February 24, 2025 • 43 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with the future of Matt Stafford with the Rams. Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Peter Schrager, Manti Te'o, and Cody Kessler discuss the options Sean McVay would have at QB if Stafford left. Peter rolls back his Combine picks from last year to see how these rookies performed in the NFL. Which potential NFL Draft picks made an impression this past weekend at the HBCU Legacy Bowl? Plus, Manti and Cody look back at their NFL Combine experiences.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
That's right, this is Good Morning Football. Welcome in everybody.
We're live in LA and New York and most importantly
this week, Indianapolis Today on GMF. It's Monday, February twenty
fourth five. This is Manti Teo. There's Peter Schreger in
New York. I'm Jamie Ertl and welcome to our table
this week. Cody Kessler. What up, Cody say? Thanks Cody?
(00:44):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Oh? I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I already kind of gave my spiel at the beginning early.
I'll give a little bit more. But no, it's been
a blast. I'll just talking to them off camera. It's
just when you do new things like this, you start broadcasting.
I've always loved the show. I'm watching it a ton.
You never know it's going to go. But the set,
the crew, everyone will involved has been amazing. It's been
a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Well for those.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Checking in from their cubicle nine am, Easterns saym West Coast.
Cody Kesler, USC quarterback is drafted by the Browns, made
a couple of stops and now you've been doing broadcasting
though for what in the last couple of years?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah, last three years.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I was kind of going back and forth between if
I wanted to coach. You know, I got done playing
in the NFL, I retired, I walked away, and you know,
football as mental outa you kind of always pulled at
your heart a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
It's tough to fully walk away.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I was going to get into coaching, and then sat
down with Mark Sanchez, who very good friend of mine,
was talking about, Hey, you know, college coaching is an
eleven and a half month job. There's really no free time.
Try this broadcasting thing out. So my agent reached out
to USC and they were very gracious and you know,
I know Mantai doesn't know about this because you went
to the wrong school, but the Trojan family is very
welcoming out. Yeah, they invited me out to do a
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couple of pregame show, we do a podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
And all that, and I kind of fell in love
with it.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
And now I'm here doing this and you guys been amazing,
So I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Really cool.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
I would say, you know, the thing about so great
about our GMMFB fam is. This is the closest that
you'll see an irishman and a Trojan true and the
same family.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (02:00):
This is just unheard of.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
Only on GMMTB can I meet a a guy, just
a USC quarterback. Guys, USC quarterback, not of the linebacker.
Speaker 8 (02:08):
We don't get along. But here on GMFP this is
my brother.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Hey, and and Anti Manti showed me around.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Actually I had to scratch. I thought I was dreaming.
He said, hey, let me show you on the set.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Bro Peter, your thoughts on this table today.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Cody, Uh, Now that we have you at the table,
will you properly admit to Mantiitao that the the pushing
of Reggie Bush into the NAB should have been called?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I don't, I don't. I don't know if we're gonna
I don't know what's pumping up here. That was perfectly legal.
That was a great call. I love that play.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
That fourth and Night was amazing too. To Dwayne Jarrett,
so love that. I'm sticking by that and the Bush
push lives forever in.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
The USC legacy. I was I was a USC fan
back then. We know everybody know I was the fan
back then.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I was a Notre Dame fan.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
All Right, guys, you have all week together, Okay, don't
burn through all the topics right now, all right, cause
let's check in in Indianapolis. Todd Helasaro is there all
week because the next is here. It's the NFL Scout
and Combine happening on NFL Network. I love the video,
the vintage video and the names Tom that have come
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from combines of the past, perhaps like a matt Stafford
who is throwing back in the day in Indy. Where
was he going to go? We've watched his career unfold.
Does it continue in LA next year?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Tom Jamie? What I would tell you is that conversations
are ongoing between the Rams, Matthew staff and his representatives,
and other teams about exactly where Matthew Stafford is going
to be playing in twenty twenty five. Here's what has
occurred over the past couple of weeks. The Rams gave
his agent, Jimmy Sexton, permission to speak with other teams
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about what those teams would do on a new contract
for Matthew Stafford, who's only due twenty seven million dollars,
well below the median of the quarterback market. In twenty
twenty five. That serves a dual purpose. It allows Stafford
and his agent to get a good feel for the
marketplace of what he could get elsewhere, but also gives
the RAMS a foundation for knowing what a new deal
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should look like if Stafford is to return to LA.
I'm told the Rams also now have engaged with some
of those other teams. There are multiple interested trade compensation
has been discussed. There is nothing imminent as of this moment,
but certainly the Rams are getting their duction in a
row to be able to make a decision sooner than
rather than later on what direction this is going to go.
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Matthew Stafford has a roster bonus that is due on
the third day of the league year on March fourteenth.
That serves as a trigger of sorts for them to
make a decision. Though, when you're talking about all the
moving parts in this quarterback marketplace, from Aaron Rodgers to
Kirk Cousins and certainly Matthew Stafford, making decisions sooner rather
than later would be something that would benefit everyone. So
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this remains a fluid situation with Matthew Stafford and LA.
My understanding has been that the RAMS priority was to
get something done with Matthew Stafford in LA but there
might come a point and a number at which it
just doesn't make sense for them to do that deal
and pivot in a new direction with a young team.
We shall see everybody, not the Rams. They don't come
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to the combine, these other teams in one place, including
Agents through the course of this week. This could ramp
up here as we move forward.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I love how we were talking last hour time about
teams that get together in the different rooms around Indy
and they meet at the bars and the restaurants. The
fact that the Rams just straight up don't show up
at the combine yet, this is a very important piece
of the freegency.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
We can't be watching for Rams brass to see who
they're talking to all week in Indie. Tom Pelsaro, thank
you very much. There is no one more locked in
with the Rams, frankly around the league than of course
our own Peter Schrager Triggs. When it looks at Stafford,
When you look at the Rams and how they're built,
do you really envision a world in which they do
not have this quarterback playing for them next year?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah? I know. Anytime I do speak on the Rams,
and specifically on Stafford and McVeigh like yours, perk up
and I want everyone to listen in that those guys
actually have a fine relationship. This was nothing that is
between them personally, and this is a This is a
money issue, and Matthew Stafford wants to be paid what
he thinks he's worth. He wants to be paid more
than fifty million dollars. They've given the agent, Jimmy Sexon,
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one of the best agents in all of football, both
college football with the coaches and of course in the
NFL with coaches and players. They've given him the freedom
to go seek out what might be some teams that
would be of interest and if those teams would pay him.
And guess what, there are teams that are willing to
pay him more than what the Rams are currently willing
to pay him. The question is does Stafford want to
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go to those teams and what are those teams willing
to give up. It's all very awkward because McVeigh and
Stafford may end up together, and it's just like, well,
that was water under the bridge, that was business. We
got to keep the emotional side separate from the business side. Here,
truth of the matter is Matthew Stafford was one pass
away from playing an NFC championship game at home against
the Washington Commanders this year. That guy can steal ball.
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And if you don't think he's one of the top
nine quarterbacks in the NFL currently, well then you're thinking
he's not worth fifty million dollars. And that's really where
we're starting that number. Fifty million. Last year, the Rams
borrowed money from future years to pay him a pay bump.
They're not going to do it again this year, and
they are currently paying him less than fifty million dollars.
So you look at the teams and you look at
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the options for the Rams, say you trade him to
the Steelers. Are the Steelers willing to give a first
or second round pick and pay Matthew Stafford fifty plus
million dollars? And it's Stafford willing to go play in
Pittsburgh in the cold weather? And is Kelly and the
four girls, are they going to want to go move
out to Pittsburgh? How about the Giants. Giants, they're not
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giving up the third overall pick, but would they be
willing to give up the thirty fourth overall pick and
pay him fifty five million dollars. If that's the case,
does that make sense? The Raiders are an option? Who knows?
You can go down the list. The issue with this
year for Stafford is if they do trade Matthew Stafford,
there are quarterbacks who would likely love to play for
the Rams. Aaron Rodgers lives in Malibu in the offseason.
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You don't think he'd want to just mix it up
for a discounted price and play with Sean mcvagh for
a year. Of course he would, So who has the
leverage here? Where are they going to go? Jimmy Garoppolo?
They could pay ten million, and McVeigh by think I
could win gabs at Garoppola. It's a really tough, awkward
situation because there is a real friendship, they have a
Super Bowl Championship together, and there's no real bad blood
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at the moment. But the longer this thing proceeds, the
UGLIERC could get. I don't know if I could envision
a world where the Rams go on without Stafford. I
think everyone would love Stafford to come back, but I
don't think the Rams are going to break their back
to pay Matthew Stafford top dollar. And if he's okay,
with that to go pursue a Super Bowl fine, and
if he's not, no shame in that, go get the
money you think you deserve.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Peter, this doesn't feel as sexy or dramatic as two
years ago with Rogers leaving Green Bay, but the fact
that you brought his name up now departing the New
York Jets, I just wrote this question on a card
to Manti and just was like, how does this feel
to you? Which is is Stafford do you feel like
in a better place physically or maybe in his career
then Rogers was two years ago leaving Green Bay. To
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your point, like, what does he warrant in the trade market?
Is that a parallel to look at these two guys
just within this most recent window in terms of value
and what they should be demanding.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, Jamie, I think it's a great question, and that's
what the Rams are going to have to figure out.
And that's what Jimmy sex in the Agent is kind
of seating out here. Look, the Giants and the Raiders
would love Matthew Stafford under center. I believe it, But
those guys have top ten picks. I don't think they're
willing to trade a top ten pick. So are you
saying a second round pick and then they've got to
take the load of his contract and pay him. Perhaps
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I would add this on the Rogers Stafford comparison. Matthew
Stafford's five and two in the playoffs as a quarterback
for the Los Angeles Rams. Aaron Rodgers lost those last
few years as a quarterback for the Green Bay Packers,
and did so while talking on the way out. Stafford
doesn't seem like he's unhappy with the situation with the roster.
It doesn't seem like he's unhappy with McVeigh. Just wants
to get paid.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, I don't see the Rams moving on. I think
Peter hit the nail on the head right th that
was perfectly said. I just in with that contract too,
and I'm Treggs and Tom can correct me if I'm wrong.
But twenty seven million, right, four million of that is bonus.
The other twenty three million none of that is guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Right.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
They moved money from this year to last year to
pay him forty million guaranteed. That's where the big you
know hole is right now between the Rams and Matthew Stafford,
is this, Yeah, I'm not getting guaranteed money, and I
just took a young roster to Philadelphia and bad weather
and was like, like Peter said, one play away from
going to you know and moving on to the next round.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And he's played good football.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
He's continuing to get better, which is crazy because when
you have a guy who gets in his late thirties
in the NFL, you normally start to think, Okay, they're
going on their decline a little bit, they're on the
back half.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Of their year. I remember when I was training out
in California.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Back in Los Angeles, back when I was playing in
the NFL, I would go out early and we trained
with the same guy named Tom House three DQB Adam.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Dato is kind of the group that does it now.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
I would go out there early because of I could
watch Matthew Safford throw before my session.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Right, he would go in the group before me.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I still think to this day he's one of the
most underrated quarterbacks in the NFL of all time when
it comes to.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Just a peer passer.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I mean, look back at Detroit, right, they didn't have
a lot of success in the playoffs. They didn't have
a lot of success. And you know, when you keep
someone that long it's because maybe there's a Super Bowl Wanner,
They're seeing a lot of leins and they're you know,
taking it to the next step.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
They kept them purely because.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Of how talented he was and how good he was
at making the guys around him better. Right, he had
Calvin Johnson, some good players, but he's doing the same
thing right now in Los Angeles with a young roster
who everyone pretty much rode off at the beginning of
the year.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
And I was I'm guilty.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I'll put my hand up and say, hey, I think
this is going to be a down year. Stafford's gone.
Next year, it's a rebuild. What's going to happen?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
He turned it around and showed and reminded.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
People I'd rather say who he is and took this
team to the Division round of playoffs.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
And like I said, one play away from beating the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Champs, Yeah, one play away. Talking about that play, if Jalen.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Carter gets blocked, who knows the Rams might be the
ones in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Because he don't.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Everybody forgets that they had a tight end running a
little whippro that on that play that was wide open.
And if Matt Stafford had the time and Jalen Carter
didn't come unblocked.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
Who knows what happened to make thing?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
If Jalen Carter goes on blocked, you got to staff
the guy.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Well no, he literally was the center slid away from
him like the guy didn't even nobody even blocked him.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
So he is unblocked. So for me, does Matt Stafford
move on? Does the Rams keep Matt Stafford?
Speaker 7 (12:01):
You better keep Matt Stafford, guys, he has two years
left on his track.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Why would you even.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Let him go?
Speaker 8 (12:05):
Now? Why would those discussions? I get where they're trying to.
They're trying to see where everybody is at what the
price would be.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
The thing is this, guys, Matt Stafford has only missed
one game in the past two years. For you, he's
won a Super Bowl for you. You're about to get rid
of Cooper Cup. Now, if you get rid of Cooper Cup, Pooking,
the coup is left pook In. The cop has already
expressed how much he loves Matt Stafford, He's already expressed
how perfect the ball is for him. So if you
get rid of Matt Stafford, what does that mean for Pookin?
Speaker 8 (12:30):
The Coop. So there's so much restarting.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
That you have that you have to do if you
are the La Rams at that point, just by getting
rid of one guy. So for me, do you move
on from Matt Stafford? If I am the Rams, I'm
not moving on for Matt Stafford.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Okay, here's my question, flipping the table to the ex
players here. If you're Stafford and you've made you know,
three hundred four hundred million dollars in your career, is
it a respect thing at this point where you think
you need to get paid that much? Or is it
okay to say, hey, I'm going to come back at
whatever it is, let's go win a super Bowl like
Tom Brady did all those years. And I'm not trying
to cast a negative light on Stafford for wanting what
he's deserved. But what it's the ex player or current
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player perspective on this where the team is like, we're
probably not going to go there, guy, like we don't
want to go there? Are you really going to break
our back on this? That's where they're at. It's a
business decision.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Yeah, And I love that, Peter, That's a great point
you brought up because and you said the name Tom
Brady right. Now, I was with Tom Brady my last
year in the NFL in New England, and he did
that so many times of taking a cut in his
pace so they could build around him. So they could
go get Randy Moss. Right, they can go get these
big name players. They could pay Rob Gunkowski. Right, they
can go out and get off into lineman to protect him.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It's the same thing with Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But there's also that fine line of knowing your worth too, right,
that's the tough part. And this is already a young roster,
like we mentioned, right, they need to go out in
free agency and find some big name players to go
out and have another run at the Super Bowl. But Peter,
to answer it straight up, if I'm Stafford, and obviously
I don't want to talk about another man's wallet and
his money.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
But if I am Stafford, in my opinion, I take
a pay shut and I go out there.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
And I want to go get another Super Bowl and
remember for the greatness rather than the money that I'm
making at the end of the year.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Yeah, you look at you look at the dynamic and
the relationship between Matt Stafford and Sean McVay. It's just
it's peanut, butter and jelly. You put them together, magic happens.
And So if I'm somebody like Matt Stafford, guys, I
never I don't even know what fifteen million looks like. Guys,
bet I barely even know what fifty thousand looks like. Okay,
so I don't even know what that looks like. But
what I will say is when you have the right fit,
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when you're in a system that really caters to your abilities,
which I think that the Rams do for Matt Stafford,
and you have a young, young supporting cast and a
defense that has I mean, they drafted tremendously last year,
and you know, Jared Verus had an amazing year. You
stay in the situation where they really love you and
they really really cater to what you do.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Well. So I'm not Matt Stafford. I'm not telling you
what to do.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
But if in that situation, I have one Super Bowl,
why not get a second?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Week seventeen Cardinals at Rams. I was on the sideline
for that game for NFL Network, And what was cool
they came out of the production meetings that while there
is a football decision to be made for Stafford when
it comes to this stuff, I also like to think
of the life stuff that comes to this, which is
Stafford has a setup now where he can leave the
facility at any time that he wants in a given day.
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He has the exact same video setup at home in
the confines of his Los Angeles home. He can crush game, film, tape,
everything because he's brought everything there. His massage table, his
video is everything. He's a dad, he's a husband. We
see all that on Instagram and whatnot. But the fact
that he is still putting the work in like I
don't think he's anywhere near done, and it just shows
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like Stafford knows what he's worth and how good he
can be to any team. But there's also like a
life element to this, which is Stafford to become a
really integral part of the LA community too. So it
would be also a sad breakup from that perspective as well.
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It's the twenty twenty five NFL Combine. February twenty seven,
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it on NFL Plus. Still to come on our show, though,
we're gonna take a book now made. Cody tosses that Cody,
he's the Oh my gosh, look at you, god man.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Tight I go, look as I love handles on that boy.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Green shoes, schmoke. That's Tony and Mantai at their combine
experience back in the day. Peter, it's story time with
these two guys at the table.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh, I love it. I want them green cleats. Cody,
what size you were, brother? I wanted her comb size twelve.
I would love those brock Powers is probably a size
thee hundred. That guy was dominant this year. We're gonna
go through the last year's rookies and we're gonna see
how we rank them going into the Combine. This is
a little fun that to look back to show you
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just how important the rookies were in twenty twenty four
Good Morning Football Trigger's top ten prospects entering the Combine.
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This was the Dude the only two time Macki.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Award winners jump out the top Down.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Writer Jaden Daniels was the Heisman Trophy winner Bavers was
his guy. He's LSU's career leader in receptions and receiving
yours pulleys. That's why they drafted a pick overall. I
am such a fan of Jaden Daniels. He goes to
LSU and he blows all expectations out of the water.
This guy was a Heisman Trophy winner and he projects
to be a top five NFL draft pick into the Edizode.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Seccard, Well, thank you with a puff day, Dad.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It is USC quarterback Caleb Glove. It's then just two
years at USC, through seventy two passing touchdowns and just
ten interceptions.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Life it up for DJ mord to the end.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
What a throw by Caleb, all right.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
So every year I do my top ten prospects heading
into the Combine. This was the list last year this day,
Monday of Combine Week. And it's really interesting because I'm
gonna be rolling it out tomorrow and Wednesday on our
show Good Morning Football for this year. So we figured
before we go into twenty twenty five, let's tie a
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bow on twenty twenty four and go through the performances
that these players had. Number ten, the thirtieth pick in
the draft, was that cornerback Nate Wiggins out of Clemson. Now,
we saw Terry and Arnold go before him. We saw,
of course, Quinnon Mitchell go before him. But Wiggins ended
up starting for a Ravens team that was the number
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three seed in the AFC this season and had a
really good rookie season. So Wiggins went from being my
number ten prospect last year to be in the thirtieth
overall pick to starting for one of the best defenses.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
In the league number nine.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I might have been a little underwhelmed if I put
him at nine, but trust me, tight end going this
high on a list like this is rare. I had
Brock Bowers at number nine. Bowers would end up going
number thirteen overall to the Raiders. Now, the nugget that
I shared on the Friday after the draft was that
the Rams were ferociously trying to trade up to get
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Brock Bauers in the draft. They did not succeed. They
ended up settling at nineteen and taking Jared Verse instead.
Bothe those guys dynamic rookies. Bowers, of course breaks all
the records. Jared Verse at nineteen overall wins NFL defensive
rookie of the year. Number eight not a household name yet,
but I do believe he will be Tallyesci Fuaga out
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of Oregon State went to the Saints, was fantastic when
he played this year, started all seventeen games, did it
on a team that underwhelmed. Fuanga, of course, was an
absolute massive beast and had an awesome combine itself. But
there were better offensive linemen at rookies. I think Olu
at of Penn State had a better year, and of
course Joe Alt had the better year. That's gonna be
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a bunch of names and they're gonna be looking at
for many, many years. Comparing them. Number seven with Malik Neighbors,
who was drafted sixth overall by the Giants out of LSU.
This guy didn't waste any time showing that he can
and will be one of the game elite wide receiver
saves you want about the Giants letting Saquon Walk, Joe
Shane Nail did here one hundred and nine catches twelve
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hundred yards. One hundred and nine catches are the second
most by a rookie all time. The only guy who's
ever had more with Brock Powers, who did it this
year as well so Neighbors. I had him at seven
going into the combine. He ends up getting drafted six.
I was a huge Roma Doonza fan coming out of Washington.
I had him number six, even above Neighbors. A Douonza
would get drafted a couple spots behind Neighbors. He went
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ninth overall, and he was solid. I think this was
not what Bears fans were hoping for. But when DJ
Moore is on the team, and of course they have
all the issues they had with ten straight losses and
the changing of head coach and offensive coordinator three times,
you could say you don't really blame a Dunze for
not going nuts this season. Seven hundred and thirty four yards.
We'll see what happens next year. Five. Last year I
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had Drake May. Drake May had five, so he was
my third quarterback going into the combine. He was actually
the third quarterback selected and went third overall. May was
a pro bowler as a rookie, really impressive year out
of him. Completed sixty seven percent of his passes fifteen touchdowns,
also ran the ball really well, and at some points
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it felt like it was him and a bunch of
ten guys, and he's carrying all of them as a
rookie at twenty one years old. So a lot of
hope for May sophomore season. Number four, and perhaps I
was unfair of putting him at four going into the combine.
I had Jaden Daniels. Of course, Daniels went on to
have the greatest rookie season we have maybe ever seen
out of a player in the NFL, taking his team
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to the NFC Championship Game, and of basically squashing every
rookie quarterback record you can imagine. Jaden Daniels was fantastic,
completed nearly seventy percent of his passes and tied Ben
Roethlisberger for the most quarterback wins by a rookie with fourteen,
and that included two playoff wins. And he tied the
NFL rookie record in a game with five passing touchdowns,
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which he did against the Eagles in a win. Eagles,
of course, go on to win the Super Bowl. My
top three players going into the combine, Number three was
a Notre Dame boy that I know, Manti Teo support
since Joe allt He was unbelievable this year for the
Los Angeles Chargers, and he went fifth overall. He started
all sixteen games. It's basically a human wall. He allowed
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just basically the fourth lowest quarterback pressure rate amongst all
rookie offensive linemen in NFL history, and he did that
as a tackle, playing the right side for Justin Herbert
as Sean Slater was on the left side. Joe Walt
was unbelievable, was everything he wanted out of a guy,
and was drafted fifth overall. I have no shame having
him at number three.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Number two.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I had Marvin Harrison Junior, who went fourth overall and
was the first wide receiver taken. Again, good numbers in
any other rookie class, which would be an outstanding season.
But when you've got guys like Neighbors and Bowers out
there doing what they did, he maybe didn't have the
numbers those guys, So we'll see what he does his
sophomore year. And then number one one overall going into
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the combine, I had Caleb Williams and Caleb Williams, I
think it's an NFL season that I didn't put in
my top ten rookies, and I got a lot of
blowback for it because the numbers are incredible thirty five
hundred yards and twenty touchdowns as a rookie for a
team that basically crumbled and broke up at the seams,
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and he kind of still put up those numbers despite
questionable offensive coordinator moves and then of course a coach
who was fired midway through the season. What's interesting is
this was going into the Combine, Caleb did not compete,
did not throw. But I thought Caleb Williams actually did
himself a lot of good at the Combine, being very present,
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he was around, he was supporting all the different players
out of USC. He went to cornerback drills on Friday night.
He then on Saturday was with the quarterbacks, and he
was the last guy to leave the field helping everybody
put things together, and then thanking different Lucas Oil Stadium
employees on the way out. So, in a weird way,
didn't compete, but still helped his stock. And then he
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went first overall and it was never a doubt the
Bears were taking him from day one. One more time,
can we see the full screen of who I had
ten to one, just so we could kind of pick
it apart and see and then of course we know
how the draft went, and then we know how the
actual season went. But here was ten to one going
into the combine, no major misses, a couple guys who
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were left off, and Cody Kessler.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
I turned to you.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I had the order wrong in a couple of ways.
But this was fresh off the college season, fresh off
the Super Bowl, and all these guys are going to
be starters for years to come in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Hey, talk your stuff, Shreg's I love it. This is
the Peter brought the Receipts episode right now.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Hey, I'll tell James Gladsown over with the Jaguars if
you need some help in this draft pass, we'll give
you a call. But yeah, I'm gonna stick with the
top of your list right there. I think Kayleb Williams
was a phenomenal pick there at number one. Again, maybe
I'm a little biased, being a USC guy in a
former Trojan, but.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I think he's going to just continue to get better.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I think that list, all the guys on that list
are really going to continue to get better. They're going
to be household names in the NFL for years to come.
But now you pair up Kayleb Williams with Ben Johnson
as the head coach, and we saw what he did
with the Detroit Lions and just the tools that he
has now in Chicago. Right, and go back and look
at Detroit with Jamiir Gibbs right, the way he got
him the football, Jamison Williams in different ways, he got
jam of the ball right, he found different ways to
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get Montgomery involved. All these different players had a role
in this offense, and and Alman ros Saint Brown.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
It was just so difficult as a defense to defend them.
And now you put them in Chicago.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
You know with Roman Dunsay, you put him in there,
with Khmet, you put him in there with with Kayleb Williams.
Obviously you had DeAndre Swift to that mix. There's so
many different names on that list, Keenan Allen, and now.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
He has all those guys at his disposal.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I think Kayler Williams continue to trend in the right
direction and I can't wait to see what they do
together in Chicagland. Also, he knows what it takes to
win in the NFC North. I think that's the most
important factor there. Cody, I'll say it is bro on
this show.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Shrigs is like the almanac or whatever, like this big
book of history and knowledge. He's like the oracle on matrix.
But I got something in both with my brother Shrigs.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Okay, early on this show, when.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
We talked about the Tennessee Titans and taking a quarterback
number one overall Shregs, I said that they should take
a what a right tackle, right tackle.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
Number three on his list.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Guys, there's Joe a position Shreks.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Does Joe All play Shreks right tackle?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Light tackle?
Speaker 8 (26:23):
And how awesome was that o line?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Shreks Awesome?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Amazing.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
So I just wanted to say, brother, like you are
the oracle.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
Okay, but when a coup you just literally like cut
my feet from beneath me like this, literally just kept
bashing me about right tackle, man TI, like you said,
right guard.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
You know how you know how hard we're all going
to be laughing if draft comes around and they taken
off into tackle.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
My So, So Shregs, I love you, and I'm so
glad that you pointed out Joe All is number three
on your list because there might be a right tackle
Shreks that might go one overall to the Tennessee and
that happens. I'm I'm gonna say I love.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Mantai is one of the nicest people on the planet,
but every once in a while we get a little
slice of how competitive he truly is, and we're living
it right now. Peter, I love the Roma Dunsay appearance
on that list. The Roma Dunza I think out of
last year, and please, for the love of God, don't
show this footage again because I'm like ten months pregnant
in the footage, which is all combine team and all
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combine performance. I think went to Roma Dunesey last year
when he stayed late to keep running the three cone
drill out of just desperation to hit the time perfectly.
Shreg So I love the Roma Dunza appearance and what
he did at the combine in the subsequent week. I
do have a question about bo Nix though, and why
he didn't appear in your top ten list this time
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last year because he was, you know, there was all
these things about him. The sixty six game started in
college and the two schools and he's super old and
then he became bo Nicks for Sean Payton. So what
was your take on him this time last year?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, great call, and he also was a senior ball
who did really well at the senior Ball. But it
was also like, well, you know, we've got these three
shiny objects in Drake May, Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams,
and then there's those other guys. There's Michael Pennix, There's
bon Nicks, and there's JJ McCarthy. They're not going to
go up there. And then as the draft process went on,
all those guys rose a little bit higher and higher
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and higher. I do have a great regret I was
one of those many people who overlooked Bonnicks going into
the Combine as a legitimate top ten guy. I don't
think anyone would doubt that. And Jamie, I would like
to say this, there was no bigger winner at the
Combine than Jamie Erdall, who yes, was nine months pregnant,
working the game in a dress and sneakers at the Combine,
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interviewing everybody. And I was just so happy that you
made it back to Los Angeles and didn't have to
end up in Indianapolis for a week with Sam and
the other girls coming in to go visit their new
baby sister.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
If I had had that third baby girl in Indy,
her name would have been Indy. We had already had
it planned. And all I know is that when I
showed up at my six am flight out of Indy
the next morning and I'm seated next to Robert Sala
and Brian Dable, the three of us are looking at
each other like we don't want to talk about anything football.
Nobody look at us. Also, the two of them are like,
what are you doing here?
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Get home?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Like they true men of families. They were like, what
this is a cause for concern, Get this girl back
to New York City?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
And I did.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
The combine is awesome, Peter. We know you're headed there
this week and we can't wait to look forward to it,
especially because sometimes players emerge from the combine and the
footage lives forever, like the two people living looking at
our sitting at our table this week, Cody.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Look at that air, I mean, and that's our boy.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Oh boy, that was that was an under That was
an underperformance there on the Oh no, a little short there.
I'd put on some lb since my high school basketball days,
so forty yard dash.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I appreciate you just showing the picture instead.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Of showing not the footage. Man, I don't worry.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
Rolled the video. I mean, you know you talk about Jamie.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
We're going to look back.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Where are the green cleats?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Good morning Football, NFL Scout and combine this week in Indianapolis.
It is the perfect site for it because you pretty
much don't have to go outside the entire week that
you're there. You can just stay inside and watch the
players walk in the hallways going from their testing to
the meetings to the on field workouts. Tom pelisera there
for us for NFL Network. Of course, the quarterback's always
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a juicy topic, Tom, especially in the last couple of years.
You really have to keep straight who's working out, who's
just doing meetings, who's not doing testing. Do you have
any answers for us with some of the big.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Names, Well, Jamie, let's start out with Shador Sanders of course,
Dion Sanders' son, who is regarded as one of the
top quarterback prospects in this draft. As our ian Rappidport
reported on Sunday, Sanders not expected to work out or
do any of the on field testing, but he will
be here in Indianapolis to continue meetings with clubs, a
process that began at the East West Shrine Bowl for
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shduor Sanders. There's a lot of layers that people want
to peel back, both in terms of the player that
he is and the type of person that is going
to be presumably the face of someone's franchise.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Here.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
He and cam Ward from Miami, again widely regarded as
the top two prospects in this draft. Unclear at this
point whether or not cam Ward is going to throw.
I would tell you that teams do not anticipate we
see Ward here that he would be on the same
program as Sanders to wait and throw at his pro day.
But most, if not all, of the other top quarterback
prospects are expected to throw in the quarterback session on Saturday.
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That list includes Jackson Dart from Ole Miss, who really
has an opportunity to help himself. I'm told Jalen Milroe
from Alabama is going to throw as well, So is
Notre Dame's Riley Leonard, a bunch of household names if
you're a college football fan, they're going to be out
here showing what they can do on Saturday, and they're
going to be throwing to a wide receiver group that
I think Jamie is one of the other undersold storylines
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in this draft. This is not regarded as a wide
receiver draft like ones we've seen in recent years. There
are not those top end types of players however we
have seen in the past, whether it's from the testing,
the drills, whatever it might be. You can really help
yourself here. Could somebody like Matthew Golden from Texas all
of a sudden put himself into first round consideration. That's
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one of the names I'll be keeping a close eye
on as this process plays out through of course the
week here in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Well, it does feel like Tom, anyone coming out of
Steve Sarkejan offense would be a good take on your
NFL roster. So that wouldn't be a bad option.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
We got to get some people in that building with you.
You just said, however, and I heard it echo like
three times. All right, get the scouting gun line up.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
And we saw over there one of the rival networks
didn't put together their set yet, so they're doing some
work right on the other side of this curtain over here.
If you need him over here, I can get him.
I can get him to do some work here.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
That just means you're there early and often, Tom, and
we appreciate it so much. We'll talk to you in
a little bit. There are some names that we will
learn this weekend. But if you watch the fourth annual
All State HBCU Legacy Bowl, it took place this past
weekend at Tulane Universe City in New Orleans. The game
featuring the top NFL Draft eligible players from historically black
colleges and universities. For a recap, here's the guys that
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were on site for us, Steve Weisch and the crew right.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Steve White here, Bucky Brooks, and Charles Davis. A great
day in New Orleans at the All Street HBCU Legacy Bowl.
Team Robinson went at seventeen to fourteen.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
Buckie.
Speaker 10 (33:25):
An exciting game and a spectacular finish for the exclamation point.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yeah, the best of me saying.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
We talked about the talent, but it was really the execution.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Obviously defensive. We saw everything that we want to see today.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
We certainly did.
Speaker 10 (33:36):
We saw guys with NFL aspirations make plays when we
saw guys who were not going to play in the
NFL take great memories with them by their excellent play
as well.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So Charles, you see the defensive play right here?
Speaker 10 (33:46):
What about the player who won the defensive endby Are
you talking about trakejwan Thom? Yes, yeah, because every time
we looked up, number fifty seven was pursuing the quarterback
and more times than not got to it.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And he did it throughout the game.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
It wasn't just a flurry on one series.
Speaker 10 (34:02):
It was quarter after quarter afterquar He ends up putting
the quarterback on the deck four times.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And yes, well, deserving of being.
Speaker 10 (34:09):
The MVP on defense.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, certainly deserving of being the MVP on defense.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
But let's talk about the office again.
Speaker 11 (34:14):
Okay, Daniel Ridgson certainly deserved to be the MVP nine
of twelve, one hundred and ten yards, moved the team
up and down the field, had a touchdown pass. But
really it was a way he managed the game as
the ultimate field general. He walks out of here with
the MVP award and as a winner.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
Yeah, I thought I thought it was bidding that backup
quarterbacks took the front. Yeah, you know, Richardson wasn't the
starter and it was Draylenelli's for the opposite team.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Both of them were in the game at the end.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
They got the game in a flow.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Again.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
The most competitive game that we have seen here for
four years, the showcase for the top players from Black
college football.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
It was a good one this week.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Charles and Bucky, appreciate rolling with you on this one.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Appreciate rolling with you as well. That's our quarterback.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah he a go, Steve. Why should appreciate that?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Man?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Tis always like, that's our quarterback, that's our system. Look
at these two guys working out at the NFL Combine.
It's Manti, it's Cody. They were in Indianapolis. It was
a couple of years ago, but we have the footage
and we're looking back at their combine experience. The NFL Combine,
presented my Microsoft co Pilot, is Thursday on NFL Network
and it's streaming on NFL Plus. There's Manti Tayo, great form,
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Buddy and Cody Casler's at the table as well. We're
going to take go down memory lane finally with their
combine experiences. Mantai, look at you, you.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Young pup, baby face, young pup. Can we go back
to that first picture?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Okay, when we go back to this.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
When we go back to the first picture, it's very
deceiving because it looks like it's a blur and it
looks like I'm running really really fast. But I'll tell you.
I'll tell you a story about what happened at the combine.
So Jarvis, Jarvis Jones, who is drafted by the Steelers
out of Georgia, he didn't participate in the forty yard dash,
and so I don't know how they have it now,
but they don't have the times up when you run
the forty. But Jarvis was on his phone following, and
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so everybody who ran their forty they started to make
a huddle around Jarvis and he would tell him, Hey,
you ran.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
This, you ran that.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Oh so the broadcast knew it, but you guys running
we don't run.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
We don't know our times. So I run mine, right.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
I come back around to the start and there's a
little huddle around Jarvis, and Jarvis is just telling people
at their times.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
And I knew Jarvis because we're trained together. So I
was like, hey, j J was my time?
Speaker 7 (36:24):
And I remember he grabs his phone, he looks down
and he looks up up at me and he goes.
Speaker 8 (36:31):
And I'm like, what was my time?
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Bro?
Speaker 8 (36:32):
And he goes like four eight. I was like, you
shouldn't have told him it was. It was a nightmare.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Guy.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
I saw again that picture that you saw made me
look zoom fast like Sonic. It wasn't sonic, guys, it
was more like sonic to drive through.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
That's what I was doing. It was around a four eight.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
It was.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
It was not.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
It was not two guys drinking milkshakes.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, it looked like a milkshake.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
You're upright, though, The form looked right and everything. I'm
going to go opposite of that too, because you said
four it was bad for you. I got a funny
forty story on top of it. And the same thing
my and I was.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
I think twenty fifteen was out the combiner, twenty sixteen,
same thing. You didn't know the forty until if right.
So we get downe with the our college season. I
think December twenty seventh. We played in the holiday. But
we get done.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
You go straight into combine prep. You have that two
month period.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
I am running forty after forty after forty, trying to
get my time down. I cannot break four nine, right,
I'm at four nine zero four nine two four four
four nine one can't break it.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
And I tried so many times.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
I spent I worked out with practice sports out in
Orange County. We spent hours afterwards working on my get off.
All of that combine rolls around. I'm on about three
and a half hours of sleep.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
I am tired. I know we have the video.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
It's a terrible site to watch, but I run my four.
I am digging everything I have. I just told myself,
I'm going to hit four eight somehow some weight to
combine or at least.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
A low four nine.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Don't break it the entire time I get to the
combine we finish up. First thing, my strength coach tells
me when we get out there, he goes hit four
eight nine, So I say four eight.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I don't tell him the four eight nine part.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Yes, opposite reaction to Mantai as a quarterback who I
was very excited about hitting the four eight because then
I just saw, hey, I run a four eight.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Doesn't matter if it was a four to zo or
four eight nine, huh. I still ran a four eight.
So that was a pretty good pills.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
This is such a crazy juxtaposition with to what we
saw last year was Xavier Worthy and how the entire
place lost their mind and they were watching the time
flash up on the board Shriggs. You were in the
building for that. These stories make me sad now to
hear that these guys didn't even know their time, whereas
now people are celebrating this. Xavier really sprint.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I also think a lot of the drills is what
we focus on, but it's a whole week of being
together with the different guys in your draft class. Cody,
I'll start with you. Who were the other quarterbacks and
who was kind of the alpha dog that year, that
was the pied piper leading everyone around when it came
to that quarterback group.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
You know what shrikes. I don't remember who that top
guy was. Now.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Golf was obviously the number one overall pick that year.
And then I was roommates actually with Carson Wentz. When
I say roommates, that's like a high and by at
one am in the morning because you've been doing interviews
for the last eighteen hours.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
So we didn't spend a lot of time together.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
But Wentz was there, Golf, Dak Prescott was obviously there,
So we had a good group of guys.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
We had a great throwing session.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Actually, I think a lot of guys really helped themselves
and not to be trying to brag too much, but
myself included out a very good performance at the combine
and it really helped me after an up and down
year at USC year. But funny story too, kind of
going off of that, is you do a ton of interviews, right,
you go into the train station is what they call
it down there in the botto.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I don't if they still call it that. Where, Yes,
you go down there, you do all the interviews.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
And I remember I was on the last day of
the interviews, right, and it was the day before we
worked out before we went home, probably my last interview
of the day, and it was with Pet Hamilton, who
was the offensive coordinator in Cleveland at the time.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
Right.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
So I go down there and I kept pushing back
his interview because you just had so many lined up.
I felt terrible. Long, long story short, I get to
the PEP interview, we go do it. I can tell
he's already fed up with me. Right, I love Pet
to this day. We're really close now. And they teach
you and man title will tell you it's a first impression.
This may be your twentieth interview of the day, but
it's your first time in front of this coach, Right,
so be authentic, be real, be positive, be upright. It's
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also midnight. We're all tired, and I remember Pep asking
me questions and you know, hey, what's your favorite cover
two beater? And I'm you know, going and talking about it,
getting into it, and he's on a song, just scroll
and not really paying attention, you know, And then he
asked me another question, and then it goes silent, and
I'm like, you got any more, Coach, and he was like, oh, yeah,
we're good, man, We're good. I w away and I
remember telling myself. I think I text one of my
parents or someone. I said, I promise you I will
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not be a Cleveland Brown on April. And then sure
enough I get drafted by the Cleveland Browns. I go
out there for an official but and then to this state.
Me and Pepper really close.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I love him.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
I spent Thanksgiving Christmas with his family. Amazing coach, but
it was so funny. We still That was the first
story we talked about when I got there. Was I
remember leaving that interview like this guy hates me. I
will never be a Cleveland Brown. And then sure enough
I get a call from Brio, Ohio.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
On April twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Maybe just Peter, maybe he just heard everything you needed
to know right off the bat. It was the first in.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Session, Nanta, your situation was obviously different. You had all
these questions fresh off the stuff that you went through
at the end of your college career. Did you have
great anxiety about answering all these questions in an interview
setting and that was as formal as what was going
on at the comment. I have to think going into
there you were just, you know, ridden with nerves, but
also like, oh do I have to address all this again?
Speaker 8 (40:52):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
It was definitely an experience, Peter. I will say, you know,
I think everything is case by case. My experience would
be different than Cody's, which will be different than Xavier Worthies. Right,
every team that met with me at the train station.
When I would go in there and meet with these teams,
they asked me about the cat fishing thing. Every single one,
well except for one the Saints. The Saints didn't ask
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me about that question. They just talked ball with me.
But it was an experience that I'll never forget, as
an experience that I wish I could forget.
Speaker 8 (41:22):
But it was definitely a growing experience. Because there was
a lot of growth there.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
There's a lot of teams that had their their questions
and once they asked their questions, I answered them and
that was it. There was others that really kept digging,
and so they wanted to see I think more so
and Cody, let me know what you think, it's more
so to see how you react. How do you react
under pressure? Do you crumble? Do you do you shy
away from pressure?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Are you?
Speaker 8 (41:43):
Are you authentic?
Speaker 7 (41:44):
And I try to be my best self every time
that I was on behind the camera, and so you
could imagine for what was that twenty two year old
kid that type of pressure.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Look at the front road, SHREKX are you there?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Sure is right here?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Bottom right front here?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Look at that face.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Look at them study Batista right there, two down too,
over right, and there's shregs behind shreg.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
For those Jamie's out here pointing all out for them.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
Okay, I'm gonna ask you, Shrikes, what what when you
I mean, I don't know if you remember that, but
what were your thoughts during that time when you you know.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
You obviously what was happening?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Empathy felt terrible that you had to do this in
this setting, But Also, I thought you handled yourself well.
But I remember being at that press conference. I didn't
realized I'd be front and center looking like I was
a miserable sap. I was probably excited that week, but
that was like, that was the real story that week.
Matta Tables can actually speak, And I thought you handled
yourself amazingly. But I had a great empathy for you
because I felt like you were a twenty one year
old kid, and here we go, this is going to
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be the start of what's going to be a very
uncomfortable ten minutes for you.
Speaker 8 (42:43):
Thank you, Shreks. I love you, brother, thank you so much.
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
It's a great opportunity for guys that you know, to
really showcase what they can do, to go out there
and really compete. So I'm excited for the players that
are going to be out there this year.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
And then he turned and he ran out of that room.
Unfortunately it was at what speed for coat?
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Sorrys listen, I'd say this guy, if I got to
run forty yards, it's a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Okay, So nice, nice man.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
SI.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Cody Kessler still on the show all week long. Manti
Seer as well, GMT. Melivia back
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
That's right, this is Good Morning Football. Welcome in everybody.
We're live in LA and New York and most importantly
this week, Indianapolis Today on GMF. It's Monday, February twenty
fourth five. This is Manti Teo. There's Peter Schreger in
New York. I'm Jamie Ertl and welcome to our table
this week. Cody Kessler. What up, Cody say? Thanks Cody?
(00:44):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Oh? I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I already kind of gave my spiel at the beginning early.
I'll give a little bit more. But no, it's been
a blast. I'll just talking to them off camera. It's
just when you do new things like this, you start broadcasting.
I've always loved the show. I'm watching it a ton.
You never know it's going to go. But the set,
the crew, everyone will involved has been amazing. It's been
a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Well for those.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Checking in from their cubicle nine am, Easterns saym West Coast.
Cody Kesler, USC quarterback is drafted by the Browns, made
a couple of stops and now you've been doing broadcasting
though for what in the last couple of years?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah, last three years.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I was kind of going back and forth between if
I wanted to coach. You know, I got done playing
in the NFL, I retired, I walked away, and you know,
football as mental outa you kind of always pulled at
your heart a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
It's tough to fully walk away.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I was going to get into coaching, and then sat
down with Mark Sanchez, who very good friend of mine,
was talking about, Hey, you know, college coaching is an
eleven and a half month job. There's really no free time.
Try this broadcasting thing out. So my agent reached out
to USC and they were very gracious and you know,
I know Mantai doesn't know about this because you went
to the wrong school, but the Trojan family is very
welcoming out. Yeah, they invited me out to do a
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couple of pregame show, we do a podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
And all that, and I kind of fell in love
with it.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
And now I'm here doing this and you guys been amazing,
So I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Really cool.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
I would say, you know, the thing about so great
about our GMMFB fam is. This is the closest that
you'll see an irishman and a Trojan true and the
same family.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (02:00):
This is just unheard of.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
Only on GMMTB can I meet a a guy, just
a USC quarterback. Guys, USC quarterback, not of the linebacker.
Speaker 8 (02:08):
We don't get along. But here on GMFP this is
my brother.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Hey, and and Anti Manti showed me around.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Actually I had to scratch. I thought I was dreaming.
He said, hey, let me show you on the set.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Bro Peter, your thoughts on this table today.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Cody, Uh, Now that we have you at the table,
will you properly admit to Mantiitao that the the pushing
of Reggie Bush into the NAB should have been called?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I don't, I don't. I don't know if we're gonna
I don't know what's pumping up here. That was perfectly legal.
That was a great call. I love that play.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
That fourth and Night was amazing too. To Dwayne Jarrett,
so love that. I'm sticking by that and the Bush
push lives forever in.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
The USC legacy. I was I was a USC fan
back then. We know everybody know I was the fan
back then.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I was a Notre Dame fan.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
All Right, guys, you have all week together, Okay, don't
burn through all the topics right now, all right, cause
let's check in in Indianapolis. Todd Helasaro is there all
week because the next is here. It's the NFL Scout
and Combine happening on NFL Network. I love the video,
the vintage video and the names Tom that have come
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from combines of the past, perhaps like a matt Stafford
who is throwing back in the day in Indy. Where
was he going to go? We've watched his career unfold.
Does it continue in LA next year?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Tom Jamie? What I would tell you is that conversations
are ongoing between the Rams, Matthew staff and his representatives,
and other teams about exactly where Matthew Stafford is going
to be playing in twenty twenty five. Here's what has
occurred over the past couple of weeks. The Rams gave
his agent, Jimmy Sexton, permission to speak with other teams
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about what those teams would do on a new contract
for Matthew Stafford, who's only due twenty seven million dollars,
well below the median of the quarterback market. In twenty
twenty five. That serves a dual purpose. It allows Stafford
and his agent to get a good feel for the
marketplace of what he could get elsewhere, but also gives
the RAMS a foundation for knowing what a new deal
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should look like if Stafford is to return to LA.
I'm told the Rams also now have engaged with some
of those other teams. There are multiple interested trade compensation
has been discussed. There is nothing imminent as of this moment,
but certainly the Rams are getting their duction in a
row to be able to make a decision sooner than
rather than later on what direction this is going to go.
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Matthew Stafford has a roster bonus that is due on
the third day of the league year on March fourteenth.
That serves as a trigger of sorts for them to
make a decision. Though, when you're talking about all the
moving parts in this quarterback marketplace, from Aaron Rodgers to
Kirk Cousins and certainly Matthew Stafford, making decisions sooner rather
than later would be something that would benefit everyone. So
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this remains a fluid situation with Matthew Stafford and LA.
My understanding has been that the RAMS priority was to
get something done with Matthew Stafford in LA but there
might come a point and a number at which it
just doesn't make sense for them to do that deal
and pivot in a new direction with a young team.
We shall see everybody, not the Rams. They don't come
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to the combine, these other teams in one place, including
Agents through the course of this week. This could ramp
up here as we move forward.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I love how we were talking last hour time about
teams that get together in the different rooms around Indy
and they meet at the bars and the restaurants. The
fact that the Rams just straight up don't show up
at the combine yet, this is a very important piece
of the freegency.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
We can't be watching for Rams brass to see who
they're talking to all week in Indie. Tom Pelsaro, thank
you very much. There is no one more locked in
with the Rams, frankly around the league than of course
our own Peter Schrager Triggs. When it looks at Stafford,
When you look at the Rams and how they're built,
do you really envision a world in which they do
not have this quarterback playing for them next year?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah? I know. Anytime I do speak on the Rams,
and specifically on Stafford and McVeigh like yours, perk up
and I want everyone to listen in that those guys
actually have a fine relationship. This was nothing that is
between them personally, and this is a This is a
money issue, and Matthew Stafford wants to be paid what
he thinks he's worth. He wants to be paid more
than fifty million dollars. They've given the agent, Jimmy Sexon,
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one of the best agents in all of football, both
college football with the coaches and of course in the
NFL with coaches and players. They've given him the freedom
to go seek out what might be some teams that
would be of interest and if those teams would pay him.
And guess what, there are teams that are willing to
pay him more than what the Rams are currently willing
to pay him. The question is does Stafford want to
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go to those teams and what are those teams willing
to give up. It's all very awkward because McVeigh and
Stafford may end up together, and it's just like, well,
that was water under the bridge, that was business. We
got to keep the emotional side separate from the business side. Here,
truth of the matter is Matthew Stafford was one pass
away from playing an NFC championship game at home against
the Washington Commanders this year. That guy can steal ball.
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And if you don't think he's one of the top
nine quarterbacks in the NFL currently, well then you're thinking
he's not worth fifty million dollars. And that's really where
we're starting that number. Fifty million. Last year, the Rams
borrowed money from future years to pay him a pay bump.
They're not going to do it again this year, and
they are currently paying him less than fifty million dollars.
So you look at the teams and you look at
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the options for the Rams, say you trade him to
the Steelers. Are the Steelers willing to give a first
or second round pick and pay Matthew Stafford fifty plus
million dollars? And it's Stafford willing to go play in
Pittsburgh in the cold weather? And is Kelly and the
four girls, are they going to want to go move
out to Pittsburgh? How about the Giants. Giants, they're not
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giving up the third overall pick, but would they be
willing to give up the thirty fourth overall pick and
pay him fifty five million dollars. If that's the case,
does that make sense? The Raiders are an option? Who knows?
You can go down the list. The issue with this
year for Stafford is if they do trade Matthew Stafford,
there are quarterbacks who would likely love to play for
the Rams. Aaron Rodgers lives in Malibu in the offseason.
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You don't think he'd want to just mix it up
for a discounted price and play with Sean mcvagh for
a year. Of course he would, So who has the
leverage here? Where are they going to go? Jimmy Garoppolo?
They could pay ten million, and McVeigh by think I
could win gabs at Garoppola. It's a really tough, awkward
situation because there is a real friendship, they have a
Super Bowl Championship together, and there's no real bad blood
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at the moment. But the longer this thing proceeds, the
UGLIERC could get. I don't know if I could envision
a world where the Rams go on without Stafford. I
think everyone would love Stafford to come back, but I
don't think the Rams are going to break their back
to pay Matthew Stafford top dollar. And if he's okay,
with that to go pursue a Super Bowl fine, and
if he's not, no shame in that, go get the
money you think you deserve.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Peter, this doesn't feel as sexy or dramatic as two
years ago with Rogers leaving Green Bay, but the fact
that you brought his name up now departing the New
York Jets, I just wrote this question on a card
to Manti and just was like, how does this feel
to you? Which is is Stafford do you feel like
in a better place physically or maybe in his career
then Rogers was two years ago leaving Green Bay. To
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your point, like, what does he warrant in the trade market?
Is that a parallel to look at these two guys
just within this most recent window in terms of value
and what they should be demanding.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, Jamie, I think it's a great question, and that's
what the Rams are going to have to figure out.
And that's what Jimmy sex in the Agent is kind
of seating out here. Look, the Giants and the Raiders
would love Matthew Stafford under center. I believe it, But
those guys have top ten picks. I don't think they're
willing to trade a top ten pick. So are you
saying a second round pick and then they've got to
take the load of his contract and pay him. Perhaps
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I would add this on the Rogers Stafford comparison. Matthew
Stafford's five and two in the playoffs as a quarterback
for the Los Angeles Rams. Aaron Rodgers lost those last
few years as a quarterback for the Green Bay Packers,
and did so while talking on the way out. Stafford
doesn't seem like he's unhappy with the situation with the roster.
It doesn't seem like he's unhappy with McVeigh. Just wants
to get paid.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, I don't see the Rams moving on. I think
Peter hit the nail on the head right th that
was perfectly said. I just in with that contract too,
and I'm Treggs and Tom can correct me if I'm wrong.
But twenty seven million, right, four million of that is bonus.
The other twenty three million none of that is guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Right.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
They moved money from this year to last year to
pay him forty million guaranteed. That's where the big you
know hole is right now between the Rams and Matthew Stafford,
is this, Yeah, I'm not getting guaranteed money, and I
just took a young roster to Philadelphia and bad weather
and was like, like Peter said, one play away from
going to you know and moving on to the next round.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And he's played good football.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
He's continuing to get better, which is crazy because when
you have a guy who gets in his late thirties
in the NFL, you normally start to think, Okay, they're
going on their decline a little bit, they're on the
back half.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Of their year. I remember when I was training out
in California.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Back in Los Angeles, back when I was playing in
the NFL, I would go out early and we trained
with the same guy named Tom House three DQB Adam.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Dato is kind of the group that does it now.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
I would go out there early because of I could
watch Matthew Safford throw before my session.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Right, he would go in the group before me.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I still think to this day he's one of the
most underrated quarterbacks in the NFL of all time when
it comes to.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Just a peer passer.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I mean, look back at Detroit, right, they didn't have
a lot of success in the playoffs. They didn't have
a lot of success. And you know, when you keep
someone that long it's because maybe there's a Super Bowl Wanner,
They're seeing a lot of leins and they're you know,
taking it to the next step.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
They kept them purely because.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Of how talented he was and how good he was
at making the guys around him better. Right, he had
Calvin Johnson, some good players, but he's doing the same
thing right now in Los Angeles with a young roster
who everyone pretty much rode off at the beginning of
the year.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
And I was I'm guilty.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I'll put my hand up and say, hey, I think
this is going to be a down year. Stafford's gone.
Next year, it's a rebuild. What's going to happen?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
He turned it around and showed and reminded.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
People I'd rather say who he is and took this
team to the Division round of playoffs.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
And like I said, one play away from beating the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Champs, Yeah, one play away. Talking about that play, if Jalen.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Carter gets blocked, who knows the Rams might be the
ones in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Because he don't.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Everybody forgets that they had a tight end running a
little whippro that on that play that was wide open.
And if Matt Stafford had the time and Jalen Carter
didn't come unblocked.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
Who knows what happened to make thing?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
If Jalen Carter goes on blocked, you got to staff
the guy.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Well no, he literally was the center slid away from
him like the guy didn't even nobody even blocked him.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
So he is unblocked. So for me, does Matt Stafford
move on? Does the Rams keep Matt Stafford?
Speaker 7 (12:01):
You better keep Matt Stafford, guys, he has two years
left on his track.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Why would you even.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Let him go?
Speaker 8 (12:05):
Now? Why would those discussions? I get where they're trying to.
They're trying to see where everybody is at what the
price would be.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
The thing is this, guys, Matt Stafford has only missed
one game in the past two years. For you, he's
won a Super Bowl for you. You're about to get rid
of Cooper Cup. Now, if you get rid of Cooper Cup, Pooking,
the coup is left pook In. The cop has already
expressed how much he loves Matt Stafford, He's already expressed
how perfect the ball is for him. So if you
get rid of Matt Stafford, what does that mean for Pookin?
Speaker 8 (12:30):
The Coop. So there's so much restarting.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
That you have that you have to do if you
are the La Rams at that point, just by getting
rid of one guy. So for me, do you move
on from Matt Stafford? If I am the Rams, I'm
not moving on for Matt Stafford.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Okay, here's my question, flipping the table to the ex
players here. If you're Stafford and you've made you know,
three hundred four hundred million dollars in your career, is
it a respect thing at this point where you think
you need to get paid that much? Or is it
okay to say, hey, I'm going to come back at
whatever it is, let's go win a super Bowl like
Tom Brady did all those years. And I'm not trying
to cast a negative light on Stafford for wanting what
he's deserved. But what it's the ex player or current
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player perspective on this where the team is like, we're
probably not going to go there, guy, like we don't
want to go there? Are you really going to break
our back on this? That's where they're at. It's a
business decision.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Yeah, And I love that, Peter, That's a great point
you brought up because and you said the name Tom
Brady right. Now, I was with Tom Brady my last
year in the NFL in New England, and he did
that so many times of taking a cut in his
pace so they could build around him. So they could
go get Randy Moss. Right, they can go get these
big name players. They could pay Rob Gunkowski. Right, they
can go out and get off into lineman to protect him.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It's the same thing with Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
But there's also that fine line of knowing your worth too, right,
that's the tough part. And this is already a young roster,
like we mentioned, right, they need to go out in
free agency and find some big name players to go
out and have another run at the Super Bowl. But Peter,
to answer it straight up, if I'm Stafford, and obviously
I don't want to talk about another man's wallet and
his money.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
But if I am Stafford, in my opinion, I take
a pay shut and I go out there.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
And I want to go get another Super Bowl and
remember for the greatness rather than the money that I'm
making at the end of the year.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Yeah, you look at you look at the dynamic and
the relationship between Matt Stafford and Sean McVay. It's just
it's peanut, butter and jelly. You put them together, magic happens.
And So if I'm somebody like Matt Stafford, guys, I
never I don't even know what fifteen million looks like. Guys,
bet I barely even know what fifty thousand looks like. Okay,
so I don't even know what that looks like. But
what I will say is when you have the right fit,
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when you're in a system that really caters to your abilities,
which I think that the Rams do for Matt Stafford,
and you have a young, young supporting cast and a
defense that has I mean, they drafted tremendously last year,
and you know, Jared Verus had an amazing year. You
stay in the situation where they really love you and
they really really cater to what you do.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Well. So I'm not Matt Stafford. I'm not telling you
what to do.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
But if in that situation, I have one Super Bowl,
why not get a second?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Week seventeen Cardinals at Rams. I was on the sideline
for that game for NFL Network, And what was cool
they came out of the production meetings that while there
is a football decision to be made for Stafford when
it comes to this stuff, I also like to think
of the life stuff that comes to this, which is
Stafford has a setup now where he can leave the
facility at any time that he wants in a given day.
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He has the exact same video setup at home in
the confines of his Los Angeles home. He can crush game, film, tape,
everything because he's brought everything there. His massage table, his
video is everything. He's a dad, he's a husband. We
see all that on Instagram and whatnot. But the fact
that he is still putting the work in like I
don't think he's anywhere near done, and it just shows
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like Stafford knows what he's worth and how good he
can be to any team. But there's also like a
life element to this, which is Stafford to become a
really integral part of the LA community too. So it
would be also a sad breakup from that perspective as well.
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It's the twenty twenty five NFL Combine. February twenty seven,
through March second on NFL Network or you can stream
it on NFL Plus. Still to come on our show, though,
we're gonna take a book now made. Cody tosses that Cody,
he's the Oh my gosh, look at you, god man.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Tight I go, look as I love handles on that boy.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Green shoes, schmoke. That's Tony and Mantai at their combine
experience back in the day. Peter, it's story time with
these two guys at the table.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh, I love it. I want them green cleats. Cody,
what size you were, brother? I wanted her comb size twelve.
I would love those brock Powers is probably a size
thee hundred. That guy was dominant this year. We're gonna
go through the last year's rookies and we're gonna see
how we rank them going into the Combine. This is
a little fun that to look back to show you
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just how important the rookies were in twenty twenty four
Good Morning Football Trigger's top ten prospects entering the Combine.
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This was the Dude the only two time Macki.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Award winners jump out the top Down.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Writer Jaden Daniels was the Heisman Trophy winner Bavers was
his guy. He's LSU's career leader in receptions and receiving
yours pulleys. That's why they drafted a pick overall. I
am such a fan of Jaden Daniels. He goes to
LSU and he blows all expectations out of the water.
This guy was a Heisman Trophy winner and he projects
to be a top five NFL draft pick into the Edizode.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Seccard, Well, thank you with a puff day, Dad.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It is USC quarterback Caleb Glove. It's then just two
years at USC, through seventy two passing touchdowns and just
ten interceptions.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Life it up for DJ mord to the end.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
What a throw by Caleb, all right.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
So every year I do my top ten prospects heading
into the Combine. This was the list last year this day,
Monday of Combine Week. And it's really interesting because I'm
gonna be rolling it out tomorrow and Wednesday on our
show Good Morning Football for this year. So we figured
before we go into twenty twenty five, let's tie a
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bow on twenty twenty four and go through the performances
that these players had. Number ten, the thirtieth pick in
the draft, was that cornerback Nate Wiggins out of Clemson. Now,
we saw Terry and Arnold go before him. We saw,
of course, Quinnon Mitchell go before him. But Wiggins ended
up starting for a Ravens team that was the number
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three seed in the AFC this season and had a
really good rookie season. So Wiggins went from being my
number ten prospect last year to be in the thirtieth
overall pick to starting for one of the best defenses.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
In the league number nine.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I might have been a little underwhelmed if I put
him at nine, but trust me, tight end going this
high on a list like this is rare. I had
Brock Bowers at number nine. Bowers would end up going
number thirteen overall to the Raiders. Now, the nugget that
I shared on the Friday after the draft was that
the Rams were ferociously trying to trade up to get
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Brock Bauers in the draft. They did not succeed. They
ended up settling at nineteen and taking Jared Verse instead.
Bothe those guys dynamic rookies. Bowers, of course breaks all
the records. Jared Verse at nineteen overall wins NFL defensive
rookie of the year. Number eight not a household name yet,
but I do believe he will be Tallyesci Fuaga out
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of Oregon State went to the Saints, was fantastic when
he played this year, started all seventeen games, did it
on a team that underwhelmed. Fuanga, of course, was an
absolute massive beast and had an awesome combine itself. But
there were better offensive linemen at rookies. I think Olu
at of Penn State had a better year, and of
course Joe Alt had the better year. That's gonna be
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a bunch of names and they're gonna be looking at
for many, many years. Comparing them. Number seven with Malik Neighbors,
who was drafted sixth overall by the Giants out of LSU.
This guy didn't waste any time showing that he can
and will be one of the game elite wide receiver
saves you want about the Giants letting Saquon Walk, Joe
Shane Nail did here one hundred and nine catches twelve
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hundred yards. One hundred and nine catches are the second
most by a rookie all time. The only guy who's
ever had more with Brock Powers, who did it this
year as well so Neighbors. I had him at seven
going into the combine. He ends up getting drafted six.
I was a huge Roma Doonza fan coming out of Washington.
I had him number six, even above Neighbors. A Douonza
would get drafted a couple spots behind Neighbors. He went
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ninth overall, and he was solid. I think this was
not what Bears fans were hoping for. But when DJ
Moore is on the team, and of course they have
all the issues they had with ten straight losses and
the changing of head coach and offensive coordinator three times,
you could say you don't really blame a Dunze for
not going nuts this season. Seven hundred and thirty four yards.
We'll see what happens next year. Five. Last year I
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had Drake May. Drake May had five, so he was
my third quarterback going into the combine. He was actually
the third quarterback selected and went third overall. May was
a pro bowler as a rookie, really impressive year out
of him. Completed sixty seven percent of his passes fifteen touchdowns,
also ran the ball really well, and at some points
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it felt like it was him and a bunch of
ten guys, and he's carrying all of them as a
rookie at twenty one years old. So a lot of
hope for May sophomore season. Number four, and perhaps I
was unfair of putting him at four going into the combine.
I had Jaden Daniels. Of course, Daniels went on to
have the greatest rookie season we have maybe ever seen
out of a player in the NFL, taking his team
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to the NFC Championship Game, and of basically squashing every
rookie quarterback record you can imagine. Jaden Daniels was fantastic,
completed nearly seventy percent of his passes and tied Ben
Roethlisberger for the most quarterback wins by a rookie with fourteen,
and that included two playoff wins. And he tied the
NFL rookie record in a game with five passing touchdowns,
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which he did against the Eagles in a win. Eagles,
of course, go on to win the Super Bowl. My
top three players going into the combine, Number three was
a Notre Dame boy that I know, Manti Teo support
since Joe allt He was unbelievable this year for the
Los Angeles Chargers, and he went fifth overall. He started
all sixteen games. It's basically a human wall. He allowed
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just basically the fourth lowest quarterback pressure rate amongst all
rookie offensive linemen in NFL history, and he did that
as a tackle, playing the right side for Justin Herbert
as Sean Slater was on the left side. Joe Walt
was unbelievable, was everything he wanted out of a guy,
and was drafted fifth overall. I have no shame having
him at number three.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Number two.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I had Marvin Harrison Junior, who went fourth overall and
was the first wide receiver taken. Again, good numbers in
any other rookie class, which would be an outstanding season.
But when you've got guys like Neighbors and Bowers out
there doing what they did, he maybe didn't have the
numbers those guys, So we'll see what he does his
sophomore year. And then number one one overall going into
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the combine, I had Caleb Williams and Caleb Williams, I
think it's an NFL season that I didn't put in
my top ten rookies, and I got a lot of
blowback for it because the numbers are incredible thirty five
hundred yards and twenty touchdowns as a rookie for a
team that basically crumbled and broke up at the seams,
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and he kind of still put up those numbers despite
questionable offensive coordinator moves and then of course a coach
who was fired midway through the season. What's interesting is
this was going into the Combine, Caleb did not compete,
did not throw. But I thought Caleb Williams actually did
himself a lot of good at the Combine, being very present,
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he was around, he was supporting all the different players
out of USC. He went to cornerback drills on Friday night.
He then on Saturday was with the quarterbacks, and he
was the last guy to leave the field helping everybody
put things together, and then thanking different Lucas Oil Stadium
employees on the way out. So, in a weird way,
didn't compete, but still helped his stock. And then he
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went first overall and it was never a doubt the
Bears were taking him from day one. One more time,
can we see the full screen of who I had
ten to one, just so we could kind of pick
it apart and see and then of course we know
how the draft went, and then we know how the
actual season went. But here was ten to one going
into the combine, no major misses, a couple guys who
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were left off, and Cody Kessler.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
I turned to you.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I had the order wrong in a couple of ways.
But this was fresh off the college season, fresh off
the Super Bowl, and all these guys are going to
be starters for years to come in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Hey, talk your stuff, Shreg's I love it. This is
the Peter brought the Receipts episode right now.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Hey, I'll tell James Gladsown over with the Jaguars if
you need some help in this draft pass, we'll give
you a call. But yeah, I'm gonna stick with the
top of your list right there. I think Kayleb Williams
was a phenomenal pick there at number one. Again, maybe
I'm a little biased, being a USC guy in a
former Trojan, but.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I think he's going to just continue to get better.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I think that list, all the guys on that list
are really going to continue to get better. They're going
to be household names in the NFL for years to come.
But now you pair up Kayleb Williams with Ben Johnson
as the head coach, and we saw what he did
with the Detroit Lions and just the tools that he
has now in Chicago. Right, and go back and look
at Detroit with Jamiir Gibbs right, the way he got
him the football, Jamison Williams in different ways, he got
jam of the ball right, he found different ways to
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get Montgomery involved. All these different players had a role
in this offense, and and Alman ros Saint Brown.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
It was just so difficult as a defense to defend them.
And now you put them in Chicago.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
You know with Roman Dunsay, you put him in there,
with Khmet, you put him in there with with Kayleb Williams.
Obviously you had DeAndre Swift to that mix. There's so
many different names on that list, Keenan Allen, and now.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
He has all those guys at his disposal.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I think Kayler Williams continue to trend in the right
direction and I can't wait to see what they do
together in Chicagland. Also, he knows what it takes to
win in the NFC North. I think that's the most
important factor there. Cody, I'll say it is bro on
this show.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Shrigs is like the almanac or whatever, like this big
book of history and knowledge. He's like the oracle on matrix.
But I got something in both with my brother Shrigs.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Okay, early on this show, when.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
We talked about the Tennessee Titans and taking a quarterback
number one overall Shregs, I said that they should take
a what a right tackle, right tackle.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
Number three on his list.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Guys, there's Joe a position Shreks.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Does Joe All play Shreks right tackle?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Light tackle?
Speaker 8 (26:23):
And how awesome was that o line?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Shreks Awesome?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Amazing.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
So I just wanted to say, brother, like you are
the oracle.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
Okay, but when a coup you just literally like cut
my feet from beneath me like this, literally just kept
bashing me about right tackle, man TI, like you said,
right guard.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
You know how you know how hard we're all going
to be laughing if draft comes around and they taken
off into tackle.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
My So, So Shregs, I love you, and I'm so
glad that you pointed out Joe All is number three
on your list because there might be a right tackle
Shreks that might go one overall to the Tennessee and
that happens. I'm I'm gonna say I love.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Mantai is one of the nicest people on the planet,
but every once in a while we get a little
slice of how competitive he truly is, and we're living
it right now. Peter, I love the Roma Dunsay appearance
on that list. The Roma Dunza I think out of
last year, and please, for the love of God, don't
show this footage again because I'm like ten months pregnant
in the footage, which is all combine team and all
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combine performance. I think went to Roma Dunesey last year
when he stayed late to keep running the three cone
drill out of just desperation to hit the time perfectly.
Shreg So I love the Roma Dunza appearance and what
he did at the combine in the subsequent week. I
do have a question about bo Nix though, and why
he didn't appear in your top ten list this time
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last year because he was, you know, there was all
these things about him. The sixty six game started in
college and the two schools and he's super old and
then he became bo Nicks for Sean Payton. So what
was your take on him this time last year?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, great call, and he also was a senior ball
who did really well at the senior Ball. But it
was also like, well, you know, we've got these three
shiny objects in Drake May, Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams,
and then there's those other guys. There's Michael Pennix, There's
bon Nicks, and there's JJ McCarthy. They're not going to
go up there. And then as the draft process went on,
all those guys rose a little bit higher and higher
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and higher. I do have a great regret I was
one of those many people who overlooked Bonnicks going into
the Combine as a legitimate top ten guy. I don't
think anyone would doubt that. And Jamie, I would like
to say this, there was no bigger winner at the
Combine than Jamie Erdall, who yes, was nine months pregnant,
working the game in a dress and sneakers at the Combine,
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interviewing everybody. And I was just so happy that you
made it back to Los Angeles and didn't have to
end up in Indianapolis for a week with Sam and
the other girls coming in to go visit their new
baby sister.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
If I had had that third baby girl in Indy,
her name would have been Indy. We had already had
it planned. And all I know is that when I
showed up at my six am flight out of Indy
the next morning and I'm seated next to Robert Sala
and Brian Dable, the three of us are looking at
each other like we don't want to talk about anything football.
Nobody look at us. Also, the two of them are like,
what are you doing here?
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Get home?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Like they true men of families. They were like, what
this is a cause for concern, Get this girl back
to New York City?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
And I did.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
The combine is awesome, Peter. We know you're headed there
this week and we can't wait to look forward to it,
especially because sometimes players emerge from the combine and the
footage lives forever, like the two people living looking at
our sitting at our table this week, Cody.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Look at that air, I mean, and that's our boy.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Oh boy, that was that was an under That was
an underperformance there on the Oh no, a little short there.
I'd put on some lb since my high school basketball days,
so forty yard dash.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I appreciate you just showing the picture instead.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Of showing not the footage. Man, I don't worry.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
Rolled the video. I mean, you know you talk about Jamie.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
We're going to look back.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Where are the green cleats?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Good morning Football, NFL Scout and combine this week in Indianapolis.
It is the perfect site for it because you pretty
much don't have to go outside the entire week that
you're there. You can just stay inside and watch the
players walk in the hallways going from their testing to
the meetings to the on field workouts. Tom pelisera there
for us for NFL Network. Of course, the quarterback's always
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a juicy topic, Tom, especially in the last couple of years.
You really have to keep straight who's working out, who's
just doing meetings, who's not doing testing. Do you have
any answers for us with some of the big.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Names, Well, Jamie, let's start out with Shador Sanders of course,
Dion Sanders' son, who is regarded as one of the
top quarterback prospects in this draft. As our ian Rappidport
reported on Sunday, Sanders not expected to work out or
do any of the on field testing, but he will
be here in Indianapolis to continue meetings with clubs, a
process that began at the East West Shrine Bowl for
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shduor Sanders. There's a lot of layers that people want
to peel back, both in terms of the player that
he is and the type of person that is going
to be presumably the face of someone's franchise.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Here.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
He and cam Ward from Miami, again widely regarded as
the top two prospects in this draft. Unclear at this
point whether or not cam Ward is going to throw.
I would tell you that teams do not anticipate we
see Ward here that he would be on the same
program as Sanders to wait and throw at his pro day.
But most, if not all, of the other top quarterback
prospects are expected to throw in the quarterback session on Saturday.
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That list includes Jackson Dart from Ole Miss, who really
has an opportunity to help himself. I'm told Jalen Milroe
from Alabama is going to throw as well, So is
Notre Dame's Riley Leonard, a bunch of household names if
you're a college football fan, they're going to be out
here showing what they can do on Saturday, and they're
going to be throwing to a wide receiver group that
I think Jamie is one of the other undersold storylines
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in this draft. This is not regarded as a wide
receiver draft like ones we've seen in recent years. There
are not those top end types of players however we
have seen in the past, whether it's from the testing,
the drills, whatever it might be. You can really help
yourself here. Could somebody like Matthew Golden from Texas all
of a sudden put himself into first round consideration. That's
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one of the names I'll be keeping a close eye
on as this process plays out through of course the
week here in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Well, it does feel like Tom, anyone coming out of
Steve Sarkejan offense would be a good take on your
NFL roster. So that wouldn't be a bad option.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Tom.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
We got to get some people in that building with you.
You just said, however, and I heard it echo like
three times. All right, get the scouting gun line up.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
And we saw over there one of the rival networks
didn't put together their set yet, so they're doing some
work right on the other side of this curtain over here.
If you need him over here, I can get him.
I can get him to do some work here.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
That just means you're there early and often, Tom, and
we appreciate it so much. We'll talk to you in
a little bit. There are some names that we will
learn this weekend. But if you watch the fourth annual
All State HBCU Legacy Bowl, it took place this past
weekend at Tulane Universe City in New Orleans. The game
featuring the top NFL Draft eligible players from historically black
colleges and universities. For a recap, here's the guys that
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were on site for us, Steve Weisch and the crew right.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Steve White here, Bucky Brooks, and Charles Davis. A great
day in New Orleans at the All Street HBCU Legacy Bowl.
Team Robinson went at seventeen to fourteen.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
Buckie.
Speaker 10 (33:25):
An exciting game and a spectacular finish for the exclamation point.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yeah, the best of me saying.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
We talked about the talent, but it was really the execution.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Obviously defensive. We saw everything that we want to see today.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
We certainly did.
Speaker 10 (33:36):
We saw guys with NFL aspirations make plays when we
saw guys who were not going to play in the
NFL take great memories with them by their excellent play
as well.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So Charles, you see the defensive play right here?
Speaker 10 (33:46):
What about the player who won the defensive endby Are
you talking about trakejwan Thom? Yes, yeah, because every time
we looked up, number fifty seven was pursuing the quarterback
and more times than not got to it.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And he did it throughout the game.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
It wasn't just a flurry on one series.
Speaker 10 (34:02):
It was quarter after quarter afterquar He ends up putting
the quarterback on the deck four times.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And yes, well, deserving of being.
Speaker 10 (34:09):
The MVP on defense.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, certainly deserving of being the MVP on defense.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
But let's talk about the office again.
Speaker 11 (34:14):
Okay, Daniel Ridgson certainly deserved to be the MVP nine
of twelve, one hundred and ten yards, moved the team
up and down the field, had a touchdown pass. But
really it was a way he managed the game as
the ultimate field general. He walks out of here with
the MVP award and as a winner.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
Yeah, I thought I thought it was bidding that backup
quarterbacks took the front. Yeah, you know, Richardson wasn't the
starter and it was Draylenelli's for the opposite team.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Both of them were in the game at the end.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
They got the game in a flow.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Again.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
The most competitive game that we have seen here for
four years, the showcase for the top players from Black
college football.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
It was a good one this week.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Charles and Bucky, appreciate rolling with you on this one.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Appreciate rolling with you as well. That's our quarterback.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah he a go, Steve. Why should appreciate that?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Man?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Tis always like, that's our quarterback, that's our system. Look
at these two guys working out at the NFL Combine.
It's Manti, it's Cody. They were in Indianapolis. It was
a couple of years ago, but we have the footage
and we're looking back at their combine experience. The NFL Combine,
presented my Microsoft co Pilot, is Thursday on NFL Network
and it's streaming on NFL Plus. There's Manti Tayo, great form,
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Buddy and Cody Casler's at the table as well. We're
going to take go down memory lane finally with their
combine experiences. Mantai, look at you, you.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Young pup, baby face, young pup. Can we go back
to that first picture?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Okay, when we go back to this.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
When we go back to the first picture, it's very
deceiving because it looks like it's a blur and it
looks like I'm running really really fast. But I'll tell you.
I'll tell you a story about what happened at the combine.
So Jarvis, Jarvis Jones, who is drafted by the Steelers
out of Georgia, he didn't participate in the forty yard dash,
and so I don't know how they have it now,
but they don't have the times up when you run
the forty. But Jarvis was on his phone following, and
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so everybody who ran their forty they started to make
a huddle around Jarvis and he would tell him, Hey,
you ran.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
This, you ran that.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Oh so the broadcast knew it, but you guys running
we don't run.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
We don't know our times. So I run mine, right.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
I come back around to the start and there's a
little huddle around Jarvis, and Jarvis is just telling people
at their times.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
And I knew Jarvis because we're trained together. So I
was like, hey, j J was my time?
Speaker 7 (36:24):
And I remember he grabs his phone, he looks down
and he looks up up at me and he goes.
Speaker 8 (36:31):
And I'm like, what was my time?
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Bro?
Speaker 8 (36:32):
And he goes like four eight. I was like, you
shouldn't have told him it was. It was a nightmare.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Guy.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
I saw again that picture that you saw made me
look zoom fast like Sonic. It wasn't sonic, guys, it
was more like sonic to drive through.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
That's what I was doing. It was around a four eight.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
It was.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
It was not.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
It was not two guys drinking milkshakes.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, it looked like a milkshake.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
You're upright, though, The form looked right and everything. I'm
going to go opposite of that too, because you said
four it was bad for you. I got a funny
forty story on top of it. And the same thing
my and I was.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
I think twenty fifteen was out the combiner, twenty sixteen,
same thing. You didn't know the forty until if right.
So we get downe with the our college season. I
think December twenty seventh. We played in the holiday. But
we get done.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
You go straight into combine prep. You have that two
month period.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
I am running forty after forty after forty, trying to
get my time down. I cannot break four nine, right,
I'm at four nine zero four nine two four four
four nine one can't break it.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
And I tried so many times.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
I spent I worked out with practice sports out in
Orange County. We spent hours afterwards working on my get off.
All of that combine rolls around. I'm on about three
and a half hours of sleep.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
I am tired. I know we have the video.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
It's a terrible site to watch, but I run my four.
I am digging everything I have. I just told myself,
I'm going to hit four eight somehow some weight to
combine or at least.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
A low four nine.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Don't break it the entire time I get to the
combine we finish up. First thing, my strength coach tells
me when we get out there, he goes hit four
eight nine, So I say four eight.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I don't tell him the four eight nine part.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Yes, opposite reaction to Mantai as a quarterback who I
was very excited about hitting the four eight because then
I just saw, hey, I run a four eight.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Doesn't matter if it was a four to zo or
four eight nine, huh. I still ran a four eight.
So that was a pretty good pills.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
This is such a crazy juxtaposition with to what we
saw last year was Xavier Worthy and how the entire
place lost their mind and they were watching the time
flash up on the board Shriggs. You were in the
building for that. These stories make me sad now to
hear that these guys didn't even know their time, whereas
now people are celebrating this. Xavier really sprint.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I also think a lot of the drills is what
we focus on, but it's a whole week of being
together with the different guys in your draft class. Cody,
I'll start with you. Who were the other quarterbacks and
who was kind of the alpha dog that year, that
was the pied piper leading everyone around when it came
to that quarterback group.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
You know what shrikes. I don't remember who that top
guy was. Now.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Golf was obviously the number one overall pick that year.
And then I was roommates actually with Carson Wentz. When
I say roommates, that's like a high and by at
one am in the morning because you've been doing interviews
for the last eighteen hours.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
So we didn't spend a lot of time together.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
But Wentz was there, Golf, Dak Prescott was obviously there,
So we had a good group of guys.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
We had a great throwing session.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Actually, I think a lot of guys really helped themselves
and not to be trying to brag too much, but
myself included out a very good performance at the combine
and it really helped me after an up and down
year at USC year. But funny story too, kind of
going off of that, is you do a ton of interviews, right,
you go into the train station is what they call
it down there in the botto.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I don't if they still call it that. Where, Yes,
you go down there, you do all the interviews.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
And I remember I was on the last day of
the interviews, right, and it was the day before we
worked out before we went home, probably my last interview
of the day, and it was with Pet Hamilton, who
was the offensive coordinator in Cleveland at the time.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
Right.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
So I go down there and I kept pushing back
his interview because you just had so many lined up.
I felt terrible. Long, long story short, I get to
the PEP interview, we go do it. I can tell
he's already fed up with me. Right, I love Pet
to this day. We're really close now. And they teach
you and man title will tell you it's a first impression.
This may be your twentieth interview of the day, but
it's your first time in front of this coach, Right,
so be authentic, be real, be positive, be upright. It's
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also midnight. We're all tired, and I remember Pep asking
me questions and you know, hey, what's your favorite cover
two beater? And I'm you know, going and talking about it,
getting into it, and he's on a song, just scroll
and not really paying attention, you know, And then he
asked me another question, and then it goes silent, and
I'm like, you got any more, Coach, and he was like, oh, yeah,
we're good, man, We're good. I w away and I
remember telling myself. I think I text one of my
parents or someone. I said, I promise you I will
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not be a Cleveland Brown on April. And then sure
enough I get drafted by the Cleveland Browns. I go
out there for an official but and then to this state.
Me and Pepper really close.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I love him.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
I spent Thanksgiving Christmas with his family. Amazing coach, but
it was so funny. We still That was the first
story we talked about when I got there. Was I
remember leaving that interview like this guy hates me. I
will never be a Cleveland Brown. And then sure enough
I get a call from Brio, Ohio.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
On April twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Maybe just Peter, maybe he just heard everything you needed
to know right off the bat. It was the first in.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Session, Nanta, your situation was obviously different. You had all
these questions fresh off the stuff that you went through
at the end of your college career. Did you have
great anxiety about answering all these questions in an interview
setting and that was as formal as what was going
on at the comment. I have to think going into
there you were just, you know, ridden with nerves, but
also like, oh do I have to address all this again?
Speaker 8 (40:52):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
It was definitely an experience, Peter. I will say, you know,
I think everything is case by case. My experience would
be different than Cody's, which will be different than Xavier Worthies. Right,
every team that met with me at the train station.
When I would go in there and meet with these teams,
they asked me about the cat fishing thing. Every single one,
well except for one the Saints. The Saints didn't ask
(41:13):
me about that question. They just talked ball with me.
But it was an experience that I'll never forget, as
an experience that I wish I could forget.
Speaker 8 (41:22):
But it was definitely a growing experience. Because there was
a lot of growth there.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
There's a lot of teams that had their their questions
and once they asked their questions, I answered them and
that was it. There was others that really kept digging,
and so they wanted to see I think more so
and Cody, let me know what you think, it's more
so to see how you react. How do you react
under pressure? Do you crumble? Do you do you shy
away from pressure?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Are you?
Speaker 8 (41:43):
Are you authentic?
Speaker 7 (41:44):
And I try to be my best self every time
that I was on behind the camera, and so you
could imagine for what was that twenty two year old
kid that type of pressure.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Look at the front road, SHREKX are you there?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Sure is right here?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Bottom right front here?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Look at that face.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Look at them study Batista right there, two down too,
over right, and there's shregs behind shreg.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
For those Jamie's out here pointing all out for them.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
Okay, I'm gonna ask you, Shrikes, what what when you
I mean, I don't know if you remember that, but
what were your thoughts during that time when you you know.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
You obviously what was happening?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Empathy felt terrible that you had to do this in
this setting, But Also, I thought you handled yourself well.
But I remember being at that press conference. I didn't
realized I'd be front and center looking like I was
a miserable sap. I was probably excited that week, but
that was like, that was the real story that week.
Matta Tables can actually speak, And I thought you handled
yourself amazingly. But I had a great empathy for you
because I felt like you were a twenty one year
old kid, and here we go, this is going to
(42:41):
be the start of what's going to be a very
uncomfortable ten minutes for you.
Speaker 8 (42:43):
Thank you, Shreks. I love you, brother, thank you so much.
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
It's a great opportunity for guys that you know, to
really showcase what they can do, to go out there
and really compete. So I'm excited for the players that
are going to be out there this year.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
And then he turned and he ran out of that room.
Unfortunately it was at what speed for coat?
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Sorrys listen, I'd say this guy, if I got to
run forty yards, it's a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Okay, So nice, nice man.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
SI.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Cody Kessler still on the show all week long. Manti
Seer as well, GMT. Melivia back
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