each and
every day.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, having a couple of options definitely helps. So it's
going to be a lot on McVey. Speaking of Devonte Smith,
let's talk about some more guys on this Eagles offense
to watch.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Who do you have your eyes on?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Greg Well?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Why not start with the quarterback Jalen Hurts, who is
coming off his best game I thought of the season
in the Conference championship game. So let's just remember his
best game of his career I believe was in the
Super Bowl. His best game of this season is in
the Conference championship game. That's a big game player and
he is the biggest X factor in the entire game
because when he's getting rid of the ball quickly and
his time to throw in that NFC Championship was the
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second fastest since Week eight. In making quick decisions, He's
an accurate thrower, He's a very talented thrower, especially outside
the numbers, and he has good players around him.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
They're going to be very difficult to stop.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
But when he's holding on to the ball and he's
not making quick decisions, and maybe Spagnolo confuses the offensive
line or him, then things get a little hairy.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
But if you get that Jalen.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Hurts from the NFC Championship game, like watch out Eagles offense.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Yeah, I mean what happens with Jalen Hurts. The best
thing is the combination.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Just kind of like us, right, we need our teammates together.
Patrick's are O lying, You're Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I'm Saquon Barkley, and that's who I'm looking for in
this matchup. Obviously, I told you before the Chiefs are the.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Best tackling defense. But this guy is the yuck guy.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
This guy is the guy who's taking the ball to
the outside, taking the ball to the inside.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
Catching the ball.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
He's kind of the do everything guy, and now they're
giving him all of these yards before contact.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Have you seen those quads?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Do you know what happens when he gets a full
head of steam and then runs into you much harder
to bring down.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
There's so many.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Great stats about Saquon Barkley and so many fun things
that you could say, but the one that I'm looking
at specifically in this matchup is how many times, once
he's reached his full speed that he's been able to
get at least.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Five yards more after contact.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
And news alert, spoiler alert, it's even more than Derek
Henry this woo. It's by far and away the most.
That's why those explosive players are working. That's why he's
getting those extra you know, really long rushes.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, he almost doubles his yards before contact best season ever,
like double what he was able to do in his
best season against UH playing for the New York Giants.
I've got another piece of this offense, one that we
kind of sometimes forget, and that's Dallas Goddard and what
he brings for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Perhaps had the worst performance on Super Bowl Opening Night
when he was asked what his favorite Taylor Swift song,
and he said, don't go chasing waterfalls, Dallas. The name
of the song is just Waterfalls. Is a TLC song.
It's legendary. I'll give him an excuse because maybe we
show our age a little bit, but he is.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
He clearly thought of that one ahead of time.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
That's wrong in so many different in.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Many aspects, Taylor did cover unpretty one time if we're
talking about TLC songs. But either way, when Dallas Goddard
is running crossers, when the Philadelphia run game is going,
when DeVante is opening on the outside, AJ has options.
There's just so many options for Jalen Hurts to hurt you.
And you often forget about Dallas Goddard, but I think
he is a key aspect to the offense in this game.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Let's flip it over to the Eagles defense. Correct.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
So many guys can make plays. Which one are you
watching the most?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
I'm gonna watch Milton Williams on the defensive line. He's
the defensive tackle next to Jalen Carter. We know Jalen
Carter is a difference maker and is gonna get double teams.
We know the edg Rushers have really improved. What I
think is getting missed is that Milton Williams has made
as much money as any player in the NFL with
his performance in these playoffs and really throughout the course
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of the season. I think you might have been the
best defensive player on the field in the NFC Championship game.
He was dominant, had a ton of game changing pressures,
really blowing up the backfield on passing downs and on
running downs. And if you're a great interior rusher and
you're getting one on ones, I think there could be
mismatches here against the guards of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
So keep an eye on Milton Williams.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
There's bigger names around him, but he could be that
game wrecker, And this happens in the Super Bowl, the
guy you didn't see coming, forcing Patrick Mahomes and that
running game to really have to speed up what they
want to do.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Well, you're talking about a guy who we you know,
he's kind of really taking a step forward this postseason.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Well, now I'm talking about two guys.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Who they don't even maybe know how important this moment
is because they're both rookies. And that's Quinnon Mitchell and
Cooper Dejen these defensive backs have totally changed that. They're
the difference makers to me in this matchup between what
happens two seasons ago and now. If you look at
Quinyon Mitchell, just don't throw the ball to him in
the playoffs. Specifically, you're way, way, way better off throwing
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the ball into the ground where you get to a
thirty nine point six passer rating than into his coverage.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
It's like three. It's like something like three, something crazy
like that.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
And then if you're looking at what happens in Nickel
whenever Cooper de Jean's been in, so when he came
in after week seven, Oh, it's just the fewest yards
allowed per attempt in the league when they're a Nickel.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
No big deal.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
But I think we were talking about, you know, all
the different ways Jade Deal's might not realize how hard it.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Is to get to where he's going.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
I don't know if these two guys know how hard
it is to get where they're going. And if you
can get that pressure up front and back it up
with these guys in the back, that's going to be
really hard on the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, especially considering Patrick Mahomes attempted a career high, almost
league high in terms of passes behind the line of scrimmage.
I think it's big for Cooper Degen in that aspect.
You got a couple of rookies. I'll take a second
year guy in Nolan Smith, and we saw the type
of trouble that the Eagles made for the Commanders on
the edge with Jadon Daniels, who know what he was
able to deal with on the edge all season long.
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I think you have to be able to make the
decision process a little bit quicker for Patrick Mahomes win
he's out on the edge making plays, especially late in games.
And Nolan Smith has that speed and that ability to
cause that fraction of a second that I think can
lead that secondary to make some play. So Nolan Smith
will be my field of the Eagle defending.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, Jaden Daniels shoe off during that game, that's how fast.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
That's tough. Pull his flag much. Let's get a shoe
off up next.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
We're putting the biggest stars in Super Bowl fifty.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Nine head to head.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
They don't get to do that on the field.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Mahomes versus Hurts, Kelsey versus Goddard say Quadi is literally
anybody who's ready to light up the scoreboard, we'll tell
you when we come back on Game DEVIUT it's time
for Expert Playmakers, presented by Intuit Turbo tex As we
discuss some player pops.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
So some big.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Quarterback show down between Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts. Greg
which quarterback is going to throw for more touchdowns on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I mean, I've got a lot of Eagles choices here,
but what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
It's Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
It's the greatest player I've ever seen enter the league,
and he always plays his best in these games. And
it's just much more of a pass first offense. It's
more passing touchdowns Mahomes or Hurts. Now, if it was
more total touchdowns, that's a different prop, and that one
I might go in a different direction because of what
Jalen has done on the ground. But one of the
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things I've loved to see out of Mahomes in this postseason,
I think he's been more willing to go for big
plays and go for the kind of jaw drop been
big time throws that made us love him when he
first was coming up and won his first Super Bowl.
And it's not that he's not trying in the regular season,
but I do think he's a little more willing to
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try some things and take some risks in the postseason
that he doesn't in the regular all Right.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
So as for who those risks are going to?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Who has more receiving yards in the game for the Chief,
Cynthia Hollywood Brown or Nuke Hopkins.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
I know this is gonna sound crazy, but my answer
DeAndre Hopkins. Wow, large part because I think what Andy
Reid does is he finds those little plays here and
there all throughout.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
The season that he hasn't used in a long time.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
DeAndre Hopkins hasn't had the loudest postseason of any one
catch team.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Yeah, and you know what that means. Andy Reid knows
that too.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
So ultimately, I'm looking at the opportunity for DeAndre Hopkins
and his ability to come down with contested catches. His body,
the way his body type works, He's always along the perimeter,
He's always up in a ton of traffic. Do you
remember a game against the Bills once when he was
a you know, playing for Arizona.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
That a pretty nice catch.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Those are the types of things I think that they'll
be looking for in this matchup.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
All right, So he hasn't necessarily had a historic postseason
Saquon Barkley has. He's been on a historic run. So
the question is, what do you even compare for Saquon Barkley?
Who do we put head to head for Saquon the
entire Chiefs offense? Who will have more rushing yards? I
still think it's going to be Saquon Barkley, who is
two yards away from having the most pre Super Bowl
yards in playoff history. He was two yards behind John Riggins.
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Remember he checked one down, could have had that way
out of the way. He's thirty yards away from where
Sorell Davis was with the most yards in postseason history.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I think he gets that.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I believe in the Eagles defense, I think it's not close.
I think Saquon's going to outrush the entire Chiefs team.
So let's go back to Greg here. Who has more
receptions in the game? Travis Kelcey or Dallas Goddard.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Okay, I know Travis Kelsey always shows up in the
Super Bowl, but the numbers tell me it's Dallas godd Or.
What did the chief struggle to do more than anything
on office defense? Or special teams. It stopped the tight end.
It's one of the only things that they are truly
bad at. One of the worst teams in the league
in terms of success rate EPA per play up the
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middle of the spine where Jalen Hurts can find Dallas Godder,
and it's not just gonna be on those post routes.
It's gonna be on some of those screens. They love
to use Dallas Godder.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
After the Cats.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Heck, they had him in the backfield in the Conference
championship running the ball.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
That shows how much they trust them.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
So I'm going Dallas got it with a big one
on Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
All right, let's move on to some defensive player, Cynthia.
Which linebacker has more tackles in this game? Nick Bolton
or Zach Bond.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Well, what did we talk about when you said it?
You mentioned it the short passes behind the line of
scrimmage that Patrick Mahomes is doing out a historic rate
also runs. So my answer here is going to be
Zach Bond, especially with Nikobe Dan not playing. I like Ornbrooks,
let me be Cleary, and he's had a great postseason,
But I still think Zach Bond is extra. I mean,
there's a reason that he had the accolades he's had
all season long. But if you're talking about offending stuff
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in front of him, sorry, not going to get past him.
So I think it's I think it's Zach vond here
for more.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Tech got up to oron Burks or for him. He
was sneaky huge in that Super Bowl in a negative
way for the forty nine ers. So I just hope
that doesn't happen this time.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
What we're talking about Zach bond here, I believe it
got a little shit.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
The guys there.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I'm just oran Burks came in, made a huge play
in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I mean, there's there's opportunity. Revenge is always there.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Last one who has more sacks in this game two
very good interiorty lineman Chris Jones or Jalen Carter. I
am going to go with Jones here because it's so
difficult to get fifteen on the ground. Jalen Hurts might
hold onto the ball a little bit lead to a sack,
maybe too, maybe a.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Sack and a half.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Either way, I do think it's easier for Chris Jones
to get on the board, than it will be a
Jalen Carter who's going to have to deal with those
double teams. I mean, they both will, but I think
it's Chris Jones the guy who should have a Super
Bowl MVP. I try to say it every chance that
I am. Look at some totals in these Super Bowls
since twenty nineteen, the over has only hit once, but
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it was when the Chiefs played the Eagles in Super
Bowl fifty seven. They're in Glendale, so the total for
Super Bowl fifty nine is forty nine points.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It's time to discuss over under.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
We've got some foam fingers to dictate how we feel,
not dictate, to indicate how we feel about the scores.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
And in this game, I've got the over.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I've got fifty six points, and that feels that that
feels a little like relatively like conservative, but no easy
over for me.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm with you. I've got sixty three points.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
And you look at the last time these two teams
played in the Super Bowl, and then you just look
at the last games that these two teams played, the
Chiefs and the Bills. They got to sixty one and
that was freezing cold weather. The Commanders in the Eagles,
I actually can't even count that high. You gotta go
to Cynthia to figure out what like the total that
they got in this These are two offenses that I
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think are playing their very best offense wins championships. Don't
let anyone tell you differently. I think it's going to
be a high scoring game.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
I mean, I'm the most conservative amongst the three of us,
and I'm at fifty five, so I.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Too believe that it is.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
More than the total number with forty nine, whatever it is.
So I think this is going to be an interesting
one though, because both defenses are something.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
That we talk about.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
However, it's the masterminding of the offenses that really drives
us one.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
For me, all right, let's keep more or less going here.
As we get into some player props. Patrick Mahomes ran
for sixty six yards in last year's Super Bowl, Cynthia.
Does he run for over thirty yards on Sunday?
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Yes, he does.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
The model says at least thirty two and fifty percent
of simulations. If you look at just the year number
we've been talking about it, it's tripled threefold increase in
terms of number of rushing attempts, be they scrambles or not,
who cares. They all come as the same thing for
our purposes here. So I think this is going to
be a really good opportunity. Whenever his offense line, especially
on the left, is under a little bit of pressure.
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Run to the right, my friend, Run to the right.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
You know they got those three and a half weeks off,
and people wonder, well, is that going to be rust
And then I've watched Patrick Mahomes running faster than he's
run all season long.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I've seen Kareem Hunt look.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Like you just had a long vacation, which he essentially did,
and looking fresher. This is what happens when you're the
one seed and you only lose one game. Patrick Mahomes
actually picks up speed.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, rest is good breaking news. Let's go to receiving arcs.
Because AJ Brown is a spectacular wide receiver. The question
is only have more or less than seventy one and
a half receiving year.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I had to go yes.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Here I mentioned the outside advantage that I think Philadelphia
has in the passing game. I just don't think the
Chiefs are at their best covering those deep passes down
the field. Ultimately, aj Brown for much of this season
was a first team All Pro. To me, it was him,
it was JJ, it was Jamar. Chase got a little
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banged up, had some slow moments in the playoffs. We
needed assistant coach Brandon Graham to set things right for em.
Jalen Hurts, but he is smoking now. Coming into the
Super Bowl with a week off and coming off a
great af NFC championship game, I think he has a
big day.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I think if you kind of it makes sense, right,
logical sense. We all think a lot of points, we
all think a lot of scoring. If you're an under enthusiast,
that could be the one that I think maybe you
switched the Devonte Smith number for. But that's only if
you're an under enthusiast and who likes that Deander's no fun.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, take that, under enthusiast, I'll take the last one.
Will Travis Kelce's longest reception in the game be over
nineteen and a half yards?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Greg, I say, under.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I think it will be, And I'll tell you exactly.
I'll tell you exactly how it's going to happen. It's
going to be a second and seven. Travis Kelcey is
going to curl up about twelve yards away from the
line of scrimmage. He's going to catch the ball, He's
going to do what appears to be a glacially slow turn,
which is going to cause a defender to fall down,
and he's going to go for twenty two yards. That
is my prediction, because like taking the other side of
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this feels like something I would do at my peril.
But you know, as an under enthusiast, that.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Move has never not worked.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
It ever, every time Travis Kelcey just puts a little
bit of a fake to the right.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And then Carlson left, it works.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I don't know his nineteen and a half yards though,
It just takes a little longer than it used to.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
So I'm thinking about.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
The regular season, and maybe I shouldn't when there wasn't
a lot of explosive plays from Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, all the fast people were chasing him. But now
theyve as you pointed out, they've got more fast people
on the field that are more of an issue to cover.
When we come back, folks, we're gonna finally make our picks.
So who's gonna actually win Super Bowl fifty nine?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Have you been tracking each decision to say, well, I
think Cynthia's going with the Chiefs, or I think it's
the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Is Casey Dustin forward?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Three?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
P is never revenge for Philly? All that, plus who's
gonna win the MVP.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's coming up next on game debut. Oh, what a
beautiful opportunity and a beautiful play. Shout out to New Orleans, Louisiana,
the Caesar super Dome site of Super Bowl fifty nine,
and how appropriate it's Tom for us to seize the
season presented by Caesar Sportsbook. As we're looking at the
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first touchdown score odds on Sunday, Saquon and Jalen Hurts
leading the way, followed up by Kareem Hunt, Travis Kelsey
and Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Is we finally made it? Guys, it's Tom for us
to make You.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Looked at me with some consternation there, Greg.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
What was I'm still trying to decide what my pick
is going to be?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Like?
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Oh got it?
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Okay, He's like looked over like moment, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Mean, we gotta run down.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But Greg's a wildcard. He can make a change at
any point. As we get to our picks, the Chiefs
looking to become the first team in history to win
three consecutive Super Bowls, Jalen Hurts and Saquon trying to
get their first winning rings.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Who is winning Super Bowl fifty nine? Greg Rosenthal?
Speaker 4 (30:57):
It has to be the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Thirty three to thirty is the score. When you think
about the NFL lately, maybe you're thinking it's all a
little too similar. Four of the last six years in
the Super Bowl, it's been either forty nine Ers Chiefs
or Eagles Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
So what do you do to change that up?
Speaker 5 (31:17):
You add a new player to the dynamic, and that
player has defined that season this season, and that player
is Saquon Barkley. In the same way that Patrick Mahomes
came into our lives and won that MVP back in
twenty eighteen and then won the Super Bowl in twenty nineteen,
Saquon Barkley has come to this Eagles team and he's
changed the entire landscape. They are the most talented team
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in the NFL if you go through the rosters at
most positions, I'm taking Eagles over Chiefs, but they haven't
been able to match them in terms of their best player.
And I know It's a running back, and running backs
don't matter as much as quarterbacks. But this running back
plus this offensive line in this season does matter just
as much as Patrick Mahomes and Saquon Barkley has had
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a season we will be talking about for the rest
of our lives. And the only way that that season
can finish is with him up on the podium winning
that MVP Award. With like one hundred and seventy total
yards from scrimmage thirty three to thirty.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
The Eagles get it done.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
I don't know how I can follow that.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
However, I do have a one point win for the Eagles.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
My model a little bit surprised me. I guess if
I'm picking with my gut, I would have gone with
the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
However, the model has twenty eight to twenty seven. Same
model that got me here, same model that went about
seventy two percent for the season. So I have to
trust it here.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
On this one. I had to get that in. They're
just in the one.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
And that got you Eagles Chiefs before this season.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Hey, you know, But ultimately to me, Dallas.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Goddard is one of the biggest difference makers. Greg talked
about it earlier this is an area where the Chiefs
have a weakness. And if there's one thing that I
think is going to be hard, it's picking your poison.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
Which poison are you going to pick?
Speaker 6 (32:53):
You to pick the aj Brown poison, take one, to
take one Barkley poison that Ivanta Smith that you're.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Gonna have to pick one.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
And Dallas Goddard to me, has the best opportunity to
be in the spot right where Jalen Hurts needs him
at the moment that he needs.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
Him, with just enough time.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
And I mean, if they're going to give him that
much separation, then maybe it's a lot of Dallas gotter,
but ultimately that's going to be a different surprise.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
The model won't with the Eagles. Now you gotta go
Chiefs here.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Well, I mean we cannot be given a Memeler against
the best team of all time.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
It's important to have differences, and I think a lot
of things are different than the last time the Eagles
played the Chiefs, but we're not different in our picks.
Winning a wow Argan than Cynthia and Greg. I've got
thirty two to twenty because Vic Fanjo isn't coming in
as a consultant he's actually coordinated this defense. Quinnon, Mitchell, Cooper, Dejean,
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all these guys were not Eagles. But it's Nolan Smith,
it is Jalen Carter. It's a couple of dogs, and
I think are the reason that the Eagles are winning
this game because, as Greg pointed out, there's just a good,
solid team positioned by position all across the board. And yes,
like there is samness, the Chiefs are good. Patrick Mahomes
is still a rare and good quarterback. But sometimes you
lose games. So sometimes we lose games because there's an
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overwhelming talent differential, and I think.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
That talent differential.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
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the Eagles win the Super Bowl. As we all selected
who's going to win the MVP, here are the odds.
Patrick Mahomes of course the far and away favorite, and
then Saquon and Jalen Hurts. So let us make our
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picks for the Super Bowl fifty nine MVP.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Who is yours? Greg Wilson.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
I just made a whole big speech about how saquin
and Barclay is going to be holding the the MVP,
But actually I'm going to Jalen Hurts for this question.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
He's the quarterback. I like the odds better.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
It's more about the value you have a running back
there as a pretty heavy favorite to be the MVP.
I do think people get into narratives. Barkley would be
a great narrative. But if Jalen Hurts puts together like
a two hundred and fifty yard two touchdown type of game,
I think everyone would really get on board with. Hey,
let's give this quarterback his shine. He has been so
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important for this team. Quarterbacks almost always win this award.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Let's go Jalen.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And you know, Jalen Hurts already has like a rolodex
of very hard quotes that people are gonna put on
Instagram if he gets that award, which Cindya generally goes
to quarterback, Like you have to do something really special
to win this award as a not quarterback.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Thirty three quarterbacks, eight wide receivers, seven running backs, only
ten total defensive players. Ever, but I'm thinking Jalen Carter,
might you are eleventh in these MVP. Why Well, we
know that the old line is an issue, and I
know Jalen Carter kind of lines up not in the
area on the left side, he'd be on the offensive right. However,
he can be such a huge wrecking ball that he
could even make Creed Humphrey look like not as good
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as a player as he is, and Humphrey is electric.
So when I'm looking at the opportunity here to go
a little off menu, to go a little bit value shopping,
to go a little bit of upside looking, I'm going
for Jalen Carter because we know the quarterbacks probably are
going to get it sake one probably after.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
That, but why not be fun? We like fun. Jalen Carter?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
All right, So we got two quarterback picks there, myself
and Greg and Cynthia going off the board with a
defensive lineman. Thanks for watching Game debut presented by Caesar
Sportsbook All season. We hope you enjoy Super Bowl fifty
nine for Cynthia and greg I Patrick, See you next year.
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