January 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with Raiders DE Maxx Crosby at the desk! Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Peter Schrager, and Akbar Gbaja-Biamila discuss expectations for Ravens-Bills on Sunday! Which QB would Maxx prefer to face in a last drive situation? Peter and Kyle give the history of Allen and Jackson before making predictions about what will happen during the matchup!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What's up? This is Good Morning Football.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
We are presented by old Trapper Beef Jerkey.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Live in LA and New York.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Today.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
As always, it's Friday, January seventeenth. I'm Jamie heard all.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
This is off bar Bush, b Miller, Peter Schreker, Kyle Brandt,
Max Crost.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Yeah, writing early with us man with the rose gold.
Let's just appreciate you real quick man lead good.
Speaker 7 (00:45):
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (00:46):
Man. It's an honor to be here. I've been watching
the show for a long time, so finally got to
make the trip out here. You know, like I said,
boot it up a little bit.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
How's the jury? By the way, you know you had
surgery about a month ago.
Speaker 7 (00:57):
How is that going.
Speaker 8 (00:57):
It's going great. Rehab lifting, we're rolling like usual. So
it's just a little bit different right now. But been
doing incredible.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Okay, there it is. It is not diamond and crusted.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I know you were all curious, Peter, Kyle, how about
this guy at the table?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I know you're jealous.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Kyle.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I like that jacket.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
You think this looks good?
Speaker 9 (01:12):
Just remember when you're watching Lamar and the Baltimore Ravens
run around. This weekend, they lost to that dude. That
dude had two sacks on Lamar. The Raiders beat the
Ravens this year. We're going to talk about it all day, Peter.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
How fire it up?
Speaker 9 (01:23):
Are?
Speaker 10 (01:23):
We have McCunn and you watch Mahomes doing what he
doesn't against the Houston Texans. Go back a couple of
weekends on Thanksgiving weekend, that Friday game, Raiders almost won
that news because Max Crosby and his teammate's absolutely obliterated
that offensive line in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I think he knows the thing or too.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Let's come back about Mahomes.
Speaker 10 (01:38):
So we're excited to get to Max Crosby to talk
about all these games and the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
This episode.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Absolutely, it's time to dig right into truly the game
we've been talking about all week long.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's Bill's Ravens.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
You got to look at this game, you look at
these quarterbacks, you look at the characters involved, and all
of a sudden, Peter, we're talking about things that have.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Meeting this weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
One team will continue on the other one we'll pack
their bags and go home. Peter, does this game mean
more for the team that comes up victorious over the
weekend or the one that will be booking their trip
to Cabo.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I think you know. You talk about legacy and
what it would mean.
Speaker 10 (02:12):
Josh Allen hasn't been in an AFC Championship game in
quite some time. Lamar Jackson has never been to a
Super Bowl and has fallen short in the AFC Championship
This divisional round. This is the divisional round, which is
what we have to keep in context here. This game
feels like it's the biggest game in NFL history right
now because of the way these two players have been playing.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's just a divisional round.
Speaker 10 (02:32):
If you lose in the divisional round, you're watching the
AFC Championship Game and the Super Bowl from home, just
like you would of any other season. Despite the huge
statistical and memorable seasons that both these guys have. I
said it earlier in the week, and I got a
lot of blowback for it. I think it's the most
anticipated and game with highest stakes in the divisional round
in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I really mean that, and I mean it for these
two players.
Speaker 10 (02:54):
The seasons that they have cannot be discussed with hyperbole.
Do you know Lamar Jackson has twenty three touchdown passes
and one interception on the road this season. Do you
know that Josh Allen is doing this without Stefan Diggs,
without Gabe Davis and the other wide receivers on his
team right now, we're mostly injured at some point during
the season.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
All of these pieces lead up.
Speaker 10 (03:15):
To what I think will be number one and number
two in the MVP voting, and yet the loser goes
home and the loser has to watch for another three
weeks before we even crown an NFL Super Bowl champion.
The game that keeps coming up when I say it's
the most anticipated Divisional round game of all time is
two thousand and four when Manning and Brady went at
it in a Divisional round game in the snow up
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in Foxborough. But I have to set in the stage here.
Brady had already won too super bowls, Manning had already
won two MVPs, but Manny hadn't gotten to the big
one yet.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
And Brady and.
Speaker 10 (03:52):
The Boys showed that it was team over MVP, and
the team took care of Bns twenty to three. They
held Edward James to forty yards rushing, and it was
really the game that changed the rules forever. Bill Pollion
goes to the rules committee, there's a big conversation, and
they changed the pass interference rules entirely, and the five
yards and all that because of the way that the
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Patriots were covering the Cults in that game. I say
all this because that game had stakes, It had stakes,
and that if Manning lost, he had to carry that
label throughout his entire career.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Fortunately for Peyton Manning.
Speaker 10 (04:27):
Who not only defeat that label, overcome that label, but
he would do it two times over and he would
go on to be a Pro Football Hall of Famer
with two Super Bowl rings. For Alan or for Lamar,
to lose this game, you're starting at ground zero again
next year, and you've got to do it all over again,
and it's not even.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
In the championship round. I think this.
Speaker 10 (04:47):
Is a negative feeling here going into this, and I
have this doom and gloom, but it means so much
for the winner, but it really means a lot for
the loser because you're starting back up with OTAs in
March and April and you're back at square one.
Speaker 9 (05:00):
Peter, you're talking about steaks, and I know Max relates
to it. There's a moment in his media session this
week where one of the reporters asked, Josh Allen, you know,
how can you get past the relationship you guys have
with this divisional round And Josh is like, well, we
did play in a title game once. He's like, yeah,
but not for a while. It was a kind of
a weird exchange. And it's right. There's also this deal
about Lamar's not exactly mister playoffs either. Lamar Jackson has
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never thrown a road touchdown pass in the playoffs. Ever,
he's played two road playoff games. He'd not throw a
touchdown pass in either one of those games. He's gonna
have to break that streak. Then you have the Bills
nine and oho at home this year nine and oh
they don't lose at home. John Harbaugh has won more
road playoff games than anyone in history. Wow, in history, Belli,
check Lombardi, anybody you can name.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
John Harbaugh is one the most.
Speaker 9 (05:44):
Ever, this is like, there's something that's got to give thing,
And as much as we like to champion the positive
and everything, someone's probably gonna come up short in this game.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
This is not going to be forty six to.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Forty five and everybody plays beautifully, Someone's gonna throw a
bad pick, make a bad mistake. Maybe it's coaching, Maybe
someone mismanages the clock at the end of the game
and their team loses. There are so many state going on,
and Peter, you're right, the Peyton versus Brady thing, it
feels reminiscent of that because the winner is going to
go on face whoever they face, but the loser is
going to have months, if not years, if not the
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rest of their lives to look back on this game
about remember you went to Buffalo that one day, or
you host the Rams that one day and you threw
that pick in the red zone, and that's what you'll
be remembered by.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Max.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
This has got to fire you up.
Speaker 9 (06:27):
And as a defensive guy, all we're talking about is Dereck,
Henry Lamar and Josh Like, where does your mind go
on this?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
This game's huge.
Speaker 8 (06:34):
Yeah, there's so much on the line in this game.
You know, for both guys, I feel like you have
two MVP caliber quarterbacks. I think it's been a two
man race for the last two three months and so
much anticipation, so like you said, like a divisional round
game with this much at stake, I feel like it's
going to bring the best out. And it's also there's
going to be moments where you know, guys might have
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some low moments, you know what I mean. So everything's
at stake. Both these teams have legitimate Super Bowl aspiration,
so I think it's really possible that you know, he's
a regular season award when it comes to MVP, but
I feel like this can really solidify who that person's
going to be.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
Two guys that I've played many times, got a lot
of respect for, but Kareem always rises to the top.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
So it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Are we being too dramatic? Are we being too dramatic
with this question? With the quarterbacks? And you know him
so well, but like listening to the to Peter and
Kyle go and you're like, Wow, this is like we're.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Really building this thing up.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
The fact that we are talking legacy and the fact
that Kyle just said this quarterback loses might live with
it for the rest of their life, like not just
for the next five days. What does that How does
that question make you feel?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (07:37):
I feel like in the moment when you're when you're
right in it right now, I feel like everything's going
to be amplified. Of course, time heels, but at the
end of the day, when you know you're talking about
quarterback play, winning is all that matters. And as a player,
you know what I mean, that's that's that's your legacy.
So you know, people have had their their question marks
about Lamar in the playoffs. So I know he you know,
I know him well, and I know he's a he's
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a competitor and I know that's sitting in the back
of his head. But also I feel like this last
month everyone's been talking about, you know, Josh Allen's not
the MVP anymore, it's got to be the market and
so I know he's he's a competitor as well. It's like, okay,
I'm a show who's the real MVP. So I'm really
looking forward to it. Both of you know, obviously both
of them are incredible talents, but big moments are what
you know, you know, solidify you know, your legacy. So
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it is a divisional round. But even if this is
a first round matchup, I feel like these teams are
so talented and have so many, you know, good things
going for him that this is going to mean a lot.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
For sure.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
It's so hard because I know, for for athletes, for us,
like we start thinking and we don't forget that's the
one thing in a game that has so much impact. Kyle,
you're talking about it, and you're right, like it does
live with you because the thing is, you don't know
what next year is.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Going to be.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Like Peter you talked about starting from ground zero, like
we got to do this all over again. Every season
is so difficult. So there's a lot of pressure on
the fact that we're at this point because whoever wins
this has the best opportunity. I'm going to go ahead
and just say it out out front. They've got the
best opportunity to take down the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
This is it.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
So you know that if we get past this game,
this is it, we have that opportunity because there are
weakness in the armors for the Mighty Mighty Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
But I look at this and I'm.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Going as d Lineman Max, you know, like a team
that has a strong run game typically is going to
be the one that sets the tone and has the
best advantage. And I'm looking for the Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore Ravens,
that run defense is something that you've got to stop
and go. Wait, it's the number one run defense, and
it's the number one excuse me run rush defense and
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the number one rushing offense. You get those two combinations
that allows you to dominate the game. And that's what
the Ravens do well. But I will say this to
hear the respect that the coaches and that the players
give to Lamar Jackson because Lamar Jackson, I've been saying
this all season, He's like Kobe Bryant. And I want
you to take a listen to Ed Oliver and how
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his coach describes Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 11 (09:59):
Coach say is something that really stuck with me. And
he was like, he's like Kobe Bryant, and like how
you can't necessarily stop Kobe Bryan. Kobe Bryant's gonna get
his at some point. And that was a great analogy
to Lamar is gonna get his at some point and
we know that, and everybody knows that and everybody watching
those that we just have to limit him.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
And that was his coach, coach Edwards, who told him
that his assistant d line coach. You agree with the
the Kobe Bryant comparison.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
I mean, that's that's a big comparison. You know, I'm
a big Kobe guy. So that's that's that's with five rings,
that's the whole difference.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I like it.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
I think Lamar is incredible.
Speaker 10 (10:35):
I think that's it though, right Max, Like like, Lamar's
the mamba and mentality and all that is fine if
you don't have a ring. If you don't, it's hard
to say he's the Kobe Bryant, like he's a great talent.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
You said it, and I think it's so poignant.
Speaker 10 (10:49):
It might not be the case for a Justin Jefferson
or a Jamar Chase or a Max Crosby or a T. J.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Watt.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Quarterbacks. I'm sorry, the winds do matter.
Speaker 10 (10:58):
And a lot of us like, well, wins are not
a quarterback status when we look at this thing. At
the end of the day, it's like Eli Manning two
super Bowls and beat Tom Brady and those super bowls,
he's gonna be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
If Eli Manning doesn't win those two super Bowls and he.
Speaker 10 (11:09):
Doesn't have those playoff wins, it's probably not a Hall
of Famer like for quarterbacks, it is different and as
surface level as that sounds, this is a huge game
for the winner. It is a bigger game for the loser.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Okay, Max, Let's get to brass tacks.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Let's do this.
Speaker 9 (11:24):
Let's say you you got a five point lead and
there's ninety seconds left in the game. The other team's
just had a touchback. They come out, they got first
and ten, and they need to make a game winning
drive against you and your defense. Who would be tougher
to defend in that situation, Lamar or Josh.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
He got the hard hitting question.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Welcome, welcome.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
Yeah, I think I've played both of them, both incredible talents.
I played Josh. He was my first career college sack,
so no, w Yeah, I played him, so I know
him very well. But if I'm on defense, I might
I might say I'd rather go against Lamar. With all respect,
I mean, they're both incredible, but I think Josh Allen
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has shown it over and over again, even in the
losses to the Chiefs, you know, in those big games
in the playoffs, Josh Allen was still having career games.
He just didn't have the ball last So I feel
like Josh Allen. He's he's got the clutch geam for sure,
and he's so dangerous, you know, running and throwing the ball.
You can make all the throws. And also he's big
as me, you know, out there playing quarterback, So that
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that brings a whole another challenge.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
You got a general month year that those things happened,
because we have a really good library. I want to
see that video if you're getting Josh Allen in college?
When did that happen?
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah? It was. It was my red shirt freshman year.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
We played at Eastern Michigan and it should have been
a full sack, but he was, you know, that's as
strong and pulled me extra two yards and my teammate down.
It still counted and it was still my first one,
but it was. It was a half sack.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
And what year was that was?
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Twenty? I want to say sixteen?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Okay, oh yeah, yeah, we got to look it up.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
All right.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Max Frisby here with us for the entire show today
on GMF on NFL Network.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
This is awesome. We have a whole.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Segment dedicated to you in just a couple of minutes.
Until then, Ian Rappaport get in here NFL Network Insider
with us today I and the Ravens unfortunately could be
once again missing a massive weapon again on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
What's the latest is A Flowers?
Speaker 12 (13:20):
Yeah, it does seem like it is headed that way
for the Baltimore Ravens once again. Za Flowers did not
practice yesterday for the Ravens, actually has not practiced since
he suffered that Knie sprain a couple of weeks ago,
So only looking like he is going to miss this game.
And my understanding early on in the week was he
had a maybe outside chance of being out there unless
something crazy happens, unless he's able to practice ay and
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kind of push through.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It does not seem like that is the case.
Speaker 12 (13:44):
And then you know, you start to think about if
the Baltimore Ravens win, will he be available next week?
Hasn't practiced in a couple weeks If they get there,
obviously it's a good problem to have, but I would
say I think it's fair to say his status up.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
In the air moving forward for the Ravens.
Speaker 12 (13:58):
Meanwhile, for the Houston Texans, somewhat of a surprise this week,
Joe Mixon limited in practice a couple days ago, they
did not practice yesterday. Officially listed as questionable for the
Texan for Saturday's game against the Chiefs. My understanding, though
not a major injury, does have a very very real
chance to play, and I would say, barring something unforeseen,
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that probably is the way it goes. Damian Peers and
Daria Gumbwali are his backups more than capable backups. Mixing
is a Pro Bowl Texans absolutely need to have him
out in the field.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
All right, Ian, appreciate you. We are going to continue
to talk to Max. I has Ian never broken news
about you.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Max Crosby, I believe so okay a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
The face and answer to it rap sheet talk to
you in a little bit. We're going to keep talking. Josh, Allen,
Lamar Jackson. We got Max Crosby in studio. We got
to pick his brain about everything Raiders. But Kyle, what
do you have in store for us?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Who are you picking up all.
Speaker 9 (14:55):
Kinds of stuff? This is one of the best days
of the year, guys. It's it's divisional Eves plus Peter
and I are going to look back on the entire
career arcs of Josh, Josh and Lamar.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Same draft class, Peter, same draft class.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
A lot of history together too. But let's talk about
this dude, one of.
Speaker 10 (15:12):
My son's favorite players in the NFL. We got a
squeezy mate, the Jumbo con Ooh, this is the dude.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Max Crosby's in studio with us. Cannot wait to get
back with Max.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Good morning Football, Lamar Mahomes, Bo Nicks got him. That's
every time you see Max Crosby play. Look at what
this man has done in the NFL since he joined
the party in twenty nineteen, one hundred plus tackles for loss,
which is the most in that time span, nearly sixty
sacks and over five thousand career defensive snaps. To me,
that might be the most impressive one. That's impressive durability,
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and we're all hoping that Max Crosby gets right, gets healthy.
At surgery a month ago and he's working his way back.
He's on our set today on GMTB. He's wearing the boot,
he's got this cooter, but he's.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
In our chair for a couple of hours. Max, what's up?
Speaker 7 (16:07):
What's up? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:07):
I appreciate you guys having me absolutely, honor Peter.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
We got a line up of questions.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
Huh, yeah, this is where you step into the cauldourn
and we really greatly No.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Look, Mac, we're so happy to have you all.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Are we are, Mac, It means a lot to us.
Speaker 10 (16:18):
We're gonna ask first tell us about where you are
with your rehab, what time in the timeline, and then
if you can tell us where you are mentally with
the state of you and the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
You know, the the rehab has been going incredible. It'll
be about a four to four and a half month
deal till I'm fully healthy and cleared, So that's going incredible.
I'm already lifting, rehabbing in the building every day, a
getting after it. So I'll be walking next week. I've
been rolling around here on a scooter. It's definitely been
an adjustment, but yeah, you know, it's just part of
the process. So I'm doing incredible on that on that end,
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so yeah, I'm feeling really good about it and.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
Where we're at.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
But future of the Raiders, obviously, I think everybody kind
of knows what's going on. I mean, like I said,
I'm there every morning. You know, we just talked about it,
and it's very eerie around there. I would say, you
know a lot of a lot of new changes and
things like that. You know, obviously with the coach ap
you know, getting fired and Telasco as well. First off,
want to you know, shout out to those guys. They
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were incredible, you know, for me during my time there.
But yeah, you know, for me, I'm just just focused
on the day to day. You know, a lot of
things are out of my control, you know what I mean.
I'm gonna sit back and wait and see what happens.
But I'm just focused on my rehab right now, and
we'll take it one step at a time.
Speaker 10 (17:28):
Yeah, you're under contract still, but you know, I see
I only think of you as in Silver and Black.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But we announced you were coming on the show.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
You better believe Packers fans, you better believe Patriots.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
They all come out of the woodwork.
Speaker 10 (17:41):
And they're like match will look great and green and yellow,
like do those thoughts as you see all another transition
and another turnover and you enter another year in your
in your career, do those thoughts start going through your mind?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Or is it I'm silver and Black, let's go.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
You know, obviously it's it's hard to avoid seeing all
the noise and all those things, and you know, especially
Green Bay and Buffalo, some of these fan bases rabbit. Yeah,
they do not stop and I respect it, you know
what I mean. I love that. That's one thing I
love about being with the Raiders is the fan base
is rabid and they love football, you know what I mean.
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They'll do anything. They put the whole life into it.
So yeah, I see all those things. And for me
right now, I'm just focused on, like I said, my
process and my day to day and getting healthy. We're
going to see what happens with the coaching situation. You know,
I've been with the Raiders for six years. I'm currently
under contract, but I think you know, I've talked about
it before, Like I have no guarantee money left. There's
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a lot of things that need to be discussed, and
we're going to do that and focus on taking it
one step at a time and we'll move accordingly. So
for me, you know, I'm happy in general get to
spend some more time with my daughter, you know, around
this time of the year, and yeah, well we'll let
it all play out how it's supposed to. So regardless,
you know, I'm in a great place and you know,
We're gonna have those discussions here real soon.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
Cool. The other fan bases can try to recruit you
all you want, Max's you are the face of the
Raiders right now. It's a rare thing for defensive player,
especially when as young as you. You're the face of
the team and you have been through so much already.
I mean you've been through as coaches Gruden, Bisacia McDaniels,
now a p and now whoever's next. You must be
just craving stability. So there's a lot of names out there.
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This is not a political endorsement, just your reaction. How
do you feel about it? The headline name right now
that everybody keeps talking about is Ben Johnson, who coaches
this weekends the offense corner for the Lions.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
You know who he is.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
How do you feel about him if he were to
hypothetically come in and be your next head coach?
Speaker 8 (19:32):
You know, like I said, like in the in the past,
I've shared my thoughts and opinions on what you know,
what we think we should do, and I'm always going
to be that way. That's who I am. You know,
I'm very passionate about the Raiders in general. You know,
being in my position. You know, I feel like I've
earned that voice over the years with not only my production,
but you know what I've done in the building, and
that's a you know, being the first in, last out.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Every day, so that's that's a big part of it.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
But yeah, you know, Ben Johnson, you know a lot
of people are talking about it, and you hear rumors
and sometimes when there's smoke, there's a there's a fire.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
But we'll see, you know.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
And if you've heard Pete Carroll, you've heard some names
as well, and those guys are great coaches. So at
the end of the day, for the most important thing
to me, like you said, is stability and winning. You know,
I want a chance to actually win and be in
those games, be playing at this time of the year.
I know what I bring, you know, to the table
as a leader and as a player, and I want
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everybody else on board. And that's my main focus is
being in that environment. So whoever is going to, you know,
give the Raiders the best chance to do that, I'm
all on board for that. So we're going to see
how it turns out right now. You know, in the past,
I've stressed out about it and kind of you know,
try to worry too much. But at the end of
the day, like I'm gonna play, I'm in a different
place in my life right now. I'm extremely happy and
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confident where I'm at, and I'm just gonna let her
play out the way it's supposed to. So well, we'll
see who. We'll see who's going to be the next
guy here?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Yeah, no stress, Let's let's get you excited.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
What's the one where you see it, you get a
text or you see it on the ticker announces the
new head coach of the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
There's names you mentioned them.
Speaker 9 (21:01):
What if mister Davis Gohson hires Deon Sanders, What if
mister Brady goes back and bring Bill Belichick?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
How do those names hit.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
You on a on a personal level. I've known Coach
Prime for a long time. My brother actually was roommates
with his son, Bucky Deon Jr. So they go way back.
So Deon's whole family. I remember seeing Shador when he
was a little kid. I was at their house in Texas. Really,
people don't know that I've known them for forever. So
I'm really close to Shador, Dion Junior, his whole family.
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So Uh, they're they're great people. So yeah, I mean,
if Deon Sanders was my coach, how could I be mad?
Speaker 7 (21:35):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (21:36):
So I've known him for a long time. And and also,
you know, like Coach Belichick, like we do, uh the
Let's Go podcast every every Tuesday. We release it on
Mondays and Tuesdays, and he's on that, so we we
get to spend some time together. And you know, we've
we've gone against each other and joint practices when Josh
McDaniels was here, so we got a mutual respect for
each other. So I mean, there's so many names you can,
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you know, go back and forth. But like like I said,
for me, the work, none of that is ever a
complain for me. I'm always going to put the work
and I'm always gonna sacrifice to be in that position
to be the best version of me and the best
leader I can be. So whoever coach that is as
long as the ring stability and winning, that's all about, all.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Right, So let's put it to the fire. Because I'm
very passionate about about the Raiders. Grew up here in
Los Angeles, LA Raiders fan then had the great opportunity
to play for the Raiders that, like, the Raiders mean
a lot to me. We need to have a state
of the Raider nation here. But I know you don't
want to put yourself in a bad position, but you
can play general manager since we don't have a general
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manager at this point if you had to, who do
you think if you had to make that choice, who
do you think makes the biggest cultural change in the
locker room? You know Dion Sanders, there's even a Nick
Saban out there as well, But what type of coach
when you think about Dion Sanders, Like who makes that
cultural change that gets everybody smoking cigars.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
In the locker room like ap after that win? You know,
like who does that for you?
Speaker 8 (23:02):
I wish I wish I knew you know for me
at the end of the day, Like history speaks for itself,
and like you see what Ben Johnson's been able to
do with Dan Campbell, those guys have created magic out
there in Detroit. And Ben Johnson's probably the best play
call in football right now. So the cultural part of it,
like it's no secret, Like he hasn't been a head coach,
but Sean mcgabel wasn't a head coach before he got
with the Rams, and there's a lot of guys that
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come in and become incredible at that. So I can't
sit there and say, yeah, he's going to be a
great head coach and he's never done it. But it's
not that I don't believe in him, and it's not
that he has a potential to be one of the
best coaches in the league. So guy like Ben Johnson's incredible,
Pete Carroll, he's one of four coaches all time to
ever one. I want to pick one o Caroselve.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
But we'll see.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
But like Pete Carroll, like he's one of four coaches
all time to win a National Championship and a Super Bowl.
So that guy has won everywhere he want. So I
look at all those things and for me, like I'm
heavily involved. Like I said, I'm at peace and I'm happy.
But like I do my homework too, I'm sitting there like,
all right, what's this guy bring to the table? Who's
the decord and who would he possibly bring? I think
about that with Ben Johnson, I want to Yeah, this
is my life. That's all I think about war.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
It's my brain.
Speaker 8 (24:04):
Besides my time with Ella and Rach and my two
k time at home.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
So, well, you're on our show for a reason. You
want to hang and talk football for a couple of hours.
You're gonna be on game day morning all weekend long,
which is great. You clearly will sit and watch and
unpack the teams that are playing this weekend. One of
them is your hometown Detroit Lions.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
How do you.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Feel about the way that this thing has been built
in Detroit and just your relationship with that logo?
Speaker 8 (24:27):
You know, it kind of bothers me, you know, because
I had to wait my whole childhood for them to
be good. Now that I'm in the league, I'm another
will contend it so selfishly, I'm kind of mad at them,
you know what I mean. But in all realness, seeing
what Dan Campbell is built, hearing what those guys say
about him. You know, Meek Robertson, former teammates out there,
Pat O'Connor was my teammate at Eastern Michigan. He's there
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with Detroit, and everybody says the same thing. They're like,
I hope one day, you know, you just get to,
you know, be able to be in that locker room
with coach Campbell. Like he's incredible. They said, he'll literally
die for the players, Like he lives by that. The
things you see in the in the locker room, post
game and the interviews and everything, like that's who he is.
You know, people kind of clowned him at first or like,
you know, the knee caps and all this stuff is
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out out of this world. But like he truly lives
by that. And I know that for a fact. So
it's incredible to see. And just for the city of Detroit.
My mom was born, you know, raised in Detroit, my
you know, aunts and uncles. I grew up in Michigan,
right down the street. It's incredible to see for the
city because it's been some long years and the Lions
haven't won a long time. And I see the Pistons winning,
the Red Wings are winning, even the Tigers. Tigers are
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back when and I'm like, damn, I'm like now I'm
in Vegas my childhood I was in in You.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Know, you can still appreciate far.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
We appreciate Max, you coming on and just being with
us all day today, Max Crosby, everybody on GMF be well.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Happy Friday, everybody. I'm sheery burst.
Speaker 13 (25:52):
The Lions securing the one seed in the NFC Playoffs,
giving running back David Montgomery an extra week to achieve
his goal of returning for the divisional round.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
It looks like that paid off.
Speaker 13 (26:03):
Montgomery officially removed from the Lions injury report, appears to
be good to go for Saturday's game against the Commanders
in Montgomery. He has been out since his injury back
in week fifteen.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
He hurt his knee.
Speaker 13 (26:15):
But we do have some good news for the Commanders
as well. Linebacker Bobby Wagner limited a practice Thursday after
missing the previous two days with an ankle injury. He's
expected to play in this game against Detroit. And Eagles
players Cooper Dejean and Thomas Book recently volunteering at Leveling
the Playing Field, a nonprofit redistributed sports equipment to under
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resourced youth athletic programs. The Eagles players teamed up with
local high school football players. They sorted, and they cleaned
donated sporting goods. This will be redistributed to young athletes
across the Philadelphia area.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
We'll coming up.
Speaker 13 (26:52):
Next Kyle and Peter diving into the huge quarterback matchup
between the MVP front runners. Mar Jackson then Josh Allen,
So don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
Welcome back to Good Morning Football. We have the Divisional
round game of the century. But if you have that
big a.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Matchup, you have to have an origin story. We have two.
Speaker 9 (27:24):
Peter and I decided before we get to the game
of Bills versus Ravens this weekend, we want to look
back at these two quarterbacks. Peter tell the story, how
they're intertwined, how they're gonna end up facing each other.
And we Drew Straws, I'm gonna do Lamar, Peter's gonna
do Josh.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I am?
Speaker 10 (27:38):
And let's go back to the twenty eighteen NFL. Here
we go, because in the twenty eighteen NFL Draft there
were four household name quarterbacks from the college game. Sam
Darnold and Josh Frozen were the two superstars from southern
California who you watched on Saturdays all season long.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
Baker Mayfield was the big name and the bigger.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Personality from Oklahoma.
Speaker 10 (27:59):
And there was Lamar Jackson, the super athlete with a Heisman
Trophy guy.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
There was Josh Allen.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
He was from Wyoming via a farmtown in Fireball, California.
He was a complete unknown, yet he was no Chalamey.
The Bills traded up to get him, and there was
hope that this small town, little known prospect with this
cannon for an arm, could be the savior to a
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Bill's franchise that hadn't won a playoff game since the
nineteen nineties.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
I'll tag in now.
Speaker 9 (28:34):
Remember Lamar won the Heisman as a sophomore. He returns
for his junior year, and he was sensational. But coming
out of the draft there's a lot to chew on.
He did not have an agent, he did not run
a forty at the combine, and it was openly suggested
by many that he should switch to wide receiver. Lamar
Jackson ends up being the fifth quarterback taken. The Ravens,
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after taking titand Hayden Hurst at twenty five, had to
trade back into the first round with the Eagles. They
took Lamar at thirty two, and the second he was drafted,
he talked to Dion Sanders and Lamar was pissed off.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
I can see it in your eyes.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I can see you a little bit upset, little the Turk.
But guess what, I'm here.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
You're here.
Speaker 14 (29:16):
I'm a rave his own all year every year. Yes, sir,
they gonna get a Super Bowl out of me. Leader, Leader,
it's the best. Josh Allen showed flashes early. That was
the play he hurdled over Anthony Barr in.
Speaker 10 (29:31):
A shocking win in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And then the guy would make these huge throws.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
And in his second season, he took the Bills to
the playoffs, only to see the Texans come from all
the way behind and win in heartbreaking fashion for Buffalo fans. Look,
there was an AFC championship game in the very next
year in Arrowhead.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
There's another loss, but it was year three, year three that.
Speaker 10 (29:56):
Was coming, and that's when the sky was the limit.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Meanwhile, rookie Lamar mostly stood around. This is a great.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
Gas, Lamar, You're out, get out, get out.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
You're not in the huddle. He's running off the field.
He did not play much.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
He was in there a little bit, either in mop
up duty or cameos or little spot duty, but he
mostly stood on the sideline or sat next.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
To Joe Flacco like that.
Speaker 9 (30:18):
It's a crazy shot right there, and Blacko's a legend.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
But Lamar's just sitting there, not playing.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
Then Flacco injures his hip week eleven and Lamar at
twenty one years old, you're in, you're starting against the Bengals,
and he was electric from the get go.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
He's thirteen to nineteen.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
Passing it was fine, but he ran for over one
hundred yards and gave this whole stadium juice. It was
absolutely incredible to watch, and you're like, maybe he should
have been in earlier, or as John Harbaugh put it,
and maybe the best press conference of his career, maybe
he shouldn't have switched positions after all?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Taken away harps, Yeah, we're gonna throw the ball more
down the road. He's a great thrower.
Speaker 15 (30:56):
The guy can pass. You saw him throw.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
He threw great.
Speaker 15 (30:58):
He threw some great balls out there.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
How he plays? Did the kid make running around?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Throwing the ball in the pocket, throwing the ball?
Speaker 15 (31:03):
He can do it, all right? So all this veiled stuff,
is he really a thrower?
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I got news for you.
Speaker 15 (31:07):
He's a thrower. The kid can throw. He's a quarterback,
all right, he's a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
So all these little.
Speaker 15 (31:12):
Veiled questions and for the me, if anybody's out there,
all I can't believe Harves again. So I don't appreciate
the insinuation of the question. We will continue to see it.
Lamar Jackson is a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
That's a great moment.
Speaker 10 (31:26):
Josh had it all going on by the time we
got into his third season AFC Divisional Round. You know
the story the thirteen second game. It goes down as
one of the wildest, if not the best played Divisional
Round football games of all time.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But he never got a shot in overtime and they lost.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
And despite the game of his life, his bills were
said packing they'd lose the next year at home to Cincinnati,
and then they would lose the following year at home.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
To Kansas City.
Speaker 10 (31:54):
Loss after loss after loss. It's Josh Allen and that's
where he stood going into the twenty twenty four NFL season.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
Let's go back to twenty nine, because there was a
party all year long in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
This was Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 9 (32:08):
Watched this ready what this is a guy being the
best player in the league in his second season, an MVP.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
This was big trust was the rally cry.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
This was sunglasses on the sideline, an absolute takeover by
Lamar who didn't even start most of his rookie year,
but then one of the most shocking playoff losses of
the last decade, in which Baltimore is at home the
coolest team in the league and Mike Rabeles Titans with
Derrick Henry and AJ Brown and John news Smith and
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Ryan Tannehill smashed them twenty eight to twelve.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Lamar had nothing in this game.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
They just could not get anything going, and unfortunately, after
many rate regular seasons, this became a thing. Then they
went to Buffalo and Peter just talked about Josh Allen
on the playoffs. This is twenty twenty. This is the
COVID year. They didn't have much in this game either.
This was a huge plays interception right here by Arren
Johnson's one hundred and one yard interception return that Lamar
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just talked about this week, said he saw it online
and doesn't like to look at it.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
They lose the Buffalo, it's over. Then you know this one.
Let's go to the most recent history. Let's fast forward
to last year. After a dust up.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
With debolving a kicking tea with Kelsey and their kicker,
they again didn't have much.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Now this was much closer and much different.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
There was a massive play on the Giants right here
Zave Flowers, the rookie is going to score a touchdown
in this incredible punch out of the fumble. You talked
about it a lot. Jerriet sneed was really a game
saving play. And again in a season which they had
everything going for him, we're the best team in the
league where throwing helmets were losing to the Chiefs and
they come up short again.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
For Josh, this year does feel different, right. He's smiling,
he's having.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
More fun, he's throwing no look chess passes, and he's
objectively playing the best football of his entire life. He
is now engaged to the love of his life and
he did that during the season and he's got against
Kansas City and Detroit under his belt. Josh Allen has
it all going on. He is riding high. But Lamar
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Jackson Kyle is as well.
Speaker 9 (34:16):
Sure, it's been a hell of a year for Lamar.
I won the MVP last year and he was better
this year. You know how it started Week one, We're
gonna beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
We got it. I got likely to bet and nope,
toe on the line and that was it and they lose.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
The next week, they lose to the Raiders with Max Crosby,
but then they didn't do much losing after that at all.
You know what he started to do this year, Lamar
arrived on a signature play in fact, in which he
throws and then turns away. This is how cool Lamar
was this year. Didn't just do it once. It felt
like he did it every single week. Just throw the
ball into coverage. I got it, my guys, he was
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feeling it. He was the best player on the field.
He was probably the best player in the league. We
don't know if we went MVP for the third time.
He might's watching these highlights.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
He should.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
He's absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
And now that brings us up to speed. Lamar versus Josh.
Speaker 10 (35:05):
This weekend, same draft class twenty eighteen. These guys have
such intertwining roads, and yet they meet in the divisional
round and this game means everything. They will finish one
to two in the MVP voting, and yet only one
of them can advance to most likely play the guy
who's hovering above mister Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
We are so excited for this divisional round game.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Kyle.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Let's just play the hard thing.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Let's play the god.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Put your respects on, put your goggles on. You have
a prediction to make and you have to stand by it. Peter,
since I believe last week you are the one that
said Sean Payton was going to run some trickery on
a punt, you must go first in a segment that
we are calling divisional quest and you have to make
a prediction and stand by it.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
I'm looking at Max Crosby right now on my screen
the Raiders legend.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
That's right.
Speaker 10 (35:52):
I'm also think about his future head coach.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Ben Johnson. Yeah, I said it.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
Ben Johnson's gonna empty the bad Max going to the Bears.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
No, Max is not going to the Bears, Ben, I think's.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Going to Vegas.
Speaker 10 (36:02):
I also think he's gonna empty the bag on Saturday Night.
And I think he's gonna pull out a play that
we almost saw happen on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I think they actually do it this time.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
This is the play that I've been wanting to see
all year long from Johnson Penney Sewell from the wide
restraint on reverse saw the ball, Penne throw the ball.
I think that we're getting the thing you forget think.
I know we are getting a Penny Sewell passing attempt
this weekend against the commanders. Tom Brady on the call,
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maybe the future owner of this call, this play caller,
let's flex.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
A little bit.
Speaker 10 (36:37):
Penny Sewell on the reverse throws a pass that is
what I know will happen, and when it happens, please
tweet the show. I will give that little salute emoji
and then I will text Max Crosby on the side
and be.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Like, how cool was that?
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Dude.
Speaker 9 (36:51):
Well, I'm also gonna go Lions, but I'm gonna go
the two head coaches in this game, Dan Campbell and
Dan Quinn. There is an expression I want to use,
but I can't because it's too crafts and it's a
something about a swinging contest. Me too, man, These two
guys on fourth down are gonna be crazy. Dan Quinn
and Dan Campbell are gonna go for everything on fourth
down at every point.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Bring up the statistics.
Speaker 9 (37:13):
Nobody does it more, never mind DQ and his backwards
hot They're gonna do something nuts in their own territory.
And it's like, oh my god, it's fourth and seven
on her own twenty all right, So they have both
gotten exactly.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Twenty three on fourth down.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
The trait goes for it a little more, but Washington
does it a.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Little bit better.
Speaker 9 (37:29):
The trait scored six touchdowns off of it. All of
these things are all top five. These guys are nuts.
They're not playing here to lose twenty three to twenty.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
They are going to win.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
So if it's in the second quarter and Dan Quinn's
got or Dan Campbell's got a fourth and two from
his own fifteen yard line, he says, I think we
should go for it.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Man, Let's go. Man.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
There's also a sense of DQ on the other side.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
It's gonna be like, Oh, Campbell's really doing that today.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
I think I have to do it too, Cliff, what
do you got? Let's just dial it up.
Speaker 9 (37:55):
Fourth and fifteen from her own five yard I don't care.
It's gonna be a swing in contest, and who one
who wins?
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Who knows?
Speaker 9 (38:01):
Max Crosby get in here. By the way, Max, you
look great, you sound great. The feedbacks incredible. I love
that you're on the show to making Max doing awesome.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
I appreciate it. Boys. You guys are the best.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go a little different route. You know,
we've we've had a lot of conversation about Josh Allen
here today, but we're going to continue that trend. Got
Josh Allen. You know I've I've played him many times
and I respect his game at such a high level.
I think he's going to have at least three touchdowns
in the game.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
That's good.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
Passing rushing, he might have three, at least three, but
I think he's going to have an incredible game. I
think there's been a lot of talk back and forth about.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
The whole MVP situation.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
Some people are kind of like, now it's Lamar's you know, award.
I think he's gonna come out there and try to
make a make a big statement. I think he's going
to have a legendary performance.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
You're saying that the Buffalo Bills are gonna win. That's
what I was hearing, But I could be misinterpreted.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
You did say that on your pod this week.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
I got I'm misinterpreted. You've got Buffalo, we got I've
got Buffalo. Okay, all right, all right, here we go.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
You and I Max, we were talking about just pass
rushing during them mercial break and we're talking about this
Kansas City Chiefs game in the Houston Texans. The Houston Texans,
they're going up against the Monster, the guys who are
going for the trilogy. In the Kansas City Chiefs, I'm
going Will Anderson and of course Danil Hunter going up
and getting two sacks a piece against this Kansas City
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Chiefs offense.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
This is the.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Second most sacks that Patrick Mahomes has been under. Thirty
six sacks this season including the playoffs, This is the
second most in his career. This line offensive line has
gone through some shuffles and they've given up those sacks,
and Patrick Mahomes has been under a lot of duress.
I'm seeing these guys making a difference because I think
the only way that the Houston Texans are going to
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have an opportunity to win this game, those dudes have
to get off the edge. And Max you said it too,
don't count out the interior guys, because the interior guys
pull Ron Show Fatucasi.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
He's been making an impact.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
And of course ten Settle, can I take you to Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I feel like we haven't talked Ramsey Eagles enough. I
think there's a third guy in this MVP conversation that
even if he is gonna win Offensive Player of the Year,
that's great for Saquon Barkley, but the Rams story and
everything they have done over the last two weeks is
awesome and it's feel good and it's great for LA.
I think the Rams are gonna be up against it
with this Philadelphia offense. I think sa Barkley tastes blood
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when it comes to the playoffs. I think he wants
to win, and I know he is one of the
most humble, nicest guys on the block when it comes
to play. I wouldn't put it past Saguon Barkley if
he points right at a guy and even does a
little this kyle, which I know would fire you up.
If a hurdle, if a backward jump, if an angry run,
and he appears an angry round next week. I think
that Rams Eagles game is underrated and I can't wait
to see Saquon Barkley go off.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
It's gonna be an awesome.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Game, Damien.
Speaker 9 (40:44):
I like the way you're thinking, cross Ba, stay on fire,
Let's go another segment.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
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As always, it's Friday, January seventeenth. I'm Jamie heard all.
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This is off bar Bush, b Miller, Peter Schreker, Kyle Brandt,
Max Crost.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Yeah, writing early with us man with the rose gold.
Let's just appreciate you real quick man lead good.
Speaker 7 (00:45):
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (00:46):
Man. It's an honor to be here. I've been watching
the show for a long time, so finally got to
make the trip out here. You know, like I said,
boot it up a little bit.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
How's the jury? By the way, you know you had
surgery about a month ago.
Speaker 7 (00:57):
How is that going.
Speaker 8 (00:57):
It's going great. Rehab lifting, we're rolling like usual. So
it's just a little bit different right now. But been
doing incredible.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Okay, there it is. It is not diamond and crusted.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I know you were all curious, Peter, Kyle, how about
this guy at the table?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I know you're jealous.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Kyle.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I like that jacket.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
You think this looks good?
Speaker 9 (01:12):
Just remember when you're watching Lamar and the Baltimore Ravens
run around. This weekend, they lost to that dude. That
dude had two sacks on Lamar. The Raiders beat the
Ravens this year. We're going to talk about it all day, Peter.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
How fire it up?
Speaker 9 (01:23):
Are?
Speaker 10 (01:23):
We have McCunn and you watch Mahomes doing what he
doesn't against the Houston Texans. Go back a couple of
weekends on Thanksgiving weekend, that Friday game, Raiders almost won
that news because Max Crosby and his teammate's absolutely obliterated
that offensive line in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I think he knows the thing or too.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Let's come back about Mahomes.
Speaker 10 (01:38):
So we're excited to get to Max Crosby to talk
about all these games and the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
This episode.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Absolutely, it's time to dig right into truly the game
we've been talking about all week long.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's Bill's Ravens.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
You got to look at this game, you look at
these quarterbacks, you look at the characters involved, and all
of a sudden, Peter, we're talking about things that have.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Meeting this weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
One team will continue on the other one we'll pack
their bags and go home. Peter, does this game mean
more for the team that comes up victorious over the
weekend or the one that will be booking their trip
to Cabo.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I think you know. You talk about legacy and
what it would mean.
Speaker 10 (02:12):
Josh Allen hasn't been in an AFC Championship game in
quite some time. Lamar Jackson has never been to a
Super Bowl and has fallen short in the AFC Championship
This divisional round. This is the divisional round, which is
what we have to keep in context here. This game
feels like it's the biggest game in NFL history right
now because of the way these two players have been playing.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's just a divisional round.
Speaker 10 (02:32):
If you lose in the divisional round, you're watching the
AFC Championship Game and the Super Bowl from home, just
like you would of any other season. Despite the huge
statistical and memorable seasons that both these guys have. I
said it earlier in the week, and I got a
lot of blowback for it. I think it's the most
anticipated and game with highest stakes in the divisional round
in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I really mean that, and I mean it for these
two players.
Speaker 10 (02:54):
The seasons that they have cannot be discussed with hyperbole.
Do you know Lamar Jackson has twenty three touchdown passes
and one interception on the road this season. Do you
know that Josh Allen is doing this without Stefan Diggs,
without Gabe Davis and the other wide receivers on his
team right now, we're mostly injured at some point during
the season.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
All of these pieces lead up.
Speaker 10 (03:15):
To what I think will be number one and number
two in the MVP voting, and yet the loser goes
home and the loser has to watch for another three
weeks before we even crown an NFL Super Bowl champion.
The game that keeps coming up when I say it's
the most anticipated Divisional round game of all time is
two thousand and four when Manning and Brady went at
it in a Divisional round game in the snow up
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in Foxborough. But I have to set in the stage here.
Brady had already won too super bowls, Manning had already
won two MVPs, but Manny hadn't gotten to the big
one yet.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
And Brady and.
Speaker 10 (03:52):
The Boys showed that it was team over MVP, and
the team took care of Bns twenty to three. They
held Edward James to forty yards rushing, and it was
really the game that changed the rules forever. Bill Pollion
goes to the rules committee, there's a big conversation, and
they changed the pass interference rules entirely, and the five
yards and all that because of the way that the
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Patriots were covering the Cults in that game. I say
all this because that game had stakes, It had stakes,
and that if Manning lost, he had to carry that
label throughout his entire career.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Fortunately for Peyton Manning.
Speaker 10 (04:27):
Who not only defeat that label, overcome that label, but
he would do it two times over and he would
go on to be a Pro Football Hall of Famer
with two Super Bowl rings. For Alan or for Lamar,
to lose this game, you're starting at ground zero again
next year, and you've got to do it all over again,
and it's not even.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
In the championship round. I think this.
Speaker 10 (04:47):
Is a negative feeling here going into this, and I
have this doom and gloom, but it means so much
for the winner, but it really means a lot for
the loser because you're starting back up with OTAs in
March and April and you're back at square one.
Speaker 9 (05:00):
Peter, you're talking about steaks, and I know Max relates
to it. There's a moment in his media session this
week where one of the reporters asked, Josh Allen, you know,
how can you get past the relationship you guys have
with this divisional round And Josh is like, well, we
did play in a title game once. He's like, yeah,
but not for a while. It was a kind of
a weird exchange. And it's right. There's also this deal
about Lamar's not exactly mister playoffs either. Lamar Jackson has
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never thrown a road touchdown pass in the playoffs. Ever,
he's played two road playoff games. He'd not throw a
touchdown pass in either one of those games. He's gonna
have to break that streak. Then you have the Bills
nine and oho at home this year nine and oh
they don't lose at home. John Harbaugh has won more
road playoff games than anyone in history. Wow, in history, Belli,
check Lombardi, anybody you can name.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
John Harbaugh is one the most.
Speaker 9 (05:44):
Ever, this is like, there's something that's got to give thing,
And as much as we like to champion the positive
and everything, someone's probably gonna come up short in this game.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
This is not going to be forty six to.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Forty five and everybody plays beautifully, Someone's gonna throw a
bad pick, make a bad mistake. Maybe it's coaching, Maybe
someone mismanages the clock at the end of the game
and their team loses. There are so many state going on,
and Peter, you're right, the Peyton versus Brady thing, it
feels reminiscent of that because the winner is going to
go on face whoever they face, but the loser is
going to have months, if not years, if not the
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rest of their lives to look back on this game
about remember you went to Buffalo that one day, or
you host the Rams that one day and you threw
that pick in the red zone, and that's what you'll
be remembered by.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Max.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
This has got to fire you up.
Speaker 9 (06:27):
And as a defensive guy, all we're talking about is Dereck,
Henry Lamar and Josh Like, where does your mind go
on this?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
This game's huge.
Speaker 8 (06:34):
Yeah, there's so much on the line in this game.
You know, for both guys, I feel like you have
two MVP caliber quarterbacks. I think it's been a two
man race for the last two three months and so
much anticipation, so like you said, like a divisional round
game with this much at stake, I feel like it's
going to bring the best out. And it's also there's
going to be moments where you know, guys might have
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some low moments, you know what I mean. So everything's
at stake. Both these teams have legitimate Super Bowl aspiration,
so I think it's really possible that you know, he's
a regular season award when it comes to MVP, but
I feel like this can really solidify who that person's
going to be.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
Two guys that I've played many times, got a lot
of respect for, but Kareem always rises to the top.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
So it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Are we being too dramatic? Are we being too dramatic
with this question? With the quarterbacks? And you know him
so well, but like listening to the to Peter and
Kyle go and you're like, Wow, this is like we're.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Really building this thing up.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
The fact that we are talking legacy and the fact
that Kyle just said this quarterback loses might live with
it for the rest of their life, like not just
for the next five days. What does that How does
that question make you feel?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (07:37):
I feel like in the moment when you're when you're
right in it right now, I feel like everything's going
to be amplified. Of course, time heels, but at the
end of the day, when you know you're talking about
quarterback play, winning is all that matters. And as a player,
you know what I mean, that's that's that's your legacy.
So you know, people have had their their question marks
about Lamar in the playoffs. So I know he you know,
I know him well, and I know he's a he's
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a competitor and I know that's sitting in the back
of his head. But also I feel like this last
month everyone's been talking about, you know, Josh Allen's not
the MVP anymore, it's got to be the market and
so I know he's he's a competitor as well. It's like, okay,
I'm a show who's the real MVP. So I'm really
looking forward to it. Both of you know, obviously both
of them are incredible talents, but big moments are what
you know, you know, solidify you know, your legacy. So
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it is a divisional round. But even if this is
a first round matchup, I feel like these teams are
so talented and have so many, you know, good things
going for him that this is going to mean a lot.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
For sure.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
It's so hard because I know, for for athletes, for us,
like we start thinking and we don't forget that's the
one thing in a game that has so much impact. Kyle,
you're talking about it, and you're right, like it does
live with you because the thing is, you don't know
what next year is.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Going to be.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Like Peter you talked about starting from ground zero, like
we got to do this all over again. Every season
is so difficult. So there's a lot of pressure on
the fact that we're at this point because whoever wins
this has the best opportunity. I'm going to go ahead
and just say it out out front. They've got the
best opportunity to take down the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
This is it.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
So you know that if we get past this game,
this is it, we have that opportunity because there are
weakness in the armors for the Mighty Mighty Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
But I look at this and I'm.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Going as d Lineman Max, you know, like a team
that has a strong run game typically is going to
be the one that sets the tone and has the
best advantage. And I'm looking for the Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore Ravens,
that run defense is something that you've got to stop
and go. Wait, it's the number one run defense, and
it's the number one excuse me run rush defense and
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the number one rushing offense. You get those two combinations
that allows you to dominate the game. And that's what
the Ravens do well. But I will say this to
hear the respect that the coaches and that the players
give to Lamar Jackson because Lamar Jackson, I've been saying
this all season, He's like Kobe Bryant. And I want
you to take a listen to Ed Oliver and how
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his coach describes Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 11 (09:59):
Coach say is something that really stuck with me. And
he was like, he's like Kobe Bryant, and like how
you can't necessarily stop Kobe Bryan. Kobe Bryant's gonna get
his at some point. And that was a great analogy
to Lamar is gonna get his at some point and
we know that, and everybody knows that and everybody watching
those that we just have to limit him.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
And that was his coach, coach Edwards, who told him
that his assistant d line coach. You agree with the
the Kobe Bryant comparison.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
I mean, that's that's a big comparison. You know, I'm
a big Kobe guy. So that's that's that's with five rings,
that's the whole difference.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I like it.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
I think Lamar is incredible.
Speaker 10 (10:35):
I think that's it though, right Max, Like like, Lamar's
the mamba and mentality and all that is fine if
you don't have a ring. If you don't, it's hard
to say he's the Kobe Bryant, like he's a great talent.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
You said it, and I think it's so poignant.
Speaker 10 (10:49):
It might not be the case for a Justin Jefferson
or a Jamar Chase or a Max Crosby or a T. J.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Watt.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Quarterbacks. I'm sorry, the winds do matter.
Speaker 10 (10:58):
And a lot of us like, well, wins are not
a quarterback status when we look at this thing. At
the end of the day, it's like Eli Manning two
super Bowls and beat Tom Brady and those super bowls,
he's gonna be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
If Eli Manning doesn't win those two super Bowls and he.
Speaker 10 (11:09):
Doesn't have those playoff wins, it's probably not a Hall
of Famer like for quarterbacks, it is different and as
surface level as that sounds, this is a huge game
for the winner. It is a bigger game for the loser.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Okay, Max, Let's get to brass tacks.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Let's do this.
Speaker 9 (11:24):
Let's say you you got a five point lead and
there's ninety seconds left in the game. The other team's
just had a touchback. They come out, they got first
and ten, and they need to make a game winning
drive against you and your defense. Who would be tougher
to defend in that situation, Lamar or Josh.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
He got the hard hitting question.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Welcome, welcome.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
Yeah, I think I've played both of them, both incredible talents.
I played Josh. He was my first career college sack,
so no, w Yeah, I played him, so I know
him very well. But if I'm on defense, I might
I might say I'd rather go against Lamar. With all respect,
I mean, they're both incredible, but I think Josh Allen
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has shown it over and over again, even in the
losses to the Chiefs, you know, in those big games
in the playoffs, Josh Allen was still having career games.
He just didn't have the ball last So I feel
like Josh Allen. He's he's got the clutch geam for sure,
and he's so dangerous, you know, running and throwing the ball.
You can make all the throws. And also he's big
as me, you know, out there playing quarterback, So that
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that brings a whole another challenge.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
You got a general month year that those things happened,
because we have a really good library. I want to
see that video if you're getting Josh Allen in college?
When did that happen?
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah? It was. It was my red shirt freshman year.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
We played at Eastern Michigan and it should have been
a full sack, but he was, you know, that's as
strong and pulled me extra two yards and my teammate down.
It still counted and it was still my first one,
but it was. It was a half sack.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
And what year was that was?
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Twenty? I want to say sixteen?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Okay, oh yeah, yeah, we got to look it up.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
All right.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Max Frisby here with us for the entire show today
on GMF on NFL Network.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
This is awesome. We have a whole.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Segment dedicated to you in just a couple of minutes.
Until then, Ian Rappaport get in here NFL Network Insider
with us today I and the Ravens unfortunately could be
once again missing a massive weapon again on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
What's the latest is A Flowers?
Speaker 12 (13:20):
Yeah, it does seem like it is headed that way
for the Baltimore Ravens once again. Za Flowers did not
practice yesterday for the Ravens, actually has not practiced since
he suffered that Knie sprain a couple of weeks ago,
So only looking like he is going to miss this game.
And my understanding early on in the week was he
had a maybe outside chance of being out there unless
something crazy happens, unless he's able to practice ay and
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kind of push through.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It does not seem like that is the case.
Speaker 12 (13:44):
And then you know, you start to think about if
the Baltimore Ravens win, will he be available next week?
Hasn't practiced in a couple weeks If they get there,
obviously it's a good problem to have, but I would
say I think it's fair to say his status up.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
In the air moving forward for the Ravens.
Speaker 12 (13:58):
Meanwhile, for the Houston Texans, somewhat of a surprise this week,
Joe Mixon limited in practice a couple days ago, they
did not practice yesterday. Officially listed as questionable for the
Texan for Saturday's game against the Chiefs. My understanding, though
not a major injury, does have a very very real
chance to play, and I would say, barring something unforeseen,
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that probably is the way it goes. Damian Peers and
Daria Gumbwali are his backups more than capable backups. Mixing
is a Pro Bowl Texans absolutely need to have him
out in the field.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
All right, Ian, appreciate you. We are going to continue
to talk to Max. I has Ian never broken news
about you.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Max Crosby, I believe so okay a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
The face and answer to it rap sheet talk to
you in a little bit. We're going to keep talking. Josh, Allen,
Lamar Jackson. We got Max Crosby in studio. We got
to pick his brain about everything Raiders. But Kyle, what
do you have in store for us?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Who are you picking up all.
Speaker 9 (14:55):
Kinds of stuff? This is one of the best days
of the year, guys. It's it's divisional Eves plus Peter
and I are going to look back on the entire
career arcs of Josh, Josh and Lamar.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Same draft class, Peter, same draft class.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
A lot of history together too. But let's talk about
this dude, one of.
Speaker 10 (15:12):
My son's favorite players in the NFL. We got a
squeezy mate, the Jumbo con Ooh, this is the dude.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Max Crosby's in studio with us. Cannot wait to get
back with Max.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Good morning Football, Lamar Mahomes, Bo Nicks got him. That's
every time you see Max Crosby play. Look at what
this man has done in the NFL since he joined
the party in twenty nineteen, one hundred plus tackles for loss,
which is the most in that time span, nearly sixty
sacks and over five thousand career defensive snaps. To me,
that might be the most impressive one. That's impressive durability,
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and we're all hoping that Max Crosby gets right, gets healthy.
At surgery a month ago and he's working his way back.
He's on our set today on GMTB. He's wearing the boot,
he's got this cooter, but he's.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
In our chair for a couple of hours. Max, what's up?
Speaker 7 (16:07):
What's up? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (16:07):
I appreciate you guys having me absolutely, honor Peter.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
We got a line up of questions.
Speaker 10 (16:11):
Huh, yeah, this is where you step into the cauldourn
and we really greatly No.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Look, Mac, we're so happy to have you all.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Are we are, Mac, It means a lot to us.
Speaker 10 (16:18):
We're gonna ask first tell us about where you are
with your rehab, what time in the timeline, and then
if you can tell us where you are mentally with
the state of you and the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
You know, the the rehab has been going incredible. It'll
be about a four to four and a half month
deal till I'm fully healthy and cleared, So that's going incredible.
I'm already lifting, rehabbing in the building every day, a
getting after it. So I'll be walking next week. I've
been rolling around here on a scooter. It's definitely been
an adjustment, but yeah, you know, it's just part of
the process. So I'm doing incredible on that on that end,
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so yeah, I'm feeling really good about it and.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
Where we're at.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
But future of the Raiders, obviously, I think everybody kind
of knows what's going on. I mean, like I said,
I'm there every morning. You know, we just talked about it,
and it's very eerie around there. I would say, you
know a lot of a lot of new changes and
things like that. You know, obviously with the coach ap
you know, getting fired and Telasco as well. First off,
want to you know, shout out to those guys. They
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were incredible, you know, for me during my time there.
But yeah, you know, for me, I'm just just focused
on the day to day. You know, a lot of
things are out of my control, you know what I mean.
I'm gonna sit back and wait and see what happens.
But I'm just focused on my rehab right now, and
we'll take it one step at a time.
Speaker 10 (17:28):
Yeah, you're under contract still, but you know, I see
I only think of you as in Silver and Black.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But we announced you were coming on the show.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
You better believe Packers fans, you better believe Patriots.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
They all come out of the woodwork.
Speaker 10 (17:41):
And they're like match will look great and green and yellow,
like do those thoughts as you see all another transition
and another turnover and you enter another year in your
in your career, do those thoughts start going through your mind?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Or is it I'm silver and Black, let's go.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
You know, obviously it's it's hard to avoid seeing all
the noise and all those things, and you know, especially
Green Bay and Buffalo, some of these fan bases rabbit. Yeah,
they do not stop and I respect it, you know
what I mean. I love that. That's one thing I
love about being with the Raiders is the fan base
is rabid and they love football, you know what I mean.
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They'll do anything. They put the whole life into it.
So yeah, I see all those things. And for me
right now, I'm just focused on, like I said, my
process and my day to day and getting healthy. We're
going to see what happens with the coaching situation. You know,
I've been with the Raiders for six years. I'm currently
under contract, but I think you know, I've talked about
it before, Like I have no guarantee money left. There's
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a lot of things that need to be discussed, and
we're going to do that and focus on taking it
one step at a time and we'll move accordingly. So
for me, you know, I'm happy in general get to
spend some more time with my daughter, you know, around
this time of the year, and yeah, well we'll let
it all play out how it's supposed to. So regardless,
you know, I'm in a great place and you know,
We're gonna have those discussions here real soon.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
Cool. The other fan bases can try to recruit you
all you want, Max's you are the face of the
Raiders right now. It's a rare thing for defensive player,
especially when as young as you. You're the face of
the team and you have been through so much already.
I mean you've been through as coaches Gruden, Bisacia McDaniels,
now a p and now whoever's next. You must be
just craving stability. So there's a lot of names out there.
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This is not a political endorsement, just your reaction. How
do you feel about it? The headline name right now
that everybody keeps talking about is Ben Johnson, who coaches
this weekends the offense corner for the Lions.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
You know who he is.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
How do you feel about him if he were to
hypothetically come in and be your next head coach?
Speaker 8 (19:32):
You know, like I said, like in the in the past,
I've shared my thoughts and opinions on what you know,
what we think we should do, and I'm always going
to be that way. That's who I am. You know,
I'm very passionate about the Raiders in general. You know,
being in my position. You know, I feel like I've
earned that voice over the years with not only my production,
but you know what I've done in the building, and
that's a you know, being the first in, last out.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Every day, so that's that's a big part of it.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
But yeah, you know, Ben Johnson, you know a lot
of people are talking about it, and you hear rumors
and sometimes when there's smoke, there's a there's a fire.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
But we'll see, you know.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
And if you've heard Pete Carroll, you've heard some names
as well, and those guys are great coaches. So at
the end of the day, for the most important thing
to me, like you said, is stability and winning. You know,
I want a chance to actually win and be in
those games, be playing at this time of the year.
I know what I bring, you know, to the table
as a leader and as a player, and I want
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everybody else on board. And that's my main focus is
being in that environment. So whoever is going to, you know,
give the Raiders the best chance to do that, I'm
all on board for that. So we're going to see
how it turns out right now. You know, in the past,
I've stressed out about it and kind of you know,
try to worry too much. But at the end of
the day, like I'm gonna play, I'm in a different
place in my life right now. I'm extremely happy and
(20:44):
confident where I'm at, and I'm just gonna let her
play out the way it's supposed to. So well, we'll
see who. We'll see who's going to be the next
guy here?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Yeah, no stress, Let's let's get you excited.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
What's the one where you see it, you get a
text or you see it on the ticker announces the
new head coach of the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
There's names you mentioned them.
Speaker 9 (21:01):
What if mister Davis Gohson hires Deon Sanders, What if
mister Brady goes back and bring Bill Belichick?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
How do those names hit.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
You on a on a personal level. I've known Coach
Prime for a long time. My brother actually was roommates
with his son, Bucky Deon Jr. So they go way back.
So Deon's whole family. I remember seeing Shador when he
was a little kid. I was at their house in Texas. Really,
people don't know that I've known them for forever. So
I'm really close to Shador, Dion Junior, his whole family.
(21:27):
So Uh, they're they're great people. So yeah, I mean,
if Deon Sanders was my coach, how could I be mad?
Speaker 7 (21:35):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 8 (21:36):
So I've known him for a long time. And and also,
you know, like Coach Belichick, like we do, uh the
Let's Go podcast every every Tuesday. We release it on
Mondays and Tuesdays, and he's on that, so we we
get to spend some time together. And you know, we've
we've gone against each other and joint practices when Josh
McDaniels was here, so we got a mutual respect for
each other. So I mean, there's so many names you can,
(21:57):
you know, go back and forth. But like like I said,
for me, the work, none of that is ever a
complain for me. I'm always going to put the work
and I'm always gonna sacrifice to be in that position
to be the best version of me and the best
leader I can be. So whoever coach that is as
long as the ring stability and winning, that's all about, all.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Right, So let's put it to the fire. Because I'm
very passionate about about the Raiders. Grew up here in
Los Angeles, LA Raiders fan then had the great opportunity
to play for the Raiders that, like, the Raiders mean
a lot to me. We need to have a state
of the Raider nation here. But I know you don't
want to put yourself in a bad position, but you
can play general manager since we don't have a general
(22:37):
manager at this point if you had to, who do
you think if you had to make that choice, who
do you think makes the biggest cultural change in the
locker room? You know Dion Sanders, there's even a Nick
Saban out there as well, But what type of coach
when you think about Dion Sanders, Like who makes that
cultural change that gets everybody smoking cigars.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
In the locker room like ap after that win? You know,
like who does that for you?
Speaker 8 (23:02):
I wish I wish I knew you know for me
at the end of the day, Like history speaks for itself,
and like you see what Ben Johnson's been able to
do with Dan Campbell, those guys have created magic out
there in Detroit. And Ben Johnson's probably the best play
call in football right now. So the cultural part of it,
like it's no secret, Like he hasn't been a head coach,
but Sean mcgabel wasn't a head coach before he got
with the Rams, and there's a lot of guys that
(23:23):
come in and become incredible at that. So I can't
sit there and say, yeah, he's going to be a
great head coach and he's never done it. But it's
not that I don't believe in him, and it's not
that he has a potential to be one of the
best coaches in the league. So guy like Ben Johnson's incredible,
Pete Carroll, he's one of four coaches all time to
ever one. I want to pick one o Caroselve.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
But we'll see.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
But like Pete Carroll, like he's one of four coaches
all time to win a National Championship and a Super Bowl.
So that guy has won everywhere he want. So I
look at all those things and for me, like I'm
heavily involved. Like I said, I'm at peace and I'm happy.
But like I do my homework too, I'm sitting there like,
all right, what's this guy bring to the table? Who's
the decord and who would he possibly bring? I think
about that with Ben Johnson, I want to Yeah, this
is my life. That's all I think about war.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
It's my brain.
Speaker 8 (24:04):
Besides my time with Ella and Rach and my two
k time at home.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
So, well, you're on our show for a reason. You
want to hang and talk football for a couple of hours.
You're gonna be on game day morning all weekend long,
which is great. You clearly will sit and watch and
unpack the teams that are playing this weekend. One of
them is your hometown Detroit Lions.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
How do you.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Feel about the way that this thing has been built
in Detroit and just your relationship with that logo?
Speaker 8 (24:27):
You know, it kind of bothers me, you know, because
I had to wait my whole childhood for them to
be good. Now that I'm in the league, I'm another
will contend it so selfishly, I'm kind of mad at them,
you know what I mean. But in all realness, seeing
what Dan Campbell is built, hearing what those guys say
about him. You know, Meek Robertson, former teammates out there,
Pat O'Connor was my teammate at Eastern Michigan. He's there
(24:49):
with Detroit, and everybody says the same thing. They're like,
I hope one day, you know, you just get to,
you know, be able to be in that locker room
with coach Campbell. Like he's incredible. They said, he'll literally
die for the players, Like he lives by that. The
things you see in the in the locker room, post
game and the interviews and everything, like that's who he is.
You know, people kind of clowned him at first or like,
you know, the knee caps and all this stuff is
(25:10):
out out of this world. But like he truly lives
by that. And I know that for a fact. So
it's incredible to see. And just for the city of Detroit.
My mom was born, you know, raised in Detroit, my
you know, aunts and uncles. I grew up in Michigan,
right down the street. It's incredible to see for the
city because it's been some long years and the Lions
haven't won a long time. And I see the Pistons winning,
the Red Wings are winning, even the Tigers. Tigers are
(25:36):
back when and I'm like, damn, I'm like now I'm
in Vegas my childhood I was in in You.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Know, you can still appreciate far.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
We appreciate Max, you coming on and just being with
us all day today, Max Crosby, everybody on GMF be well.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Happy Friday, everybody. I'm sheery burst.
Speaker 13 (25:52):
The Lions securing the one seed in the NFC Playoffs,
giving running back David Montgomery an extra week to achieve
his goal of returning for the divisional round.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
It looks like that paid off.
Speaker 13 (26:03):
Montgomery officially removed from the Lions injury report, appears to
be good to go for Saturday's game against the Commanders
in Montgomery. He has been out since his injury back
in week fifteen.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
He hurt his knee.
Speaker 13 (26:15):
But we do have some good news for the Commanders
as well. Linebacker Bobby Wagner limited a practice Thursday after
missing the previous two days with an ankle injury. He's
expected to play in this game against Detroit. And Eagles
players Cooper Dejean and Thomas Book recently volunteering at Leveling
the Playing Field, a nonprofit redistributed sports equipment to under
(26:38):
resourced youth athletic programs. The Eagles players teamed up with
local high school football players. They sorted, and they cleaned
donated sporting goods. This will be redistributed to young athletes
across the Philadelphia area.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
We'll coming up.
Speaker 13 (26:52):
Next Kyle and Peter diving into the huge quarterback matchup
between the MVP front runners. Mar Jackson then Josh Allen,
So don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
Welcome back to Good Morning Football. We have the Divisional
round game of the century. But if you have that
big a.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Matchup, you have to have an origin story. We have two.
Speaker 9 (27:24):
Peter and I decided before we get to the game
of Bills versus Ravens this weekend, we want to look
back at these two quarterbacks. Peter tell the story, how
they're intertwined, how they're gonna end up facing each other.
And we Drew Straws, I'm gonna do Lamar, Peter's gonna
do Josh.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I am?
Speaker 10 (27:38):
And let's go back to the twenty eighteen NFL. Here
we go, because in the twenty eighteen NFL Draft there
were four household name quarterbacks from the college game. Sam
Darnold and Josh Frozen were the two superstars from southern
California who you watched on Saturdays all season long.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
Baker Mayfield was the big name and the bigger.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Personality from Oklahoma.
Speaker 10 (27:59):
And there was Lamar Jackson, the super athlete with a Heisman
Trophy guy.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
There was Josh Allen.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
He was from Wyoming via a farmtown in Fireball, California.
He was a complete unknown, yet he was no Chalamey.
The Bills traded up to get him, and there was
hope that this small town, little known prospect with this
cannon for an arm, could be the savior to a
(28:27):
Bill's franchise that hadn't won a playoff game since the
nineteen nineties.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
I'll tag in now.
Speaker 9 (28:34):
Remember Lamar won the Heisman as a sophomore. He returns
for his junior year, and he was sensational. But coming
out of the draft there's a lot to chew on.
He did not have an agent, he did not run
a forty at the combine, and it was openly suggested
by many that he should switch to wide receiver. Lamar
Jackson ends up being the fifth quarterback taken. The Ravens,
(28:55):
after taking titand Hayden Hurst at twenty five, had to
trade back into the first round with the Eagles. They
took Lamar at thirty two, and the second he was drafted,
he talked to Dion Sanders and Lamar was pissed off.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
I can see it in your eyes.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I can see you a little bit upset, little the Turk.
But guess what, I'm here.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
You're here.
Speaker 14 (29:16):
I'm a rave his own all year every year. Yes, sir,
they gonna get a Super Bowl out of me. Leader, Leader,
it's the best. Josh Allen showed flashes early. That was
the play he hurdled over Anthony Barr in.
Speaker 10 (29:31):
A shocking win in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And then the guy would make these huge throws.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
And in his second season, he took the Bills to
the playoffs, only to see the Texans come from all
the way behind and win in heartbreaking fashion for Buffalo fans. Look,
there was an AFC championship game in the very next
year in Arrowhead.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
There's another loss, but it was year three, year three that.
Speaker 10 (29:56):
Was coming, and that's when the sky was the limit.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Meanwhile, rookie Lamar mostly stood around. This is a great.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
Gas, Lamar, You're out, get out, get out.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
You're not in the huddle. He's running off the field.
He did not play much.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
He was in there a little bit, either in mop
up duty or cameos or little spot duty, but he
mostly stood on the sideline or sat next.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
To Joe Flacco like that.
Speaker 9 (30:18):
It's a crazy shot right there, and Blacko's a legend.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
But Lamar's just sitting there, not playing.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
Then Flacco injures his hip week eleven and Lamar at
twenty one years old, you're in, you're starting against the Bengals,
and he was electric from the get go.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
He's thirteen to nineteen.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
Passing it was fine, but he ran for over one
hundred yards and gave this whole stadium juice. It was
absolutely incredible to watch, and you're like, maybe he should
have been in earlier, or as John Harbaugh put it,
and maybe the best press conference of his career, maybe
he shouldn't have switched positions after all?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Taken away harps, Yeah, we're gonna throw the ball more
down the road. He's a great thrower.
Speaker 15 (30:56):
The guy can pass. You saw him throw.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
He threw great.
Speaker 15 (30:58):
He threw some great balls out there.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
How he plays? Did the kid make running around?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Throwing the ball in the pocket, throwing the ball?
Speaker 15 (31:03):
He can do it, all right? So all this veiled stuff,
is he really a thrower?
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I got news for you.
Speaker 15 (31:07):
He's a thrower. The kid can throw. He's a quarterback,
all right, he's a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
So all these little.
Speaker 15 (31:12):
Veiled questions and for the me, if anybody's out there,
all I can't believe Harves again. So I don't appreciate
the insinuation of the question. We will continue to see it.
Lamar Jackson is a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
That's a great moment.
Speaker 10 (31:26):
Josh had it all going on by the time we
got into his third season AFC Divisional Round. You know
the story the thirteen second game. It goes down as
one of the wildest, if not the best played Divisional
Round football games of all time.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But he never got a shot in overtime and they lost.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
And despite the game of his life, his bills were
said packing they'd lose the next year at home to Cincinnati,
and then they would lose the following year at home.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
To Kansas City.
Speaker 10 (31:54):
Loss after loss after loss. It's Josh Allen and that's
where he stood going into the twenty twenty four NFL season.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
Let's go back to twenty nine, because there was a
party all year long in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
This was Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 9 (32:08):
Watched this ready what this is a guy being the
best player in the league in his second season, an MVP.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
This was big trust was the rally cry.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
This was sunglasses on the sideline, an absolute takeover by
Lamar who didn't even start most of his rookie year,
but then one of the most shocking playoff losses of
the last decade, in which Baltimore is at home the
coolest team in the league and Mike Rabeles Titans with
Derrick Henry and AJ Brown and John news Smith and
(32:37):
Ryan Tannehill smashed them twenty eight to twelve.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Lamar had nothing in this game.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
They just could not get anything going, and unfortunately, after
many rate regular seasons, this became a thing. Then they
went to Buffalo and Peter just talked about Josh Allen
on the playoffs. This is twenty twenty. This is the
COVID year. They didn't have much in this game either.
This was a huge plays interception right here by Arren
Johnson's one hundred and one yard interception return that Lamar
(33:04):
just talked about this week, said he saw it online
and doesn't like to look at it.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
They lose the Buffalo, it's over. Then you know this one.
Let's go to the most recent history. Let's fast forward
to last year. After a dust up.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
With debolving a kicking tea with Kelsey and their kicker,
they again didn't have much.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Now this was much closer and much different.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
There was a massive play on the Giants right here
Zave Flowers, the rookie is going to score a touchdown
in this incredible punch out of the fumble. You talked
about it a lot. Jerriet sneed was really a game
saving play. And again in a season which they had
everything going for him, we're the best team in the
league where throwing helmets were losing to the Chiefs and
they come up short again.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
For Josh, this year does feel different, right. He's smiling,
he's having.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
More fun, he's throwing no look chess passes, and he's
objectively playing the best football of his entire life. He
is now engaged to the love of his life and
he did that during the season and he's got against
Kansas City and Detroit under his belt. Josh Allen has
it all going on. He is riding high. But Lamar
(34:14):
Jackson Kyle is as well.
Speaker 9 (34:16):
Sure, it's been a hell of a year for Lamar.
I won the MVP last year and he was better
this year. You know how it started Week one, We're
gonna beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
We got it. I got likely to bet and nope,
toe on the line and that was it and they lose.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
The next week, they lose to the Raiders with Max Crosby,
but then they didn't do much losing after that at all.
You know what he started to do this year, Lamar
arrived on a signature play in fact, in which he
throws and then turns away. This is how cool Lamar
was this year. Didn't just do it once. It felt
like he did it every single week. Just throw the
ball into coverage. I got it, my guys, he was
(34:49):
feeling it. He was the best player on the field.
He was probably the best player in the league. We
don't know if we went MVP for the third time.
He might's watching these highlights.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
He should.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
He's absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
And now that brings us up to speed. Lamar versus Josh.
Speaker 10 (35:05):
This weekend, same draft class twenty eighteen. These guys have
such intertwining roads, and yet they meet in the divisional
round and this game means everything. They will finish one
to two in the MVP voting, and yet only one
of them can advance to most likely play the guy
who's hovering above mister Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
We are so excited for this divisional round game.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Kyle.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Let's just play the hard thing.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Let's play the god.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Put your respects on, put your goggles on. You have
a prediction to make and you have to stand by it. Peter,
since I believe last week you are the one that
said Sean Payton was going to run some trickery on
a punt, you must go first in a segment that
we are calling divisional quest and you have to make
a prediction and stand by it.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
I'm looking at Max Crosby right now on my screen
the Raiders legend.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
That's right.
Speaker 10 (35:52):
I'm also think about his future head coach.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Ben Johnson. Yeah, I said it.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
Ben Johnson's gonna empty the bad Max going to the Bears.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
No, Max is not going to the Bears, Ben, I think's.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Going to Vegas.
Speaker 10 (36:02):
I also think he's gonna empty the bag on Saturday Night.
And I think he's gonna pull out a play that
we almost saw happen on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I think they actually do it this time.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
This is the play that I've been wanting to see
all year long from Johnson Penney Sewell from the wide
restraint on reverse saw the ball, Penne throw the ball.
I think that we're getting the thing you forget think.
I know we are getting a Penny Sewell passing attempt
this weekend against the commanders. Tom Brady on the call,
(36:32):
maybe the future owner of this call, this play caller,
let's flex.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
A little bit.
Speaker 10 (36:37):
Penny Sewell on the reverse throws a pass that is
what I know will happen, and when it happens, please
tweet the show. I will give that little salute emoji
and then I will text Max Crosby on the side
and be.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Like, how cool was that?
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Dude.
Speaker 9 (36:51):
Well, I'm also gonna go Lions, but I'm gonna go
the two head coaches in this game, Dan Campbell and
Dan Quinn. There is an expression I want to use,
but I can't because it's too crafts and it's a
something about a swinging contest. Me too, man, These two
guys on fourth down are gonna be crazy. Dan Quinn
and Dan Campbell are gonna go for everything on fourth
down at every point.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Bring up the statistics.
Speaker 9 (37:13):
Nobody does it more, never mind DQ and his backwards
hot They're gonna do something nuts in their own territory.
And it's like, oh my god, it's fourth and seven
on her own twenty all right, So they have both
gotten exactly.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Twenty three on fourth down.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
The trait goes for it a little more, but Washington
does it a.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Little bit better.
Speaker 9 (37:29):
The trait scored six touchdowns off of it. All of
these things are all top five. These guys are nuts.
They're not playing here to lose twenty three to twenty.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
They are going to win.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
So if it's in the second quarter and Dan Quinn's
got or Dan Campbell's got a fourth and two from
his own fifteen yard line, he says, I think we
should go for it.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Man, Let's go. Man.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
There's also a sense of DQ on the other side.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
It's gonna be like, Oh, Campbell's really doing that today.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
I think I have to do it too, Cliff, what
do you got? Let's just dial it up.
Speaker 9 (37:55):
Fourth and fifteen from her own five yard I don't care.
It's gonna be a swing in contest, and who one
who wins?
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Who knows?
Speaker 9 (38:01):
Max Crosby get in here. By the way, Max, you
look great, you sound great. The feedbacks incredible. I love
that you're on the show to making Max doing awesome.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
I appreciate it. Boys. You guys are the best.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go a little different route. You know,
we've we've had a lot of conversation about Josh Allen
here today, but we're going to continue that trend. Got
Josh Allen. You know I've I've played him many times
and I respect his game at such a high level.
I think he's going to have at least three touchdowns
in the game.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
That's good.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
Passing rushing, he might have three, at least three, but
I think he's going to have an incredible game. I
think there's been a lot of talk back and forth about.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
The whole MVP situation.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
Some people are kind of like, now it's Lamar's you know, award.
I think he's gonna come out there and try to
make a make a big statement. I think he's going
to have a legendary performance.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
You're saying that the Buffalo Bills are gonna win. That's
what I was hearing, But I could be misinterpreted.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
You did say that on your pod this week.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
I got I'm misinterpreted. You've got Buffalo, we got I've
got Buffalo. Okay, all right, all right, here we go.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
You and I Max, we were talking about just pass
rushing during them mercial break and we're talking about this
Kansas City Chiefs game in the Houston Texans. The Houston Texans,
they're going up against the Monster, the guys who are
going for the trilogy. In the Kansas City Chiefs, I'm
going Will Anderson and of course Danil Hunter going up
and getting two sacks a piece against this Kansas City
(39:24):
Chiefs offense.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
This is the.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Second most sacks that Patrick Mahomes has been under. Thirty
six sacks this season including the playoffs, This is the
second most in his career. This line offensive line has
gone through some shuffles and they've given up those sacks,
and Patrick Mahomes has been under a lot of duress.
I'm seeing these guys making a difference because I think
the only way that the Houston Texans are going to
(39:46):
have an opportunity to win this game, those dudes have
to get off the edge. And Max you said it too,
don't count out the interior guys, because the interior guys
pull Ron Show Fatucasi.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
He's been making an impact.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
And of course ten Settle, can I take you to Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I feel like we haven't talked Ramsey Eagles enough. I
think there's a third guy in this MVP conversation that
even if he is gonna win Offensive Player of the Year,
that's great for Saquon Barkley, but the Rams story and
everything they have done over the last two weeks is
awesome and it's feel good and it's great for LA.
I think the Rams are gonna be up against it
with this Philadelphia offense. I think sa Barkley tastes blood
(40:21):
when it comes to the playoffs. I think he wants
to win, and I know he is one of the
most humble, nicest guys on the block when it comes
to play. I wouldn't put it past Saguon Barkley if
he points right at a guy and even does a
little this kyle, which I know would fire you up.
If a hurdle, if a backward jump, if an angry run,
and he appears an angry round next week. I think
that Rams Eagles game is underrated and I can't wait
to see Saquon Barkley go off.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
It's gonna be an awesome.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Game, Damien.
Speaker 9 (40:44):
I like the way you're thinking, cross Ba, stay on fire,
Let's go another segment.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Come on, baby,
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.