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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome inside GMFP, everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'm Jamie her and I'll joined today here in La
by Mantiiteo and Isaac Rochelle. And in New York City
as always is Kyle Brand, who had a cracked knuckles
situation the other day when he saw something on the internet.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Kyle, what is it?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You know, like, it's when you just know you gotta
go to work, You gotta put your hard hat on,
and you got to pick up your sledgehammer. When I
see the NFL coaches photo come out, I start cracking
the neck. I start loosing up the hammies because I
gave everything I got analyzing the group of NFL head
coaches showing up in their best fashion. And we do
it every single year. It's coming up short that you
guys are gonna love it. Isaac Mantike, buckle.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Up, he trains all year Angry Runs, just do this.
That's actually what Anger Runs is.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Score.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's GMFP.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
It's happening right now, right.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Football, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
This is GMFB. Welcome inside, everybody, live in LA and
New York. You know the tush push has become the
thing that's absolutely split in the ballot box when it
comes to conversations this offseason for fans. Coaches and teams
are arguing with each other right now at the annual
league meeting, Kyle, something I think you should find interesting
is that while we have an on record quote from
Shane Steichen, the Colts head coach, saying that if the
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rule of the tush push should stay in it's quote
heck yeah, we don't get a lot of heck yeas.
And Dan Campbell supports it, but we don't have him
on record saying hell yeah, which you just kind of
assume that that's what that would go between the Colts
and the Lions. So a lot of other teams think
it's a player safety issue.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
This is what we're talking about. We're gonna hear.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
From Nick Sirianni. Kyle, you had that question, that request
in the first hour of GMFB, and it's happening now.
Nick Sirianni was asked he is the originator, the creator.
He has now created a divisive topic in the NFL,
and he has answers, any.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Have you been lobbying other coaches for.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, we'll see, We'll see. I think today we'll tell
tell a lot. I think, uh, you guys know my
opinion on it. I'm not going to continue to dive
into my My opinion is very well documented, and uh
I won't continue to dive into that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I think we would talk.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I think maybe that's why there's so many cameras here
today to talk about that. But I still stand where
where I where I stood, and uh, you know when
we talked at the at the combine and uh, we'll
see what. We'll see how it goes down. Have I
been lobbying, Uh, I've talked to a couple of people. Yeah,
but uh, we'll see how it goes to I know
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what the data says, and I know how we coach it.
And we don't coach a push play any different than
we coach a quarterback sneak play. So like you know
that if you know it's uh yeah again, the injury
data says what it says, and we coach at the
exact same whether somebody's pushing or whether somebody's not pushing.
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And I know that play has been I think somebody
said something about Bart Starr running the play a long
time ago, So that play has been in for a
very long time. There's probably a.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Lot of injury.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
There's probably enough data on that play to get information
from him.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That is the smirkiest of all smirks I've ever seen
on that man. He's just sitting around an answering questions.
He's got history on.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
His side, he's got a Littmbardi on his side, and
he's just got trophies and his little dimples, his nick Sirianni,
Kyle has to answer to, Oh, everyone else, got some
cameras around their table and we're talking tush push. Well,
let me share my thoughts, Kyle yours on Sirianni's comments.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
This is a fascinating topic in the place that we've
arrived here, and it's also so simple. If you were
a head coach in the NFC, wouldn't you want it banned?
You have to play the Eagles. I don't think it's
that complicated here. You think it's a surprise that this
came from the Packers who want to win a Super
Bowl some day through the NFC, or that Rahie Morris,
the Falcon's head coaches, coming out against it, or that
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Sean McVay who lost to the Eagles in the playoffs, says,
I don't like how it looks. It doesn't look like
football to me. It's maybe they like it, maybe they
want to run it themselves. They can't run it as
well as Philadelphia. No one can. And it's like, you know,
no one can beat Mike Tyson, so let's ban the uppercut. No,
you got to work out your own uppercut, or you
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got to work on your defense a little bit.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
It's you know.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I think the interesting one too, is that Sean McDermott
is coming out and there was these reports that there
was an animated discussion in Florida between McDermott and Roseman
and some of the Eagles coaches, and then McDermott come
that says, hell, first of all, we've known those guys
a long time. It wasn't animated, but we did have
a debate about it. So McDermott is kind of citing
these injury concerns. R I don't like putting players in
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this position, and it doesn't sit well with him. Then
he's asked, well, coach, you guys run your version of
it all the time. If it's not banned, will you
continue to run it though you're concerned He's like, oh yeah,
we'll continue to run it. I'm just like everybody wants
to run it, So don't you got to stop with
these flimsy, wispy injury concerns. The NFL, more than any
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time in its history, is all over the injury front.
I will say this again, and I want you guys
to listen. Why you guys, I mean, anyone looking to
ban this, don't show up to the tush push gunfight
with the pocket knife of injury concerns. Because if you
do ban the tush push, then instead of Jalen Hurts
pushing his way to the end zone, he's going to
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turn and hand it to Saquon who's going to run
a conventional running play with a leading head start, with
more impact, with more collision. The old fashioned running play
at the goal line has a higher injury risk than
the tush push. So get away from you with that.
If there's some other reason other than this nonsense obscure
doesn't look like football to me, it's because it's kicking
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your ass in football. It's why you don't like it
all I hear injury can It's nonsense, doesn't look like football,
Stupid desperate reaching what else is there. Until I hear something,
you better not vote against this thing. And if you do,
you're only doing it because you know you have to
go through the eagles, and they do it better than you.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
You talked about the pucket knife, you know, KB, and
you talk about dimples, Jamie. It reminded me of like
the Joker. He had that joker kind of smile on
his face and he sitting there like, so, what you're
gonna do about it?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So, if you've heard earlier in this show.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
I went on and on about this toush push, I
went on on how they shouldn't ban it. Isaac, you
haven't had the opportunity to talk about your thoughts on
the Toush Push. What do you think about the play?
Should it be banned? Should it not be banned?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (06:45):
First off, it's just kind of juicy, Like who would
have thought the juiciest topic from the owner's meeting would
be the toush push.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You know, it's crazy.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
It feels like some high school drama talk of the day,
but it is fun to talk about.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 9 (06:56):
I agree, Kyle, It's not a safety issue, Like, let's
just eliminate that from the conversation because it's there's way
more violent plays and at the end of day, football
is violent.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
This is what's crazy to me.
Speaker 9 (07:07):
All these coaches are talking about this as if they
can't run it, like it's like it's just a Philly
push and they're acting like Philly needs to stop doing this.
This is available to everybody. But here's my official opinion.
I do think this thing should be banned. And Kyle,
I know you said, who cares about the way it looks?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Now?
Speaker 9 (07:24):
This isn't even this doesn't this looks like rugby. I
don't like it for the game. I like the traditional
and the saquon let them score.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I like that.
Speaker 9 (07:31):
This to me is kind of just like mushball. I
don't know, but it's not a safety issue. It just
doesn't look good.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
But it's old school though, Like if you watch the
old school clips, it kind of looked like that it
was just all running the ball, leather boots, no face masks.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
So this is you.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
It's still football, though.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
The game evolves and to your point, you're saying that
a whole bunch of other teams have done it, but
they haven't done it at the success rate that the
Philadelphia Eagles have done it, and that's I think that's
what separates the Eagles from everybody else. And that's probably
a lot of the resistance that the Eagles are getting.
It's like, man, if you can't beat it, get it
out of the game. And so I see you on that, Isaac.
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I just think that one, it is a football play.
It's just a different kind of football play. It's more
old school. And two, yeah, you can't stop it, and
you also can't duplicate it. That Egles do it better
than anybody else.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Listen, I respect Isaac what you're saying, and I've heard
that opinion from different people. For me is it is
a callback to like how football was invented and conceived.
This is Princeton versus Rutgers back in the day. You
got your toughest guys, we got our toughest guys, and
let's see who's tougher. I like a little bit of
that amongst this modern game that's all passing in numbers
and statistics and stuff. What I would ask you is
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that if you don't like the optics of that play,
but you are right. Which is a conventional quarterback sneak,
which is a disgusting, ugly looking play where the quarterback
just falls on his face. Is it really that much
different to your senses or to your palette that he
has guys pushing him and it's more of like all
in on one struggle.
Speaker 9 (09:03):
Yes, absolutely, I think the quarterback snik looks a lot
different and we should just like look at the way
that we're talking about this when we're talking about a
football play and referencing leather helmets and boots, like I
feel like that's a telltale sign that this is not
you know, this is not modern day football. This is
a game of entertainment, and at the end of the day,
it doesn't look good.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
What I'm more fascinated by is the entertaining approach that
all the coaches have taken to talking about banning or
being in support of the tush push just to run
it down. And Kyle, I'm curious about your thoughts on this.
You have first time head coaches like Kellen Moore in
New Orleans having to answer this like, yes, welcome to
the league meeting for the first time, and you better
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come with a prepared statement about the tush push. And
he says, I'm very comfortable with the play. Well, yeah,
you just came from Philadelphia, so that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Then you have a very seasoned.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Head coach and Sean McVay saying I'd be surprised if
it's banned, which is not really a rams thought. It's
just like, I'm a politician and I know how this works.
Kyle has anyone's opinion on it? Jumped out to you,
and what do you think? It says not not only
maybe about the head coach, but the teams in general,
because everyone's got to take but the way they go
about it is what fascinates me.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, I mentioned McDermott. I think is very interesting because
the Bills ran their version of it a couple times
in the title game and were stopped. So anyone who
say it's an unstoppable play, that's nonsense and that's lazy.
The Chiefs scouted them up watch film, and they knew
exactly where Allen was going and stopped them. I think
it's the Kellen Moore thing is fascinating because you're like, well,
Kellen Moore can't be against it. Well, hold on a second,
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let's play some chess here. Kellen Moore is now a
head coach in the NFC. Right. Is his quarterback exactly
suited to be a great push pusher at the goal line?
Does that look like Jalen Hurts?
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Do you down there?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I don't think so. So that's where I come out.
I don't think any any of these coaches are going
to vote against it. I think they're so full of
crap when they're saying it's not football or it's an
injury risk. I think it's a risk that the Eagles
do it better than them. I think if the Eagles
head finished nine to eight last year and missed the playoffs,
we're not even talking about this. It's not even it's
the fact that they won the Super Bowl and they
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had success doing it, and now it's looked at is well,
the Eagles have a weapon of mass destruction and we
need to get rid of that. No, you're entitled to
do it yourself. Draft a quarterback who can do it well,
draft to center to copy them. Is this not a
copycat league? If they have an unstoppable play that helps
them win a Super Bowl, do it yourself. It's a free,
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open society. Go ahead. I think they're voting against it,
not because all that lies about injury risk nonsense. It's
because the Eagles do it so well and no one
can figure out what to do about it.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
We're going to check back in with the insiders today, who,
on a day of all days, April first, continuously fact
checking what they see on social media. So if you
need anything from these gentlemen, make sure it's them authenticated
and move forward with your day. Tom Pellisero, if I
wanted to know something that was in the rule change category,
can you give me an option and a conversation beyond
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the toush push and what is it?
Speaker 10 (12:02):
Well, certainly the tush push is the one that took
the four front of every conversation here and it's been
something that the coaches breakfast. Again, what's so interesting about
it is you've heard coaches for the most part, come
out strongly on one side or the other. There's not
a lot of political down the middle type stuff where
he Morriss said repeatedly he's against it, wants it out.
Matla Floor said it's not a football play, we want
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it out.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Obviously.
Speaker 10 (12:23):
Nick Siriani, among others, has said that they clearly want
to play to stay in the game. It does seem though,
like ian as this conversation has evolved, it has turned
more toward the injury side of things because this play
is not run enough to have any type of data,
much less the longitudinal data over years to tell you
whether or not it's dangerous. And what the owners the
membership have heard here from the NFL's Chief Medical Officer,
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Doctor Allen Sills, is the biomechanics, the force is all
there potentially for injury risks and the risk of serious
injury to developed down the line, which usually when that
starts to come into play, that.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Changes the conversation.
Speaker 11 (12:58):
Even without data, as you mentioned, there's just not enough
data to know how dangerous this play is. It does
seem to be the line of thinking is well, what
if right, And you don't want to legislate on what if,
But if you're talking about a potentially serious neck injury,
you're talking about it potentially season threatening, career threatening neck
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injury for a play, it's like, well, maybe just air
on the side of safety. And I think we all
came into this conversation around the time of the combine,
when it sort of became clear maybe this would become
a thing. It's like, well, here's not enough data, so
maybe eventually that just changed quickly. It has now gone
to yes. But what if there's a catastrophic injury. And
you're right, coaches were not down the middle. They were
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on one side of the other. And I've been interested
to see how freely my coaches have spoken they are
against it, they are really against it, and that they're
for it. I don't think they're onstand it either.
Speaker 12 (13:51):
They don't obviously, And you need nine votes. Now again,
it's not the coaches who are doing the voting, it's
the owners who are doing the voting.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Block nine to block.
Speaker 12 (14:00):
To block it, yeah, nine to make sure that the
play remains one that the Eagles and other teams can
still use. The Nick Sirianni Tree has been adamant that
they are in support of keeping it. That's Kellen Moore,
Jonathan Gannon, Shane Steichen as well.
Speaker 11 (14:17):
What Kyle was saying though, like if you're Kellen Moore
and are you sure you want to vote to keep
it knowing that it might be.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Used to eventually beat you or.
Speaker 12 (14:25):
It might be used to your advantage, because you know
the interest when you talk to these coaches.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
We did that earlier.
Speaker 12 (14:30):
Just talked to a couple of guys, say why do
the Eagles do it so well? And they say, well,
it's a commitment to the way that they do it,
and the fact that teams are like, well they're doing it,
let's try it. But they haven't really repped it as
much as the Eagles have repped it, so they have
that advantage in that regard.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So I know, we know how the Eagles feel. We
don't how people close to the Eagles feel.
Speaker 12 (14:49):
We know how the city of Philadelphia feels.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
We're gonna find out today now.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Now.
Speaker 12 (14:53):
The other possibility is that this could get pushed to
the league meeting in May, when Tom will be hosting
in Minnesota. So we could push the Tush push to
the next meeting.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
We've pushed enough, Tush.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Let's talk about a the other rule changes.
Speaker 11 (15:05):
Could we pretended we're going to call it the Brotherly
Shove and nobody calls it that ever.
Speaker 10 (15:08):
Because that's a long winded name. It's a long walk
for a short beer. We've obviously got a potential modification
again to the kickoff.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Do sound like that has momentum.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's always been part of the plan here.
Speaker 10 (15:18):
To encourage Hey, we saw the injury data.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It was down in terms of the rate of injury.
Speaker 10 (15:22):
Now, let's see if we have more of those plays,
if that trend continues here.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
There's also some.
Speaker 10 (15:27):
Non rule stuff here that's been part of the conversation.
Mike concluding about Brock party a new contract with the
forty nine ers, and you had a chance to catch
up with their owner.
Speaker 12 (15:34):
I did, owner Jed York just a short while ago,
has spoke to him. He said that they are close,
and now close is relative, obviously. He also said it
shouldn't take that long to get the deal done. It shouldn't,
and it wouldn't if you had the understanding of where
those numbers should be.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
For Brock Purty.
Speaker 12 (15:50):
I know a lot of people are going to look
at it and say, this guy was the last pick
in the drift. He was only making whatever last year.
He shouldn't be anywhere near Dak Prescott at the top
at sixty. Look, that's how these things kind of work,
right when it's time for a quarterback to do it deal,
there's no in between for the most part. And this
is a guy who York did tell me that they
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had a conversation in the middle of last year around
their bye week where they said, okay, we're going to
commit to Brock because everybody good and everybody on the
same page. So they made that decision last year that
he was going to be here for the long term.
You know what that means. You know what the number is,
Even if it's on the low end of the scale,
it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's going to force you.
Speaker 12 (16:28):
To make tough decisions, which is why they've had to
make tough decisions this offseason. But he remains confident in
John Lynch to make the right decisions for this roster.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
All right, gentlemen, thank you, We appreciated you.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Now thirty seconds.
Speaker 10 (16:39):
Well, I know I thought you usually want to you
want to get something, you go to your southern wedding.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
They cut us off.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's a nice khaki soo you got on rapsheet. I
like it. Well done.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Tom pellisera who apparently is first seeing the next league
meeting in Minnesota, party of Tom Peace House.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Aaron Rodgers was spotted throwing to DK Metcalf at UCLA
over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
There was footage. We can't show it, but.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I promised you it existed and it was professionally. It
was a lovely photoshoot of them throwing. It really happened.
Aaron Rodgers, who looks great, looks healthy, he looks capable
of throwing to DK Metcalf in a real, live football situation,
perhaps all wearing Steelers colors. Isaac, what do you make
of this footage that exists?
Speaker 9 (17:18):
Why is everything with Aaron Rodgers so cryptic?
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Why is it just like.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Lost very obvious?
Speaker 9 (17:23):
Actually well yeah, but again there's always some mystery, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
It's just classic Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
I like it, though, I mean, I've thought that Aaron
Rodgers in a Steelers' uniform, wearing that black and yellow
made a lot of sense. Obviously, he's gonna want he's
gonna want his toy Dk Metcalf, he wants his target.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
He's had that his.
Speaker 9 (17:41):
Whole career, in every successful environment, he's had his guy.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So it makes sense.
Speaker 9 (17:46):
But again, it's just classic Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
May thorough. Yeah. So we got photos and footage and
then it's like disavowed and taken down. And then we
at the media group reached out to the person who
captured us, Hey can we use this, and we're told no.
So that's a lot of cover up and being worse
than the crime. Which means that someone maybe to one
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of their two people in the pictures, or both of
them said no, don't put that out there, or the
Steelers did, or this is so. What I might take
away from this is Rogers going to be a Steeler.
Rogers is going to be a Steeler, and he wants
to control the message, and the Steelers do. And Tomlin's
down there in Florida, you know, sweating his butt off
and asked fifty questions about Rogers, and Rogers meanwhile is
throwing with Tomlin's new wide receiver. Don't tell me it's
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a coincidence. There's a lot of NFL players who spend
the offseason in southern California. He could get together with
any of them if he just wants to get a
work out in. He's throwing with his new wide receiver.
I just wish George Pickens was there too. I think
in the coming days we will find out this is
going to happen. I think it was ripped down, burned,
torn up anything because they want to control the message,
and this was basically a premature announcement.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Huh okay to Kyle's point, and I think that's an
important clarification this while we are not permitted to be
showing this footage.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
These two weren't like. It wasn't through the bushes.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Someone wasn't like, wait, let me move this branch out
of the way so I can take this phot This
was a professionally stage. Like the two of them have
their arms around each other. They knew there was a
camera there, There was a man behind a pressing the button.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
So how is it that this thing happened?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And then after the fact, as if they didn't think
that this the entire football world, would you know, panic
over this situation that they now they're like, no, no,
we don't.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Want to show it.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
It's a strange revelation and intern of events for just
the production.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Of the content.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
It's also strangers. I don't ever remember Aaron Rodgers throwing
to any receivers in the offseason, specific receivers like we
heard Tom Brady doing it, Drew Brees did it a
lot in San Diego. Russell Wilson would fly his receivers out.
I've never seen the story where Aaron Rodgers has flown
DeVante Adams out or seen clips of them throwing in
the offseason.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So this was a chess move.
Speaker 12 (19:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
In my opinion, for Aaron Rodgers, I'm saying, Okay, Steelers,
I'm doing this.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Let's make this happen.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
All right, we are twenty three days until the draft
in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and you will hear our next
guest name certainly called. We're going to welcome in a
two time I'm national champion from the Georgia Bulldogs defense.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
It's a linebacker. Smile, London Junior. What's up?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Smiles, bro, We're great.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Good morning to you. Smile. How's your body? How you feeling?
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Great. We love to hear it.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So this draft prospect process, it's new to you, your
first time through it, your only time through it.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
How's it going?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
What inside secrets can you tell us about any of
the visits or just how your prep is going.
Speaker 13 (20:32):
I don't really no inside secrets for real, but it's
been going good though.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
It's been going good for sure.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Let's talk about linebackers a little bit. I know that
you know over there at Georgia, you guys had a
lot of the linebackers. Jalen Walker, you and him played
all over the field. You played that and a week
side backer and even Nickel tell me smile. What is
your favorite position to play on the football field?
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Favorite position? Probably I don't know.
Speaker 13 (20:58):
It's kind of hard to say, because like the way
Georgia is, you're gonna make plays like everywhere on the field,
So just like wherever.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Really.
Speaker 9 (21:05):
Smile, I'm hearing You're just a playmaker. Put me anywhere
and I'm gonna do my thing. Also, I am from Georgia.
I'm a fellow Georgia boys, So I'm excited to chat
with you.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Man.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
Si and I both went through this combine, all these things,
all these processes that happened when you're about to get drafted.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
It's stressful. I was stressed the entire time.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
Walk me through a moment that you had where you
were like, wow, I feel like I'm under the fire
right now.
Speaker 13 (21:29):
Probably like my first my first former interview whenever I
got to the combine at Indy, and that was probably
like the time I thought the whole process while I
was really out there, like breathing fast like before I
went in there. So that was like the one time
I had to like kind of calm down. But like
the rest of it has been pretty smooth though. But
like my first former interview was like probably the most nervous.
I was like the whole process.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Any interesting questions that they asked you, by the way.
Speaker 13 (21:52):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Nothing like crazy.
Speaker 13 (21:54):
For I thought it would be like that because that's
all I heard going into.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Well, we'll handle that. We can ask you some fun stuff. Smile.
Everybody in the NFL is talking about the push push
right now, the Eagles and the toush push at the
goal line. There's a certainty really when you get into
the league as a linebacker, you're going to have to
stop it, whether it's the Eagles or somebody else. As
a defensive guy, what do you think of that play?
Speaker 13 (22:18):
I mean, I don't see nothing wrong with it, though
I see like folks want to get it banned, but.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
I already don't see nothing wrong with it. I feel
like it's a.
Speaker 13 (22:23):
Part of football, like one man got to move another man.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
So I don't see too much wrong with it.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
I'm man, I'm so glad KB brought up the Eagles
because the Eagles got a lot of Georgia defenders on
that team, right, and I know there's a lot of
Georgia defenders in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
As a whole.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
I played with Rokwan Smith when I was in Chicago
with him. Has any of these guys smile reached out
to you giving you any type of advice? And what
would that be?
Speaker 13 (22:46):
Yeah, for sure, Like I taught the as far as
like the Eagles, I saw the Noland a lot and
then I taked Nakobe a lot, and they really just
gave me advice, like you where your feet on?
Speaker 6 (22:54):
I don only try to look too far ahead and
then quay.
Speaker 13 (22:56):
You should tell me that a lot too quay for
the for the Green Bay Packers, So like I.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Look at them a lot for advice. I thought the
whole process. So it's been good for real smile.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
When you read about your Welcome to the college football
game in the NFL, it says that back in high
school you played a ton of positions quarterback, running back,
wide receiver, linebacker. A lot of people are talking about
Travis Hunter and him playing two ways in the NFL.
Is this something that you think as a player a
guy is able to accomplish or do you think once
you get to this level it is way too challenging
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and you got to focus on one thing.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
No, I mean, I I don't see why he can't
do it.
Speaker 13 (23:31):
I ain't gonna say nobody can't do anything for I
feel like he at least there is the opportunity to
do it since he did it.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
So good in college.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Absolutely. All right, so really cool story.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
The other part of your background is that both your
parents came to the US from Africa.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Will you tell us the story a part of it?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
And what is a moment that you think you will
look back on with your parents once you do hear
your name and you cross that stage and enter the NFL.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (23:55):
So they moved from West Africa to New York like
in the late eighties, so.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
That was like a ways before I was born.
Speaker 13 (24:02):
But as father like a story, I only got like
any like crazy story for real regarding that. Then they
stayed in New York and they moved down to Georgia
a little bit after. So my sibling was born in
New York, but I was born in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Okay. And where will you guys be on draft night
Draft weekend?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Uh?
Speaker 13 (24:17):
Probably somewhere in Georgia, whether it's like Dallas or Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
I already like figure that out yet.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
All Right, Well, congratulations, smile.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
We really appreciate it's awesome to get to know your
good luck down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Stay healthy. We can't wait to hear Smile London's name.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Every single year we wait for this, We wait and
it is back. Bring it up, guys, it's that time
of year again. This is a pre photo pump. You
cannot tell me it's not. He got down, he did
the close script. He did like the diamond push ups
right down there before he came out.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
I do it before every second. I don't blame you
at all. I just got back to the Banana Republic outlet.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I'm looking good. I'm Jack Shanahan's still in a tr
It's from the super Bowl. The floor looks great, this
is great.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
I love these guys.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I know that you are assembling weapons. I don't know
if we need to add a tank.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
So those weapons.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Okay, this looks like cell phone bars like you got
strong going.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
On down here.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
You know what it feels like when they say all right,
everybody says cheez. Nobody says cheese. He says cheese.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
He said geez.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
It's here, guys, it's here. It has dropped. I call
it the super Bowl of Spring. The NFL coaches photo
and usually usually it's a mess. Normally I have to
put on my welder's mask and just go to work
hacking away at this thing. Can I tell you something,
You know how it looks this year? It looks pretty good.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Bring it up. It looks pretty damn good.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
This is the best picture that the coaches have ever taken.
There are no lanyards, there's no sun in their eyes.
They don't all look like they're being melted by a
kid with magnifying glass. I'm proud. I actually think I
might have had something to do with this. In fact,
I know I had something to do with it. They're
down in Florida. They moved him indoors. You got the
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background there, and they're all lined.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Up in a row again, looking pretty good. Boys.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Let's go. You know who looks sharp as a razor.
Let's jump in.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
You know who's bat lead off today?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Dave Canalis, Yes, Sir, Dave Canalis in a crisp Chris
fitted crew neck.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Oh yes, you know he's nipping out a little bit,
but it's.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Working for him. I see canals at the hotel and
I think two words, fitness center. And he's doing all
this like a burpees and planking and all that plio
and heavy elliptical DC.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Keep pounding, baby, you are doing it.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Enjoy that post workout steam and sauna because you are
looking crispy today.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Moving right along to a fan favorite.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You want to talk about fitness. Bring him up, Bring
him up, Bring him up for track two.
Speaker 14 (27:11):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Dan Campbell, Guys, this is the ideal male form. You
may not like it, but that is it. Did Dan
get even huger in the offseason. He looks like Steve Latimer.
When Latimer says I put on about thirty pounds of
muscle this summer. He looks great. But don't make no mistake.
Dan Campbell in that tight polo was not at the
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fitness center because a they won't let him play his
ride the Lightning on a Bluetooth speaker, and b the
kettlebells on the Hotel fitness center not big enough. They
only go up to eighty. Campbell has to go to
his Dodge Ram that he rented in Florida and drive
off property to look for like a gold gym somewhere.
I don't know where the hell they find one, but
he will get their del Ray Beach. Campbell looks like
(27:55):
a tank and here's what's fascinating. Pull back a little bit.
I love the proximity in the photos. Aside from the fashion,
I want to see who's sitting next to bring up
the next slide. Look how interesting this is Campbell back
row center. Bring it up, zoom on in. Look at
those two guys way over in left field. Now that's
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his crew. Those are his Lion's assistants, who a sat
right next to each other in some nice pressed khakis.
I like how both Glenn and Johnson showed up. But
I do think it's interesting that there are at least
ten coaches away from their former head coach, because sometimes
the squads rolled together Johnson and Gunn, I wish I
(28:40):
had some sort of skewering to do for you as
first year head coaches. There's some other first year guys.
We'll get to You. Guys are clean.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Though, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Mike McDonald's like, what should I wear? How about just
a plain ass white T shirts? This was like out
of it a fruit of the loom three pack. It's
not even a stylish V neck. It is a rounded
white T shirt. This like it's third and fifteen. What
should we do? Just run the draw play for six
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yards in punt. It's not gonna lose you the game,
but it's certainly not gonna win you the game. Although
I do think he probably has similar fashion sense with
Sam Darnold. Low low, low maintenance McDonald. You didn't mess
it up, but you didn't take any shots. Let's go
to someone else who's taking a lot of shots. This one.
This is the Dad and the Family Picture Award. Guys,
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look at Brian Callahan. Oh my god, this sucks. I
feel for this guy. He's surrounded by over thirty of
his peers in his first group picture, and he's staring
off into the distance. The Dad and the Family Picture
Award goes like this typically on the family holiday card.
The dad looks terrible because, at least in my family,
the mom is the one picking it out, so it's
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the best picture of her. It's the best picture of
the kids, the best picture that I'm dog. But the
dad's sitting there basically picking his nose and looking like
he's got all some kind of quasi moto thing going.
Callahan got screwed here. Everybody in him is completely locked in.
He's looking off in the distance. But you know what,
I think he's like, Guys, I'm not looking the distance.
I'm looking into the future. I'm on the clock. I
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don't know about all you guys, but I'm on the clock,
and I'm thinking about cam Ward and all the other
guys I'm going to bring in to dominate for me.
So I give him a pass. And I like the
quarter zip and I like the full sleeve. Next, let's
go to our most Improved Award. This is a friend
of the show. I'm so proud to give this away.
I'm very happy for this man. Sean mcdee. Sean mcdee
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with the perfect jeans, He's got the Jordan Lowe's a
nice tasteful collared shirt with the buttons that show. And
you might think, what's the big deal everyone wears Jordan's
like he just looks like a dad, but he doesn't
look like a child going to his piano recital. Because
there was a time in this segment when Sean McDermott
not only wore a certain outfit, he wore the same
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outfit two years in a row.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Bring it up. I'm not kidding. He had his the same.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Outfit, the same shirt, the same blazer, the same pose.
And it's like, show are you going to your your
first communion at church. Like, that's not you. This guy
is him, and I love that Sewn has grown up
and he's secure and maybe the kids are helping him
a little bit. By far, the most improved is Sean McDermott.
Now to go with what Works award.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
This guy's becoming a fixture in the segment of all people.
Shonathan Gannon go down to JG in the bottom left corner.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
He knows what he likes. He likes a tight.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Fitting polo into the khakis and check out JG's stutting
on him with the sockless loafers. Gannon, you dog, I
like it. That is a cool look. He has worn
the same outfit pretty much every time, tight polo, sockless loafers.
I like that he goes, but he's looking at He's like, listen,
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I doubled our wind total this year.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
What did you guys do?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I'll wear whatever the hell I want and I'll be
back next year. How about this guy you know who
does whatever he wants. I call this guy the disruptor.
How about Wiley Old Pete been away from the game
a while, and where does Pete Carroll park? Himself when
he shows up for his first group photo in a
long time.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Check this piece of real estate out that Pete chose.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Bam splitting between the harpbaws. That's a power move, Pete.
Right there, you got the harbuss who by the way,
last year the harbass set right next to each other
like cute little twins with matching sweaters with their first
initial line it and Pete, they would probably go to piece.
Oh the seat taking boys boom and he sits down
right down next to his old alleged nemesis and Jim
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on the right, what's your deal? And then John on
the left. Pete, this is a statement. It's a power move.
You have a little bit of an ankle spread too,
like claiming some territory. The outfit. Never mind the quizzical look,
never mind. Pete's a made guy. And I love that
he separated the hardbass. It's sending a message. It's telling
I'm here to make a difference, and he's in Jim's division.
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We're gonna look back on this photo when the Raiders
played the Chargers and we're gonna say this is where
it started. Next, this is the guy. Some people are
just for.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
The brand, morning, noon, and night.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
There is exactly one coach who wore team gear in
this photo and is a coach I stand with. Give
me Brian Daball, get in there with the Giants logo.
Everybody in that stage has fifty thousand different garments with
the team logo on it. One man decided to wear it,
not to wear it, nay, to represent it. And it's
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a time when the Giants would taking a lot of crap.
And Brian says, see that logo that says New York.
I believe in this. He's basically wearing it to say
I'm wearing it to be a New York Giant. He
won and I don't know this for sure. He has
a New York Giants Duffel bag that he brought on
the trip. He has a Giant's toiletry kit, He has
a Giant's keychain, He has Giants wallpaper on his phone
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where his password is g Men nineteen seventy five. Love him,
Hate him. Brian Daball is in on the New York Giants.
Lot of people are out. That's when you double down
and wear it, and I absolutely love that he did that.
Let's get to basically our best Picture. You want to
know who gets best dressed. A guy who's a founding
father of this segment, who I used to just destroy
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in the segment, Sean mcvagh best dressed. I'm so happy
we've come such a long way. This is like going
from off Broadway theater to winning the Actor for Best Picture,
Best Performer. Shawn's got a tasteful jacket over an off
tone shirt, perfect jeans, clean Chris sneakers, and Sean.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
We know for a fact that when you sat.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Down, you did one of these with the arm so
you could show off the watch or excuse me, the
time piece. For people who are wealthy like you, you showed
off the time piece perfectly. Because it's like he's come
up in the world. Let's look back at Sean. When
he first came in, Sean was beating some teams in
the league, but what he was really putting a beat
down on was the Banana Republic. Look at him down
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there with the pipes out, wearing the same damn outfit
at everybody around him. Sean usually shows up like that.
I feel like maybe it was him, or maybe it
was Veronica. They passed the Banana Republic man Jay Crew.
Maybe a little Bonobos or Veronica took him to the
Nordstrom off the one on one in the Valley. New
Sean McVay looks great. I love it. But let's get
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to the main events.
Speaker 14 (35:22):
Let's get to the biggest star in the room, Nicholas
John Sirianni setting up shop right next to Andy doing
whatever the bleep he wants.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Don't tell me, don's don't wear shorts.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
This one does all right. You guys know that guy
who wears the Hawaiian shirt to the picture every single year,
the guy who I'm sitting right next to. I was
beating him thirty four nothing in the Super Bowl. I'll
wear my Nike shirt out of the hamper. I'll wear
my khaki shorts and my dirty sneakers.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
I don't give a damn. You're lucky. I even wore
a shirt.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
This is my league now. I was going to show
up and just my underwear in the Super Bowl ring,
but they won't give me the ring yet. My take
on Sirianni, I love this outfit so much. It's a
power move, and it's I won the Super Bowl move.
My take is this photo should be like the Master's dinner.
If you win it all. You choose the menu, you
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choose the wardrobe. It's not why is Sarianni not wearing pants?
Is why is every other coach not wearing shorts? That's
your super Bowl champion, you know that, the hutspa, the onions,
the pair. You have to to sit next to Andy
in that picture and dress like that. You beat Andy
in the Super Bowl and wear whatever the hell you want,
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Nick Sirianni. People are saying you're the worst dressed person
in this picture. Not me. I think you won the picture.
We'll see in the Super Bowl next year. Maybe we'll
see you in the photo breakdown next year. For damn sure,
until they let me go to the annual meeting and
do red carpet arrivals that I'm still pushing for. See
you next year.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
It's more floral carpet arrival for Kyle Brand. Very well done,
my friend. The Sirianni flex two thoughts. The Syrianni flex
of the baseball cap at the shoes, I think is
a key part of that series. He just sets it
on the ground like he was doing twenty seven other things,
addressing the tush push, dealing with all the coordinators that left,
and he's like, oh, now is the time for me
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to sit there, take a quick snooze during the coaches photo,
put my hat at my feet, and then he is
the first one out of his chair to go address
the media. Nick Sirianni, I appreciate you so much, Vanta,
I know you like that.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
Fuck yeah, bring that photo back up, you know. Then
Nick Sirianni photo looks like it looks like that that
sea section people on Southwest that they come on the
sea board groups see and they're the guys that the
aisle and the window seat got taken up and they're like,
hey can I sit there? And they got to sit
like this the entire flight. Yeah, that's what That's what
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Nick Sirianni looks like to me. He's a guy on
Southwest that's just squeezing in between in between two people
because they loved it as.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Uncomfortable as the people who have sea sections.
Speaker 9 (38:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like literally, my wife just had a
C section, so my mind's in a weird place. I
just wanted to zoom in on Liam Cohen. I just
want to slow zoom in and hear him saying duvall
yeah yeah, yeah, unreal presentation O Kyle and look, Nick,
Nick Sirianni, he's the go just because of his outfit.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Real quick, Kyle knowing one time I was in a
boarding an actual boarding area before a flight with Brian Dable.
I don't think that man wants to talk to many
people on the board. But when you wear the logo,
you're inviting people to talk to you, Kyle, And that's
what concerns me. When you wear the team branded stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
No, I like it because a lot of people would
run from the Giants. Talk right now, he says, bring it,
damn right. I'm the head coach of New York Giants.
You want to talk about it, Let's talk. Russell Wilson.
I got plans for this team, and our plans, as always,
will be next year when we revisit this and Nick
Sirianni Toush pushes into an old Navy