April 22, 2025 • 38 mins
Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Cody Kessler and Tom Pelissero discussing the amount of QB’s that will be selected in the first round of the NFL Draft. Then they react to Daniel Jeremiah’s top-150 prospects in the 2025 NFL Draft. Kyle unveils his Angry Runs Watch List with the NFL Draft just two days away.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Roundup
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the NFL, Cody Gessler. We've got NFL at we're inside
of Tom Telisaro, he's in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And then Kyle Brant.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Normally, I have you worried that you don't have a
normal rotation of T shirts going on? But I know
there is a specific reason why you're wearing that one today.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
That's right, We're going to do our angry runs watch
list for the twenty twenty five draft. These are the
angry sobs of tomorrow. Never mind who's on the top fifty,
top one fifty. I don't care where you get drafted
or if you get drafted. It's the prospects where we're
going to truck the most people. That's how we do it.
That's our show. Tello Sero's and Lambeau. It looks beautiful,
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Let's do it. Jimfbe starts now, Good Morning Footbar.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
That's right, we're just two days away from the twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Five NFL Draft.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
In green Bay.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Cody and myself sit here in Los Angeles, Kyles in
New York City and Tom Pellisero. You have the sun
shining upon you in Green Bay. You look great, my friends.
It is not dreary whatsoever. Can you take us outside Lambeau?
What is construction looking like? Just give fans a beat
on how we are looking at the draft stage and
the setup before Thursday's first round.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Well, first of all, while it looks like I'm on
the surface of the sun, it's thirty six degrees out there.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
This is the.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Classic Green Bay fake out mid April day where it
looks really nice and then you go, I should have
worn another layer here. But it's supposed to be nice
the next couple of days here. Hopefully that holds up
through the draft weekend. The main draft stage is out
on the east side of the stadium, which is over
my right shoulder. Back there, it is almost fully up.
You basically have to take a golf cart to traverse
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anywhere around the stadium.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Right now, all the road are shut down.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
They're anticipating like a quarter million people to be in
Green Bay, in a town of like one hundred and
seven thousand people. It is going to be a massive,
massive type of event. And I will say this too,
being here a couple of days, people could not be nicer,
They could not be more informed, they could not be
more prepared for this. Green Bay is ready for this
moment of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's all we want fans for the draft to be
is nice and informed. Tom, the thirty sixth threes didn't
keep you from flirting with that button on that shirt.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I see you there, buddy.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
What are the Giants when we look at the NFL
Draft doing with the third overall pick. We hear about
all of the visits that they've done. We're looking at
the workouts right now. It sound for the league block
pal Sero number three overall pick. New York Giants take
us in right now.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
The feeling within the league, as it has been in
recent weeks, is the Giants are weighing a couple of
options here. One is to take the best player available,
which many around the league believe at that point would
be Abdul Carter, the edgeresher from Penn State. The other
option would be drafting eight quarterback, most notably Shador Sanders,
who the Giants have put a ton of work into
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They brought him out to New Jersey, they went to
his showcase, they did a private workout with him last week.
They were at every practice that they could go to,
every single game. They have done as much work on
Shador Sanders as any team on any prospect in this draft.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
When you get to these types though, of.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Major organizational decisions, it involves a lot of people from
every level of the organization, including ownership. Now we had
Mark Ross on the Insiders last night. Mark worked in
the Giants organization a long time. I point blank asked him,
has John Mayer ever put his thumb on the scale
and overridden what the GM wanted to do? He said,
never in his experience. But certainly any owner who's going
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to be committing potentially to a franchise quarterback is going
to want to be involved in those conversations. There's still
some variants here. We presume the cam Or goes number
one to Tennessee. We think that Travis Hunter goes two
to Cleveland. That could still change, But if those are
the first two picks, really the options for the Giants
would seem to be Shador Sanders at number three or
take an abdual Carter and then figure out if maybe
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there's an opportunity later in Day one or day two
of the draft to get that quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Oh my gosh, those are two names to have within
your building representing, but the experience in terms of who
you get is vastly different. Reports have been all over
the place for which quarterback prospect as we focus on
that position that the Giants want. Their head coach Brian
Dable was asked if the organization is aligned on player
evaluations in this year's group.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Take a listen.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
There's really good communication, and not just with the quarterbacks,
with each position.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's okay to disagree.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
You're not going to be disagreeable, and everybody has thoughts
and opinions of what they evaluate and what they see,
and there's great conversation. I mean, I really, I really
enjoy our process of how we do it with the
assistant coaches, with the area of scouts, with the national scouts,
sometimes the pro scouts, with Joe myself, the people that
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are kind of in Joe's leader ship group are coordinators.
There's a lot of good give and take, and at
the end of the day, when you're drafting a player,
everybody's on board, with who you draft and the process
of which we go through.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Why is that my new parenting tactic. It's okay to disagree,
you are not going to be disagreeable. NFL dot com
lead draft writer Eric at Holme released his mock three
point zero and he's got four first round quarterbacks being selected.
Compared to the sixth last year. That number doesn't seem
as crazy, but the names and where they might go
certainly are. You've got number one off the board, cam
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Ward going to the Tennessee Titans, this again according to.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Eric at HOLMNFL dot com.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Chadur going to the Saints.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Jackson Dart heading to Pittsburgh, which is fascinating, waiting for
Ann Rogers. You only have Mason Rudolph on the board
right now, and then Jalen Milroe perhaps in the second
round going to the Giants. Kyle, your thoughts on these
four quarterbacks going in the first round on Thursday when
you look at that list, well.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I'm surprised.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I'm surprised that there's four, and I'm surprised that there's
not five. Here's the deal, guys, I'm going to get
on a plane tomorrow from New York to Green Bay
it'll be the ninth draft that I've attended. It's a
really really cool privilege if you're new to this, like
to really consuming NFL media year round. It's very adorable
that anyone has the naivete still about quarterbacks in the
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first round.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That naivete is saying.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
This isn't a quarterback year, this isn't a quarterback draft.
That is a March thing to say. It's a February
thing to say. We're in late April. The quarterbacks get drafted.
Even if it's the allegedly worst quarterback year of the century,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just a quick piece of history as we prepare for
Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
The Broncos once traded up in the first round to
get Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
The Browns once took a twenty eight year old man
in the first rounded quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
The Bills traded up twice, two separate times, to get
Josh Allen. The Packers drafted a quarterback who led.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
The nation interceptions in the first round. They had Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
The Steelers just a few years ago spent their first
round pick on a quarterback. It was only on their
team for two years. And let's just not forget if
you're surprised if you're saying, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
How of these guy? I thought there was.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Only two quarterbacks, the granddaddy of them all. Last year,
the Atlanta Falcons were on the clock and this actually happened.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Remember this, The Atlanta Falcons are considering Michael Pennix at
number eight, and I know they signed Kirk Cousin gave
one hundred million dollars guaranteed. It is all about the
succession at the most and more position.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
A lot of people think they're going to take a
defensive flavor.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
Maybe Edge Michael Pennox is very firmly in the mix
for the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
How about them Apples?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I was wondering when the chaos was going to start.
Apparently now Hatch to me in her Ean said this
hours ago, you brought this.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
He set it up as a possibility. This okay, really
gonna do this? And whatever happened to the Edge Rusher,
I thought that's where we were going with Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Here we go with the eighth pick in the twenty
twenty four NFL Draft, the Atlanta select Michael Powell Junior.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, there it is who why that is the first surprise?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Hey, now the NFL Draft, to say the least, that
really happened, all right, And I feel like that's my
parents when they talk about something in the sixties and
seventies that happened. It's like the world was different then.
I never saw the world the same. That really happened.
And you have guys on our broadcast who do this
for a living saying, are they really going to do this? Yes,
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there are going to be quarterback picks in this first
round that are on no mocks, that no insiders have
until that night, that don't make sense, that don't seem
like it fits, that no one has ever uttered. It
will happen. Don't be surprised when it does. Anybody saying
no way they yes they will. If Pennix went as
the fourth quarterback taken when they just bout one hundred million,
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anybody could go, that's the fun of it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
The quarterbacks always go, Tom Telseero.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Call.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
You mentioned that twenty twenty two draft when the Steelers
drafted Can Picket. That was the same thing in that
year was Malik Willis could go, Desmond Ridder, Matt Corral,
Kenny Pickett went twenty second, and then nobody went until
Ritter at seventy four. That's an outlier, But that draft
has come up when I've talked to people around in
the league of what potentially could happen because cam Ward, Okay,
cam Ward would project as a starter in any draft
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based on all the coaches and scouts and front office
people that I've talked to. If you put them in
last year's draft, people would have them. They wouldn't have
been that top group of three guys with Caleb Williams
and Jane Daniels and Drake May. They probably have him
somewhere in the Michael Pennix bo Nicks type of an
area there, and then you can draw line after cam Ward.
So the question within the league is when does that
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next group of quarterbacks start going. It could start as
high as number three if the Giants take Shador Sanders.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
I tend to be on Kyle's side on this.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
In terms of I think that there's so much talent
in this draft that these guys will go and in
ed olins Mock, I think there's a realistic scenario here
in the world where the Giants take Abdul Carter at
number three if they want to be aggressive and go
get a quarter back Jalen Milroe does make a lot
of sense. He hasn't trained up to number twenty four
with the Vikings to draft Milroe. Milroe has a very
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raw skill set. He is an unbelievable runner. He has
a huge arm. He just throws all fastballs and needs
a lot of work in terms of the touch and
the timing and the accuracy that it takes to thrive
as an NFL quarterback. Well, what better place than to
go in and have Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston there
to teach you how to be an NFL quarterback, but
also to buy you time so once you're on the field,
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you're actually ready to be out there.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
This is why I love Modo draft season and truly is.
It makes it so exciting. So many different things can happen,
all these different possibilities. We've seen mock drafts where there's
one quarterback taken in the first round. We now see
a mock draft where there's four quarterbacks taken in the
first round.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Our good friend Charles.
Speaker 9 (10:51):
Davis came out with the mock draft about a month
ago where the quarterbacks went one, two, and three in
the first round with the beauty of it is no
one really knows.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You really have no idea anything can happen, and that's.
Speaker 9 (11:01):
What makes it so intriguing and it gets everybody so
interesting and Thursday night is that something's going to happen
that no one had on their draft, war, their mock
draft or anything and all. It takes his one team
to fall in love with the guy to where the
domino start the fall. But looking at those four quarterbacks
and looking at Ed Holmes list, I love cam Ward
at number one. I think at this point in the process,
no one would a pose to that. I love them
paired up with Brian Callahan. I think Callahan is going
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to be a great fit for cam wod.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
We saw what he did when he's the offensive.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
Coordinator with the Cincinnati Bengals with Joe Burrow, he had
to overcome an injury. He helped them develop into the quarterback
that he is today. I think he can do the
same thing with cam Ward.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Now.
Speaker 9 (11:34):
Shador Sanders going to the New Orleans Saints at number nine.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I'm not opposed to this.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
I was a little torn at first, but I'm not
opposed to this. Because of the questions around Derek Carr
and his future with the New Orleans Saints. He's dealing
with an injury. They bring in Kellen Moore. I really
like Kellen Moore. I think he's going to do a
great job if he gets his hands on Shador Sanders,
a young coach, a player's coach, one of the best
offensive minds in football right now. I think he can
help Shador develop into a very good quarterback. But there's
still a lot of talented non quarterbacks at that number
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nine spot to where I'm torn if they go get
a court back then or they go a little bit later.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
They have six.
Speaker 9 (12:06):
Picks in the first four rounds and there's a lot
of very good mid round, second tier quarterbacks to where
they can go find a guy later on and go
get best fit at that spot now. The one that
I do love and I'm the biggest fan of on
this list is Jackson Dart at twenty one. I have
had Dart going to the Steelers at twenty one since
the combine since he kind of had that a sin.
He did a great job in that throwing session. I
think this would be perfect. I'd love to see him
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Arthur Smith's offense. It's so comforting as a quarterback to
have a great defense on the other side of the ball,
like the Steelers do year.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
In and year out.
Speaker 9 (12:33):
It takes that pressure off of you. Right now, the
Steelers only have Mason Rudolph on their roster. They also
have Skyler Thompson. They need to go address the quarterback situation.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
In this draft. We don't know what Aaron Rodgers are
going to do.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
I don't think the Steelers know what Aaron Rodgers are
going to do.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
They can't sit around and wait for that. And if
they don't draft the quarterback.
Speaker 9 (12:48):
At twenty one, they have to wait until eighty three
because that's where their next pick is.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
They don't have a second round pick.
Speaker 9 (12:53):
And if they get to eighty three, yes, there may
be a developmental guy, a guy that they like, a
guy that they can bring in and wait for a
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
But if he's not there, then they're stuck.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
And if they try to trade up, there's so many
questions of are they still going to be able to
get that guy.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Don't think they messed with any of that.
Speaker 9 (13:05):
I think they draft Dart at twenty one, get their
quarterback of the future for their.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Franchise and move on.
Speaker 9 (13:10):
And then the last one and most intriguing, like Tom
Pe was saying, was the Giants taking Jalen Molrow at
twenty four via trade with the Minnesota Vikings. I don't
love this. I could see it happening. I like Jalen
morro skill set, and we talked about it yesterday. Great arm,
all these things, great intangibles. He still got to developed
as a passer. But I think he'll still be there
at thirty four after twenty one with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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No other team in the first round is going to
draft a quarterback. The only team they have to worry
about is the Browns at thirty three. If they don't
take a quarterback at two, I don't think that happens.
I think they take Travis Hunter, but there could be
a team that could trade up and go get Jalen Melrow.
Remember he got invited to the draft, so there is
some buzz around that. But overall, I don't like the
Giants giving up the thirty fourth pick, the ninety ninth pick,
the one hundred and fifth pick to go get a
guy at twenty four. Like I said that, I think
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will be their ten picks later, right. So there's a
lot of things that can happen. You can see me
getting riled upright here. This is exactly why I love
these mock drafts, because so many different scenarios, so many
different things are going to happen, and I can't wait
for Thursday night. Buckle up, some crazy things are going
to happen, and I can't wait to watch it all on.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Four arms and hands inside the vehicle at all times
on draft night. And You're right, this is the time
of year when we just start to think that the
mocks are accurate and within their scripture. You mentioned Charles
Davis as for quarterbacks one, two, three, fine.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
CD knows a lot.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
But if someone had it in their mock last year
that Michael Pennix would go to the Falcons, they would
be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And yet it happened. Tom.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Something you said caught my interest. You mentioned Cleveland with
the two pick. I'm paraphrasing, but basically there's an assumption
building that it's going to be Travis Hunter. That one
still doesn't add up to me. I'm still looking at
Cleveland and I'm looking at their quarterback room, Deshaun Watson,
who's injured and disavowed by the owner Joe Flacco's on
his eighth team and eight years and his forty and
then Kenny Pickett, who's middling at best.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
They're just going to go to battle and they're going
to start.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
That's this season with that quarterback room, and Kevin Stefanski
has never hand picked his own quarterback in Cleveland. What
is the oxygen in the room for Cleveland taking a
quarterback at two instead of Hunter?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Well, this is also the argument for what he was
just talking about. Why if you're the Giants, just wait,
they'll still be there at thirty four. You don't know
who could trade up. You don't know who can be
moving up and trying to move into the bottom of
round one, and all those teams down in the last
let's say, eight to ten picks of round one. I've
talked to a lot of them. They're all asking the
same thing. Hey, do you think anyone's gonna call us
we be able to move back? Because you got this
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huge clump of players with pretty similar grades. Everybody's hoping
somebody gets desperate and pays a premium to move up
and get the fifty year option on a quarterback. So no,
I don't think that the Browns just simply roll out
there with the guys they've had. They appear to have
come to the conclusion that they were not going to
be able to get Kirk Cousins into trade.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
That was an option for him all along.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
You don't sign Joe Flacco if you're thinking there's a
good probability we're trading for Kirk Cousins during the draft.
But there's a bunch of these guys, and we can
even talk later in the show about the second group
of quarterbacks as well. It could come off the board
as early as round three. There are different options here.
Maybe Kevin Stefanski has hand picked his guy. It just
might not be one of the ones that we're talking
about at the Top Prospect.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Listen, you're all talking about movement and teams trading up
and taking a guy that it would be the first
time since twenty fourteen that no first round trades have
existed if we go all the way to Thursday night.
So this is a common occurrence, teams jumping each other
to get the guy that they want. As DJ said
in that clip from the Michael Pennock Junior Draft, we're
waiting for the cast to begin. It's not a matter
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of if it's when.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Growing on the run and.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
That's Hunter.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
Travis Hunter up, person, it's awake, what it's super pick
to Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
He just pulled a little hook.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
He made an incredible catch.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
End zone.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Hunter caught it, got a man O vice.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Honker.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
You can't watch those highlights enough.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Travis Hunter is one of the most electrifying and entry
prospects in this year's draft. He's a rare difference maker
on both sides of the ball. Coaches and GMS weighed
in on the potential return of the two way player
and the best way to coach a dual threat in
today's NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
The best player in college football clor has gone.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Thinks he actually could play every snap in an NFL game.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Superhuman pick for Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Ball, it's not recovered, Travis Hunter. Z out Hunter touchdown.
Speaker 11 (17:36):
He's done things that are one of one.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Put the cape on him already. You see better offensive
defense everywhere. It's another level of athlete. Colorado's two way
star is arrived and you just do that. We're about
to find out if a two two way player can
work in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Rails.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Can you say of a number twelve, what are you
at the next level both just like you saw me play?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
You want to do both? How many snaps in a
football game? Can you play all of them? If they
gave him a chance in an opportunity to do it?
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Travis Hunter didn't just play both ways in college. He
lived on the field, averaging one hundred and eleven point
five snaps per game.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And it's picked off.
Speaker 12 (18:16):
Hunter got it.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
But in a league built on specialization, can one man
really do it all?
Speaker 12 (18:21):
Then you cut on the tape he try to watch
him as a receivers like, oh, man, this kid can be.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
A starter receiver for sex.
Speaker 12 (18:29):
You put on the corner tape, he can be one
of the best corners in.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The draft as well.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Intercepted.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Wow, Travis Hunter.
Speaker 12 (18:36):
If you haven't seen an athlete of his caliber in
a very long time.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
The last true or two way player was Chuck Bannarik
in the nineteen fifties. Then Deon Sanders brought it back
in nineteen ninety six. Deon playing both ways this year
now the last man to do it just coached the
next one bold enough to try.
Speaker 13 (18:57):
He had a pretty good mentor uh In Dion and
Dion played both not full time but he played both
and an All pro in four different positions if you
count the return game.
Speaker 10 (19:13):
The NFL is built on complex playbooks and unrelenting intensity,
So how hard would it be to play both ways
in today's game? By marvel at just the capability, the
amount of mental toughness, physical toughness that it takes to
have that type of condition.
Speaker 14 (19:31):
Were talking about seventeen games and the amount of wear
and tear you go through on one side of the
ball over that time, and imagine just doubling that, So
you're really playing the equivalent of what is two seasons
worth of football if you're playing both.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Sides of the balls.
Speaker 15 (19:43):
Again, it's a huge accomplishment. But then to do it
physically in the NFL is another step. If you will,
your body and the challenge of being that good of
an athlete with the athletes at are level, plus the
physical pounding that you take at.
Speaker 16 (19:57):
This level, there's so much detail in the volume of
stuff that these guys have to know at our level
is different than at the college level.
Speaker 12 (20:10):
Trophy winner has done it again.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That kind of opens your mind that you can do this.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Are you willing just to roll the dice and say
this guy's so good, I'm gonna put him.
Speaker 15 (20:20):
Out there on both sides, and we.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Hope you can stay healthy the most time of the
player play college football.
Speaker 17 (20:26):
Has got the big touchdown touchdown Colorado.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
All of this begs to question, if this one of
one talent ended up on your roster, how would you
coach him.
Speaker 12 (20:39):
A lot of people want to make him focus on
one side or the other. I would say, you just
throw him out there and see what he can absorb.
Speaker 11 (20:46):
So much of your preparation throughout the course of the
week to be efficient, there's separation of meetings where there's
offense and defensive meetings going on at the same time.
When you're practicing. You know there's certain parts of emphasis.
Speaker 13 (20:58):
To say he can't. I'm not going to put that
stamp on that. I would probably create a package for
him and been limited to start, just to see how
he handles it.
Speaker 11 (21:08):
I would imagine that projection would be somebody's going to
play him on one side, heavily spot play him on
the other. He'd have to show me that he can't
play both. If he was a RAM.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Talk with the Roundup presented by Roundup for Lawns, don't
tempt Sean mcmay with the good time. If you had
your hands on Travis Hunter, what would you do? The
Colorado playmaker on the field has been electric and now
he tops NFL Networks Daniel Jeremiah's top one hundred and
fifty prospects. This list has athletes upon athletes, crazy guys
that are going to make a difference on whatever team
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and building that they are in next season.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
But Kyle, when you.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Look at DJ's list, the most recent one, what stands
out to you?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I look it right there at number seven, because everybody
looks at number six.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Tyler Warren is awesome.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
We love him.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
He's going to get drafted very high. He was, of
course the John McKie Award winner. Guess who is the
John mcke Award runner up, Colston Lovelin from Michigan who
is sitting.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
There at the seventh overall prospect as.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
A tight end and he doesn't get talked about because
of Tyler Warren.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
This dude is six six.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Two point fifty, runs great routes, can line up a
bunch of different places, and has all of that intangible,
incredible background stuff that you love in a tight end.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Who's going to be a star.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Namely that he grows up on a farm in Idaho
in the town of Bliss, Bliss. His name is Loveland
and he grew up in Bliss. It sounds like it's
all happy. I love this.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Six six two fifteen. And he's not going to get.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Drafted before Tyler Warren, and he shouldn't get drafted. But
he's going to be a potential top ten to fifteen
draft pick ats tight end with very little pub because
there's that shiny object of Tyler Warren, who again he
lost the Imaci Trophy too, But I love the dude.
Massive strong, huge games across the board. Some teams get
very lucky to get him.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I'm going to go to a deep cut. I'm going
to go to a deep cut.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Right here.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
DJ has Jalen Miler we've been talking about for the
last couple of days as a first round pick at
number eighty six on his list at eighty five. He's
got a different quarterback. We haven't talked at all about
Will Howard from Ohio State. Obviously, he's coming off of
a national championship win. He's a big dude. He's one
everywhere he's been talking with coaches. There are concerns about
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some things. Mechanically, he just doesn't generate a whole lot
of velocity.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
For such a big guy.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
The ball will kind of fade out on him, almost
like a golf slice. At times he kind of gets
his front leg locked. But there are tools there that
make him intriguing.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
He's part of a.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
The lack of a better term, third tier of quarterbacks
in this draft that are all people that every college
football fan knows. It's Quinn yours with the two college
football playoffs at Texas, It's Kyle mccorda played at Ohio
State and.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Then led the nation and pass at Syracuse.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
It's Dylan Gabriel from Oregon, Riley Leonard from Notre Dame,
and Will Howard from Ohio State. I believe, based on
my conversations around the league, all those guys will go
somewhere between the third and fifth rounds. There's reasons from
a scout in perspective that they're not going to go
higher than that. Would you got guys who are that
productive and won so many games in college, you can
always think maybe one of these guys will end up
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being the surprise. And obviously DJ's high on Will Howard.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, I'm going at the top of that list.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
I think the most intriguing thing for me is Travis
Hunter now overtaking Abdul Carter for that number one spot.
Daniel Jeremiah has done five lists now, but the first
four when it came to prospect rankings, the one thing
that was consistent was that Abdul.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Carter was number one.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
Now two days before the draft, Travis Hunter overtakes him. Look,
there's a lot of people that do these prospect rankings
and these mock drafts. They do a great job, and
they do their due diligence. But I trust Daniel Jeremiah
more so than probably anyone else when it comes to
these lists. So you may think, Okay, it's a small thing,
Travis Hunter at one, Abdul Carter two.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
They're both going to get drafted very highly. It doesn't
mean a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
To me.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
It carries a little bit more weight. It tells me
two things.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
One, it says, like we just watched in the video,
that these teams and these coaches truly believe that Travis
Hunter can be a legit two way player in the NFL.
Because DJ mentioned that the reason he put Hunter at
one now in Abdul Carter at two was that his
value went up because he.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Can play on both sides of the football.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
We've known that this whole time, but now, all of
a sudden, that means a little bit more. The second
thing is it tells me that it is now a
surefire thing that the Cleveland Browns are going to draft
Travis Hunter with that second overball pick. They view him
as the best available after Tennessee takes cam Ward with
a number one pick. There is something interesting about that,
and I think it's conflicting. Andrew Berry, throughout this entire
process has said I view Travis Hunter as a wide
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receiver first and a dB second. He said, quote his
first home will be wide receiver, his second home will
be defensive back.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Travis Hunter came out and said.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
I would rather quit football if a team's not going
to let me plan offense and let me play on defense.
Is this going to push the Browns away from wanting
to draft him.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I don't think so.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
But is it going to create maybe a little bit
of conflict if they do draft Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
He comes into the building and.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
They say, hey, you're going to play wide receiver with
a little bit of dB and he said, no, I
want to play both equally. That's not what Andrew Berry said.
He said he's a wide receiver first in the dB second. Again,
I think they're interchangeable though at the top, I love
Abdul Carter's game, I love Travis Hunter's game. Wherever they
both end up on Thursday, I think they're going to
make a team immediately better and I can't wait to
watch him play on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean, I'm not saying that Daniel Jeremiah has editorial
impact on the graphic that we show for his list,
but bring it up again because at this point, who's
making that decision, As Kyle said yesterday, is that wide
receiver listed first.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Now we are going into the.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Small font on the screen next to the number one.
NFL Media Group puts wide receiver first, cornerback second. So
Travis Hunter, he wants them both in bold and equally
as heavy as we look at DJ's final top ten
prospects lists. Of course, catch DJ's show Wednesday night, the
night before the first round of the Draft, and he
has Shador Sanders at twenty more GMTB.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
When we return, we're gonna do angrun prospects we're gonna
do Anground watch list, and those gentlemen, these amateur athletes
have not earned.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The screens, they have not earned the scepter, but maybe
someday they will. Damien, Hello, you had me.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I like Damien's I like luciferst.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I came off.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
No, it's still he was, Yes, Curriculus, come on, Damien
on a golden He's my man, Damian Pierce, from.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
The youth to Texas, the Texas.
Speaker 12 (27:10):
You're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Wield it wielded, Damiens, take your feet. This is my man.
There he is. He's massive, he's got the.
Speaker 17 (27:18):
Jordan logo, he's got his cool little play card here,
and he has absolute look of death right there.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
In his eyes. He's gonna jump right here me.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
That's a Florida State seminole just holding on to a gator.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
It's an amazing run. BA. Well, that's a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
The state of Indiana, Indianapoli.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Has a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
His name is Dandy Richardson. Why the cceptor at Richardson?
My man, you got it? You retirement all right.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
That's just a couple of guys who have been scouted
on the Angry Runs watch List and the flames here
and they ended up winning the scepter on the real
deal NFL Sundays.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
All right, guys, here we do there, we go.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I do it every single year, and it is such
a special time of year because these players, these college
kids get to realize their dreams entering the NFL.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
No winning this the.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Angry Run Sceptor, which is given away now for almost
nine years, I think, and I have surveyed the entire land.
I have five guys who I don't think are necessarily
the best running backs. They're the angriest, the five most
likely to win a Scepter in their rookie season.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Are you ready to do this with me?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I'm not screaming in running around. This is a little
bit like Anger Run's unplugged, never mind the soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
You know why, because they haven't done it yet.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
I will not be giving out a sceptor today.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
They have not earned it. These are still amateurs and
I'm rooting for them. But you know, damn well, if
I'm going to do a list of.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
The guys who are gonna get an Angry Run Sceptor
in their rookie year, we are starting with this guy.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
This guy could be all five on the list. My man,
Cam Scataboo.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Not Skeatuo Scataboo. It doesn't make sense, but that's why
I like it. My opinion, that's the best player in
the draft. In the news he was going to the
Titans in a pre draft visit. I think he's going
because they're gonna draft them number.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
One, or they should. This is Skataboo in Arizona.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
State doing all kinds of hilarious things whenever he wanted.
He's a short, stout ball of butcher knives and he
says things like this quote, I'm going to punish the
defender because they don't want to do it for four
quarters and he's right.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
And I love this guy, literally, my favorite player.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
In the draft.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Check out in this play, he's doing this in some
kind of hotpants.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
He has one pant leg down the left side and
then he's wearing Daisy Dukes on the right side. He's
got a full foot.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Above his kneecap with no pads whatsoever. Scataboo, what is that?
What are you? I'll tell you what he is.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
He is a sun devil legends, and I think the
number one most likely.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Guy to get a scepter next year.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I love Cam Skataboo maybe my favorite player ever in any.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Draft in history. I'm not even exaggerating because I would
never do that, but number two the Thoroughbread.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Just because this guy is the top rated running back
on the does not mean I'm gonna excuse him from
my list.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Bring him up Poise State Blue Turf.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Ashton GenZ, guys, he does it all.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
He's got the breakaway, he's got.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
The elusiveness, and you bet your fast, he's got the anger.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Bring it in.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Start the clips of Ashton GenZ. Bam, bam, He's down.
No he's not, and then he breaks away. Candidly, I
don't really care about the breakaway speed. That's not what
this segment is about.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
You can have those in your bucket Brooks and Daniel
Jeremiah segments.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I care about this and this and this.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
That's how you end up in my segment quoting Ashton GenZ.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Once I'm running that football, this special gear kicks in
and it's like.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I'm ten years old again and I'm making the older
kids look silly. I turn into this unstoppable beast. Shout
out to the older kids.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
You tried to tackle ten year old Ashton Gentsy you
probably look like that guy in the goal line. Quoting
Nashon GenZ again, it's tackle football. You know what I'm saying.
I draft the guy they can't tack.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oh, ash and I could kiss you. I love again.
Don't really care about the breakaway speed.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
That's great, not for this segment. Now, you know Ashon GenZ.
You watch itton college football last year.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
You know Cam Skataboo.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I want to give you some more guys that maybe
aren't going to be top ten picks, like gent Is.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Damien. We got a Damien, Bring them up, Bring up up.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
I love a Damien Damien Martinez from Miami. I don't
know what it is about Damien's but there are more
angry runners up per capita named Damien than any other name.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
If you're Damien, you can't be.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Like ah, you know, I work at a pet store
or I'm a substitute teacher.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Name's Damien. No, you do things like this, and my
brother Lucifer and peels above.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
And it's an incredible thing that Damien Martinez doese over
five hundred carries in college still over six yards per carry.
If I had to guess, I would say it's six
points sixty six yards per carry as he is just dragging.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Dude, he is what you.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Call a banger. He is a banger.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
One A scout says that Damien Martinez, check this out.
Old Schoolers reminds him of Natron means Natron means business
from the Old Chargers back in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I'll tell you what reminds me of.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
He reminds me of a taller Jalen Warren, a guy
who is just looking for contact. There could be no
one in front of him, and he will zag just
to find someone to run over.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I love Damien Martinez. He is on the list.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
But if you've watched Anky runs for all these years,
it's not just running backs all right, it's defenders, it's
wide receivers as quarterbacks, and it's tight ends spring them up.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I don't care what lift he's on. I cannot have
this guy not on my list.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Tyler Warren Penn State tight End. It is an automatic
entry to my watch list, not only me because the
style of play, but because the style of mentality.
Speaker 17 (32:54):
Quote I wear forty four because my dad watched John
Riggins play and told me this is how I want
you to run the ball.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
First of all, shout out to mister Warren for not
only being a hands on involved father and your son's career,
but also in teaching him the classics. This is like
never mind the CD, the tape, this is getting out
the vinyl.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
There's Rigo. That's the man he's showing Tyler Warren.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I love the fact that a guy his age is saying, yeah,
John Riggins is my muse. It's like someone picking up
a guitar right now in college and saying I really
love Jimmy Page, Like wow.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
You appreciate Jimmy Page. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
You know what I'll say, I appreciate a comp mister
Warren might have John Riggins.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Here's my comp for Tyler Warren. You know where I'm going.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Bring up Jeremy Shocky and fire in the hole, Shocky, Amenace,
lookout boom.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
This is how I see Tyler Warren. Get to the
second highlight.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
It's one of the angriest runs of all time, and
it has no business being in a game of this
lack of magnitude. Get to a look at a peelback block,
get to Shocky against the Texans.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You know it, I want it, And this is what
I see Tyler Warren doing.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
He gets a pass from the Bachelor and he hands
out roses all the way down the side.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Of look out head. That's a ridiculous run. And why
are we showing it?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
A because it's cratuitous and I love Jeremy Shockey highlights.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
B It's how I see Tyler Warren in the league.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Wait, look at straight ahead on the sideline losing his mind.
Didn't I say it wasn't gonna scream this segment. It's
a ridiculous use of energy for me in the preseason
right now in the off season. But I'm doing it anyway.
And we got one more. We have four, I promise five.
Look at these flames. I'm starting to sweat us almost
like the flames are real, like smell of.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Vision or something.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Bring them up, number five. You might have watched a little.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Something called the National Title Game. Quin Shawn Judkins, Ohio
State running back, very simply stiff arming his way through
the fighting irish so casual.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You sit, Oh, that's beautiful. That is a beautiful technical
shot to the ear hole. This is like a prime bam.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Peel your head back like a pez dispenser and then
run right into the goal line, touchdown, big time runs
and big time games, and now we're gonna do it
against these tough guys from Iowa.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Not so tough to me.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Quinn Shawn Judkins has to be on the list. Finishes runs,
gets fired up on the sideline. He's a national champion.
I love it. Look at the horseshoe in the background.
Touchdown buck guys, get.
Speaker 9 (35:22):
To it, get it.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
That's Quinn Shawn Judkins. Guys.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
That is my list, and I was limited to five.
I could have done one hundred, and we don't have
the time and I don't have the voice for it
right now, but I got it. Omario at Hampton from
UNC I love you, Kyle mnung Gui.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
From Rutgers, I love you. But those are my dudes,
from left to right.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
You got genty, You got my sweet sweet scataboo Quin
Shawn Jenkins, we got Damien, We got Tyler to finish
off the list. Now, these are no guarantees. I don't
know if these guys will win fifty seppers or zero.
But if I was a betting man and I'm not
my bosses, I would say these are the five that
is my watch list for twenty twenty five and I
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love it.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Where are we going? We're going to Green Bay, We're
going to LA We're all over the country today. Let's go. Kyle.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
First of all, can you confirm or deny the fact
that you are wearing a seatbelt right now? I'm very
surprised that you actually stay seated in your chair that
entire time.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
I'm actually super glued to my seat. I was allowed
because then I get out of the shot.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I'm not supposed to do that. I'm supposed to be
containing myself.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Shamian.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
These guys, they have not earned it in the league.
I don't just hand these out to high school kids
and college because it's NFL only. So that's where we're at.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You know this is an authentic list because while you
could have flirted with Colston Loveland being on the list
like all Love and No Hate in All Anger, you
went with what you believe with the Tyler Warren Anger
Runs experience.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
And I love it.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Kyle, well done, Thank you.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
I can't believe that that was just preseason Prase. Oh
you got me fired up, man. I was so ready
for it to go all in and I can't wait now.
And I will say this, you and my opinion, have
to be the best TV personality in all of football
when it comes from boom talk shows are doing this stuff. Yeah,
that was so well done. I was so excited, and
then I will this morning I put a big red
circle around the angry run segments. I've seen so much
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about it when you guys do it during the season,
I couldn't wait.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
And that absolutely delivered broth Don. Yeah, thanks Cody, Thanks Cody,
I was it.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
The best part about angry runs to me, besides Kyle dropping,
Jesse Palmer and Pez Dispenser references, is that these angry
runs come in all shapes and sizes. You get the big,
bruising tight end like Tyler Warren. You got camp Scataboy,
who somehow was only five nine and two hundred and
fifteen pounds. I think one hundred and fifty those pounds
are in his thighs. But you got Damien down there
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at Miami who doesn't look.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Like he should be an angry runner. It looks more
like Le'Veon bellis running over people. I just love it. Everybody.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
You don't have to be the biggest guy to be
the angriest guy, which is something I hear a lot.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Kyle, you know who.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
Cam's scataboo reminds me of a guy named Peyton Hillis.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh no, no, Kyle's angry.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
No trying to trigger me.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
You're trying to trigger me.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
There was like fifty pounds more and seven inches tall
than Cam scattaboo. They have two things in common. They
both play running back and you know the other one.
How dare you, Kessler try to trigger me?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Don't do that.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Now we're doing a meta angry Coast and angry runs.
Let's get out of here, guys. Thank you for the
kind words. Damian Martinez, I love you.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I love all of you. Guys.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Go get it, Go get drafted, and then go and
truck every single person in front of you as syingent
to you included. Stay healthy and stay angry, my friends,
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Roundup
for Lones. I'm Jamierdahl, joined by NFL quarterback formerly in
the NFL, Cody Gessler. We've got NFL at we're inside
of Tom Telisaro, he's in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
And then Kyle Brant.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Normally, I have you worried that you don't have a
normal rotation of T shirts going on? But I know
there is a specific reason why you're wearing that one today.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
That's right, We're going to do our angry runs watch
list for the twenty twenty five draft. These are the
angry sobs of tomorrow. Never mind who's on the top fifty,
top one fifty. I don't care where you get drafted
or if you get drafted. It's the prospects where we're
going to truck the most people. That's how we do it.
That's our show. Tello Sero's and Lambeau. It looks beautiful,
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Let's do it. Jimfbe starts now, Good Morning Footbar.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
That's right, we're just two days away from the twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Five NFL Draft.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
In green Bay.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Cody and myself sit here in Los Angeles, Kyles in
New York City and Tom Pellisero. You have the sun
shining upon you in Green Bay. You look great, my friends.
It is not dreary whatsoever. Can you take us outside Lambeau?
What is construction looking like? Just give fans a beat
on how we are looking at the draft stage and
the setup before Thursday's first round.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Well, first of all, while it looks like I'm on
the surface of the sun, it's thirty six degrees out there.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
This is the.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Classic Green Bay fake out mid April day where it
looks really nice and then you go, I should have
worn another layer here. But it's supposed to be nice
the next couple of days here. Hopefully that holds up
through the draft weekend. The main draft stage is out
on the east side of the stadium, which is over
my right shoulder. Back there, it is almost fully up.
You basically have to take a golf cart to traverse
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anywhere around the stadium.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Right now, all the road are shut down.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
They're anticipating like a quarter million people to be in
Green Bay, in a town of like one hundred and
seven thousand people. It is going to be a massive,
massive type of event. And I will say this too,
being here a couple of days, people could not be nicer,
They could not be more informed, they could not be
more prepared for this. Green Bay is ready for this
moment of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's all we want fans for the draft to be
is nice and informed. Tom, the thirty sixth threes didn't
keep you from flirting with that button on that shirt.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I see you there, buddy.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
What are the Giants when we look at the NFL
Draft doing with the third overall pick. We hear about
all of the visits that they've done. We're looking at
the workouts right now. It sound for the league block
pal Sero number three overall pick. New York Giants take
us in right now.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
The feeling within the league, as it has been in
recent weeks, is the Giants are weighing a couple of
options here. One is to take the best player available,
which many around the league believe at that point would
be Abdul Carter, the edgeresher from Penn State. The other
option would be drafting eight quarterback, most notably Shador Sanders,
who the Giants have put a ton of work into
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They brought him out to New Jersey, they went to
his showcase, they did a private workout with him last week.
They were at every practice that they could go to,
every single game. They have done as much work on
Shador Sanders as any team on any prospect in this draft.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
When you get to these types though, of.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Major organizational decisions, it involves a lot of people from
every level of the organization, including ownership. Now we had
Mark Ross on the Insiders last night. Mark worked in
the Giants organization a long time. I point blank asked him,
has John Mayer ever put his thumb on the scale
and overridden what the GM wanted to do? He said,
never in his experience. But certainly any owner who's going
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to be committing potentially to a franchise quarterback is going
to want to be involved in those conversations. There's still
some variants here. We presume the cam Or goes number
one to Tennessee. We think that Travis Hunter goes two
to Cleveland. That could still change, But if those are
the first two picks, really the options for the Giants
would seem to be Shador Sanders at number three or
take an abdual Carter and then figure out if maybe
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there's an opportunity later in Day one or day two
of the draft to get that quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Oh my gosh, those are two names to have within
your building representing, but the experience in terms of who
you get is vastly different. Reports have been all over
the place for which quarterback prospect as we focus on
that position that the Giants want. Their head coach Brian
Dable was asked if the organization is aligned on player
evaluations in this year's group.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Take a listen.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
There's really good communication, and not just with the quarterbacks,
with each position.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's okay to disagree.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
You're not going to be disagreeable, and everybody has thoughts
and opinions of what they evaluate and what they see,
and there's great conversation. I mean, I really, I really
enjoy our process of how we do it with the
assistant coaches, with the area of scouts, with the national scouts,
sometimes the pro scouts, with Joe myself, the people that
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are kind of in Joe's leader ship group are coordinators.
There's a lot of good give and take, and at
the end of the day, when you're drafting a player,
everybody's on board, with who you draft and the process
of which we go through.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Why is that my new parenting tactic. It's okay to disagree,
you are not going to be disagreeable. NFL dot com
lead draft writer Eric at Holme released his mock three
point zero and he's got four first round quarterbacks being selected.
Compared to the sixth last year. That number doesn't seem
as crazy, but the names and where they might go
certainly are. You've got number one off the board, cam
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Ward going to the Tennessee Titans, this again according to.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Eric at HOLMNFL dot com.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Chadur going to the Saints.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Jackson Dart heading to Pittsburgh, which is fascinating, waiting for
Ann Rogers. You only have Mason Rudolph on the board
right now, and then Jalen Milroe perhaps in the second
round going to the Giants. Kyle, your thoughts on these
four quarterbacks going in the first round on Thursday when
you look at that list, well.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I'm surprised.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I'm surprised that there's four, and I'm surprised that there's
not five. Here's the deal, guys, I'm going to get
on a plane tomorrow from New York to Green Bay
it'll be the ninth draft that I've attended. It's a
really really cool privilege if you're new to this, like
to really consuming NFL media year round. It's very adorable
that anyone has the naivete still about quarterbacks in the
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first round.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That naivete is saying.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
This isn't a quarterback year, this isn't a quarterback draft.
That is a March thing to say. It's a February
thing to say. We're in late April. The quarterbacks get drafted.
Even if it's the allegedly worst quarterback year of the century,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just a quick piece of history as we prepare for
Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
The Broncos once traded up in the first round to
get Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
The Browns once took a twenty eight year old man
in the first rounded quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
The Bills traded up twice, two separate times, to get
Josh Allen. The Packers drafted a quarterback who led.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
The nation interceptions in the first round. They had Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
The Steelers just a few years ago spent their first
round pick on a quarterback. It was only on their
team for two years. And let's just not forget if
you're surprised if you're saying, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
How of these guy? I thought there was.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Only two quarterbacks, the granddaddy of them all. Last year,
the Atlanta Falcons were on the clock and this actually happened.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Remember this, The Atlanta Falcons are considering Michael Pennix at
number eight, and I know they signed Kirk Cousin gave
one hundred million dollars guaranteed. It is all about the
succession at the most and more position.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
A lot of people think they're going to take a
defensive flavor.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
Maybe Edge Michael Pennox is very firmly in the mix
for the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
How about them Apples?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I was wondering when the chaos was going to start.
Apparently now Hatch to me in her Ean said this
hours ago, you brought this.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
He set it up as a possibility. This okay, really
gonna do this? And whatever happened to the Edge Rusher,
I thought that's where we were going with Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Here we go with the eighth pick in the twenty
twenty four NFL Draft, the Atlanta select Michael Powell Junior.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, there it is who why that is the first surprise?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Hey, now the NFL Draft, to say the least, that
really happened, all right, And I feel like that's my
parents when they talk about something in the sixties and
seventies that happened. It's like the world was different then.
I never saw the world the same. That really happened.
And you have guys on our broadcast who do this
for a living saying, are they really going to do this? Yes,
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there are going to be quarterback picks in this first
round that are on no mocks, that no insiders have
until that night, that don't make sense, that don't seem
like it fits, that no one has ever uttered. It
will happen. Don't be surprised when it does. Anybody saying
no way they yes they will. If Pennix went as
the fourth quarterback taken when they just bout one hundred million,
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anybody could go, that's the fun of it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
The quarterbacks always go, Tom Telseero.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Call.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
You mentioned that twenty twenty two draft when the Steelers
drafted Can Picket. That was the same thing in that
year was Malik Willis could go, Desmond Ridder, Matt Corral,
Kenny Pickett went twenty second, and then nobody went until
Ritter at seventy four. That's an outlier, But that draft
has come up when I've talked to people around in
the league of what potentially could happen because cam Ward, Okay,
cam Ward would project as a starter in any draft
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based on all the coaches and scouts and front office
people that I've talked to. If you put them in
last year's draft, people would have them. They wouldn't have
been that top group of three guys with Caleb Williams
and Jane Daniels and Drake May. They probably have him
somewhere in the Michael Pennix bo Nicks type of an
area there, and then you can draw line after cam Ward.
So the question within the league is when does that
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next group of quarterbacks start going. It could start as
high as number three if the Giants take Shador Sanders.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
I tend to be on Kyle's side on this.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
In terms of I think that there's so much talent
in this draft that these guys will go and in
ed olins Mock, I think there's a realistic scenario here
in the world where the Giants take Abdul Carter at
number three if they want to be aggressive and go
get a quarter back Jalen Milroe does make a lot
of sense. He hasn't trained up to number twenty four
with the Vikings to draft Milroe. Milroe has a very
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raw skill set. He is an unbelievable runner. He has
a huge arm. He just throws all fastballs and needs
a lot of work in terms of the touch and
the timing and the accuracy that it takes to thrive
as an NFL quarterback. Well, what better place than to
go in and have Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston there
to teach you how to be an NFL quarterback, but
also to buy you time so once you're on the field,
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you're actually ready to be out there.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
This is why I love Modo draft season and truly is.
It makes it so exciting. So many different things can happen,
all these different possibilities. We've seen mock drafts where there's
one quarterback taken in the first round. We now see
a mock draft where there's four quarterbacks taken in the
first round.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Our good friend Charles.
Speaker 9 (10:51):
Davis came out with the mock draft about a month
ago where the quarterbacks went one, two, and three in
the first round with the beauty of it is no
one really knows.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You really have no idea anything can happen, and that's.
Speaker 9 (11:01):
What makes it so intriguing and it gets everybody so
interesting and Thursday night is that something's going to happen
that no one had on their draft, war, their mock
draft or anything and all. It takes his one team
to fall in love with the guy to where the
domino start the fall. But looking at those four quarterbacks
and looking at Ed Holmes list, I love cam Ward
at number one. I think at this point in the process,
no one would a pose to that. I love them
paired up with Brian Callahan. I think Callahan is going
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to be a great fit for cam wod.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
We saw what he did when he's the offensive.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
Coordinator with the Cincinnati Bengals with Joe Burrow, he had
to overcome an injury. He helped them develop into the quarterback
that he is today. I think he can do the
same thing with cam Ward.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Now.
Speaker 9 (11:34):
Shador Sanders going to the New Orleans Saints at number nine.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I'm not opposed to this.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
I was a little torn at first, but I'm not
opposed to this. Because of the questions around Derek Carr
and his future with the New Orleans Saints. He's dealing
with an injury. They bring in Kellen Moore. I really
like Kellen Moore. I think he's going to do a
great job if he gets his hands on Shador Sanders,
a young coach, a player's coach, one of the best
offensive minds in football right now. I think he can
help Shador develop into a very good quarterback. But there's
still a lot of talented non quarterbacks at that number
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nine spot to where I'm torn if they go get
a court back then or they go a little bit later.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
They have six.
Speaker 9 (12:06):
Picks in the first four rounds and there's a lot
of very good mid round, second tier quarterbacks to where
they can go find a guy later on and go
get best fit at that spot now. The one that
I do love and I'm the biggest fan of on
this list is Jackson Dart at twenty one. I have
had Dart going to the Steelers at twenty one since
the combine since he kind of had that a sin.
He did a great job in that throwing session. I
think this would be perfect. I'd love to see him
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Arthur Smith's offense. It's so comforting as a quarterback to
have a great defense on the other side of the ball,
like the Steelers do year.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
In and year out.
Speaker 9 (12:33):
It takes that pressure off of you. Right now, the
Steelers only have Mason Rudolph on their roster. They also
have Skyler Thompson. They need to go address the quarterback situation.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
In this draft. We don't know what Aaron Rodgers are
going to do.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
I don't think the Steelers know what Aaron Rodgers are
going to do.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
They can't sit around and wait for that. And if
they don't draft the quarterback.
Speaker 9 (12:48):
At twenty one, they have to wait until eighty three
because that's where their next pick is.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
They don't have a second round pick.
Speaker 9 (12:53):
And if they get to eighty three, yes, there may
be a developmental guy, a guy that they like, a
guy that they can bring in and wait for a
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
But if he's not there, then they're stuck.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
And if they try to trade up, there's so many
questions of are they still going to be able to
get that guy.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Don't think they messed with any of that.
Speaker 9 (13:05):
I think they draft Dart at twenty one, get their
quarterback of the future for their.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Franchise and move on.
Speaker 9 (13:10):
And then the last one and most intriguing, like Tom
Pe was saying, was the Giants taking Jalen Molrow at
twenty four via trade with the Minnesota Vikings. I don't
love this. I could see it happening. I like Jalen
morro skill set, and we talked about it yesterday. Great arm,
all these things, great intangibles. He still got to developed
as a passer. But I think he'll still be there
at thirty four after twenty one with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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No other team in the first round is going to
draft a quarterback. The only team they have to worry
about is the Browns at thirty three. If they don't
take a quarterback at two, I don't think that happens.
I think they take Travis Hunter, but there could be
a team that could trade up and go get Jalen Melrow.
Remember he got invited to the draft, so there is
some buzz around that. But overall, I don't like the
Giants giving up the thirty fourth pick, the ninety ninth pick,
the one hundred and fifth pick to go get a
guy at twenty four. Like I said that, I think
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will be their ten picks later, right. So there's a
lot of things that can happen. You can see me
getting riled upright here. This is exactly why I love
these mock drafts, because so many different scenarios, so many
different things are going to happen, and I can't wait
for Thursday night. Buckle up, some crazy things are going
to happen, and I can't wait to watch it all on.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Four arms and hands inside the vehicle at all times
on draft night. And You're right, this is the time
of year when we just start to think that the
mocks are accurate and within their scripture. You mentioned Charles
Davis as for quarterbacks one, two, three, fine.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
CD knows a lot.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
But if someone had it in their mock last year
that Michael Pennix would go to the Falcons, they would
be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And yet it happened. Tom.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Something you said caught my interest. You mentioned Cleveland with
the two pick. I'm paraphrasing, but basically there's an assumption
building that it's going to be Travis Hunter. That one
still doesn't add up to me. I'm still looking at
Cleveland and I'm looking at their quarterback room, Deshaun Watson,
who's injured and disavowed by the owner Joe Flacco's on
his eighth team and eight years and his forty and
then Kenny Pickett, who's middling at best.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
They're just going to go to battle and they're going
to start.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
That's this season with that quarterback room, and Kevin Stefanski
has never hand picked his own quarterback in Cleveland. What
is the oxygen in the room for Cleveland taking a
quarterback at two instead of Hunter?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Well, this is also the argument for what he was
just talking about. Why if you're the Giants, just wait,
they'll still be there at thirty four. You don't know
who could trade up. You don't know who can be
moving up and trying to move into the bottom of
round one, and all those teams down in the last
let's say, eight to ten picks of round one. I've
talked to a lot of them. They're all asking the
same thing. Hey, do you think anyone's gonna call us
we be able to move back? Because you got this
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huge clump of players with pretty similar grades. Everybody's hoping
somebody gets desperate and pays a premium to move up
and get the fifty year option on a quarterback. So no,
I don't think that the Browns just simply roll out
there with the guys they've had. They appear to have
come to the conclusion that they were not going to
be able to get Kirk Cousins into trade.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
That was an option for him all along.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
You don't sign Joe Flacco if you're thinking there's a
good probability we're trading for Kirk Cousins during the draft.
But there's a bunch of these guys, and we can
even talk later in the show about the second group
of quarterbacks as well. It could come off the board
as early as round three. There are different options here.
Maybe Kevin Stefanski has hand picked his guy. It just
might not be one of the ones that we're talking
about at the Top Prospect.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Listen, you're all talking about movement and teams trading up
and taking a guy that it would be the first
time since twenty fourteen that no first round trades have
existed if we go all the way to Thursday night.
So this is a common occurrence, teams jumping each other
to get the guy that they want. As DJ said
in that clip from the Michael Pennock Junior Draft, we're
waiting for the cast to begin. It's not a matter
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of if it's when.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Growing on the run and.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
That's Hunter.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
Travis Hunter up, person, it's awake, what it's super pick
to Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
He just pulled a little hook.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
He made an incredible catch.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
End zone.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Hunter caught it, got a man O vice.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Honker.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
You can't watch those highlights enough.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Travis Hunter is one of the most electrifying and entry
prospects in this year's draft. He's a rare difference maker
on both sides of the ball. Coaches and GMS weighed
in on the potential return of the two way player
and the best way to coach a dual threat in
today's NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
The best player in college football clor has gone.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Thinks he actually could play every snap in an NFL game.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Superhuman pick for Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Ball, it's not recovered, Travis Hunter. Z out Hunter touchdown.
Speaker 11 (17:36):
He's done things that are one of one.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Put the cape on him already. You see better offensive
defense everywhere. It's another level of athlete. Colorado's two way
star is arrived and you just do that. We're about
to find out if a two two way player can
work in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Rails.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Can you say of a number twelve, what are you
at the next level both just like you saw me play?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
You want to do both? How many snaps in a
football game? Can you play all of them? If they
gave him a chance in an opportunity to do it?
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Travis Hunter didn't just play both ways in college. He
lived on the field, averaging one hundred and eleven point
five snaps per game.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And it's picked off.
Speaker 12 (18:16):
Hunter got it.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
But in a league built on specialization, can one man
really do it all?
Speaker 12 (18:21):
Then you cut on the tape he try to watch
him as a receivers like, oh, man, this kid can be.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
A starter receiver for sex.
Speaker 12 (18:29):
You put on the corner tape, he can be one
of the best corners in.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The draft as well.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Intercepted.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Wow, Travis Hunter.
Speaker 12 (18:36):
If you haven't seen an athlete of his caliber in
a very long time.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
The last true or two way player was Chuck Bannarik
in the nineteen fifties. Then Deon Sanders brought it back
in nineteen ninety six. Deon playing both ways this year
now the last man to do it just coached the
next one bold enough to try.
Speaker 13 (18:57):
He had a pretty good mentor uh In Dion and
Dion played both not full time but he played both
and an All pro in four different positions if you
count the return game.
Speaker 10 (19:13):
The NFL is built on complex playbooks and unrelenting intensity,
So how hard would it be to play both ways
in today's game? By marvel at just the capability, the
amount of mental toughness, physical toughness that it takes to
have that type of condition.
Speaker 14 (19:31):
Were talking about seventeen games and the amount of wear
and tear you go through on one side of the
ball over that time, and imagine just doubling that, So
you're really playing the equivalent of what is two seasons
worth of football if you're playing both.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Sides of the balls.
Speaker 15 (19:43):
Again, it's a huge accomplishment. But then to do it
physically in the NFL is another step. If you will,
your body and the challenge of being that good of
an athlete with the athletes at are level, plus the
physical pounding that you take at.
Speaker 16 (19:57):
This level, there's so much detail in the volume of
stuff that these guys have to know at our level
is different than at the college level.
Speaker 12 (20:10):
Trophy winner has done it again.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That kind of opens your mind that you can do this.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Are you willing just to roll the dice and say
this guy's so good, I'm gonna put him.
Speaker 15 (20:20):
Out there on both sides, and we.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Hope you can stay healthy the most time of the
player play college football.
Speaker 17 (20:26):
Has got the big touchdown touchdown Colorado.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
All of this begs to question, if this one of
one talent ended up on your roster, how would you
coach him.
Speaker 12 (20:39):
A lot of people want to make him focus on
one side or the other. I would say, you just
throw him out there and see what he can absorb.
Speaker 11 (20:46):
So much of your preparation throughout the course of the
week to be efficient, there's separation of meetings where there's
offense and defensive meetings going on at the same time.
When you're practicing. You know there's certain parts of emphasis.
Speaker 13 (20:58):
To say he can't. I'm not going to put that
stamp on that. I would probably create a package for
him and been limited to start, just to see how
he handles it.
Speaker 11 (21:08):
I would imagine that projection would be somebody's going to
play him on one side, heavily spot play him on
the other. He'd have to show me that he can't
play both. If he was a RAM.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Talk with the Roundup presented by Roundup for Lawns, don't
tempt Sean mcmay with the good time. If you had
your hands on Travis Hunter, what would you do? The
Colorado playmaker on the field has been electric and now
he tops NFL Networks Daniel Jeremiah's top one hundred and
fifty prospects. This list has athletes upon athletes, crazy guys
that are going to make a difference on whatever team
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and building that they are in next season.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
But Kyle, when you.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Look at DJ's list, the most recent one, what stands
out to you?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I look it right there at number seven, because everybody
looks at number six.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Tyler Warren is awesome.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
We love him.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
He's going to get drafted very high. He was, of
course the John McKie Award winner. Guess who is the
John mcke Award runner up, Colston Lovelin from Michigan who
is sitting.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
There at the seventh overall prospect as.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
A tight end and he doesn't get talked about because
of Tyler Warren.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
This dude is six six.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Two point fifty, runs great routes, can line up a
bunch of different places, and has all of that intangible,
incredible background stuff that you love in a tight end.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Who's going to be a star.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Namely that he grows up on a farm in Idaho
in the town of Bliss, Bliss. His name is Loveland
and he grew up in Bliss. It sounds like it's
all happy. I love this.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Six six two fifteen. And he's not going to get.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Drafted before Tyler Warren, and he shouldn't get drafted. But
he's going to be a potential top ten to fifteen
draft pick ats tight end with very little pub because
there's that shiny object of Tyler Warren, who again he
lost the Imaci Trophy too, But I love the dude.
Massive strong, huge games across the board. Some teams get
very lucky to get him.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I'm going to go to a deep cut. I'm going
to go to a deep cut.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Right here.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
DJ has Jalen Miler we've been talking about for the
last couple of days as a first round pick at
number eighty six on his list at eighty five. He's
got a different quarterback. We haven't talked at all about
Will Howard from Ohio State. Obviously, he's coming off of
a national championship win. He's a big dude. He's one
everywhere he's been talking with coaches. There are concerns about
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some things. Mechanically, he just doesn't generate a whole lot
of velocity.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
For such a big guy.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
The ball will kind of fade out on him, almost
like a golf slice. At times he kind of gets
his front leg locked. But there are tools there that
make him intriguing.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
He's part of a.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
The lack of a better term, third tier of quarterbacks
in this draft that are all people that every college
football fan knows. It's Quinn yours with the two college
football playoffs at Texas, It's Kyle mccorda played at Ohio
State and.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Then led the nation and pass at Syracuse.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
It's Dylan Gabriel from Oregon, Riley Leonard from Notre Dame,
and Will Howard from Ohio State. I believe, based on
my conversations around the league, all those guys will go
somewhere between the third and fifth rounds. There's reasons from
a scout in perspective that they're not going to go
higher than that. Would you got guys who are that
productive and won so many games in college, you can
always think maybe one of these guys will end up
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being the surprise. And obviously DJ's high on Will Howard.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, I'm going at the top of that list.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
I think the most intriguing thing for me is Travis
Hunter now overtaking Abdul Carter for that number one spot.
Daniel Jeremiah has done five lists now, but the first
four when it came to prospect rankings, the one thing
that was consistent was that Abdul.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Carter was number one.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
Now two days before the draft, Travis Hunter overtakes him. Look,
there's a lot of people that do these prospect rankings
and these mock drafts. They do a great job, and
they do their due diligence. But I trust Daniel Jeremiah
more so than probably anyone else when it comes to
these lists. So you may think, Okay, it's a small thing,
Travis Hunter at one, Abdul Carter two.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
They're both going to get drafted very highly. It doesn't
mean a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
To me.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
It carries a little bit more weight. It tells me
two things.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
One, it says, like we just watched in the video,
that these teams and these coaches truly believe that Travis
Hunter can be a legit two way player in the NFL.
Because DJ mentioned that the reason he put Hunter at
one now in Abdul Carter at two was that his
value went up because he.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Can play on both sides of the football.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
We've known that this whole time, but now, all of
a sudden, that means a little bit more. The second
thing is it tells me that it is now a
surefire thing that the Cleveland Browns are going to draft
Travis Hunter with that second overball pick. They view him
as the best available after Tennessee takes cam Ward with
a number one pick. There is something interesting about that,
and I think it's conflicting. Andrew Berry, throughout this entire
process has said I view Travis Hunter as a wide
(25:29):
receiver first and a dB second. He said, quote his
first home will be wide receiver, his second home will
be defensive back.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Travis Hunter came out and said.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
I would rather quit football if a team's not going
to let me plan offense and let me play on defense.
Is this going to push the Browns away from wanting
to draft him.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I don't think so.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
But is it going to create maybe a little bit
of conflict if they do draft Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
He comes into the building and.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
They say, hey, you're going to play wide receiver with
a little bit of dB and he said, no, I
want to play both equally. That's not what Andrew Berry said.
He said he's a wide receiver first in the dB second. Again,
I think they're interchangeable though at the top, I love
Abdul Carter's game, I love Travis Hunter's game. Wherever they
both end up on Thursday, I think they're going to
make a team immediately better and I can't wait to
watch him play on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean, I'm not saying that Daniel Jeremiah has editorial
impact on the graphic that we show for his list,
but bring it up again because at this point, who's
making that decision, As Kyle said yesterday, is that wide
receiver listed first.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Now we are going into the.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Small font on the screen next to the number one.
NFL Media Group puts wide receiver first, cornerback second. So
Travis Hunter, he wants them both in bold and equally
as heavy as we look at DJ's final top ten
prospects lists. Of course, catch DJ's show Wednesday night, the
night before the first round of the Draft, and he
has Shador Sanders at twenty more GMTB.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
When we return, we're gonna do angrun prospects we're gonna
do Anground watch list, and those gentlemen, these amateur athletes
have not earned.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
The screens, they have not earned the scepter, but maybe
someday they will. Damien, Hello, you had me.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I like Damien's I like luciferst.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I came off.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
No, it's still he was, Yes, Curriculus, come on, Damien
on a golden He's my man, Damian Pierce, from.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
The youth to Texas, the Texas.
Speaker 12 (27:10):
You're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Wield it wielded, Damiens, take your feet. This is my man.
There he is. He's massive, he's got the.
Speaker 17 (27:18):
Jordan logo, he's got his cool little play card here,
and he has absolute look of death right there.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
In his eyes. He's gonna jump right here me.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
That's a Florida State seminole just holding on to a gator.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
It's an amazing run. BA. Well, that's a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
The state of Indiana, Indianapoli.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Has a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
His name is Dandy Richardson. Why the cceptor at Richardson?
My man, you got it? You retirement all right.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
That's just a couple of guys who have been scouted
on the Angry Runs watch List and the flames here
and they ended up winning the scepter on the real
deal NFL Sundays.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
All right, guys, here we do there, we go.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I do it every single year, and it is such
a special time of year because these players, these college
kids get to realize their dreams entering the NFL.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
No winning this the.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Angry Run Sceptor, which is given away now for almost
nine years, I think, and I have surveyed the entire land.
I have five guys who I don't think are necessarily
the best running backs. They're the angriest, the five most
likely to win a Scepter in their rookie season.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Are you ready to do this with me?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I'm not screaming in running around. This is a little
bit like Anger Run's unplugged, never mind the soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
You know why, because they haven't done it yet.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
I will not be giving out a sceptor today.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
They have not earned it. These are still amateurs and
I'm rooting for them. But you know, damn well, if
I'm going to do a list of.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
The guys who are gonna get an Angry Run Sceptor
in their rookie year, we are starting with this guy.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
This guy could be all five on the list. My man,
Cam Scataboo.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Not Skeatuo Scataboo. It doesn't make sense, but that's why
I like it. My opinion, that's the best player in
the draft. In the news he was going to the
Titans in a pre draft visit. I think he's going
because they're gonna draft them number.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
One, or they should. This is Skataboo in Arizona.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
State doing all kinds of hilarious things whenever he wanted.
He's a short, stout ball of butcher knives and he
says things like this quote, I'm going to punish the
defender because they don't want to do it for four
quarters and he's right.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
And I love this guy, literally, my favorite player.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
In the draft.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Check out in this play, he's doing this in some
kind of hotpants.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
He has one pant leg down the left side and
then he's wearing Daisy Dukes on the right side. He's
got a full foot.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Above his kneecap with no pads whatsoever. Scataboo, what is that?
What are you? I'll tell you what he is.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
He is a sun devil legends, and I think the
number one most likely.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Guy to get a scepter next year.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I love Cam Skataboo maybe my favorite player ever in any.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Draft in history. I'm not even exaggerating because I would
never do that, but number two the Thoroughbread.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Just because this guy is the top rated running back
on the does not mean I'm gonna excuse him from
my list.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Bring him up Poise State Blue Turf.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Ashton GenZ, guys, he does it all.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
He's got the breakaway, he's got.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
The elusiveness, and you bet your fast, he's got the anger.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Bring it in.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Start the clips of Ashton GenZ. Bam, bam, He's down.
No he's not, and then he breaks away. Candidly, I
don't really care about the breakaway speed. That's not what
this segment is about.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
You can have those in your bucket Brooks and Daniel
Jeremiah segments.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I care about this and this and this.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
That's how you end up in my segment quoting Ashton GenZ.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Once I'm running that football, this special gear kicks in
and it's like.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I'm ten years old again and I'm making the older
kids look silly. I turn into this unstoppable beast. Shout
out to the older kids.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
You tried to tackle ten year old Ashton Gentsy you
probably look like that guy in the goal line. Quoting
Nashon GenZ again, it's tackle football. You know what I'm saying.
I draft the guy they can't tack.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oh, ash and I could kiss you. I love again.
Don't really care about the breakaway speed.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
That's great, not for this segment. Now, you know Ashon GenZ.
You watch itton college football last year.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
You know Cam Skataboo.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I want to give you some more guys that maybe
aren't going to be top ten picks, like gent Is.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Damien. We got a Damien, Bring them up, Bring up up.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
I love a Damien Damien Martinez from Miami. I don't
know what it is about Damien's but there are more
angry runners up per capita named Damien than any other name.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
If you're Damien, you can't be.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Like ah, you know, I work at a pet store
or I'm a substitute teacher.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Name's Damien. No, you do things like this, and my
brother Lucifer and peels above.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
And it's an incredible thing that Damien Martinez doese over
five hundred carries in college still over six yards per carry.
If I had to guess, I would say it's six
points sixty six yards per carry as he is just dragging.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Dude, he is what you.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Call a banger. He is a banger.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
One A scout says that Damien Martinez, check this out.
Old Schoolers reminds him of Natron means Natron means business
from the Old Chargers back in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I'll tell you what reminds me of.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
He reminds me of a taller Jalen Warren, a guy
who is just looking for contact. There could be no
one in front of him, and he will zag just
to find someone to run over.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I love Damien Martinez. He is on the list.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
But if you've watched Anky runs for all these years,
it's not just running backs all right, it's defenders, it's
wide receivers as quarterbacks, and it's tight ends spring them up.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I don't care what lift he's on. I cannot have
this guy not on my list.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Tyler Warren Penn State tight End. It is an automatic
entry to my watch list, not only me because the
style of play, but because the style of mentality.
Speaker 17 (32:54):
Quote I wear forty four because my dad watched John
Riggins play and told me this is how I want
you to run the ball.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
First of all, shout out to mister Warren for not
only being a hands on involved father and your son's career,
but also in teaching him the classics. This is like
never mind the CD, the tape, this is getting out
the vinyl.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
There's Rigo. That's the man he's showing Tyler Warren.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I love the fact that a guy his age is saying, yeah,
John Riggins is my muse. It's like someone picking up
a guitar right now in college and saying I really
love Jimmy Page, Like wow.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
You appreciate Jimmy Page. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
You know what I'll say, I appreciate a comp mister
Warren might have John Riggins.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Here's my comp for Tyler Warren. You know where I'm going.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Bring up Jeremy Shocky and fire in the hole, Shocky, Amenace,
lookout boom.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
This is how I see Tyler Warren. Get to the
second highlight.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
It's one of the angriest runs of all time, and
it has no business being in a game of this
lack of magnitude. Get to a look at a peelback block,
get to Shocky against the Texans.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You know it, I want it, And this is what
I see Tyler Warren doing.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
He gets a pass from the Bachelor and he hands
out roses all the way down the side.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Of look out head. That's a ridiculous run. And why
are we showing it?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
A because it's cratuitous and I love Jeremy Shockey highlights.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
B It's how I see Tyler Warren in the league.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Wait, look at straight ahead on the sideline losing his mind.
Didn't I say it wasn't gonna scream this segment. It's
a ridiculous use of energy for me in the preseason
right now in the off season. But I'm doing it anyway.
And we got one more. We have four, I promise five.
Look at these flames. I'm starting to sweat us almost
like the flames are real, like smell of.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Vision or something.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Bring them up, number five. You might have watched a little.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Something called the National Title Game. Quin Shawn Judkins, Ohio
State running back, very simply stiff arming his way through
the fighting irish so casual.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You sit, Oh, that's beautiful. That is a beautiful technical
shot to the ear hole. This is like a prime bam.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Peel your head back like a pez dispenser and then
run right into the goal line, touchdown, big time runs
and big time games, and now we're gonna do it
against these tough guys from Iowa.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Not so tough to me.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Quinn Shawn Judkins has to be on the list. Finishes runs,
gets fired up on the sideline. He's a national champion.
I love it. Look at the horseshoe in the background.
Touchdown buck guys, get.
Speaker 9 (35:22):
To it, get it.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
That's Quinn Shawn Judkins. Guys.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
That is my list, and I was limited to five.
I could have done one hundred, and we don't have
the time and I don't have the voice for it
right now, but I got it. Omario at Hampton from
UNC I love you, Kyle mnung Gui.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
From Rutgers, I love you. But those are my dudes,
from left to right.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
You got genty, You got my sweet sweet scataboo Quin
Shawn Jenkins, we got Damien, We got Tyler to finish
off the list. Now, these are no guarantees. I don't
know if these guys will win fifty seppers or zero.
But if I was a betting man and I'm not
my bosses, I would say these are the five that
is my watch list for twenty twenty five and I
(36:02):
love it.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Where are we going? We're going to Green Bay, We're
going to LA We're all over the country today. Let's go. Kyle.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
First of all, can you confirm or deny the fact
that you are wearing a seatbelt right now? I'm very
surprised that you actually stay seated in your chair that
entire time.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
I'm actually super glued to my seat. I was allowed
because then I get out of the shot.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I'm not supposed to do that. I'm supposed to be
containing myself.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Shamian.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
These guys, they have not earned it in the league.
I don't just hand these out to high school kids
and college because it's NFL only. So that's where we're at.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You know this is an authentic list because while you
could have flirted with Colston Loveland being on the list
like all Love and No Hate in All Anger, you
went with what you believe with the Tyler Warren Anger
Runs experience.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
And I love it.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Kyle, well done, Thank you.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
I can't believe that that was just preseason Prase. Oh
you got me fired up, man. I was so ready
for it to go all in and I can't wait now.
And I will say this, you and my opinion, have
to be the best TV personality in all of football
when it comes from boom talk shows are doing this stuff. Yeah,
that was so well done. I was so excited, and
then I will this morning I put a big red
circle around the angry run segments. I've seen so much
(37:08):
about it when you guys do it during the season,
I couldn't wait.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
And that absolutely delivered broth Don. Yeah, thanks Cody, Thanks Cody,
I was it.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
The best part about angry runs to me, besides Kyle dropping,
Jesse Palmer and Pez Dispenser references, is that these angry
runs come in all shapes and sizes. You get the big,
bruising tight end like Tyler Warren. You got camp Scataboy,
who somehow was only five nine and two hundred and
fifteen pounds. I think one hundred and fifty those pounds
are in his thighs. But you got Damien down there
(37:36):
at Miami who doesn't look.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Like he should be an angry runner. It looks more
like Le'Veon bellis running over people. I just love it. Everybody.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
You don't have to be the biggest guy to be
the angriest guy, which is something I hear a lot.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Kyle, you know who.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
Cam's scataboo reminds me of a guy named Peyton Hillis.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh no, no, Kyle's angry.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
No trying to trigger me.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
You're trying to trigger me.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
There was like fifty pounds more and seven inches tall
than Cam scattaboo. They have two things in common. They
both play running back and you know the other one.
How dare you, Kessler try to trigger me?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Don't do that.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Now we're doing a meta angry Coast and angry runs.
Let's get out of here, guys. Thank you for the
kind words. Damian Martinez, I love you.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I love all of you. Guys.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Go get it, Go get drafted, and then go and
truck every single person in front of you as syingent
to you included. Stay healthy and stay angry, my friends,
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