December 19, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Peter Schrager, Kyle Brandt, and Akbar Gbajabiamila answering Throwdown Thursday questions - will you be paying closer attention to Michael Penix Jr. or Aaron Rodgers during the final stretch of the NFL season? Has New York or Atlanta had a bigger influence over the music industry? Packers DT Kenny Clark joins the show and talks about their upcoming matchup vs. the Saints and how their defense is coming together. Later, they examine how the Los Angeles Chargers can get back on track vs. the Denver Broncos.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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It's Thursday, Decemmer nineteenth. I'm Jamie at all. This is
offwar Bosjabi and mellow. Peter Schrager, Kyle Brandt, Guys, how
is New York doing this time of year?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
So festive, so lovely? How are you guys feeling out
there cold? What do you think?
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Peter?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
New York's great.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
It's cold, but obviously the holiday season, there's no better
place to be. The tree lighting ceremony was a couple
of weeks ago, and now everybody's coming in and enjoying
a festive time. And Jamie the coolest part about it.
While everyone's out in the streets and enjoying Christmas in
New York, we'll be on our couches watching football.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's what we do.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yeah, it's a great gift the NFL has given us.
It's football tonight, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, next Saturday, next Sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So great.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It's overdose on football. Been quite this Thursday too, Next Thursday, Peter,
I'm so sorry and this day so sorry to the
Prime Video crew.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We love you. Let's look at us.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
A Milkin.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Letting me exactly.
Speaker 7 (01:24):
That's the football game we had. Lord's a leaping.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's great, Mack said, dancing.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yes, here we go.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It's Thursday. We had Peter.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Schragger's Trivia earlier and now it's time for throw down Thursday.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Kyle Brandt once said there was an executive at the
NFL who was this is their favorite segment on our show,
the second hour of a Thursday, top of the hour,
Let's go. It's been quite the season for Aaron Rodgers
and the Jets.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I was waiting for a throat on graphic to happen.
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
The Jets were eliminated. There was a lot of me
on camera. The Jets were eliminated from the playoffs early
and now stand with a.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Four and ten record. Rogers who is everywhere right now?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Especially if you're unloading The Netflix app spoke to the
media yesterday about his plans for the future and whether
or not he'd welcome a return.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
To the Medlands.
Speaker 8 (02:13):
I'm going to take take some time after the year
unless you know you're released right away. But I'll still
take some time whether or not I want to play.
There's a lot of reasons why this would be a great,
great opportunity, but you know, I'm gonna see what happens.
There's you know, a lot of things yet to happen.
They got to hire a GM, got to hire a
head coach, and then you know, whether or not I'm
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part of conversation or whether or not they move on.
You know, whatever happens, I'll be taking my time and
thinking about my future.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
It is mind boggling to think that, amongst many other
decisions the Jets have to make, the quarterback might be
at the third spot because they have hirings to do
up top, GM coach and so on and so forth.
Throw it down Thursday. Is this let's pit the final
weeks of the NFL season against two quarterbacks, one old
one yet Aaron Rodgers Michael Pennix Junior.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
We'll start for the Falcons this weekend.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Who's final weeks of this season? Are you going to
be watching closer? Peter First Rogers or Michael Pennix Jr.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I'm going with a rod I am fascinated with how
this thing plays out. If you had asked me three
weeks ago, I would say it's likely on I don't
see a situation where Rogers a would maybe want to
return and b where the Jets want him back. And
then the last two weeks Rogers has played fantastic football.
He's getting healthier. And suddenly you look at this and
you're like, well, what's the alternative. We're not going to
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get one of the top picks in the draft, so
it's not Shador Sanders a cam Ward. You're then looking
at like, all right, we could still draft a quarterback,
but maybe we keep Rogers around. He's already going to
be on the payroll. And then you look at how
DeVonta Adams.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Has played, and these guys feel like they're just getting
it going.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Could you roll back Rogers and Adams for next year?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You can.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You can.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Now, all of this is conjuncture because to Aaron's point,
they don't have a GM and they don't have a
head coach, and those.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Guys should be the one making the decision. That should
not be a Woody Johnson decision. Woody Johnson should not
be sitting in.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
His office in Florence park Or in West Palm where he.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Is now, and like he should not be.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
The one saying Rogers is back and we're gonna pay
Garrett Wilson, We're gonna pay. They have to get the
GM situation right, They have to get the coach right,
and then those guys have to talk and they have
to decide whether or not they want Rodgers back. The
final three weeks, Rogers can put it on tape. He
has an opportunity to make the case and say, you
know what, don't get rid of me just yet. I
still got something to give and maybe, just maybe I
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wasn't healthy until.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
This point in the season. Yeah, I think you know
his health.
Speaker 9 (04:41):
You know, this this nice spike that we're seeing out
of Aaron Rodgers. Michael Pennix on the other side, Peter,
you know, you look at the young star getting his opportunity.
But I agree with you. I think it is I
think it has to be Aaron Rodgers. And for me,
I think it has a lot to do with the
fact that could this be it?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You know, Like for.
Speaker 9 (05:01):
Aaron Rodgers, I've been watching his documentary and you know,
he's a very interesting person and I'm getting to learn
a lot about Aaron Rodgers off the field and just
to kind of the way his mind works. And but
one of the things that I found fascinating was, you know,
his processing returning and his workout and his mobility and
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his admission to his age and you know, feeling it
and all of that, and you know, you know, in
the third third episode he kind of moves to it.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
A little bit. Maybe this is it.
Speaker 9 (05:33):
And if that's the case, then I'm watching to see
how this ends. Because no matter how you feel about
Aaron Rodgers, what a career he's had, and I'd like
to see those type of things. I'm one of those
dudes who like to see history and I appreciated it,
you know, And maybe he gets the bug bug, the
bug of greatness where you're so intoxicated by greatness you
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try to see if you can do it again because
you think that you're still the person you work twenty
years ago. But I'm gonna go Aaron Rodgers in this one.
He's the one that I'd definitely be watching.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Give me Pennix, let's go baby, let lock and Low.
Give me this nice lefty rookie lighting things up. I've
seen a lot of Aaron Rodgers play football, not only
this year. I've been watching Aaron Rodgers for twenty seasons.
I love it. It's been some of the greatest football
memories as a spectator I have. I think I'm good.
I have a full tank of Aaron Rodgers. I want
a fresh Michael Pennix. Who is this only rookie who's
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been sitting around, waiting, waiting, waiting. Now he's going to
get put in the game. Maybe he's fantastic, Maybe he
completely lights it up. He just looks so cool with
the lefty delivery in the dome, And honestly, I think
it's kind of I like that Costco story. I think
there's something humbling about that. The fact that he was
there with his lady friend and they're getting dollar fifty
hot dogs.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's great.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
And if he blows up this year, he'll have some
sort of Costco endorsement. He'll become the face of Costco
and he'll be the Costco quarterback. And that's relatable. I
think Jamie said it perfectly. The fact that that guy
is there in the third week in December, on a
weekday in the evening, that is nuts.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That is an all out engage.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Eight blitz like he can stand up to pressure the
lines alone. You have to pay with the debit card.
You have that giant palette thing. It's hell on Earth
walking in there right now.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And he did it.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
No big deal, I am. I know what we're going
to see from Rogers. I think at this point, I
have no idea we're gona get from Penix, but I'm
excited about it. It's like, let's make a deal. Give
me curtain number three. I've seen the first two curtains
a million times.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Making admission Jamie, Yeah, I want to make it an admission.
I've loved in New York City for twenty years. Yes,
I grew up in the Jersey Shore. We had Sam's
and BJ. I have never been in a costco before,
is that right? I have never been in a costco before.
I have never stepped foot in the costco. I have
never shopped at that store. I've shopped at big box stores,
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but I have never been to a costco. So Michael
Pennock saying that I'm fascinated and I might want to
go visit one and try one of Oh wow.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
What do you do when you need six years with
the trash bags?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You go to one of the other ones to.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Go to the book.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
This time of year, you can get you can get.
You can literally get a baby crib at a Costco.
You can get a coffin at a Costco. So from
life Walk to death they sell coffins because if you
need a coffin, you might as well.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Get a deal they want.
Speaker 9 (08:13):
Hey, Peter, I don't know if you like to snack,
but they have great samples. You can sample just about
anything at Costco. You gotta go, majic.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Okay, the samples a lot, I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
We give a lot of editorial suggestions NFL plus Schrager
and a Costco. I mean there's another one like we
just keep giving these free ideas.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And also, Michael Pennick shere is a young guy. I'm
not sure if he has any kids yet.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
But if you don't and you're there with your gold,
why are you at a Costco six days before Christmas?
What do you need a mass quantity of? It's stressing
us all out. The fact that this young quarterback for
the Atlanta Falcons just of milling around with a hot
dog and a paper sleeve at a Costco. Why we've
got deaf on the show to ask me these questions.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Okay with Michael Penky.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Now one more thing on Costco.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It was a great elucid point
you just made, Peter. How did you not go to
Costco during the AJ and Big Justice this boom when
they once that was like going to Graceland at that
point for New Jersey, it's like now where they were
bringing the boom?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
How did you survive it?
Speaker 6 (09:11):
I saw I saw the NFL's using them for the
Netflix promo.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Okay, like they're flying a little close to the sun
right now. They were charming at first. I think I
might be out on a J and Big John. I
did a lot of a lot of people. Those your guys,
it was shoot when they were like small time. Now
they might be too big time. Don't worry that Bobby
Alcohol what's her name?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, like, oh no, don't now.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
She's now she's a big star. And it's like, all right,
what about the Rizzler? I'd be out him.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Now that our phones are always listening to us, your
Instagram is just going to.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Be Kirkland hacks.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Just why it's gonna be all the videos Michael Pennix.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Kirkland jelly.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
So you know that kirk ran belly.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, big old box with a black jar.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Kirkland.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Don't forget about the peanut butter pretzel too.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Oh those are real good.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh I hit those.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Yeah, yeah, Kirkland, that's my flavor town.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That's great.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I just want Shregs rolling around on one of those
palettes when Kyle's pushing look at that.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Look at that. I'm telling you, NFL plus, here we go.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Michael Penis Junior said, to face the giants this weekend,
our throwdown, our second throat on question becomes this who
has had the bigger impact on the music industry?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
New York City or Atlanta? O.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I like that we used the Ramones photo.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I like that. That's deep cut, that's Nas and Ramones.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
You know, obviously I'm a New Yorker, but I did
spend many years in my life in Atlanta. I went
to college in Atlanta, and I was there at the
boom when like Outcast and Ludacris and Usher, We're all
coming out in the early two thousands and so so
deaf was everything. But I gotta go with New York
because of the wide breadth of different types of musical
talent that we've seen over the years, Billy Joel, because
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Billy Joel's like the voice.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Of Long Island and Oyster Bay, and that counts as
New York. It does.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
So you go from Billy Joel, which is awesome, and
then you can all say, Okay, we got the piano man,
the entertainer and all this stuff. But also representing New
York could be my man fifty cent Curtis Jackson.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
We get him as well.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
So fifty cent and Billy Joel are two very different.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Types of artists. But you've got that.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
But then you've got like early two thousand's rock scene
that like meet me in the back, you know, in
the back, come through the bath, their window, whatever it is,
the Strokes, like that whole scene, the yeah yeah yeahs
and the Strokes and LCD sound system, like all those guys.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Those guys are there.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Then you go deep cut and it's like Simon and
Garfunkel are from New York, right, how about Stephen Sondheim.
Speaker 10 (11:41):
Sohnheim rock people about every Broadway score that Andrew Lloyd
Webber didn't all right, So you go with Simon and
Garfunkel to Stephen Sondheim and then i end look at Sonheim,
James Bond.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Only football show ever to show Sondheim.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
And then we end it with the guys from Shao
Lyin and you end it with Staten Island's own Wu
Tang Clan and they also so like from Sonda time
to Shout Lynn.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It's an old dirty mastered and method Man and the
whole crew Hello.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Ghosts face Like, I think that's my case.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
The pictures tell the story.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
We go through decades and decades of different genres.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
New York has not only the top end quality but
also the bench.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
So I'm gonna go at the depth on that New
York wins from my pie.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Yeah, I'm tagging team. I'm tag team in on that one.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
New York.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
It's the birthplace, right. You think about the Harlem Renaissance,
you think about Cold Training, you think about Billie Holiday,
you think about even Bebop two, all of that, I
mean originated from New York. But then when you get
into the hip hop era in the seventies, come on,
grand Master Flash. I mean that's where you know he's
considered the grandfather the like of hip hop and kind
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of that maturation when you go into Biggie and what
Biggie did for for New York. So many cool nas
we could go with. The list goes on and on,
and no shade to Atlanta because Atlanta they had their time.
Atlanta definitely had the time. Like you talked about out Cast,
Ti Usher, those guys, I mean, you talk about, you know,
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Southern rap, you talk about crunk music, they put it.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They put Southern music on the map.
Speaker 9 (13:17):
I kind of want to think about it, even in
the hip hop R and B gang. I think about
it kind of like the Celtics. The Celtics were the dynasty, right,
and that's what New York is. They're the dynasty. They're
like the Celtics. And then you think about that one
little blip of time when the Houston Rockets had their
their moment in the nineties, that's what Atlanta was. So
they had their moment, their little blip, and then it's
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been it's been New York ever since.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
All right two for New York.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
So this is why I was put on this planet
to be the face and voice of Atlanta music. Look
Southern hip hop, and I'll here listen, I understand the
South got something to say. I understand that completely, and
I love that moment, and we've had Big Boy on
the show and all over the years. I have to focus.
I have to stay legitimate to myself. When I was
turning twelve years old, I had a birthday party and
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your parents say, what do you want to do for
your berth You want to go to the roller rink,
you want to go bowling and all that, and the
invitation went out, and the invitation was to party at
our house in the backyard. And it encouraged all the attendees,
all the other sixth grade boys to show up with
their blue jeans on backwards, because at the time, they said,
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making making and making a minute Mac doesn't making it
making it and making a making of a Mac. Chris bleeping' cross, Peter,
you show me Billy Joe his jeans on backwards, then
we'll have something.
Speaker 11 (14:33):
Go.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
Don't see our garfunkle dressing up like that. Us cull
Us mac Daddy Kelly and Chris Daddy mac Smith. And
it was so cool if you were a kid at
the time, because they were also kids and they're out
there blowing it up. They had a music video where
they're driving a car they weren't even old enough to
drive and it was just you didn't even understand what
they were saying. Then making a mag it was just awesome.
It was so cool, and they would play it at parties.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
They have something called like miss the bus, missed the
bus awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Warm it up, Chris, I'm a bab up shoo. That's
what I was born too.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
We used to show up to school with our jeans
on backwards, and it was so cool. It's ridiculous because
the fly and the buttoner in the back and it
doesn't work, and you can't if you have to go, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Work and your pants come down. But for the hot,
hot minute, you turn.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Around your starter and you'd have like a Florida Marlin
starter or San Jose Sharks or Shore of the Hornets
Charlotte Hornets with.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Your jeans on backs.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
I had a whole birthday party where like you basically
weren't allowed in unless your jeans were back for it,
and no one even tried to make them forward. It
was awesome. That was a hugely influential there. Atlanta, Chris Cross, Atlanta.
Jermaine Dupree, producer of It, Chris Cross. I love those guys.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I know they're no longer with us one of them.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I believe.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
I don't want to disrespect them of you, but just
I just love I love everything they stand for.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
You know what, I gotta get you props on that
one man. First off, in that era, I didn't even realize,
like there wasn't a regional thing. I didn't even realize
they were from Atlanta, and that was a big one.
We all grew up to that one in that era.
So sometimes to dye, but they can't rhyme like this. Still,
that was good.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
The Sprite commercial Banger, the mac Dad will make it,
the Daddy Matt, they'll both make you jump.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Kyle, your parents are just appreciative that you didn't want
to have that party in a bowling alley, because that's
a free birthday right there. Show up to our backyard
with your pants on backwards.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So free it it's great.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
And you know all My last thing on Criss Cross.
There was a video game for Criss Cross. I think
it was like for the Sega CD. Looked at it's
one of the worst video games ever.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Fine, it's fine.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I hope they just got to check forward or something
like that. But it was a wildly terrible video that's
just a little Coda.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
It was called Crisscross Extreme.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I don't know what we probably got to get out.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I love Criss Cross, Ian Rappaport, welcome into GMFB respectfully,
respectfully when I say, I don't really care about Patrick
Mahomes or t J. Watt right now, I just need
to know your answer to Atlanta or New York City
music scene.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Wow, I have so many thoughts.
Speaker 12 (16:53):
First of all, the Crisscross reference is a good one,
discovered by the way by Jermaine dupri really one of
the all time hip hop grades. One of the reasons
why the Atlanta rap scene is basically what it is.
I mean, it's I think everyone has been where Kyle was,
which is you go to a party or whatever. For us,
it was you go to a social at Camp. Greylock
and Josh Glass and Greg Dodell were dressed as Criss Cross,
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and all the girls thought it was really really cool
because they had their genes on backwards, they had their
jerseys on backwards, the whole it was a whole thing.
I used to love Crisscross, Mad Respect for Atlanta and
Welcome to Atlanta remix is one of my favorite hip
hop songs of all time.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Definitely in the top ten.
Speaker 12 (17:31):
That said, I want to call back to a segment previous,
our good friend Peter Schrager was talking about Michael Pennix
and he was explaining Michael Pennix and the role he
steps into, and he says, Michael Pennix, the world is
yours and that really struck me to the core because
I talk about River Bett was everything right now is
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open for him. And the fact that Schreeger mentioned it
just casually dropping the name of one of the best
NOS songs of all time off the greatest hip Hop
one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time, Illmatic,
just goes to show you how much New York rap
has permeated our culture, football or otherwise, like he just
said it without even thinking of the fact that the
influence was Nasu. By the way, I saw on concert
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with Wu Tang a couple of months ago, blew the
doors off the place, especially Wu Tang.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The energy is incredible. So that really goes to show
you just how how.
Speaker 12 (18:25):
Much the New York rap scene is our our wallpaper, right.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I mean, you guys know, I love.
Speaker 12 (18:30):
Biggie, our Red Rocks, Rockefeller, I love nas I love
Wu tag all of it. But this is our soundtrack,
this is our wallpaper. And the fact that just permeates
our conversation without even thinking about it just speaks to
how much a part of our lives.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
New York rap is all right, sheet in perfect.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Our next guest tailing from the Inland Empire's the Packers
many for the Walter An NFL Man of the Year.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
This is Kenny Clark. Kenny, get in here.
Speaker 11 (19:07):
What's what's going on?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Kenny? We love having you on GMFB.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
We just got done arguing about the music scene, the
rap scene between New York City and Atlanta. What say
you about where you hail from? Just a quick thought
or two on why LA should represent Yeah, you know.
Speaker 11 (19:25):
We got the biggest represent in l A right now,
you know Kswick right now. And then you know, you
can't forget about the you know, the Ice Chubes, the
OA W A C. You know those guys New Pop.
You know what I'm saying, we got we got a
lot of rappers out there.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Those one name references to musicians. It's like when you say,
you know, like the Packers, like they're representing in the NFC.
I attempted to do something there you're playing the Saints
on Monday night.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
What's going on with.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
This defense and how badly does this team want to
come together down the stretch and what characteristics does that
mean for you guys as you enter potential postseason play.
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Yeah, this huge game this week. You know, we got
to just keep doing what we're doing, hold each other accountable,
and you know, just is working, you know, day in
and day out. You know, we've been doing a lot
of great things and improving East and every game of
been doing a great job. But our turnovers and all
that kind of stuff, stopping to run and getting guys
in past Russ situations and drop back situations and being
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able to rest the passer and Bliss and Presserman all
that kind of stuff. So it's been it's been great
and we've been continuously getting better and we got to
just keep doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Kenny, we love having you on the show.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
You're a longtime friend of the show and one of
the great guys in the NFL. There's so many new
faces on that Packers defense. On Sunday night, Edgar and Cooper,
a rookie was flying all over the field, had an interception,
had a big play, and of course Evan.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Williams the other rookie.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
But I want to ask about the newest face, the
defensive coordinator and what he's done. Jeff Hafley comes from
Boston College. He's now the d C for the Packers.
First year coach for you guys. What has he done
to help transform this d defense and everything.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
Just it's just a whole new mentality here. You know.
We we we pride ourselves on defense, and we talk
about all the time just making this organization a defensive organization,
and we take it serious and uh, you know, we
work for it every single day. We just we push
each other and uh, you know that's the that's the
main key, you know, Halthlete, he's a great coach. That's
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a great job, you know, with pressuring and and listening
to his players and all that kind of stuff, and uh,
you know, he just allows us to just go out
there and uh, you know, go to work.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Kenny, you're up for the Walter Peyton Man of the
Year Award. It's a really really big honor. I just
think it's so cool. It's towards the end of the season.
Now you're tired, it's getting cold outside. Would be easy
to just sit indoors and do nothing when you're not
at the facility, yet you're still out there in the
community making a difference. Why is that important to you?
And what are you the most proud of that you've done.
Speaker 11 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean it's an honor, you know what I'm saying,
And you know it's it's important to get back. I
just know, you know, when I was little, I didn't
have nobody to come up to my school or you know,
old camps and all that kind of stuff for me,
And you know, I know what that would have did
did for me as a kid. So you know, just
for me to go back into communities and show them that,
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you know, I said, in these safe seats and all
that kind of stuff, and for them to see my face,
you know, it's huge for me. You know, it's huge
for me. I know it does a lot for those kids.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Kenny.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
It's really cool that you took something from your childhood
and you apply it to making the Green Bay community better.
I know the Packers and everyone that lived there appreciate it. Kenny,
Stay healthy, stay well. Happy holidays to you, Good luck
on Monday, and congratulations with again I'm being in a
Walter Payton NFL manity.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Or award of money.
Speaker 11 (22:46):
I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
See Kenny all right.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Time for tie Tackles presented by Tiede Naturally. The last
time we saw the Chargers, they fell with the Bucks.
It was a brutal loss, forty to seventeen. Tampa Bay
came in here and rolled up five hundred yards of
offense right across the street at SOFI Stadium. Baker Mayfield
through for four touchdown passes, two of those to Mike Evans.
Buffs looked awesome. That's not the point though. They got
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back into the win column. But the Chargers go against
the Broncos tonight.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
How do they do that for themselves?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
The Chargers are going to have to clean it up
on defense. Can they do it? We are going to
find out tonight. We are just hours away from kickoff
Broncos Chargers right in our backyard. Peter, how does one
get back on track? Do you feel for the Chargers
and what kind of mojo would you hope to see
from this team down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Last week was embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
They give up five hundred yards of offense at the
number one defense in the league. I went through the
schedule earlier in the week.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
They've only had.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
One good win all season against a competitive team, and
that's the Broncos. Tonight with me a major statement at home,
get the job done and.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Stop the bleeding. Stop the bleeding. A tough loss to
the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
And then of course a horrible loss to the Buccaneers. Chargers, Harball,
this is why they brought you in. Win tonight, take
care of business and pet your division rable Broncos say.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It any better than Peter just did.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
It's Harbaugh, Harbor.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
We could sit here and sing about A.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
JK.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Dobbin's injury, and I think it does make a difference,
and that was really their identity offensively. But come on now,
this December, everybody's got the injury they can point to.
When you have those injuries and you have that calendar
where it is, you look at the head coach and
they stand up strong on top of the mountain and say,
we're gonna get this game home, home, home against a
rookie quarterback. We got to have this game, Chargers, otherwise
we're hovering over five hundred and the season getting away
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from us. They need it way way more than Denver,
not just in the standings, in the optics between the Ears.
If Chargers don't show up tonight, it's like, what are
we doing with this team this year?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I hate this.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
It is this is a big one for them to
show to show up, and I think it's going to
have to happen right here. Defensively and being able to
apply pressure to bow Nicks, we saw this, this collapse
so to speak, so to speak for bow Nicks in
this last game, in his last game, and we saw
the interceptions, and we know that defensively the Chargers, they've
been carried by their defense, and so I'm looking for
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them to fill in the gap for where they don't have,
what they don't have in the run game, what they
don't have, or what's inconsistent in their passing game. The Chargers,
this is a seating opportunity too, to be able to
situate themselves in the playoffs so they can make a
run for it right now, because there's some deficit that
is costing this team real opportunities.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Both of these defenses are tied for allowing just seventeen
points sixty four points per game this season. The defenses
are crazy on both sides of the wall. Peter, can
you speak to I was just thinking about Sean Payton
and what we saw from him last year and how
fourteen fifteen months ago he's sitting in a parking lot
in Denver, in a outside of a sushi restaurant, wondering
what brings him joy in football anymore. I would assume
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he's in pretty good spirits now with this team, this quarterback,
but also why has this become a Sean Payton team?
Speaker 6 (25:57):
If you want to know where Sean Payton's had at,
let me take you through the process of how this
game is on Thursday night this week. This game was
supposed to be a Sunday game, Brown's Bengals supposed to
be Thursday night. Amazon asked the league, can we can
we flex out of that? Can we please not have
Brown's Bengals on a Thursday night when either team is relevant?
And the league said, We're sorry, there's no other options.
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The only option would be Broncos Chargers. But the Broncos
already played a road Thursday night game against the Saints.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We can't ask them to do a second one.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
In fact, the league has laws saying you can't play
two road Thursday night games, so We're sorry. They said,
we'll run it by Sean Payne. Champagne said, bring it.
We'll do the road Thursday night game.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Bring it, don't wave the rules. Bring it.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
He loves this team, he loves the spotlight. And I'll say.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
It on the NFL network. I'll give a little sprinkle here.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Knowing Sean pretty well, you know when he was in
that year in Hibernation with me at Fox the Chargers
for one of those teams that he was following, you know,
he lived in Manhattan Beach and they said, we're not
firing Brandon Staley, We're sticking with Brandon Staley.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Were like, what we got?
Speaker 6 (26:55):
He never got the opportunity, But I think the Chargers
would have been a fairly nice outcome for seanpay And
at the time, but never got the opportunity. So Denver's
at now, let's even get a in there in his
old backyard.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Kyle, you're you as a outside observer of Sean Payton
and Peter, knowing him and watching this team build into
what it is.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Because I think Peter's the only one that put.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
The Broncos into the postseason for the second year in
a row. Mind you, what do you feel probably the
opposite affection for the Chargers, but this slow build of
the Broncos have put together.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Yeah, I like the nugget from Peter. I don't understand
the motivation for Peyton, like what why is he doing
anybody a favor? Wouldn't it be better if they could
play Sunday And isn't it a really cool story until
you go to La and lose and you played on
Thursday night.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Either way, they have a long breakdown. So they had
two weeks ago and now they get a long weekend.
I think the way Sean looked at it was scheduling wise.
Our last two weeks are going to be important. Regardless,
Let's get that game out of the way on Thursday.
We have a long week and oh yeah, if we
win a game in Hollywood on primetime not the worst
thing either.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
That's brutal.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
I mean, as a player, I know he definitely didn't
check in with probably didn't check it. Maybe he did,
but I mean, I'm sure the players are probably saying
yes because they just wanted to say yes to because
the coach probably already committed to it. But as a play,
that wrecks you, that is an absolute wreck, especially as
you go towards the back half of the season, I
mean after week eleven twelve, that body starts to decline.
(28:17):
They say, you know, every single game you play in
this is like equivalent to like three train wrecks, and
so you need recovery. Recovery is so important, and especially
when you get down to this situation where they're right
there on the fringe of the playoffs. It's a risky
move for sure, and it shouldn't be an excuse.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Can't say, oh, well.
Speaker 9 (28:34):
We have back to back or have it being one
of those underlying things.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
I think we've been talking about this game for maybe
five minutes, feels like twenty but five. I don't think
we've mentioned the name Justin Herbert unless one of you
guys said I didn't pay attention.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
How about the fact.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
That the state of the nation with Herbert, So he's
hosting a home game against the division rival, and all
of the heat is on the rookie quarterbacks that's coming
into Justin Herbert's stadium where he plays.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
His home games.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
We have a huge Herbert game. Peter says something earlier
in the show. Peter, I'm kind of pair off and
you were talking about the Ravens that they were you saying,
they were like, they're the second tier right now, They're
a second tier team. And that's fine Herbert, isn't he
still stuck in this I'm a second tier quarterback, I mean.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Never considered as a top tier quarterback. Everyone talks about
Alan and Mahomes Barrar Mahomes La, I don't do your
four a four quarterback.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
And then there's like, and Justin Herbert's really talented, and
we all believe that Justin Herbert doesn't get the opportunity
to play in a lot of big games in his
career and the only playoff game he's been in his
infamous This is a big game for Justin Herbert. It's
actually a really big game. And if bone Nicks bone
Knicks comes in and steals the show in an a
legend home game for the Chargers, Herbert, it's.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Go time for him.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
I don't care about Dobbins and never mind Harbaugh for
a second. He's the face of the team. Why don't
you be the face of this night, Justin Herbert?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
It'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
The samest time we mentioned his name all show Jess.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That is very telling. The Broncos controlled their own destiny.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
If they win tonight, they clinched their postseason birth for
the first time since twenty fifteen. Now this is the
AFC playoff picture as it stands right now. Lurking teams
are becoming thinner and thinner. The Colts play the Titans
this weekend. Now, the Titans sit at three and eleven.
They are eliminated from playoff contention. They just made a
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change at quarterback, moving on from Will Levis to Mason Rudolph.
They have a first year head coach and Zach Taylor,
who's trying to answer to everything under the sun in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
But someone, someone.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Out there called this team soft, and well, the head
coach had an answer to it.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
To be honest with you, I think it's a complete
and total if you want my honest opinion. These guys
are tough man. They go after it every day. They
play hard as hell, And there's at no point, at
no point have we ever put on tape at any
point this season that this is a soft football team.
Like I can't even wrap my mind around how that
would even be a conversation. I mean, just because we
don't win games asn't mean we're soft. These guys play,
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they're off, they play hard, they play physical. You can
ask any team that plays against us that when they
come off the field, they know they played us. Yeah,
that makes me relatively angry that would be some presumption.
That's that means you just don't you know, he don't
do anything about it, that you don't know what you're
talking about. I don't know what you're looking at, So uh.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I won't stand for I'm not going to stand for
anybody calling his football team soft. So if that there's
opinions out there that feel that way, then you know
that's they don't know anything about anything about NFL football.
So I'd like you to walk in there and call
one of these guys soft and see what happens. You know,
this is not a soft football team at all, mentally
or physically.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Kudos to Brian Callahan taking up for his guys. I
think there is no greater sin in football than to
be called soft. We saw the Gerrodmeo situation after the
early season loss and when he referenced soft and had
to walk it back, because it's nothing greater, no more
damning word in football than to question a man's toughness
and a team's spirit and their ability to go. I
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think Brian Callahan has heard all season that this team
is losing this way and that the previous leadership with
Mike Vrabel, they were tough, they were and this is
a different enough what's enough? And to Cali's credit, and
I'll give him credit, this is a football man himself.
His dad is Bill Callahan, the great offensive line coach,
former coach of the Raiders who akbar I believe you
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played on THEE.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And Brian himself.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Has played football and coach football his entire life. I
think he's heard just enough in that local market and
nationally that the Titans took a major step back in
the toughness factor once Mike Vrabel walked out the door.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
You hear the term old school all the time. An
old school coach. That's an old school SoundBite. Coaches don't
really talk like that anymore. When you see that, I
expect it to be in standard definition, like nineteen ninety one,
sim mora. It's like Bill Parcells, like someone just going
off Bobby Knights, like somebody.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
The coaches like.
Speaker 11 (32:48):
That, don't.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
The coaches now don't talk like that anymore because they're
so media savvy. Also, sometimes profanity is appropriate and sometimes
it works. And I know that there's different philosophies on this,
even in the NFL, and we see it with hard
knocks sometimes and Tony Dungee, who I totally respect, is
always really again profanity, And there's a part of it
that's like that doesn't belong in the game.
Speaker 11 (33:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Sometimes it does, and that part of that rant and
part of the power of that is the way that
it was enunciated, in the way that it was colored
with all the bleeps, and I think that resonates with players.
I think that might resonate with young people, and maybe
that's a shame on society.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I'm not getting to that.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
If you take that out, it's not the same speech.
And I respect that he got there to that point.
I knows is not going to be really a good
look for him to be swearing in front of the media,
But he was so offended and so insulted. I thought
it was authentic, and I thought he talked like a
real person talks when they're mad about something at work.
And relatability's massive for a coach, very difficult to get.
I felt like I know that guy right there as
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he was talking Brian Calhan, and I think it's kind
of cool.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
Yeah, I feel you on that one, Kyle. I think
about Tony Dungee and he's right, you know as far
as like for me personally, like I'm not a dude
who swears a lot, but there's something that happens when
you step on the field, like when I get on
the field, it for me, it just it's a switch
and you can only play this game in a certain way,
like and it's full of ocean, full of everything you have,
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and so yeah, there is that switch. And you could
see that like even though he's not playing, he's in
the trenches with those guys and so yet it all
comes out like of course he's gonna feel some type
of way about that. But you know, to whoever the
pundits are calling the team soft, I think there is
not necessarily a case to say that the team is soft.
But look at three and eleven. You think about those
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massive blowout losses against the Commanders, against the Bills, against
the Lions, and yes, there's a reason for people to
question the toughness of this team, and I think it
has less to do with you know the record as
much as it is, how much do you want to fight?
When we talk about, you know, in the previous regime,
about this team showing some great this team showing that
they have ability to fight back, and I think personnel wise,
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obviously they've been handicapped in a lot of different areas.
But I do want to see a team like this,
the Tennessee Tights. I want to see them fight. I
know one thing from coach Callahan. Coach Callahan, he's grimy,
that dude is. And I'm talking about Bill Callahan, Pops Pops.
He is griming. That old line they grimy like. That's
the way he teaches the game. I want to see
the Tennessee Titans. I want to see them grimy like
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finish out strong. I mean, just go ahead and finish
out the last three strong.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
There's many teams right now who have a poor record,
who have no shadow making the playoffs, But the measure
of those teams often er what do they do in
the last three weeks? They keep fighting? Do they keep battling?
Does our coach have them locked in? I'm actually excited
to watch the Titans. Let's go, I really am. They
want angry runs on our show to Andre Sweat and
now Brian Callahan gave one of the best press moments
of the entire season. I want to watch the Titans
this weekend.
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is New York doing this time of year?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
So festive, so lovely? How are you guys feeling out
there cold? What do you think?
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Peter?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
New York's great.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
It's cold, but obviously the holiday season, there's no better
place to be. The tree lighting ceremony was a couple
of weeks ago, and now everybody's coming in and enjoying
a festive time. And Jamie the coolest part about it.
While everyone's out in the streets and enjoying Christmas in
New York, we'll be on our couches watching football.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's what we do.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yeah, it's a great gift the NFL has given us.
It's football tonight, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, next Saturday, next Sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So great.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It's overdose on football. Been quite this Thursday too, Next Thursday, Peter,
I'm so sorry and this day so sorry to the
Prime Video crew.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We love you. Let's look at us.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
A Milkin.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Letting me exactly.
Speaker 7 (01:24):
That's the football game we had. Lord's a leaping.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's great, Mack said, dancing.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yes, here we go.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It's Thursday. We had Peter.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Schragger's Trivia earlier and now it's time for throw down Thursday.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Kyle Brandt once said there was an executive at the
NFL who was this is their favorite segment on our show,
the second hour of a Thursday, top of the hour,
Let's go. It's been quite the season for Aaron Rodgers
and the Jets.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I was waiting for a throat on graphic to happen.
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
The Jets were eliminated. There was a lot of me
on camera. The Jets were eliminated from the playoffs early
and now stand with a.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Four and ten record. Rogers who is everywhere right now?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Especially if you're unloading The Netflix app spoke to the
media yesterday about his plans for the future and whether
or not he'd welcome a return.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
To the Medlands.
Speaker 8 (02:13):
I'm going to take take some time after the year
unless you know you're released right away. But I'll still
take some time whether or not I want to play.
There's a lot of reasons why this would be a great,
great opportunity, but you know, I'm gonna see what happens.
There's you know, a lot of things yet to happen.
They got to hire a GM, got to hire a
head coach, and then you know, whether or not I'm
(02:34):
part of conversation or whether or not they move on.
You know, whatever happens, I'll be taking my time and
thinking about my future.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
It is mind boggling to think that, amongst many other
decisions the Jets have to make, the quarterback might be
at the third spot because they have hirings to do
up top, GM coach and so on and so forth.
Throw it down Thursday. Is this let's pit the final
weeks of the NFL season against two quarterbacks, one old
one yet Aaron Rodgers Michael Pennix Junior.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
We'll start for the Falcons this weekend.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Who's final weeks of this season? Are you going to
be watching closer? Peter First Rogers or Michael Pennix Jr.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I'm going with a rod I am fascinated with how
this thing plays out. If you had asked me three
weeks ago, I would say it's likely on I don't
see a situation where Rogers a would maybe want to
return and b where the Jets want him back. And
then the last two weeks Rogers has played fantastic football.
He's getting healthier. And suddenly you look at this and
you're like, well, what's the alternative. We're not going to
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get one of the top picks in the draft, so
it's not Shador Sanders a cam Ward. You're then looking
at like, all right, we could still draft a quarterback,
but maybe we keep Rogers around. He's already going to
be on the payroll. And then you look at how
DeVonta Adams.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Has played, and these guys feel like they're just getting
it going.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Could you roll back Rogers and Adams for next year?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You can.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You can.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Now, all of this is conjuncture because to Aaron's point,
they don't have a GM and they don't have a
head coach, and those.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Guys should be the one making the decision. That should
not be a Woody Johnson decision. Woody Johnson should not
be sitting in.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
His office in Florence park Or in West Palm where he.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Is now, and like he should not be.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
The one saying Rogers is back and we're gonna pay
Garrett Wilson, We're gonna pay. They have to get the
GM situation right, They have to get the coach right,
and then those guys have to talk and they have
to decide whether or not they want Rodgers back. The
final three weeks, Rogers can put it on tape. He
has an opportunity to make the case and say, you
know what, don't get rid of me just yet. I
still got something to give and maybe, just maybe I
(04:36):
wasn't healthy until.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
This point in the season. Yeah, I think you know
his health.
Speaker 9 (04:41):
You know, this this nice spike that we're seeing out
of Aaron Rodgers. Michael Pennix on the other side, Peter,
you know, you look at the young star getting his opportunity.
But I agree with you. I think it is I
think it has to be Aaron Rodgers. And for me,
I think it has a lot to do with the
fact that could this be it?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You know, Like for.
Speaker 9 (05:01):
Aaron Rodgers, I've been watching his documentary and you know,
he's a very interesting person and I'm getting to learn
a lot about Aaron Rodgers off the field and just
to kind of the way his mind works. And but
one of the things that I found fascinating was, you know,
his processing returning and his workout and his mobility and
(05:21):
his admission to his age and you know, feeling it
and all of that, and you know, you know, in
the third third episode he kind of moves to it.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
A little bit. Maybe this is it.
Speaker 9 (05:33):
And if that's the case, then I'm watching to see
how this ends. Because no matter how you feel about
Aaron Rodgers, what a career he's had, and I'd like
to see those type of things. I'm one of those
dudes who like to see history and I appreciated it,
you know, And maybe he gets the bug bug, the
bug of greatness where you're so intoxicated by greatness you
(05:53):
try to see if you can do it again because
you think that you're still the person you work twenty
years ago. But I'm gonna go Aaron Rodgers in this one.
He's the one that I'd definitely be watching.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Give me Pennix, let's go baby, let lock and Low.
Give me this nice lefty rookie lighting things up. I've
seen a lot of Aaron Rodgers play football, not only
this year. I've been watching Aaron Rodgers for twenty seasons.
I love it. It's been some of the greatest football
memories as a spectator I have. I think I'm good.
I have a full tank of Aaron Rodgers. I want
a fresh Michael Pennix. Who is this only rookie who's
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been sitting around, waiting, waiting, waiting. Now he's going to
get put in the game. Maybe he's fantastic, Maybe he
completely lights it up. He just looks so cool with
the lefty delivery in the dome, And honestly, I think
it's kind of I like that Costco story. I think
there's something humbling about that. The fact that he was
there with his lady friend and they're getting dollar fifty
hot dogs.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's great.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
And if he blows up this year, he'll have some
sort of Costco endorsement. He'll become the face of Costco
and he'll be the Costco quarterback. And that's relatable. I
think Jamie said it perfectly. The fact that that guy
is there in the third week in December, on a
weekday in the evening, that is nuts.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That is an all out engage.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Eight blitz like he can stand up to pressure the
lines alone. You have to pay with the debit card.
You have that giant palette thing. It's hell on Earth
walking in there right now.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And he did it.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
No big deal, I am. I know what we're going
to see from Rogers. I think at this point, I
have no idea we're gona get from Penix, but I'm
excited about it. It's like, let's make a deal. Give
me curtain number three. I've seen the first two curtains
a million times.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Making admission Jamie, Yeah, I want to make it an admission.
I've loved in New York City for twenty years. Yes,
I grew up in the Jersey Shore. We had Sam's
and BJ. I have never been in a costco before,
is that right? I have never been in a costco before.
I have never stepped foot in the costco. I have
never shopped at that store. I've shopped at big box stores,
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but I have never been to a costco. So Michael
Pennock saying that I'm fascinated and I might want to
go visit one and try one of Oh wow.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
What do you do when you need six years with
the trash bags?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You go to one of the other ones to.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Go to the book.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
This time of year, you can get you can get.
You can literally get a baby crib at a Costco.
You can get a coffin at a Costco. So from
life Walk to death they sell coffins because if you
need a coffin, you might as well.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Get a deal they want.
Speaker 9 (08:13):
Hey, Peter, I don't know if you like to snack,
but they have great samples. You can sample just about
anything at Costco. You gotta go, majic.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Okay, the samples a lot, I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
We give a lot of editorial suggestions NFL plus Schrager
and a Costco. I mean there's another one like we
just keep giving these free ideas.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And also, Michael Pennick shere is a young guy. I'm
not sure if he has any kids yet.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
But if you don't and you're there with your gold,
why are you at a Costco six days before Christmas?
What do you need a mass quantity of? It's stressing
us all out. The fact that this young quarterback for
the Atlanta Falcons just of milling around with a hot
dog and a paper sleeve at a Costco. Why we've
got deaf on the show to ask me these questions.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Okay with Michael Penky.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Now one more thing on Costco.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It was a great elucid point
you just made, Peter. How did you not go to
Costco during the AJ and Big Justice this boom when
they once that was like going to Graceland at that
point for New Jersey, it's like now where they were
bringing the boom?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
How did you survive it?
Speaker 6 (09:11):
I saw I saw the NFL's using them for the
Netflix promo.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Okay, like they're flying a little close to the sun
right now. They were charming at first. I think I
might be out on a J and Big John. I
did a lot of a lot of people. Those your guys,
it was shoot when they were like small time. Now
they might be too big time. Don't worry that Bobby
Alcohol what's her name?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, like, oh no, don't now.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
She's now she's a big star. And it's like, all right,
what about the Rizzler? I'd be out him.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Now that our phones are always listening to us, your
Instagram is just going to.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Be Kirkland hacks.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Just why it's gonna be all the videos Michael Pennix.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Kirkland jelly.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
So you know that kirk ran belly.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, big old box with a black jar.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Kirkland.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Don't forget about the peanut butter pretzel too.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Oh those are real good.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh I hit those.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Yeah, yeah, Kirkland, that's my flavor town.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That's great.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I just want Shregs rolling around on one of those
palettes when Kyle's pushing look at that.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Look at that. I'm telling you, NFL plus, here we go.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Michael Penis Junior said, to face the giants this weekend,
our throwdown, our second throat on question becomes this who
has had the bigger impact on the music industry?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
New York City or Atlanta? O.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I like that we used the Ramones photo.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I like that. That's deep cut, that's Nas and Ramones.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
You know, obviously I'm a New Yorker, but I did
spend many years in my life in Atlanta. I went
to college in Atlanta, and I was there at the
boom when like Outcast and Ludacris and Usher, We're all
coming out in the early two thousands and so so
deaf was everything. But I gotta go with New York
because of the wide breadth of different types of musical
talent that we've seen over the years, Billy Joel, because
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Billy Joel's like the voice.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Of Long Island and Oyster Bay, and that counts as
New York. It does.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
So you go from Billy Joel, which is awesome, and
then you can all say, Okay, we got the piano man,
the entertainer and all this stuff. But also representing New
York could be my man fifty cent Curtis Jackson.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
We get him as well.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
So fifty cent and Billy Joel are two very different.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Types of artists. But you've got that.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
But then you've got like early two thousand's rock scene
that like meet me in the back, you know, in
the back, come through the bath, their window, whatever it is,
the Strokes, like that whole scene, the yeah yeah yeahs
and the Strokes and LCD sound system, like all those guys.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Those guys are there.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Then you go deep cut and it's like Simon and
Garfunkel are from New York, right, how about Stephen Sondheim.
Speaker 10 (11:41):
Sohnheim rock people about every Broadway score that Andrew Lloyd
Webber didn't all right, So you go with Simon and
Garfunkel to Stephen Sondheim and then i end look at Sonheim,
James Bond.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Only football show ever to show Sondheim.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
And then we end it with the guys from Shao
Lyin and you end it with Staten Island's own Wu
Tang Clan and they also so like from Sonda time
to Shout Lynn.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It's an old dirty mastered and method Man and the
whole crew Hello.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Ghosts face Like, I think that's my case.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
The pictures tell the story.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
We go through decades and decades of different genres.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
New York has not only the top end quality but
also the bench.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
So I'm gonna go at the depth on that New
York wins from my pie.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Yeah, I'm tagging team. I'm tag team in on that one.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
New York.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
It's the birthplace, right. You think about the Harlem Renaissance,
you think about Cold Training, you think about Billie Holiday,
you think about even Bebop two, all of that, I
mean originated from New York. But then when you get
into the hip hop era in the seventies, come on,
grand Master Flash. I mean that's where you know he's
considered the grandfather the like of hip hop and kind
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of that maturation when you go into Biggie and what
Biggie did for for New York. So many cool nas
we could go with. The list goes on and on,
and no shade to Atlanta because Atlanta they had their time.
Atlanta definitely had the time. Like you talked about out Cast,
Ti Usher, those guys, I mean, you talk about, you know,
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Southern rap, you talk about crunk music, they put it.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They put Southern music on the map.
Speaker 9 (13:17):
I kind of want to think about it, even in
the hip hop R and B gang. I think about
it kind of like the Celtics. The Celtics were the dynasty, right,
and that's what New York is. They're the dynasty. They're
like the Celtics. And then you think about that one
little blip of time when the Houston Rockets had their
their moment in the nineties, that's what Atlanta was. So
they had their moment, their little blip, and then it's
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been it's been New York ever since.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
All right two for New York.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
So this is why I was put on this planet
to be the face and voice of Atlanta music. Look
Southern hip hop, and I'll here listen, I understand the
South got something to say. I understand that completely, and
I love that moment, and we've had Big Boy on
the show and all over the years. I have to focus.
I have to stay legitimate to myself. When I was
turning twelve years old, I had a birthday party and
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your parents say, what do you want to do for
your berth You want to go to the roller rink,
you want to go bowling and all that, and the
invitation went out, and the invitation was to party at
our house in the backyard. And it encouraged all the attendees,
all the other sixth grade boys to show up with
their blue jeans on backwards, because at the time, they said,
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making making and making a minute Mac doesn't making it
making it and making a making of a Mac. Chris bleeping' cross, Peter,
you show me Billy Joe his jeans on backwards, then
we'll have something.
Speaker 11 (14:33):
Go.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
Don't see our garfunkle dressing up like that. Us cull
Us mac Daddy Kelly and Chris Daddy mac Smith. And
it was so cool if you were a kid at
the time, because they were also kids and they're out
there blowing it up. They had a music video where
they're driving a car they weren't even old enough to
drive and it was just you didn't even understand what
they were saying. Then making a mag it was just awesome.
It was so cool, and they would play it at parties.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
They have something called like miss the bus, missed the
bus awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Warm it up, Chris, I'm a bab up shoo. That's
what I was born too.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
We used to show up to school with our jeans
on backwards, and it was so cool. It's ridiculous because
the fly and the buttoner in the back and it
doesn't work, and you can't if you have to go, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Work and your pants come down. But for the hot,
hot minute, you turn.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Around your starter and you'd have like a Florida Marlin
starter or San Jose Sharks or Shore of the Hornets
Charlotte Hornets with.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Your jeans on backs.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
I had a whole birthday party where like you basically
weren't allowed in unless your jeans were back for it,
and no one even tried to make them forward. It
was awesome. That was a hugely influential there. Atlanta, Chris Cross, Atlanta.
Jermaine Dupree, producer of It, Chris Cross. I love those guys.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I know they're no longer with us one of them.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I believe.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
I don't want to disrespect them of you, but just
I just love I love everything they stand for.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
You know what, I gotta get you props on that
one man. First off, in that era, I didn't even realize,
like there wasn't a regional thing. I didn't even realize
they were from Atlanta, and that was a big one.
We all grew up to that one in that era.
So sometimes to dye, but they can't rhyme like this. Still,
that was good.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
The Sprite commercial Banger, the mac Dad will make it,
the Daddy Matt, they'll both make you jump.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Kyle, your parents are just appreciative that you didn't want
to have that party in a bowling alley, because that's
a free birthday right there. Show up to our backyard
with your pants on backwards.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So free it it's great.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
And you know all My last thing on Criss Cross.
There was a video game for Criss Cross. I think
it was like for the Sega CD. Looked at it's
one of the worst video games ever.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Fine, it's fine.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I hope they just got to check forward or something
like that. But it was a wildly terrible video that's
just a little Coda.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
It was called Crisscross Extreme.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I don't know what we probably got to get out.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I love Criss Cross, Ian Rappaport, welcome into GMFB respectfully,
respectfully when I say, I don't really care about Patrick
Mahomes or t J. Watt right now, I just need
to know your answer to Atlanta or New York City
music scene.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Wow, I have so many thoughts.
Speaker 12 (16:53):
First of all, the Crisscross reference is a good one,
discovered by the way by Jermaine dupri really one of
the all time hip hop grades. One of the reasons
why the Atlanta rap scene is basically what it is.
I mean, it's I think everyone has been where Kyle was,
which is you go to a party or whatever. For us,
it was you go to a social at Camp. Greylock
and Josh Glass and Greg Dodell were dressed as Criss Cross,
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and all the girls thought it was really really cool
because they had their genes on backwards, they had their
jerseys on backwards, the whole it was a whole thing.
I used to love Crisscross, Mad Respect for Atlanta and
Welcome to Atlanta remix is one of my favorite hip
hop songs of all time.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Definitely in the top ten.
Speaker 12 (17:31):
That said, I want to call back to a segment previous,
our good friend Peter Schrager was talking about Michael Pennix
and he was explaining Michael Pennix and the role he
steps into, and he says, Michael Pennix, the world is
yours and that really struck me to the core because
I talk about River Bett was everything right now is
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open for him. And the fact that Schreeger mentioned it
just casually dropping the name of one of the best
NOS songs of all time off the greatest hip Hop
one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time, Illmatic,
just goes to show you how much New York rap
has permeated our culture, football or otherwise, like he just
said it without even thinking of the fact that the
influence was Nasu. By the way, I saw on concert
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with Wu Tang a couple of months ago, blew the
doors off the place, especially Wu Tang.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The energy is incredible. So that really goes to show
you just how how.
Speaker 12 (18:25):
Much the New York rap scene is our our wallpaper, right.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I mean, you guys know, I love.
Speaker 12 (18:30):
Biggie, our Red Rocks, Rockefeller, I love nas I love
Wu tag all of it. But this is our soundtrack,
this is our wallpaper. And the fact that just permeates
our conversation without even thinking about it just speaks to
how much a part of our lives.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
New York rap is all right, sheet in perfect.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Our next guest tailing from the Inland Empire's the Packers
many for the Walter An NFL Man of the Year.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
This is Kenny Clark. Kenny, get in here.
Speaker 11 (19:07):
What's what's going on?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Kenny? We love having you on GMFB.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
We just got done arguing about the music scene, the
rap scene between New York City and Atlanta. What say
you about where you hail from? Just a quick thought
or two on why LA should represent Yeah, you know.
Speaker 11 (19:25):
We got the biggest represent in l A right now,
you know Kswick right now. And then you know, you
can't forget about the you know, the Ice Chubes, the
OA W A C. You know those guys New Pop.
You know what I'm saying, we got we got a
lot of rappers out there.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Those one name references to musicians. It's like when you say,
you know, like the Packers, like they're representing in the NFC.
I attempted to do something there you're playing the Saints
on Monday night.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
What's going on with.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
This defense and how badly does this team want to
come together down the stretch and what characteristics does that
mean for you guys as you enter potential postseason play.
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Yeah, this huge game this week. You know, we got
to just keep doing what we're doing, hold each other accountable,
and you know, just is working, you know, day in
and day out. You know, we've been doing a lot
of great things and improving East and every game of
been doing a great job. But our turnovers and all
that kind of stuff, stopping to run and getting guys
in past Russ situations and drop back situations and being
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able to rest the passer and Bliss and Presserman all
that kind of stuff. So it's been it's been great
and we've been continuously getting better and we got to
just keep doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Kenny, we love having you on the show.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
You're a longtime friend of the show and one of
the great guys in the NFL. There's so many new
faces on that Packers defense. On Sunday night, Edgar and Cooper,
a rookie was flying all over the field, had an interception,
had a big play, and of course Evan.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Williams the other rookie.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
But I want to ask about the newest face, the
defensive coordinator and what he's done. Jeff Hafley comes from
Boston College. He's now the d C for the Packers.
First year coach for you guys. What has he done
to help transform this d defense and everything.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
Just it's just a whole new mentality here. You know.
We we we pride ourselves on defense, and we talk
about all the time just making this organization a defensive organization,
and we take it serious and uh, you know, we
work for it every single day. We just we push
each other and uh, you know that's the that's the
main key, you know, Halthlete, he's a great coach. That's
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a great job, you know, with pressuring and and listening
to his players and all that kind of stuff, and uh,
you know, he just allows us to just go out
there and uh, you know, go to work.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Kenny, you're up for the Walter Peyton Man of the
Year Award. It's a really really big honor. I just
think it's so cool. It's towards the end of the season.
Now you're tired, it's getting cold outside. Would be easy
to just sit indoors and do nothing when you're not
at the facility, yet you're still out there in the
community making a difference. Why is that important to you?
And what are you the most proud of that you've done.
Speaker 11 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean it's an honor, you know what I'm saying,
And you know it's it's important to get back. I
just know, you know, when I was little, I didn't
have nobody to come up to my school or you know,
old camps and all that kind of stuff for me,
And you know, I know what that would have did
did for me as a kid. So you know, just
for me to go back into communities and show them that,
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you know, I said, in these safe seats and all
that kind of stuff, and for them to see my face,
you know, it's huge for me. You know, it's huge
for me. I know it does a lot for those kids.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Kenny.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
It's really cool that you took something from your childhood
and you apply it to making the Green Bay community better.
I know the Packers and everyone that lived there appreciate it. Kenny,
Stay healthy, stay well. Happy holidays to you, Good luck
on Monday, and congratulations with again I'm being in a
Walter Payton NFL manity.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Or award of money.
Speaker 11 (22:46):
I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
See Kenny all right.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Time for tie Tackles presented by Tiede Naturally. The last
time we saw the Chargers, they fell with the Bucks.
It was a brutal loss, forty to seventeen. Tampa Bay
came in here and rolled up five hundred yards of
offense right across the street at SOFI Stadium. Baker Mayfield
through for four touchdown passes, two of those to Mike Evans.
Buffs looked awesome. That's not the point though. They got
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back into the win column. But the Chargers go against
the Broncos tonight.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
How do they do that for themselves?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
The Chargers are going to have to clean it up
on defense. Can they do it? We are going to
find out tonight. We are just hours away from kickoff
Broncos Chargers right in our backyard. Peter, how does one
get back on track? Do you feel for the Chargers
and what kind of mojo would you hope to see
from this team down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Last week was embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
They give up five hundred yards of offense at the
number one defense in the league. I went through the
schedule earlier in the week.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
They've only had.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
One good win all season against a competitive team, and
that's the Broncos. Tonight with me a major statement at home,
get the job done and.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Stop the bleeding. Stop the bleeding. A tough loss to
the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
And then of course a horrible loss to the Buccaneers. Chargers, Harball,
this is why they brought you in. Win tonight, take
care of business and pet your division rable Broncos say.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It any better than Peter just did.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
It's Harbaugh, Harbor.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
We could sit here and sing about A.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
JK.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Dobbin's injury, and I think it does make a difference,
and that was really their identity offensively. But come on now,
this December, everybody's got the injury they can point to.
When you have those injuries and you have that calendar
where it is, you look at the head coach and
they stand up strong on top of the mountain and say,
we're gonna get this game home, home, home against a
rookie quarterback. We got to have this game, Chargers, otherwise
we're hovering over five hundred and the season getting away
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from us. They need it way way more than Denver,
not just in the standings, in the optics between the Ears.
If Chargers don't show up tonight, it's like, what are
we doing with this team this year?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I hate this.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
It is this is a big one for them to
show to show up, and I think it's going to
have to happen right here. Defensively and being able to
apply pressure to bow Nicks, we saw this, this collapse
so to speak, so to speak for bow Nicks in
this last game, in his last game, and we saw
the interceptions, and we know that defensively the Chargers, they've
been carried by their defense, and so I'm looking for
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them to fill in the gap for where they don't have,
what they don't have in the run game, what they
don't have, or what's inconsistent in their passing game. The Chargers,
this is a seating opportunity too, to be able to
situate themselves in the playoffs so they can make a
run for it right now, because there's some deficit that
is costing this team real opportunities.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Both of these defenses are tied for allowing just seventeen
points sixty four points per game this season. The defenses
are crazy on both sides of the wall. Peter, can
you speak to I was just thinking about Sean Payton
and what we saw from him last year and how
fourteen fifteen months ago he's sitting in a parking lot
in Denver, in a outside of a sushi restaurant, wondering
what brings him joy in football anymore. I would assume
(25:50):
he's in pretty good spirits now with this team, this quarterback,
but also why has this become a Sean Payton team?
Speaker 6 (25:57):
If you want to know where Sean Payton's had at,
let me take you through the process of how this
game is on Thursday night this week. This game was
supposed to be a Sunday game, Brown's Bengals supposed to
be Thursday night. Amazon asked the league, can we can
we flex out of that? Can we please not have
Brown's Bengals on a Thursday night when either team is relevant?
And the league said, We're sorry, there's no other options.
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The only option would be Broncos Chargers. But the Broncos
already played a road Thursday night game against the Saints.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We can't ask them to do a second one.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
In fact, the league has laws saying you can't play
two road Thursday night games, so We're sorry. They said,
we'll run it by Sean Payne. Champagne said, bring it.
We'll do the road Thursday night game.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Bring it, don't wave the rules. Bring it.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
He loves this team, he loves the spotlight. And I'll say.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
It on the NFL network. I'll give a little sprinkle here.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Knowing Sean pretty well, you know when he was in
that year in Hibernation with me at Fox the Chargers
for one of those teams that he was following, you know,
he lived in Manhattan Beach and they said, we're not
firing Brandon Staley, We're sticking with Brandon Staley.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Were like, what we got?
Speaker 6 (26:55):
He never got the opportunity, But I think the Chargers
would have been a fairly nice outcome for seanpay And
at the time, but never got the opportunity. So Denver's
at now, let's even get a in there in his
old backyard.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Kyle, you're you as a outside observer of Sean Payton
and Peter, knowing him and watching this team build into
what it is.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Because I think Peter's the only one that put.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
The Broncos into the postseason for the second year in
a row. Mind you, what do you feel probably the
opposite affection for the Chargers, but this slow build of
the Broncos have put together.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Yeah, I like the nugget from Peter. I don't understand
the motivation for Peyton, like what why is he doing
anybody a favor? Wouldn't it be better if they could
play Sunday And isn't it a really cool story until
you go to La and lose and you played on
Thursday night.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Either way, they have a long breakdown. So they had
two weeks ago and now they get a long weekend.
I think the way Sean looked at it was scheduling wise.
Our last two weeks are going to be important. Regardless,
Let's get that game out of the way on Thursday.
We have a long week and oh yeah, if we
win a game in Hollywood on primetime not the worst
thing either.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
That's brutal.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
I mean, as a player, I know he definitely didn't
check in with probably didn't check it. Maybe he did,
but I mean, I'm sure the players are probably saying
yes because they just wanted to say yes to because
the coach probably already committed to it. But as a play,
that wrecks you, that is an absolute wreck, especially as
you go towards the back half of the season, I
mean after week eleven twelve, that body starts to decline.
(28:17):
They say, you know, every single game you play in
this is like equivalent to like three train wrecks, and
so you need recovery. Recovery is so important, and especially
when you get down to this situation where they're right
there on the fringe of the playoffs. It's a risky
move for sure, and it shouldn't be an excuse.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Can't say, oh, well.
Speaker 9 (28:34):
We have back to back or have it being one
of those underlying things.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
I think we've been talking about this game for maybe
five minutes, feels like twenty but five. I don't think
we've mentioned the name Justin Herbert unless one of you
guys said I didn't pay attention.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
How about the fact.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
That the state of the nation with Herbert, So he's
hosting a home game against the division rival, and all
of the heat is on the rookie quarterbacks that's coming
into Justin Herbert's stadium where he plays.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
His home games.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
We have a huge Herbert game. Peter says something earlier
in the show. Peter, I'm kind of pair off and
you were talking about the Ravens that they were you saying,
they were like, they're the second tier right now, They're
a second tier team. And that's fine Herbert, isn't he
still stuck in this I'm a second tier quarterback, I mean.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Never considered as a top tier quarterback. Everyone talks about
Alan and Mahomes Barrar Mahomes La, I don't do your
four a four quarterback.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
And then there's like, and Justin Herbert's really talented, and
we all believe that Justin Herbert doesn't get the opportunity
to play in a lot of big games in his
career and the only playoff game he's been in his
infamous This is a big game for Justin Herbert. It's
actually a really big game. And if bone Nicks bone
Knicks comes in and steals the show in an a
legend home game for the Chargers, Herbert, it's.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Go time for him.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
I don't care about Dobbins and never mind Harbaugh for
a second. He's the face of the team. Why don't
you be the face of this night, Justin Herbert?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
It'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
The samest time we mentioned his name all show Jess.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That is very telling. The Broncos controlled their own destiny.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
If they win tonight, they clinched their postseason birth for
the first time since twenty fifteen. Now this is the
AFC playoff picture as it stands right now. Lurking teams
are becoming thinner and thinner. The Colts play the Titans
this weekend. Now, the Titans sit at three and eleven.
They are eliminated from playoff contention. They just made a
(30:15):
change at quarterback, moving on from Will Levis to Mason Rudolph.
They have a first year head coach and Zach Taylor,
who's trying to answer to everything under the sun in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
But someone, someone.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Out there called this team soft, and well, the head
coach had an answer to it.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
To be honest with you, I think it's a complete
and total if you want my honest opinion. These guys
are tough man. They go after it every day. They
play hard as hell, And there's at no point, at
no point have we ever put on tape at any
point this season that this is a soft football team.
Like I can't even wrap my mind around how that
would even be a conversation. I mean, just because we
don't win games asn't mean we're soft. These guys play,
(30:57):
they're off, they play hard, they play physical. You can
ask any team that plays against us that when they
come off the field, they know they played us. Yeah,
that makes me relatively angry that would be some presumption.
That's that means you just don't you know, he don't
do anything about it, that you don't know what you're
talking about. I don't know what you're looking at, So uh.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I won't stand for I'm not going to stand for
anybody calling his football team soft. So if that there's
opinions out there that feel that way, then you know
that's they don't know anything about anything about NFL football.
So I'd like you to walk in there and call
one of these guys soft and see what happens. You know,
this is not a soft football team at all, mentally
or physically.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Kudos to Brian Callahan taking up for his guys. I
think there is no greater sin in football than to
be called soft. We saw the Gerrodmeo situation after the
early season loss and when he referenced soft and had
to walk it back, because it's nothing greater, no more
damning word in football than to question a man's toughness
and a team's spirit and their ability to go. I
(31:56):
think Brian Callahan has heard all season that this team
is losing this way and that the previous leadership with
Mike Vrabel, they were tough, they were and this is
a different enough what's enough? And to Cali's credit, and
I'll give him credit, this is a football man himself.
His dad is Bill Callahan, the great offensive line coach,
former coach of the Raiders who akbar I believe you
(32:16):
played on THEE.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And Brian himself.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Has played football and coach football his entire life. I
think he's heard just enough in that local market and
nationally that the Titans took a major step back in
the toughness factor once Mike Vrabel walked out the door.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
You hear the term old school all the time. An
old school coach. That's an old school SoundBite. Coaches don't
really talk like that anymore. When you see that, I
expect it to be in standard definition, like nineteen ninety one,
sim mora. It's like Bill Parcells, like someone just going
off Bobby Knights, like somebody.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
The coaches like.
Speaker 11 (32:48):
That, don't.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
The coaches now don't talk like that anymore because they're
so media savvy. Also, sometimes profanity is appropriate and sometimes
it works. And I know that there's different philosophies on this,
even in the NFL, and we see it with hard
knocks sometimes and Tony Dungee, who I totally respect, is
always really again profanity, And there's a part of it
that's like that doesn't belong in the game.
Speaker 11 (33:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Sometimes it does, and that part of that rant and
part of the power of that is the way that
it was enunciated, in the way that it was colored
with all the bleeps, and I think that resonates with players.
I think that might resonate with young people, and maybe
that's a shame on society.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I'm not getting to that.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
If you take that out, it's not the same speech.
And I respect that he got there to that point.
I knows is not going to be really a good
look for him to be swearing in front of the media,
But he was so offended and so insulted. I thought
it was authentic, and I thought he talked like a
real person talks when they're mad about something at work.
And relatability's massive for a coach, very difficult to get.
I felt like I know that guy right there as
(33:42):
he was talking Brian Calhan, and I think it's kind
of cool.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
Yeah, I feel you on that one, Kyle. I think
about Tony Dungee and he's right, you know as far
as like for me personally, like I'm not a dude
who swears a lot, but there's something that happens when
you step on the field, like when I get on
the field, it for me, it just it's a switch
and you can only play this game in a certain way,
like and it's full of ocean, full of everything you have,
(34:06):
and so yeah, there is that switch. And you could
see that like even though he's not playing, he's in
the trenches with those guys and so yet it all
comes out like of course he's gonna feel some type
of way about that. But you know, to whoever the
pundits are calling the team soft, I think there is
not necessarily a case to say that the team is soft.
But look at three and eleven. You think about those
(34:27):
massive blowout losses against the Commanders, against the Bills, against
the Lions, and yes, there's a reason for people to
question the toughness of this team, and I think it
has less to do with you know the record as
much as it is, how much do you want to fight?
When we talk about, you know, in the previous regime,
about this team showing some great this team showing that
they have ability to fight back, and I think personnel wise,
(34:50):
obviously they've been handicapped in a lot of different areas.
But I do want to see a team like this,
the Tennessee Tights. I want to see them fight. I
know one thing from coach Callahan. Coach Callahan, he's grimy,
that dude is. And I'm talking about Bill Callahan, Pops Pops.
He is griming. That old line they grimy like. That's
the way he teaches the game. I want to see
the Tennessee Titans. I want to see them grimy like
(35:10):
finish out strong. I mean, just go ahead and finish
out the last three strong.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
There's many teams right now who have a poor record,
who have no shadow making the playoffs, But the measure
of those teams often er what do they do in
the last three weeks? They keep fighting? Do they keep battling?
Does our coach have them locked in? I'm actually excited
to watch the Titans. Let's go, I really am. They
want angry runs on our show to Andre Sweat and
now Brian Callahan gave one of the best press moments
of the entire season. I want to watch the Titans
this weekend.
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