January 7, 2025 • 38 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Peter Schrager, Kyle Brandt, and Akbar Gbajabiamila answering several questions - should Aaron Rodgers return for another season? What will happen with the Miami Dolphins and Tyreek Hill? Then Peter and Kyle go “in the booth” and take notice of the best broadcast moments of week-18. Following the conclusion of the NFL regular season, the GMFB crew recaps the most head scratching outcomes of the year.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Good morning football. Hey everybody, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
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I think it was my first one of the new year.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We are live in LA and New York.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's Tuesday, January seventh.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
This is ZC.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Barpos should be a Milla, Peter Schrager, Kyle Brandt. I'm
Jamie art All Peter. How are you feeling on a
daylight today? We've got coaching searches happening, interview requests coming in.
You've got playoffs to prepare for. As a jack of
all trades on the show, My goodness, you just must
be swamped.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And we're searching for the red jackets from the Netflix game. Jamie,
it's a quest that we are looking for. We saw
them on Chrismith. We haven't seen them since. If you
have or you know where any of the Chiefs or
Ravens red Netflix jackets were, we would love to know
the whereabouts and we would like to just have them
and rock them on the shop.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I think they may replace the gold Jackison Canton Eli.
It's Andy put the giant red jackets the new thing.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, there are three hundred Hall of Famers, only four
guys have the red jackets, and that is Henry Lamar
Kelsey and Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
That's the elite level of Hall of Faith.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Next, Fur lined the Netflix custom Christmas coats and just
to confirm for any confusion, those are not cake.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The coats themselves are not cake. Okay, you never know, Jamie,
I may have just made sure.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
All right, we have a lot of topics that we
have to have to rifle through from over the weekend.
So let's first stop in with Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Current Jets quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Aaron Rodgers, who commented on his future after defeating the
Miami Dolphins on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Ian Rappaport said this morning, people close to him, I know,
are preparing for the fact that this could be, in
fact be his last game in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
What is your reaction to that?
Speaker 7 (02:04):
People say they were close to me, Yeah, and I
talked to Yeah, Yeah, I don't. I don't have a
relationship with Ian. I'm not sure who does in my circle,
but there's probably nobody that's talked to me in the
last sure. While no offense to Ian, of course, time now.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
For three and out.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Can we just do a quick aside? How much does
Ian Rapaport love that? I know it's kind of it
is a little like, no offense to Ian. But those
of us who know you and well, like perhaps Sheet
must love that attention from Rogers, right, guys, Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think it was very polite, and I think there
are some other insiders that Rogers is not so polite
about or two.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So that's a big win for you and we love
you good. Yeah, it was the Paul. For me, it
was the pregnant Paul's where you go? People were close
to me? Okay, loaded statement?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
All right, again, no offense to Ian.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Let's inspect that. Though.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
What do we make of Aaron Rodgers future Peter? What
he said, how he's looked, what's going on in the building,
all the above.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Well, Schiff felt like a guy before the final game
when he was on the mic last week that he
was kind of doing his swan song and like this
might be it. But I listened to those comments and
I see how the Jets situation is gonna go down here.
Let's see who their new GM and head coach are
gonna be. Because I speaking a sort like I don't
think the Jets owners have made a decision.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yes or Noah on Rodgers. They're gonna ask in this
interview process, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So, like Rex Ryan's interviewing today with the Jets and
Tom Beech, is Rex Ryan coming in and saying like,
you gotta get rid of Rodgers, We got to start
a new all right, Well, if Frex Ryan's interviewing today,
eventually we're gonna get an Aaron Glenn interview, right, Is
Aaron Glenn gonna come in and be like, actually, like Rogers,
I think Rodgers is a better alternative than getting a
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third round pick and saying let's do that, or Jordan.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Travis or Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I think Aaron Rodgers' future kind of depends on what
the Jets future is. So I'm not no offense to
Aaron as he said no offense to ian I in
short of retirement. I think Rogers is gonna wait and
see also, and I think we're all kind of in
a wait and see mode based on what the Jets
do as far as their next steps are, because a
new coach might come in and be like, absolutely not,
it's my team. I don't want to be succumbed to Rogers. Absolutely,
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I'm not doing that. And then it's probably Sey lev
for Rodgers, and he's got to decide if he wants
to play football again and then find a team that's
a fit, which might be difficult based on what he
brings to a squad and maybe what his number is
gonna be salary wise.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah, And you know, if they're interviewing you know, or
they're interviewing Rex Ryan today, you know Rex Ryan is
already out there saying that he you know, he would
put essentially Aaron Rodgers in checking kind of get.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You know, kind of bring him in. And you know
that's that's fighting words for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
So you know, if that's the situation, is he willing
to kind of go through that and put himself through
that As a guy who's been in the league for
twenty plus years, you know, I don't know what he's
gonna do, to be honest with you, Like, ultimately, this
decision comes down to Aaron Rodgers and what he wants.
What I would personally like, in my opinion, I'd love
to see Aaron Rodgers just fit. I mean, I think
you know, he had a decent statistically decent season, and
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you know, like I want to remember Aaron Rodgers for
the Super Bowls. I want to remember him for the MVP.
I want to remember him as a general, a guy
who could make dynamic and explosive plays. That's how I
want to remember him. I don't want to see this downfall.
And look, here's a guy that comes into a situation
coming out of an injury his first year technically playing.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And all of the great ones do this.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
They're intoxicated by their own greatness and they stay longer
than they should. This is a great opportunity for him
to reflect. Here's a guy that has and he's gone
through this exploration of a deeper aspect of himself. You
saw that kind of detailed enigma. Like I think he's
off to better things, like he's going to be, to me,
a for sure Hall of famer, like go off into
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the sunset or whatever you know you want to go into.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Right, you know, in terms of my own career, I'm
just going to personalize this. Aaron Rodgers is very personal
to me. I feel like he is a band that
like blew up as I started listening to music. It's
my generation, it's my era, Like this is these younger guys, fine,
the older guys. When I was a kid, I just
right when I started working in sports, is when Aaron
Rodgers career started. Here we are twenty years later. I
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loved watching him. I love studying him. I've gotten to
talk to him everything, even through controversial or dark times.
I just always fascinated. I personally am ready to be
done watching Aaron Rodgers play football.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That's just my own take on it.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
And I know he probably has this idea that, you know,
I want to go out like ol Way or like Peyton.
I don't think that's gonna happen. And I know, from
a Bay Area guy who grew up watching old NFL films,
videos and stuff like sometimes they go out like Steve Young,
and sometimes they go out like Joe Montana. You don't
always get carried off. I just feel like Aaron Rodgers,
You're twenty seasons in, you just ended with a win
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at home, You threw your five hundred touchdown pass, you
got one into Devance started every game.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Guy started every single game.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
His body's already been broken, he has all the MVPs,
he's a super Bowl champion. I just to go and oh,
We're gonna have this pipe dream about the Steelers or
the Raiders, and it's this one last thing to chase
something that I don't even know what that thing is.
As a fan of his, I'm ready to be done
seeing it. And I have a comp that I think
is interesting to me. So the Hollywood comp that I
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have for Aaron Rodgers is is Jim Carrey. Okay, So
it's an all time legend who's wildly talented, maybe one
of the most talented people we've ever seen on screen,
Unbelievable memories in twenty years, and not no no on
interesting takes off the field. There's some controversy all that
type of stuff, famous significant others, it's all there. But
more specifically, when I think about Aaron Rodgers jumping on
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one last team to try it again after the jet
thing didn't work out, there is an infamous passage of
Jim Carrey's Wikipedia page that gets mean that the Internet
falls in love with, and I think it kind of
speaks to Rogers.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Right now, I'm going to read it to you verbatim.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
In April twenty twenty two, Jim Carrey announced that he
was considering retirement, saying.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Quote, I have enough. I've done enough. I am enough.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
He said he would return if he were offered a
script that he felt would be quote really important for
people to see. In February twenty twenty four, it was
announced that Kerry would reprise his role as Doctor Robotnik
and Sonic the Hedgehog.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Signed The Hedgehog three. Hey, I'd done enough. I have
enough enough. But if there's a script, or, in Rogers case,
a team that felt really important for people.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
To see, then maybe I thought a Charlie Kaufman script
was coming through the.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Sonic the Hedgehog three.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Sara's saying that Sarrence Malick, Dodge Nolan wants him.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
No, no, I understand that Rogers is saying, like, what
if there's that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Team, Steelers Raiders, those have great history.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Just don't go chasing Sonic the Hedgehog three. You're too big,
you're too good, You've accomplished too much. You have enough,
You've done enough, and you are enough. Go off and
enjoy the next stage of life, whatever that hell that's
gonna be, whatever you want, You've earned it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
As a lifelong fan, I've seen enough.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well done, Kyle very good, all great second down the
postseason marks the first year Dolphins side receiver Tyreek Hill
will not be playing in a playoff game since he
entered the league. That's kind of hard to conceptualize, but
here we are. After a frustrating year in Miami. Hill
commented on his future after Sunday's loss to the Jets.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
I'm out, man, you know, so it was great playing Hill,
but you know, I at the end of the day, bro,
I got to do what's best for you know, for
for my career, and you know what's best because I'm
too much of a competitor to be, you know, just
be just out there at leaving here.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
If he.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, it gets all right?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
What do we make of Tyreek's comments? How do you
translate that? Peter, And did anybody else notice how I
feel like he's like looking down the hallway as he's
talking about this stuff, maybe trying to eye on who's eavesdropping,
or who his teammates or ownership or managements hearing this.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
It was just a strange way.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
To kind of corner him in a hallway and get
this out of him.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I see there's a young woman in a white hat
who does the pr for the Miama Dolphins and Nolan
she's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
She was in New England for it, and and I
feel for her because the season's over and it's been
a brutal season for the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
And here's Tyreek Hill on the last minute of his
media availability, dropping this bomb and then changing his Twitter
avatars ex avatar to a shirtless Antonio Brown with his
face on it photoshopped.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
What are we doing? Tyreek Hill's never?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I mean, talk about a guy who's been blessed to
never have to experience a January without the playoffs. But
you signed it, and you restructured your contract with a
massive extension with huge dollars this season.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's through thick and thin when you sign one of
these deals, is it not?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And if you're the Dolph, like, what we really Tyreek?
We just paid you all this money, You missed games,
you had issues. Did you want to go in.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
At the end?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Did you not want to go at the end? Here's
the joke of it all. He'll be traded to the
Chiefs in the offseason or something like. They'll still They'll
trade him for a second round pick.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Are they run? And you'll see Tyreek being the.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Fastest guy in football with sixteen hundred yards next season.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's how this goes.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
We're in the player empowerment era, and to and Nolan,
the pr chief of the Miami Dolphins, I feel for
you because maybe you thought you had a vacation pact.
Here we go, there's gonna be Dolphins had lines throughout
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, Peter, how crazy would that be if they traded
him before and got all this draft capital and then
turned around and just kind of blew up, you know?
For Tyreek, I look at this and I'm reading his
body language, and I'm looking at a guy who's throwing
a tantrum. He's having a knee jerk reaction to the
fact that they're out of the playoffs. You mentioned it
first time. Not being in the playoffs. He's had probably
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one of his worst, you know, production wise season in
a very long time, under a thousand yards, didn't make
it to the Pro Bowl. So if this is kind
of hitting him all at once, and he's trying to
process that, he's got cameras and he's got microphones in
his face, and that's very hard when you know, like
you're going home, Like he's like, Yo, I've never had
to plan vacation and traveling and all this other stuff.
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At this early part of January, He's used to playing,
and so I think the Dolphins, they probably will try
to work this out, knowing that the two difficult people
to deal with in any locker room actually three quarterbacks,
receivers dbs. Those are the guys who get highly emotional,
and I think he was highly emotional coming out of
that game.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
After the season that the Miami Dolphins put up.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Tyreek Hill is about a decade into his career right now,
he has ten years of having microphones cameras put in
his face. This is a year when he was a
captain of the team. I think this is an embarrassing
moment for him. I think it was in really really,
really bad taste and terrible timing. If this was a
young guy, a young player, young Tyreek Hill, Fine, you
get emotional, you're angry, you're competitive, all that stuff. Guy,
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he's in his thirties, he's been in the league a decade.
He's been doing this a long time. They just finished
a bad game and a bad season in which guys
who have been in the league longer than him and
played harder than him, were much more professional than him.
Look at Khalais Campbell's his career is about twice as
long as Tyree.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
She would never say something like that. I don't need
to have him burned alive. I don't care. I'm not
that angry about it.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
If you're asking me, really bad timing, a really bad decision,
and in the end of it, moving forward, would I
bring him in to be a wide receiver on my team? Absolutely,
without at that, without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
He will go.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Somewhere next year and just maybe one year deal, maybe
a little short term before.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
He gets bad. But would I bring him it? Hell? Yeah,
you understand why he's in The NFL.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Players voted him the number one player in all the
football He was number one, ahead of Lamar Allen Mahomes,
everyone number one. He's an amazing footballer player when his
head is right. That was a really bad moment for him,
But I think there'll be good moments on.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The field still.
Speaker 9 (13:52):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Perhaps that Sonic and Knuckles script Part seven for Rodgers
would include Tyreek Hill and a random team that they
decide to.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Go to together. Can you imagine you're talking?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Can you imagine all right now we're talking to Tom
Pellisero on g BE.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Good morning, Tom.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We are keeping on track on playoff teams, of course,
but also coaches that are available and busy this week.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Mike Rabel is a.
Speaker 9 (14:14):
Hot topic, that's right, Jamie. Mike Rabel interviewed last week
with the Jets. On Wednesday, he is going to interview
with the Chicago Bears for their head coaching opening. The
Saints also have interest in talking to Vrabel, and of
course she got that team he used to play for
in New England that has certainly been keeping its eye
on him as well. Rabel was out last year, or
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at least in a consultant role, worked a lot with
the offensive line in Cleveland, took the Titans to the
playoffs three times in his six seasons there Before there
were a variety of issues, mostly involving dynamics within the
building that led to him being fired a year ago.
So we will see exactly when the Patriots get him
in the building. I would anticipate that would be sometime
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this week for an interview, though that's also a guy
they know extremely well. If they want Mike Rabel, fair
to say, they've got all the information that they would
possibly need. Another name to watch for both these openings
is Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, who I am told
will the interview this week virtually during Detroit's by with
the Patriots and the Bears. Now this is significant because
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Johnson over the past couple of years has been a
hot candidate too. Two years ago, he could add the
Panthers job the side of the night before he wasn't
going to get on the plane. Last year, he was
a top candidate for the Commanders before ultimately deciding it
wasn't the right fit for him. The fact that he
is proceeding with these interviews is an indication of his
interest and intrigue with both of these positions. We also
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had several coordinator changes across the NFL on Monday, including
the Bengals firing lou On Arumo, who had been one
of Zach Taylor's original staff members in Cincinnati. My sense
of this was this was a situation where both sides
probably knew that it was time for a change. I
would anticipate that an Arumo is a hot candidate for
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some of the other defensive coordinator jobs that are open.
This is a really good year if you're trying to
hire a defensive coordinator, because think about the head coaches
that were let go over the past several months. Robert
Slack could land somewhere as a decordinator. Matt Eberflus, Dennis
Allen one other name I would keep an eye on,
particularly in Cincinnati Raiders defensive coordinator Patrick Graham. His contract, actually,
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Jamie expired after the season. That makes him a free
agent and could be a fit for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, Tom, it's me Peter. Jamie went to go do
a quick wardrobe change, but I'll say thank you for
that update. Interesting to note. Interesting to note Ben Johnson
no slip from the Jets. It looks like that interview
might not be happening this week.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
From what I'm gathering, I don't anticipate the Jets being
a strong player, and the Ben Johnson sweepstakes always possible
that he could end up in there later. They got
a long list of people you mentioned, Peter, Rex Ryan
first up for them this morning. That's going to be
a tough act to follow for everybody else, especially if
you're on zoom through the course of these interviews. But
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they've got a lot of former head coaches on that list.
We know the Jets coming off of having a first
time GM and a first time head coach. That experience
may be of high value for one or both those positions.
So Matt Naggy is on their interview list, Brian Flores
is on their interview list. It's gonna be really interesting
to see exactly how the Jets navigate this. But they
got a full dance card with the coaches who are
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still unemployed by teams, whether they're on a buy this
week or their teams are out. Those are virtual only interviews.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
But for the Rex Ryans of the world, hey free
tip around.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
To Florida and we'll see what happens today.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Let's go, Pom.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I want to jump into Yeah, Tom, I have a
question just as a fan, but I'll put it in
a wheelhouse for you.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
The Rex Ryan thing.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
How viable is this? How serious is this? Great memories
of him? Of course, it's been a long time. He's
been a broadcaster for years. He goes back to his
old team. I know we've seen it with Joe Gibbs
and we've seen it with John Gruden. Is this a
serious thing as far as the Jets are concerned?
Speaker 9 (18:03):
I would say this, Kyle, the Jets want to get
a lot of people in front of Woody Johnson. They
want people from different backgrounds, different experience levels, go through
a real process here, because last time around, Woody Johnson
was not a part of that process. And really this
is the first time Woody Johnson has been a part
of the process under the current iteration of the hiring
guidelines and the Rooney Rule. So this is the first
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time you're doing really a broad search in quite some
time in New York, specifically on Rex Ryan. I do
think it is a real candidate with regard to this.
Can Rex Ryan convince Woody Johnson that, hey, let's kick
it back to the good old days fifteen years ago
we were going to AFC championship games with Mark Sanchez.
We were playing great defense, we were reading to preds.
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The real question, the real question for teams to sort
through with Rex Ryan or anybody who's been out for
close to a decade as he has, is is he
up to speed on football. I know that he's on
another network talking about football every day, but there's a
difference between that and actually designing a deep that's designing
a program knowing what the current trends are and schemes
within the league. That's why Mike Tannebaum, who knows Rex
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very well, as well as Rick Spielman, are in these interviews.
My understanding has been they're the ones who are kind
of grilling the candidates on the football items. Woody Johnson
is in all these meetings, heimiel Hall the team presidents
in all these meetings, But it's really Rick and Mike,
two football guys. We're asking the football questions and with
Rex you might get some really interesting answers.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Look, there's a lot of love in that room between Mike,
Woody and Rex. They had a lot of good times.
They sell our fond feelings. We'll see how the interview goes,
but of course he's just one of what you said,
Tom might end up being a dozen head coach interviews
for the New York Jets.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Thank you for the updates. It's a wild time in
the NFL or more. We so appreciate you. Tom. We're
gonna have more GMFB after this.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
There it is New York City, the media capital of
the world, and we show the Big Apple because this
is our segment that we call into the Boot, where
Peter and I celebrate all things NFL media broadcast. You've
already seen all the best plays from last week because
we get into the playoffs. But now, Peter, the best
play calls, the best commentary, you choose.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
We fancy ourselves purveyors of the broadcasting community. We like
to watch all the game broadcasts, and we like to
give you the very best and for the best play
call of Week eighteen, in a week that was filled
with adventure and filled with excitement, we go down to
Dallas where Adam Emin and Greg Olsen were on the
call for a Marcus Mariota game winning touchdown pass that
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Mark Sanchez correct?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Is this? I'm sorry, it's Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Let's get it right, Adam Amin, Mark Sanchez is Week
eighteen for everybody, pe you want to throw to the clip,
Let's go to the clip.
Speaker 10 (20:47):
It's second to goal. Insode shot for the lead. That's record,
he's got. It was Washington's at front. He was silent
for three quarters and scary Terry shows up for the
lead with two seconds left. Whether it's Daniels or Mariota,
the clutch Jen look at that alive in Washington. Terry
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McLaurin has just set the new Washington Commander single season
touchdown record.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
For a receiver.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
All right, a couple of things on this week eighteen.
Even at this four months, I always pay attention to
the play by play guy's voices because it's an incredible
display of endurance to get there to still be at
full voice for that good of a clip. Personal note,
very short experience for me in the broadcast booth. Did
play by play for preseason Bears games. I did the
last game when there used to be a whole bunch
of them. The person who did all the preseason games
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before me was Adam Amen, and when he found out
that I was taking over for the last game, reached
out to me, would you like to use my board
anything you need whatsoever. Didn't know him, had never met him.
Unbelievably generous and professional. You won't find anybody who people
think higher of than Adam.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I mean, he's amazing guy. Great dude.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Does the Bulls broadcast well, big fan of Adam and
Mark Sanchez excellent call in that game as well. And
now the Commanders are red hot and they go into
Tampa this week.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
They certainly do, and we go into We're not supposed
to play favorites. This is probably our favorite category and
it's best enthusiasm for a big man. Chris Fowler, Dannerlatsky
and Lewis Riddick got the treat and the joy of
watching Raven's defensive tackle Michael Pierce making an interception.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
We all got to watch it at home. They got
to actually be on the call, and they nailed it.
Read it, go.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Zappy, Oh big foul Tusa, My goodness, Michael Pier, don't
kneel down.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Big one.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Here's Jolie.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Don't heeled down.
Speaker 10 (22:36):
I was about to go crazy as a C sixty
pie zach.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Ord a defensive coordinator, just running.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Down the sideline. Look at the whole you gonna chat
from big moment. I mean it was nice enough to
pad you do that thing that a house? Hey, I know, Mike,
my god.
Speaker 10 (22:54):
Marcus spears with big man Baald and put it on
the top of the list where he hit the knee quick.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
He said, no, I'm not gonna try I'm not gonna
try run it this day.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's awesome. Well he hit both these too, not just one.
He hit both these better. From Sam Fidam, there's three
sixty five conservative So Peter, this is might take on this.
They nailed this in the sense that for the fans
and them.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
There's this excitement, no little bit of disappointment about why
did we were about to have an all time moment?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
And I think that was perfect.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yet We've had a million moments where the big man
goes ten steps and then gets tackled.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, this one. The fact that he just succumbs to
it and goes it's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And I love that they shout out Marcus Spear, they
got the inside the family, and Hey, who's the biggest
player ever, Kyle the biggest player ever to score a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
The biggest big man touchdowns? You know who it is?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I would say it's either Keith Trailer or Ted Washington, Okay,
or is it Sam Adams?
Speaker 7 (23:52):
All Right?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
The heaviest player on record to ever have an interception,
not a big man touch on interception is Ted Washington
three hundred and seventy five.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I've got to pick in nineteen.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Ninety one, and then also had another one for the
Broncos in ninety four.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Wow did it twice? Ted Washington? That's incredible.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
And I think Peter brings up a good point or
Lavsky he throws back to his studio show, always do
that if your bread is buttered typically in these shows,
and then you get to go in the booth. Always
throw it back. Jason mccordy's done it, Ard All does it?
Or adult and bur Liston's done it. I respect that,
Orlovsky and I'm sure that Swagu respected it too.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yes, Hello, you know what's next? Peter off another ESPN moment,
off Scar of the Rails moment. Troickman and Joe Buck
were having fun on a Saturday night and when the
heaters were hot, Troickman was hotter.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Take a watch four feet that's what they're calling for
from the heater. You go tell Cam Hayward he needs
a backup. Yeah, let me tell you.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Those things kick out some heat too, So you're not careful,
your pants will catch on fire.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Pants on the ground, Pants on the ground, plants on
the ground. What's the reference?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
All right, we're looking at Larry Platte, who is a
former I mean, this is fifteen years ago American Idol
contestant who sang about seeing people out and about young
people whose pants would be on the ground, and the
song went pants on the ground, pants on the ground,
Looking like a fool with your pants on the ground. Now, Peter,
I'll tie it back in and I guarantee this is
why Joe Bucker remembers it. The Brett Favre Minnesota Vikings
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were a thing at this time, and after they would
win the game, they would go in the locker room
like the locker room speech, and Farv.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Would scream pants on the ground.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Because Percy Harvin went to and said, Brett brettep we win,
you got.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
To do the pants on the ground thing, and he
screamed it.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
And this is because of Larry Platt or reject didn't
win or anything, but he became one of these like
William Hung viral people before virals even a term for
pants on the ground.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I brought him back in the finaleos We're looking like
a fool with your pants on the ground.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
An incredible, incredible pull. And I'll say this again. I
say this.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
It's week eighteen. I don't know if Buck is going
with pants on the ground in week three the playoffs ten,
certainly not the playoffs, but empty it now it's like
what else am I going to talk about? We're doing
Larry Platt pants on the ground. Joe Troy, excellent job.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Shout out to Larry Platt.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Now for our best interview moment. This is one of
the coolest things we saw in Week eighteen. Pam Ahler
Oliver is in her thirtieth season as a sideline reporter
for Fox. She has interviewed everybody from Troy Aikman to
Joe Montana to today's stars and beyond. In her thirtieth season,
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she got to interview a quarterback who won a game
it might be his last regular season game of all time.
And this was really neat for all of the broadcast
enthusiasts out there.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Cool moment in football history.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Take a listen to Pam Oliver and Aaron Rodgers, two
legends of the game, conduct a postgame interview in a
meaningless Dolphins Jets performance.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
So what will you do in the coming days and
coming months before you decide what it is you want
to do for your next path.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
I'm gonna get home and relax.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
I'm gonna clear out my head and get healthy from.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
The bumps and bruises from the season.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
And I got a lot of gratitude right now. I'm
gonna join us tonight, But once I get back out West,
I'm gonna, you know, take my time, and I'm not
gonna hold anybody up. You know, I'm gonna have conversations
tomorrow with the everybody here with the Jets and see
what they're thinking and then make a decision before it
gets too Lady.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Offseason, whatever you do, all the best. I love you, Pam,
have you been?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Thank you the best?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Take care? Is that not amazing? It's really cool.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I get emotional because we watched football growing up and
it was Pam Oliver or anything everyone, and then we
watched Aaron Rodgers' career and it's like the mutual respect.
That's the stuff you don't see on Instagram. That's the
stuff you don't see on There's real respect for Pam
Oliver from Aaron Rodgers there and Kyle. It's not the
first time they've exchanged warm, you know, embraces in the
moment like that.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Now just a few years ago, this is long haired
Rogers with the Packers twenty twenty one. They just won
a game, they're starting to heat up, and there is
similar sentiments between he and Pam Oliver.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Rule it.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
As you get ready to go to care to play
the Cardinals, the red hot team, what are some of
your early thoughts on that game?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
It's gonna be a great Thursday night.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
They're a great football team.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
We're on a roll.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
We won six in a row.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Be good to see how we stack up against the
NFC's best.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Alrighty, go get them? Thank you love you too. Pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I mean, it's an you think about Rogers in his
career and all the postgame interviews that he's done. Obviously
he's done amazing features with Aaron Andrews, and we've seen.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It countless times before.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
But I don't know, just I'm getting emotional and sentimental
because we love football and.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We love that.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I think it's cool that Rogers' career seems like it's
going on for a century and it's not even close
to as long as Pam Oliver. Now, like Pam Oliver's
doing this for a decade before Rogers got even drafted
out of cow But I imagine how I mean, how
many times has he been on Fox? How many times
has he done a post game with Pam Oliver? One
hundred and two one? I have no idea, but it
is cool as if we we love the game, but
we also love the media part of the game, and
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to see them two together. We're not gonna sit here crying.
But it's a really cool thing and we really respect it,
so respect.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
The two legends.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
And with that we had to the playoffs where the
best of the best will be on these calls.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Who will be the winners of next week's awards. You
have to stay tuned and let us know. Tweet us
if you see a great clip.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Remember pants on the ground, pants on the ground, looking
like a fool with the pants on the ground, pants
on there. That's great journalism right there too, Great journal
Larry Platt, Larry Platt.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I don't want to google Larry. I'm worried.
Speaker 10 (29:25):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, we just finished two hundred and seventy two regular
season games and we head to the playoffs, and in
a silo, you can imagine moments of the season, the
Hail Mary between the Commanders and the Bears. You can
remnder Thanksgiving Day and some of the great conquests that
we had there with the Lions holding off against the
Bears at the end of that. There's a million games
that we can discuss. Yet five still don't make sense
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to me. Five still do not make sense.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Here here are the.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Five head scratching outcomes from the twenty to twenty four
regular season that you might have forgotten.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Who would have totally changed a playoff picture. They gone differently.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Number five, guys, The second worst team in the NFL
was the Cleveland Browns this season. They beat the Baltimore Ravens.
Week eight, the Ravens fell to the Browns in a
game that still makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
It was a game that Derrick Henry did score.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Early in this one, but the Jameis Winston led Browns
just threw all over the Baltimore Ravens. Guys, that's the
Tillman for a thirty eight yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
At the end of the game. The Ravens had a chance.
Lamar says, go deep people, he pumps, he threw it.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
He had a chance and Zick Flowers fell down and
the Browns beat the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Think about the Browns have the number two pick in
the draft. They beat it. That happened.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That might be the difference between the Browns having a
lower pick or who knows, the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Maybe haven't in a different way that they have the
playoffs and maybe the two seed. Number four on my list.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Week four, the La Rams at the time, who were
a one to two team, went to Chicago and lost
to the Bear.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
The Rams lost to the Bears this season. It happened, guys.
This is week four. We go back and what the
Dj Moore touchdown in the back here. You know, I
feel like I forgot about that. This happened.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
DeAndre Swift went and scampered for forty five yards as
the Shane Waldron led Bears offense just absolutely dominated. The
Rams did not have any red zone success. And then
this was the big play here minute three left to go.
Javon Britsker intercepts Matt Stafford. The Bears were four and two.
The Bears they were four and two team.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
They beat the Rams.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
They beat the division champion Rams. We didn't have to
play in week eighteam because they.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Know this happened. Yes, this is why the NFL is
such an amazing league. That happened. And guys, we talked
about the Ravens in week three, here we go, come
we go. Here, we got it. They beat the bill right,
they had this great air They beat the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
In week two, the Ravens lost at home to the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
What this was.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
That's a road game that happened on our shore.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Week there was a Sunday one o'clock start, and the
Raiders came in there and Gardner Minshew and the Raiders
walked right into the M and T bank and threw
the Duvante Adams form big plays and brock Bauers had
a big day. The Raiders beat the Ravens in twenty
twenty four. This happened the last play of the game.
This comes after you know, lamar out here, here's the lateral.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
To Justice Hill and he runs around and Justice Hill through.
Oh my gosh, Devanta Adams exhausted after the game. They
beat the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
A couple of weeks later, Devanta Adams would walk into
Tom Telesco's almost to be like I have to be traded,
and he got his wish and went to the Jets.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That happened too. Number three on our list and number
two on our list. I'm sorry. Maybe the most bizarre outcomeing.
If it goes differently, the Seahawks might be in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
In Week five, the New York Giants went up to
the Pacific Northwest and the New Yorkiants beat the Seahawks
in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
The New York Giants, who who had.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
One win at home ball season also had a win
at Loomen Field.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's head scratching, but it happened.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
And had this game gone differently, the Seahawks a team
who had a four game winning streak late in the season,
Maybe the Seahawks are not only in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Maybe the Seahawks are the division champions.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
And last week they would have been playing for a
lot more than just draft stock and where their draft
position would be.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Giants came in there. They got to go ahead field
goal late.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
They returned this putt block for a touchdown the Giants
or a field goat block for the Giants.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Simmons bought the field bawl. Yeah, that was it. They
had siventh They returned it for a touch was a
great moment. They were alive the Giants. They had beaten
the Browns, they had beaten the Seahawks on the road.
The Giants were alive.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
The Giants beat the Seahawks in a game this season.
But the biggest head scratching law of the entire twenty
twenty fourth season came on Week one, where the Joe
Burrow Jamar Chase Bengals lost at home to the JIROD.
Mayo coached Jacobi Burssett led Patriots. The Bengals opened the
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season up with a loss to New England. That still
is a head scratching.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Outcome even today. Had the Bengals won this game, they're
probably playing in January.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Had the Bengals won this game, they probably would have
had a completely different trajectory on the season. The Patriots
flip until last week, were basically the number one peck
in the worst team in football.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Beat the Bengals on the road in their building, and.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Then everybody's survivor pool, and then everybody it's over.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And this was after a lot of head scratching about
the move to go to Mayo over offseason.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
And it was like, no, look, draw Mayo that running
hills this summer. Gerrod Mayo had not. Gerrod Mayo is
no longer a coach in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
He's going to be a coordinator, maybe at linebackers coach
somewhere else. And the Bengals are at home that's still
eighteen weeks later, is the most head scratching outcome of
any regular season game this season.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
The Bengals at home lost to the Patriots. There's my
list confusing games.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Looking back on it now, it all happened before the
halfway mark, but Kyle, I turned to you.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Does any does any game I didn't mention stand out?
Or does that all right?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
So the Bengals listen to the Patriots and Jacoby Brissett.
Jacoby Brissett is now starring in commercials that are based
cheer line the fact that he's a backup quarterback. He's
an insurance. But he was starting that game, the last
one and then I'll throw to la. I remember in
the Ravens loss to the Raiders, there's this great micd
up clip of Max Crosby on the Raiders' sideline going
to Gardner Minshew and be like, hey, I want to
see that Washington State gardener Mitsche. I want to see him,
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and he's like, I got you, man, And then he
went out and beat Lamar Jackson. It was a stunning loss.
I still can't believe that happened. I forgot that Davante
was on the Raiders this year.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Year. That thing is way in the past. What do
you guys in l I feel like, you.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Know, I'm looking at that number one, you know, the
season opener the Bengals and the Patriots. I don't think
any of us had a lot of high hopes for
the Patriots, and I thought that would set the temple.
You know, fast forward eighteen weeks later, girod Mal no
longer the coach. You know, you would have thought that
he would have been given another opportunity, especially when you
think about the history you know of the Patriots with
you know, Bill Parcells and Belichick, those guys they started
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off with five wins in their career and they were
given another opportunity. So anyways, you know, you think the Bengals,
they're pretty good team, and that was a strong win
opening win, but it wasn't enough for girod Mail. But yeah,
that was shocking when you think about it.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I look at some of those bad teams in the
NFL and I and I envisioned them like Quicksand in
the movie where somebody steps in and you're like.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, you start to sink.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Like the Giants jumped up and they grabbed the Seahawks'
leg and they pulled them into the quicksand and they
could could knock it out of the clutches. The Rams
were luckier than that. They lost to the Bears in
Week four, but they were still able to emerge victors
in the postseason. The fact that the Ravens are on
there twice for two really brutal losses and we're talking
about them hopefully winning in January is pretty remarkable. Peter,
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great list as always.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, I mean, if the Ravens being on there twice, Peter,
does it ding away any.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Of the confidence life anything. They turned it around.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
They won four straight games to end the seasons, including
three in eleven days, So.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I think that it was good to have those then
got it out of the system. Let's embrace the weird.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
While we're talking, I pulled up the game recap of
Giants twenty nine Seahawks twenty Daniel Jones, currently a Viking, said,
you know, we've seen since training camp and much we
like our skill guys, and we think we can really
go a long way and make some.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Plays like he was just feeling it.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Like Daniel Jones, they had forded something yards of offense.
There was a great day to be a twenty twenty
four New York Giant.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Tennessee Titans beat the Texans this year.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
The New York Jets beat the Texans this year. There
were a lot of possible games on this list.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Those were our craziest outcomes fun excluding Week eighteen, which
had some backups involved in Yah We'll do it again.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I like this was that Giants game That wasn't the
bad Uniform game, was it?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That was the opening.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, that was the first, the first of seven weeks.
The Giants still celebrated their one hundred years.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Of being the Giants.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Ye authorized h
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daylight today? We've got coaching searches happening, interview requests coming in.
You've got playoffs to prepare for. As a jack of
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be swamped.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And we're searching for the red jackets from the Netflix game. Jamie,
it's a quest that we are looking for. We saw
them on Chrismith. We haven't seen them since. If you
have or you know where any of the Chiefs or
Ravens red Netflix jackets were, we would love to know
the whereabouts and we would like to just have them
and rock them on the shop.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I think they may replace the gold Jackison Canton Eli.
It's Andy put the giant red jackets the new thing.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, there are three hundred Hall of Famers, only four
guys have the red jackets, and that is Henry Lamar
Kelsey and Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
That's the elite level of Hall of Faith.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Next, Fur lined the Netflix custom Christmas coats and just
to confirm for any confusion, those are not cake.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The coats themselves are not cake. Okay, you never know, Jamie,
I may have just made sure.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
All right, we have a lot of topics that we
have to have to rifle through from over the weekend.
So let's first stop in with Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Current Jets quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Aaron Rodgers, who commented on his future after defeating the
Miami Dolphins on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Ian Rappaport said this morning, people close to him, I know,
are preparing for the fact that this could be, in
fact be his last game in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
What is your reaction to that?
Speaker 7 (02:04):
People say they were close to me, Yeah, and I
talked to Yeah, Yeah, I don't. I don't have a
relationship with Ian. I'm not sure who does in my circle,
but there's probably nobody that's talked to me in the
last sure. While no offense to Ian, of course, time now.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
For three and out.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Can we just do a quick aside? How much does
Ian Rapaport love that? I know it's kind of it
is a little like, no offense to Ian. But those
of us who know you and well, like perhaps Sheet
must love that attention from Rogers, right, guys, Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think it was very polite, and I think there
are some other insiders that Rogers is not so polite
about or two.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So that's a big win for you and we love
you good. Yeah, it was the Paul. For me, it
was the pregnant Paul's where you go? People were close
to me? Okay, loaded statement?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
All right, again, no offense to Ian.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Let's inspect that. Though.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
What do we make of Aaron Rodgers future Peter? What
he said, how he's looked, what's going on in the building,
all the above.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Well, Schiff felt like a guy before the final game
when he was on the mic last week that he
was kind of doing his swan song and like this
might be it. But I listened to those comments and
I see how the Jets situation is gonna go down here.
Let's see who their new GM and head coach are
gonna be. Because I speaking a sort like I don't
think the Jets owners have made a decision.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yes or Noah on Rodgers. They're gonna ask in this
interview process, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So, like Rex Ryan's interviewing today with the Jets and
Tom Beech, is Rex Ryan coming in and saying like,
you gotta get rid of Rodgers, We got to start
a new all right, Well, if Frex Ryan's interviewing today,
eventually we're gonna get an Aaron Glenn interview, right, Is
Aaron Glenn gonna come in and be like, actually, like Rogers,
I think Rodgers is a better alternative than getting a
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third round pick and saying let's do that, or Jordan.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Travis or Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I think Aaron Rodgers' future kind of depends on what
the Jets future is. So I'm not no offense to
Aaron as he said no offense to ian I in
short of retirement. I think Rogers is gonna wait and
see also, and I think we're all kind of in
a wait and see mode based on what the Jets
do as far as their next steps are, because a
new coach might come in and be like, absolutely not,
it's my team. I don't want to be succumbed to Rogers. Absolutely,
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I'm not doing that. And then it's probably Sey lev
for Rodgers, and he's got to decide if he wants
to play football again and then find a team that's
a fit, which might be difficult based on what he
brings to a squad and maybe what his number is
gonna be salary wise.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah, And you know, if they're interviewing you know, or
they're interviewing Rex Ryan today, you know Rex Ryan is
already out there saying that he you know, he would
put essentially Aaron Rodgers in checking kind of get.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You know, kind of bring him in. And you know
that's that's fighting words for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
So you know, if that's the situation, is he willing
to kind of go through that and put himself through
that As a guy who's been in the league for
twenty plus years, you know, I don't know what he's
gonna do, to be honest with you, Like, ultimately, this
decision comes down to Aaron Rodgers and what he wants.
What I would personally like, in my opinion, I'd love
to see Aaron Rodgers just fit. I mean, I think
you know, he had a decent statistically decent season, and
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you know, like I want to remember Aaron Rodgers for
the Super Bowls. I want to remember him for the MVP.
I want to remember him as a general, a guy
who could make dynamic and explosive plays. That's how I
want to remember him. I don't want to see this downfall.
And look, here's a guy that comes into a situation
coming out of an injury his first year technically playing.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And all of the great ones do this.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
They're intoxicated by their own greatness and they stay longer
than they should. This is a great opportunity for him
to reflect. Here's a guy that has and he's gone
through this exploration of a deeper aspect of himself. You
saw that kind of detailed enigma. Like I think he's
off to better things, like he's going to be, to me,
a for sure Hall of famer, like go off into
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the sunset or whatever you know you want to go into.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Right, you know, in terms of my own career, I'm
just going to personalize this. Aaron Rodgers is very personal
to me. I feel like he is a band that
like blew up as I started listening to music. It's
my generation, it's my era, Like this is these younger guys, fine,
the older guys. When I was a kid, I just
right when I started working in sports, is when Aaron
Rodgers career started. Here we are twenty years later. I
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loved watching him. I love studying him. I've gotten to
talk to him everything, even through controversial or dark times.
I just always fascinated. I personally am ready to be
done watching Aaron Rodgers play football.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That's just my own take on it.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
And I know he probably has this idea that, you know,
I want to go out like ol Way or like Peyton.
I don't think that's gonna happen. And I know, from
a Bay Area guy who grew up watching old NFL films,
videos and stuff like sometimes they go out like Steve Young,
and sometimes they go out like Joe Montana. You don't
always get carried off. I just feel like Aaron Rodgers,
You're twenty seasons in, you just ended with a win
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at home, You threw your five hundred touchdown pass, you
got one into Devance started every game.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Guy started every single game.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
His body's already been broken, he has all the MVPs,
he's a super Bowl champion. I just to go and oh,
We're gonna have this pipe dream about the Steelers or
the Raiders, and it's this one last thing to chase
something that I don't even know what that thing is.
As a fan of his, I'm ready to be done
seeing it. And I have a comp that I think
is interesting to me. So the Hollywood comp that I
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have for Aaron Rodgers is is Jim Carrey. Okay, So
it's an all time legend who's wildly talented, maybe one
of the most talented people we've ever seen on screen,
Unbelievable memories in twenty years, and not no no on
interesting takes off the field. There's some controversy all that
type of stuff, famous significant others, it's all there. But
more specifically, when I think about Aaron Rodgers jumping on
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one last team to try it again after the jet
thing didn't work out, there is an infamous passage of
Jim Carrey's Wikipedia page that gets mean that the Internet
falls in love with, and I think it kind of
speaks to Rogers.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Right now, I'm going to read it to you verbatim.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
In April twenty twenty two, Jim Carrey announced that he
was considering retirement, saying.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Quote, I have enough. I've done enough. I am enough.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
He said he would return if he were offered a
script that he felt would be quote really important for
people to see. In February twenty twenty four, it was
announced that Kerry would reprise his role as Doctor Robotnik
and Sonic the Hedgehog.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Signed The Hedgehog three. Hey, I'd done enough. I have
enough enough. But if there's a script, or, in Rogers case,
a team that felt really important for people.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
To see, then maybe I thought a Charlie Kaufman script
was coming through the.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Sonic the Hedgehog three.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Sara's saying that Sarrence Malick, Dodge Nolan wants him.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
No, no, I understand that Rogers is saying, like, what
if there's that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Team, Steelers Raiders, those have great history.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Just don't go chasing Sonic the Hedgehog three. You're too big,
you're too good, You've accomplished too much. You have enough,
You've done enough, and you are enough. Go off and
enjoy the next stage of life, whatever that hell that's
gonna be, whatever you want, You've earned it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
As a lifelong fan, I've seen enough.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well done, Kyle very good, all great second down the
postseason marks the first year Dolphins side receiver Tyreek Hill
will not be playing in a playoff game since he
entered the league. That's kind of hard to conceptualize, but
here we are. After a frustrating year in Miami. Hill
commented on his future after Sunday's loss to the Jets.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
I'm out, man, you know, so it was great playing Hill,
but you know, I at the end of the day, bro,
I got to do what's best for you know, for
for my career, and you know what's best because I'm
too much of a competitor to be, you know, just
be just out there at leaving here.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
If he.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, it gets all right?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
What do we make of Tyreek's comments? How do you
translate that? Peter, And did anybody else notice how I
feel like he's like looking down the hallway as he's
talking about this stuff, maybe trying to eye on who's eavesdropping,
or who his teammates or ownership or managements hearing this.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
It was just a strange way.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
To kind of corner him in a hallway and get
this out of him.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I see there's a young woman in a white hat
who does the pr for the Miama Dolphins and Nolan
she's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
She was in New England for it, and and I
feel for her because the season's over and it's been
a brutal season for the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
And here's Tyreek Hill on the last minute of his
media availability, dropping this bomb and then changing his Twitter
avatars ex avatar to a shirtless Antonio Brown with his
face on it photoshopped.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
What are we doing? Tyreek Hill's never?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I mean, talk about a guy who's been blessed to
never have to experience a January without the playoffs. But
you signed it, and you restructured your contract with a
massive extension with huge dollars this season.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's through thick and thin when you sign one of
these deals, is it not?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And if you're the Dolph, like, what we really Tyreek?
We just paid you all this money, You missed games,
you had issues. Did you want to go in.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
At the end?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Did you not want to go at the end? Here's
the joke of it all. He'll be traded to the
Chiefs in the offseason or something like. They'll still They'll
trade him for a second round pick.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Are they run? And you'll see Tyreek being the.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Fastest guy in football with sixteen hundred yards next season.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's how this goes.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
We're in the player empowerment era, and to and Nolan,
the pr chief of the Miami Dolphins, I feel for
you because maybe you thought you had a vacation pact.
Here we go, there's gonna be Dolphins had lines throughout
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, Peter, how crazy would that be if they traded
him before and got all this draft capital and then
turned around and just kind of blew up, you know?
For Tyreek, I look at this and I'm reading his
body language, and I'm looking at a guy who's throwing
a tantrum. He's having a knee jerk reaction to the
fact that they're out of the playoffs. You mentioned it
first time. Not being in the playoffs. He's had probably
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one of his worst, you know, production wise season in
a very long time, under a thousand yards, didn't make
it to the Pro Bowl. So if this is kind
of hitting him all at once, and he's trying to
process that, he's got cameras and he's got microphones in
his face, and that's very hard when you know, like
you're going home, Like he's like, Yo, I've never had
to plan vacation and traveling and all this other stuff.
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At this early part of January, He's used to playing,
and so I think the Dolphins, they probably will try
to work this out, knowing that the two difficult people
to deal with in any locker room actually three quarterbacks,
receivers dbs. Those are the guys who get highly emotional,
and I think he was highly emotional coming out of
that game.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
After the season that the Miami Dolphins put up.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Tyreek Hill is about a decade into his career right now,
he has ten years of having microphones cameras put in
his face. This is a year when he was a
captain of the team. I think this is an embarrassing
moment for him. I think it was in really really,
really bad taste and terrible timing. If this was a
young guy, a young player, young Tyreek Hill, Fine, you
get emotional, you're angry, you're competitive, all that stuff. Guy,
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he's in his thirties, he's been in the league a decade.
He's been doing this a long time. They just finished
a bad game and a bad season in which guys
who have been in the league longer than him and
played harder than him, were much more professional than him.
Look at Khalais Campbell's his career is about twice as
long as Tyree.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
She would never say something like that. I don't need
to have him burned alive. I don't care. I'm not
that angry about it.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
If you're asking me, really bad timing, a really bad decision,
and in the end of it, moving forward, would I
bring him in to be a wide receiver on my team? Absolutely,
without at that, without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
He will go.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Somewhere next year and just maybe one year deal, maybe
a little short term before.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
He gets bad. But would I bring him it? Hell? Yeah,
you understand why he's in The NFL.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Players voted him the number one player in all the
football He was number one, ahead of Lamar Allen Mahomes,
everyone number one. He's an amazing footballer player when his
head is right. That was a really bad moment for him,
But I think there'll be good moments on.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The field still.
Speaker 9 (13:52):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Perhaps that Sonic and Knuckles script Part seven for Rodgers
would include Tyreek Hill and a random team that they
decide to.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Go to together. Can you imagine you're talking?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Can you imagine all right now we're talking to Tom
Pellisero on g BE.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Good morning, Tom.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We are keeping on track on playoff teams, of course,
but also coaches that are available and busy this week.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Mike Rabel is a.
Speaker 9 (14:14):
Hot topic, that's right, Jamie. Mike Rabel interviewed last week
with the Jets. On Wednesday, he is going to interview
with the Chicago Bears for their head coaching opening. The
Saints also have interest in talking to Vrabel, and of
course she got that team he used to play for
in New England that has certainly been keeping its eye
on him as well. Rabel was out last year, or
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at least in a consultant role, worked a lot with
the offensive line in Cleveland, took the Titans to the
playoffs three times in his six seasons there Before there
were a variety of issues, mostly involving dynamics within the
building that led to him being fired a year ago.
So we will see exactly when the Patriots get him
in the building. I would anticipate that would be sometime
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this week for an interview, though that's also a guy
they know extremely well. If they want Mike Rabel, fair
to say, they've got all the information that they would
possibly need. Another name to watch for both these openings
is Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, who I am told
will the interview this week virtually during Detroit's by with
the Patriots and the Bears. Now this is significant because
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Johnson over the past couple of years has been a
hot candidate too. Two years ago, he could add the
Panthers job the side of the night before he wasn't
going to get on the plane. Last year, he was
a top candidate for the Commanders before ultimately deciding it
wasn't the right fit for him. The fact that he
is proceeding with these interviews is an indication of his
interest and intrigue with both of these positions. We also
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had several coordinator changes across the NFL on Monday, including
the Bengals firing lou On Arumo, who had been one
of Zach Taylor's original staff members in Cincinnati. My sense
of this was this was a situation where both sides
probably knew that it was time for a change. I
would anticipate that an Arumo is a hot candidate for
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some of the other defensive coordinator jobs that are open.
This is a really good year if you're trying to
hire a defensive coordinator, because think about the head coaches
that were let go over the past several months. Robert
Slack could land somewhere as a decordinator. Matt Eberflus, Dennis
Allen one other name I would keep an eye on,
particularly in Cincinnati Raiders defensive coordinator Patrick Graham. His contract, actually,
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Jamie expired after the season. That makes him a free
agent and could be a fit for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, Tom, it's me Peter. Jamie went to go do
a quick wardrobe change, but I'll say thank you for
that update. Interesting to note. Interesting to note Ben Johnson
no slip from the Jets. It looks like that interview
might not be happening this week.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
From what I'm gathering, I don't anticipate the Jets being
a strong player, and the Ben Johnson sweepstakes always possible
that he could end up in there later. They got
a long list of people you mentioned, Peter, Rex Ryan
first up for them this morning. That's going to be
a tough act to follow for everybody else, especially if
you're on zoom through the course of these interviews. But
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they've got a lot of former head coaches on that list.
We know the Jets coming off of having a first
time GM and a first time head coach. That experience
may be of high value for one or both those positions.
So Matt Naggy is on their interview list, Brian Flores
is on their interview list. It's gonna be really interesting
to see exactly how the Jets navigate this. But they
got a full dance card with the coaches who are
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still unemployed by teams, whether they're on a buy this
week or their teams are out. Those are virtual only interviews.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
But for the Rex Ryans of the world, hey free
tip around.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
To Florida and we'll see what happens today.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Let's go, Pom.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I want to jump into Yeah, Tom, I have a
question just as a fan, but I'll put it in
a wheelhouse for you.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
The Rex Ryan thing.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
How viable is this? How serious is this? Great memories
of him? Of course, it's been a long time. He's
been a broadcaster for years. He goes back to his
old team. I know we've seen it with Joe Gibbs
and we've seen it with John Gruden. Is this a
serious thing as far as the Jets are concerned?
Speaker 9 (18:03):
I would say this, Kyle, the Jets want to get
a lot of people in front of Woody Johnson. They
want people from different backgrounds, different experience levels, go through
a real process here, because last time around, Woody Johnson
was not a part of that process. And really this
is the first time Woody Johnson has been a part
of the process under the current iteration of the hiring
guidelines and the Rooney Rule. So this is the first
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time you're doing really a broad search in quite some
time in New York, specifically on Rex Ryan. I do
think it is a real candidate with regard to this.
Can Rex Ryan convince Woody Johnson that, hey, let's kick
it back to the good old days fifteen years ago
we were going to AFC championship games with Mark Sanchez.
We were playing great defense, we were reading to preds.
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The real question, the real question for teams to sort
through with Rex Ryan or anybody who's been out for
close to a decade as he has, is is he
up to speed on football. I know that he's on
another network talking about football every day, but there's a
difference between that and actually designing a deep that's designing
a program knowing what the current trends are and schemes
within the league. That's why Mike Tannebaum, who knows Rex
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very well, as well as Rick Spielman, are in these interviews.
My understanding has been they're the ones who are kind
of grilling the candidates on the football items. Woody Johnson
is in all these meetings, heimiel Hall the team presidents
in all these meetings, But it's really Rick and Mike,
two football guys. We're asking the football questions and with
Rex you might get some really interesting answers.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Look, there's a lot of love in that room between Mike,
Woody and Rex. They had a lot of good times.
They sell our fond feelings. We'll see how the interview goes,
but of course he's just one of what you said,
Tom might end up being a dozen head coach interviews
for the New York Jets.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Thank you for the updates. It's a wild time in
the NFL or more. We so appreciate you. Tom. We're
gonna have more GMFB after this.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
There it is New York City, the media capital of
the world, and we show the Big Apple because this
is our segment that we call into the Boot, where
Peter and I celebrate all things NFL media broadcast. You've
already seen all the best plays from last week because
we get into the playoffs. But now, Peter, the best
play calls, the best commentary, you choose.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
We fancy ourselves purveyors of the broadcasting community. We like
to watch all the game broadcasts, and we like to
give you the very best and for the best play
call of Week eighteen, in a week that was filled
with adventure and filled with excitement, we go down to
Dallas where Adam Emin and Greg Olsen were on the
call for a Marcus Mariota game winning touchdown pass that
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Mark Sanchez correct?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Is this? I'm sorry, it's Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Let's get it right, Adam Amin, Mark Sanchez is Week
eighteen for everybody, pe you want to throw to the clip,
Let's go to the clip.
Speaker 10 (20:47):
It's second to goal. Insode shot for the lead. That's record,
he's got. It was Washington's at front. He was silent
for three quarters and scary Terry shows up for the
lead with two seconds left. Whether it's Daniels or Mariota,
the clutch Jen look at that alive in Washington. Terry
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McLaurin has just set the new Washington Commander single season
touchdown record.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
For a receiver.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
All right, a couple of things on this week eighteen.
Even at this four months, I always pay attention to
the play by play guy's voices because it's an incredible
display of endurance to get there to still be at
full voice for that good of a clip. Personal note,
very short experience for me in the broadcast booth. Did
play by play for preseason Bears games. I did the
last game when there used to be a whole bunch
of them. The person who did all the preseason games
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before me was Adam Amen, and when he found out
that I was taking over for the last game, reached
out to me, would you like to use my board
anything you need whatsoever. Didn't know him, had never met him.
Unbelievably generous and professional. You won't find anybody who people
think higher of than Adam.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I mean, he's amazing guy. Great dude.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Does the Bulls broadcast well, big fan of Adam and
Mark Sanchez excellent call in that game as well. And
now the Commanders are red hot and they go into
Tampa this week.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
They certainly do, and we go into We're not supposed
to play favorites. This is probably our favorite category and
it's best enthusiasm for a big man. Chris Fowler, Dannerlatsky
and Lewis Riddick got the treat and the joy of
watching Raven's defensive tackle Michael Pierce making an interception.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
We all got to watch it at home. They got
to actually be on the call, and they nailed it.
Read it, go.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Zappy, Oh big foul Tusa, My goodness, Michael Pier, don't
kneel down.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Big one.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Here's Jolie.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Don't heeled down.
Speaker 10 (22:36):
I was about to go crazy as a C sixty
pie zach.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Ord a defensive coordinator, just running.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Down the sideline. Look at the whole you gonna chat
from big moment. I mean it was nice enough to
pad you do that thing that a house? Hey, I know, Mike,
my god.
Speaker 10 (22:54):
Marcus spears with big man Baald and put it on
the top of the list where he hit the knee quick.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
He said, no, I'm not gonna try I'm not gonna
try run it this day.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's awesome. Well he hit both these too, not just one.
He hit both these better. From Sam Fidam, there's three
sixty five conservative So Peter, this is might take on this.
They nailed this in the sense that for the fans
and them.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
There's this excitement, no little bit of disappointment about why
did we were about to have an all time moment?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
And I think that was perfect.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yet We've had a million moments where the big man
goes ten steps and then gets tackled.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, this one. The fact that he just succumbs to
it and goes it's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And I love that they shout out Marcus Spear, they
got the inside the family, and Hey, who's the biggest
player ever, Kyle the biggest player ever to score a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
The biggest big man touchdowns? You know who it is?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I would say it's either Keith Trailer or Ted Washington, Okay,
or is it Sam Adams?
Speaker 7 (23:52):
All Right?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
The heaviest player on record to ever have an interception,
not a big man touch on interception is Ted Washington
three hundred and seventy five.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I've got to pick in nineteen.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Ninety one, and then also had another one for the
Broncos in ninety four.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Wow did it twice? Ted Washington? That's incredible.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
And I think Peter brings up a good point or
Lavsky he throws back to his studio show, always do
that if your bread is buttered typically in these shows,
and then you get to go in the booth. Always
throw it back. Jason mccordy's done it, Ard All does it?
Or adult and bur Liston's done it. I respect that,
Orlovsky and I'm sure that Swagu respected it too.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yes, Hello, you know what's next? Peter off another ESPN moment,
off Scar of the Rails moment. Troickman and Joe Buck
were having fun on a Saturday night and when the
heaters were hot, Troickman was hotter.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Take a watch four feet that's what they're calling for
from the heater. You go tell Cam Hayward he needs
a backup. Yeah, let me tell you.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Those things kick out some heat too, So you're not careful,
your pants will catch on fire.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Pants on the ground, Pants on the ground, plants on
the ground. What's the reference?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
All right, we're looking at Larry Platte, who is a
former I mean, this is fifteen years ago American Idol
contestant who sang about seeing people out and about young
people whose pants would be on the ground, and the
song went pants on the ground, pants on the ground,
Looking like a fool with your pants on the ground. Now, Peter,
I'll tie it back in and I guarantee this is
why Joe Bucker remembers it. The Brett Favre Minnesota Vikings
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were a thing at this time, and after they would
win the game, they would go in the locker room
like the locker room speech, and Farv.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Would scream pants on the ground.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Because Percy Harvin went to and said, Brett brettep we win,
you got.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
To do the pants on the ground thing, and he
screamed it.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
And this is because of Larry Platt or reject didn't
win or anything, but he became one of these like
William Hung viral people before virals even a term for
pants on the ground.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I brought him back in the finaleos We're looking like
a fool with your pants on the ground.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
An incredible, incredible pull. And I'll say this again. I
say this.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
It's week eighteen. I don't know if Buck is going
with pants on the ground in week three the playoffs ten,
certainly not the playoffs, but empty it now it's like
what else am I going to talk about? We're doing
Larry Platt pants on the ground. Joe Troy, excellent job.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Shout out to Larry Platt.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Now for our best interview moment. This is one of
the coolest things we saw in Week eighteen. Pam Ahler
Oliver is in her thirtieth season as a sideline reporter
for Fox. She has interviewed everybody from Troy Aikman to
Joe Montana to today's stars and beyond. In her thirtieth season,
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she got to interview a quarterback who won a game
it might be his last regular season game of all time.
And this was really neat for all of the broadcast
enthusiasts out there.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Cool moment in football history.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Take a listen to Pam Oliver and Aaron Rodgers, two
legends of the game, conduct a postgame interview in a
meaningless Dolphins Jets performance.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
So what will you do in the coming days and
coming months before you decide what it is you want
to do for your next path.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
I'm gonna get home and relax.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
I'm gonna clear out my head and get healthy from.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
The bumps and bruises from the season.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
And I got a lot of gratitude right now. I'm
gonna join us tonight, But once I get back out West,
I'm gonna, you know, take my time, and I'm not
gonna hold anybody up. You know, I'm gonna have conversations
tomorrow with the everybody here with the Jets and see
what they're thinking and then make a decision before it
gets too Lady.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Offseason, whatever you do, all the best. I love you, Pam,
have you been?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Thank you the best?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Take care? Is that not amazing? It's really cool.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I get emotional because we watched football growing up and
it was Pam Oliver or anything everyone, and then we
watched Aaron Rodgers' career and it's like the mutual respect.
That's the stuff you don't see on Instagram. That's the
stuff you don't see on There's real respect for Pam
Oliver from Aaron Rodgers there and Kyle. It's not the
first time they've exchanged warm, you know, embraces in the
moment like that.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Now just a few years ago, this is long haired
Rogers with the Packers twenty twenty one. They just won
a game, they're starting to heat up, and there is
similar sentiments between he and Pam Oliver.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Rule it.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
As you get ready to go to care to play
the Cardinals, the red hot team, what are some of
your early thoughts on that game?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
It's gonna be a great Thursday night.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
They're a great football team.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
We're on a roll.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
We won six in a row.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Be good to see how we stack up against the
NFC's best.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Alrighty, go get them? Thank you love you too. Pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I mean, it's an you think about Rogers in his
career and all the postgame interviews that he's done. Obviously
he's done amazing features with Aaron Andrews, and we've seen.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It countless times before.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
But I don't know, just I'm getting emotional and sentimental
because we love football and.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We love that.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I think it's cool that Rogers' career seems like it's
going on for a century and it's not even close
to as long as Pam Oliver. Now, like Pam Oliver's
doing this for a decade before Rogers got even drafted
out of cow But I imagine how I mean, how
many times has he been on Fox? How many times
has he done a post game with Pam Oliver? One
hundred and two one? I have no idea, but it
is cool as if we we love the game, but
we also love the media part of the game, and
(28:57):
to see them two together. We're not gonna sit here crying.
But it's a really cool thing and we really respect it,
so respect.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
The two legends.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
And with that we had to the playoffs where the
best of the best will be on these calls.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Who will be the winners of next week's awards. You
have to stay tuned and let us know. Tweet us
if you see a great clip.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Remember pants on the ground, pants on the ground, looking
like a fool with the pants on the ground, pants
on there. That's great journalism right there too, Great journal
Larry Platt, Larry Platt.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I don't want to google Larry. I'm worried.
Speaker 10 (29:25):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, we just finished two hundred and seventy two regular
season games and we head to the playoffs, and in
a silo, you can imagine moments of the season, the
Hail Mary between the Commanders and the Bears. You can
remnder Thanksgiving Day and some of the great conquests that
we had there with the Lions holding off against the
Bears at the end of that. There's a million games
that we can discuss. Yet five still don't make sense
(29:52):
to me. Five still do not make sense.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Here here are the.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Five head scratching outcomes from the twenty to twenty four
regular season that you might have forgotten.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Who would have totally changed a playoff picture. They gone differently.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Number five, guys, The second worst team in the NFL
was the Cleveland Browns this season. They beat the Baltimore Ravens.
Week eight, the Ravens fell to the Browns in a
game that still makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
It was a game that Derrick Henry did score.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Early in this one, but the Jameis Winston led Browns
just threw all over the Baltimore Ravens. Guys, that's the
Tillman for a thirty eight yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
At the end of the game. The Ravens had a chance.
Lamar says, go deep people, he pumps, he threw it.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
He had a chance and Zick Flowers fell down and
the Browns beat the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Think about the Browns have the number two pick in
the draft. They beat it. That happened.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That might be the difference between the Browns having a
lower pick or who knows, the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Maybe haven't in a different way that they have the
playoffs and maybe the two seed. Number four on my list.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Week four, the La Rams at the time, who were
a one to two team, went to Chicago and lost
to the Bear.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
The Rams lost to the Bears this season. It happened, guys.
This is week four. We go back and what the
Dj Moore touchdown in the back here. You know, I
feel like I forgot about that. This happened.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
DeAndre Swift went and scampered for forty five yards as
the Shane Waldron led Bears offense just absolutely dominated. The
Rams did not have any red zone success. And then
this was the big play here minute three left to go.
Javon Britsker intercepts Matt Stafford. The Bears were four and two.
The Bears they were four and two team.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
They beat the Rams.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
They beat the division champion Rams. We didn't have to
play in week eighteam because they.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Know this happened. Yes, this is why the NFL is
such an amazing league. That happened. And guys, we talked
about the Ravens in week three, here we go, come
we go. Here, we got it. They beat the bill right,
they had this great air They beat the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
In week two, the Ravens lost at home to the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
What this was.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
That's a road game that happened on our shore.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Week there was a Sunday one o'clock start, and the
Raiders came in there and Gardner Minshew and the Raiders
walked right into the M and T bank and threw
the Duvante Adams form big plays and brock Bauers had
a big day. The Raiders beat the Ravens in twenty
twenty four. This happened the last play of the game.
This comes after you know, lamar out here, here's the lateral.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
To Justice Hill and he runs around and Justice Hill through.
Oh my gosh, Devanta Adams exhausted after the game. They
beat the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
A couple of weeks later, Devanta Adams would walk into
Tom Telesco's almost to be like I have to be traded,
and he got his wish and went to the Jets.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That happened too. Number three on our list and number
two on our list. I'm sorry. Maybe the most bizarre outcomeing.
If it goes differently, the Seahawks might be in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
In Week five, the New York Giants went up to
the Pacific Northwest and the New Yorkiants beat the Seahawks
in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
The New York Giants, who who had.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
One win at home ball season also had a win
at Loomen Field.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's head scratching, but it happened.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
And had this game gone differently, the Seahawks a team
who had a four game winning streak late in the season,
Maybe the Seahawks are not only in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Maybe the Seahawks are the division champions.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
And last week they would have been playing for a
lot more than just draft stock and where their draft
position would be.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Giants came in there. They got to go ahead field
goal late.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
They returned this putt block for a touchdown the Giants
or a field goat block for the Giants.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Simmons bought the field bawl. Yeah, that was it. They
had siventh They returned it for a touch was a
great moment. They were alive the Giants. They had beaten
the Browns, they had beaten the Seahawks on the road.
The Giants were alive.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
The Giants beat the Seahawks in a game this season.
But the biggest head scratching law of the entire twenty
twenty fourth season came on Week one, where the Joe
Burrow Jamar Chase Bengals lost at home to the JIROD.
Mayo coached Jacobi Burssett led Patriots. The Bengals opened the
(34:24):
season up with a loss to New England. That still
is a head scratching.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Outcome even today. Had the Bengals won this game, they're
probably playing in January.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Had the Bengals won this game, they probably would have
had a completely different trajectory on the season. The Patriots
flip until last week, were basically the number one peck
in the worst team in football.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Beat the Bengals on the road in their building, and.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Then everybody's survivor pool, and then everybody it's over.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And this was after a lot of head scratching about
the move to go to Mayo over offseason.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
And it was like, no, look, draw Mayo that running
hills this summer. Gerrod Mayo had not. Gerrod Mayo is
no longer a coach in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
He's going to be a coordinator, maybe at linebackers coach
somewhere else. And the Bengals are at home that's still
eighteen weeks later, is the most head scratching outcome of
any regular season game this season.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
The Bengals at home lost to the Patriots. There's my
list confusing games.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Looking back on it now, it all happened before the
halfway mark, but Kyle, I turned to you.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Does any does any game I didn't mention stand out?
Or does that all right?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
So the Bengals listen to the Patriots and Jacoby Brissett.
Jacoby Brissett is now starring in commercials that are based
cheer line the fact that he's a backup quarterback. He's
an insurance. But he was starting that game, the last
one and then I'll throw to la. I remember in
the Ravens loss to the Raiders, there's this great micd
up clip of Max Crosby on the Raiders' sideline going
to Gardner Minshew and be like, hey, I want to
see that Washington State gardener Mitsche. I want to see him,
(35:56):
and he's like, I got you, man, And then he
went out and beat Lamar Jackson. It was a stunning loss.
I still can't believe that happened. I forgot that Davante
was on the Raiders this year.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Year. That thing is way in the past. What do
you guys in l I feel like, you.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Know, I'm looking at that number one, you know, the
season opener the Bengals and the Patriots. I don't think
any of us had a lot of high hopes for
the Patriots, and I thought that would set the temple.
You know, fast forward eighteen weeks later, girod Mal no
longer the coach. You know, you would have thought that
he would have been given another opportunity, especially when you
think about the history you know of the Patriots with
you know, Bill Parcells and Belichick, those guys they started
(36:31):
off with five wins in their career and they were
given another opportunity. So anyways, you know, you think the Bengals,
they're pretty good team, and that was a strong win
opening win, but it wasn't enough for girod Mail. But yeah,
that was shocking when you think about it.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I look at some of those bad teams in the
NFL and I and I envisioned them like Quicksand in
the movie where somebody steps in and you're like.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, you start to sink.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Like the Giants jumped up and they grabbed the Seahawks'
leg and they pulled them into the quicksand and they
could could knock it out of the clutches. The Rams
were luckier than that. They lost to the Bears in
Week four, but they were still able to emerge victors
in the postseason. The fact that the Ravens are on
there twice for two really brutal losses and we're talking
about them hopefully winning in January is pretty remarkable. Peter,
(37:11):
great list as always.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, I mean, if the Ravens being on there twice, Peter,
does it ding away any.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Of the confidence life anything. They turned it around.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
They won four straight games to end the seasons, including
three in eleven days, So.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I think that it was good to have those then
got it out of the system. Let's embrace the weird.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
While we're talking, I pulled up the game recap of
Giants twenty nine Seahawks twenty Daniel Jones, currently a Viking, said,
you know, we've seen since training camp and much we
like our skill guys, and we think we can really
go a long way and make some.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Plays like he was just feeling it.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Like Daniel Jones, they had forded something yards of offense.
There was a great day to be a twenty twenty
four New York Giant.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Tennessee Titans beat the Texans this year.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
The New York Jets beat the Texans this year. There
were a lot of possible games on this list.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Those were our craziest outcomes fun excluding Week eighteen, which
had some backups involved in Yah We'll do it again.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I like this was that Giants game That wasn't the
bad Uniform game, was it?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That was the opening.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, that was the first, the first of seven weeks.
The Giants still celebrated their one hundred years.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Of being the Giants.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
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