April 7, 2025 • 40 mins
Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with a recap of the Colorado Showcase. Hosts Sara Walsh, Kyle Brandt, Isaiah Stanback, and Justin Pugh discuss the criticism of Shedeur Sanders 'tapping' the ball before he throws it. Aaron Rodgers is still looking for a team, are the Vikings still in the mix? Plus, how did Justin go from the couch to blocking Von Miller?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Welcome to GMFP, Live in Los Angeles, Live in New
York City. It is Monday, April seventh. Sarah Walsh alongside
Isaiah standback.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
We've got Kyle Brant. We've got a very professional.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Former New York Giants first round draft pick in Justin Pugh. Kyle,
you were just talking about. Look at Justin next year.
Isaiah's rocking a Sesame.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Street T shirt.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
He look, I just came from a Kingsman's shoes, you know,
so you were in a movie to Kingsman. I've seen
you suited and booted over there.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It looks great, Isaiah.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
What episode is this for you? Isaiah?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
It's my first one, so I'm still getting all figured out.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Listen, Isaiah's done three thousand episodes. It's incredible. But you
look cleaned off. You to love everything about it.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Now, you made it. Now we're wondering. You've shown up
in a sweatshirt.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Tomorrow we'll leave the yours wondering. By the way, you
and Isaiah were teammates. Maybe not on the football field,
but you were teammates in a very prestigious broadcast boot camp.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Look at this, Look at a height difference. I don't know,
I don't know. I need to raise me up. Can
I stood something next time?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah? You're a tall guy.
Speaker 7 (01:18):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Yeah, I'm not a small human being. But he makes
me look more. Why they stick us in the back? Yeah?
You see that? How Dan dactly? Yeah? The quarterbacks?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Matt ties over there to the honey Badger.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
What was the biggest lesson you learned?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Obviously it was justin dressed for the job you want?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Would you learn?
Speaker 8 (01:34):
You know, I learned a lot about the industry. Hey,
and I'm sure you JP did as well. You know,
obviously this looks you know, I know, Kyle, you know,
individuals like you said, you guys make it look easy, but.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Being on TV takes a lot of work.
Speaker 8 (01:45):
And that's what's so great about the about the boot
camp that the NFL players are allowed to go. Do
you put in you hope that they choose you and
then you utilize the reps to go out there to try.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
To get in a position like this. But you guys
do an amazing job.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Well, we're happy to have you both here.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
We're also happy to have this morning our NFL Network
Insider in Rap Report and the Big News, shar Sanders
took center stage at Colorado's NFL Showcase. Give us the fallout, coaches, GMS,
what is the word on the street this morning?
Speaker 7 (02:11):
And that's what a pretty star set of affair the
Colorado Showcase.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Not Shador Sanders prota.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
There were several other players there showing off for NFL Scouts,
including Travis Hunter, a potential where I would say likely
top five pick into defensive drills, but did end up
running a route. So several of the teams who were
there also there to check him out see if he
would go two or three, four five maybe. But let's
focus in on Shador Sanders because of course he was
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the main event. He was the headline guy at this event.
So he threw I would say, about sixty or so
passes for NFL Scouts, all sorts of routes, flash the
deep ball, I would say, most notably.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Kind of did a thing.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
After talking to NFL Network about basically how everyone thinks
he can't throw the deep balls, we made sure to
show us, like right here, that he actually can throw
the depfall sounded like a really positive work out, just
a couple of ball to the ground, a couple drops
from receivers as well. And if you were a team
like say the Cleveland Browns, who were there with a
ton of people a lot of personnel, the New York
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Giants who had basically their entire coaches to have a
personnel department there you were a team that wanted to
be in the store Sanders business at two or three
or wherever you draft in the top ten, there was
plenty there that you probably liked. Another interesting note after
this was the Tennessee Titans planned to show up, you know,
kind of sparsely at this event and then workout Shador
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Sanders a little later in the week privately work out
Travis Hunter as well. Shortly after that workout, the Titans
breast met with Chador ended up canceling that workout, making
one believe that at least they are closing in on
the decision about what to do with the number one
over pick. I know a lot of people believed that
it ended up being cam were there no firm and
final word from the Titans, but canceling the Chador Standers
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workout that was set for this week at least an
intriguing move by Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And one that will be picked apart and dissected and
what is it mean?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
And thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So there is all of those things, and you know
how it goes when we get closer to the draft, right,
there's all the secrecy and these chess moves. Isaiah, what
is your biggest takeaway from the Colorado Showcase?
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Yeah, so, first of all, I'm going to be on
record to say that, like, I'm not a huge fan
of showcases, just because, especially from a quarterback position, there's
not a lot to be told in a QB showcase.
You have your receivers, you have your tight end, you're
running backs, and its routes on air. This is what
you do in warm ups, this is what you do
with gazillion times in the off season. So I believe
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that these scouts are going there just for affirmation. They
want to see the footwork in person. They want to
see the velocity of the ball, they want to see
the ball location. These are all things that they've seen
on film, but they may not have seen with their
own eyes in person. You have to remember there's entire
scouting departments that these teams have for the first time,
these coaches and decision makers are going to have opportunity
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to go see this, but they're not seeing them versus
DB's the seeing.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
The pass rush.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
They're not seeing these guys have to do any adjust
This is as simple as is going to get for
these quarterbacks. So I don't have huge takeaways, but some
of these gms may in regards to how the Titans
have going went ahead and counseled the workout.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
It leaves me curious to say, what is it that
they saw or did.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
Not see that seemingly leads them to believe that they
have their decision made. I'm not sure what the difference
was going to be between a cam Ward and a
Shador Sanders. When I look at the highlights from that workout,
all I can see is the ball wasn't as tight
as you wanted it to be. Cam Ward has a
little bit more velocity on the ball. They knew that
you're not going to see true footwork in this in
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a session because there's no pass rush. So I don't
know what they're looking for out of these quarterbacks because
this is as easy as a platform is going to get.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I hear what you're saying, Isaiah, it's a strong take
I thought this pro day was revelatory. I think my
huge takeaway is I don't think he can draft shador
Sanders because he pats the football. I think he'll be
undrafted all through seven roundsers no possible you could draft.
Bring up the videotape guy's irreparable damage to Shadora Sanders's
reputation as a football player as a human being. Just
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watched right before he throws, if we can see it,
he does a little tap one sixteenth of a second,
he pats the ball, and I think you have to
take him off the board.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Not the first round.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Not the first He's gonna free fall and end up
going into a different line of work because it's not
just me saying that.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
It's not a straw man.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Go ahead and go to the social media component. We
had high visible players Andre Cisco now with the Jets, boy,
better stop patting the ball. We're breaking on that early, okay.
And then Darius Slayton on the Giants is trying to
defend them. But Michael Parsons comes in. You realize that
pat on the ball could be difference between a sacker
throw away completion. Again, I don't think you draft Schendor
Sanders because I did the research. Guys, there has never
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been an NFL quarterback who pats the ball who's had
any success in the league.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I even have videotape. Bring up the videotape.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
All the guys who pat the ball like that guy
never amounted to anything.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Give me more. It's not just a one off.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Matthew Staff pat right before he throws, has never done
squat in the league, never made any money. This guy
doesn't never bright future. Look at the pack before the
giant deep ball again. You can't draft your door, Josh Allen,
What do you want? MVP pat before he throws the ball?
Brady again, he actually played for a team called the Pats,
and he's patting Rogers. Watch Pat get out of here.
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I'm gonna go back down to planet Earth. Now, you
knew that after Shador's workout, showcase, spectacle, whatever circus, whatever
he wanted to call it, they were going to be takes,
and they were going to be daggers, and they were
going to be critics. Even if someone didn't have any criticism,
they were gonna make it up just to resonate and
just to be heard. And that's going to be the
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shadure story at the draft, and when he starts Week one,
whatever it may be, there's gonna be criticism just for
criticism's sake. But standing there watching him patting the ball
before he throws and saying this is going to be
a big problem and he's going to break the rookie
exceptions record is stupid. It's doing it just for doing it.
Look at what I just showed. You don't do it.
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If you have honest criticism, then make it. But if
you're doing it just to do it, stop because you
know who else pats the ball. Cam Ward pats the
ball and I watched his Pro day and none of
you guys said squat. You're saying it because his last
name is Sanders, because who his father is, because you
know it'll resonate.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
He pats the.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Ball just like Josh Allen does, just like Tom Brady does,
and on and on and on. If you want to
criticize anything about his attitude or his arm strength, fine,
but the patting the ball thing is stupid. And I
hope you don't talk about it in this show from
this day forward, and I know you'll talk about on
the other shows. Good luck, Leave the guy along unless
you have something honest to say.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
That's my take.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Well, let's think about what's going on on the football
field when this is happening. Defensive backs are turning their
running down field. You have d lineman in your face.
You have six foot five rock Perty just came out
and said he doesn't see forty percent of his receivers
down the field.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Do we really think people are honing.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
In on the pat What I loved about your doors
pro day is we got to see the intangibles. You
got to see him in the huddle, breaking down the guys.
That is what a quarterback's all about. I don't need
to see him throwing a deep ball with no Michael
Parsons breathing down his neck. I want to see him
controlling the huddle. I want to see him being a
leader of men. After this Pro day, he has a
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chance to talk with the reporters, to talk with some
of the coaches, to actually work with the young man
and get to know him other than the persona that's
out there in media. Shador Sanders is ready for the spotlight.
Think about the pressure that this young man has been
playing under since he was eight nine years old. With
that Sanders on your back playing quarterback, He's had to
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overcome an immense amount of pressure. The one thing that
I want to see from Shador, which we don't get
to see.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
In the pro day, is the sacks.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
He's taken a lot of sacks throughout his time. I'd
rather the completion percentage. And I heard this from Jay Gruden.
I thought this was brilliant. Seventy four percent completion. I'd
almost rather see you at seventy sixty eight, but less sacks,
less getting behind the change on first and second down.
Speaking from an offensive lineman, that is the one thing
that I think your door.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Has to get figured out.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
But he showed the deep ball, he showed the intangibles,
and he showed what's gonna make him a first round pick.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I like it. I like everything about that. JAF.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
Can we go it just a little bit deeper? Col
because I know you say you don't want to talk
about this no more.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Let's go ahead and talk about it all right, Listen.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
I may have played a little bit of quarterback on
my day, I actually got to play a quarterback for
my entire collegiate career.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I'm not that dark, am I that door? Okay? Let's
go into the light real quick. All right.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
So I played quarterback all throughout college, and I backed
up Tom Brady for the New England Patriers for about
ero point two seconds. Okay, but I'm gonna talk about
this pat thing a little bit. What tends to happen
for quarterbacks? Okay, yes, it is a crutch. All right,
let me go ahead and back up at this light.
I'm back into the.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Light, all right. So, hey, that's what happened is?
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Hey, is you like to pat the ball because it's
a security thing. When you get the ball from the center,
you get both hands on the rock.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
You are talking about both hands.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Being on the ball because you don't want to get
strip sacked.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And right before you go ahead and let the.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Ball go, you tend to separate your hands, and quarterbacks
naturally have this little crutch, right. It's like a little
tick where you literally pack the ball right before you
release the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Now, why is this such a conversation? Right?
Speaker 8 (11:08):
This is a conversation because a lot of defensive backs
like to use this as an indicator.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
You just say, we're gonna break all over that.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Maybe, but most of the time the guys do not
get the break that quickly. When you're dropping back, you
get a hand on the right real quick and you.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Let the ball go.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
Defensive Backs like the backpedal, back pedal, backpedal, and if
it's a slow patter, if a quarterback has a slow,
long release, then all of a sudden, it's a problem
because it's letting me know that you're now releasing the ball,
so before the receiver can break, I now see your
hands separate, and now I can break on the ball,
and that quarter second of a pat.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Gives me the hands up that I need to go
ahead and make a play on the ball.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
But in reality, how many defensive backs are breaking on
the ball and making interceptions because a quarterback is padding.
It's not a reality. Trust me, I'll played the position.
You just showed highlights of the greatest ones to do
it go ahead and showing examples of how those guys
past the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
It's not a thing.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
It's something that you want to do away with as
a quarterback because it does give them a little bit
of a heads up, but it's not going to make
the difference. And when you look at their stats, shoulder
Sanders is not a turnover magnet.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
So you could talk about padding the ball all day long.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
He has a better completion percentage, he has a better
turnover ratio, and I believe that he's the better quarterback
in this draft. And to your point, Kyle, the hate,
as David Chapelle would say, is coming along all day
long in regards to the Sanders name.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, and he can get rid of the padding or
he cannot or he cannot get.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Rid of it, and just play with it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Like all the guys and many more I showed who
have done it for years. They want you to believe
that it is like a poker tell like someone who
is about to double down or bluff, and they scratch
their eye every time.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
And you know it's not that easy.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And I know that some of the social media discussion
amongst players next players around the league was all right, well,
if he does that, and you think it's gonna be
so easy, then all these DB's better have eight plus
interceptions this year, get him twice every time they play him.
And I know our old friend Jason mccordy was kind
of laughing about that, a guy who played dB for years. Listen,
the knives were out, are always going to be out.
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It's going to be the legacy of this guy. Whatever
he does, good or bad, there's going to be something
to pick at, just for picking AT's sake. I thought
he threw really well. And if he had such a
bad tell that everybody, every dB in the field knows
where the ball is going, then why, like Justin said,
is his completion percent at so high? Why did he
not lead the nation in interceptions? Because he's just throw
telling you where he's going to throw the ball. It's dumb,
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it's nonsense. I really think it's hot air, and it
takes the focus away from how we really performed, which
is very well.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
This will surprise no one, But we are not done
talking about Deon Sanders and Shudur Sanders on this show.
We got more to come. It is draft season. That
means the path to the Draft is back at. Experts
are going to take you inside the film room to
show you which prospects are rising to the top of
draft boards and are ready to transform into NFL stars.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
From evaluations to.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Draft needs for all thirty two teams, We've got you covered.
It's Path to the Draft, presented by Harbor Frates weeknight,
six Eastern on NFL Network and streaming on NFL Plus.
Coming up though, we've got video a Cooper Cup and
his former Rams teammate that's going to get you in
your feelings. We're going to break out the white mords
and tell you how we feel about it.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Plus, Aaron Rodgers still does not have a team there
he is in a Jets logo. We know he will
not play for the Jets. But right after this rap
sheet from our news departments is going to give the
very very latest.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
It might not be the report that you expected.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
To be or want it to be, but trust me,
it's coming right after this Good Morning Football on a Monday.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
We are cruising.
Speaker 10 (14:32):
Let's go Good morn Football.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We want to bring in wrapping forward, our NFL network
insider back into the conversation and full disclosure. We're on
this production call very early this morning talking about Aaron
Rodgers and we were like, you know what, we just
need to get Ian back.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
What is going on? What is taking so long?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What is the latest Aaron Rodgers Ian rapaport go.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
There has been a lot of smoke about this decision. Obviously,
we just came from the NFL owners meetings in Palm
Beach and we had several Steelers people, including Art Rooney himself,
talk about the positive momentum toward a deal between the
Steelers and Aaron Rodgers, basically saying that he believed it
was going in the right direction. He wanted a decision
sooner rather than later. He's not impatient, but eventually he
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will be. Mike Tomlin, Omar Kahn all sort of said
the same thing. They would love him, they would welcome him,
they'd want him. They haven't put a deadline on it yet,
and they're waiting.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
That's really where we are.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
The Minnesota Vikings were very clear that Aaron Rodgers as
of right now is non an option for them.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
They're moving full.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Speed ahead with JJ McCarthy. There are no other spots.
So if Aaron Rodgers is going to play football in
twenty twenty five, it is going to be for the
Pittsburgh Steelers. Would not be surprised if there was announcement
from him over the next couple weeks. It has to
be theoretically before the draft, because if the Steelers don't
get an answer by April, they will likely draft a quarterback.
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In fact, they may draft a quarterback anyway. So the
update is really that there's no update, it's right where
we thought. It's a lot of positive momentum with Aaron
Rodgers and the Steelers. It seems like that's the most
likely place by far. He just hasn't come out and
said it yet. Meanwhile, the specter of retirement, possible retirement
doesn't seem likely, but at least would be considered an
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option until he makes a decision.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
So that's where we are.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, and you've done this for years for people waking
up on Monday morning who are rolling their eyes at
the lack of the developments in this Can you pull
back the curtain a little bit in what you do?
What it's like to cover the story of Rogers versus
other players, Rogers who has a unique inner circle or
doesn't have one at all?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Like, what is the challenge and what.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Is the difference between Rogers becoming announcement versus any other
player any other situation.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
Well, I think, Kyle, with Aaron Rodgers, you never quite know.
Like there's plenty of things that I think I know,
plenty of things I'll hear from sources close to the situation,
people who claim that I know or hey, you know,
Aaron Rodgers is definitely leaning here or he's going to
make a decision here. I mean there are people reporting
that he was going to make a decision Wednesday of
free agency.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Well that did not happen.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
I think one thing you have to be careful of
is assuming you know what's in his mind. And I
would say the same thing with Rogers as he used
to say with Bill Belichick, somewhat similar situation. People who
claim to know what they are thinking should really question
that source. Not a lot of people they talk to.
People they do talk to don't necessarily talk to people
like me, and if they do, they want to make
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sure that what they say doesn't get reported.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
So really, what you have to do is lean on facts.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Facts, which is Aaron Rodgers visited the Steelers. Facts which
is the Steelers have come out and said that was
a very positive visit. My sources said that as a
positive visit as well.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Facts. Aaron Rodgers now.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Chooses the Steelers or chooses to retire, lean on the
real things rather than the gossip, because too often the gossip's.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Going to be wrong.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
And thank you for that perspective.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Well, just yeah, we'll just continue to wait until we
hear from Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
And thanks so much. Moving over to the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Now, a couple items related to those Cowboys. First, Dallas
released backup quarterback of Tree Lance Lance signed by the Chargers,
and then the Cowboys traded for Joe Milton to be
dacked back that Milton was previously with the Patriots, and
that leads us into our second topic, the Cowboys twenty
twenty five off season. Isaiah, We're going to start with you.
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You're in Dallas. Should we be concerned you work for
the team?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
No pressure?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah, no, there's no concern. And I know that a
lot of people obviously the.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
Cowboys, they're the star, They're you know, as Kyle would
say at times, America's team. But the reality is, these
guys have made some very strategic moves. Now is it
the big splash moves that everybody is looking for? Is
it the big headline moves that everybody's looking for?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
The answer is no.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
But I would like to bring up a graphic and
show the work that is being done by the new
head coach, Brian Schoanheimer. See you most under the radar
additions that the Cowboys have made. There has been a
point emphasis of controlling the line of scrimmage in Dallas,
And this is who Brian schott Himer has hired. He
went out and got Cardinals old line coach Clayton Adams
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to be his offensive coordinator. Clayton Adams was regarded and
is regarded as one of, if not the best of
offensive line coach in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
What else did they do?
Speaker 8 (19:27):
They went out and hired the offensive line coach Connor Riley,
who happens to be considered to be the best offensive
line coach in college football.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
There's an emphasis in the trenches. Else, what else did
they do?
Speaker 8 (19:38):
They went to the defensive side of the ball and
they hired Aaron Whitecotten, who is Aaron Whitecott. Well, he
is just happened to be the best defensive.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Line coach in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
So they got the best offensive line coach, they got
the best defensive line offensive line coach, and they got
the best office line coach out of college. These guys
are putting a point of emphasis.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
In the trenches. I know, JP, you can appreciate that
when you.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Talk about Brydon shot Himer, everybody he's not the big
headline coach that everybody was looking for, but sometimes they
just have to do his job. And that is to
be a manager of men. You don't have to be
the do it all coach. You don't have to be
the guy that simply is regarded as a as a
Bill Belichick or Mike Tomler, any of these big, big,
high high arching coaches. If you put guys in place
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to do what they do best, then you can have
some success. And that has been the focus of the
Dallas Cowboys, and they're building it from the big fellas
up front. And it might be a little bit of
a tip of the hat as to what they may
be planning to do in this year's draft.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Isaiah, I'm a bit nervous for your Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Now.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Look, I know you're with the team every offseason. It
seems like the Cowboys do this over and over again
and say, hey, we're.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
The Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
You should want you should want to be our coach,
you should want to come play for us, you should
want to take a pay cut. And every single year
we play poker with our players. We pay Dak Prescott
sixty million dollars a year. We're paying CD at the
top of the market. We claim we don't know who
Michael Parson's agent is and We're going to end up
paying him the highest defensive paid player in the league. Now,
I'm looking at the trenches right now, and I'm still
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wondering did we address those right? We have some young
talent that we drafted. We think we have some guys
up front, but we have to continue to prove that
day in and day out. The Dallas Cowboys, Yes, you
have Dak, you have CD, you have Micah, but after that,
you're still there's still some question marks. You look at
Mazi Smith OsO A Digizua is a great player. Love
that they paid him and got that deal done. But
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every time I turn on the TV or I hear
something going on. I was down at owner meetings and
seeing the hoopla that comes out of Dallas. There is
one hundred percent concern when you look at the Dallas
Cowboys because I still see a team that finished the
year stronger than many people thought. They're getting Dak Prescott back,
but I'm not having all the answers. You look at
the NFC East, you look at what the commanders have done.
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You're looking at what the Philadelphia Eagles and who they are. Obviously,
the New York Giants are bringing up the rear and
they have a lot to prove. But I'm still a
little nervous and big d Isaiah.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
You're the man.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I want everyone to understand at home that Isaiah literally
works for the Cowboys and ass point blank are you concerned?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
And it'd be like.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Someone asking me, like, has the twenty twenty five NFL
media group offseason given you a reason for concern? Well,
we have the departure of Peter Schrager, Like break that down. No, no, no,
I think we're fine because we have this, this, and this,
Like it's not the most easy thing to answer, and
I think you're doing God's work going and talking about
the trenches and the coaches and everything.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
It's a really, really strange time for the Cowboys. I'm
not gonna say good or bad. It's strange because there
is very little buzz and there is very little sizzle
and in the most unusual circumstances. Listen, it's not just Philadelphia.
Washington is a bright, shiny object who has been nothing
for the last twenty years. Now they're one of the
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coolest teams in the league. And the Giants seem fun
and they're gonna draft someone really high and they got
Jamis and Russell.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Like, there is so little buzz.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
So even when the team, when the Cowboys are the
Cowboys for all their faults, they still have buzz. And
it's still Jerry surrounded by microphones and you're hanging on
every word. Are you right now? Like it's if Mike
and Mike get paid, he should get paid. They're gonna
they have this like this twelve draft pick and if
no one knows who they're gonna take. Even in a
lot of the draft breakdowns, which we do twenty four
to seven, there's not a lot of Cowboys conversation and
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Cowboys takes. So we're at a place right now where
what we should be to the headline of their offseason,
by far, should be that Mike McCarthy was let go
and they have a new Dallas head Cowboys head coach.
And there was a time when the Cowboys had a
new coach was oh my god, this is leading every
show in every segment and we're like yeah, I mean,
no one's that fired up about it.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
So I'm not concerned. I'm not excited.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm a little bit bored, and I'm just waiting for
this jolt of electricity.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
It didn't come in free agency.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
It's not coming from a Mica contract.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Maybe it comes from the draft.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I want them to clear the table on draft night,
trade up, go from twelve to eight, do something really bold.
I'm like, the Cowboys mean business. They're not just gonna
hand this season to the Eagles and the Commanders.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I'm a little bit bored.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
And all this time in my entire life, I can
remember thinking the Cowboys were great. I can remember thinking
the Cowboys were bad. I can't ever really remember thinking
the Cowboys were boring.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
And they are right now, you know what.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
I respect that take. But in the words of Nagade's butler,
the Cowboys are being vinne vetty sneaky right now, vene
vetty sneaky.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
And the reason why and.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
The reason why I say that is because in this league,
where we're so used to seeing the headlines that we
want to see rap sheet come on there and talk
about who just got signed, it gets forgotten and it
gets left behind this.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Thing called development.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
There's this thing called development that still has to take place.
Coaches still have a very influential role in this league,
and everybody wants the player that has already made it
he's already that guy. He's already the star that everybody wants.
When in reality, when you look at most teams' rosters,
they might draft somebody in the first round, they might.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Draft somebody in the seventh ground.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
Regardless of where they were drafted, there still has to
be coaching and progression and development that has to take place.
So when you look at the trenches, you look at
the officsive line. Dallas has two first round picks on
the offensive line that have to continue to get developed.
One of them is all pro already, one of them
didn't do anything last year. And Tyler guy, he has
to figure out life. That's why they brought in some
help there. I still think that obviously Zach Martin left
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a huge gaping hole on the offensive line, but they
have a couple of guys that most.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
People would know about.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
There are some brawlers in there jp that you could appreciate,
that have the gut and the will and the gall
that just needs some coaching and development. On the defense
side of the ball, Mozzie Smith, he's a first round pick,
hasn't come along. What do they do They get white
guy to go out there and help him, right, So,
this development piece is there. The Cowboys have always been competitive.
That is not me just because I worked for them.
That is the reality. They've always been competitive. The issue
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has always been they haven't got over the hunk.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
So what's gonna take to get over the hunk?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Quarterback Sheear Sanders showed off his accuracy and his deep
ball ability during Colorado's showcase on Friday. Was it enough
to change the minds of some critics? Our guy Steve
Weisch and Brian Baldinger sat down with Shador to talk
about his performance.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Shuart, what about this because you didn't test, you didn't
you know, throw at at the combine or anything like this?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Did you put any added pressure on yourself to come
out here and say and do that.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
No, there's no pressure. It's pressure when I wake up
in the morning, you know. So there's no added pressure
anywhere in my life, I'll say at all.
Speaker 12 (26:20):
I thought the script had a lot of variety to it,
including the final two minute drill what you want, a
lot of games on Baylor. I'm just thinking some of
the games going back, like was that part of the process, Like, Okay,
it's crunch time, let's go down and finish this thing.
Speaker 11 (26:33):
Yeah, because that's the most important part of football.
Speaker 9 (26:36):
And I know that's where I'm the.
Speaker 11 (26:38):
Best, you know, in in the class and the best
in the country at is in a two minute so
you know that's that's that's where my X factor comes
out in.
Speaker 12 (26:46):
It's almost a pretty football. When you go deep, you
do it like is that a natural thing? The spirals tighter,
the accuracy is it's right to the fingers. Like if
you always thrown a deep ball like that, did you
need to learn that?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Nah?
Speaker 9 (27:00):
I heard I can't throw to the ball, so that ball,
that's what I hear.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
But that I'm gonna break that out. Yeah, it down.
Speaker 11 (27:09):
I don't know where they get that from, you know.
So every I understand different thrones, and I understand what
has to be done. Like I don't throw one balls
every time if it's unnecessary. Why I don't want to
make it hard on my receivers to catch the ball.
I understand, you know, with the good the strengths, their weaknesses,
and I'm not gonna make it tough on them. That's
my whole job.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
What do you say people say you can't throw the
deep ball. As we're going through this process, do you
pay attention.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
I just know that's the devil trying to get at me.
Speaker 11 (27:35):
Man. You know, I know I'm one of Guy's favorites,
so I'm not really tripping on.
Speaker 12 (27:40):
We saw we saw under center today, nigga. You obviously
Pat Shermer. You guys had your inside receivers or outside receivers.
You're playing with tempo. That's probably going to change a
great deal at the NFL level. You wanted to show
some of that, the play action running back in the
backfield and a little bit of movement as well.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
You gotta understand my basis though.
Speaker 11 (27:57):
My dad was my coach in uh since I was
six seven, So that's what that's where I learned. I
learned under center first. I didn't learn shotgun until you know.
It took a little time, but that's where you know,
that's where having great parents, you know, my mom and
dad showing you different parts of life, doing different things
with you. So whenever you get older, it's second nature.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Let's Shudur Sanders there.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
When we come back Cooper Cup now in Seattle after
eight seasons with the Rams, We're going to show you
an emotional, very cool goodbye that'll get you in your Feelings.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Next, Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Good morning everyone, it is time to get emotional. We
call this segment All the Feels. We're going to show
you some video that tugs at the heart strings, and
then we're going to pull out the whiteboards and describe
what we're feeling in one word. We're gonna start with
Cooper Cup and a short piece that shows his last
workout with the Rams as he says goodbye to his
teammates for the final time.
Speaker 13 (29:05):
It doesn't, necessarily, I guess, feel real, but it's been
like an absolute blessing in my life to be able
to watch him work, and to be able to be
by his side, and to be able to work with
him and compete with him, and then also to hear
all of the advice that he's given and the cues
that he has in the game of football, and the
understanding he has of how to be a leader in
the locker room, how to be a professional, how to
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be a father, how to be a great teammate, and
how to be one of the best players in the
National Football League. It's been the perfect combination of everything.
And I know that this won't be the end of
our relationship, but we will be able to continue to
grow and it'll be exciting to see him do his
thing out there.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Okay, guys, wipe the tears away.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
What is the one word that describes your feelings on
Cooper Cup's departure?
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Justin kick this thing up.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
I know we're trying to be emotional, but I'm going business.
This is a business. This is the NFL. I had
a chance to talk to Sean McVay down at owners
meetings and he said, look, I came in with Cooper
Coup twenty seventeen, both young guys starting out in this business.
He wins a triple crown, he wins the Super Bowl.
Every dog will have his day and here's time for
him to move on. This is a business. I don't
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care how much you love someone. Everyone wants to get
paid for going out there and playing football. And unfortunately
we saw Pooka there. Pokah's playing the exact same position
as Cooper Cup. They go out get DeVonta Adams. It's
the nature of trying to win Super Bowls and Sean
McVay will put no one in front of that. And
that's why this is a business. And it's just a
reminder follow the money. It tells the story.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
Yeah, you might be following the money, but I'm go ahead,
go ahead and follow the respect. The fact that they
are holding this man in such high regard, to me
is just the ultimate tip of the hat, the ultimate
show respect. This is not how you transition from one
team to the next.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
When you watch that video, all you see.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Is respect from coaches to former players at Whitworth being there,
to the Obficely, the quarterback, to the Pookin Nakua, the
guy who is ultimately the reason why he's moving along
to another team because Pokin Nakua is the next man up.
They've shown so much respect to Cooper cup In and
what he's done for this organization, how he's built up
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that position. I know coach Yards, the receivers coaches is
in the fields right now as well, because he's done
a heck of a job with that unit. But just
huge respect to how they're allowing him to go out,
allowing him to still work out with the team and
knowing that he's just going home to wrap up his career.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, I have to say, watching the video, it's very
charming to me that they got the boys together for
one last bro session and one last lift and just
to hug it out like it's very relatable on a
small scale, like one last poker game before you know
you're never going to be the same friends again or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
So I mean, just have a legend like that.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Cooper Cup is an all time RAM and he's an
all time RAMS receiver for an organization that has had
some incredible wide receivers. Listen, we cannot overlook the idea
of what he did in the twenty twenty one season.
He had one hundred and forty five catchuds. It's unbelievable,
sixteen touchdowns, nineteen hundred plus yards. And it's not just
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that he's a good player. It's like Cooper Cup represents something.
Cooper Cup is for every kid out there who thinks
they can make the NFL and maybe they're not Calvin
Johnson physically.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
This is a.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Third round pick out of Eastern Washington. It says something
about dreams, that says something about the NFL draft that
you pay attention to those third round picks because they
could end up being legends.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
They could end up being Hall of famers.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That third round pick out of Eastern Washington was eating
secondaries alive. Whenever he felt like it. He was an
unstoppable player. And business is business, and he's got to leave,
and I get that, But I just an all time RAM,
an all time twenty first century wide receiver, just a
fantastic player who gives a lot of kids dreams and
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a lot of players things to aim for.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
So I miss him. I think that's an absolute legend.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I hope he goes and has one hundred catches for
the Seahawks this year.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
But he's an all time RAM and I miss him already.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I'm going watching the video.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I'm going bittersweet with the little crying emoji. When you
talk to these guys, almost any player, any player, when
you ask them when they're done playing, what they're going
to miss the most. I've never heard anyone say the
game on Sunday. Everyone always says the time I spent
in the locker room. I swear to God, Like right,
it feels like across the board, guys always say what
I'm going to miss the most is being with the
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guys in the locker room because and you know that
once you trade you it's not the same, right, Like
you've got different pockets of friends in different cities.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
And teams.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
But when you have something special the way he did,
it won't be the same in that way. And yes
he will suit up on Sundays, and yes he will
still play, and yes he can still find success in
all those things, but that group that you saw there,
that part will not be the same. And I think
as I was watching that video, that was what was
going through my mind. Is that you constantly hear guys
say and it's not even like what's.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Your most favorite one memory?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Someone will say the super Bowl, or someone might say
this game where I broke this record.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
But when you say what are you going to miss
the most.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
About the game, guys always say that it's the time
spent with those guys in the locker room. So that's
what I was thinking as I was watching that video.
And you don't see that. I don't think I've ever
seen that before where they put out like this video
where you guys get one last workout, and so justin
I was really surprised, cutthroat right out of the gate
on that one. Just business like, Hey, it's what the
suit says.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I mean, we should have known the business.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
This happened to me when I left the New York giants.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
You think you're going to go somewhere, you're on scholarship
in college, you get drafted somewhere, and then the business
of football kicks in. The salary cat takes over and
they're like, hey, you value yourself here and this is
where the team values you. So for me, I think
if we can get down to the baseline of the
money tells the story, It's like, let's get over our.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Feelings, let's go play football.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
He's gonna have two times each year to go prove
the rams direct and he probably will.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Segments about emotion, maybe we don't do those when Justin's
on set with us.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
No problem.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
The Lions Aiden Hutchinson broke his leg during Detroit's Week
six matchup with the Cowboys, ending the star season prematurely.
Hutchinson posted some video of the progress he has made
on Instagram recently as a source of motivation for the
upcoming season. You see him running there, what is one
word that described your feelings? Scene Hutchinson running Justin for redemption?
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Let's go, Well, am I gonna get emotional here? Not
too emotional? He is moving. To see a big man
moving at that speed. If you listen to the audio.
You hear him trucking and getting after it. He's working
out with Brett Fisher, one of the best pts in football,
had him in Arizona, had his own facility.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Hutchinson was trying to.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Make a comeback for when he came back for the
Super Bowl. He is going to be rare to go. Yeah,
you can hear him right there. It's like when you
watch Serena play tennis. You can like hear the violence.
He's coming back with vengeance. He's going to have a
time to get after it. He had led the league
and tackles for losses and sacks before he went down.
Excited to see him get back out there.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I got I'm going to go for this one. If
you know, you know, I got vibranium. Like that guy
is made of something different. I know we saw him
break and it was absolutely just crushing to watch as
a fan. But the physicality of him running and on
that repaired and everything he's gonna do this year. I
have vibranium. It comes from Wakanda. You can tell me
Isaiya if you feel like it's the right thing. I
feel like a Hutchinson as a guy who is going
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to the cookout. I think also has the vibrainium, and
I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
I'm thinking might be the first white dude from Wakanda,
but I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
I'm going with his favorite word, ahwesome.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
And the reason why I'm saying awesome because I have
been there before, not necessarily with a broken leg, but
I've had seven surgeries during my time playing in the
league and in college, and I know the mental fortitude
that you have to have in order to come back
from these injuries. You are trying to prove yourself wrong
more than you're trying to prove everybody else wrong. And
I know that that sensation that you get when you're
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out there running for the first time, or you start
seeing seeing little tidbits of what your former self used
to be. You get excited. You were overcome so much
with the injury. It was a traumatic injury, and now
you're working every single day just to get back to
who you were and hope that you can surpass that.
So I think it's awesome that he's back on the
field moving because I know that he's a later right
now in his heart.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You know what I see, and he's see destruction for
everyone else in the league. I see this guy running
and I feel like he is just going to get
after it and just destroy everyone in his path.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Next season, Justin Pugh straight off the couch. We're here
with Justin Pugh.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
This is the guy who played a long time in
the league, first round pick of the Giants. But that
clip we just saw of you was from twenty twenty three,
very very recent, and everybody got a laugh out of
it because they like when they change up your intros
and everything. But there might have been a little bit
more going on. And for those who remember that and
those who don't, tell us the story of Peugh, what
you were doing there.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
So I started my career with the New York Giants.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
First five years I talked about the business, went to
the Arizona Cardinals, and as my career was coming to
an end, I tore my ACL in week ten.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Of the season.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Before twenty twenty two, I was like, I need to
get back to New York. I want to get involved
in finance and real estate. What's a better place to
go than the New York Giants. So I had hatched
this scheme to get back on the New York Giants.
They're in Arizona playing the Cardinals. Their left guard gets
hurt and down the street from the facility, I go
work out for the Giants. They say, hey, Justin, we
want to bring you back on the team. And I said,
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I don't a couple of things. I'm not playing tackle.
I only want to play left guard. I want to
get a couple weeks to ramp up. As we're getting
ready to play in that first game, I resigned to
New York Giants. I'm doing my I'm doing internships every Tuesday,
and I'm like, we need you to play this weekend.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Justin.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Joe Shane gives me a call say hey, Justin, we
need you to play this week. I know you've been
here three days. We're playing the Buffalo Bills. You're gonna
play left guard. It's like riding a bike. Four plays
into the game, the left tackle gets hurt. He says, Justin,
I know you haven't played in eight years at left tackle.
I need you to go out there, and I need
you to block Von Miller so well and behold, I
didn't know I was going to go out to left
tackle and have to do that. But when we're arriving
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on the bus. We do our Sunday night intros. If
you're a player that just gets signed right at the
hotel before. And I wasn't coming from Syracuse, I wasn't
coming from any practice. I hadn't put pads on since
Terry my ACL a year previously. My first contact was
pregame against the defensive lineman, and I'm pretty sure I
got a little bit.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Of a buzz upstairs.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
So I said, straight off the couch, fitting lee, because
I literally was on a couch the week before, and
then I was starting on Sunday Night football. So everyone
out there, it's not that it's impossible for you to
go from sitting on the couch to starting on.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Sunday Night football. But it was all part of a
master plan. I love it.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Let me jump in here with the follow up, so
I hope this answer this is not dreadful. How did
it go against Vaughan when you were off the left tackle?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
It went well.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
Now I didn't know the You know, when you're on
the road, everything's on silent cadence, so everything's based off
the center's head.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Is Bob that takes timing.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
When you're at left tackle, you're looking in at the center,
and as soon as he goes to lift his head,
you set and that's how you know the play is coming. Now,
it was a little bit rough to start. You say,
straight off the couch, and then you have lit up
a sack. You have two false starts in a row.
Get out of your stead. Then I ended up we
almost came back and won that game with Tyrod Taylor. Yeah,
and the fans loved it after Hey, straight off the
couch and then you went out there and almost led
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us to victory. I actually ended up grading out as
our best offensive lineman that week. The next day, I'm
negot eating my contract with Joe Shane. He's like, I
never had to negotiate with a practice squad offensive lineman. Hey,
Jeffy a first ball, shout out different times for all
of us, shout out.
Speaker 8 (40:13):
To you, because that's almost impossible to do. So obviously
kudos on that, but it helped the people real quick
understand the difference between playing guard and play a left tackle.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
What's the island like twenty seconds.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
It's like playing defense against Alan Iverson. When you're out
there at tackle, you're going against the best defensive line
in the NFL. Guard is more like a car crash.
You're hitting those guys. You're in a phone boost, so
that's kind of the difference in space.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Wow, incredible, I love that.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Right.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Have to couch the GMFP too.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
By the way, he can take the cues. You said
twenty seconds, he did it in like fifteen.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I mean that's broadcast. Do camfree, I mean, make those
adjustments quick. We're back more GMFF for this.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Wow.
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Welcome to GMFP, Live in Los Angeles, Live in New
York City. It is Monday, April seventh. Sarah Walsh alongside
Isaiah standback.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
We've got Kyle Brant. We've got a very professional.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Former New York Giants first round draft pick in Justin Pugh. Kyle,
you were just talking about. Look at Justin next year.
Isaiah's rocking a Sesame.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Street T shirt.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
He look, I just came from a Kingsman's shoes, you know,
so you were in a movie to Kingsman. I've seen
you suited and booted over there.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It looks great, Isaiah.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
What episode is this for you? Isaiah?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
It's my first one, so I'm still getting all figured out.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Listen, Isaiah's done three thousand episodes. It's incredible. But you
look cleaned off. You to love everything about it.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Now, you made it. Now we're wondering. You've shown up
in a sweatshirt.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Tomorrow we'll leave the yours wondering. By the way, you
and Isaiah were teammates. Maybe not on the football field,
but you were teammates in a very prestigious broadcast boot camp.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Look at this, Look at a height difference. I don't know,
I don't know. I need to raise me up. Can
I stood something next time?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah? You're a tall guy.
Speaker 7 (01:18):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Yeah, I'm not a small human being. But he makes
me look more. Why they stick us in the back? Yeah?
You see that? How Dan dactly? Yeah? The quarterbacks?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Matt ties over there to the honey Badger.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
What was the biggest lesson you learned?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Obviously it was justin dressed for the job you want?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Would you learn?
Speaker 8 (01:34):
You know, I learned a lot about the industry. Hey,
and I'm sure you JP did as well. You know,
obviously this looks you know, I know, Kyle, you know,
individuals like you said, you guys make it look easy, but.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Being on TV takes a lot of work.
Speaker 8 (01:45):
And that's what's so great about the about the boot
camp that the NFL players are allowed to go. Do
you put in you hope that they choose you and
then you utilize the reps to go out there to try.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
To get in a position like this. But you guys
do an amazing job.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Well, we're happy to have you both here.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
We're also happy to have this morning our NFL Network
Insider in Rap Report and the Big News, shar Sanders
took center stage at Colorado's NFL Showcase. Give us the fallout, coaches, GMS,
what is the word on the street this morning?
Speaker 7 (02:11):
And that's what a pretty star set of affair the
Colorado Showcase.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Not Shador Sanders prota.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
There were several other players there showing off for NFL Scouts,
including Travis Hunter, a potential where I would say likely
top five pick into defensive drills, but did end up
running a route. So several of the teams who were
there also there to check him out see if he
would go two or three, four five maybe. But let's
focus in on Shador Sanders because of course he was
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the main event. He was the headline guy at this event.
So he threw I would say, about sixty or so
passes for NFL Scouts, all sorts of routes, flash the
deep ball, I would say, most notably.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Kind of did a thing.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
After talking to NFL Network about basically how everyone thinks
he can't throw the deep balls, we made sure to
show us, like right here, that he actually can throw
the depfall sounded like a really positive work out, just
a couple of ball to the ground, a couple drops
from receivers as well. And if you were a team
like say the Cleveland Browns, who were there with a
ton of people a lot of personnel, the New York
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Giants who had basically their entire coaches to have a
personnel department there you were a team that wanted to
be in the store Sanders business at two or three
or wherever you draft in the top ten, there was
plenty there that you probably liked. Another interesting note after
this was the Tennessee Titans planned to show up, you know,
kind of sparsely at this event and then workout Shador
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Sanders a little later in the week privately work out
Travis Hunter as well. Shortly after that workout, the Titans
breast met with Chador ended up canceling that workout, making
one believe that at least they are closing in on
the decision about what to do with the number one
over pick. I know a lot of people believed that
it ended up being cam were there no firm and
final word from the Titans, but canceling the Chador Standers
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workout that was set for this week at least an
intriguing move by Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And one that will be picked apart and dissected and
what is it mean?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
And thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So there is all of those things, and you know
how it goes when we get closer to the draft, right,
there's all the secrecy and these chess moves. Isaiah, what
is your biggest takeaway from the Colorado Showcase?
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Yeah, so, first of all, I'm going to be on
record to say that, like, I'm not a huge fan
of showcases, just because, especially from a quarterback position, there's
not a lot to be told in a QB showcase.
You have your receivers, you have your tight end, you're
running backs, and its routes on air. This is what
you do in warm ups, this is what you do
with gazillion times in the off season. So I believe
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that these scouts are going there just for affirmation. They
want to see the footwork in person. They want to
see the velocity of the ball, they want to see
the ball location. These are all things that they've seen
on film, but they may not have seen with their
own eyes in person. You have to remember there's entire
scouting departments that these teams have for the first time,
these coaches and decision makers are going to have opportunity
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to go see this, but they're not seeing them versus
DB's the seeing.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
The pass rush.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
They're not seeing these guys have to do any adjust
This is as simple as is going to get for
these quarterbacks. So I don't have huge takeaways, but some
of these gms may in regards to how the Titans
have going went ahead and counseled the workout.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
It leaves me curious to say, what is it that
they saw or did.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
Not see that seemingly leads them to believe that they
have their decision made. I'm not sure what the difference
was going to be between a cam Ward and a
Shador Sanders. When I look at the highlights from that workout,
all I can see is the ball wasn't as tight
as you wanted it to be. Cam Ward has a
little bit more velocity on the ball. They knew that
you're not going to see true footwork in this in
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a session because there's no pass rush. So I don't
know what they're looking for out of these quarterbacks because
this is as easy as a platform is going to get.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I hear what you're saying, Isaiah, it's a strong take
I thought this pro day was revelatory. I think my
huge takeaway is I don't think he can draft shador
Sanders because he pats the football. I think he'll be
undrafted all through seven roundsers no possible you could draft.
Bring up the videotape guy's irreparable damage to Shadora Sanders's
reputation as a football player as a human being. Just
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watched right before he throws, if we can see it,
he does a little tap one sixteenth of a second,
he pats the ball, and I think you have to
take him off the board.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Not the first round.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Not the first He's gonna free fall and end up
going into a different line of work because it's not
just me saying that.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
It's not a straw man.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Go ahead and go to the social media component. We
had high visible players Andre Cisco now with the Jets, boy,
better stop patting the ball. We're breaking on that early, okay.
And then Darius Slayton on the Giants is trying to
defend them. But Michael Parsons comes in. You realize that
pat on the ball could be difference between a sacker
throw away completion. Again, I don't think you draft Schendor
Sanders because I did the research. Guys, there has never
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been an NFL quarterback who pats the ball who's had
any success in the league.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I even have videotape. Bring up the videotape.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
All the guys who pat the ball like that guy
never amounted to anything.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Give me more. It's not just a one off.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Matthew Staff pat right before he throws, has never done
squat in the league, never made any money. This guy
doesn't never bright future. Look at the pack before the
giant deep ball again. You can't draft your door, Josh Allen,
What do you want? MVP pat before he throws the ball?
Brady again, he actually played for a team called the Pats,
and he's patting Rogers. Watch Pat get out of here.
(07:26):
I'm gonna go back down to planet Earth. Now, you
knew that after Shador's workout, showcase, spectacle, whatever circus, whatever
he wanted to call it, they were going to be takes,
and they were going to be daggers, and they were
going to be critics. Even if someone didn't have any criticism,
they were gonna make it up just to resonate and
just to be heard. And that's going to be the
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shadure story at the draft, and when he starts Week one,
whatever it may be, there's gonna be criticism just for
criticism's sake. But standing there watching him patting the ball
before he throws and saying this is going to be
a big problem and he's going to break the rookie
exceptions record is stupid. It's doing it just for doing it.
Look at what I just showed. You don't do it.
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If you have honest criticism, then make it. But if
you're doing it just to do it, stop because you
know who else pats the ball. Cam Ward pats the
ball and I watched his Pro day and none of
you guys said squat. You're saying it because his last
name is Sanders, because who his father is, because you
know it'll resonate.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
He pats the.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Ball just like Josh Allen does, just like Tom Brady does,
and on and on and on. If you want to
criticize anything about his attitude or his arm strength, fine,
but the patting the ball thing is stupid. And I
hope you don't talk about it in this show from
this day forward, and I know you'll talk about on
the other shows. Good luck, Leave the guy along unless
you have something honest to say.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
That's my take.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Well, let's think about what's going on on the football
field when this is happening. Defensive backs are turning their
running down field. You have d lineman in your face.
You have six foot five rock Perty just came out
and said he doesn't see forty percent of his receivers
down the field.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Do we really think people are honing.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
In on the pat What I loved about your doors
pro day is we got to see the intangibles. You
got to see him in the huddle, breaking down the guys.
That is what a quarterback's all about. I don't need
to see him throwing a deep ball with no Michael
Parsons breathing down his neck. I want to see him
controlling the huddle. I want to see him being a
leader of men. After this Pro day, he has a
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chance to talk with the reporters, to talk with some
of the coaches, to actually work with the young man
and get to know him other than the persona that's
out there in media. Shador Sanders is ready for the spotlight.
Think about the pressure that this young man has been
playing under since he was eight nine years old. With
that Sanders on your back playing quarterback, He's had to
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overcome an immense amount of pressure. The one thing that
I want to see from Shador, which we don't get
to see.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
In the pro day, is the sacks.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
He's taken a lot of sacks throughout his time. I'd
rather the completion percentage. And I heard this from Jay Gruden.
I thought this was brilliant. Seventy four percent completion. I'd
almost rather see you at seventy sixty eight, but less sacks,
less getting behind the change on first and second down.
Speaking from an offensive lineman, that is the one thing
that I think your door.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Has to get figured out.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
But he showed the deep ball, he showed the intangibles,
and he showed what's gonna make him a first round pick.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I like it. I like everything about that. JAF.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
Can we go it just a little bit deeper? Col
because I know you say you don't want to talk
about this no more.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Let's go ahead and talk about it all right, Listen.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
I may have played a little bit of quarterback on
my day, I actually got to play a quarterback for
my entire collegiate career.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I'm not that dark, am I that door? Okay? Let's
go into the light real quick. All right.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
So I played quarterback all throughout college, and I backed
up Tom Brady for the New England Patriers for about
ero point two seconds. Okay, but I'm gonna talk about
this pat thing a little bit. What tends to happen
for quarterbacks? Okay, yes, it is a crutch. All right,
let me go ahead and back up at this light.
I'm back into the.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Light, all right. So, hey, that's what happened is?
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Hey, is you like to pat the ball because it's
a security thing. When you get the ball from the center,
you get both hands on the rock.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
You are talking about both hands.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Being on the ball because you don't want to get
strip sacked.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And right before you go ahead and let the.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Ball go, you tend to separate your hands, and quarterbacks
naturally have this little crutch, right. It's like a little
tick where you literally pack the ball right before you
release the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Now, why is this such a conversation? Right?
Speaker 8 (11:08):
This is a conversation because a lot of defensive backs
like to use this as an indicator.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
You just say, we're gonna break all over that.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Maybe, but most of the time the guys do not
get the break that quickly. When you're dropping back, you
get a hand on the right real quick and you.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Let the ball go.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
Defensive Backs like the backpedal, back pedal, backpedal, and if
it's a slow patter, if a quarterback has a slow,
long release, then all of a sudden, it's a problem
because it's letting me know that you're now releasing the ball,
so before the receiver can break, I now see your
hands separate, and now I can break on the ball,
and that quarter second of a pat.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Gives me the hands up that I need to go
ahead and make a play on the ball.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
But in reality, how many defensive backs are breaking on
the ball and making interceptions because a quarterback is padding.
It's not a reality. Trust me, I'll played the position.
You just showed highlights of the greatest ones to do
it go ahead and showing examples of how those guys
past the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
It's not a thing.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
It's something that you want to do away with as
a quarterback because it does give them a little bit
of a heads up, but it's not going to make
the difference. And when you look at their stats, shoulder
Sanders is not a turnover magnet.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
So you could talk about padding the ball all day long.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
He has a better completion percentage, he has a better
turnover ratio, and I believe that he's the better quarterback
in this draft. And to your point, Kyle, the hate,
as David Chapelle would say, is coming along all day
long in regards to the Sanders name.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, and he can get rid of the padding or
he cannot or he cannot get.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Rid of it, and just play with it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Like all the guys and many more I showed who
have done it for years. They want you to believe
that it is like a poker tell like someone who
is about to double down or bluff, and they scratch
their eye every time.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
And you know it's not that easy.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And I know that some of the social media discussion
amongst players next players around the league was all right, well,
if he does that, and you think it's gonna be
so easy, then all these DB's better have eight plus
interceptions this year, get him twice every time they play him.
And I know our old friend Jason mccordy was kind
of laughing about that, a guy who played dB for years. Listen,
the knives were out, are always going to be out.
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It's going to be the legacy of this guy. Whatever
he does, good or bad, there's going to be something
to pick at, just for picking AT's sake. I thought
he threw really well. And if he had such a
bad tell that everybody, every dB in the field knows
where the ball is going, then why, like Justin said,
is his completion percent at so high? Why did he
not lead the nation in interceptions? Because he's just throw
telling you where he's going to throw the ball. It's dumb,
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it's nonsense. I really think it's hot air, and it
takes the focus away from how we really performed, which
is very well.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
This will surprise no one, But we are not done
talking about Deon Sanders and Shudur Sanders on this show.
We got more to come. It is draft season. That
means the path to the Draft is back at. Experts
are going to take you inside the film room to
show you which prospects are rising to the top of
draft boards and are ready to transform into NFL stars.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
From evaluations to.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Draft needs for all thirty two teams, We've got you covered.
It's Path to the Draft, presented by Harbor Frates weeknight,
six Eastern on NFL Network and streaming on NFL Plus.
Coming up though, we've got video a Cooper Cup and
his former Rams teammate that's going to get you in
your feelings. We're going to break out the white mords
and tell you how we feel about it.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Plus, Aaron Rodgers still does not have a team there
he is in a Jets logo. We know he will
not play for the Jets. But right after this rap
sheet from our news departments is going to give the
very very latest.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
It might not be the report that you expected.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
To be or want it to be, but trust me,
it's coming right after this Good Morning Football on a Monday.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
We are cruising.
Speaker 10 (14:32):
Let's go Good morn Football.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We want to bring in wrapping forward, our NFL network
insider back into the conversation and full disclosure. We're on
this production call very early this morning talking about Aaron
Rodgers and we were like, you know what, we just
need to get Ian back.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
What is going on? What is taking so long?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What is the latest Aaron Rodgers Ian rapaport go.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
There has been a lot of smoke about this decision. Obviously,
we just came from the NFL owners meetings in Palm
Beach and we had several Steelers people, including Art Rooney himself,
talk about the positive momentum toward a deal between the
Steelers and Aaron Rodgers, basically saying that he believed it
was going in the right direction. He wanted a decision
sooner rather than later. He's not impatient, but eventually he
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will be. Mike Tomlin, Omar Kahn all sort of said
the same thing. They would love him, they would welcome him,
they'd want him. They haven't put a deadline on it yet,
and they're waiting.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
That's really where we are.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
The Minnesota Vikings were very clear that Aaron Rodgers as
of right now is non an option for them.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
They're moving full.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Speed ahead with JJ McCarthy. There are no other spots.
So if Aaron Rodgers is going to play football in
twenty twenty five, it is going to be for the
Pittsburgh Steelers. Would not be surprised if there was announcement
from him over the next couple weeks. It has to
be theoretically before the draft, because if the Steelers don't
get an answer by April, they will likely draft a quarterback.
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In fact, they may draft a quarterback anyway. So the
update is really that there's no update, it's right where
we thought. It's a lot of positive momentum with Aaron
Rodgers and the Steelers. It seems like that's the most
likely place by far. He just hasn't come out and
said it yet. Meanwhile, the specter of retirement, possible retirement
doesn't seem likely, but at least would be considered an
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option until he makes a decision.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
So that's where we are.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, and you've done this for years for people waking
up on Monday morning who are rolling their eyes at
the lack of the developments in this Can you pull
back the curtain a little bit in what you do?
What it's like to cover the story of Rogers versus
other players, Rogers who has a unique inner circle or
doesn't have one at all?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Like, what is the challenge and what.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Is the difference between Rogers becoming announcement versus any other
player any other situation.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
Well, I think, Kyle, with Aaron Rodgers, you never quite know.
Like there's plenty of things that I think I know,
plenty of things I'll hear from sources close to the situation,
people who claim that I know or hey, you know,
Aaron Rodgers is definitely leaning here or he's going to
make a decision here. I mean there are people reporting
that he was going to make a decision Wednesday of
free agency.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Well that did not happen.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
I think one thing you have to be careful of
is assuming you know what's in his mind. And I
would say the same thing with Rogers as he used
to say with Bill Belichick, somewhat similar situation. People who
claim to know what they are thinking should really question
that source. Not a lot of people they talk to.
People they do talk to don't necessarily talk to people
like me, and if they do, they want to make
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sure that what they say doesn't get reported.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
So really, what you have to do is lean on facts.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Facts, which is Aaron Rodgers visited the Steelers. Facts which
is the Steelers have come out and said that was
a very positive visit. My sources said that as a
positive visit as well.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Facts. Aaron Rodgers now.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Chooses the Steelers or chooses to retire, lean on the
real things rather than the gossip, because too often the gossip's.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Going to be wrong.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
And thank you for that perspective.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Well, just yeah, we'll just continue to wait until we
hear from Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
And thanks so much. Moving over to the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Now, a couple items related to those Cowboys. First, Dallas
released backup quarterback of Tree Lance Lance signed by the Chargers,
and then the Cowboys traded for Joe Milton to be
dacked back that Milton was previously with the Patriots, and
that leads us into our second topic, the Cowboys twenty
twenty five off season. Isaiah, We're going to start with you.
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You're in Dallas. Should we be concerned you work for
the team?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
No pressure?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah, no, there's no concern. And I know that a
lot of people obviously the.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
Cowboys, they're the star, They're you know, as Kyle would
say at times, America's team. But the reality is, these
guys have made some very strategic moves. Now is it
the big splash moves that everybody is looking for? Is
it the big headline moves that everybody's looking for?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
The answer is no.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
But I would like to bring up a graphic and
show the work that is being done by the new
head coach, Brian Schoanheimer. See you most under the radar
additions that the Cowboys have made. There has been a
point emphasis of controlling the line of scrimmage in Dallas,
And this is who Brian schott Himer has hired. He
went out and got Cardinals old line coach Clayton Adams
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to be his offensive coordinator. Clayton Adams was regarded and
is regarded as one of, if not the best of
offensive line coach in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
What else did they do?
Speaker 8 (19:27):
They went out and hired the offensive line coach Connor Riley,
who happens to be considered to be the best offensive
line coach in college football.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
There's an emphasis in the trenches. Else, what else did
they do?
Speaker 8 (19:38):
They went to the defensive side of the ball and
they hired Aaron Whitecotten, who is Aaron Whitecott. Well, he
is just happened to be the best defensive.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Line coach in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
So they got the best offensive line coach, they got
the best defensive line offensive line coach, and they got
the best office line coach out of college. These guys
are putting a point of emphasis.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
In the trenches. I know, JP, you can appreciate that
when you.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Talk about Brydon shot Himer, everybody he's not the big
headline coach that everybody was looking for, but sometimes they
just have to do his job. And that is to
be a manager of men. You don't have to be
the do it all coach. You don't have to be
the guy that simply is regarded as a as a
Bill Belichick or Mike Tomler, any of these big, big,
high high arching coaches. If you put guys in place
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to do what they do best, then you can have
some success. And that has been the focus of the
Dallas Cowboys, and they're building it from the big fellas
up front. And it might be a little bit of
a tip of the hat as to what they may
be planning to do in this year's draft.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Isaiah, I'm a bit nervous for your Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Now.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Look, I know you're with the team every offseason. It
seems like the Cowboys do this over and over again
and say, hey, we're.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
The Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
You should want you should want to be our coach,
you should want to come play for us, you should
want to take a pay cut. And every single year
we play poker with our players. We pay Dak Prescott
sixty million dollars a year. We're paying CD at the
top of the market. We claim we don't know who
Michael Parson's agent is and We're going to end up
paying him the highest defensive paid player in the league. Now,
I'm looking at the trenches right now, and I'm still
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wondering did we address those right? We have some young
talent that we drafted. We think we have some guys
up front, but we have to continue to prove that
day in and day out. The Dallas Cowboys, Yes, you
have Dak, you have CD, you have Micah, but after that,
you're still there's still some question marks. You look at
Mazi Smith OsO A Digizua is a great player. Love
that they paid him and got that deal done. But
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every time I turn on the TV or I hear
something going on. I was down at owner meetings and
seeing the hoopla that comes out of Dallas. There is
one hundred percent concern when you look at the Dallas
Cowboys because I still see a team that finished the
year stronger than many people thought. They're getting Dak Prescott back,
but I'm not having all the answers. You look at
the NFC East, you look at what the commanders have done.
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You're looking at what the Philadelphia Eagles and who they are. Obviously,
the New York Giants are bringing up the rear and
they have a lot to prove. But I'm still a
little nervous and big d Isaiah.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
You're the man.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I want everyone to understand at home that Isaiah literally
works for the Cowboys and ass point blank are you concerned?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
And it'd be like.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Someone asking me, like, has the twenty twenty five NFL
media group offseason given you a reason for concern? Well,
we have the departure of Peter Schrager, Like break that down. No, no, no,
I think we're fine because we have this, this, and this,
Like it's not the most easy thing to answer, and
I think you're doing God's work going and talking about
the trenches and the coaches and everything.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
It's a really, really strange time for the Cowboys. I'm
not gonna say good or bad. It's strange because there
is very little buzz and there is very little sizzle
and in the most unusual circumstances. Listen, it's not just Philadelphia.
Washington is a bright, shiny object who has been nothing
for the last twenty years. Now they're one of the
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coolest teams in the league. And the Giants seem fun
and they're gonna draft someone really high and they got
Jamis and Russell.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Like, there is so little buzz.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
So even when the team, when the Cowboys are the
Cowboys for all their faults, they still have buzz. And
it's still Jerry surrounded by microphones and you're hanging on
every word. Are you right now? Like it's if Mike
and Mike get paid, he should get paid. They're gonna
they have this like this twelve draft pick and if
no one knows who they're gonna take. Even in a
lot of the draft breakdowns, which we do twenty four
to seven, there's not a lot of Cowboys conversation and
(23:17):
Cowboys takes. So we're at a place right now where
what we should be to the headline of their offseason,
by far, should be that Mike McCarthy was let go
and they have a new Dallas head Cowboys head coach.
And there was a time when the Cowboys had a
new coach was oh my god, this is leading every
show in every segment and we're like yeah, I mean,
no one's that fired up about it.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
So I'm not concerned. I'm not excited.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm a little bit bored, and I'm just waiting for
this jolt of electricity.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
It didn't come in free agency.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
It's not coming from a Mica contract.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Maybe it comes from the draft.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I want them to clear the table on draft night,
trade up, go from twelve to eight, do something really bold.
I'm like, the Cowboys mean business. They're not just gonna
hand this season to the Eagles and the Commanders.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I'm a little bit bored.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
And all this time in my entire life, I can
remember thinking the Cowboys were great. I can remember thinking
the Cowboys were bad. I can't ever really remember thinking
the Cowboys were boring.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
And they are right now, you know what.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
I respect that take. But in the words of Nagade's butler,
the Cowboys are being vinne vetty sneaky right now, vene
vetty sneaky.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
And the reason why and.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
The reason why I say that is because in this league,
where we're so used to seeing the headlines that we
want to see rap sheet come on there and talk
about who just got signed, it gets forgotten and it
gets left behind this.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Thing called development.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
There's this thing called development that still has to take place.
Coaches still have a very influential role in this league,
and everybody wants the player that has already made it
he's already that guy. He's already the star that everybody wants.
When in reality, when you look at most teams' rosters,
they might draft somebody in the first round, they might.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Draft somebody in the seventh ground.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
Regardless of where they were drafted, there still has to
be coaching and progression and development that has to take place.
So when you look at the trenches, you look at
the officsive line. Dallas has two first round picks on
the offensive line that have to continue to get developed.
One of them is all pro already, one of them
didn't do anything last year. And Tyler guy, he has
to figure out life. That's why they brought in some
help there. I still think that obviously Zach Martin left
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a huge gaping hole on the offensive line, but they
have a couple of guys that most.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
People would know about.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
There are some brawlers in there jp that you could appreciate,
that have the gut and the will and the gall
that just needs some coaching and development. On the defense
side of the ball, Mozzie Smith, he's a first round pick,
hasn't come along. What do they do They get white
guy to go out there and help him, right, So,
this development piece is there. The Cowboys have always been competitive.
That is not me just because I worked for them.
That is the reality. They've always been competitive. The issue
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has always been they haven't got over the hunk.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
So what's gonna take to get over the hunk?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Quarterback Sheear Sanders showed off his accuracy and his deep
ball ability during Colorado's showcase on Friday. Was it enough
to change the minds of some critics? Our guy Steve
Weisch and Brian Baldinger sat down with Shador to talk
about his performance.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Shuart, what about this because you didn't test, you didn't
you know, throw at at the combine or anything like this?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Did you put any added pressure on yourself to come
out here and say and do that.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
No, there's no pressure. It's pressure when I wake up
in the morning, you know. So there's no added pressure
anywhere in my life, I'll say at all.
Speaker 12 (26:20):
I thought the script had a lot of variety to it,
including the final two minute drill what you want, a
lot of games on Baylor. I'm just thinking some of
the games going back, like was that part of the process, Like, Okay,
it's crunch time, let's go down and finish this thing.
Speaker 11 (26:33):
Yeah, because that's the most important part of football.
Speaker 9 (26:36):
And I know that's where I'm the.
Speaker 11 (26:38):
Best, you know, in in the class and the best
in the country at is in a two minute so
you know that's that's that's where my X factor comes
out in.
Speaker 12 (26:46):
It's almost a pretty football. When you go deep, you
do it like is that a natural thing? The spirals tighter,
the accuracy is it's right to the fingers. Like if
you always thrown a deep ball like that, did you
need to learn that?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Nah?
Speaker 9 (27:00):
I heard I can't throw to the ball, so that ball,
that's what I hear.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
But that I'm gonna break that out. Yeah, it down.
Speaker 11 (27:09):
I don't know where they get that from, you know.
So every I understand different thrones, and I understand what
has to be done. Like I don't throw one balls
every time if it's unnecessary. Why I don't want to
make it hard on my receivers to catch the ball.
I understand, you know, with the good the strengths, their weaknesses,
and I'm not gonna make it tough on them. That's
my whole job.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
What do you say people say you can't throw the
deep ball. As we're going through this process, do you
pay attention.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
I just know that's the devil trying to get at me.
Speaker 11 (27:35):
Man. You know, I know I'm one of Guy's favorites,
so I'm not really tripping on.
Speaker 12 (27:40):
We saw we saw under center today, nigga. You obviously
Pat Shermer. You guys had your inside receivers or outside receivers.
You're playing with tempo. That's probably going to change a
great deal at the NFL level. You wanted to show
some of that, the play action running back in the
backfield and a little bit of movement as well.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
You gotta understand my basis though.
Speaker 11 (27:57):
My dad was my coach in uh since I was
six seven, So that's what that's where I learned. I
learned under center first. I didn't learn shotgun until you know.
It took a little time, but that's where you know,
that's where having great parents, you know, my mom and
dad showing you different parts of life, doing different things
with you. So whenever you get older, it's second nature.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Let's Shudur Sanders there.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
When we come back Cooper Cup now in Seattle after
eight seasons with the Rams, We're going to show you
an emotional, very cool goodbye that'll get you in your Feelings.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Next, Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Good morning everyone, it is time to get emotional. We
call this segment All the Feels. We're going to show
you some video that tugs at the heart strings, and
then we're going to pull out the whiteboards and describe
what we're feeling in one word. We're gonna start with
Cooper Cup and a short piece that shows his last
workout with the Rams as he says goodbye to his
teammates for the final time.
Speaker 13 (29:05):
It doesn't, necessarily, I guess, feel real, but it's been
like an absolute blessing in my life to be able
to watch him work, and to be able to be
by his side, and to be able to work with
him and compete with him, and then also to hear
all of the advice that he's given and the cues
that he has in the game of football, and the
understanding he has of how to be a leader in
the locker room, how to be a professional, how to
(29:27):
be a father, how to be a great teammate, and
how to be one of the best players in the
National Football League. It's been the perfect combination of everything.
And I know that this won't be the end of
our relationship, but we will be able to continue to
grow and it'll be exciting to see him do his
thing out there.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Okay, guys, wipe the tears away.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
What is the one word that describes your feelings on
Cooper Cup's departure?
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Justin kick this thing up.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
I know we're trying to be emotional, but I'm going business.
This is a business. This is the NFL. I had
a chance to talk to Sean McVay down at owners
meetings and he said, look, I came in with Cooper
Coup twenty seventeen, both young guys starting out in this business.
He wins a triple crown, he wins the Super Bowl.
Every dog will have his day and here's time for
him to move on. This is a business. I don't
(30:13):
care how much you love someone. Everyone wants to get
paid for going out there and playing football. And unfortunately
we saw Pooka there. Pokah's playing the exact same position
as Cooper Cup. They go out get DeVonta Adams. It's
the nature of trying to win Super Bowls and Sean
McVay will put no one in front of that. And
that's why this is a business. And it's just a
reminder follow the money. It tells the story.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
Yeah, you might be following the money, but I'm go ahead,
go ahead and follow the respect. The fact that they
are holding this man in such high regard, to me
is just the ultimate tip of the hat, the ultimate
show respect. This is not how you transition from one
team to the next.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
When you watch that video, all you see.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Is respect from coaches to former players at Whitworth being there,
to the Obficely, the quarterback, to the Pookin Nakua, the
guy who is ultimately the reason why he's moving along
to another team because Pokin Nakua is the next man up.
They've shown so much respect to Cooper cup In and
what he's done for this organization, how he's built up
(31:10):
that position. I know coach Yards, the receivers coaches is
in the fields right now as well, because he's done
a heck of a job with that unit. But just
huge respect to how they're allowing him to go out,
allowing him to still work out with the team and
knowing that he's just going home to wrap up his career.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, I have to say, watching the video, it's very
charming to me that they got the boys together for
one last bro session and one last lift and just
to hug it out like it's very relatable on a
small scale, like one last poker game before you know
you're never going to be the same friends again or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
So I mean, just have a legend like that.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Cooper Cup is an all time RAM and he's an
all time RAMS receiver for an organization that has had
some incredible wide receivers. Listen, we cannot overlook the idea
of what he did in the twenty twenty one season.
He had one hundred and forty five catchuds. It's unbelievable,
sixteen touchdowns, nineteen hundred plus yards. And it's not just
(32:10):
that he's a good player. It's like Cooper Cup represents something.
Cooper Cup is for every kid out there who thinks
they can make the NFL and maybe they're not Calvin
Johnson physically.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
This is a.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Third round pick out of Eastern Washington. It says something
about dreams, that says something about the NFL draft that
you pay attention to those third round picks because they
could end up being legends.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
They could end up being Hall of famers.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That third round pick out of Eastern Washington was eating
secondaries alive. Whenever he felt like it. He was an
unstoppable player. And business is business, and he's got to leave,
and I get that, But I just an all time RAM,
an all time twenty first century wide receiver, just a
fantastic player who gives a lot of kids dreams and
(32:56):
a lot of players things to aim for.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
So I miss him. I think that's an absolute legend.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I hope he goes and has one hundred catches for
the Seahawks this year.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
But he's an all time RAM and I miss him already.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I'm going watching the video.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I'm going bittersweet with the little crying emoji. When you
talk to these guys, almost any player, any player, when
you ask them when they're done playing, what they're going
to miss the most. I've never heard anyone say the
game on Sunday. Everyone always says the time I spent
in the locker room. I swear to God, Like right,
it feels like across the board, guys always say what
I'm going to miss the most is being with the
(33:26):
guys in the locker room because and you know that
once you trade you it's not the same, right, Like
you've got different pockets of friends in different cities.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
And teams.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
But when you have something special the way he did,
it won't be the same in that way. And yes
he will suit up on Sundays, and yes he will
still play, and yes he can still find success in
all those things, but that group that you saw there,
that part will not be the same. And I think
as I was watching that video, that was what was
going through my mind. Is that you constantly hear guys
say and it's not even like what's.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Your most favorite one memory?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Someone will say the super Bowl, or someone might say
this game where I broke this record.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
But when you say what are you going to miss
the most.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
About the game, guys always say that it's the time
spent with those guys in the locker room. So that's
what I was thinking as I was watching that video.
And you don't see that. I don't think I've ever
seen that before where they put out like this video
where you guys get one last workout, and so justin
I was really surprised, cutthroat right out of the gate
on that one. Just business like, Hey, it's what the
suit says.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I mean, we should have known the business.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
This happened to me when I left the New York giants.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
You think you're going to go somewhere, you're on scholarship
in college, you get drafted somewhere, and then the business
of football kicks in. The salary cat takes over and
they're like, hey, you value yourself here and this is
where the team values you. So for me, I think
if we can get down to the baseline of the
money tells the story, It's like, let's get over our.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Feelings, let's go play football.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
He's gonna have two times each year to go prove
the rams direct and he probably will.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Segments about emotion, maybe we don't do those when Justin's
on set with us.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
No problem.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
The Lions Aiden Hutchinson broke his leg during Detroit's Week
six matchup with the Cowboys, ending the star season prematurely.
Hutchinson posted some video of the progress he has made
on Instagram recently as a source of motivation for the
upcoming season. You see him running there, what is one
word that described your feelings? Scene Hutchinson running Justin for redemption?
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Let's go, Well, am I gonna get emotional here? Not
too emotional? He is moving. To see a big man
moving at that speed. If you listen to the audio.
You hear him trucking and getting after it. He's working
out with Brett Fisher, one of the best pts in football,
had him in Arizona, had his own facility.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Hutchinson was trying to.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Make a comeback for when he came back for the
Super Bowl. He is going to be rare to go. Yeah,
you can hear him right there. It's like when you
watch Serena play tennis. You can like hear the violence.
He's coming back with vengeance. He's going to have a
time to get after it. He had led the league
and tackles for losses and sacks before he went down.
Excited to see him get back out there.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I got I'm going to go for this one. If
you know, you know, I got vibranium. Like that guy
is made of something different. I know we saw him
break and it was absolutely just crushing to watch as
a fan. But the physicality of him running and on
that repaired and everything he's gonna do this year. I
have vibranium. It comes from Wakanda. You can tell me
Isaiya if you feel like it's the right thing. I
feel like a Hutchinson as a guy who is going
(36:13):
to the cookout. I think also has the vibrainium, and
I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
I'm thinking might be the first white dude from Wakanda,
but I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
I'm going with his favorite word, ahwesome.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
And the reason why I'm saying awesome because I have
been there before, not necessarily with a broken leg, but
I've had seven surgeries during my time playing in the
league and in college, and I know the mental fortitude
that you have to have in order to come back
from these injuries. You are trying to prove yourself wrong
more than you're trying to prove everybody else wrong. And
I know that that sensation that you get when you're
(36:46):
out there running for the first time, or you start
seeing seeing little tidbits of what your former self used
to be. You get excited. You were overcome so much
with the injury. It was a traumatic injury, and now
you're working every single day just to get back to
who you were and hope that you can surpass that.
So I think it's awesome that he's back on the
field moving because I know that he's a later right
now in his heart.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You know what I see, and he's see destruction for
everyone else in the league. I see this guy running
and I feel like he is just going to get
after it and just destroy everyone in his path.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Next season, Justin Pugh straight off the couch. We're here
with Justin Pugh.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
This is the guy who played a long time in
the league, first round pick of the Giants. But that
clip we just saw of you was from twenty twenty three,
very very recent, and everybody got a laugh out of
it because they like when they change up your intros
and everything. But there might have been a little bit
more going on. And for those who remember that and
those who don't, tell us the story of Peugh, what
you were doing there.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
So I started my career with the New York Giants.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
First five years I talked about the business, went to
the Arizona Cardinals, and as my career was coming to
an end, I tore my ACL in week ten.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Of the season.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Before twenty twenty two, I was like, I need to
get back to New York. I want to get involved
in finance and real estate. What's a better place to
go than the New York Giants. So I had hatched
this scheme to get back on the New York Giants.
They're in Arizona playing the Cardinals. Their left guard gets
hurt and down the street from the facility, I go
work out for the Giants. They say, hey, Justin, we
want to bring you back on the team. And I said,
(38:10):
I don't a couple of things. I'm not playing tackle.
I only want to play left guard. I want to
get a couple weeks to ramp up. As we're getting
ready to play in that first game, I resigned to
New York Giants. I'm doing my I'm doing internships every Tuesday,
and I'm like, we need you to play this weekend.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Justin.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Joe Shane gives me a call say hey, Justin, we
need you to play this week. I know you've been
here three days. We're playing the Buffalo Bills. You're gonna
play left guard. It's like riding a bike. Four plays
into the game, the left tackle gets hurt. He says, Justin,
I know you haven't played in eight years at left tackle.
I need you to go out there, and I need
you to block Von Miller so well and behold, I
didn't know I was going to go out to left
tackle and have to do that. But when we're arriving
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on the bus. We do our Sunday night intros. If
you're a player that just gets signed right at the
hotel before. And I wasn't coming from Syracuse, I wasn't
coming from any practice. I hadn't put pads on since
Terry my ACL a year previously. My first contact was
pregame against the defensive lineman, and I'm pretty sure I
got a little bit.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Of a buzz upstairs.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
So I said, straight off the couch, fitting lee, because
I literally was on a couch the week before, and
then I was starting on Sunday Night football. So everyone
out there, it's not that it's impossible for you to
go from sitting on the couch to starting on.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Sunday Night football. But it was all part of a
master plan. I love it.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Let me jump in here with the follow up, so
I hope this answer this is not dreadful. How did
it go against Vaughan when you were off the left tackle?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
It went well.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
Now I didn't know the You know, when you're on
the road, everything's on silent cadence, so everything's based off
the center's head.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Is Bob that takes timing.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
When you're at left tackle, you're looking in at the center,
and as soon as he goes to lift his head,
you set and that's how you know the play is coming. Now,
it was a little bit rough to start. You say,
straight off the couch, and then you have lit up
a sack. You have two false starts in a row.
Get out of your stead. Then I ended up we
almost came back and won that game with Tyrod Taylor. Yeah,
and the fans loved it after Hey, straight off the
couch and then you went out there and almost led
(39:58):
us to victory. I actually ended up grading out as
our best offensive lineman that week. The next day, I'm
negot eating my contract with Joe Shane. He's like, I
never had to negotiate with a practice squad offensive lineman. Hey,
Jeffy a first ball, shout out different times for all
of us, shout out.
Speaker 8 (40:13):
To you, because that's almost impossible to do. So obviously
kudos on that, but it helped the people real quick
understand the difference between playing guard and play a left tackle.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
What's the island like twenty seconds.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
It's like playing defense against Alan Iverson. When you're out
there at tackle, you're going against the best defensive line
in the NFL. Guard is more like a car crash.
You're hitting those guys. You're in a phone boost, so
that's kind of the difference in space.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Wow, incredible, I love that.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Right.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Have to couch the GMFP too.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
By the way, he can take the cues. You said
twenty seconds, he did it in like fifteen.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I mean that's broadcast. Do camfree, I mean, make those
adjustments quick. We're back more GMFF for this.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Wow.
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