February 25, 2025 • 34 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Peter Schrager, Manti Te'o, and Cody Kessler sharing players that have caught their eye ahead of the NFL combine. Cody Kessler examines the top QB prospects in the upcoming NFL Draft. Later, Manti selects his top-3 USC players he watched growing up and Cody picks his top-3 Notre Dame players.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
All right, fine, we'll do it.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Welcome INSI Good Morning Football live in La New York
and Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Today.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It's Tuesday, February twenty fifth. I'm Jamie Ertall. Here's mantay Toe.
Peter Schrager packing his bag. He's probably got his rollie
with him in the studio there. He is headed to
the Combine today and we'll see him from Indianapolis the
rest of the week. And of course, Cody Kessler back
in the hot seat. You former USC quarterback drafted by
the Cleveland Browns. How's life? How are you quarterbacking the
show right now?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
It's been a lot of fun. I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
Day one was awesome. Day two I feel a little
more settled in right. It's like yesterday was the first
day school. Yeah, and I got my outfit picked out.
Everything was good. Now the second day, I'm making some friends.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm getting comfortable.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
But now I love talking football, so I could do.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
It forever, right, shregs. Welcome to the lunch table.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, I love being here.
Speaker 7 (01:06):
Cody, You've been awesome. Manti of course you've been fantastic. Yesterday,
Cody Kessler showed us his combine footage where he had
these lime green fluorescent shoes that he was throwing in
baggy shorts, big baggy shirt, just throwing dimes and dots
all over the field. Cody, where are those lime green
shoes that you wore at the combine in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Shregs, You're gonna love this.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
So not only do I have lime green, I have
like a hot orange type color undramer ones. I have
some other So when you're going through the combine, Mantile.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Will tell you.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
They just start sending you stuff right when you're training
at a different place for whatever reason. When I was coming
out of college, and it was right around twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen, Neon was the vibe. Everyone was doing Neon.
So the green plates to orange. We had hot pink.
We had a yellow, like a highlighter yellow.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
So you let me know, Shregs, what you want.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
I'm a size fourteen, so I'm a little bigger than
the twelve.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
We can make it work.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Just put a couple pairs of socks on and you
can fit right in them.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I love it, dude.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
We always want to be able to find Peter in
a crowd and with me, choose that will do it.
Let's go to Indianapolis. We saw some of that vintage
footage from Manti and Cody yesterday. But guys are trying
to make a name for themselves this week ahead of
the NFL scouting combine. Those are the tight ends they
are beginning to report as well. On the right side,
you are seeing tight end number fifteen. That is Colston
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Loveland out of Michigan. He is Peter Scheger's number nine
on his top ten list. We revealed six through ten
last hour, and we will be waiting on baited breath
for five through one tomorrow Tom Pellasero. Until then, let's
check in on some of the big names that may
or may not be participating. Can we start in the
Big ten with the Penn State star Abdul Carter and
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how his shoulder injury might be affecting his combine training.
Speaker 8 (02:50):
Jamie Abdul Carter is not going to be participating here
at the combine. Doctor Daniel Cooper, who's a noted medical expert,
examined his shoulder that he injured back in the Boise
State game. Recently, Cooper sate letter to team saying he
will be cleared in time to participate in Penn State's
pro day at the end of March, but not going
to be out there this week at the Combine. Now,
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that's not entirely unusual either for top prospects to not
to end up participating in the on field drills here
in Indianapolis. Another one that you can add to the list,
Ashton Genty, the Boise State running back. He's also going
to wait for his pro day. Shador Sanders of course
opted out of participating here in the Combine. But we've
got a lot of the other top prospects that are
going to be out here. Will Campbell, Can I interest
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you in an offensive lineman who's going to put up
really cool numbers?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
He's going to be out here.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
There's going to be a three hundred plus prospects all
working out. It all begins on Thursday, right here on
NFL Network.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Jamie, All right, Tom, what about the quarterbacks? I feel
like we can't have a conversation between you and I
without saying somebody's name that throws a football on what
we care about this weekend? So those guys work out
on Saturday. Any enlightening information you want to share with
us just right now?
Speaker 8 (03:58):
Well, Jamie the top quarterback prospect for a lot of people.
Miami's cam Ward is undecided. I am told participating here
at the scouting combine. He has been doing combine type workouts.
He's been preparing as if he is going to go
through a throwing session, but still deciding exactly what he
intends to do this week. Quarterbacks are arriving in town today,
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so I would anticipate those decisions are going to be
made relatively soon. As for the rest of the quarterbacks
other than Shador Sanders, I anticipate all of them throwing
out here this week. That includes Texas when yours, who
was beat up last season he had a tornal bleak
initially separate.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
In the Michigan game.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Dealt with that more or less the entire season. He
is healthy now and told he's up to about two
hundred and fifteen pounds. He's been watching tape with Mike
McCarthy this week preparing for his interviews at the combine.
McCarthy had nothing but good things to say about twin yours,
who's going to get his opportunity to show should he
be QB three? Could he even be QB two? The
lot on the line here in Indianapolis. Jackson Dart is
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also going to throw here at the combine. Riley Leonard
from Notre Dame is going to be a participant. Jalen
Milroe from Alabama. A lot of big names college football
that you watched on Saturdays getting their opportunities show they
belong on Sundays. All starts here in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Jam Tom, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Next segment on GMTP, Cody Kessler, whether or not they
are participating in the combine. He's going to break down
some of those quarterbacks that Tom just named, So stay
tuned on GMTP until then. Let's stick with the offensive
side of the ball. We're going to have some names
that we're going to throw at the board, Peter, pick
a quarterback, pick a running back. Let's go around the
table and just kick around some of these names, Peter,
that you are hearing about and you want to enlighten
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people on I want.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
To talk Jackson Dart. Hey, he's got a very cool name,
Jackson Dart. His brother's name is Diesel Dart, so I
think that's one of the two coolest names you can imagine.
But Jackson darts story is interesting. He was the National
Gatorade Player of the Year coming out of high school,
and he committed to USC, played a year at USC,
and then he transferred to Ole Miss, where for the
past three seasons he's been their primary starter and has
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been electric. In the last two years they went eleven
and two and ten and three, and Jackson Dart was
the starting quarterback and a loaded SEC. And this guy
put up huge, huge numbers four two and seventy nine
yards this year. Twenty nine touchdowns, just six interceptions. You're
talking about forty two hundred yards through the air, passes
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like that, thrown off the back foot, and he's got
the bill. This is a six foot two quarterback. He's
got the size. I have long been a Jackson Dart fan.
I remember when he was coming out of high school,
so I've always been charting his career. And you talk
about ward and Sanders as like one to two and
then this big drapa.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I don't see it that way.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
It could be Warden Sanders and Dark could be your
third first round quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I am a Jackson Dart fan.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
And I love the fact that he went to the
Senior Bowl, competed at the Senior Bowl, and is now
at the Combine. Is competing at the Combine. A similar
guy like that last year was Bo Nix, who had
this great college career, was overlooked in the whole pre
draft process going in. Then he's like, you know what,
I'm gonna do the Senior Bowl, I'm gonna do the Combine.
I'm gonna excel, and I'm gonna meet with these teams
and they might like what they see. Jackson Dart has
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been a five star recruit every day of his life
and has been that guy at every.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Program he's been at.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Why now as he suddenly being overlooked and not considered
a first round pick, We'll see if he could change
that narrative. As for running back, it's a totally different
story from me, I go to running back.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I'm going to the University of Iowa, and I'm going.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
With Caleb Johnson, the running back who didn't really get
an opportunity to be a star until this year.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Caleb Johnson gets on the field, that's.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Basically a first year starter this year, and he comes
out there and he runs for more than fifteen hundred yards.
He is on a list of very few players in
the Big Ten who have had fifteen hundred yards and
the touchdowns that he had in the Big Ten twenty
one rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
That list is Jonathan Taylor, JK.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Dobbins, and Ezekiel Elliott, those guys who went second round,
second round, first round. Now, I know this is not
the same type of prospect as Jenty out of Boise State,
or Hampton out of North Carolina, or even the two
Ohio State running backs right now, but just watch this.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Watch out this guy stock rises. I think we will
relate to.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Him because he wasn't a big name going into this season.
But I think Caleb Johnson at his size two hundred
and twenty pounds.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Six feet like a big running back who can carry
the rock.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
I wouldn't be shocked if Caleb Johnson leaps up those
running back lists and is suddenly the third fourth running
back taken after some of the bigger name guys. Big
Caleb Johnson fan Big Jackson Dart fan. And they will
both be out there this weekend competing, which is something
I really like to see.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Like Jamie mentioned, I'll talk a little more quarterbacks later
on in the show. But the guy that I'm going
with in this segment is quarterback Dylan Gabriel from Oregon.
I just I think he's a very good quarterback. He
gets overlooked as well, kind of in that Jackson Dark category.
For me, Gabriel is at his best when he can
sit in the pocket, when he can go through progression,
when he can go one, two to three to four,
throw the football way if it's not there, or find
his checkdown.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
That's when he's his most comfortable.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Right He's very accurate with the football two percent completions
percentage a year ago at Oregon in the Big Ten,
a lot of very good defenses, a lot of very
good pass rushers in that conference.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
So he did a great job there. But this is
where he's going to.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Excel in the combine because he's going to be out
there maybe some lime green creek please, we'll see, but
he's going to be in shorts and a T shirt
and he's throwing routes on their right. That's where he
can go out there and show off his accuracy. But
what I want to see from him this week and
take that next step where teams are going to go okay.
I'm really intrigued about this guy his ability to push
the football down the field.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
And that's not just deep ball accuracy.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Right, when we say push the ball down the field,
talk about arms strength, We think how far can you
throw the goball? Can you throw at seventy eighty can
you do the Joe Milton from a year ago and
you know, almost hit the top there in Lucas Soil Stadium.
I want to see him be able to push a
football down the field on some of these deep incuts,
right when there's a tight window and you've got to
throw a twenty yard en route, when you've got to
throw a comeback from the opposite hash to the opposite
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sideline and Manti, that doesn't just mean that I'm going
to go out there and gun it as hard as
I can and put all my power into it. You
can time it up with anticipatory throws.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Right.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
What that means is is if I'm going to go
out there and throw it and there's a guy with
a strong arm that's going to throw it at three seconds,
I'm going to throw it at two point eight seconds.
I'm gonna get it out early with a little bit
of air so the ball is there in the right time.
I don't need it to be a muscle throw every time,
but he needs to show off that he can make
those down the field throws with the incuts, the outcuts,
the rhythm throws to the opposite sideline. If these teams
really want to take him serious about being a potential backup,
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even a starter in the NFL. I think he has
all the intangibles. He's just got to take that next step.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Now.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Looking at the running backs, a guy and Peter kind
of mentioned those Ohio State tandem. With those two guys,
the one I'm looking at is Trevon Henderson.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I think he is one of, if.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Not the best running backs in this class outside of
Ashton Gent. He is so good with the football in
his hands. He had a thousand yards as a freshman.
He's continues to get better. Right, He's a very good player.
We saw how good he is in the College Football Playoff.
We saw he has that breakaway speed. He can catch
the football out of the backfield. I think that's going
to help him in the combine because we're going to
see routes on air with the running backs, and when
you're an offensive coordinator, and you have a running back
that can catch out of the backfield, you start rubbing
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your hands together and saying, I can use this guy
on third down, I can use him in checkdowns. I
can find him in Manda Man situations. Get him out
of the backfield. He can take advantage there to extend play.
He's also a very good pass blocker, one of the
best in the combine. And that's going to excite a
lot of these offensive coordinators. And the final thing, and
I think the most important, he protects the football. Only
two fumbles and four years at Ohio State. The last
one was against Maryland and twenty twenty two. If you
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protect the football, you protect the team. If I've been
on some offensive coordinator, I'm looking at Trevon Henderson this week.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
That's cool. When I walked in this morning to the
makeup room, I saw Jamie shoes.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh boy, and Jamie.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
I saw the two g's on there, And anybody knows
that type of luxury, it's it's it's those are fancy too.
But Jamie had the two g's on her feet, and
that's the Gucci, that's the Gucci brand. Now, the two
guys that I have, they have two g's two. I
call him the guts and grit clue.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You could have just gone there, Jamie, Come on.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know that was awesome.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
So my quarterback is obviously Riley Leonard for obvious reasons,
Notre Dame quarterback. He led us to the national championship. Now,
he's not going to wall you with stats. He's not
going to go out there and throw for four hundred
three hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But this guy's a winner. He's a competitor.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
When you watched him in that semi final against Georgia,
you watch him die for a first down a third
and seven.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think it was This guy just does everything he
can to win.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
And that's the type of guys that I want to
surround myself with. Now he's over there in Mobile, Alabama,
working out with QB Country, who trained Drake May, Boenix
and Arch Manning, And according to an NFL scout who
watched him train, his arm is looking scary. So I
want to see what scary looks like in this NFL
combine when he's out there throwing routes to people.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Now, my running back, I love this guy.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
He epitomizes guts, he epitomizes glory. His name is bow
Scataboo from Arizona State Sun Devil.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I love ball it scamming bowl Scatabuo can scatabool.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
This guy in that playoff game against Texas, he threw up,
came back and threw a forty two yard touchdown and
ran for two hundred and twenty seven toty yards.
Speaker 10 (12:59):
And two rushing touchdowns. This guy says running back on the.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Depth chart, but he's just a ball player.
Speaker 10 (13:05):
He wants to win, and he epitomizes the.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
Quote that says your best ability is availability. He's going
to be available wherever you want him to play, He's
going to play. He reminds me of Craig Reynolds from
the Detroit Lions. He's just a cultural piece. And so
these are the two guys I call him Magucci guys.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
The two g's guts and grit. That's my guys.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Very good man, sai I. Kyle Brandt is very appreciative
that you brought up camp Scautabo.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
He loves z thatch guy.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
So we always have to yell his name.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
And I love how you go.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
An NFL scouts saw Riley Leonard throwing as if you
couldn't just call somebody a notre name and be like, hey,
how's Rolly Leonard looking?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
You have to go NFL scouts saw him.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's NFL scout guys. It gets more validity inside source.
Come on, I'm just can.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
I give a fun Cam Scatterbo story from Super Bowl Week?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So I'm not.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
I'm at an event during Super Bowl Week, gets down
there in New Orleans and Joe Burrow is about ten
feet away, and I, you know, tip my cap to Burrow.
He their acknowledges, doesn't acknology.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
He looks at me. It's fine. A fin girled out.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
When I saw Cam Scattabo ten feet away and I
ran them like, Cam Scattabo, you vomited on the field
against Texas.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
And he's like yeah, and we took a photo. It's
the only photo I took all week long was with
Cam Scattabo.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I love that kid. He's awesome, His dad is awesome.
And Joe Burrows whatever. Cam Scattabo was the guy, Peter,
what's Scatabo like in person?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Just like build wise, Like he walks up and you're
like that guy's a bowling ball, he's a running back, Like,
what's the what's his mouse.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Yes, all the traps.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
You got a good running back, a good linebacker. When
there's no neck, that's what you know that they're not
afraid to run over exactly.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
It's scataboo.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And the rest of the running backs, we're gonna see
them work out this weekend. And of course all those quarterbacks,
which by the way, we are going to talk about
next with Cody Kessler. It's like staring straight into the sun.
You gotta look at quarterbacks when it comes to the
NFL scouting combine Cody Kessler of USC, of the Cleveland
Browns time in the NFL time and the call game.
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Now you're broadcasting with your alma mater, so you know
the college level. Well, you know these guys that are
going to work out this weekend. Let's walk through some quarterbacks.
Some names that we may see participate this weekend, we
might not, but it's just good to stay aware. Cam
Ward still undecided.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Let's start with him.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah, I would love to see cam throw. I think
he can help himself if he does go out there
and throw. And then the biggest thing for me is
his arm talent is off the charts, right. You love
putting on the tape and watching him make all those
off angle throws. He'll throw off a platform, He'll throw
falling away. He can get side arm, he can get
over the top, he can throw guys open right. It
does a great job of finding different windows that maybe
aren't there. But he also needs to work with his
feet a little bit too.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
He can kind of throw falling away that hurts him.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Sometimes he can fall off that can really hurt him
with his accuracy with his timing. But overall, he is
a quarterback that can always make those superhero type plays
right now.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I talked yesterday about.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
He needs to learn when it's time to be Superman
and when it's okay to be Clark Kinton. That's something
if he can get with the right coach, with the
right offensive coordinator, he can really excel at the next level.
Because if I'm an offensive coordinator and I have a
guy like cam Ward, I'm going out there call and
shot play after shot play after shot play. I want
to push the football down the field and be explosive,
but I need to trust it. You're going to protect
me as a play caller and know that it's okay
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to throw a check down or throw it away. Instead
of going, you know, getting out of your progression too quickly,
trying to make that superhero play, and then you get
in trouble and then we cast some turnover.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
It was always fun this season to hear like the
rumors and reports of what GM or coach was at
cam Ward's games trying to prepare for the NFL Draft.
We always know that there was a GM or a
coach at this guy's game. Shaudur sanders well because of
his dad oftentimes.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
But what does should Dour bring to the table.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Yeah, Shador is the most complete quarterback in my opinion
in this draft. He has the poise, he's calm, he's cool,
he's collected. If you watch the tape, he never gets rattle.
He does a great job of going through progression. He
knows his limitations. He knows he's not going to take
off and hurt you with his feat. He is not
a dual threat quarterback. He can take off and pick
up a first down if needed. But he does such
a great job of not panicking going through progression. And
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he took a lot of hits at Colorado forty three sacks.
Colorado gave up a year ago, which was one hundred
and twenty six in college football, mind you, there's one
hundred and thirty three teams, so they strug in protecting him.
Now where he can help himself with some of that,
and he can be a little bit of the issue
as he does get off off his spot when he
drops back, and what I mean by that is he'll
drift a little to the right, he'll drift a little
to the left. You wantnecessarily close a gap with your
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right tackle with your left tackle. Your offensive lineman will
tell you, I need to be at your launch point,
which is in the middle of the pocket, so that
I know that I can push a defender by you
can step up and make a play. And the other
thing I think he needs to work on sometimes is
knowing his limitations when he's on the run. Sometimes he'll
lose a little velocity when he throws the football trying
to whirl to his right roll to his left.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
He gets in trouble.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
You can't get away with those throws in the NFL,
and I had to learn that the hard way. Yeah,
in fall camp, even in rookie mini camp, those guys
will make those plays. But I think he's going to
continue to develop and he's going to be a top
quarterback in this year's draft.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
One of these next guys Peter covered a segment ago,
but his name is like all NFL at this point,
Jackson Dart already no matter where you go, you have
an awesome name and we love it. Two SEC quarterbacks
that you want.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
To talk about, Yeah, Jackson Dart. That was Peter brought
it up. He was at USC. I wish we were
able to keep him at USC, but obviously he went
to all mess with Lang kip In, one of my
old coaches, and he excel at the highest level.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Peter said exactly.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
What I was thinking and what I've been saying about
Jackson Dart this whole process. He can have a bow
Knicks type of a sind in this draft right last
year and Peter's defense, we were giving him a hard
time yesterday. Why was bow Knicks not in your top ten? Well,
that's because at this point, and I'll put my hand up,
no one had bow Nicks inside their top ten, top twenty.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Maybe even top thirty.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
The age thing was a factor, was his game in
a transition to the NFL.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Same thing with Jackson Dart a little bit. They didn't
call it for a while.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
But if he can go out there and crush the combine,
crush the interviews, which I know he will with Lang
Tiffin in the offensive mind that he is, he can
really jump up some of these draft boards, and like
Peter said, I would be surprised if we see him
as a high end potentially middle of the first round
draft pick when it's all said and done. The other
guy from the SEC for me, as Quinn Ewers, we
forget how talented he is because of the controversy this
year in Texas a strange year, and he got hurt,
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he went out, he struggled a little bit.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Arch Manning comes in, they.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Go back and forth, and there's some controversy about take
Quinn out. You could see him lose his confidence right
when I know what quarterback loses their confidence is when
they get a little bit of a trigger shot, right.
They don't want to pull the trigger. They hesitate, They're
not going through their progression quite as quickly as they can.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
They're worried about forcing the throws. They don't want to
make that mistake.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
If Whenewers can get back to the confident type of
player we've seen from him in years past, I really
think he can jump up and fight with Jackson dark
for that third overall spot.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
All right, that's really cool.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
A couple more quarterbacks, I don't know, dark horse guys,
sleeper guys. There's a bunch of kind of cheesy terms.
But that doesn't mean that we're not going to want
to be paying attention to them on Saturday because we
might hear their names or we will hear their names at.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
The end of April.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, I'm so right now, rit four. I was fighting
with myself where to go? I went five A, five B,
five seats, right, you know, normally to one segment.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I know.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
But the dark horses, for me, guys that I think
are going to be in that fifth spot, they can
pentionally be their first one from you is Will Howard.
If he continues to have the progress that he's had
at the end of the season they shore that he
did have at the end of the season going on
to win the national championship. He can really do that
and I'm excited to watch him take that to the
next level.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
We also learned under Chip Kelly. Yeah, so if the
Raiders at.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
That sixth spot, maybe don't take a quarterback, don't trade up.
Could they find Will Howard in later rounds. It's yet
to be seen. But what he did so well in
something Drew Brees made a living of was being accurate
and knowing and trusting the playmakers around you. I didn't
have to do too much. I'm going to get the
ball to the playmakers around me and let them do
the rest. As an offensive coordinator, I love that because
he's not going to.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Put the ball in harm's way.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
He's going to be accurate, throw those drag routes, throw
those over routes, and let your receivers and your playmakers
do the rest. The next guy for me is Jaln Milroe.
He is, in my opinion, one of not only as
a quarterback, one of the best athletes in this draft.
Now the question mark is where do you put him?
Where's he going to get drafted, Where's he going to
fit in? He is last consistency a little bit as
a thrower. He'll make some throws when you watch the
tape and I went back watched a couple of his
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games where you see one of you goose that's a
NFL Sunday level throw. He can make that throw. Then
I'll come back and have a couple that he misses
with his footwork being off, not cleaning up, his pocket
presence a little bit, a little quick to take off
and run. So if he can clean up all those
things and become a little bit better of a pocket passer,
I really think he can jump up. And I've seen
some draft boards that have him around that two three spot.
I'm not surprised with that.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
They're just a big hit.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
But if he can develop and take that next step,
and then the last guy for me and I think
helped his draft stock the most this year was Colin
McCord from Syracuse, right, and then.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Kind of took some of that pressure off him.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
He was a little bit of a forgotten name leaving
Ohio State, going to Syracuse, not playing in the Big Ten,
and not really on that national stage a whole lot.
When you put the tape on his arm is as
good as anybody, yeah right now in college level. It's
just he got overshadowed a little bit being a Syracuse
And then when you watched that Bowl game, he made
a huge statement in that game saying, hey, I'm still here,
I can fight for that this spot. I can be
a top five quarterback maybe a Day two pick. I
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can fight in that second and third round. But if
he continues to take advantage of this offseason, of this
pre draft period, those are three guys for me, they
could fight in that fifth spot. And look, I don't know, Peter.
I'd love to hear your opinion because I can't remember
in recent history, and I went back and looked at
some of the drafts after one and two, and I
guess Dart can maybe fit in that third spot. But
after that, I am just I'm lost. Right now, we're
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to put four, five, six, and seven. I'll go out
to the seventh guy. So I'd love to hear your
guys in opinion. But those are my thoughts on those guys.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Yeah, look, a couple of years ago, there was no
quarterback taken in the first nineteen picks. Can he Pickett
win at number twenty? And then it was like, okay,
we'll LEVI a second round. Maybe we've had years like this. Look,
kim Ward is an elite prospect, Shador Sanders is Dart
we think might go first round. But you just mentioned
three different names that are going to be able to
impress people this weekend Saturday when they're competing. I will
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ask you about a player though, which comes with a
lot more than just the player and the skill. Shador
Sanders obviously, Dion Sun feel like it's a sensitive topic
when anyone criticizes or puts a flaw out on his name.
I've seen people say he's a second round prospect to others.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Saying they like him more than cam Ward.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Objectively, you get to watch these guys, Cody, what do
you think on Shador Sanders the football player, but also
the total package that comes with him, knowing that he
is Deon's kid, and who knows there might be more
that comes with that.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Yeah, Shador is by far the most intriguing quarterback prospect
in my opinion in this draft. Because I'm with you,
I can see and I can understand him being a
second round pick, but I can also understand him being
the first quarterback taken off.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Of the board. And what I said earlier was that
him being.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
The most polished quarterback in my opinion, is just a
pocket passer, right, A guy that can sit there and
throw a whole shot, or throw a bendor route right
that over cover too and throw it over the middle.
A guy that can go through progression, the guy that
can protect the football. He knows what it takes to
have pressure in his face standing there and make those throws.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
And normally when you're.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Drafted higher up, you don't have the luxury of going
to a team with a solidified offensive line. That's one
of my former Trojans, Taylor Williams, about that. He took
some hits this year. But the thing for me, Peter
that I think is going to separate him the most
is that when he went to Colorado, and I know
everyone talks about Travis him, which they absolutely should. He's
a phenomenal player, but Colorado isn't where they are today
without Shador Sanders at quarterback. I truly believe that he
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knows what it takes to turn a program around, and scouts,
you're going to look at that and say, okay, well
you're going to a team getting drafted as high as
you can be that is struggling right now, that needs
a turnaround. He knows how to go there and face
adversity and get Colorado like you know, or get Calido
to where it is today when he left. I think
he can do the same thing in the NFL. Give
him the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Obviously, Cody.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
I identified a quarterback notting Fighten, Irish quarterback that I
really like him, Riley Leonard. Tell me what about Oh
what about Riley's Riley Leonard's game transitions well over to
the NFL, And what are things that he could work
on that can help him improve himself as a quarterback
and maybe maybe be behind Sightka.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Why isn't he on your list?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
I was about to say, I'm glad you went there,
because I was. As soon as you said Riley Leonard,
I was like, why is he not on your list?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
For me?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Right now? Manti?
Speaker 6 (24:23):
I saw him playing person. He is a phenomenal athlete.
I don't think he gets enough credit as a dual
threat as a runner. You know him and Jeremiah love
the running back in Notre Dame. They came to the
coliseum and ran all over us, and he's just such
a great He has great pocket presence, but he knows
when to take off and he knows when to throw
it right. He's not just sitting there and all right,
I'm gonna take off and run after my first reads
out there. He does a great job of that. He
just seems to develop as a passer for me, and
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that starts with this footwork.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
If he can get.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Better with, you know, throwing in rhythm, three hitch step,
up standing rhythm, going through progression.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Don't you know when you're a quarterback and.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
You start panicking a little bit, you start going your
feet before your eyes and what that means is is
my feearre going over the place and I don't know
what I'm reading. If you can go is to one right,
then ises of two feet follow and you're comfortable in rhythm,
which something that I think he can develop the right
way in the right place, he can be a very
good quarterback.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
But if he can get that down and.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Improve on that, I don't see why you won't be
a starter one day, or even a solid backup in
the NFL with you know, the potential to become a starter.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Cody is really good stuff. I'm just laughing because you
told us yesterday like I had to decide between coaching
and doing television, and you're crushing the television thing. Well whatever,
you just said, eyes to one, eyes.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
To two feet fallow.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I was like, Okay, maybe you can also coach.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
On the side a little bit.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
It's the old saying of eyes before feet right. You
can't throw what you can't see. You can't throw to
what you can't see. I always tell my young quarteras.
I used to actually train some younger quarterbacks back in
Bigger so I went back and helped out. But I
always tell him, if I'm a right hand or throwing
to the left, I'm not just going to swing my
feet and throw it.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
There is proof in the pudding. You've got to go
through progression. You've got to trust what you see.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
My eyes are at one, I just go to two,
then I reset as a three reset, then I make
the throw, and then I move on. I should have
done with the football out there. I could have got
into the hole fire and the hips and yeah, back
drill and all of that.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
But then those young guys just look at Patrick Mahomes like,
but he's not.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
He's thrown the things he can't see.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
He does it.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Why can't I?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Sorry, Patrick Mahomes is the as.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
Yeah, guys, if you know anything about me, you know
that my blood runs blue and gold. But there was
a time where I used to rep the cardinal end gold.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well, yesterday we found out that Cody here.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
Being a USC quarterback, used to root for the Irish.
Speaker 10 (26:23):
So what we're gonna do today was there gonna make
play a little game, a big on if, a big
what if. Disclaimer, we love our schools, okay, but this
is a great three on three game where I'm gonna
I'm gonna state three players that I watched growing up,
three USC players, and Cody is gonna do his three
top notre dame players that he watched growing up. So
for me, number three on my list now it's I
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don't know how Cody's gonna beat this guy. His name
is Junior Seau now Junior Seou in the Polynesian culture,
in the Saomo and household, was one of those guys
that we just watched. He was one of the pilgrims here,
was one of the pioneers, that guy that blaze the
trail for a lot of people like me.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I watched Junior Sau growing up.
Speaker 9 (27:02):
I heard about him at USC office watching his Hall
of Fame career.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
In San Diego with the Chargers.
Speaker 10 (27:08):
He is somebody that when you think about football, when
you think about linebacker, when you think about greatness, it's
it just comes hand in hand.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
With Junior Sales. So that's my number three I'm going
to pass it over to Cody. Cody, I don't know
how you're going to top that, but who's your number three.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
I'm sticking with defense as well.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
But the first thing I will say before I get
into that another disclaimer for me. I am Cardinal and
gold all the way. Fight on. Please Trojans do not
come for me on Twitter. I promise you. I came
to my senses. They're going to ended up going to
USC So this is in the past before you know.
I became a Trojan. But I'm going defense. So I'm
going Tom Zivikowski I was and two and one will
make a little bit more sense about how I got
to know Tom Zvikowski watching him, But he was such
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a fun player to watch. He played safety. He also
took punts back. He was part of the reason that
I wore that three bar face mask. I threw a
visor on it as well. For those who don't know,
I played a little safety back in high school. I
played a little safety back in middle school as well.
Had the hitting end of the week t.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Shirt, Manti.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
You would like to know that I got came out
there and laid the wood on one of the hits
and got one of the T shirts they sent me
from the whole town Bakersfield Sports. But yeah, I'm going tons.
Zibakalsio on number three. Also a great boxer. Great, we'd
go out there and tear it up on the field
and then go beat you up in the parking lot
after if he said.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Some stuff great boxer game there there's a picture of
him at noted game. We have this thing called Bengal
Bolts where you can go ou there and box, and
Zibio is one of those guys that would participate in
the Bengal Bolts a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Great. That's round one.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Number two.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
The guy who really changed for me college football and
football in general, in my opinion, the greatest college football
player in the history of college football, Reggie Bush. Reggie
Bush to me when I saw this man play, I
remember watching him when he came to Hawaiian and they
played the University of Juii Adaloha Stadium, and I watched
him live. I was probably the only Hawaiian in the
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sea of green T shirts that was wearing the cardinal
and Golden.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I was at that game right there too.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
By the way, he is just somebody that growing up
helped me to dream bigger and watching him in.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
All of his highlights.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
We talked yesterday about the Fresno State game, how iconic
that was so for me. Number two on my list
was Reggie Bush. Now I always like, man who's number
one after Reggie?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But before we.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
Get to number one on my list, Cody, who do
you have is number two on your list?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
I'm going to quarterback here. This is where we started
getting quarterback heavy. I'm going with Brady Quinn at number two, right,
and I watched again number one. Will makes sense about
how I know these older guys. This is a little
bit before I got to high school, in my time.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
And growing up a little bit.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
But Brady Quinn was a guy I went to watch
Brady Quinn as well live in the colseume at that game.
I watched him play a little bit at Notre Dame.
A lot of fun to watch a quarterback that I
like to model my game. After a little bit, you know,
ended up going in the draft.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
We both went to Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
We had a little bit of a shared experience there,
but Brady Quinn was my number two, a guy that
I liked watch, right, you know, being a quarterback someone
that I looked up.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
To a little bit.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Now, Brady Quinn. I love Brady Quinn. I mean that
guy at two thousand and five. I mean we talked
about the bush push.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
He was.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
He was a quarterback for a Notre Dame during that game.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
And he's just somebody that.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
Really helps the Notre Dame athletes financially, helps him to
see life beyond football.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
So you know, shout out.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
To Brady all right, last, but not least, Now, this
guy I have a personal relationship with. He's He's a
big brother of mine. Actually named my son after him.
It is the one, the only Troy Polamalo, Troy Polamalu.
You know the hair, you know all all of the fantastic,
iconic plays that he's made as a Steeler.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I've watched this guy make plays since he wore the
cardinal and gold.
Speaker 9 (30:22):
His humility about him, just who he is as a person,
what he means, what he means to his his his kids,
as a father. He's everything I hope to be in
a man, And before I even knew him personally, I
hope to be him.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
As a football player.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
So I had to end it off with Troy Polamalu.
I love Troy, and I'm excited to see who your
number one is, Cody, Who's your number one?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I gotta say that real quick though, Troy, Paula mal
So I played you know, Kennedy Paulamlo. I think that's
his uncle, correct, Ye played for coach Paula Malo.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
He was one of my favorite coaches.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
He was he had that hard nose attitude about him,
a running back coach. I spent a lot of time
with him as a quarterback when we were there at USC.
But my number one, a good friend of mine to
this day, is quarterback Jim. And now it makes sense
a little bit. Let me tell the backstory. When I
was in middle school, right, you'd always look at those
rivals dot Com and ESPN. Who was the top guy?
Who was the highest rated quarterback? Jimmy classon was that dude, right?
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He was the guy that everyone looked up to. He
wore the headband. And I don't even if he knows
the story. I'll send him this and he's probably gonna
get a kick out of it. But he wore the
head band in high school. So then I started wearing
the head band and took it to my high school.
They still wear it to this day there and they
call it the Cody headband. They don't know that I
got it from Jimmy. Now they do. But Jimmy Warden
in high school, iighly as a guy. I thought he
was just he was a guy that I wanted to be.
I wanted to be the number one quarterback in the
recruiting class. I wanted to be, you know, that guy
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that came up and was going to get to go
to Notre Dame, right or have all these offers. Unfortunately,
Notre Dame actually never offered me. So man, Tau, you
can talk to them about that. But ended up going
to USC. But yeah, I know, shout out to him.
I've got my guy, Jimmy Closs and so I talked
to him this day. I just saw him with the
Notre Dame USC game this year. Loved the dude. He's awesome.
But yeah, that was what really started me, or what
really started my fandom of becoming a Notre Dame fan.
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And that's how I got to know Brady Quinn because
at the time I knew Jimmy was going to Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
So I went and watched.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Quinn was a quarterback then and then also, Tom Zbikowski
is back there hitting people in returning punts.
Speaker 10 (32:07):
I love it, brother, what a great game. Let's let's
let's turn over to the screen. Let's see our picks.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
How we stack up against each other.
Speaker 10 (32:14):
Obviously I got Junior say Oh number three, Reggie number two,
Troy number one, Cody, you have Zibby, Brady Quinn number two,
and Jimmy Clauson.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
So what a game? Now?
Speaker 9 (32:25):
Before we start, Now, before we go to sister Jamie,
can we switch sides.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Yeah, to be clear, let me be clear before before
the Notre Dame Irish come after me too. I'm not
saying top three Notre Dame players of all time. These
were the Notre Dame players we need to become a fan.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, we watched.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
I don't want anyone to come out here.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
I saw your face and you couldn't have your mic boat.
There was one name, I think it was Abakowski. When
he hit Toms of Bakowski, you were like.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yes, that was awesome.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
I mean and also went to the Ravens and was
like a punt returner who never called for a fair catch,
just wanted to pain, wanted to just take every Zibakowski
was like.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Notre Dame in that era.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
I want to ask both these guys if I say
a name. This is so deep cut, but like it says, like,
what do you got on matt Levechio? What do you
got on Matt Levechio? Can you give me anything?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
This was a Notre Dame quarterback my generation, my.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Race to Peter's generation.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
This was this was like the number one prospect. He
was the quarterback of Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
There.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
But when you start going down the list of names
like Jimmy Clausen and you go down and you start
talking Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
There is a golden era of Notre Dame quarterbacks. Lovecchio
was in there as well.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
All right, can we do a little memory tracer to
November twenty fourth, twenty twelve, the only time Mantai and
Cody were on the field at the same time. You
did not play in this game, but there is a
I don't want to, I don't want to make fun
of Max Wittek, but like, what was going on.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
That day that helped you out? Yeah? So so Max
and I are still good friends. Love the guy.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
It's one of those things, those awkward things in college, right,
you guys, we both sat behind Matt Barkley.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Okay, hung out a lot.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
When Matt left, we got into an open quarterback competition
that actually got hurt that year. So Max Whitty goes
in and we're playing against Notre Dame. I told Manti
jokingly that he picked off witting in that game. So
he helped me in an open quarterback competition the following offseason.
And then, like I said, Max is a great guy.
We're good friends. But yeah, I know it was. It
was awesome and wish we got thee we got to
play that game. I had to wait another year to
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become the starter, but yeah, I looked up the Mantai
as well.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
As a player at Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
I was again, always a diehard Trojan I always will
be forever. But there is a little soft spot in
my heart for the Notre Dame firing Irish because it
kind of got me into football.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
A little bit.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
And the big part of that was Jimmy Clauston.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
We're entering blue blood's territory with March Madness next month,
but these two schools definitely blue bloods category when it
comes to college football. Good job you too, Cody Cluster
manthideo Here, a.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Stringer with the what was that guy?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Matt I got one more honorable mention Jeff some margin,
Jeff
Speaker 3 (34:54):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
All right, fine, we'll do it.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
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and Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Today.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It's Tuesday, February twenty fifth. I'm Jamie Ertall. Here's mantay Toe.
Peter Schrager packing his bag. He's probably got his rollie
with him in the studio there. He is headed to
the Combine today and we'll see him from Indianapolis the
rest of the week. And of course, Cody Kessler back
in the hot seat. You former USC quarterback drafted by
the Cleveland Browns. How's life? How are you quarterbacking the
show right now?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
It's been a lot of fun. I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 6 (00:51):
Day one was awesome. Day two I feel a little
more settled in right. It's like yesterday was the first
day school. Yeah, and I got my outfit picked out.
Everything was good. Now the second day, I'm making some friends.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm getting comfortable.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
But now I love talking football, so I could do.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
It forever, right, shregs. Welcome to the lunch table.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, I love being here.
Speaker 7 (01:06):
Cody, You've been awesome. Manti of course you've been fantastic. Yesterday,
Cody Kessler showed us his combine footage where he had
these lime green fluorescent shoes that he was throwing in
baggy shorts, big baggy shirt, just throwing dimes and dots
all over the field. Cody, where are those lime green
shoes that you wore at the combine in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Shregs, You're gonna love this.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
So not only do I have lime green, I have
like a hot orange type color undramer ones. I have
some other So when you're going through the combine, Mantile.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Will tell you.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
They just start sending you stuff right when you're training
at a different place for whatever reason. When I was coming
out of college, and it was right around twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen, Neon was the vibe. Everyone was doing Neon.
So the green plates to orange. We had hot pink.
We had a yellow, like a highlighter yellow.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
So you let me know, Shregs, what you want.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
I'm a size fourteen, so I'm a little bigger than
the twelve.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
We can make it work.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Just put a couple pairs of socks on and you
can fit right in them.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I love it, dude.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
We always want to be able to find Peter in
a crowd and with me, choose that will do it.
Let's go to Indianapolis. We saw some of that vintage
footage from Manti and Cody yesterday. But guys are trying
to make a name for themselves this week ahead of
the NFL scouting combine. Those are the tight ends they
are beginning to report as well. On the right side,
you are seeing tight end number fifteen. That is Colston
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Loveland out of Michigan. He is Peter Scheger's number nine
on his top ten list. We revealed six through ten
last hour, and we will be waiting on baited breath
for five through one tomorrow Tom Pellasero. Until then, let's
check in on some of the big names that may
or may not be participating. Can we start in the
Big ten with the Penn State star Abdul Carter and
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how his shoulder injury might be affecting his combine training.
Speaker 8 (02:50):
Jamie Abdul Carter is not going to be participating here
at the combine. Doctor Daniel Cooper, who's a noted medical expert,
examined his shoulder that he injured back in the Boise
State game. Recently, Cooper sate letter to team saying he
will be cleared in time to participate in Penn State's
pro day at the end of March, but not going
to be out there this week at the Combine. Now,
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that's not entirely unusual either for top prospects to not
to end up participating in the on field drills here
in Indianapolis. Another one that you can add to the list,
Ashton Genty, the Boise State running back. He's also going
to wait for his pro day. Shador Sanders of course
opted out of participating here in the Combine. But we've
got a lot of the other top prospects that are
going to be out here. Will Campbell, Can I interest
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you in an offensive lineman who's going to put up
really cool numbers?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
He's going to be out here.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
There's going to be a three hundred plus prospects all
working out. It all begins on Thursday, right here on
NFL Network.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Jamie, All right, Tom, what about the quarterbacks? I feel
like we can't have a conversation between you and I
without saying somebody's name that throws a football on what
we care about this weekend? So those guys work out
on Saturday. Any enlightening information you want to share with
us just right now?
Speaker 8 (03:58):
Well, Jamie the top quarterback prospect for a lot of people.
Miami's cam Ward is undecided. I am told participating here
at the scouting combine. He has been doing combine type workouts.
He's been preparing as if he is going to go
through a throwing session, but still deciding exactly what he
intends to do this week. Quarterbacks are arriving in town today,
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so I would anticipate those decisions are going to be
made relatively soon. As for the rest of the quarterbacks
other than Shador Sanders, I anticipate all of them throwing
out here this week. That includes Texas when yours, who
was beat up last season he had a tornal bleak
initially separate.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
In the Michigan game.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Dealt with that more or less the entire season. He
is healthy now and told he's up to about two
hundred and fifteen pounds. He's been watching tape with Mike
McCarthy this week preparing for his interviews at the combine.
McCarthy had nothing but good things to say about twin yours,
who's going to get his opportunity to show should he
be QB three? Could he even be QB two? The
lot on the line here in Indianapolis. Jackson Dart is
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also going to throw here at the combine. Riley Leonard
from Notre Dame is going to be a participant. Jalen
Milroe from Alabama. A lot of big names college football
that you watched on Saturdays getting their opportunities show they
belong on Sundays. All starts here in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Jam Tom, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Next segment on GMTP, Cody Kessler, whether or not they
are participating in the combine. He's going to break down
some of those quarterbacks that Tom just named, So stay
tuned on GMTP until then. Let's stick with the offensive
side of the ball. We're going to have some names
that we're going to throw at the board, Peter, pick
a quarterback, pick a running back. Let's go around the
table and just kick around some of these names, Peter,
that you are hearing about and you want to enlighten
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people on I want.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
To talk Jackson Dart. Hey, he's got a very cool name,
Jackson Dart. His brother's name is Diesel Dart, so I
think that's one of the two coolest names you can imagine.
But Jackson darts story is interesting. He was the National
Gatorade Player of the Year coming out of high school,
and he committed to USC, played a year at USC,
and then he transferred to Ole Miss, where for the
past three seasons he's been their primary starter and has
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been electric. In the last two years they went eleven
and two and ten and three, and Jackson Dart was
the starting quarterback and a loaded SEC. And this guy
put up huge, huge numbers four two and seventy nine
yards this year. Twenty nine touchdowns, just six interceptions. You're
talking about forty two hundred yards through the air, passes
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like that, thrown off the back foot, and he's got
the bill. This is a six foot two quarterback. He's
got the size. I have long been a Jackson Dart fan.
I remember when he was coming out of high school,
so I've always been charting his career. And you talk
about ward and Sanders as like one to two and
then this big drapa.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I don't see it that way.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
It could be Warden Sanders and Dark could be your
third first round quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I am a Jackson Dart fan.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
And I love the fact that he went to the
Senior Bowl, competed at the Senior Bowl, and is now
at the Combine. Is competing at the Combine. A similar
guy like that last year was Bo Nix, who had
this great college career, was overlooked in the whole pre
draft process going in. Then he's like, you know what,
I'm gonna do the Senior Bowl, I'm gonna do the Combine.
I'm gonna excel, and I'm gonna meet with these teams
and they might like what they see. Jackson Dart has
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been a five star recruit every day of his life
and has been that guy at every.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Program he's been at.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Why now as he suddenly being overlooked and not considered
a first round pick, We'll see if he could change
that narrative. As for running back, it's a totally different
story from me, I go to running back.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I'm going to the University of Iowa, and I'm going.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
With Caleb Johnson, the running back who didn't really get
an opportunity to be a star until this year.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Caleb Johnson gets on the field, that's.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Basically a first year starter this year, and he comes
out there and he runs for more than fifteen hundred yards.
He is on a list of very few players in
the Big Ten who have had fifteen hundred yards and
the touchdowns that he had in the Big Ten twenty
one rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
That list is Jonathan Taylor, JK.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Dobbins, and Ezekiel Elliott, those guys who went second round,
second round, first round. Now, I know this is not
the same type of prospect as Jenty out of Boise State,
or Hampton out of North Carolina, or even the two
Ohio State running backs right now, but just watch this.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Watch out this guy stock rises. I think we will
relate to.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Him because he wasn't a big name going into this season.
But I think Caleb Johnson at his size two hundred
and twenty pounds.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Six feet like a big running back who can carry
the rock.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
I wouldn't be shocked if Caleb Johnson leaps up those
running back lists and is suddenly the third fourth running
back taken after some of the bigger name guys. Big
Caleb Johnson fan Big Jackson Dart fan. And they will
both be out there this weekend competing, which is something
I really like to see.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Like Jamie mentioned, I'll talk a little more quarterbacks later
on in the show. But the guy that I'm going
with in this segment is quarterback Dylan Gabriel from Oregon.
I just I think he's a very good quarterback. He
gets overlooked as well, kind of in that Jackson Dark category.
For me, Gabriel is at his best when he can
sit in the pocket, when he can go through progression,
when he can go one, two to three to four,
throw the football way if it's not there, or find
his checkdown.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
That's when he's his most comfortable.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
Right He's very accurate with the football two percent completions
percentage a year ago at Oregon in the Big Ten,
a lot of very good defenses, a lot of very
good pass rushers in that conference.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
So he did a great job there. But this is
where he's going to.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Excel in the combine because he's going to be out
there maybe some lime green creek please, we'll see, but
he's going to be in shorts and a T shirt
and he's throwing routes on their right. That's where he
can go out there and show off his accuracy. But
what I want to see from him this week and
take that next step where teams are going to go okay.
I'm really intrigued about this guy his ability to push
the football down the field.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
And that's not just deep ball accuracy.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Right, when we say push the ball down the field,
talk about arms strength, We think how far can you
throw the goball? Can you throw at seventy eighty can
you do the Joe Milton from a year ago and
you know, almost hit the top there in Lucas Soil Stadium.
I want to see him be able to push a
football down the field on some of these deep incuts,
right when there's a tight window and you've got to
throw a twenty yard en route, when you've got to
throw a comeback from the opposite hash to the opposite
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sideline and Manti, that doesn't just mean that I'm going
to go out there and gun it as hard as
I can and put all my power into it. You
can time it up with anticipatory throws.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Right.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
What that means is is if I'm going to go
out there and throw it and there's a guy with
a strong arm that's going to throw it at three seconds,
I'm going to throw it at two point eight seconds.
I'm gonna get it out early with a little bit
of air so the ball is there in the right time.
I don't need it to be a muscle throw every time,
but he needs to show off that he can make
those down the field throws with the incuts, the outcuts,
the rhythm throws to the opposite sideline. If these teams
really want to take him serious about being a potential backup,
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even a starter in the NFL. I think he has
all the intangibles. He's just got to take that next step.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Now.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Looking at the running backs, a guy and Peter kind
of mentioned those Ohio State tandem. With those two guys,
the one I'm looking at is Trevon Henderson.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I think he is one of, if.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Not the best running backs in this class outside of
Ashton Gent. He is so good with the football in
his hands. He had a thousand yards as a freshman.
He's continues to get better. Right, He's a very good player.
We saw how good he is in the College Football Playoff.
We saw he has that breakaway speed. He can catch
the football out of the backfield. I think that's going
to help him in the combine because we're going to
see routes on air with the running backs, and when
you're an offensive coordinator, and you have a running back
that can catch out of the backfield, you start rubbing
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your hands together and saying, I can use this guy
on third down, I can use him in checkdowns. I
can find him in Manda Man situations. Get him out
of the backfield. He can take advantage there to extend play.
He's also a very good pass blocker, one of the
best in the combine. And that's going to excite a
lot of these offensive coordinators. And the final thing, and
I think the most important, he protects the football. Only
two fumbles and four years at Ohio State. The last
one was against Maryland and twenty twenty two. If you
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protect the football, you protect the team. If I've been
on some offensive coordinator, I'm looking at Trevon Henderson this week.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
That's cool. When I walked in this morning to the
makeup room, I saw Jamie shoes.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh boy, and Jamie.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
I saw the two g's on there, And anybody knows
that type of luxury, it's it's it's those are fancy too.
But Jamie had the two g's on her feet, and
that's the Gucci, that's the Gucci brand. Now, the two
guys that I have, they have two g's two. I
call him the guts and grit clue.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You could have just gone there, Jamie, Come on.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know that was awesome.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
So my quarterback is obviously Riley Leonard for obvious reasons,
Notre Dame quarterback. He led us to the national championship. Now,
he's not going to wall you with stats. He's not
going to go out there and throw for four hundred
three hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But this guy's a winner. He's a competitor.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
When you watched him in that semi final against Georgia,
you watch him die for a first down a third
and seven.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think it was This guy just does everything he
can to win.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
And that's the type of guys that I want to
surround myself with. Now he's over there in Mobile, Alabama,
working out with QB Country, who trained Drake May, Boenix
and Arch Manning, And according to an NFL scout who
watched him train, his arm is looking scary. So I
want to see what scary looks like in this NFL
combine when he's out there throwing routes to people.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Now, my running back, I love this guy.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
He epitomizes guts, he epitomizes glory. His name is bow
Scataboo from Arizona State Sun Devil.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I love ball it scamming bowl Scatabuo can scatabool.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
This guy in that playoff game against Texas, he threw up,
came back and threw a forty two yard touchdown and
ran for two hundred and twenty seven toty yards.
Speaker 10 (12:59):
And two rushing touchdowns. This guy says running back on the.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Depth chart, but he's just a ball player.
Speaker 10 (13:05):
He wants to win, and he epitomizes the.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
Quote that says your best ability is availability. He's going
to be available wherever you want him to play, He's
going to play. He reminds me of Craig Reynolds from
the Detroit Lions. He's just a cultural piece. And so
these are the two guys I call him Magucci guys.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
The two g's guts and grit. That's my guys.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Very good man, sai I. Kyle Brandt is very appreciative
that you brought up camp Scautabo.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
He loves z thatch guy.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
So we always have to yell his name.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
And I love how you go.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
An NFL scouts saw Riley Leonard throwing as if you
couldn't just call somebody a notre name and be like, hey,
how's Rolly Leonard looking?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
You have to go NFL scouts saw him.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's NFL scout guys. It gets more validity inside source.
Come on, I'm just can.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
I give a fun Cam Scatterbo story from Super Bowl Week?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So I'm not.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
I'm at an event during Super Bowl Week, gets down
there in New Orleans and Joe Burrow is about ten
feet away, and I, you know, tip my cap to Burrow.
He their acknowledges, doesn't acknology.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
He looks at me. It's fine. A fin girled out.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
When I saw Cam Scattabo ten feet away and I
ran them like, Cam Scattabo, you vomited on the field
against Texas.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
And he's like yeah, and we took a photo. It's
the only photo I took all week long was with
Cam Scattabo.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I love that kid. He's awesome, His dad is awesome.
And Joe Burrows whatever. Cam Scattabo was the guy, Peter,
what's Scatabo like in person?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Just like build wise, Like he walks up and you're
like that guy's a bowling ball, he's a running back, Like,
what's the what's his mouse.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Yes, all the traps.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
You got a good running back, a good linebacker. When
there's no neck, that's what you know that they're not
afraid to run over exactly.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
It's scataboo.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And the rest of the running backs, we're gonna see
them work out this weekend. And of course all those quarterbacks,
which by the way, we are going to talk about
next with Cody Kessler. It's like staring straight into the sun.
You gotta look at quarterbacks when it comes to the
NFL scouting combine Cody Kessler of USC, of the Cleveland
Browns time in the NFL time and the call game.
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Now you're broadcasting with your alma mater, so you know
the college level. Well, you know these guys that are
going to work out this weekend. Let's walk through some quarterbacks.
Some names that we may see participate this weekend, we
might not, but it's just good to stay aware. Cam
Ward still undecided.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Let's start with him.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah, I would love to see cam throw. I think
he can help himself if he does go out there
and throw. And then the biggest thing for me is
his arm talent is off the charts, right. You love
putting on the tape and watching him make all those
off angle throws. He'll throw off a platform, He'll throw
falling away. He can get side arm, he can get
over the top, he can throw guys open right. It
does a great job of finding different windows that maybe
aren't there. But he also needs to work with his
feet a little bit too.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
He can kind of throw falling away that hurts him.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Sometimes he can fall off that can really hurt him
with his accuracy with his timing. But overall, he is
a quarterback that can always make those superhero type plays
right now.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I talked yesterday about.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
He needs to learn when it's time to be Superman
and when it's okay to be Clark Kinton. That's something
if he can get with the right coach, with the
right offensive coordinator, he can really excel at the next level.
Because if I'm an offensive coordinator and I have a
guy like cam Ward, I'm going out there call and
shot play after shot play after shot play. I want
to push the football down the field and be explosive,
but I need to trust it. You're going to protect
me as a play caller and know that it's okay
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to throw a check down or throw it away. Instead
of going, you know, getting out of your progression too quickly,
trying to make that superhero play, and then you get
in trouble and then we cast some turnover.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
It was always fun this season to hear like the
rumors and reports of what GM or coach was at
cam Ward's games trying to prepare for the NFL Draft.
We always know that there was a GM or a
coach at this guy's game. Shaudur sanders well because of
his dad oftentimes.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
But what does should Dour bring to the table.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Yeah, Shador is the most complete quarterback in my opinion
in this draft. He has the poise, he's calm, he's cool,
he's collected. If you watch the tape, he never gets rattle.
He does a great job of going through progression. He
knows his limitations. He knows he's not going to take
off and hurt you with his feat. He is not
a dual threat quarterback. He can take off and pick
up a first down if needed. But he does such
a great job of not panicking going through progression. And
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he took a lot of hits at Colorado forty three sacks.
Colorado gave up a year ago, which was one hundred
and twenty six in college football, mind you, there's one
hundred and thirty three teams, so they strug in protecting him.
Now where he can help himself with some of that,
and he can be a little bit of the issue
as he does get off off his spot when he
drops back, and what I mean by that is he'll
drift a little to the right, he'll drift a little
to the left. You wantnecessarily close a gap with your
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right tackle with your left tackle. Your offensive lineman will
tell you, I need to be at your launch point,
which is in the middle of the pocket, so that
I know that I can push a defender by you
can step up and make a play. And the other
thing I think he needs to work on sometimes is
knowing his limitations when he's on the run. Sometimes he'll
lose a little velocity when he throws the football trying
to whirl to his right roll to his left.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
He gets in trouble.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
You can't get away with those throws in the NFL,
and I had to learn that the hard way. Yeah,
in fall camp, even in rookie mini camp, those guys
will make those plays. But I think he's going to
continue to develop and he's going to be a top
quarterback in this year's draft.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
One of these next guys Peter covered a segment ago,
but his name is like all NFL at this point,
Jackson Dart already no matter where you go, you have
an awesome name and we love it. Two SEC quarterbacks
that you want.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
To talk about, Yeah, Jackson Dart. That was Peter brought
it up. He was at USC. I wish we were
able to keep him at USC, but obviously he went
to all mess with Lang kip In, one of my
old coaches, and he excel at the highest level.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Peter said exactly.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
What I was thinking and what I've been saying about
Jackson Dart this whole process. He can have a bow
Knicks type of a sind in this draft right last
year and Peter's defense, we were giving him a hard
time yesterday. Why was bow Knicks not in your top ten? Well,
that's because at this point, and I'll put my hand up,
no one had bow Nicks inside their top ten, top twenty.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Maybe even top thirty.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
The age thing was a factor, was his game in
a transition to the NFL.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Same thing with Jackson Dart a little bit. They didn't
call it for a while.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
But if he can go out there and crush the combine,
crush the interviews, which I know he will with Lang
Tiffin in the offensive mind that he is, he can
really jump up some of these draft boards, and like
Peter said, I would be surprised if we see him
as a high end potentially middle of the first round
draft pick when it's all said and done. The other
guy from the SEC for me, as Quinn Ewers, we
forget how talented he is because of the controversy this
year in Texas a strange year, and he got hurt,
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he went out, he struggled a little bit.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Arch Manning comes in, they.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Go back and forth, and there's some controversy about take
Quinn out. You could see him lose his confidence right
when I know what quarterback loses their confidence is when
they get a little bit of a trigger shot, right.
They don't want to pull the trigger. They hesitate, They're
not going through their progression quite as quickly as they can.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
They're worried about forcing the throws. They don't want to
make that mistake.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
If Whenewers can get back to the confident type of
player we've seen from him in years past, I really
think he can jump up and fight with Jackson dark
for that third overall spot.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
All right, that's really cool.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
A couple more quarterbacks, I don't know, dark horse guys,
sleeper guys. There's a bunch of kind of cheesy terms.
But that doesn't mean that we're not going to want
to be paying attention to them on Saturday because we
might hear their names or we will hear their names at.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
The end of April.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, I'm so right now, rit four. I was fighting
with myself where to go? I went five A, five B,
five seats, right, you know, normally to one segment.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I know.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
But the dark horses, for me, guys that I think
are going to be in that fifth spot, they can
pentionally be their first one from you is Will Howard.
If he continues to have the progress that he's had
at the end of the season they shore that he
did have at the end of the season going on
to win the national championship. He can really do that
and I'm excited to watch him take that to the
next level.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
We also learned under Chip Kelly. Yeah, so if the
Raiders at.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
That sixth spot, maybe don't take a quarterback, don't trade up.
Could they find Will Howard in later rounds. It's yet
to be seen. But what he did so well in
something Drew Brees made a living of was being accurate
and knowing and trusting the playmakers around you. I didn't
have to do too much. I'm going to get the
ball to the playmakers around me and let them do
the rest. As an offensive coordinator, I love that because
he's not going to.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Put the ball in harm's way.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
He's going to be accurate, throw those drag routes, throw
those over routes, and let your receivers and your playmakers
do the rest. The next guy for me is Jaln Milroe.
He is, in my opinion, one of not only as
a quarterback, one of the best athletes in this draft.
Now the question mark is where do you put him?
Where's he going to get drafted, Where's he going to
fit in? He is last consistency a little bit as
a thrower. He'll make some throws when you watch the
tape and I went back watched a couple of his
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games where you see one of you goose that's a
NFL Sunday level throw. He can make that throw. Then
I'll come back and have a couple that he misses
with his footwork being off, not cleaning up, his pocket
presence a little bit, a little quick to take off
and run. So if he can clean up all those
things and become a little bit better of a pocket passer,
I really think he can jump up. And I've seen
some draft boards that have him around that two three spot.
I'm not surprised with that.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
They're just a big hit.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
But if he can develop and take that next step,
and then the last guy for me and I think
helped his draft stock the most this year was Colin
McCord from Syracuse, right, and then.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Kind of took some of that pressure off him.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
He was a little bit of a forgotten name leaving
Ohio State, going to Syracuse, not playing in the Big Ten,
and not really on that national stage a whole lot.
When you put the tape on his arm is as
good as anybody, yeah right now in college level. It's
just he got overshadowed a little bit being a Syracuse
And then when you watched that Bowl game, he made
a huge statement in that game saying, hey, I'm still here,
I can fight for that this spot. I can be
a top five quarterback maybe a Day two pick. I
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can fight in that second and third round. But if
he continues to take advantage of this offseason, of this
pre draft period, those are three guys for me, they
could fight in that fifth spot. And look, I don't know, Peter.
I'd love to hear your opinion because I can't remember
in recent history, and I went back and looked at
some of the drafts after one and two, and I
guess Dart can maybe fit in that third spot. But
after that, I am just I'm lost. Right now, we're
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to put four, five, six, and seven. I'll go out
to the seventh guy. So I'd love to hear your
guys in opinion. But those are my thoughts on those guys.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Yeah, look, a couple of years ago, there was no
quarterback taken in the first nineteen picks. Can he Pickett
win at number twenty? And then it was like, okay,
we'll LEVI a second round. Maybe we've had years like this. Look,
kim Ward is an elite prospect, Shador Sanders is Dart
we think might go first round. But you just mentioned
three different names that are going to be able to
impress people this weekend Saturday when they're competing. I will
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ask you about a player though, which comes with a
lot more than just the player and the skill. Shador
Sanders obviously, Dion Sun feel like it's a sensitive topic
when anyone criticizes or puts a flaw out on his name.
I've seen people say he's a second round prospect to others.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Saying they like him more than cam Ward.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Objectively, you get to watch these guys, Cody, what do
you think on Shador Sanders the football player, but also
the total package that comes with him, knowing that he
is Deon's kid, and who knows there might be more
that comes with that.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Yeah, Shador is by far the most intriguing quarterback prospect
in my opinion in this draft. Because I'm with you,
I can see and I can understand him being a
second round pick, but I can also understand him being
the first quarterback taken off.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Of the board. And what I said earlier was that
him being.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
The most polished quarterback in my opinion, is just a
pocket passer, right, A guy that can sit there and
throw a whole shot, or throw a bendor route right
that over cover too and throw it over the middle.
A guy that can go through progression, the guy that
can protect the football. He knows what it takes to
have pressure in his face standing there and make those throws.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
And normally when you're.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Drafted higher up, you don't have the luxury of going
to a team with a solidified offensive line. That's one
of my former Trojans, Taylor Williams, about that. He took
some hits this year. But the thing for me, Peter
that I think is going to separate him the most
is that when he went to Colorado, and I know
everyone talks about Travis him, which they absolutely should. He's
a phenomenal player, but Colorado isn't where they are today
without Shador Sanders at quarterback. I truly believe that he
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knows what it takes to turn a program around, and scouts,
you're going to look at that and say, okay, well
you're going to a team getting drafted as high as
you can be that is struggling right now, that needs
a turnaround. He knows how to go there and face
adversity and get Colorado like you know, or get Calido
to where it is today when he left. I think
he can do the same thing in the NFL. Give
him the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Obviously, Cody.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
I identified a quarterback notting Fighten, Irish quarterback that I
really like him, Riley Leonard. Tell me what about Oh
what about Riley's Riley Leonard's game transitions well over to
the NFL, And what are things that he could work
on that can help him improve himself as a quarterback
and maybe maybe be behind Sightka.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Why isn't he on your list?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
I was about to say, I'm glad you went there,
because I was. As soon as you said Riley Leonard,
I was like, why is he not on your list?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
For me?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Right now? Manti?
Speaker 6 (24:23):
I saw him playing person. He is a phenomenal athlete.
I don't think he gets enough credit as a dual
threat as a runner. You know him and Jeremiah love
the running back in Notre Dame. They came to the
coliseum and ran all over us, and he's just such
a great He has great pocket presence, but he knows
when to take off and he knows when to throw
it right. He's not just sitting there and all right,
I'm gonna take off and run after my first reads
out there. He does a great job of that. He
just seems to develop as a passer for me, and
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that starts with this footwork.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
If he can get.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Better with, you know, throwing in rhythm, three hitch step,
up standing rhythm, going through progression.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Don't you know when you're a quarterback and.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
You start panicking a little bit, you start going your
feet before your eyes and what that means is is
my feearre going over the place and I don't know
what I'm reading. If you can go is to one right,
then ises of two feet follow and you're comfortable in rhythm,
which something that I think he can develop the right
way in the right place, he can be a very
good quarterback.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
But if he can get that down and.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Improve on that, I don't see why you won't be
a starter one day, or even a solid backup in
the NFL with you know, the potential to become a starter.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Cody is really good stuff. I'm just laughing because you
told us yesterday like I had to decide between coaching
and doing television, and you're crushing the television thing. Well whatever,
you just said, eyes to one, eyes.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
To two feet fallow.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I was like, Okay, maybe you can also coach.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
On the side a little bit.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
It's the old saying of eyes before feet right. You
can't throw what you can't see. You can't throw to
what you can't see. I always tell my young quarteras.
I used to actually train some younger quarterbacks back in
Bigger so I went back and helped out. But I
always tell him, if I'm a right hand or throwing
to the left, I'm not just going to swing my
feet and throw it.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
There is proof in the pudding. You've got to go
through progression. You've got to trust what you see.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
My eyes are at one, I just go to two,
then I reset as a three reset, then I make
the throw, and then I move on. I should have
done with the football out there. I could have got
into the hole fire and the hips and yeah, back
drill and all of that.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
But then those young guys just look at Patrick Mahomes like,
but he's not.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
He's thrown the things he can't see.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
He does it.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Why can't I?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Sorry, Patrick Mahomes is the as.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
Yeah, guys, if you know anything about me, you know
that my blood runs blue and gold. But there was
a time where I used to rep the cardinal end gold.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well, yesterday we found out that Cody here.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
Being a USC quarterback, used to root for the Irish.
Speaker 10 (26:23):
So what we're gonna do today was there gonna make
play a little game, a big on if, a big
what if. Disclaimer, we love our schools, okay, but this
is a great three on three game where I'm gonna
I'm gonna state three players that I watched growing up,
three USC players, and Cody is gonna do his three
top notre dame players that he watched growing up. So
for me, number three on my list now it's I
(26:45):
don't know how Cody's gonna beat this guy. His name
is Junior Seau now Junior Seou in the Polynesian culture,
in the Saomo and household, was one of those guys
that we just watched. He was one of the pilgrims here,
was one of the pioneers, that guy that blaze the
trail for a lot of people like me.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I watched Junior Sau growing up.
Speaker 9 (27:02):
I heard about him at USC office watching his Hall
of Fame career.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
In San Diego with the Chargers.
Speaker 10 (27:08):
He is somebody that when you think about football, when
you think about linebacker, when you think about greatness, it's
it just comes hand in hand.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
With Junior Sales. So that's my number three I'm going
to pass it over to Cody. Cody, I don't know
how you're going to top that, but who's your number three.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
I'm sticking with defense as well.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
But the first thing I will say before I get
into that another disclaimer for me. I am Cardinal and
gold all the way. Fight on. Please Trojans do not
come for me on Twitter. I promise you. I came
to my senses. They're going to ended up going to
USC So this is in the past before you know.
I became a Trojan. But I'm going defense. So I'm
going Tom Zivikowski I was and two and one will
make a little bit more sense about how I got
to know Tom Zvikowski watching him, But he was such
(27:45):
a fun player to watch. He played safety. He also
took punts back. He was part of the reason that
I wore that three bar face mask. I threw a
visor on it as well. For those who don't know,
I played a little safety back in high school. I
played a little safety back in middle school as well.
Had the hitting end of the week t.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Shirt, Manti.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
You would like to know that I got came out
there and laid the wood on one of the hits
and got one of the T shirts they sent me
from the whole town Bakersfield Sports. But yeah, I'm going tons.
Zibakalsio on number three. Also a great boxer. Great, we'd
go out there and tear it up on the field
and then go beat you up in the parking lot
after if he said.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Some stuff great boxer game there there's a picture of
him at noted game. We have this thing called Bengal
Bolts where you can go ou there and box, and
Zibio is one of those guys that would participate in
the Bengal Bolts a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Great. That's round one.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Number two.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
The guy who really changed for me college football and
football in general, in my opinion, the greatest college football
player in the history of college football, Reggie Bush. Reggie
Bush to me when I saw this man play, I
remember watching him when he came to Hawaiian and they
played the University of Juii Adaloha Stadium, and I watched
him live. I was probably the only Hawaiian in the
(28:48):
sea of green T shirts that was wearing the cardinal
and Golden.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I was at that game right there too.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
By the way, he is just somebody that growing up
helped me to dream bigger and watching him in.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
All of his highlights.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
We talked yesterday about the Fresno State game, how iconic
that was so for me. Number two on my list
was Reggie Bush. Now I always like, man who's number
one after Reggie?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But before we.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
Get to number one on my list, Cody, who do
you have is number two on your list?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
I'm going to quarterback here. This is where we started
getting quarterback heavy. I'm going with Brady Quinn at number two, right,
and I watched again number one. Will makes sense about
how I know these older guys. This is a little
bit before I got to high school, in my time.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
And growing up a little bit.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
But Brady Quinn was a guy I went to watch
Brady Quinn as well live in the colseume at that game.
I watched him play a little bit at Notre Dame.
A lot of fun to watch a quarterback that I
like to model my game. After a little bit, you know,
ended up going in the draft.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
We both went to Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
We had a little bit of a shared experience there,
but Brady Quinn was my number two, a guy that
I liked watch, right, you know, being a quarterback someone
that I looked up.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
To a little bit.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Now, Brady Quinn. I love Brady Quinn. I mean that
guy at two thousand and five. I mean we talked
about the bush push.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
He was.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
He was a quarterback for a Notre Dame during that game.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
And he's just somebody that.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
Really helps the Notre Dame athletes financially, helps him to
see life beyond football.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
So you know, shout out.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
To Brady all right, last, but not least, Now, this
guy I have a personal relationship with. He's He's a
big brother of mine. Actually named my son after him.
It is the one, the only Troy Polamalo, Troy Polamalu.
You know the hair, you know all all of the fantastic,
iconic plays that he's made as a Steeler.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I've watched this guy make plays since he wore the
cardinal and gold.
Speaker 9 (30:22):
His humility about him, just who he is as a person,
what he means, what he means to his his his kids,
as a father. He's everything I hope to be in
a man, And before I even knew him personally, I
hope to be him.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
As a football player.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
So I had to end it off with Troy Polamalu.
I love Troy, and I'm excited to see who your
number one is, Cody, Who's your number one?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I gotta say that real quick though, Troy, Paula mal
So I played you know, Kennedy Paulamlo. I think that's
his uncle, correct, Ye played for coach Paula Malo.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
He was one of my favorite coaches.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
He was he had that hard nose attitude about him,
a running back coach. I spent a lot of time
with him as a quarterback when we were there at USC.
But my number one, a good friend of mine to
this day, is quarterback Jim. And now it makes sense
a little bit. Let me tell the backstory. When I
was in middle school, right, you'd always look at those
rivals dot Com and ESPN. Who was the top guy?
Who was the highest rated quarterback? Jimmy classon was that dude, right?
(31:15):
He was the guy that everyone looked up to. He
wore the headband. And I don't even if he knows
the story. I'll send him this and he's probably gonna
get a kick out of it. But he wore the
head band in high school. So then I started wearing
the head band and took it to my high school.
They still wear it to this day there and they
call it the Cody headband. They don't know that I
got it from Jimmy. Now they do. But Jimmy Warden
in high school, iighly as a guy. I thought he
was just he was a guy that I wanted to be.
I wanted to be the number one quarterback in the
recruiting class. I wanted to be, you know, that guy
(31:36):
that came up and was going to get to go
to Notre Dame, right or have all these offers. Unfortunately,
Notre Dame actually never offered me. So man, Tau, you
can talk to them about that. But ended up going
to USC. But yeah, I know, shout out to him.
I've got my guy, Jimmy Closs and so I talked
to him this day. I just saw him with the
Notre Dame USC game this year. Loved the dude. He's awesome.
But yeah, that was what really started me, or what
really started my fandom of becoming a Notre Dame fan.
(31:58):
And that's how I got to know Brady Quinn because
at the time I knew Jimmy was going to Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
So I went and watched.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Quinn was a quarterback then and then also, Tom Zbikowski
is back there hitting people in returning punts.
Speaker 10 (32:07):
I love it, brother, what a great game. Let's let's
let's turn over to the screen. Let's see our picks.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
How we stack up against each other.
Speaker 10 (32:14):
Obviously I got Junior say Oh number three, Reggie number two,
Troy number one, Cody, you have Zibby, Brady Quinn number two,
and Jimmy Clauson.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
So what a game? Now?
Speaker 9 (32:25):
Before we start, Now, before we go to sister Jamie,
can we switch sides.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Yeah, to be clear, let me be clear before before
the Notre Dame Irish come after me too. I'm not
saying top three Notre Dame players of all time. These
were the Notre Dame players we need to become a fan.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, we watched.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
I don't want anyone to come out here.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
I saw your face and you couldn't have your mic boat.
There was one name, I think it was Abakowski. When
he hit Toms of Bakowski, you were like.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yes, that was awesome.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
I mean and also went to the Ravens and was
like a punt returner who never called for a fair catch,
just wanted to pain, wanted to just take every Zibakowski
was like.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Notre Dame in that era.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
I want to ask both these guys if I say
a name. This is so deep cut, but like it says, like,
what do you got on matt Levechio? What do you
got on Matt Levechio? Can you give me anything?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
This was a Notre Dame quarterback my generation, my.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Race to Peter's generation.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
This was this was like the number one prospect. He
was the quarterback of Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
There.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
But when you start going down the list of names
like Jimmy Clausen and you go down and you start
talking Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
There is a golden era of Notre Dame quarterbacks. Lovecchio
was in there as well.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
All right, can we do a little memory tracer to
November twenty fourth, twenty twelve, the only time Mantai and
Cody were on the field at the same time. You
did not play in this game, but there is a
I don't want to, I don't want to make fun
of Max Wittek, but like, what was going on.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
That day that helped you out? Yeah? So so Max
and I are still good friends. Love the guy.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
It's one of those things, those awkward things in college, right,
you guys, we both sat behind Matt Barkley.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Okay, hung out a lot.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
When Matt left, we got into an open quarterback competition
that actually got hurt that year. So Max Whitty goes
in and we're playing against Notre Dame. I told Manti
jokingly that he picked off witting in that game. So
he helped me in an open quarterback competition the following offseason.
And then, like I said, Max is a great guy.
We're good friends. But yeah, I know it was. It
was awesome and wish we got thee we got to
play that game. I had to wait another year to
(34:19):
become the starter, but yeah, I looked up the Mantai
as well.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
As a player at Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
I was again, always a diehard Trojan I always will
be forever. But there is a little soft spot in
my heart for the Notre Dame firing Irish because it
kind of got me into football.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
A little bit.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
And the big part of that was Jimmy Clauston.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
We're entering blue blood's territory with March Madness next month,
but these two schools definitely blue bloods category when it
comes to college football. Good job you too, Cody Cluster
manthideo Here, a.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Stringer with the what was that guy?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Matt I got one more honorable mention Jeff some margin,
Jeff
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah No,
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