January 28, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Peter Schrager, Kyle Brandt, Akbar Gbajabiamila and Ron Rivera answering several questions - Does Brian Schottenheimer give the Cowboys their best chance to win? How does the Aaron Glenn hire from the New York Jets feel different? Can the Raiders be immediate competitors in the AFC West? With the Super Bowl approaching, the crew addresses TIRED Super Bowl headlines.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
We are presented by Old Trappers Beef Jurkey live in
LA in New York. It's Tuesday, January twenty eighth. Here
is Zach Barbaja B Miller. There is Pierre Shugar, Kyle Brant.
I'm Jamie Ertle and here back to our table of
course for breakfast. Ron Rivero enough coach.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
A, gentlemen, were great, right?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We read your name a couple times this month. You
had some meetings with some teams. You want to tell
us what you've been up to since we've.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Seen last I interviewed with a few teams, you know,
looking at their their head coaching positions, and didn't get
the opportunity, but I'll tell you it was a tremendous experience.
It was kind of neat to get an opportunity to
talk to some of these owners and can tell you
a little bit more about what they are looking for
and what they hope to do this coming season.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Well, I can say they're missing out on a great coach. Wow,
I and just like the greatness on a T shirt?
How about that?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Let's go all that.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Well, you know, I'm wearing it in celebration of this
coming Super Bowl because Andy Reid, when I was in
Andy staff, one of the things that I always coach
always just to talk about where the heavyweight fights, the
heavyweight fights, and he would make that his theme of
the week. So for me, this is the theme of
the week because I really do think this is one
of the really good heavyweight fights that we're going to
get an opportunity to watch. I think this game is
going to be coming down to blows that each team's
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going to throw at each other, and at the end,
it's going to be the one that hits the most
body shots that's going to win this football.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Oh man, well, perfect, coach, awesome. Have we got some
topics we got to run through with you? All right,
let's begin in Dallas. It's a team that hopes to
find themselves playing in a Super Bowl sometime in the
near future, and with that, they have a new head coach. Yesterday,
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones introduced the team's newest head coach,
Bryan Schottenneimer.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Shot shot.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Nimer served as the Cowboys offensive coordinator for the last
two seasons, and now he gets the tap for the
head honcho job. Both Jerry Jones and the new coach
say the future is bright, or at least they hope.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So for this.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Team, this is the best way that we can go
to the playoffs and win. I'm not doing this by myself.
I've got the incredible support of Jerry, Steve and the
Jones family, the young men that are sitting behind you.
We're doing this together. So my message to the Cowboys
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fans and community is we're gonna do this together.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We're gonna win, and we're gonna.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Win a championship. Otherwise, why are we doing it?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
All?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Three and out, Keep it quick, keep it clean. We
got a lot of topics to get through. This is
our first one. Our reaction to Jerry Jones saying that
the decision to hire that man as his head coach
gives the Cowboys their best chance to win, Peter.
Speaker 8 (03:06):
Everything about this hire was unorthodox, even though he's been
in the building for the last three years as an
offensive coordinator. The fact that a we started off and
the Mike McCarthy thing dragged on so they couldn't even
interview guys like Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn, Matt n Aggie,
and Steve Spegnello because they missed the entire first week
of it. The fact that they actually go in house
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after not making the playoffs last year and kind of
hitting the roadbump after twelve win season, twelve win season,
twelve win season and not advancing to the NFC Championship.
Brown and then Shotty himself, who by all accounts is
a good dude in a great offensive mind. He took
his first head coaching job interview in two thousand and
six with the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Let me say that again.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
He had his first head coaching interview in two thousand
and six with the Dolphins, and it takes until twenty
twenty five for him to finally get that opportunity. And
I don't think Jerry and Steven really casted that wide
of a net. They only interviewed a certain group and
they didn't really go after some of the people from
outside of the building.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So this is an unorthodox hire.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
But I guess we've got to give Jerry and Steven
the benefit of out And I'm certainly not taking anything
away from Brian Schottenheimer, who comes from one of the
great football families and deserves his shot to be an
NFL head coach. It just didn't feel like the most
orthodox process or how we've seen it been done by
other teams for the last two decades.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Well, you know, I agree with what Peter said, this
was very unorthodox. But the idea in the thought process,
as far as I'm concerned, and I do believe this,
is they wanted to keep the offense as similar as possible.
If there's one thing you can do is you can
change your defense easily. It's a lot easier to do
that than it is offensively. But to change your offensive
game plans, the whole philosophy, the whole thought process, that's
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a very difficult thing.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Shot.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
He's a very bright offensive mind, and his whole thing
about we could win, we can win now, we can
still win now why because we're going to maintain what
we do on offense. We're not going to have to
change anything as far as that's concerned. So our guys
will come in and then this offseason we're going to
refine what we do and make it better. That's their
thought process, and that's why the Jones did what they
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did again. They wanted to keep Mike McCarthy because they
don't want to change the offense. They believe the offense
is good enough to win. They have players in that
offense that have the ability win.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
They just got to fix it. One thing they got
to do, and I said.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
This last year, They've got to run the ball better
and more consistent. They've got to take the pressure off
of Dak Prescott to always have to make the decisions.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Do that.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Find your running game, fix your running game. And I've
seen it already. Some people are projecting that they're going
to draft the running.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Back from Iowa in the first round. Iowa state. Excuse me,
that's what the prediction is.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So if you look at it, it's about getting that
running game fixed.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And I think Shot, he's right. They can win. They
can win now, Ron, you're fired up today. I can
tell it's coming through the screen here even in New York,
and it's contagious. I like it. I want to make
it unequivocally clear from the get go that I am
team Shottenheim. It's gone. I am team Shot only in
part because I am so annoyed by the disapproval. And
you knows disgust about everyone online. It's real easy to
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say this is a joke and this is a clown
show and everything. Everybody loves it. Let me get this straight.
So a few weeks back, there's this idea that maybe
Jerry Jones would hire Dion and there's a perception of oh,
you're just doing that for style and flash, and he's
not a conventional coach. Okay, So then he hires a
completely conventional coach. There's won in several different level. There's
been coordinators and position coaches, and it's like boring, what
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is this uninspired? Which one is it? You can't have
it both ways. I am completely on the teams side
of team Schottenheimer, a guy who has been with so
many different coaches, You know, so many different people, you
have continuity. He didn't win the room, and I actually
respect that the cowboys who built the room aren't interested
in winning the room. They're actually trying to win games.
I'm in on it and I'm going to stay in
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on it. I'm in with you as well. I think
what people and the fans are looking for, they're looking
for this magical coach that's going to go out there,
that's got named that's got credibility from you know, other
success that other those coaches are taking up. Those coaches
are coaching elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
So when you think about what's available and who's there,
I think Brian Schottenhammer is a pretty good coach, and
especially you know, having played for his father, knowing the
type of culture that he's able to bring into a
locker room coach. You talked about this too, the familiarity too,
that's something else and I would often and I'll present
this to some of the Cowboys fans out there as well.
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I'm gonna go basketball here. I've seen something like this before.
And this is when Phil Jackson was sitting as an
assistant coach and he was a lifer. He was a
longtime assistant coach before he got his opportunity. He was
coaching in the CBA, He was coaching over in Puerto Rico.
He was an assistant coach for a little bit from
the Chicago Bulls. Collins is out. He comes in and
he creates something different. People didn't know Phil Jackson like that.
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You knew him as a former player, but you didn't
know if he had the ability to be able to
coach the way he's coached, and I think that Brian
Schottenheimer has an ability to really elevate the count.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Don't forget though, Phil Jackson. There's a dude named Michael
Jordan that they think. Let's let's sen I'm not sure
if there's Michael George.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Do they even have Horace Grant? Like? What are we
talking about? Oh Man? All right?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
To a team that continues to seem to repeat decisions,
the Jets introduce their latest head coach, and whether or
not you think Aaron Glenn was the right spot, that
is the man that is going to run this team now.
He's a defensive minded head coach. He has high expectations
to turn this Jets team around.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
To any players that's here, now, put your seatbelts on
and get ready for the ride. Put your seatbelts on
and get ready for the ride.
Speaker 9 (08:39):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
There are going to be some challenges, but what challenges
becomes opportunity gets opportunity. But here's what I do know.
We're the freaking New York Jets, so we're bill for the.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Peter.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I love a good bleeped out moment from a head
coaching higher How does this one feel different than previous
head coaching decisions the Jets have made.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
I look, I've been through a lot a raw rob
press conferences before, and I'm sure Robert Salah had his
guys thinking all gas, no brakes and.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
The whole thing.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
I feel like Aaron Glenn walks the walk talks to talk.
What I liked about it was he came right out
and was like, I'm not calling the defense.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I will not be calling the I am the head coach.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
I will hire someone to call the defense, and I
will hire someone to call the offense.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I am a CEO. I am not one of.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
These hot shot coordinators who's going to step right in.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
But I can't in good faith just because.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
They brought out Nick Mangold and Damian Woody and whoever
else and get wrapped in this nostalgia for the nineteen
ninety eight Jets and immediately say this was the right hire.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I've got to wait and see.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
I also have to wait and see who the offensive
coordinator is, who the quarterback is, who the defensive coordinator is.
There's a lot of questions here. Look, he's a first
year head coach and they hired a first year GM
who is thirty eight years old, who four years ago
was an assistant on the pro side for the Broncos
during the co season, and it was not the number
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one or number two and number three guys. So Jets
fans get excited. The press conference is awesome and Aaron
Glenn is about all the right things.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
It feels different.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
But I also want to manage expectations and say, let
me plead the fifth here until I see what's.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Around this team and.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Who's playing for them, and also who's going to be
calling the shots on offense and defense.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I love the fact that he's a legacy player. Okay,
he played the game. His perspective is going to be different.
It's not going to make him better than anybody yet,
but he has a different approach, a different thought, a
different philosophy, a different idea that helps him going in.
It really truly does. He's got legitimacy. As soon as
he steps up in front of the team and starts
to talk about what they can become as Jets, he
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knows what it feels like. This is important for this
type of franchise. You know, I saw one of the
segments earlier we talked about the league is better win, Well,
the league is better when the Jets are better. Okay,
they're from the northeast coast all right on.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
The Eastern Seabird.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
One third of the US populations in the Eastern Seaboard.
That's why it's important. It's important that the Jets are
a good football team. I think they hired the right
legacy guy.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I think this is an opportunity for somebody new to
get an opportunity. This is similar, but it's different, different
because of who they chose. I think they chose the
right type of man.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I always say to that again, Ron on fire, Listen.
I like what you're talking about too, because Ron, we
started Good Morning Football in twenty sixteen as nine years ago,
and the Jets and Giants combined have been in one
playoff game since we started as a show. They're always terrible.
There's nobody who would like it more than us. Here's
what I give Aaron Glenn credit for. So go in
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there at that time, give that press conference. Understand right now,
it is disgusting in New York and New Jersey. It's
a terrible time of year. The season was off the rails.
It was weird. It was bad to walk in there
with that energy and that sense of life and those
sound bites is great. I will say I have seen
that edifice. That building just sap the life out of people.
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I've seen it. I was, there by coincidence on the
day that Todd Bowles was let go as the head coach.
I was in the building and it was like a morgue.
Robert Salad comes from San Francisco and he's Hercules meets
he Man and all energy and all juice and all gas.
And then I at the end of the tenure and
I did not recognize him. So I love the SoundBite.
And we're going to kick some ass and buckle the
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seatbelt and everything. Two years from now, if we check
in with Aaron Glenn, is it like aging like the
President and we don't even recognize him anymore. I've seen
good presentations before. I need more than that, and I
need it more from a former Jet. I just I
need wins. It's been nine years.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Well, I will say, black, don't crack. I don't know
if he'll age like the President, but I will say
the one thing I think he is going to crack.
He's going to crack the code for that of the
New York Jets. They've had a long history struggling, and
I think that this is going to be the opportunity
for him to get in there and show it. And
I think too as a former player. And they've had players,
former players come out there and coach, but I think
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for him, this is something different. I've spoken with other
former players who've played with him around the league, other
coaches and coordinators, and they all say that like this
dude knows how to coach. He's a guy that can
get people moving and getting guide to believe in themselves.
And I think the other advantage SuDS. He's coming from
the Detroit Lions where he's seen it modeled. He understands
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when you talk about being a CEO to be able
to see that and model it. If you can see it,
you can definitely be it. He's played it, he's lived it,
he's walked it. I think he's ready for the coach
coaching job and to take the New York jetson new levels.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Okay, new rule on GMF be no more phrases with
cracking it all right. In Vegas, the Raiders introduced Saint
Carrol as their newest head coach. The former Seahawks coach
says change a picture says the time for the Raiders
to begin winning is now.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Listen to Pe Carol, took us a few years to
get to the very top of the last couple programs.
I was with, we're starting right now, going for it immediately.
We're not. We don't have some time and we got
to make it five or six years down the road.
That's not what we're thinking. We're going to start right
now to go after it and build his team as
quickly as we can. As Johnson saw Max back there, Max,
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send the message, man, we're coming after you. We're gonna
come find you guys and get this thing rolling as
soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Can I just say that Pee Carrol looks great. I
need him to release the skincare routine and the lifestyle memoir, Like,
what is that man doing that puts him in in
that age and living his life this way? Just a sidebar,
Is this a realistic expectation what Pee Carrol just set
forth to see the Raiders compete in the AFC wes
Peter next year?
Speaker 8 (14:37):
No, I don't think you're looking at the Raiders and
saying this is going to be an overnight sensation like
Jayden Daniels and the Commanders just had I do think
that they're going to lay the groundwork. And that is
why you bring up Pete Carroll, and it's why you
bring a Ron Rivera in. It's why you bring guys
who have done it before when these tens are at
their nadeer and at the bottom of the barrel. In
this case, the Raiders are a blank slate. We don't
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know who their quarterback is. They're in a division with
three of the best head coaches and three quarterbacks that'll
give you fits over the next several decades. I think
in this case, Pete Carroll made a lot of sense
for this version of the Raiders because this is what
he did when he stepped into USC they were coming
off a horrible run, came in and built.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That thing up.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
It's what he did at the Seahawks. They were coming
down in a dark place. He brought them back up,
bringing a lot of young, youthful energy. Despite the fact
he's in his seventies, I still think Pete can bring it,
and for this Raiders team, I think he could start something.
But I don't think they're competing next year with the Broncos,
Chargers and Chiefs for a title.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
No chance.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Well, the really interesting thing for them is they don't
have a quarterback in a division where all three of
their components have very good quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You've got to find the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
If you can't find it in this draft, you've got
a plan for the future. So that's the biggest thing
that they've got to overcome, and that is they don't
have the guy.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
That pulls the trigger.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Find that guy, build around him, and again, Peter, I agree,
it's going to take time. You've got to lay the
groundwork and you've got to make sure you have people
in place going forward for the next couple of the
years that can handle how tough it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
This is not gonna be an easy road.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
If they find their quarterback immediately, you'll see them build, build, build.
If they don't, they're gonna stay low. They'll be down
in the cellar for quite some time. But the key
is finding that quarterback in the next two drafts.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Okay, right, I imagine you've known Pete Carroll for a
long time. Do you remember when you first met him?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yes, Yes, it was an opportunity. I was at USC
he was there, had an opportunity to talk about some
of the players that were coming out in the draft,
stuff like that. And I'll tell you he's a very
cerebral guy. You can tell he's a very bright guy.
He's also a very optimistic guy.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Like me.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
He really believes there's opportunities, there are chances, there challenges
going forward. And I do know he knows the challenge
is finding the next quarterback. He is gonna lay the groundwork,
He's gonna try and put pieces into place, but if
they can't find that quarterback, it's gonna be very tough sledding.
That's the truth. This is a this is a quarterback
driven league. Teams that have good quarterbacks get into the
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play barely getting into the playoffs. Teams that have very
good quarterbacks make it to the championship game, and the
teams that have elite quarterbacks are in the Super Bowl.
And that's what we're seeing right now. So find your
quarterback coach as soon as you can give yourself an
opportunity to build it, go out and win football games
in the future.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Ron get inside his head. Why would someone of his stature,
who is a legend in the NFL, legend in college
on in years as family, grandchildren, all that Why would
he want to jump back into a project like this
with no quarterback? Forget about why the Raiders shows him.
Why do you think Pete shows the Raiders challenge opportunity.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
You know, I went to Washington challenge opportunity.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I was able to lay some groundwork, and then you
see what's happened. They've taken over and they've gone the
right direction in Washington. I'm telling you it's amazing what
the right quarterback does, Peter, and you said it, if
you find the right quarterback, you are going to put
yourself in position. That's exactly what we saw with the Commanders.
And I think what Pete knows, and Pete does know this,
He's got to find his quarterback. He was fortunate he
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found his guy in Seattle, wins his Super Bowl, goes
to another Super Bowl. He was there twice with the
same quarterback. This is really about quarterback.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yeah, and I think the challenge too, is something that
speaks to any coach who's in that position that's had success.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Peter.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
You talked about what he did at USC, you know,
following after Hacket, and we know what he's done, you
know with the Seahawks. But what's more impressive is his
ability to sustain that. He leads USC as the second
and winning his coach in the school's history. You know,
at eighty three percent, he was winning his game. He
comes to the Seahawks does the same thing. He's able
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to sustain a certain level. And I think that speaks
to formula, being able to have the formula and understanding
how to get something nice and big, like a big puzzle,
like a thirty thousand piece puzzle, and trying to solve
all of that. And I think he really really enjoys
that project. And look, the Raiders have been a project
and they're going to be a project that it's been
a long time. We've talked about that, and I think
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this is the very type of.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Coach that the Raiders needed.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
They needed a person who has the recipe, the formula,
the platebook to change an organization. And I fully believe
in him. And look, they have that sixth pick. It's
going to be very interesting to see what they do
in the draft. Maybe they try to sneak up, Maybe
they try to get a shrad door standard, especially when
you think about what Jaydon Daniels has done for the Commanders.
Maybe they find that lightning in a bottle.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Look, I got one last one because we were talking
about earlier in the show, and Ron, I'm not sure
if you're on set in the green room or what
Kyle asked me. Why hasn't Spag's gotten any love in
these head coaching interviews? You worked with Steve Spagnolo, You
know Steve Spagnolo. You guys are on that Andy Reid
Tree make the case. Could Steve Spagnolo be a good
head coach in the NFL still in twenty twenty five,
twenty twenty six and beyond.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Oh, I believe so because if you look at what
he's done on the defensive side for Andy, he's taken
half the team and he's gotten half the team to
believe in what they do and the way they do it.
And you see it every week. Every week he comes
up with something different. Every week, he puts something out
in front of the players, and the players buy into it.
Steve has learned. Sure, his first time as a head
coach wasn't very good, and it takes time, and he
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didn't get the opportunity to continue to build. It took
me three years before we started winning in Carolina. Steve
didn't get three years. Who knows what would have happened
if he had gotten enough time. And I believe with time,
given time, Steve Spagnola could be a very good head
coach in this league because he's one of the smartest
guys you'll ever be around. He's one of the most
committed coordinators I've ever seen, because the guy is brilliant.
He was one of those guys that when we all
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got together on Andy's original coaching staff, he said, Man,
this dude's something else.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
He goes, he goes, he works.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
He's one of those guys that learns from everybody, and
he's a veteran guy that knows the game better than
people understand. It's just he hasn't had the opportunity because
the last few years he's been too busy.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, too busy in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah exactly. That's how I feel about you this morning.
You're like, man, you're really bringing the heat today on
Jim at b ron We appreciate it. You're going to
come back later in the hour. Stay tuned. Coming off
the Steelers, we got to talk Pittsburgh. They have some
decisions to make at quarterback this offseason. Speaking of the
guy that went to a couple of Super Bowls with
Keith Carroll. There's Russell Wilson. Is he coming back for
another year? In Pittsburgh. We discuss this and other topics again,
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running a back with Ron River Kyle.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Plus, there is a game. It is now twelve days away.
We're fired up. Peter's going there for Fox. Peter the Fox.
Cover's gonna be excellent, Right, it's gonna be Taylor, Donna
and Me. Let's go Taylor Donna and Peter and oh
maybe Travis. Maybe Taylor Donna and PS and d i
Roll with Scott Swift. I like Taylor's dad. Yeah, right,
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dieheart fan. He's at everything. It's he good with Ed Kelsey,
they hang all right, Morgan Morning Football?
Speaker 5 (21:36):
After this?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
All right, we are two hundred and ninety seven hours
from the super Bowl in New Orleans, and there was
a vocal part of the population that was openly rooting
for maybe Buffalo or Washington to win, if only because
there'd be something fresh to talk about. Neither of those
teams won. So we are getting Kansas City and philadelphiagain.
Should be a great matchup. However, we've talked about these
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teams a lot and I'm not sure there's necessarily a
lot of fresh topics out there, and yet the segments
must be filled, my friends, So we thought we'd get
ahead of it a Good Morning Football, in fact, two
hundred ninety seven hours ahead, and say, right now, what
is the Super Bowl storyline that we are already all
set with and we really don't need much more? With Peter,
I feel like this is a beltigh fastball for you.
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Where would you like to go the superstoryline? You are
good to go on, don't need anymore?
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Mine goes to July tenth, July eleventh, and I really
emptied the bag. Then when we had a show called
Hard Knocks in season off season with the New York Giants,
where we really had full documentation of the Giants telling
Sakuon Barkley, we're good, You're good. Let's just go our
separate ways. And then every week from that point on
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until this moment right here, we have mentioned on the
show that the Giants let go of say Kuon Barkley
for super Bowl Week. I am good with acknowledging that
the Giants did not resign say Kwon Barkley. I think
he's had an entire curse season that we could document.
I think that there's an amazing moments as an Eagle
we should be highlighting.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I also am not sure.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Sakuon Barkley runs for two thousand yards and it's in
a super Bowl if he's still with the Giants.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
We know it was a decision that was made.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
We have dissected it six thousand times before Super Bowl week.
I know we call them just casual fans and maybe
they don't know the story. And I'll give Brady and
Burkhart then, okay, in a pass if they want to
just present the storyline of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But for our show, if you're a twenty.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
Four hour a day football fan, I don't know if
we need to go back into Joe Shane's living room
and into that coach's office where they're discussing it. I'm good,
And I know if I'm Devin Singletary or Jermaine Lumineuur
or John Runyon who they spent the money on instead,
I think they're good also. So let's just be good
with Saquon Giants talk and maybe move on to Saquon
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Eagles talk.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I'm good. I like you here, I like it all right.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
So this is one that I am really passionate about.
I am absolutely tired of Patrick the Patrick Mahomes chasing
Tom Brady's storyline. Let's just get rid of it. Okay,
look what Patrick Mahomes has done. And first, let me
give credit to Tom Brady, because I think what Tom
Brady has done in his career speaks to his longevity
and his dedication and his greatness. But what Patrick Mahomes
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is doing is something very unique. He's in a class
of his own. We don't need to measure him to
Tom Brady anymore because he is doing something at a
very young age. He's on the cuss of doing a
three peat, a trilogy, three in a row that has
never been done in NFL history. Let's celebrate him for
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what he is and what he's accomplished in his short career.
Thus far, I say we need to redefine when it
comes to greatness. To me, I've always said that comparison
is the thief of all joy. And I go to
Bill Russell and Michael Jordan, Bill Russell eleven Championships and
we've said that this is the standard when you talk
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about NBA Championships eleven eleven, But somehow in recent conversations.
When whatever you ask who's the greatest of all time,
it's this man right here, Air Jordan, Michael Jordan. Michael
Jordan has six championships. He doesn't have eleven, he has six.
But because we've recognized the greatness in what he's done
in his timeframe, we call him the greatest. That we
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recognize what he's done, it's time to recognize what Patrick
Mahomes has done on his way to getting perhaps his
fourth championship.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Comparison is the Thief of all joys. It sounds like
something you would read in a self help book. I
personally despise self help books. Don't recommend them to me,
don't send them. This really helped me, I think, if
it helps you, we're two different people. Don't send him
my way. So when aj Brown showed up on the
bench that week with reading Inner Excellence, I was immediately
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over it. After I saw him doing it, Off Bar
showed up with the book. He's talked to the author.
I appreciate your dedication. This was an annoying prop thing
to me. If he reads it, great, if it helps
him awesome. Instead, what I would find even more fascinating
is if he read this book that I personally just
made up during a commercial break, and it's titled This
Outer Acceptance, How to Make Any Play that comes your
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way on the Road to a Super Bowl, written by
Kellen Moore AJ Brown, I would say, stop looking for
inner excellence and just catch the ball when it's thrown
to you and be happy with that. In the postgame
interview with Stacy Dill's the other day after the NFC Championship,
she asked him, were you searching for the inner excellence?
And he's like, yeah, I guess I always am, Like
I'm done talking about inter excellence, outer just outer accept
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the fact that you are going to New Orleans and
playing in a Super Bowl. I'm over this book. Makeup
for ten books. I don't care self help, Kyle, I'm
over this.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
It's another banger, Jamie. Just a great answer. I was
completely with you, and it's good luck keeping that out
of the storylines. Mine has been well established. If you've
been on the show, if you watch the show, you
know that I despise adult birthdays. I don't like adults
celebrating their birthdays. I don't like me celebrating my birthday.
I just once, if you're celebrating your birthday and talking
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about your birthday a lot. You were at the roller
rink with the other nine year old friends you have
from fourth grade. I just don't like it. I like
television segments about birthdays even less. I'm in the minority
in that. In this crowd, I just don't like unless
it's twenty one, thirty, forty fifty six, fine, these random
on forty three? Who cares? I hate it, And which
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is why I'm incredibly chagrined to remind the public that
on February ninth, Super Bowl Sunday, it's Sakuon Barkley's birthday
and he turns twenty eight years old, and it is
just so irresistible to talk about the birthday. Boy gets
a touchdown. It's his birthday. It's his birthday, and I
wish it ended there and that would be enough. On
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February ninth, the Super Bowl Sunday, it's also Cooper de
Jean's birthday, who is turning twenty two. Now. If he
was turning twenty one, then we got something. You win
the Super Bowl, you can do twenty one shots and
puke and the gutter. That's great, guys. We have two
birthdays from the Eagles on Super Bowl Sunday. I wish
it'd stop there. There will be a reference with because
of Philadelphia too. It's always sunny Philadelphia on February ninth,
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Super Bowl Sunday. It's Charlie Day's birthday. I'm not making
this up. It's not Kind's birthday too. It's all coming together,
so much birthday talk, and I had to Google to
make sure it's not. It's not Burkhart or Brady's birthday
or Ea Ronald It's not, thank God. But I would
just ask all of them. I understand people love birthdays,
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and I'm a total curmudgeon when it comes to birthdays.
Can we keep it light? Can we just not go
a deep dive on it happens to be the same
day you were born, it's the Super Bowl. There's so
many more interesting things about Saquan Degen and Charlie Day
for that matter. And yet it's already become a monster online.
The tweets are already. I just bring them up. People
are just they're tweeting their backsides up. Cooper de Gene
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gets his first interception on his birthday in the Super Bowl.
That's from Uncle Vaughan, Uncle Vaughan respect this next tweet
for them to play the Soup Bowl on their birthdays.
That's definitely a good sign. Is it? Isn't that any
connected tessue whatsoever. If it was their birthday in August,
they're not going to win the game. And then the
best one, Look at this, they're Jersey numbers. Wait a second,
Super fifty nine, twenty six.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Plus, all right, I like that one.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
That's real the sign, The signs are there. So Peter
likes it, and most people do like birthdays. I'm not
telling you I'm not a jerk about this. I'm admitting it,
but I'm just over it. Once you turn twenty one,
no one cares about your birthday. And if you care
that much about your birthday, I promise the people around
you are pretending. So please, I'm already sick that it's
Sakwanda Jean's and Charlie Day's birthday. Let's send it there, please.
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And Kyle, where are you from?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
What You're from?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Chicago right morning? Raised in Chicago suburbs, Okay.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
And so you would appreciate this because the week after
the Super Bowl and after their birthday, it's your favorite
Michael Jordan's birthday February seventeenth, see another birthday.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
See I know you'd appreciate it. You appreciate my whole life.
He's the most famous athlete ever. I have no idea
when his birthday is. Who cares? You don't get me
start on Zodiac time. You can go down that thing too.
But that's the ugly, stupid cousin of birthdays. Thank god
we got that out of the way. You feel better, No,
I feel worse because I know it's inevitable. I'm trying
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to hold back the leaks and the damn it's not
gonna happen. It's gonna be the cake man's.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Face if he wins the Super Bowl. You like you
got another thing coming, all right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Gonna get frosting all of the Lombardi Trophy. They were
going to disrespect your de file, the sterling silver butter Cake.
Charlie Day, Happy birthday, every night. Enjoy buddy.
Speaker 8 (30:49):
Welcome back to Good Morning Football. You know we've got
Ron Rivera at the table. There's still so many questions
we want to ask Ron, and he's got so many
connections around the league and so much great experience. Ron
the first thing I have. We're here in New York
and this Jets process was length They said they were
going to uncover every stone. You were one of the
head coaching candidates they actually met with. Now that it's
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all said and done and Aaron Glenn has gotten the job,
can you take us inside the room and maybe for
Jets fans, tell us what they were asking you and
maybe what they were looking for in a head coach
through the questions that they asked during your interview.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
You know, probably the first and foremost thing was leadership.
What type of leader are you? How are you going
to lead this football team? I think that was one
of the things that they're looking for as a guy
to step up in front of everybody and be that leader.
And again, Aaron, I think is a terrific choice because
of the legacy thing as well. You know, he's a
big part of their history. He's been part of the history,
so he understands what it takes the dynamics of what
it takes to.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Be a New York Jet.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Secondly, I think one of the more important things also
is a guy that's going to be able to relate
and get the players to buy in. He's coming from
a process that he has gone through in Detroit and
when they were very successful. He's going to point to
that use that examples. So now what he's going to
probably do too is find a couple of guys from
Detroit that he could pluck, put them on the Jets roster,
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and be able to have to those guys step up
and talk about who Aaron Glenn is as a coach,
but more importantly as a person, and how he's going
to relate to his team. And I think that's going
to be very very important as well.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
And coach, you've been in this position before, obviously coming
into this position, what would you say to Coach Glenn
and for all the other coaches too that are just
coming into this spot where sometimes it's very easy to
model what you've seen before that's had success and you
try to replicate it rather than being yourself. Like, how
does a coach come into his own without trying to
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replicate what he'd seen before.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
That's a great question because what happens a lot of
guys try to become the guy that they were coaching for,
you know, and you can't be that guy because players
will feel it and they'll understand you're not being authentic.
If you replicate what's happened before, but you're authentic and
do it in your own way, have your own style,
it's going to be very successful. A great example of
guys that's done that and done it very well is
Sean McDermott up in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Sean learned from Andy. He learned from me, but Sean
took it and made it his own.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
That's important because the players feel it when you're really authentic,
and I think Erin Glynn's going to be very authentic
his first press conference, that was Aaron Glynn. That's what
the players need to understand. They're going to get that
guy every day for three hundred and sixty five days
during the season.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Or here I should say nothing. Coach. You mentioned Sean McDermott.
He's obviously coming off a very difficult defeat, another bitter
one to Kansas City. To Andy. There is a vocal
minority online that says maybe it's time to consider something
different at head coach. I personally don't agree with it,
but Andy's the perfect example. In Philadelphia, you tried, you tried,
you tried. Eventually they moved on. It was a better
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fit for both of them. Take ye, your relationship from McDermott,
everything you know about him, What do you say in
response to that they can't get over the mountain and
he has this unbelievable talented quarterback. When you hear that
maybe it's time to at least consider a different head coach,
how do you feel? Well?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I feel bad about it, because again, the truth of
the matter is this is a player's game. What one spot,
one position. They've got to find this out him and
Brandon Bean, you got to get together and talk about
what's the one person, the one player, the one type
of player or position that we can We got to
find that'll take us to the next step. That's how
close they are. They are so close that you can
feel it that I really believe it's about finding the
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one more right guy that fits for them and says, hey,
I'm here to help take us over to the top
less role.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I like jumping all around with you in the head
coaching topics. Do you find it as entertaining as we do?
Now that you look at the four head coaches in
the AFC West and the names that are in that room,
and the press conferences that we are going to see
from these guys and Pete Carroll Harbaugh, Sean Payton and
Andy Reid? Do you a find that entertaining? And b
if you are a coach in a division like that,
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is there an extra juice went into looking at that
guy across the.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Sideline at you?
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Well, most certainly that really is extra juice. I mean
you think about who you're going to be competing against,
who you're going to be calling plays against, how you're
going to match up, and then you try to think, well,
what's he telling his guys? You know, what is he
doing that that that you know is going to try
and create that edge? So you really do think about
those things. I always used to say about Andy, because
you know, we all grew up around Andy, you know,
myself and Sean and John harbaumby all these I mean
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on that original staff there were eight young guys that
all became head coaches in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
WOW.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
And I promise you every tib I used to coach
against Andy, I used to think he knows that I know,
So he knows that I know, He's going to do
something he doesn't think I know.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And you always try to figure out where he's going.
I mean, that's who Andy is.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I mean, he's trying to find that one little chink,
that one little thing that he can get and give
his team an edge.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Really quick. Ron and I love that. It's like a
game of game theory.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You're a former Bears legend, you work for the Bears.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
Obviously they hire Ben Johnson, and his opening press conference,
he mentions Dan Campbell by name, Kevin O'Connor by name,
and then out of nowhere, he says, and I can't
wait to be Matt Lafleur twice, as I've done before
in my career. He and Lafloor have no relationship prior
to that statement. What was your reaction to him calling
Lafleur out by name.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Let's go, baby, let's go. I'm a Chicago Bear. I
had an op opportunity when I played back in the
day to have a winning record. Okay, so I was
thirteen and five against the Packers as a Bear when
I played for the team back in the eighties. And
so anytime a head coach comes out and he challenges
green Bay, to me, that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
That's what you want.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
You want your guy to put it out there that,
hey man, we're coming after green Bay because for us.
That's the greatest natural rivalry in the NFL, and the
Bears and the Packers, and so to see a coach
that's confident that, hey, he's going to put it out there.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Now, he's got to live up.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
To it, a little bit of pressure on himself, but
I think he loves the pressure.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
What a phenomenal elbow that was to green Bay. I
had the opportunity to be thirteen and five against the
green Bay past, to have a winning record against the
green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Awesome, coach. We appreciate you so much.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
The most natural rivalry in the NFL exists between Chicago
green Bay.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well done, Gross,
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
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LA in New York. It's Tuesday, January twenty eighth. Here
is Zach Barbaja B Miller. There is Pierre Shugar, Kyle Brant.
I'm Jamie Ertle and here back to our table of
course for breakfast. Ron Rivero enough coach.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
A, gentlemen, were great, right?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We read your name a couple times this month. You
had some meetings with some teams. You want to tell
us what you've been up to since we've.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Seen last I interviewed with a few teams, you know,
looking at their their head coaching positions, and didn't get
the opportunity, but I'll tell you it was a tremendous experience.
It was kind of neat to get an opportunity to
talk to some of these owners and can tell you
a little bit more about what they are looking for
and what they hope to do this coming season.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Well, I can say they're missing out on a great coach. Wow,
I and just like the greatness on a T shirt?
How about that?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Let's go all that.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Well, you know, I'm wearing it in celebration of this
coming Super Bowl because Andy Reid, when I was in
Andy staff, one of the things that I always coach
always just to talk about where the heavyweight fights, the
heavyweight fights, and he would make that his theme of
the week. So for me, this is the theme of
the week because I really do think this is one
of the really good heavyweight fights that we're going to
get an opportunity to watch. I think this game is
going to be coming down to blows that each team's
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going to throw at each other, and at the end,
it's going to be the one that hits the most
body shots that's going to win this football.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Oh man, well, perfect, coach, awesome. Have we got some
topics we got to run through with you? All right,
let's begin in Dallas. It's a team that hopes to
find themselves playing in a Super Bowl sometime in the
near future, and with that, they have a new head coach. Yesterday,
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones introduced the team's newest head coach,
Bryan Schottenneimer.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Shot shot.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Nimer served as the Cowboys offensive coordinator for the last
two seasons, and now he gets the tap for the
head honcho job. Both Jerry Jones and the new coach
say the future is bright, or at least they hope.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So for this.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Team, this is the best way that we can go
to the playoffs and win. I'm not doing this by myself.
I've got the incredible support of Jerry, Steve and the
Jones family, the young men that are sitting behind you.
We're doing this together. So my message to the Cowboys
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fans and community is we're gonna do this together.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We're gonna win, and we're gonna.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Win a championship. Otherwise, why are we doing it?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
All?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Three and out, Keep it quick, keep it clean. We
got a lot of topics to get through. This is
our first one. Our reaction to Jerry Jones saying that
the decision to hire that man as his head coach
gives the Cowboys their best chance to win, Peter.
Speaker 8 (03:06):
Everything about this hire was unorthodox, even though he's been
in the building for the last three years as an
offensive coordinator. The fact that a we started off and
the Mike McCarthy thing dragged on so they couldn't even
interview guys like Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn, Matt n Aggie,
and Steve Spegnello because they missed the entire first week
of it. The fact that they actually go in house
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after not making the playoffs last year and kind of
hitting the roadbump after twelve win season, twelve win season,
twelve win season and not advancing to the NFC Championship.
Brown and then Shotty himself, who by all accounts is
a good dude in a great offensive mind. He took
his first head coaching job interview in two thousand and
six with the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Let me say that again.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
He had his first head coaching interview in two thousand
and six with the Dolphins, and it takes until twenty
twenty five for him to finally get that opportunity. And
I don't think Jerry and Steven really casted that wide
of a net. They only interviewed a certain group and
they didn't really go after some of the people from
outside of the building.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So this is an unorthodox hire.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
But I guess we've got to give Jerry and Steven
the benefit of out And I'm certainly not taking anything
away from Brian Schottenheimer, who comes from one of the
great football families and deserves his shot to be an
NFL head coach. It just didn't feel like the most
orthodox process or how we've seen it been done by
other teams for the last two decades.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Well, you know, I agree with what Peter said, this
was very unorthodox. But the idea in the thought process,
as far as I'm concerned, and I do believe this,
is they wanted to keep the offense as similar as possible.
If there's one thing you can do is you can
change your defense easily. It's a lot easier to do
that than it is offensively. But to change your offensive
game plans, the whole philosophy, the whole thought process, that's
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a very difficult thing.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Shot.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
He's a very bright offensive mind, and his whole thing
about we could win, we can win now, we can
still win now why because we're going to maintain what
we do on offense. We're not going to have to
change anything as far as that's concerned. So our guys
will come in and then this offseason we're going to
refine what we do and make it better. That's their
thought process, and that's why the Jones did what they
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did again. They wanted to keep Mike McCarthy because they
don't want to change the offense. They believe the offense
is good enough to win. They have players in that
offense that have the ability win.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
They just got to fix it. One thing they got
to do, and I said.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
This last year, They've got to run the ball better
and more consistent. They've got to take the pressure off
of Dak Prescott to always have to make the decisions.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Do that.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Find your running game, fix your running game. And I've
seen it already. Some people are projecting that they're going
to draft the running.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Back from Iowa in the first round. Iowa state. Excuse me,
that's what the prediction is.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So if you look at it, it's about getting that
running game fixed.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And I think Shot, he's right. They can win. They
can win now, Ron, you're fired up today. I can
tell it's coming through the screen here even in New York,
and it's contagious. I like it. I want to make
it unequivocally clear from the get go that I am
team Shottenheim. It's gone. I am team Shot only in
part because I am so annoyed by the disapproval. And
you knows disgust about everyone online. It's real easy to
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say this is a joke and this is a clown
show and everything. Everybody loves it. Let me get this straight.
So a few weeks back, there's this idea that maybe
Jerry Jones would hire Dion and there's a perception of oh,
you're just doing that for style and flash, and he's
not a conventional coach. Okay, So then he hires a
completely conventional coach. There's won in several different level. There's
been coordinators and position coaches, and it's like boring, what
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is this uninspired? Which one is it? You can't have
it both ways. I am completely on the teams side
of team Schottenheimer, a guy who has been with so
many different coaches, You know, so many different people, you
have continuity. He didn't win the room, and I actually
respect that the cowboys who built the room aren't interested
in winning the room. They're actually trying to win games.
I'm in on it and I'm going to stay in
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on it. I'm in with you as well. I think
what people and the fans are looking for, they're looking
for this magical coach that's going to go out there,
that's got named that's got credibility from you know, other
success that other those coaches are taking up. Those coaches
are coaching elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
So when you think about what's available and who's there,
I think Brian Schottenhammer is a pretty good coach, and
especially you know, having played for his father, knowing the
type of culture that he's able to bring into a
locker room coach. You talked about this too, the familiarity too,
that's something else and I would often and I'll present
this to some of the Cowboys fans out there as well.
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I'm gonna go basketball here. I've seen something like this before.
And this is when Phil Jackson was sitting as an
assistant coach and he was a lifer. He was a
longtime assistant coach before he got his opportunity. He was
coaching in the CBA, He was coaching over in Puerto Rico.
He was an assistant coach for a little bit from
the Chicago Bulls. Collins is out. He comes in and
he creates something different. People didn't know Phil Jackson like that.
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You knew him as a former player, but you didn't
know if he had the ability to be able to
coach the way he's coached, and I think that Brian
Schottenheimer has an ability to really elevate the count.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Don't forget though, Phil Jackson. There's a dude named Michael
Jordan that they think. Let's let's sen I'm not sure
if there's Michael George.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Do they even have Horace Grant? Like? What are we
talking about? Oh Man? All right?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
To a team that continues to seem to repeat decisions,
the Jets introduce their latest head coach, and whether or
not you think Aaron Glenn was the right spot, that
is the man that is going to run this team now.
He's a defensive minded head coach. He has high expectations
to turn this Jets team around.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
To any players that's here, now, put your seatbelts on
and get ready for the ride. Put your seatbelts on
and get ready for the ride.
Speaker 9 (08:39):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
There are going to be some challenges, but what challenges
becomes opportunity gets opportunity. But here's what I do know.
We're the freaking New York Jets, so we're bill for the.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Peter.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I love a good bleeped out moment from a head
coaching higher How does this one feel different than previous
head coaching decisions the Jets have made.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
I look, I've been through a lot a raw rob
press conferences before, and I'm sure Robert Salah had his
guys thinking all gas, no brakes and.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
The whole thing.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
I feel like Aaron Glenn walks the walk talks to talk.
What I liked about it was he came right out
and was like, I'm not calling the defense.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I will not be calling the I am the head coach.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
I will hire someone to call the defense, and I
will hire someone to call the offense.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I am a CEO. I am not one of.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
These hot shot coordinators who's going to step right in.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
But I can't in good faith just because.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
They brought out Nick Mangold and Damian Woody and whoever
else and get wrapped in this nostalgia for the nineteen
ninety eight Jets and immediately say this was the right hire.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I've got to wait and see.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
I also have to wait and see who the offensive
coordinator is, who the quarterback is, who the defensive coordinator is.
There's a lot of questions here. Look, he's a first
year head coach and they hired a first year GM
who is thirty eight years old, who four years ago
was an assistant on the pro side for the Broncos
during the co season, and it was not the number
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one or number two and number three guys. So Jets
fans get excited. The press conference is awesome and Aaron
Glenn is about all the right things.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
It feels different.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
But I also want to manage expectations and say, let
me plead the fifth here until I see what's.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Around this team and.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Who's playing for them, and also who's going to be
calling the shots on offense and defense.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I love the fact that he's a legacy player. Okay,
he played the game. His perspective is going to be different.
It's not going to make him better than anybody yet,
but he has a different approach, a different thought, a
different philosophy, a different idea that helps him going in.
It really truly does. He's got legitimacy. As soon as
he steps up in front of the team and starts
to talk about what they can become as Jets, he
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knows what it feels like. This is important for this
type of franchise. You know, I saw one of the
segments earlier we talked about the league is better win, Well,
the league is better when the Jets are better. Okay,
they're from the northeast coast all right on.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
The Eastern Seabird.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
One third of the US populations in the Eastern Seaboard.
That's why it's important. It's important that the Jets are
a good football team. I think they hired the right
legacy guy.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I think this is an opportunity for somebody new to
get an opportunity. This is similar, but it's different, different
because of who they chose. I think they chose the
right type of man.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I always say to that again, Ron on fire, Listen.
I like what you're talking about too, because Ron, we
started Good Morning Football in twenty sixteen as nine years ago,
and the Jets and Giants combined have been in one
playoff game since we started as a show. They're always terrible.
There's nobody who would like it more than us. Here's
what I give Aaron Glenn credit for. So go in
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there at that time, give that press conference. Understand right now,
it is disgusting in New York and New Jersey. It's
a terrible time of year. The season was off the rails.
It was weird. It was bad to walk in there
with that energy and that sense of life and those
sound bites is great. I will say I have seen
that edifice. That building just sap the life out of people.
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I've seen it. I was, there by coincidence on the
day that Todd Bowles was let go as the head coach.
I was in the building and it was like a morgue.
Robert Salad comes from San Francisco and he's Hercules meets
he Man and all energy and all juice and all gas.
And then I at the end of the tenure and
I did not recognize him. So I love the SoundBite.
And we're going to kick some ass and buckle the
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seatbelt and everything. Two years from now, if we check
in with Aaron Glenn, is it like aging like the
President and we don't even recognize him anymore. I've seen
good presentations before. I need more than that, and I
need it more from a former Jet. I just I
need wins. It's been nine years.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Well, I will say, black, don't crack. I don't know
if he'll age like the President, but I will say
the one thing I think he is going to crack.
He's going to crack the code for that of the
New York Jets. They've had a long history struggling, and
I think that this is going to be the opportunity
for him to get in there and show it. And
I think too as a former player. And they've had players,
former players come out there and coach, but I think
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for him, this is something different. I've spoken with other
former players who've played with him around the league, other
coaches and coordinators, and they all say that like this
dude knows how to coach. He's a guy that can
get people moving and getting guide to believe in themselves.
And I think the other advantage SuDS. He's coming from
the Detroit Lions where he's seen it modeled. He understands
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when you talk about being a CEO to be able
to see that and model it. If you can see it,
you can definitely be it. He's played it, he's lived it,
he's walked it. I think he's ready for the coach
coaching job and to take the New York jetson new levels.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Okay, new rule on GMF be no more phrases with
cracking it all right. In Vegas, the Raiders introduced Saint
Carrol as their newest head coach. The former Seahawks coach
says change a picture says the time for the Raiders
to begin winning is now.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Listen to Pe Carol, took us a few years to
get to the very top of the last couple programs.
I was with, we're starting right now, going for it immediately.
We're not. We don't have some time and we got
to make it five or six years down the road.
That's not what we're thinking. We're going to start right
now to go after it and build his team as
quickly as we can. As Johnson saw Max back there, Max,
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send the message, man, we're coming after you. We're gonna
come find you guys and get this thing rolling as
soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Can I just say that Pee Carrol looks great. I
need him to release the skincare routine and the lifestyle memoir, Like,
what is that man doing that puts him in in
that age and living his life this way? Just a sidebar,
Is this a realistic expectation what Pee Carrol just set
forth to see the Raiders compete in the AFC wes
Peter next year?
Speaker 8 (14:37):
No, I don't think you're looking at the Raiders and
saying this is going to be an overnight sensation like
Jayden Daniels and the Commanders just had I do think
that they're going to lay the groundwork. And that is
why you bring up Pete Carroll, and it's why you
bring a Ron Rivera in. It's why you bring guys
who have done it before when these tens are at
their nadeer and at the bottom of the barrel. In
this case, the Raiders are a blank slate. We don't
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know who their quarterback is. They're in a division with
three of the best head coaches and three quarterbacks that'll
give you fits over the next several decades. I think
in this case, Pete Carroll made a lot of sense
for this version of the Raiders because this is what
he did when he stepped into USC they were coming
off a horrible run, came in and built.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That thing up.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
It's what he did at the Seahawks. They were coming
down in a dark place. He brought them back up,
bringing a lot of young, youthful energy. Despite the fact
he's in his seventies, I still think Pete can bring it,
and for this Raiders team, I think he could start something.
But I don't think they're competing next year with the Broncos,
Chargers and Chiefs for a title.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
No chance.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Well, the really interesting thing for them is they don't
have a quarterback in a division where all three of
their components have very good quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You've got to find the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
If you can't find it in this draft, you've got
a plan for the future. So that's the biggest thing
that they've got to overcome, and that is they don't
have the guy.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
That pulls the trigger.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Find that guy, build around him, and again, Peter, I agree,
it's going to take time. You've got to lay the
groundwork and you've got to make sure you have people
in place going forward for the next couple of the
years that can handle how tough it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
This is not gonna be an easy road.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
If they find their quarterback immediately, you'll see them build, build, build.
If they don't, they're gonna stay low. They'll be down
in the cellar for quite some time. But the key
is finding that quarterback in the next two drafts.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Okay, right, I imagine you've known Pete Carroll for a
long time. Do you remember when you first met him?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yes, Yes, it was an opportunity. I was at USC
he was there, had an opportunity to talk about some
of the players that were coming out in the draft,
stuff like that. And I'll tell you he's a very
cerebral guy. You can tell he's a very bright guy.
He's also a very optimistic guy.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Like me.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
He really believes there's opportunities, there are chances, there challenges
going forward. And I do know he knows the challenge
is finding the next quarterback. He is gonna lay the groundwork,
He's gonna try and put pieces into place, but if
they can't find that quarterback, it's gonna be very tough sledding.
That's the truth. This is a this is a quarterback
driven league. Teams that have good quarterbacks get into the
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play barely getting into the playoffs. Teams that have very
good quarterbacks make it to the championship game, and the
teams that have elite quarterbacks are in the Super Bowl.
And that's what we're seeing right now. So find your
quarterback coach as soon as you can give yourself an
opportunity to build it, go out and win football games
in the future.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Ron get inside his head. Why would someone of his stature,
who is a legend in the NFL, legend in college
on in years as family, grandchildren, all that Why would
he want to jump back into a project like this
with no quarterback? Forget about why the Raiders shows him.
Why do you think Pete shows the Raiders challenge opportunity.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
You know, I went to Washington challenge opportunity.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I was able to lay some groundwork, and then you
see what's happened. They've taken over and they've gone the
right direction in Washington. I'm telling you it's amazing what
the right quarterback does, Peter, and you said it, if
you find the right quarterback, you are going to put
yourself in position. That's exactly what we saw with the Commanders.
And I think what Pete knows, and Pete does know this,
He's got to find his quarterback. He was fortunate he
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found his guy in Seattle, wins his Super Bowl, goes
to another Super Bowl. He was there twice with the
same quarterback. This is really about quarterback.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yeah, and I think the challenge too, is something that
speaks to any coach who's in that position that's had success.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Peter.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
You talked about what he did at USC, you know,
following after Hacket, and we know what he's done, you
know with the Seahawks. But what's more impressive is his
ability to sustain that. He leads USC as the second
and winning his coach in the school's history. You know,
at eighty three percent, he was winning his game. He
comes to the Seahawks does the same thing. He's able
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to sustain a certain level. And I think that speaks
to formula, being able to have the formula and understanding
how to get something nice and big, like a big puzzle,
like a thirty thousand piece puzzle, and trying to solve
all of that. And I think he really really enjoys
that project. And look, the Raiders have been a project
and they're going to be a project that it's been
a long time. We've talked about that, and I think
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this is the very type of.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Coach that the Raiders needed.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
They needed a person who has the recipe, the formula,
the platebook to change an organization. And I fully believe
in him. And look, they have that sixth pick. It's
going to be very interesting to see what they do
in the draft. Maybe they try to sneak up, Maybe
they try to get a shrad door standard, especially when
you think about what Jaydon Daniels has done for the Commanders.
Maybe they find that lightning in a bottle.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Look, I got one last one because we were talking
about earlier in the show, and Ron, I'm not sure
if you're on set in the green room or what
Kyle asked me. Why hasn't Spag's gotten any love in
these head coaching interviews? You worked with Steve Spagnolo, You
know Steve Spagnolo. You guys are on that Andy Reid
Tree make the case. Could Steve Spagnolo be a good
head coach in the NFL still in twenty twenty five,
twenty twenty six and beyond.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Oh, I believe so because if you look at what
he's done on the defensive side for Andy, he's taken
half the team and he's gotten half the team to
believe in what they do and the way they do it.
And you see it every week. Every week he comes
up with something different. Every week, he puts something out
in front of the players, and the players buy into it.
Steve has learned. Sure, his first time as a head
coach wasn't very good, and it takes time, and he
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didn't get the opportunity to continue to build. It took
me three years before we started winning in Carolina. Steve
didn't get three years. Who knows what would have happened
if he had gotten enough time. And I believe with time,
given time, Steve Spagnola could be a very good head
coach in this league because he's one of the smartest
guys you'll ever be around. He's one of the most
committed coordinators I've ever seen, because the guy is brilliant.
He was one of those guys that when we all
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got together on Andy's original coaching staff, he said, Man,
this dude's something else.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
He goes, he goes, he works.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
He's one of those guys that learns from everybody, and
he's a veteran guy that knows the game better than
people understand. It's just he hasn't had the opportunity because
the last few years he's been too busy.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, too busy in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah exactly. That's how I feel about you this morning.
You're like, man, you're really bringing the heat today on
Jim at b ron We appreciate it. You're going to
come back later in the hour. Stay tuned. Coming off
the Steelers, we got to talk Pittsburgh. They have some
decisions to make at quarterback this offseason. Speaking of the
guy that went to a couple of Super Bowls with
Keith Carroll. There's Russell Wilson. Is he coming back for
another year? In Pittsburgh. We discuss this and other topics again,
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running a back with Ron River Kyle.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Plus, there is a game. It is now twelve days away.
We're fired up. Peter's going there for Fox. Peter the Fox.
Cover's gonna be excellent, Right, it's gonna be Taylor, Donna
and Me. Let's go Taylor Donna and Peter and oh
maybe Travis. Maybe Taylor Donna and PS and d i
Roll with Scott Swift. I like Taylor's dad. Yeah, right,
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dieheart fan. He's at everything. It's he good with Ed Kelsey,
they hang all right, Morgan Morning Football?
Speaker 5 (21:36):
After this?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
All right, we are two hundred and ninety seven hours
from the super Bowl in New Orleans, and there was
a vocal part of the population that was openly rooting
for maybe Buffalo or Washington to win, if only because
there'd be something fresh to talk about. Neither of those
teams won. So we are getting Kansas City and philadelphiagain.
Should be a great matchup. However, we've talked about these
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teams a lot and I'm not sure there's necessarily a
lot of fresh topics out there, and yet the segments
must be filled, my friends, So we thought we'd get
ahead of it a Good Morning Football, in fact, two
hundred ninety seven hours ahead, and say, right now, what
is the Super Bowl storyline that we are already all
set with and we really don't need much more? With Peter,
I feel like this is a beltigh fastball for you.
(22:21):
Where would you like to go the superstoryline? You are
good to go on, don't need anymore?
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Mine goes to July tenth, July eleventh, and I really
emptied the bag. Then when we had a show called
Hard Knocks in season off season with the New York Giants,
where we really had full documentation of the Giants telling
Sakuon Barkley, we're good, You're good. Let's just go our
separate ways. And then every week from that point on
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until this moment right here, we have mentioned on the
show that the Giants let go of say Kuon Barkley
for super Bowl Week. I am good with acknowledging that
the Giants did not resign say Kwon Barkley. I think
he's had an entire curse season that we could document.
I think that there's an amazing moments as an Eagle
we should be highlighting.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I also am not sure.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Sakuon Barkley runs for two thousand yards and it's in
a super Bowl if he's still with the Giants.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
We know it was a decision that was made.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
We have dissected it six thousand times before Super Bowl week.
I know we call them just casual fans and maybe
they don't know the story. And I'll give Brady and
Burkhart then, okay, in a pass if they want to
just present the storyline of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But for our show, if you're a twenty.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
Four hour a day football fan, I don't know if
we need to go back into Joe Shane's living room
and into that coach's office where they're discussing it. I'm good,
And I know if I'm Devin Singletary or Jermaine Lumineuur
or John Runyon who they spent the money on instead,
I think they're good also. So let's just be good
with Saquon Giants talk and maybe move on to Saquon
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Eagles talk.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I'm good. I like you here, I like it all right.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
So this is one that I am really passionate about.
I am absolutely tired of Patrick the Patrick Mahomes chasing
Tom Brady's storyline. Let's just get rid of it. Okay,
look what Patrick Mahomes has done. And first, let me
give credit to Tom Brady, because I think what Tom
Brady has done in his career speaks to his longevity
and his dedication and his greatness. But what Patrick Mahomes
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is doing is something very unique. He's in a class
of his own. We don't need to measure him to
Tom Brady anymore because he is doing something at a
very young age. He's on the cuss of doing a
three peat, a trilogy, three in a row that has
never been done in NFL history. Let's celebrate him for
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what he is and what he's accomplished in his short career.
Thus far, I say we need to redefine when it
comes to greatness. To me, I've always said that comparison
is the thief of all joy. And I go to
Bill Russell and Michael Jordan, Bill Russell eleven Championships and
we've said that this is the standard when you talk
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about NBA Championships eleven eleven, But somehow in recent conversations.
When whatever you ask who's the greatest of all time,
it's this man right here, Air Jordan, Michael Jordan. Michael
Jordan has six championships. He doesn't have eleven, he has six.
But because we've recognized the greatness in what he's done
in his timeframe, we call him the greatest. That we
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recognize what he's done, it's time to recognize what Patrick
Mahomes has done on his way to getting perhaps his
fourth championship.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Comparison is the Thief of all joys. It sounds like
something you would read in a self help book. I
personally despise self help books. Don't recommend them to me,
don't send them. This really helped me, I think, if
it helps you, we're two different people. Don't send him
my way. So when aj Brown showed up on the
bench that week with reading Inner Excellence, I was immediately
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over it. After I saw him doing it, Off Bar
showed up with the book. He's talked to the author.
I appreciate your dedication. This was an annoying prop thing
to me. If he reads it, great, if it helps
him awesome. Instead, what I would find even more fascinating
is if he read this book that I personally just
made up during a commercial break, and it's titled This
Outer Acceptance, How to Make Any Play that comes your
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way on the Road to a Super Bowl, written by
Kellen Moore AJ Brown, I would say, stop looking for
inner excellence and just catch the ball when it's thrown
to you and be happy with that. In the postgame
interview with Stacy Dill's the other day after the NFC Championship,
she asked him, were you searching for the inner excellence?
And he's like, yeah, I guess I always am, Like
I'm done talking about inter excellence, outer just outer accept
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the fact that you are going to New Orleans and
playing in a Super Bowl. I'm over this book. Makeup
for ten books. I don't care self help, Kyle, I'm
over this.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
It's another banger, Jamie. Just a great answer. I was
completely with you, and it's good luck keeping that out
of the storylines. Mine has been well established. If you've
been on the show, if you watch the show, you
know that I despise adult birthdays. I don't like adults
celebrating their birthdays. I don't like me celebrating my birthday.
I just once, if you're celebrating your birthday and talking
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about your birthday a lot. You were at the roller
rink with the other nine year old friends you have
from fourth grade. I just don't like it. I like
television segments about birthdays even less. I'm in the minority
in that. In this crowd, I just don't like unless
it's twenty one, thirty, forty fifty six, fine, these random
on forty three? Who cares? I hate it, And which
(27:20):
is why I'm incredibly chagrined to remind the public that
on February ninth, Super Bowl Sunday, it's Sakuon Barkley's birthday
and he turns twenty eight years old, and it is
just so irresistible to talk about the birthday. Boy gets
a touchdown. It's his birthday. It's his birthday, and I
wish it ended there and that would be enough. On
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February ninth, the Super Bowl Sunday, it's also Cooper de
Jean's birthday, who is turning twenty two. Now. If he
was turning twenty one, then we got something. You win
the Super Bowl, you can do twenty one shots and
puke and the gutter. That's great, guys. We have two
birthdays from the Eagles on Super Bowl Sunday. I wish
it'd stop there. There will be a reference with because
of Philadelphia too. It's always sunny Philadelphia on February ninth,
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Super Bowl Sunday. It's Charlie Day's birthday. I'm not making
this up. It's not Kind's birthday too. It's all coming together,
so much birthday talk, and I had to Google to
make sure it's not. It's not Burkhart or Brady's birthday
or Ea Ronald It's not, thank God. But I would
just ask all of them. I understand people love birthdays,
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and I'm a total curmudgeon when it comes to birthdays.
Can we keep it light? Can we just not go
a deep dive on it happens to be the same
day you were born, it's the Super Bowl. There's so
many more interesting things about Saquan Degen and Charlie Day
for that matter. And yet it's already become a monster online.
The tweets are already. I just bring them up. People
are just they're tweeting their backsides up. Cooper de Gene
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gets his first interception on his birthday in the Super Bowl.
That's from Uncle Vaughan, Uncle Vaughan respect this next tweet
for them to play the Soup Bowl on their birthdays.
That's definitely a good sign. Is it? Isn't that any
connected tessue whatsoever. If it was their birthday in August,
they're not going to win the game. And then the
best one, Look at this, they're Jersey numbers. Wait a second,
Super fifty nine, twenty six.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Plus, all right, I like that one.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
That's real the sign, The signs are there. So Peter
likes it, and most people do like birthdays. I'm not
telling you I'm not a jerk about this. I'm admitting it,
but I'm just over it. Once you turn twenty one,
no one cares about your birthday. And if you care
that much about your birthday, I promise the people around
you are pretending. So please, I'm already sick that it's
Sakwanda Jean's and Charlie Day's birthday. Let's send it there, please.
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And Kyle, where are you from?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
What You're from?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Chicago right morning? Raised in Chicago suburbs, Okay.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
And so you would appreciate this because the week after
the Super Bowl and after their birthday, it's your favorite
Michael Jordan's birthday February seventeenth, see another birthday.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
See I know you'd appreciate it. You appreciate my whole life.
He's the most famous athlete ever. I have no idea
when his birthday is. Who cares? You don't get me
start on Zodiac time. You can go down that thing too.
But that's the ugly, stupid cousin of birthdays. Thank god
we got that out of the way. You feel better, No,
I feel worse because I know it's inevitable. I'm trying
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to hold back the leaks and the damn it's not
gonna happen. It's gonna be the cake man's.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Face if he wins the Super Bowl. You like you
got another thing coming, all right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Gonna get frosting all of the Lombardi Trophy. They were
going to disrespect your de file, the sterling silver butter Cake.
Charlie Day, Happy birthday, every night. Enjoy buddy.
Speaker 8 (30:49):
Welcome back to Good Morning Football. You know we've got
Ron Rivera at the table. There's still so many questions
we want to ask Ron, and he's got so many
connections around the league and so much great experience. Ron
the first thing I have. We're here in New York
and this Jets process was length They said they were
going to uncover every stone. You were one of the
head coaching candidates they actually met with. Now that it's
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all said and done and Aaron Glenn has gotten the job,
can you take us inside the room and maybe for
Jets fans, tell us what they were asking you and
maybe what they were looking for in a head coach
through the questions that they asked during your interview.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
You know, probably the first and foremost thing was leadership.
What type of leader are you? How are you going
to lead this football team? I think that was one
of the things that they're looking for as a guy
to step up in front of everybody and be that leader.
And again, Aaron, I think is a terrific choice because
of the legacy thing as well. You know, he's a
big part of their history. He's been part of the history,
so he understands what it takes the dynamics of what
it takes to.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Be a New York Jet.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Secondly, I think one of the more important things also
is a guy that's going to be able to relate
and get the players to buy in. He's coming from
a process that he has gone through in Detroit and
when they were very successful. He's going to point to
that use that examples. So now what he's going to
probably do too is find a couple of guys from
Detroit that he could pluck, put them on the Jets roster,
(32:04):
and be able to have to those guys step up
and talk about who Aaron Glenn is as a coach,
but more importantly as a person, and how he's going
to relate to his team. And I think that's going
to be very very important as well.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
And coach, you've been in this position before, obviously coming
into this position, what would you say to Coach Glenn
and for all the other coaches too that are just
coming into this spot where sometimes it's very easy to
model what you've seen before that's had success and you
try to replicate it rather than being yourself. Like, how
does a coach come into his own without trying to
(32:35):
replicate what he'd seen before.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
That's a great question because what happens a lot of
guys try to become the guy that they were coaching for,
you know, and you can't be that guy because players
will feel it and they'll understand you're not being authentic.
If you replicate what's happened before, but you're authentic and
do it in your own way, have your own style,
it's going to be very successful. A great example of
guys that's done that and done it very well is
Sean McDermott up in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Sean learned from Andy. He learned from me, but Sean
took it and made it his own.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
That's important because the players feel it when you're really authentic,
and I think Erin Glynn's going to be very authentic
his first press conference, that was Aaron Glynn. That's what
the players need to understand. They're going to get that
guy every day for three hundred and sixty five days
during the season.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Or here I should say nothing. Coach. You mentioned Sean McDermott.
He's obviously coming off a very difficult defeat, another bitter
one to Kansas City. To Andy. There is a vocal
minority online that says maybe it's time to consider something
different at head coach. I personally don't agree with it,
but Andy's the perfect example. In Philadelphia, you tried, you tried,
you tried. Eventually they moved on. It was a better
(33:38):
fit for both of them. Take ye, your relationship from McDermott,
everything you know about him, What do you say in
response to that they can't get over the mountain and
he has this unbelievable talented quarterback. When you hear that
maybe it's time to at least consider a different head coach,
how do you feel? Well?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I feel bad about it, because again, the truth of
the matter is this is a player's game. What one spot,
one position. They've got to find this out him and
Brandon Bean, you got to get together and talk about
what's the one person, the one player, the one type
of player or position that we can We got to
find that'll take us to the next step. That's how
close they are. They are so close that you can
feel it that I really believe it's about finding the
(34:15):
one more right guy that fits for them and says, hey,
I'm here to help take us over to the top
less role.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I like jumping all around with you in the head
coaching topics. Do you find it as entertaining as we do?
Now that you look at the four head coaches in
the AFC West and the names that are in that room,
and the press conferences that we are going to see
from these guys and Pete Carroll Harbaugh, Sean Payton and
Andy Reid? Do you a find that entertaining? And b
if you are a coach in a division like that,
(34:42):
is there an extra juice went into looking at that
guy across the.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Sideline at you?
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Well, most certainly that really is extra juice. I mean
you think about who you're going to be competing against,
who you're going to be calling plays against, how you're
going to match up, and then you try to think, well,
what's he telling his guys? You know, what is he
doing that that that you know is going to try
and create that edge? So you really do think about
those things. I always used to say about Andy, because
you know, we all grew up around Andy, you know,
myself and Sean and John harbaumby all these I mean
(35:09):
on that original staff there were eight young guys that
all became head coaches in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
WOW.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
And I promise you every tib I used to coach
against Andy, I used to think he knows that I know,
So he knows that I know, He's going to do
something he doesn't think I know.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And you always try to figure out where he's going.
I mean, that's who Andy is.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I mean, he's trying to find that one little chink,
that one little thing that he can get and give
his team an edge.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Really quick. Ron and I love that. It's like a
game of game theory.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You're a former Bears legend, you work for the Bears.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
Obviously they hire Ben Johnson, and his opening press conference,
he mentions Dan Campbell by name, Kevin O'Connor by name,
and then out of nowhere, he says, and I can't
wait to be Matt Lafleur twice, as I've done before
in my career. He and Lafloor have no relationship prior
to that statement. What was your reaction to him calling
Lafleur out by name.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Let's go, baby, let's go. I'm a Chicago Bear. I
had an op opportunity when I played back in the
day to have a winning record. Okay, so I was
thirteen and five against the Packers as a Bear when
I played for the team back in the eighties. And
so anytime a head coach comes out and he challenges
green Bay, to me, that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
That's what you want.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
You want your guy to put it out there that,
hey man, we're coming after green Bay because for us.
That's the greatest natural rivalry in the NFL, and the
Bears and the Packers, and so to see a coach
that's confident that, hey, he's going to put it out there.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Now, he's got to live up.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
To it, a little bit of pressure on himself, but
I think he loves the pressure.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
What a phenomenal elbow that was to green Bay. I
had the opportunity to be thirteen and five against the
green Bay past, to have a winning record against the
green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Awesome, coach. We appreciate you so much.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
The most natural rivalry in the NFL exists between Chicago
green Bay.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well done, Gross,
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