April 19, 2025 • 36 mins
The Saturday Edition of the Good Morning Football Podcast has the Dolphins possibly parting ways with Jalen Ramsey. Is Dak Prescott still a top 10 QB in the NFL? Terron Armstead talks about retiring and his plans for the future. Plus, Jaxson Dart talks about visiting teams and preparing for the NFL Draft!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football in Miami.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Dolphins reportedly because and when our NFL network inside are
Ian Rappaport and Toalm tellisera tweet something gotta pay attention
the Dolphins and seven time Pro Bowl cornerback reportedly Jalen Ramsey,
they have mutually agreed to explore trade options moving forward.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Now, this would not.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Be a surprise if you see Jalen Ramsey playing on
someone else's defense in twenty twenty five. This a lot
has to do with the fact that he's doing twenty
five million dollars guaranteed next season. And Jalen Ramsey, you know,
has been an excellent cornerback in his career, but he's
played for a several different teams, several different defenses and coordinators.
So when you look at the Dolphins stillman logan, I'll
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start with you, perhaps the direction this team is going in,
but also the Jalen Ramsey direction as well.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
What do you make of this current situation?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, I think of the first word that comes to mind,
a word it's so overplayed in the NFL and pro football,
is culture or lack thereof like, what is Miami's culture?
And the thing is they don't have one, you know,
And I know I was taught earlier in my career
that cultures who you are when you're losing, not when
you're winning, not when you're going fast, not when you're
scoring seventy points a game. It's when things aren't working
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out well.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
And now all I know is.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
These last couple of years, obviously two has had some
injury problems, right, Kalaias Campbell gone, Christian Wilkins gone, Tyreek
wants to trade every other week, and now Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Wants a trade.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
So that's not really good when when you're not winning
and all your star players won out or aren't here anymore.
I think this puts a big target on Mike McDaniel's back.
It's not working in Miami, and that's a fast city
to live in off the field too, so you definitely
need some of that leadership on the field. I don't
know who their leaders are, but don't I don't really
see that when I see guys like this in the
locker room coming off some losing seasons or not the
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best seasons, and every star player wants to trade. That
can't be you know, speaking too many high volumes of
culture in that building.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Yeah, and that's the thing that's concerning. When he first
got hired, it was like, okay, like it's a fun
offensive system coming from Shanahan. They getting all these weapons
they trade for Tyreek and like everything is explosive. But anytime,
as you mentioned that, you're building a team to this magnitude,
it is always about culture. Even I go back to
the Browns when they had OBJ, they had Jarvis Landger.
I mean that team was loaded, But I remember a
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coach on the staff he said, I'm still concerned about
the culture. Right now, I'm coaching at of high school.
We'll getting you know, now high school's crazy with the transfers.
I told the coach, I'm like, look, it's about the
culture and just based on how things are going, you're
hearing so many things coming out of Miami that aren't positive.
That's not about them potentially competing in the playoffs. It's
about them guys wanting to be this. It's mutually part
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of way. So Pilly he wants to get out of himself.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
Yeah, I would say this Miami team was a team
that we looked at as a team that could have
potentially competed. You know, they had too of the helmet,
the quarterback, you have Tyreek j Wado, you have explosive
backs where he mosted was back there. And then even
on defense, you know you brought in Jalen Ramsey, you
had Christian Wilkins, Kaleis Campbell, Javon Holland who they let
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go and go to New York. So it feels like,
you know, I don't want to say they're in a
rebuild or they're they're moving towards that, but moving away
from all of your star pieces and everything. It doesn't
look like it's a very prosperous situation right now in Miami.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
But hopefully they can turn it around.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I compare it to if you're renovating a house, right
you come and you get a runout house, and we're
gonna put the new windows in painted black, you know,
white house, black door. Everything looks good on the inside,
it's gonna sell real quick. But then earthquake hits or
hurricane quits. Now that basement's flooded.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Oh you didn't right pipe the house.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh yeah, aside the situation unfold.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
The ceiling's got a week, and that guy gets pretty costly,
you know, and I just don't think he really went
through and built the foundation correctly. And it was it
was a cool little house for a couple of years,
but I think that house is coming down.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
What about Jalen rams as a player, Nick, was that
somebody that you watched when you were younger, when you
were in college? Like, what is your experience watching Jalen
Ramsey and the impact that he had on defensive backs?
Speaker 7 (04:12):
Well, I'd say I was a Florida State fan growing up,
so I mean watching him at Florida State. Obviously he's infamous.
You liked that video interview after one of his games.
But one of the things I liked about him is
his physicality. You know, I played for Gus Bradley who
coached him when he was in in Jacksonville, and you know,
we watched his tape and it's just very explosive, very violent,
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went in locked up the number one receiver, you know.
Obviously you saw him getting to it with aj Brown
and different receivers and everything. And he's just the testament
of consistency over the past couple of years. I would
never write him off as a as a corner or
even as a nickel. You know, he played well and Jacksonville,
he played well in Los Angeles and even in Miami
hens reason he got the extension. So just to see
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him get the extension, and you know, for them to
be so ready to move on at this point, it's
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Well it's it is crazy to see the different stops
for such a talented player. But that position group, I
have to imagine that that is a type of player
that could go jump in on any defense and perhaps
make an impact.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It just might have to be the right situation.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah. No, And for him, just for Jalen alone, I
think he's a great corner, but I think he shines
brighter when he's at safety. Like he is a very
smart guy. He's absolutely outstandings from being athletic. And when
he was with the Rams of Rohie Morris, he was
playing the star position, which is like the nickel where
he was able to move around cover different guys. He
can cover the slot, cover the tight end, cover whoever.
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And I think he's more suited for that road just
to be locked in on one side, sure, like he'll
do a good job, but I think he's more beneficial
when he's in the middle the field because that's where
quarterbacks will now for sure account for him. So I
think that's where he shines more if he were to
go somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
In the last couple of years, other names have bubbled
to the surface, but I remember being on the sideline
for a lot of games and quarterbacks when just as
point blaying like, who is somebody who's nightmare material for
this position? Jalen Ramsey certainly qualifies, and perhaps he can
go to another team because it doesn't sound like he'll
be in Miami next fall. Speaking of quarterbacks, you've got
a thirty one year old quarterback in Dak Prescott looking
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to work his way back next season from a season
ending hamstring injury that he suffered in Week nine last year.
So recently at a charity gala, he was asked about
his health status.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Take a listen and were I talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yeah, I'm getting closer to where I want to be.
I don't want to put a percentage on it. I
know we've got team activities coming up.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
Imagine myself being involved in some sort if not all,
But then again, understanding right my age, what I had,
what I've went through is it's about getting getting to
the fall and being my best in the fall.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
So not rushing anything. But I'm where I want to be.
Speaker 9 (06:41):
Slimpathy, slim, whatever you want to call me, but uh yeah,
real slimshon, I'm just kidding. I actually I haven't really
lost any weight over by the same uh weights to
just move building my legs back up obviously from the hamstring.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Might be leaner up top, but.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Waits the same.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's a valid observation because I do think he does
a leaner up top.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I actually think I'm going he acknowledged that, But I
just saw the bow tie. The bow type place. I
had not seen that. We had a lot of charity events,
but the bull tie tracks.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
He's someone who I've watched over the years, you know,
puts it on for game day and everything.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
That's a pretty good look.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
That's a good look right there. Okay, Nick Cross.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Tide tomorrow, Nick Cross, both.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Tide tomorrow exactly? All right?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Is he a top ten quarterback? This is always a conversation.
It's kind of like the is Joe Flacco elite?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's like a new era of that. Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Is he still a top ten quarterback after all that
he's been through, do you.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Think, well, you know, with the top ten thing, I
think we're all quick to say, yeah, he's top ten,
Deck's good player. But then I had to do the numbers.
I had to really, you know, I had to make
sure my numbers is their room. But the take the
numbers numbering, you know what I'm saying. And when I
did that, I think he just misses out. And here
why I'm going to list him for you guys, right,
and this is no particular order. It's just a category, right,
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and they put him in an.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Order here, So don't hold me to this.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
We got my homes.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Alan Lamar Jackson really right, Burrow, that's an upper echelon
right there. Then you got it hurts up there right
with what he's done in the playoffs. Whatever you think
about him or not, Jalen Hurts winning super Bowls, Matthew
Stafford still elite. In my opinion, Jaden Daniels is the
future of this league, guys. He is legit. So that
is my top seven quarterbacks. Dak is not touching that
top seven. I think we can all agree with that.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
All right.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Now, I have a next range here Jared golf Right,
I think is a really good quarterback. Baker Mayfield, I
think he's not going anywhere. Brock Perdy, I played with them.
Brock Perry is a winner. Justin Herbert. We know his
potentials to the route and Jordan love Right, and Dak
is somewhere in there. Is he in the top three
of the next five I'm missing out there. I don't know,
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but I think that's why he missed out that top ten.
He's not in that top seven. He's in that next
you know, Jared golf Baker justin Herbert category, and I
think we will take those guys over Dak right now.
With the injuries recently, and it's.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Not all Dak's fault.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
The system still goes through Dak since they haven't had
a running game in the last couple of years. Dallas's
offense goes through Dak. But what Dak is missing is
a put thorer wide receivers. He doesn't have Michael Gallup anymore.
He doesn't have Amari Cooper, a long CD Lamb. He
just has Ceedee Lamb. He doesn't have prime Ezekale Elliot anymore.
He does not have that running game that he had
when he had Tony Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott, so he
doesn't have the running game. That offensive line is older
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than it has been in the years past when he
had a dominant offensive line. He does not have those receivers.
So all those reasons with the injuries is why Dak
is at the top ten for.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Me, based on everything you said, is why I will
keep him in the top ten and just alone, just
him as a franchise quarterback. You know, I had the
pleasure of spending the whole entire offseason with Dallas and
really got to sit there and got to know that
and got to watch how he offer. Is me right there,
coach blackman on the scene, and that's I really got
to understand, like the process, how he works, and he
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me being around Farv and Rogers and Eli, like just
be around those quarterbacks. He fits in that mode in
terms of his professionalism and him understand the offense. And
I go back to yes, his best seasons. You know,
we're going back to nineteen when he had Zeke who
you know, I ran for over twelve hundred yards and
you had Amari Cooper and Ceedee Lamb. He had his weapons.
His other best year, he had the same thing a
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Cooper's and Ceedee Lamb, and so then you go to
the other year we had Tony Pollard and Seed he
had his best season ever, he still had the weapons,
And I go to that list of like Mahomes has weapons,
Jalen hurts. You had Sirianni on record saying like, yeah,
you guys can say, like Mark quarterback would be nothing
without weapons, but we put weapons around him so he
can be productive. And I just feel like it's up
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to again to Jerry Jones and the Cowboys to get
to get Dak the's weapons so that he can continue
to be productive. So I think when he does have
the right pieces around him, he continued to be a
top ten quarterback. I can see where golf because golf
took the Rams to the Super Bowl, and so I
can say, okay, and also what he's doing with Detroit,
But again Detroit has a pluthor or weapons for him
as well too, So I think I take that into
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consideration with company.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You got Dak over golf, I have Dak over golf.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Okay, Okay, right.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
I think when Dak is healthy in the regular season,
I think he's very effective. I think he's the top
ten quarterback in the regular season. Now we'll get to
the playoffs, it might be a different story. But when
he had those weapons, when he had Zeke, when he
had a dominant offensive line, he had tight ends, when
he had a planthorough of receivers, he was elite at
throwing the football, even you know last year being in
the MVP race, you know, all pro being able to
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accomplish those things with that team. For me, I think
the separation comes when against the playoffs. You know, in
the playoffs you have to show up like you did
in the regular season, and unfortunately it hasn't shown up
like that for him and the Dallas Cowboys when they
get to that point.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
So two questions, Well, I want to circle back to
the fact that you put him in the top ten
and you use words like because of how he operates
in his professionalism? Does that qualify? Are those qualifiers for
top ten quarterback play for you? Because I understand your
biases if you watched it, don't operate and.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You saw him as a human.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
But like Logan's list is just like straight quarterback?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, straight?
Speaker 6 (11:47):
In's the thing I added my proson experience because I
do have some contexts in terms of seeing what he
is as a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
But it does.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
It does matter the fact that when he has his
wes weapons that are health or when he's healthy, and
when he does have his weapons, like things are going
well that are offense. Yeah, so I think it does matter, Like, Okay,
he doesn't the offensive line is a mess, or he's healthy,
or you know, the running game isn't as effective as
it has been. He has one receiver that is getting
triple team and double team all game long, you know,
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and then you have guys on record who play for McCarthy,
like Greg Jenning's saying, like the office isn't as innovative
as it should be, Like we knew what was going
to be like every single week, he said, I watched
the games now and it's still the stuff that we
did when we were in Green Bay. And so there
are some things where he's still being able to play
above the exit of those that are given to him
despite not having the right pieces around him.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
All Right, Nick, you're currently on a fifty three man
roster in the.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
NFL Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Last couple weeks back, it's the news that the Cowboys
have now traded for Joe Milton to bring him in
as another quarterback in the room. If you are on
that team, are you looking around the locker room like,
what's this about? What if the Cowboys draft a quarterback?
Are you watching the quarterback room in Dallas any differently?
Knowing what Dak has been through injury wise, performance wise,
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play wise in the last couple of.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Years, I think teams are always looking to prepare for
the future, right you know, Dak, like he said, he's
thirty one years old.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
He's getting up there.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
He's had a couple of injuries, although when he is
playing in the regular season, you know, looking at his stats,
he has been effective. You know, outside of one year
that you know he went eight and eight, playing all sixteen.
All the rest of the years that he's played over
ten games, he's had a winning record. So, you know,
being up there and you know they trade for Joe Miller,
a strong quarterback, elite arm talent, I think they are
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prepared for the future in a little bit, and you
know it would be good for him to come in
learn under Dak because you know, at the end of
the day, just like Will said, you know, Dak has
a level of professionalism that you know, Will has seen
and it's obviously kept in the league for a long time.
So it's good for Joe to be able to go
and learn under that. And you know, teams always want
to prepare for the future. You know, Dak at some
point the ball is going to drop for him, and
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you know they want to be prepared.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
So good point.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, I'm just going to rebuttal both of them. I
think that Listen, you could be twelve best in the
world at something, you know, that's that's still really good.
I mean, if you're the twelfth best quarterback in the world,
that there's no shade there. I just don't think he's
in the top ten. I named the seven. And then
I think Jared Golf is playing so efficient. Yes he
has a great offense around him, Yes he has a
great weapons, that's part of it. But he's playing with
what he's got. I mean, he was breaking records with
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his accuracy this year. Baker Mayfield right, he played a
lot of that last year without his weapon. Baker, Mike
Evans was out, He's been written off in the league.
Baker has Mike Evans has been out, Chris Godwin broke
his ankle, and Baker still put up top five passing numbers.
I think that we're seeing truly what Baker Mayfield is.
People love Herbert's potential. He hasn't done it, just like
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Dak hasn't done it. And when you say great in
the regular season, but not great in the playoffs, that's
putting an asterisk on why that might not be a
top ten player. What he does, you got to do
it in the playoffs is even more important in the
playoffs to elevate your game, to be the reason why
your team. I saw Dako head to head with Jordan
Love and the Packers a couple of years ago. That's
more and just Dak vers Jordan Love. Right, it's more
than just himself. But Jordan Love played a lot better
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in that game than Dallas did. The defense and Dak
to a pick six.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
They ran the ball like crazy. The defense gave up
the goods. But I will say for you, okay, give
me your top ten.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
You gave said.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Seven quarterbacks, and then you gave me like another five,
and then he gave Jared.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
He gave Jared, You give Jarreed got Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
There was room for one more. Yeah, I got you, I.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Got Jordan Love put his list back up, even though
it's Unran.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, but he's younger than he's younger than Dak. I
mean they what can't Jordan What can Dak do that
that Jordan Love can do? Show me what Jordan Love
can't do that?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You got three spots left?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Okay, I got jared'sff.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I got Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
That's nine.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I got uh Baker Golf, Jordan Love that's it. Und
I got my boy perty at eleven.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
My final question for you, Logan, if you're the twelfth
best at something like if you're the twelfth best quarterback
in the NFL, is that good enough of the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Should they be satisfied with that?
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Because it's a lot better than what else is out there.
You know, I always say this, Oh, this guy's got
to go. Well, who you replacing them with? I said,
The offense still goes through Dak. He's still a really
good player. We're talking top ten in the world at
your job and being number twelve in the world at
something that gets you fifty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So I'm mad at him.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
You know, if I could be the number twelve quarterback,
I want to be on his desk. I'll be playing still.
So my whole thing is you're number twelve. That's no
shade at you. It just we put them because he's
Dallas quarterback. You don't got to be top ten. He's
just not top ten. He's coming off an injury, he's
going off some down years. Yes, the talent's around him,
but because of those reasons and the lack of playoff performance,
that's why he's not my top ten.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You and Jason mccordy must have gone to the same
business school of football, because I used to bicker with
him about personnel decisions of different teams in the league,
and he would always say to me, who are you
going to replace him with?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And I want to throw him a coffee at him.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And it's so infuriating because I always think there's something
better if you're not satisfied.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But that's just a fans perspective. Good morning football.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So the draft is next week and the Dolphins might
be looking into getting an offensive lineman after the great
toront arms said called it a career last weekend. Armstead
spent twelve seasons in the NFL with both the Dolphins
and the Saints, and he put together quite the resume,
a five time Pro Bowl selection, twenty nineteen Saints Man
of the Year. Plus he's got some speed to the
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big man, and he was on one of NFL Network's
top one hundred lists.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
In the last couple of seasons.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
So we love to see that for Toront, Arms said,
We've loved watching him and now we are going to
enjoy talking to him on Giammphy.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Good morning, Toron, Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's awesome to see you. Congratulations on everything. You're a
week into retirement. What hobbies have you picked up in
the meantime? Bird watching, gardening, golfing, both playing or watching
the Masters over the weekend. What are you filling your
time with now that you're not getting your body right
for the next season.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
No, I'm fully embracing the old man life. I'm welcome
a lot, enjoying, enjoying my walking, enjoying, send back, sending back, reading,
just more and more to the quiet simple things that
the quiet simple spoils of life these days, and I'm
enjoying them.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Toron.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I feel like, as someone who retired a year before you,
I feel like as an NFL player that they do
a great job of teaching us how to get in
the league. Obviously college in this draft process, it's up
for the player to stay in the league as long
as you have. But they don't teach you how to
get out of the league. They don't teach you what
life's like after. So tell me how you knew, how
you came to the decision that some of the thoughts
you might have for some other players out there, and
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why you decided to retire.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
Yeah, Logan, it's just still was so many factors for me.
My body, for one, dealing with the knee that is
going on bone. You know, there's nothing left for me
to do to prepare and and to go through another season.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
It would have been extremely, extremely challenging.
Speaker 10 (18:55):
Then in factoring in my kids and my family, just
it's time to just be more present, be more invested
in their lives as they begin their athletic career too.
So many factors that went into it though, and prayed
about it for a long time, thought about it, talked
to the people I needed to talk to. So just
coming to this decision peacefully, man, I'm pretty sure. Not
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pretty sure, I am sure and at peace with my
decision to walk away from the game.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Toron, what's up? Will Blackman?
Speaker 10 (19:22):
Here?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
You are?
Speaker 6 (19:23):
You were three times first Team All swack Man. How
did it feel or did you take a lot of
pride and represent the HBCU for twelve years? Like, how
do you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:31):
For sure, for sure, I wore that that badge with
full honor.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
So many grades that came before me, that that paved
the way to allow the scouts to to come watch
our film down and down in the HPCU circuit man,
and just just to be able to represent all the
all the greats and all the legends that we have
in the NFL history that came from me. It's historic
Black colleges. It's an incredible honor something I do not
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take lightly.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
What's up?
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Tron Netcross here? Believe we played all last year. I
think we won.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
You got to come back now. It's nice to meet you.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
So I see you wearing four to seven to one
at three hundred pounds. It's been over three hundred pounds.
It's been about twelve years since then. One where did
you get the wheels from?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
And two?
Speaker 7 (20:23):
If you were to get on the line today, are
you still running under five seconds?
Speaker 10 (20:31):
First foremost, you know, being being being blessed, you know,
God given talent and ability and putting the work into
my hometown. We were really known for speed back into hockey, Illinois,
small town, but we got a lot of state championships
in track and field, so we're known for speed and
can I run up under five?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Still? That's tough, man. Listen. As you get older, Nick,
you're going to see this.
Speaker 10 (20:54):
I know you about year four or five, things start
to start to change, saying and you got to find
new ways to win. You got to evolve your game.
You learn different takes, niques. Could I run under five seconds?
The world may never know. I'm not doing it. I'm
not doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, since you're not running the forty anymore, it sounds
like you're walking. Are you taking up power walking? Because
this is an event that we see at the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Now and it's it's sweeping that.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh yeah, you got the Bosa brothers with the hips
back and forth like are you are you walking with
the purpose or are you walking for the scenery.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I'm walking with it. I'm walking for the scenery. I'm
making sure I get some some push to it.
Speaker 10 (21:34):
You know, I'm not just you know, walking walking on
the beach, but I'm not doing all the power walking
and I can't do the like the hip shift.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I'm not need So that's that's a little too much.
That's a little too much trying.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
A ton of people, you know, reached out to you
and celebrated your retirement. Who was one of your favorite
former teammates that you heard from and what was the
special message that you got.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
So I actually had a retirement party and I had
when I say, my guy showed up, they and they
really really touched my heart. I feel extremely blessed and
horen't to have Drew Brees, Willie Rove, Cam Jordan mark Ingram,
Teddy Bridgewater, Tyreek Hill, Mike McDaniel, Frank It was, it was,
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It was incredible. It was incredible and just just a
very very touching, touching evening.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
When you announce your retirement. You know, Drew Brees, your quarterback.
You know, he praised you for a lot of leadership,
you know, which is a huge compliment coming from someone
like Drew, Like take us, you know, inside the huddle
to the locker room, Like how would it lift you up,
motivate your teammates?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Drew was incredible.
Speaker 11 (22:39):
Man.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
His preparation alone, Like you see somebody that that left
no stone unturned every week, no matter what our offensive
production was the week before, Like, he still committed the.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Same level of preparation time and for the energy.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
So just watching him prepare the way that he did,
like you didn't want to let this got down. You
wanted to be and do everything possible to go out
there and perform for him and be productive.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
So it's just just watching him and other leaders that
we had.
Speaker 10 (23:07):
Man, I learned, I studied, I paid attention to those guys,
and for me, I just always wanted the betterment of
my team, Like just wanted the guys to improve to
daily progress, to really have that full investment because we
are a short winded to do this.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I played for twelve years, but that's a short span
of my life, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10 (23:23):
So I wanted to maximize that, maximize my potential and
had that full investment.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Toron, as a fellow broadcast who can't classmate of mind,
I know you want to get to broadcasting and teach
people about life, especially in the trenches. So what's something
about playing the old line mentality wise or something you
can bring to the screen and maybe tell the fans
at home what a twelve years at the old line means.
Speaker 10 (23:43):
Yeah, I would love to get more into a detailed
space and we're talking to trenches. Get more into the technique, assignments,
hand placement, leverage, you know what I'm trying to do
as far as manipulating with my eyes and first step
pre snap, dummy calls and things like that where I'm
making a run call but i know it's a play action,
but I'm getting a reaction from.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
The linebackers they hear me. I'm making sure they.
Speaker 10 (24:05):
Hear me, just those small details and just give people
more insight and a little bit more of an education.
I feel like as a fan base, we know a
lot about quarterback play. You know a lot about the
skill positions, but it's time we learn a little bit
more about what's going on in there with the big dogs.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
There you go, Well, I appreciate that tidbit, you know.
So anytime I hear alignments making some run call or
something I'm gonna, you know, make sure to let my
play know it might not only be true. I might
you might catch a little slack for this question, But
who are your top three teammates you've played with over
your twelve years.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
God, come on, bro.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
I was going to ask you your favorite and I
was like you a little.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
Wigging on, ah Man, that that is is nearly impossible.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Really, I would go.
Speaker 10 (24:53):
Goodness, gracious, top three teammates who were the first.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Three to arrive at your retirement party. Go with that.
Speaker 10 (25:01):
First three. Drew Drew was there early, which was surprising,
Breeze pulled up early to a pulled up early and
I'll say, Robert Hunt, Robert Hunt.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's a good liss, Tron.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Are you going to miss young players trying to talk
smack with you in the locker room like neck Cross.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I don't rage with you today on the shout look.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I love it. I love it because I get talking
with the best of them. I love it.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Tron.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You're a gem and we hope to have you at
the table here sometime as you enter into the next
phase of your life and career. Congratulations on an awesome
dozen years in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Good morn football.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
He can rip it, he can pull it, and he's
gonna do all those things in the NFL next season.
It's old miss quarterback Jackson, darr what's going on?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Jackson?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
More to you dark, good morning. I'll hi y'all doing.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
We're awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
But perhaps in this moment in time, one week until
the NFL Draft, how are you?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
This is quite the process. It's quite the time for
you and your life just high holding up with all this.
Speaker 12 (26:15):
Yeah, I feel like I've had like a whirlwind of
emotions a little bit, going from place to place, honestly,
from like coast to coast really, you know, just visiting
teams and you know, having little workouts and whatnot. So
I'm really wishing the draft was like tomorrow so we could,
you know, see where we're all going and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
But you know, trying to just enjoy the process.
Speaker 12 (26:33):
And my family has been great, you know, a support
system around me, so you know, they've helped guide me through.
Speaker 13 (26:38):
All right, let's talk about the process for you. I
went back to an old high school EVL I had
on you and at the time it was Fordam, it
was Louisiana Lafaette, Like you weren't this biggest star that
you are now in advance the draft. Can you share
the belief system that you had in yourself at that
point and now where we sit today. How that has
become your reality.
Speaker 12 (26:57):
Yeah, it's definitely kind of crazy to look back at
the journey, and like you said, you know, I remember
being in that headspace when I didn't have a lot,
and you know, at one point, you know, honestly, I
was thinking I was just going to have to go
play baseball because things just weren't working out as much
on the football side of things.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
So quite honestly, it's never really been a doubt. You know,
this has been something that I've dreamed of my whole life.
Speaker 12 (27:16):
And I remember going back to preschool and writing down
what do you want to be one day?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
And you know, I want to be a Super Bowl
winning quarterback.
Speaker 12 (27:21):
So didn't really quite expect anything less than what it
is now, but really just grateful and humble for the opportunity.
Speaker 11 (27:27):
Jackson Tony Jefferson safety for the Chargers. You play for
one of the top play callers in college football with
Lane Kiffin, and you've been quoted in comparing him to
Yoda from Star Wars. Yeah, how was coach Kiffen? How's
he helped you like mold you into the quarterback yard today?
And like what about him is like your style? Of coach.
Speaker 12 (27:48):
Yeah, I think it's just really cool to look back on,
you know, kind of our journey that we've had together,
from the moment that he recruited me to going from
season to season. And I think one thing that really
intrigued me when I committed to him was just, you know,
how he was able to adapt his offenses around his
talent and his quarterback. And you can see it through
the three seasons that I played with him, like each
year the offense changed just a little bit and we
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added new things, you know, got rid of different tendencies,
and I think that that's really unique for a coach,
and you know, really, you know, it is a tribute
to him and his knowledge of how he's able to
understand the game and really coordinate and pair an offense
around his quarterback and the talent that he has around it.
And you know, I love my time there, and me
and Coach Kiff have such a great relationship on and
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off the field, and just really grateful.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
For my time Jackson.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
A couple of years back, I was on the SEC
on CBS sideline. It was before you got to Ole Miss,
and I had an ole Miss Alabama game assignment. It
was it was in Tuscaloosa. Lane Kiffin comes out of
the locker room. He's got to do the pre game
pre kick interview with me, and instead of answering whatever
question I laid out for him at the time, he
instead decides to lay a one liner down and toss
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his headset as it happens, and get.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Your popcorn ready.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
The game didn't go great for Old Miss, but it
was a classic landkiff In moment and that he wanted
to make this an electric feeling for Ole Miss. What
is a one liner or a lesson that you learned
from Lane that you will take into the NFL that
has shaped you as a quarterback?
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Geez, that's kind of hard to think of just one liners.
But you know, there's definitely a lot of things that
I'll take from him.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You know.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
Really, if you ever ask him a question, he always
just says maybe, which I think that's one thing that
I kind of like to use now, you know, and
people kind of get confused by it because you.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Know, you never really know what he's thinking.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
He's famously noncommittal.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
Yeah, no doubt. I mean, you guys know him just
as much as I do. I mean, you never know
what's going on inside of that. So you know, I'm
going to take a lot from my time playing with him,
you know, off the field too, just the time that
we spent and you know, the bond that we had
was special.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You keep mentioning off the field sounds like you guys
have played pickle ball together.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
What's that like?
Speaker 12 (29:52):
Yeah, you know, we actually we've had I think in
the past three days we had like nine matchups and
he has He's only won one game. So I think
he was probably excited that I left Oxford because now
I can try to want to get a win.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Well, you there is no maybe in the fact that
you were about to get paid like an NFL player.
What's going on with your partnership with Crocs as you
entered the next phase of your life.
Speaker 12 (30:15):
Yeah, Crocs has been you know, I've been riding with
Crocs since I was young. Whether it was like me
going to AAU basketball tournaments back in the day or whatever.
It was like it was such a comforting footwear and whatnot.
So it's you know, it's helped me and in my recovery,
it's helped me in like little pregame fits and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
So you know, really.
Speaker 12 (30:33):
Happy to be partnered with them, and it definitely hits
close to home with how much that I've used them
in the past.
Speaker 13 (30:38):
Okay, so you grew up in Utah, you're there today
right now.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
You just got back home.
Speaker 13 (30:42):
Then he came out to USC and then you went
down to where Jamie spent a lot of her career
in the sc C. Man, what was that league like
in terms of preparing you for the moment that you're
about to enter in the NFL.
Speaker 12 (30:56):
Jeez, I feel like it's definitely prepared me the best
way that I could be prepared. You know, for the
longest time, you know, the SEC has been the best
conference in allege football, so you know, each and every
week you're going up getting the best competition and the
best coaching so as well as the best game day environments.
So you know, I think with all those factors involved,
I definitely feel like it's going to prepare me. But yeah,
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the football is just different in the South. I don't
really know how to describe it. You kind of have
to you have to live it or see it to
really understand it. But I was blessed to have, you know,
my time there, and wouldn't want to spend my time
anywhere else, that's for sure.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
Draft expert Daniel Jeremiah the Goat said he loves loves
the way you play the game, your ability to create
off the script plays, execute the design runs. Do you
feel that's something you offer to teams and you're bringing
like a different aspect to the table for other QB prospects.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Yeah, I just think that I'm a versatile player.
Speaker 12 (31:49):
I feel like I can just do a lot of
different things and which kind of makes me unique. Especially
I don't think a lot of people even talk about it,
but you know, I'm going to be the youngest quarterback
in the NFL next year, so I'm just going to
continue to grow and get better each and every year.
And so I'm still developing, and you know, I think that,
you know, my ceiling is really high. So I'm really
excited to get with the team, be coached, you know,
as hard as possible, and continue to develop my skill
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set to make me the best player that I could
be for a team.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Jackson, I'm always fascinated by football players because you guys
go out there and you play this physical, intense game.
Then you have these hobbies like golf or fishing, for example,
that takes an immense amount of patience and you have
to keep your body still, You have to sit for a.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Very long time.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
You are an avid outdoorsman and fishing is your game.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
What is the bigger thrill?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Catching a big fish or throwing a big touchdown pass?
Speaker 12 (32:40):
It's just be real, like, there's nothing that compares to
a touchdown pass.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
I mean, I love fishing, but there's nothing that compares.
Speaker 12 (32:45):
To that feeling now that Yeah, that was a good
that was a great feeling.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
That's a lake trout.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It's a casual lake trout I think. I mean is yeah,
catch and release? What are we doing with that? Oh?
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Absolutely?
Speaker 12 (32:59):
You know those fish can get like really old into
like they're wow, thirties to fifties, So you know you
definitely catch and release those because there's such prehistoric animals
and definitely got to respect them in that regard.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Okay, okay, here's the question.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You know, we got all these really weird quarterback warm
up drills or the guys to do in the deck
and like with the hips, do you ever do like
the fish and the rich like, is that something how
you warm up your shoulder?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Maybe? Is that like your quarterback warm up.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
No, but maybe I could try it.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You know, I think we're onto something.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
You showed me how to do that. Again, I definitely
take some note.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I see what you're trying to do, and I'm not
going to do it, but I.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Think you definitely showed it and you can make a
name for yourself. I'm just kicking ideas around the table time.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
You know how big it is for the game day outfits.
You know, it's very important. IG That's that's where we
see who's really balling with the fits and fashion. I
hear you put your your fashion together before the season.
Tell me about that process.
Speaker 12 (33:53):
Yeah, I think it really just starts from my mom.
My mom, she's kind of implemented me into the fashion
world since I was young, and you know, you know,
when I was like in elementary school, she was the
one that was like laying out outfits for me. So,
you know, I was just kind of having that relationship
and whatnot, and then being able to go and.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Have the Walk of Champions at Ole Miss.
Speaker 12 (34:12):
You definitely gave us some opportunities to kind of show
and express, you know, kind of the taste that we
like in the fashion world. So it was definitely fun
because that also brought us closer and you know, having
content communication throughout the off season and putting those fits together.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
So it was fun.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Okay, So in that spirit, what's up with the juice hat?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
What's the origination there?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
It's just that right, I see.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
All I can think of as juice and bling when
I look at Jackson Dart Right now, Jackson, this as
you said, you where's the draft is tomorrow? You want
to know what your future holds. This might be your
last opportunity to speak to GMS or coaches. What's the
most most important thing you want people to know about
the Jackson Dark quarterback experience?
Speaker 12 (34:49):
I think the biggest thing is you're going to get,
you know, somebody who cares about every little thing when
he steps into the office or when he steps into
a room with his teammates.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
That's one thing that you know can really separate great.
Speaker 12 (35:00):
Players from just good and average players is just you know,
your accountability, your self discipline and consistency and everything that
you do. Everybody at that level is going to have
a special and unique traits of talent. But you know
what is it that pushes you and makes you even better?
Think that it's my work ethic and how I'm able
to lead a group of men. And at the same time,
you know, I'm ultimate competitors, so you know, I would
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never want to go against me.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
And you know I know that teams, you know that's
something they've always said.
Speaker 12 (35:26):
But I'm gonna do whatever it takes to win, and
you know I'm gonna win a super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Tony is very impressed by that. That's a great, great approach.
Speaker 11 (35:34):
Yeah, I like this guy. Besides your art, Bro, you're
you're you're good.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I like he's got the juice. All right, Jackson's art. Everybody,
we appreciate you. We can't wait to hear your name
come back on GMTP when you know who you're planning for.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Best of luck, say healthy Jackson.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Yeah, thank you guys for having me think about.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
That warm up cast to release that ball.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
It's trying to do it again.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football in Miami.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Dolphins reportedly because and when our NFL network inside are
Ian Rappaport and Toalm tellisera tweet something gotta pay attention
the Dolphins and seven time Pro Bowl cornerback reportedly Jalen Ramsey,
they have mutually agreed to explore trade options moving forward.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Now, this would not.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Be a surprise if you see Jalen Ramsey playing on
someone else's defense in twenty twenty five. This a lot
has to do with the fact that he's doing twenty
five million dollars guaranteed next season. And Jalen Ramsey, you know,
has been an excellent cornerback in his career, but he's
played for a several different teams, several different defenses and coordinators.
So when you look at the Dolphins stillman logan, I'll
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start with you, perhaps the direction this team is going in,
but also the Jalen Ramsey direction as well.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
What do you make of this current situation?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, I think of the first word that comes to mind,
a word it's so overplayed in the NFL and pro football,
is culture or lack thereof like, what is Miami's culture?
And the thing is they don't have one, you know,
And I know I was taught earlier in my career
that cultures who you are when you're losing, not when
you're winning, not when you're going fast, not when you're
scoring seventy points a game. It's when things aren't working
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out well.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
And now all I know is.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
These last couple of years, obviously two has had some
injury problems, right, Kalaias Campbell gone, Christian Wilkins gone, Tyreek
wants to trade every other week, and now Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Wants a trade.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
So that's not really good when when you're not winning
and all your star players won out or aren't here anymore.
I think this puts a big target on Mike McDaniel's back.
It's not working in Miami, and that's a fast city
to live in off the field too, so you definitely
need some of that leadership on the field. I don't
know who their leaders are, but don't I don't really
see that when I see guys like this in the
locker room coming off some losing seasons or not the
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best seasons, and every star player wants to trade. That
can't be you know, speaking too many high volumes of
culture in that building.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Yeah, and that's the thing that's concerning. When he first
got hired, it was like, okay, like it's a fun
offensive system coming from Shanahan. They getting all these weapons
they trade for Tyreek and like everything is explosive. But anytime,
as you mentioned that, you're building a team to this magnitude,
it is always about culture. Even I go back to
the Browns when they had OBJ, they had Jarvis Landger.
I mean that team was loaded, But I remember a
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coach on the staff he said, I'm still concerned about
the culture. Right now, I'm coaching at of high school.
We'll getting you know, now high school's crazy with the transfers.
I told the coach, I'm like, look, it's about the
culture and just based on how things are going, you're
hearing so many things coming out of Miami that aren't positive.
That's not about them potentially competing in the playoffs. It's
about them guys wanting to be this. It's mutually part
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of way. So Pilly he wants to get out of himself.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
Yeah, I would say this Miami team was a team
that we looked at as a team that could have
potentially competed. You know, they had too of the helmet,
the quarterback, you have Tyreek j Wado, you have explosive
backs where he mosted was back there. And then even
on defense, you know you brought in Jalen Ramsey, you
had Christian Wilkins, Kaleis Campbell, Javon Holland who they let
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go and go to New York. So it feels like,
you know, I don't want to say they're in a
rebuild or they're they're moving towards that, but moving away
from all of your star pieces and everything. It doesn't
look like it's a very prosperous situation right now in Miami.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
But hopefully they can turn it around.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I compare it to if you're renovating a house, right
you come and you get a runout house, and we're
gonna put the new windows in painted black, you know,
white house, black door. Everything looks good on the inside,
it's gonna sell real quick. But then earthquake hits or
hurricane quits. Now that basement's flooded.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Oh you didn't right pipe the house.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh yeah, aside the situation unfold.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
The ceiling's got a week, and that guy gets pretty costly,
you know, and I just don't think he really went
through and built the foundation correctly. And it was it
was a cool little house for a couple of years,
but I think that house is coming down.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
What about Jalen rams as a player, Nick, was that
somebody that you watched when you were younger, when you
were in college? Like, what is your experience watching Jalen
Ramsey and the impact that he had on defensive backs?
Speaker 7 (04:12):
Well, I'd say I was a Florida State fan growing up,
so I mean watching him at Florida State. Obviously he's infamous.
You liked that video interview after one of his games.
But one of the things I liked about him is
his physicality. You know, I played for Gus Bradley who
coached him when he was in in Jacksonville, and you know,
we watched his tape and it's just very explosive, very violent,
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went in locked up the number one receiver, you know.
Obviously you saw him getting to it with aj Brown
and different receivers and everything. And he's just the testament
of consistency over the past couple of years. I would
never write him off as a as a corner or
even as a nickel. You know, he played well and Jacksonville,
he played well in Los Angeles and even in Miami
hens reason he got the extension. So just to see
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him get the extension, and you know, for them to
be so ready to move on at this point, it's
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Well it's it is crazy to see the different stops
for such a talented player. But that position group, I
have to imagine that that is a type of player
that could go jump in on any defense and perhaps
make an impact.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It just might have to be the right situation.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah. No, And for him, just for Jalen alone, I
think he's a great corner, but I think he shines
brighter when he's at safety. Like he is a very
smart guy. He's absolutely outstandings from being athletic. And when
he was with the Rams of Rohie Morris, he was
playing the star position, which is like the nickel where
he was able to move around cover different guys. He
can cover the slot, cover the tight end, cover whoever.
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And I think he's more suited for that road just
to be locked in on one side, sure, like he'll
do a good job, but I think he's more beneficial
when he's in the middle the field because that's where
quarterbacks will now for sure account for him. So I
think that's where he shines more if he were to
go somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
In the last couple of years, other names have bubbled
to the surface, but I remember being on the sideline
for a lot of games and quarterbacks when just as
point blaying like, who is somebody who's nightmare material for
this position? Jalen Ramsey certainly qualifies, and perhaps he can
go to another team because it doesn't sound like he'll
be in Miami next fall. Speaking of quarterbacks, you've got
a thirty one year old quarterback in Dak Prescott looking
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to work his way back next season from a season
ending hamstring injury that he suffered in Week nine last year.
So recently at a charity gala, he was asked about
his health status.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Take a listen and were I talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yeah, I'm getting closer to where I want to be.
I don't want to put a percentage on it. I
know we've got team activities coming up.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
Imagine myself being involved in some sort if not all,
But then again, understanding right my age, what I had,
what I've went through is it's about getting getting to
the fall and being my best in the fall.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
So not rushing anything. But I'm where I want to be.
Speaker 9 (06:41):
Slimpathy, slim, whatever you want to call me, but uh yeah,
real slimshon, I'm just kidding. I actually I haven't really
lost any weight over by the same uh weights to
just move building my legs back up obviously from the hamstring.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Might be leaner up top, but.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Waits the same.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's a valid observation because I do think he does
a leaner up top.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I actually think I'm going he acknowledged that, But I
just saw the bow tie. The bow type place. I
had not seen that. We had a lot of charity events,
but the bull tie tracks.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
He's someone who I've watched over the years, you know,
puts it on for game day and everything.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
That's a pretty good look.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
That's a good look right there. Okay, Nick Cross.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Tide tomorrow, Nick Cross, both.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Tide tomorrow exactly? All right?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Is he a top ten quarterback? This is always a conversation.
It's kind of like the is Joe Flacco elite?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's like a new era of that. Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Is he still a top ten quarterback after all that
he's been through, do you.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Think, well, you know, with the top ten thing, I
think we're all quick to say, yeah, he's top ten,
Deck's good player. But then I had to do the numbers.
I had to really, you know, I had to make
sure my numbers is their room. But the take the
numbers numbering, you know what I'm saying. And when I
did that, I think he just misses out. And here
why I'm going to list him for you guys, right,
and this is no particular order. It's just a category, right,
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and they put him in an.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Order here, So don't hold me to this.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
We got my homes.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Alan Lamar Jackson really right, Burrow, that's an upper echelon
right there. Then you got it hurts up there right
with what he's done in the playoffs. Whatever you think
about him or not, Jalen Hurts winning super Bowls, Matthew
Stafford still elite. In my opinion, Jaden Daniels is the
future of this league, guys. He is legit. So that
is my top seven quarterbacks. Dak is not touching that
top seven. I think we can all agree with that.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
All right.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Now, I have a next range here Jared golf Right,
I think is a really good quarterback. Baker Mayfield, I
think he's not going anywhere. Brock Perdy, I played with them.
Brock Perry is a winner. Justin Herbert. We know his
potentials to the route and Jordan love Right, and Dak
is somewhere in there. Is he in the top three
of the next five I'm missing out there. I don't know,
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but I think that's why he missed out that top ten.
He's not in that top seven. He's in that next
you know, Jared golf Baker justin Herbert category, and I
think we will take those guys over Dak right now.
With the injuries recently, and it's.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Not all Dak's fault.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
The system still goes through Dak since they haven't had
a running game in the last couple of years. Dallas's
offense goes through Dak. But what Dak is missing is
a put thorer wide receivers. He doesn't have Michael Gallup anymore.
He doesn't have Amari Cooper, a long CD Lamb. He
just has Ceedee Lamb. He doesn't have prime Ezekale Elliot anymore.
He does not have that running game that he had
when he had Tony Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott, so he
doesn't have the running game. That offensive line is older
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than it has been in the years past when he
had a dominant offensive line. He does not have those receivers.
So all those reasons with the injuries is why Dak
is at the top ten for.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Me, based on everything you said, is why I will
keep him in the top ten and just alone, just
him as a franchise quarterback. You know, I had the
pleasure of spending the whole entire offseason with Dallas and
really got to sit there and got to know that
and got to watch how he offer. Is me right there,
coach blackman on the scene, and that's I really got
to understand, like the process, how he works, and he
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me being around Farv and Rogers and Eli, like just
be around those quarterbacks. He fits in that mode in
terms of his professionalism and him understand the offense. And
I go back to yes, his best seasons. You know,
we're going back to nineteen when he had Zeke who
you know, I ran for over twelve hundred yards and
you had Amari Cooper and Ceedee Lamb. He had his weapons.
His other best year, he had the same thing a
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Cooper's and Ceedee Lamb, and so then you go to
the other year we had Tony Pollard and Seed he
had his best season ever, he still had the weapons,
And I go to that list of like Mahomes has weapons,
Jalen hurts. You had Sirianni on record saying like, yeah,
you guys can say, like Mark quarterback would be nothing
without weapons, but we put weapons around him so he
can be productive. And I just feel like it's up
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to again to Jerry Jones and the Cowboys to get
to get Dak the's weapons so that he can continue
to be productive. So I think when he does have
the right pieces around him, he continued to be a
top ten quarterback. I can see where golf because golf
took the Rams to the Super Bowl, and so I
can say, okay, and also what he's doing with Detroit,
But again Detroit has a pluthor or weapons for him
as well too, So I think I take that into
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consideration with company.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You got Dak over golf, I have Dak over golf.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Okay, Okay, right.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
I think when Dak is healthy in the regular season,
I think he's very effective. I think he's the top
ten quarterback in the regular season. Now we'll get to
the playoffs, it might be a different story. But when
he had those weapons, when he had Zeke, when he
had a dominant offensive line, he had tight ends, when
he had a planthorough of receivers, he was elite at
throwing the football, even you know last year being in
the MVP race, you know, all pro being able to
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accomplish those things with that team. For me, I think
the separation comes when against the playoffs. You know, in
the playoffs you have to show up like you did
in the regular season, and unfortunately it hasn't shown up
like that for him and the Dallas Cowboys when they
get to that point.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
So two questions, Well, I want to circle back to
the fact that you put him in the top ten
and you use words like because of how he operates
in his professionalism? Does that qualify? Are those qualifiers for
top ten quarterback play for you? Because I understand your
biases if you watched it, don't operate and.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You saw him as a human.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
But like Logan's list is just like straight quarterback?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, straight?
Speaker 6 (11:47):
In's the thing I added my proson experience because I
do have some contexts in terms of seeing what he
is as a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
But it does.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
It does matter the fact that when he has his
wes weapons that are health or when he's healthy, and
when he does have his weapons, like things are going
well that are offense. Yeah, so I think it does matter, Like, Okay,
he doesn't the offensive line is a mess, or he's healthy,
or you know, the running game isn't as effective as
it has been. He has one receiver that is getting
triple team and double team all game long, you know,
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and then you have guys on record who play for McCarthy,
like Greg Jenning's saying, like the office isn't as innovative
as it should be, Like we knew what was going
to be like every single week, he said, I watched
the games now and it's still the stuff that we
did when we were in Green Bay. And so there
are some things where he's still being able to play
above the exit of those that are given to him
despite not having the right pieces around him.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
All Right, Nick, you're currently on a fifty three man
roster in the.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
NFL Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Last couple weeks back, it's the news that the Cowboys
have now traded for Joe Milton to bring him in
as another quarterback in the room. If you are on
that team, are you looking around the locker room like,
what's this about? What if the Cowboys draft a quarterback?
Are you watching the quarterback room in Dallas any differently?
Knowing what Dak has been through injury wise, performance wise,
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play wise in the last couple of.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Years, I think teams are always looking to prepare for
the future, right you know, Dak, like he said, he's
thirty one years old.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
He's getting up there.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
He's had a couple of injuries, although when he is
playing in the regular season, you know, looking at his stats,
he has been effective. You know, outside of one year
that you know he went eight and eight, playing all sixteen.
All the rest of the years that he's played over
ten games, he's had a winning record. So, you know,
being up there and you know they trade for Joe Miller,
a strong quarterback, elite arm talent, I think they are
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prepared for the future in a little bit, and you
know it would be good for him to come in
learn under Dak because you know, at the end of
the day, just like Will said, you know, Dak has
a level of professionalism that you know, Will has seen
and it's obviously kept in the league for a long time.
So it's good for Joe to be able to go
and learn under that. And you know, teams always want
to prepare for the future. You know, Dak at some
point the ball is going to drop for him, and
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you know they want to be prepared.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
So good point.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, I'm just going to rebuttal both of them. I
think that Listen, you could be twelve best in the
world at something, you know, that's that's still really good.
I mean, if you're the twelfth best quarterback in the world,
that there's no shade there. I just don't think he's
in the top ten. I named the seven. And then
I think Jared Golf is playing so efficient. Yes he
has a great offense around him, Yes he has a
great weapons, that's part of it. But he's playing with
what he's got. I mean, he was breaking records with
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his accuracy this year. Baker Mayfield right, he played a
lot of that last year without his weapon. Baker, Mike
Evans was out, He's been written off in the league.
Baker has Mike Evans has been out, Chris Godwin broke
his ankle, and Baker still put up top five passing numbers.
I think that we're seeing truly what Baker Mayfield is.
People love Herbert's potential. He hasn't done it, just like
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Dak hasn't done it. And when you say great in
the regular season, but not great in the playoffs, that's
putting an asterisk on why that might not be a
top ten player. What he does, you got to do
it in the playoffs is even more important in the
playoffs to elevate your game, to be the reason why
your team. I saw Dako head to head with Jordan
Love and the Packers a couple of years ago. That's
more and just Dak vers Jordan Love. Right, it's more
than just himself. But Jordan Love played a lot better
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in that game than Dallas did. The defense and Dak
to a pick six.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
They ran the ball like crazy. The defense gave up
the goods. But I will say for you, okay, give
me your top ten.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
You gave said.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Seven quarterbacks, and then you gave me like another five,
and then he gave Jared.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
He gave Jared, You give Jarreed got Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
There was room for one more. Yeah, I got you, I.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Got Jordan Love put his list back up, even though
it's Unran.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, but he's younger than he's younger than Dak. I
mean they what can't Jordan What can Dak do that
that Jordan Love can do? Show me what Jordan Love
can't do that?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You got three spots left?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Okay, I got jared'sff.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I got Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
That's nine.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I got uh Baker Golf, Jordan Love that's it. Und
I got my boy perty at eleven.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
My final question for you, Logan, if you're the twelfth
best at something like if you're the twelfth best quarterback
in the NFL, is that good enough of the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Should they be satisfied with that?
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Because it's a lot better than what else is out there.
You know, I always say this, Oh, this guy's got
to go. Well, who you replacing them with? I said,
The offense still goes through Dak. He's still a really
good player. We're talking top ten in the world at
your job and being number twelve in the world at
something that gets you fifty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So I'm mad at him.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
You know, if I could be the number twelve quarterback,
I want to be on his desk. I'll be playing still.
So my whole thing is you're number twelve. That's no
shade at you. It just we put them because he's
Dallas quarterback. You don't got to be top ten. He's
just not top ten. He's coming off an injury, he's
going off some down years. Yes, the talent's around him,
but because of those reasons and the lack of playoff performance,
that's why he's not my top ten.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You and Jason mccordy must have gone to the same
business school of football, because I used to bicker with
him about personnel decisions of different teams in the league,
and he would always say to me, who are you
going to replace him with?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And I want to throw him a coffee at him.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And it's so infuriating because I always think there's something
better if you're not satisfied.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But that's just a fans perspective. Good morning football.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So the draft is next week and the Dolphins might
be looking into getting an offensive lineman after the great
toront arms said called it a career last weekend. Armstead
spent twelve seasons in the NFL with both the Dolphins
and the Saints, and he put together quite the resume,
a five time Pro Bowl selection, twenty nineteen Saints Man
of the Year. Plus he's got some speed to the
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big man, and he was on one of NFL Network's
top one hundred lists.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
In the last couple of seasons.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
So we love to see that for Toront, Arms said,
We've loved watching him and now we are going to
enjoy talking to him on Giammphy.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Good morning, Toron, Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's awesome to see you. Congratulations on everything. You're a
week into retirement. What hobbies have you picked up in
the meantime? Bird watching, gardening, golfing, both playing or watching
the Masters over the weekend. What are you filling your
time with now that you're not getting your body right
for the next season.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (18:00):
No, I'm fully embracing the old man life. I'm welcome
a lot, enjoying, enjoying my walking, enjoying, send back, sending back, reading,
just more and more to the quiet simple things that
the quiet simple spoils of life these days, and I'm
enjoying them.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Toron.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I feel like, as someone who retired a year before you,
I feel like as an NFL player that they do
a great job of teaching us how to get in
the league. Obviously college in this draft process, it's up
for the player to stay in the league as long
as you have. But they don't teach you how to
get out of the league. They don't teach you what
life's like after. So tell me how you knew, how
you came to the decision that some of the thoughts
you might have for some other players out there, and
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why you decided to retire.
Speaker 10 (18:39):
Yeah, Logan, it's just still was so many factors for me.
My body, for one, dealing with the knee that is
going on bone. You know, there's nothing left for me
to do to prepare and and to go through another season.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
It would have been extremely, extremely challenging.
Speaker 10 (18:55):
Then in factoring in my kids and my family, just
it's time to just be more present, be more invested
in their lives as they begin their athletic career too.
So many factors that went into it though, and prayed
about it for a long time, thought about it, talked
to the people I needed to talk to. So just
coming to this decision peacefully, man, I'm pretty sure. Not
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pretty sure, I am sure and at peace with my
decision to walk away from the game.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Toron, what's up? Will Blackman?
Speaker 10 (19:22):
Here?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
You are?
Speaker 6 (19:23):
You were three times first Team All swack Man. How
did it feel or did you take a lot of
pride and represent the HBCU for twelve years? Like, how
do you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:31):
For sure, for sure, I wore that that badge with
full honor.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
So many grades that came before me, that that paved
the way to allow the scouts to to come watch
our film down and down in the HPCU circuit man,
and just just to be able to represent all the
all the greats and all the legends that we have
in the NFL history that came from me. It's historic
Black colleges. It's an incredible honor something I do not
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take lightly.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
What's up?
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Tron Netcross here? Believe we played all last year. I
think we won.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
You got to come back now. It's nice to meet you.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
So I see you wearing four to seven to one
at three hundred pounds. It's been over three hundred pounds.
It's been about twelve years since then. One where did
you get the wheels from?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
And two?
Speaker 7 (20:23):
If you were to get on the line today, are
you still running under five seconds?
Speaker 10 (20:31):
First foremost, you know, being being being blessed, you know,
God given talent and ability and putting the work into
my hometown. We were really known for speed back into hockey, Illinois,
small town, but we got a lot of state championships
in track and field, so we're known for speed and
can I run up under five?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Still? That's tough, man. Listen. As you get older, Nick,
you're going to see this.
Speaker 10 (20:54):
I know you about year four or five, things start
to start to change, saying and you got to find
new ways to win. You got to evolve your game.
You learn different takes, niques. Could I run under five seconds?
The world may never know. I'm not doing it. I'm
not doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, since you're not running the forty anymore, it sounds
like you're walking. Are you taking up power walking? Because
this is an event that we see at the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Now and it's it's sweeping that.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh yeah, you got the Bosa brothers with the hips
back and forth like are you are you walking with
the purpose or are you walking for the scenery.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I'm walking with it. I'm walking for the scenery. I'm
making sure I get some some push to it.
Speaker 10 (21:34):
You know, I'm not just you know, walking walking on
the beach, but I'm not doing all the power walking
and I can't do the like the hip shift.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I'm not need So that's that's a little too much.
That's a little too much trying.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
A ton of people, you know, reached out to you
and celebrated your retirement. Who was one of your favorite
former teammates that you heard from and what was the
special message that you got.
Speaker 10 (21:56):
So I actually had a retirement party and I had
when I say, my guy showed up, they and they
really really touched my heart. I feel extremely blessed and
horen't to have Drew Brees, Willie Rove, Cam Jordan mark Ingram,
Teddy Bridgewater, Tyreek Hill, Mike McDaniel, Frank It was, it was,
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It was incredible. It was incredible and just just a
very very touching, touching evening.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
When you announce your retirement. You know, Drew Brees, your quarterback.
You know, he praised you for a lot of leadership,
you know, which is a huge compliment coming from someone
like Drew, Like take us, you know, inside the huddle
to the locker room, Like how would it lift you up,
motivate your teammates?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Drew was incredible.
Speaker 11 (22:39):
Man.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
His preparation alone, Like you see somebody that that left
no stone unturned every week, no matter what our offensive
production was the week before, Like, he still committed the.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Same level of preparation time and for the energy.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
So just watching him prepare the way that he did,
like you didn't want to let this got down. You
wanted to be and do everything possible to go out
there and perform for him and be productive.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
So it's just just watching him and other leaders that
we had.
Speaker 10 (23:07):
Man, I learned, I studied, I paid attention to those guys,
and for me, I just always wanted the betterment of
my team, Like just wanted the guys to improve to
daily progress, to really have that full investment because we
are a short winded to do this.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I played for twelve years, but that's a short span
of my life, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10 (23:23):
So I wanted to maximize that, maximize my potential and
had that full investment.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Toron, as a fellow broadcast who can't classmate of mind,
I know you want to get to broadcasting and teach
people about life, especially in the trenches. So what's something
about playing the old line mentality wise or something you
can bring to the screen and maybe tell the fans
at home what a twelve years at the old line means.
Speaker 10 (23:43):
Yeah, I would love to get more into a detailed
space and we're talking to trenches. Get more into the technique, assignments,
hand placement, leverage, you know what I'm trying to do
as far as manipulating with my eyes and first step
pre snap, dummy calls and things like that where I'm
making a run call but i know it's a play action,
but I'm getting a reaction from.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
The linebackers they hear me. I'm making sure they.
Speaker 10 (24:05):
Hear me, just those small details and just give people
more insight and a little bit more of an education.
I feel like as a fan base, we know a
lot about quarterback play. You know a lot about the
skill positions, but it's time we learn a little bit
more about what's going on in there with the big dogs.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
There you go, Well, I appreciate that tidbit, you know.
So anytime I hear alignments making some run call or
something I'm gonna, you know, make sure to let my
play know it might not only be true. I might
you might catch a little slack for this question, But
who are your top three teammates you've played with over
your twelve years.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
God, come on, bro.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
I was going to ask you your favorite and I
was like you a little.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
Wigging on, ah Man, that that is is nearly impossible.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Really, I would go.
Speaker 10 (24:53):
Goodness, gracious, top three teammates who were the first.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Three to arrive at your retirement party. Go with that.
Speaker 10 (25:01):
First three. Drew Drew was there early, which was surprising,
Breeze pulled up early to a pulled up early and
I'll say, Robert Hunt, Robert Hunt.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's a good liss, Tron.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Are you going to miss young players trying to talk
smack with you in the locker room like neck Cross.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I don't rage with you today on the shout look.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I love it. I love it because I get talking
with the best of them. I love it.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Tron.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You're a gem and we hope to have you at
the table here sometime as you enter into the next
phase of your life and career. Congratulations on an awesome
dozen years in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Good morn football.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
He can rip it, he can pull it, and he's
gonna do all those things in the NFL next season.
It's old miss quarterback Jackson, darr what's going on?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Jackson?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
More to you dark, good morning. I'll hi y'all doing.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
We're awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
But perhaps in this moment in time, one week until
the NFL Draft, how are you?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
This is quite the process. It's quite the time for
you and your life just high holding up with all this.
Speaker 12 (26:15):
Yeah, I feel like I've had like a whirlwind of
emotions a little bit, going from place to place, honestly,
from like coast to coast really, you know, just visiting
teams and you know, having little workouts and whatnot. So
I'm really wishing the draft was like tomorrow so we could,
you know, see where we're all going and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
But you know, trying to just enjoy the process.
Speaker 12 (26:33):
And my family has been great, you know, a support
system around me, so you know, they've helped guide me through.
Speaker 13 (26:38):
All right, let's talk about the process for you. I
went back to an old high school EVL I had
on you and at the time it was Fordam, it
was Louisiana Lafaette, Like you weren't this biggest star that
you are now in advance the draft. Can you share
the belief system that you had in yourself at that
point and now where we sit today. How that has
become your reality.
Speaker 12 (26:57):
Yeah, it's definitely kind of crazy to look back at
the journey, and like you said, you know, I remember
being in that headspace when I didn't have a lot,
and you know, at one point, you know, honestly, I
was thinking I was just going to have to go
play baseball because things just weren't working out as much
on the football side of things.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
So quite honestly, it's never really been a doubt. You know,
this has been something that I've dreamed of my whole life.
Speaker 12 (27:16):
And I remember going back to preschool and writing down
what do you want to be one day?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
And you know, I want to be a Super Bowl
winning quarterback.
Speaker 12 (27:21):
So didn't really quite expect anything less than what it
is now, but really just grateful and humble for the opportunity.
Speaker 11 (27:27):
Jackson Tony Jefferson safety for the Chargers. You play for
one of the top play callers in college football with
Lane Kiffin, and you've been quoted in comparing him to
Yoda from Star Wars. Yeah, how was coach Kiffen? How's
he helped you like mold you into the quarterback yard today?
And like what about him is like your style? Of coach.
Speaker 12 (27:48):
Yeah, I think it's just really cool to look back on,
you know, kind of our journey that we've had together,
from the moment that he recruited me to going from
season to season. And I think one thing that really
intrigued me when I committed to him was just, you know,
how he was able to adapt his offenses around his
talent and his quarterback. And you can see it through
the three seasons that I played with him, like each
year the offense changed just a little bit and we
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added new things, you know, got rid of different tendencies,
and I think that that's really unique for a coach,
and you know, really, you know, it is a tribute
to him and his knowledge of how he's able to
understand the game and really coordinate and pair an offense
around his quarterback and the talent that he has around it.
And you know, I love my time there, and me
and Coach Kiff have such a great relationship on and
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off the field, and just really grateful.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
For my time Jackson.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
A couple of years back, I was on the SEC
on CBS sideline. It was before you got to Ole Miss,
and I had an ole Miss Alabama game assignment. It
was it was in Tuscaloosa. Lane Kiffin comes out of
the locker room. He's got to do the pre game
pre kick interview with me, and instead of answering whatever
question I laid out for him at the time, he
instead decides to lay a one liner down and toss
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his headset as it happens, and get.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Your popcorn ready.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
The game didn't go great for Old Miss, but it
was a classic landkiff In moment and that he wanted
to make this an electric feeling for Ole Miss. What
is a one liner or a lesson that you learned
from Lane that you will take into the NFL that
has shaped you as a quarterback?
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Geez, that's kind of hard to think of just one liners.
But you know, there's definitely a lot of things that
I'll take from him.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You know.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
Really, if you ever ask him a question, he always
just says maybe, which I think that's one thing that
I kind of like to use now, you know, and
people kind of get confused by it because you.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Know, you never really know what he's thinking.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
He's famously noncommittal.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
Yeah, no doubt. I mean, you guys know him just
as much as I do. I mean, you never know
what's going on inside of that. So you know, I'm
going to take a lot from my time playing with him,
you know, off the field too, just the time that
we spent and you know, the bond that we had
was special.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You keep mentioning off the field sounds like you guys
have played pickle ball together.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
What's that like?
Speaker 12 (29:52):
Yeah, you know, we actually we've had I think in
the past three days we had like nine matchups and
he has He's only won one game. So I think
he was probably excited that I left Oxford because now
I can try to want to get a win.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Well, you there is no maybe in the fact that
you were about to get paid like an NFL player.
What's going on with your partnership with Crocs as you
entered the next phase of your life.
Speaker 12 (30:15):
Yeah, Crocs has been you know, I've been riding with
Crocs since I was young. Whether it was like me
going to AAU basketball tournaments back in the day or whatever.
It was like it was such a comforting footwear and whatnot.
So it's you know, it's helped me and in my recovery,
it's helped me in like little pregame fits and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
So you know, really.
Speaker 12 (30:33):
Happy to be partnered with them, and it definitely hits
close to home with how much that I've used them
in the past.
Speaker 13 (30:38):
Okay, so you grew up in Utah, you're there today
right now.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
You just got back home.
Speaker 13 (30:42):
Then he came out to USC and then you went
down to where Jamie spent a lot of her career
in the sc C. Man, what was that league like
in terms of preparing you for the moment that you're
about to enter in the NFL.
Speaker 12 (30:56):
Jeez, I feel like it's definitely prepared me the best
way that I could be prepared. You know, for the
longest time, you know, the SEC has been the best
conference in allege football, so you know, each and every
week you're going up getting the best competition and the
best coaching so as well as the best game day environments.
So you know, I think with all those factors involved,
I definitely feel like it's going to prepare me. But yeah,
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the football is just different in the South. I don't
really know how to describe it. You kind of have
to you have to live it or see it to
really understand it. But I was blessed to have, you know,
my time there, and wouldn't want to spend my time
anywhere else, that's for sure.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
Draft expert Daniel Jeremiah the Goat said he loves loves
the way you play the game, your ability to create
off the script plays, execute the design runs. Do you
feel that's something you offer to teams and you're bringing
like a different aspect to the table for other QB prospects.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Yeah, I just think that I'm a versatile player.
Speaker 12 (31:49):
I feel like I can just do a lot of
different things and which kind of makes me unique. Especially
I don't think a lot of people even talk about it,
but you know, I'm going to be the youngest quarterback
in the NFL next year, so I'm just going to
continue to grow and get better each and every year.
And so I'm still developing, and you know, I think that,
you know, my ceiling is really high. So I'm really
excited to get with the team, be coached, you know,
as hard as possible, and continue to develop my skill
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set to make me the best player that I could
be for a team.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Jackson, I'm always fascinated by football players because you guys
go out there and you play this physical, intense game.
Then you have these hobbies like golf or fishing, for example,
that takes an immense amount of patience and you have
to keep your body still, You have to sit for a.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Very long time.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
You are an avid outdoorsman and fishing is your game.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
What is the bigger thrill?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Catching a big fish or throwing a big touchdown pass?
Speaker 12 (32:40):
It's just be real, like, there's nothing that compares to
a touchdown pass.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
I mean, I love fishing, but there's nothing that compares.
Speaker 12 (32:45):
To that feeling now that Yeah, that was a good
that was a great feeling.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
That's a lake trout.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It's a casual lake trout I think. I mean is yeah,
catch and release? What are we doing with that? Oh?
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Absolutely?
Speaker 12 (32:59):
You know those fish can get like really old into
like they're wow, thirties to fifties, So you know you
definitely catch and release those because there's such prehistoric animals
and definitely got to respect them in that regard.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Okay, okay, here's the question.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You know, we got all these really weird quarterback warm
up drills or the guys to do in the deck
and like with the hips, do you ever do like
the fish and the rich like, is that something how
you warm up your shoulder?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Maybe? Is that like your quarterback warm up.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
No, but maybe I could try it.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You know, I think we're onto something.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
You showed me how to do that. Again, I definitely
take some note.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I see what you're trying to do, and I'm not
going to do it, but I.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Think you definitely showed it and you can make a
name for yourself. I'm just kicking ideas around the table time.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
You know how big it is for the game day outfits.
You know, it's very important. IG That's that's where we
see who's really balling with the fits and fashion. I
hear you put your your fashion together before the season.
Tell me about that process.
Speaker 12 (33:53):
Yeah, I think it really just starts from my mom.
My mom, she's kind of implemented me into the fashion
world since I was young, and you know, you know,
when I was like in elementary school, she was the
one that was like laying out outfits for me. So,
you know, I was just kind of having that relationship
and whatnot, and then being able to go and.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Have the Walk of Champions at Ole Miss.
Speaker 12 (34:12):
You definitely gave us some opportunities to kind of show
and express, you know, kind of the taste that we
like in the fashion world. So it was definitely fun
because that also brought us closer and you know, having
content communication throughout the off season and putting those fits together.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
So it was fun.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Okay, So in that spirit, what's up with the juice hat?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
What's the origination there?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
It's just that right, I see.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
All I can think of as juice and bling when
I look at Jackson Dart Right now, Jackson, this as
you said, you where's the draft is tomorrow? You want
to know what your future holds. This might be your
last opportunity to speak to GMS or coaches. What's the
most most important thing you want people to know about
the Jackson Dark quarterback experience?
Speaker 12 (34:49):
I think the biggest thing is you're going to get,
you know, somebody who cares about every little thing when
he steps into the office or when he steps into
a room with his teammates.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
That's one thing that you know can really separate great.
Speaker 12 (35:00):
Players from just good and average players is just you know,
your accountability, your self discipline and consistency and everything that
you do. Everybody at that level is going to have
a special and unique traits of talent. But you know
what is it that pushes you and makes you even better?
Think that it's my work ethic and how I'm able
to lead a group of men. And at the same time,
you know, I'm ultimate competitors, so you know, I would
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never want to go against me.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
And you know I know that teams, you know that's
something they've always said.
Speaker 12 (35:26):
But I'm gonna do whatever it takes to win, and
you know I'm gonna win a super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Tony is very impressed by that. That's a great, great approach.
Speaker 11 (35:34):
Yeah, I like this guy. Besides your art, Bro, you're
you're you're good.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I like he's got the juice. All right, Jackson's art. Everybody,
we appreciate you. We can't wait to hear your name
come back on GMTP when you know who you're planning for.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Best of luck, say healthy Jackson.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Yeah, thank you guys for having me think about.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
That warm up cast to release that ball.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
It's trying to do it again.
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