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December 4, 2024 40 mins

Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with Thursday Night's matchup of Packers/Lions.  Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Peter Schrager, and Akbar Gbaja-Biamila discuss how important this matchup wil be.  Whiteboard Wednesday asks about favorite rivalries and special talents.  Plus, is there a right answer for the Ravens while watching Justin Tucker struggle?

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, this is Good Morning Football.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Hello everybody.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
Oh No, we'll talk. I know I'm a little too tipper.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
On a Wednesday, December fourth, this is Awkward Boxbymila, Peter Suger,
Kyle Brandt.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
I'm Jamie Ardell Kyle. What's the problem.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I just like took it to a ten with the
joyfulness of GM today.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Here, Yeah, to talk about it.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
Ahead, don't look like I'm like out of the tanning bed.
I'm not.

Speaker 6 (00:49):
I just feel pretty flush right now. And Kyle's wearing blue.
We look like a political, uh political ad that says,
go vote America.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
We're red, white and blue over here. It's very great.

Speaker 7 (00:58):
Or it could be bloods and crips, whatever, however you
want to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Who cares? Hi can't go there from Crenshawn La. Peter's
from Jersey, from the suburbs of Chicago. We don't talk
about I don't even.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Talk Jets and Sharks. I don't even mess like that.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Only jetson Giants. Well you guys look great. Do you
guys see that thing? I was going around the internet
the other day.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
It was like a.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Picture of Blake Bortles with the Jags and Marcus Marioto
the Titans, and there's like, people don't realize that not
long ago on Thursday Nights.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
True, this was the only matchup we.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Had for seventeen weeks straight in the Colour roastersy just
those two teams that they are. How far we have
come to Thursday Night of this week it's Packers Lions.
Packers are two games behind Detroit for the top of
the division in the NFC North. Peter, let's take our
first pass around this game. What do you look at
when it comes to this NFC North battle.

Speaker 6 (01:49):
I don't know if you guys feel it where you
are in LA, and we kind of feel it in
New York.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
But I have a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Who live in the Detroit area and at eleven and
one and atop the NFC, there is a feeling of
oh no, no, no, no, not now, not now? Don't
I sense it? It happened at the second half of
that Lions Bears game that this dream season might not
necessarily end with a Super Bowl parade. If things keep
on going this way, I'm not being a downer. I'm

(02:15):
going to go the other way and say, Lions fans,
this is the most important game yet, dig your head
out of the woe is me. Everyone's injured, things went
bad at the end. Let's see some highlights from the
end of this Bears Lions game and just flush it out.
Let you see that Chicago was able to move the
ball up and down the field while there was one
player injured after another, and you could sense it. You

(02:38):
could hear a pin drop in that Ford field at
the end of his game. And you could also sense
it on the sports radio in Detroit this week. And
if you read the blogs and if I went down
a dark, dark hole on Reddit where it was Lions
fans saying like, why does this always.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Happen to us?

Speaker 6 (02:54):
Why don't do this now? Lions fans? The Lions need
the fan base more than ever this week. They're home,
They're eleven and one, and a victory over the Paths
almost gives them that full three game lead and a
sweepover Green Bay.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
The facts are there.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Taylor Decker didn't practice, Levi did not practice. Josh Paskell
did not practice. DJ Reider didn't practice. We don't know
about Carlton Davis and Emanuel Moseley. We're hoping, and like
head Dan Campbell, he doesn't seem overly optimistic about getting
Pascal back. We saw those injuries at the end of
that game. I just think the storyline right now is
that momentum has been all in the Lion's favor, and

(03:35):
all we've talked about is the Lions. And on Thursday,
the entire nation got to sit on their couch and
watch two NFC North teams play, and they saw the
Lions almost fall apart at the end of their game,
and they saw the Packers just kick the snot out
of the Dolphins in their game. Right now, it is
the Lions division to lose.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
But I could.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Feel this thing shifting, and I'm looking at Lions fans.
They're going to need you Thursday night.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
There can't be this fear of the mighty Green Bay Packers.
There has to be we are the team that's charge
here because I think the fan bas is gonna play
a huge raw, and I think if we get to
January in the playoffs, home field advantage is enormous forget
Green Bay because Philadelphia is right there too.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Damn, Peter, you got me.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Pumped up for this.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
This is this is Thursday night football.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I'm gonna say it one more time.

Speaker 7 (04:22):
This is Thursday night football. And it's the main event
for Thursday. But it's not only the main event. It's
the main event because the Lions offense is just that
they're the main event offense because they have to lethal
running backs the main event. You've got Aman Round, Saint Brown,
David Montgomery, Jared Goff, these guys. They have one of
the most if not prolific offense in the NFL right now.

(04:46):
You look at what they're doing, and it's all because
of Ben Johnson in this play action that they utilize.
And it's because these running backs. If you don't have
a legitimate running back that can really threaten the run game, yeah,
guys are just gonna stack the box. But when you
get a dynamic running back like a Montgomery who can
just down here running straight down just like you're witnessing,
and and you get a Jamiir Gibbs who you can
utilize on the outside, that makes it very challenging. Now

(05:09):
I look at the Packers defense, and the Packers defense
they're gonna have their hands full with this, right, They're
gonna have their handful because these guys are putting out
and crushing out yards. But when I look at the
last couple of games for the Green Bay Packers, they've
stopped running backs. They've not allowed more or excuse me,
they had less than fifty yards per roun. They've given
up less than fifty yards per run. So I'm looking

(05:30):
at that excuse me, per game, and I'm looking at this,
I'm going, yo, these guys could stand up, they could
beat them up. But Peter, to your point, you were
talking about the health of this Lions team. The Lions team,
they were banged up, and I think that's why we
didn't seve their best output. And that does rattle anybody.
Think about it like this. You ever stubbed your toe
or you have like a batman and you're just everything

(05:52):
else shuts down. That's what they were going through when
they were going against the Chicago Bears. Things started to
shut down. We didn't see the overall production, but ultimately
the main event was just too powerful. And of course
we saw that whole time out to back debacle, right
that allowed them to win this game. But I like
the way that these running backs typically helped set up
this offense and help their wide receivers in this play

(06:13):
action offense, Peter, is it possible.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
The reason you have a little paranoia, a little nerves
about the Lions because you listen to the end of
that Lions game on the radio, is that it Peter
was listening on the old fashioned like FM radio would want.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Jason Bennetti and Ryan Leaf and those guys.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
They were narrating this game, and you felt as if
it was the Lions from nineteen ninety two or nineteen
ninety three and it.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Wasn't their fault. I could hear it in the crowd, Kyle.
There was a sense of doom and gloom. And I'm
not putting that on there.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
I'm not putting that out there because they're eleven in one,
but you speak to it like this Lions fan base,
they've been hardened and coursing.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
And Dan Camp.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
But there feels to be a shift here in the
public perception of how this NFC North is going.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Why were you in the fetal.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Position listening to the radio call on Thanksgiving Day of
that game?

Speaker 5 (06:58):
What was it?

Speaker 6 (06:59):
Why were you like that we were driving to Grandma's
house to go right, we're in the car.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Cool. Yeah you were riding you weren't hear the dri driver? Yeah,
of course. If it was on one of those blade choppers,
thatt you in it. I would say to the Lions fans,
calm TF down. I told you that game against the
Parish is gonna come out of the wire. I said
it all week. They've always it's do you know that
before that game they won twenty four to six and
fifty two to six. Like, guys, it's okay, And here's

(07:27):
the deal. The other thing for the Lions, it's Green
Bay right now, then it's Buffalo, and then it's at Chicago.
You're probably gonna lose one of those games. I don't know.
You might lose a couple of them. That's just those
are tough opponents. You're not gonna go sixteen in one.
I don't think that's gonna happen. This one's gonna be
heated as hell. Though. If you lose this one, fine,
I just I want to get into one specific dynamic
of this game. Bring up the image. This this is

(07:47):
what I'm looking forward to, because God, this is fun.
Just bring it up, you know, what I want. That's
my man. Now, that's all I'm on rad that's the
Star wide receiver with zero point zero subtlety whatsoever. Rolling
into Green Bay and Lambeau saying green Bay sucks. He
didn't even have the dignity to put a space between
Green in Bay, he said, after what we're like? I
like trolling. I don't care. I like the troll. It's

(08:09):
not about the fan, it's about the rivalry, the fan
base whatever. So this week, of course, you go to
Xavier McKinney, who was one of these guys who guards
on Monroe and point blank, hey, the Lions are gonna
play you guys again. What'd you think of that T
shirt that a Mona wore last week? Go ahead, thanks,
brok that green Bay sucks shirt less time? Who's that
just something silly? O cares or something to kind of?

(08:30):
I don't worry about him. We're not worry about him.
See I love that. It's simple, it's point blank, it's blunt.
I don't care about him. I don't worry about him.
In fact is Lions. If you're worried right now, they've
won five of the last six against the Packers. A
Mona either scores or has many, many catches, and every
single he plays well against that team. Against the Packers,
enter McKinney, who's brought in. He's the new guy in town.

(08:51):
He makes a ton of money. You got to battle
against him. That's a great matchup. And I think there's
nothing wrong in this week where we're talking about unsavory
things about brawls and flag planting and late hits. The
Packers and Lions don't like each other. The dB for
the Packers doesn't like the wide receiver for the Lions.
The Lions says that the Lions receiver says the whole
town sucks. This is good, wholesome stuff. I like this stuff,

(09:13):
and they're gonna get after it. Listen, I'm gonna ride
the Lambeau leap in Lambeau that doesn't happen.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
They were a Lions fans to catch them.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
It was unbelievable and they fort beer all over him.
And like, guys, this is good wholesome rivalry crap talking.
It's fine. I hope that McKinney shows up to Ford
Field the shirt that says Detroit sucks and that thing
will sell off the charts. This is what we want.
This is why we like football. I'm waiting for this game, guys.
I love this matchup. McKinney Saint Brown, let's go.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
And Kyle, just to clarify, when you say calm TF down,
you meant calm Thursday.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Football down right. That means that you're telling them that
that's exactly right. That should be the slogan, the.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Wholesome approach to calm TF down. I love the word wholesome, Kyle.
The other one that pops up when you talk about
these two teams and the players and the coaches evolved
is just everyone seems very un bothered. I think of
something that's happening in my house right now with my
middle child, my middle daughter, three and a half years old.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
She is so unbothered.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
My choice curseword if I stub my toe, it rhymes
with cheese. Its so so my middle one constantly asked me, Mom,
why are you always saying cheese it out loud? I'm like,
that is what I'm saying, just wanting to clarify with you.
But also she has now started to use my curse word,
like if she like bumps into a wall, she says

(10:35):
cheese it. It's like the perfect she says it so perfectly.
I'm like, I really got to take that word back
out of your mouth.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
I didn't mean for that to happen.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
My three and a half year old was so unbothered
by just saying cheese. It's in front of everybody, like,
crash your bike, jes its, that's how. That's what's happening
in my house right now. So I look at Matt Lafleur,
who looks at Jamir Gibbs showing play calls for the Lions.
He's like, it's not really a problem, it's overrated. He's unbothered.
Dan Campbell unbothered. All the players that called just friends unbothered.

(11:05):
They just are like, we're going to go into this
NFC North matchup and.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
Just say yeah, they're the chief heads, so they're gonna
probably cheat.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Say right, yeah, that's easy, right, Peter, what's up?

Speaker 5 (11:13):
I would just I love that story and I think
reason them right.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Cheats.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
It are delicious.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Guy's got a birthday coming.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
I actually like a white cheddar cheese it. I'll go
that way too, pretty good. I like all kinds. I
will say this.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
My good friend Todd, who texts me all the time
about NFL whatever, He has a great line and says,
you never want to be the team that peaks in
October and November.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Lions take that to heart.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
You never want to be the team that peaks in
October and November, and.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
You don't want to be the team that Kyle says
you're very wholesome, and then you.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Don't do anything with that in January.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
You want to be nasty and you want to be inappropriate.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
That's what the Lions are. Okay, Thursday Night Football Calm
t F Down.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Ian Rappaport, Good morning to you, Welcome inside, one day
away from this massive NFC North showdown. What are we
looking at as we head into this be game.

Speaker 8 (12:02):
Let's take a look at some of the key injuries
for what is a awesome, awesome Thursday night game. We
will start with the Green Bay Packers. Josh Jacobs popped
up on the injury report this week with a calf injury,
and for running backs that could be a little warriorsome,
But for Jacobs, he's actually dealt with this in the past.
The season seems to be more nagging than anything else.
That's a shore week, they barely practice, so him being

(12:22):
listed is limited doesn't seem to be cause for concern.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Let's see how this cap responds.

Speaker 8 (12:28):
If he's able to be a full participant today, but
as of right now, not something to.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Get all worked up about.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
Romeo Dobbs missed last week with a concussion. One of
the really good young receivers. He's been a limited participant
on Monday and Tuesday. If he's able to advance through
the nfo's concussion protocol to be a full participant today,
then likely he will be able to play on Thursday.
Maliford said, we'll see about his availability and we will
see today. Meanwhile, the Detroit Lions defense especially really.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Really banged up.

Speaker 8 (12:58):
That has been one of the big time stories of
THEIRS over the last couple weeks. Signed a couple of
guys off practice squad, off the scrap heat. It has
been rough for this defense. We'll start with Levi and
Luza Rique. He's dealing with a hamstring injury. Minunderstanding is
week to week, has not practiced yet this week, not
looking good for his participation. Zach Pascal dealing with a

(13:19):
knee injury not considered to be major, but again hasn't
practiced this week. Not good there, and the DJ reader
same situation. Also need also no practice looking for some
really key players on this lies defense who may not
be on the field for this huge game.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
All right, rap Sheet appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
We all know that Penny Stowel won the Angry Run
scepter yesterday. There's a really awesome article out about the
Detroit Lines Penny stool his upbringing in American Somoa and
how he was playing football young age with a coconut.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Okay, go check it out if.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
You want to have even more insight into Thursday night,
rap Sheet talked to you.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
A little bit. We go from Angry Runs review to
the debut.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Of this week's rookies who showed out in Week thirty
Peter Dabbling.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
In Fab five. His list is ever so wholesome.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Yes, Bucky Irving, did you make it?

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Did he make the list or did he not? Well?
Explain I heard him?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Who was telling Jim rom yesterday He grew up watching
slow motion Barry Sanders highlights of that and that's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Plus, all right, so Eli and Tom, these two wiley
old chuckleheads, they're busting chops on social media. They had
quite the rivalry, if you can even call it that
to this day, what is your favorite rivalry in sports
and life? Peter's gonna talk politics. It's right after this.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Good morning football.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
What's happening everybody?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
It's time for Whiteboard Wednesday. Let everybody get out your
markers and your racers and your artist hat if you
want to, as we inspector question on Whiteboard Wednesday, here
we go.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Up.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Bar went to three games in one day this past weekend.
This is my map of Western New York and to
New York, New Jersey and down to Baltimore. Because that's Awkwards.
Did he actually went Metlake Stadium, down to M and
T Bank Stadium up to Buffalo to watch the Sunday
night game? So Week fourteen, now we turned the page
on the three game Sunday experience for rock Bar.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
You have to pick one, Okay, okay, just it's not
a map.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
We're not going all around the Week fourteen game that
you would love to be a spectator.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
At, Peter is Jamie? You mentioned it.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
Thursday Night football used to be Blake Bortles versus Marcus
Mariota used to be the backup quarterback from the Chargers
taking on the backup quarterback from the Broncos. You know,
we're talking about the streamers coming and Amazon and Netflix
is doing Christmas. This used to be a game that
would be Sunday Night, Monday Night or a Fox CBS
big window. Amazon's maybe their biggest game ever. And I'd

(16:01):
say that was with great sincerity that this Packer's Lions
game that only means a lot.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
It is huge for the streamers.

Speaker 6 (16:08):
The fact that Amazon was gifted Packers Lions, two different
playoff teams from a year ago, our trivals in a
Week fourteen game back in April when they did the schedules,
I said it down.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
I'm like Amazon got a big one. They get Amazon
that game. The streamers are here, embrace it. This is here.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I can't wait. It's Tomorrow night and.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
It's the game of the week, unheard of Thursday night football,
Packers Lions.

Speaker 7 (16:32):
Let's go Okay, all right, I like that, And imagine,
just imagine for a second there was an upset here. Right,
I've got the Lions winning this game, But imagine if
there was an upset, the next interesting game then would
be Falcons versus the Vikings. Right, the Vikings are sitting
right behind there, behind the Detroit Lions. You know they

(16:52):
got ten wins on the season. But I think the
other interesting part of this is the fact that Kirk
Cousins Kirk Cousins coming into this game. You know, there's
a lot on the line with them right now, they're
tied for first in the NFC South. That situation. He's
played against this defense before. Where did you play against
his defense in practice he's had. He knows his defense
very well. He knows the defensive coordinator very well. So

(17:15):
even though they are very aggressive defense, he knows the personnel,
he knows the scheme. So he should have success in
this game. But it's still gonna be a very hard
game for the Alanta Falcons because this Bikings team is very,
very good.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Listen, the question is always when a guy goes back
to play against this former team, is he gonna get booed?
Is he gonna get it? Minnesota's very nice. I know
they're going to cheer for him. However, they really love him, Darnold.
I think they're gonna be very pleased with what's happening
in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Cow if we'd had done this segment, and I'm sure
we did when the schedule came out last year, and
we go through oh, pick one game that you think
is really gonna matter, and I'm sure we'll do it
next year too. Guys, we're picking Jets Dolphins. Let's go
right now. This is the game that I'm interested in.
Go on one pm CBS in Beeter. None of the
national televised stuff, none of them streamers. This is old fashioned.

(18:03):
It's just like, oh my god, what hell half rot,
what hell hath rot? Look at these two teams? What
became of you? The Jets are three and nine and
they're going down to Miami and they're like, well, they'll
sit Rogers. Rogers is like, no, I want to play
every single game. I have a Netflix documentary coming in
stream here, Kyle, you know what, You're right. They always

(18:25):
find their way in.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
It's an unbelievable thing, where like.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, it's Peter, this is this is not the Jets
backup quarterback versus the Dolphins backup courts. It's Tua Rogers,
it's McDaniel, it's whoever hell's I was still employed by
the Jets. I kind of want to watch this just
of a holy god game. I want to see what
shows someone has to win, right, I don't think it's
gonna be the Jets. So the documentary for Rogers Company's

(18:50):
got war paint on and he's chanting and he's doing
all this stuff. It comes out in thirteen days, so
that's two more Jets games from now. So has there
ever been a documentary about a three and eleven team? Ever?
It's the strangest dynamic. So I want to watch this
just for the crew factor. And I cannot believe, I mean,
do this game even go on? Like it's so irrelevant,

(19:10):
It's unbelievable. I can't believe what became of these.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Two interesting right, Peter.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
The irony is that Jaguars play Titans this week on
a Sunday. They're not in the Thursday night game, like
that is the matchup instead.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Of Packers exactly. You know, it hasn't changed.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Eli Manning and Tom Brady talking leave to each other.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Eli can't get it up.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
If you thought maybe the fire was fledgling, you know,
Eli came along and put some gasoline on it and
then Tom Brady fanned it with air. Between these two quarterbacks.
This goes back to their playing days. On Monday, Eli
took another shot and this time it was at a
shirtless Tom Brady photo because Brady posted this picture of like,
this is what I'm doing on my off days, and

(19:53):
then and then Eli said that's a nice minnow. But
look at this massive fish that I caught. And then
Brady replied with this, did you use your helmet to
catch that fish too?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
This is great? Oh everything there is perfect. It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
This leads to our question your favorite one on run rivalry,
whether it be Elion, tom or sports or otherwise.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Peter is what I love this.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
They could take it anywhere.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
So from a generation before me, Hagler Hearns was like
the rivalry and that was one that I've run, and
then before that it was Ali Fraser.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
But for me, growing up a kid in the nineties
when image.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
Was everything, I thought Agascy Sampris was the rivalry of
the nineties.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
I'm going men's tennis, folks.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
These guys played each other thirty four times in Grand
Slam tournaments, with the head to head Sampress winning twenty
to fourteen.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
And the two of them went back and forth.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Look in the nineties, Sampress was number one for two
hundred and eighty.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Six weeks and Agassy was for.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
One hundred and one weeks. These were two legends, and
they would always end up playing each other. Now in
the Grand Slam Finals, Sampress always had Agacy, I think
accidently beat Sampress once. But when you talk about two
different contrasting styles, Agassy.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Flash, long hair, the camera.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
The Nikes, Sampress a robot right out there, go in
there and take care of business. Two very different styles,
and they actually ended up being two great friends. I'm
going to say Agassy sanpris for me one of my
favorite rivalries. Different styles, different dudes, and yet Agassy was
so cool.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
So I know, well took you took me back to
the nineties. I mean, I remember all of that, and
in the nineties here in Los Angeles there was a
whole different type. We were at the peak of this
rivalry in Los Angeles. You live in La you know
usc UCLA rivalry. But just below that rivalry, there's this

(21:50):
rivalry called the Crenshaw High School and Dorsey rivalry. This
has been going on since forever. Actually started in the
late sixties when Crenshaw High School was built here in
Los Angeles. Dorsey had already been here. They had produce
stars like Sparky Anderson there. I am at Crenchulls. The
only photo of me playing high school football. Please don't
comment on my legs. I know my legs were very,

(22:12):
very skinny. That's because I was a basketball player. But
this rivalry had so much intensity. Everyone would come out
for it. We had police escorts. You had two schools
that were within a couple of miles from each other.
But these schools have produced some of the greatest athletes
and entertainers and lawyers and doctors.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
You can see here.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
Here's the list of the Crenchvill High School some of
the notable lums. My brother at the top there currently
right now for the Chargers. You got Diyone Henley playing there.
Brandon Mebane also played for the Chargers. De' Anthony Thomas,
the Black momb But Darryl Strawberry, you guys remember that
out in New York. Darryl Strawberry, Kevin Ali schoolboy, Q
you love music?

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Where's Eric Davis?

Speaker 7 (22:51):
Aaron Davis was over on this side, on the Dorsey side,
you see Keyshawn Johnson, Chillie Davis there at the bottom,
Nil Diggs, how about that for Dennis Northcutt and of
course currently right now playing Kaevon Thibodaux Kevon Thibodau went
to Dorsey High School for a couple of years. Then
he transferred. But he still gets it because he spent
two years at Dorsey High School. And but what a

(23:14):
rich tradition. If you come to Los Angeles, you ask anybody,
Boys in the Hood is the movie. But the Boys
in the Hood really are these guys here in the kiss.
There's Henry right now, outstanding linebacker for the Chargers, representing
my high school, Crenshaw High School, still putting it down,
top dog, top linebacker and tackler for the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Look at him, go look at that. Come on, now,
come on now.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
Put Crenshall back on the map. Let everybody say Crenshaw
Dorsey rivalry. Of course, Crenshaw has the most wins and
all of the rivalry wins in basketball, football, baseball. I'm
making up all the other sports as well.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
He leave me with no easy transition, acbar, there was
a deep dive. It's very layered. I just have to
do it bluntly. My favorite rivalry, Burt Reynolds versus Mark Summers.
The way I can go with this, guys, just hear
me out here. He is this Renald legendary movie star,
Mark Summers, legendary television host, doubled there at all, now

(24:09):
a legendary producer. Kids, this is what I want you
to do. In the commercial break, I want you to
go to YouTube and type in their two names. Burt Reynolds,
Mark Summers. They were on with Jay Leno way before
Leno fell down the hill and all that stuff used
to be. You'd have the a guest, which is Burt Reynolds.
He does his segment, and then in the second segment,
Mark Summers comes out. Burt Reynolds slides over, You shake
Leno's hand, You shake Burt Reynold's hand, and Mark Summers

(24:29):
is time to do his interview. Burt Reynolds felt like
just messing with him for the whole thing and belittling
him and taking shots at him, and Summers will fire back.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Commers punch back.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I've seen it. You gotta watch computers that. You gotta
watch this segment of Burt Reynolds, Mark Summers and Jay Leno.
It ends up with throwing pies at each other, taking shots,
mentioning wives. It is one hundred percent awkward from start
to finish. It's totally improbable. I promise you it is
worth the YouTube trip. It starts out Jay Leno's talking
Mark Summers. She's like, so, what tell us about these gags?

(25:00):
Youd do you like doing like the really messy ones?
And he goes, yeah, well we have. We had a
giant bat of five hundred gallons of big beans that
you jump into and then everyone kind of lasts runners.
It's like, yeah, I'm really sorry I missed that, and
everyone's just like ooh. Then they just start jabbing at
each other. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.
This is worth your YouTube time. Those are the names.

(25:21):
Just watch it. You will not believe what takes place.
I promise you to a great rivalry controunds. Rest in peace, Kyle.

Speaker 7 (25:27):
I did not know about this, And as you were
just talking about that, I literally just went here on
my Microsoft tablet here shout out to Microsoft, and I
just put Bert R and it was the first thing
that popped up.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Wow. I can't wait to watch his legacy, him fighting
a game show host. You gotta do it, Jamie commercial break,
you gotta do. I promise you, guys, I wouldn't waste
your time.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Reynolds ass Somers who told you that you were a
neatness freak, and Summers responded, my wife told me that.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
I'm still married. I'm in on this, Kyle. This is
like soap opera stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Commercial break can fight, and he was not afraid of Summers.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
I he is a Philly guy, Like he takes it
and he gives it, like, yeah, he's perfect.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
It's an awesome segment and I'm so proud of Mark.
Summer's wasted up until anyway.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Meanwhile, Kimmel's saying Matt Damon couldn't make it the show,
but like they're actually best friends, Like.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
I want this, I want this stuff all right.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
During Monday Night Football, we heard drey Eakman claim that
he could beat Jamis Winston in a foot race.

Speaker 9 (26:25):
Let's reveal Winston wouldn't have caught him either. He runs
a five flat forty. I think I think I could run,
I could beat him.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
Are you saying that you could beat.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Jamis in a sprint?

Speaker 9 (26:40):
Now or back back in the day the glory day?
Well in the in the day for sure. I tore
my hamstring a year ago at Berry's boot camp, and
I'll be darn. I mean that thing still has him
healed up and it hurts when I walked, So that's
why I said maybe.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
All right, Okay, longtime watches of our show know that
the third question of or Wednesday gets off the rails
a little bit. And I gotta say, of all the
whiteboard Wednesdays, is maybe top five most excited to hear
the answers to this following question.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Okay, oh boy, Peter off barnhile, let's go.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
What is the one thing that you feel like you
could do better than a current NFL player?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Peter?

Speaker 4 (27:21):
In our little.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Answer document last night, it was like, I'll come up
with something and then like that just got me fired up,
Like I cannot wait to hear what Peter has to say.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
This is going to be tremendous.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Okay, so you're going to hear what I say, and
you're originally gonna be like, of course you're talking about
nineteen eighties new wave or grunge music. There is a
skill that I have, and it is a It is
a part of a game called Name that tune. If
you drop even the first second of a song, I
can name you exactly the band and the song.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
But I don't want you at home to.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Look at me here with my reddish orange face looking
at you at the camera and say and say, oh, well,
he's only talking about Nirvana and Pearl Jaman, Third Eye Blind.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
No, you give me.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
The first beat of Squabble Up by Kendrick Lamar, I
will tell you that is squabble Up.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
If you give me the first beat of Shaboozies, a bar.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Song, I will tell you we're in the club getting tipsy.
I can go any song. It's a photographic memory with music.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
Jelly roll. Please, somebody saved me. You just give me
one time.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Hearing it on Sirious with Spider Harrison, the popular Spiders.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Spider Harrison, you knew it to me one time.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
You give me one time, and I.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Will remember the song and the artist.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
And it can be when in Rome the promise, or
it can be Miley Cyrus wrecking Ball anywhere. So I
could beat any NFL player and name that too. And
that includes hip hop rap in today's Top forty.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Let's get it.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
And you know, Peter, I can co sign.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
I can co sign on that because I remember when
I first got here to Good Morning Football. I think
I came at you sideways and I made some like
deep rep reference and you looked at me like, bar
don't you And you nailed there and I was like,
I was like, oh my bad man, and I backed off.
Since then, I ain't messed with you since man, so I.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Coach referenced Peter Gunns and Lord Tarik. Of course I'm
gonna have to come back you.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
He can do Peter guns and Peter Gabras, Peter gun
deal with Southbury Hills. There a show that like Nickola
Hosts or something where you can do there cannon. Yeah,
it's one of the knicks.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
All right, This one's gonna surprise you because I know
for a fact that no one in the NFL can
do this better than I can. This is something that
I have a passion for that I love because.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I am Patty certified.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
I am a scuba diver, so I can scuba dive
better than anyone in the NFL. I spend a lot
of time doing this. I'm an advanced scuba diver in
open water. I've gotten, you know, as far down as
one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty feet there.
I am in Fiji right there and just having a
good old time, just enjoying the nature.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
How does one say I'm better than you at scuba diver.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Because I do it.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
I mean you just deeper. I go deeper than you do.
I actually get in the water. There, I am doing
the karate kick right there. You remember the karate kid
right there?

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
Yeah, I've wrestled with an alligator. I've been tussled it well,
I've been thrown lightning in jail.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
So there it is.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I don't run out of oxygen.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Oc Bar in Fiji, compliments of his friends at Verizon.
I'm sure again, Okbar, Like I'm not in Fiji scuba
diving with an entire camera crew and a lighting everything.
But by the way, when this question came out, the
only thing you can do better than a current NFL player.
I thought Peter was just gonna write talk football. But

(30:42):
sure that's what Peter was going to Yeah, I will
take Listen. I understand that most NFL players are bigger
than me. Every NFL player at this point is stronger
than me. But still bring it groceries from the car.
I will take you out. I will take you down.
You could put eighty thousand pounds of groceries in the

(31:03):
back of my family automobile and I will get it.
In in one trip, and you might say, how could
you be better than that? At then Penny Sewel or
someone Jordan Mylatta. It's all about form, experience and reps.
The naive thing you do is you don't take. You
got to know when that load bearing bag is coming,
like the milk in it. If you can't put that

(31:24):
on your ring finger, you're gonna dislocate it. You got
to bring that down to the cruck of the elbows.
You can have a load bearing and then here is
where you do the bread or the lettuce, and you
get one on each finger. You get here you can
go in the two. Now, grocery wrangling is only half
the battle. You still have to have the upper body
strength and dexterity to close the hatchback unless you have
one of those fancy things like acbar where you swing

(31:46):
the leg underneath. And then if you're dumb, you didn't
pre plan and open up the door to get in
the house before you went, so it's already open. And
then once you get them there, and you got them
on all your fingers and all your toes and all
your teeth, then as you go through the threshold of
your home, you gotta do that that kick with.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Doors, and you're here and.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
You're right there. You kick the door closed, and then
you come in and you're in your teeth and you
set them down on the gun the encounter and it's
incredible and your wife is impressed and you're so strong,
and it's a full on aphrodisiac bonuses. Any NFL player
out there any off season, come find me at the
grocery store or the driveway and I will take you out.

(32:27):
It's an open challenge.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
Come on over ay b plastic or the little toe
bags from Trader Jones.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
First of all, I don't do those tote bags, not extra,
I recycled. Don't come at me plastic for sure, because
you can get more on the different. The paper is
going to break if you in those stupid dinky little handles.
It has one egg in it, it breaks away. Give
me the plastic. I don't care if it's destroying the world.
I hope it's not, but I'll go plastic every.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
Single I want to compete against you the next time
you're here in LA. We should just set up right
now in the field, and I actually think I can
beat you in this. I actually think I can take
more bags than you.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
I will carry groceries in while I'm scuba diving and
still take you out. It's fine. I've got and I'll
sing eighty songs for Peter. Yeah, you do it all. Yeah,
that's my thing.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Well.

Speaker 10 (33:08):
The Eagles riding an eight game winning streak, the second
longest active streak in the league, behind only the Lions,
but they have some questions on offense heading into their
Week fourteen game against the Panthers. NFL Network insider Tom
Piliso is reporting tight end Dallas Goddard is considered week
to week with a knee injury he suffered in last
week's win over the Ravens.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Tom adding the injury.

Speaker 10 (33:28):
Is its season ending, but he's not expected to play
on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Then.

Speaker 10 (33:33):
This past weekend, the Eagles hosting their NFL Flag Regional tournament,
seventy eight teams participating from various surrounding states and in
the youngest division, the EIGHTU Avengers, posting a total one
hundred and forty five points, only allowing one touchdown the
entire day of competition, they'll be the one team heading
to the championship representing the Eagles. Find a league near

(33:54):
you visit NFL flag dot com. Now we come back
Peter and Kyle. They got some beef they need to
get off their chest. You don't want to miss this
when GMPI returns.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
Good morning, Welcome back to GMFB. This second we call
What's your Beef? It's presented by our friends at Old Trapper.
We're back here in the big screen in New York.
How you doing, folks? And over here on the East Coast,
there's a lot of chatter down in our mid Atlantic
friends in Baltimore. Justin Tucker has been atrocious this season
in kicking field goals and last week missed two.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
And an extra point.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
The Ravens are on a vibe, and here's what John
Harbaugh had to say about his future Hall of Fame kicker.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
If you ask me if we're going to move on
from Justin Tucker, I'm not really planning on doing that
right now.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I don't think that'd be wise.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
Short and sweet from a former special teams coordinator himself,
Kyle I turned to you, you've a beef with Harbaugh
saying it wouldn't be wise to consider moving on.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
From Justin Tucker.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I don't know if I do or not. I'm sorry,
that's a bad answer. It's a fascinating topic because he
didn't just miss a in that game, like he lost
them the game. He missed three different kicks. He talked
about it afterwards. It's all my fault. This is almost
unheard of where you have this guy who is really
a part of the franchise, a valued member, really an icon,
but he's not helping the team, and any other team
would cut their kicker. I mean, I remember Mason Crosby

(35:21):
went through a really bad reference, really bad, and they're like,
you gotta cut me. He's been here so long, he's
part of what we do. And then Mason kind of
righted the ship, you know, as well as Idud. Peter
is going to become a playoff game and it's going
to be a fifty two yarder an outcomes Tucker and
he makes it or he misses it. After the bye,
if they play another game and he misses two more kicks,
do you cut them? I don't know. I don't know

(35:42):
what to do here, but you can't have a kicker
cost a New games, no matter how many has won
for you, and it's the.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
Next games in New Jersey. In those wins against the Giants,
so it's like, yeah, they're going to be the Giants,
but I think all eyes are going to be on
is Tucker going to make a forty five yarder in
the win? Because that's when we need you in the playoffs.
The eerie thing about this is that these are happening
at home too, so the home crowd, which is just
and I was usually like, go to the bathroom and
go to get your concessions. When Tucker's coming up on

(36:07):
a fourth and three, he's missed him. I watched Hard
Knocks last night the indivision and they show Harbaugh's face
after the last miss, the fifty yard or that he misses,
and Harbaugh is just stone cold, doesn't even say anything,
just doesn't flinch, just like now. We've had on their
assistant special teams coach Randy Brown last week, who works
with Tucker for seventeen years, the greatest kicker ever. They

(36:28):
love him there, and yet something is certainly awry. It
would be fascinating if they brought a young leg in
just in case and what that would do. Would it
motivate Tucker, would it shut him down? And would it
set the team apart or to some guys in the
locker room and say, hey, I only.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Get one chance in a ring. This might be our year.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
And if this guy's costing us games, can we least
consider another option.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
That playoff game the Ravens play in and has to
make a kick in might be against the Broncos for
all we know. Let's go to the Broncos. Because Bo
Nicks made a throw the other day that I said,
this reminds me this kind of low hovering for a
past It was this long, It was so low. It
wasn't the moon ball, it was just a laser. It
reminded me of technical ball back in the day when
you could drop your quarterback back sixty yards and he
would throw this hoof pass that never gets above six

(37:09):
yards in the air. Looked really really cool. On that note, Peter,
you're revenue, You're firing up the tech bo Bowl, Techno
super Bowl, techmo Og whatever. Who is your go to team?

Speaker 5 (37:18):
I was the Techno super Bowl player.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
I loved the techmo bil But once I went to
the full thirty teams or at that time maybe twenty
six teams, I was like this and I rolled not
with the Raiders in bow and not with my hometown
Giants with lt and Sims. I rolled with my favorite
player at the time, the Nigerian Nightmare, Christian A Koya.
I would go with the Chiefs as my team, A
Koye and Berg at quarterback. De Burgh was the starting quarterback,

(37:41):
which I love, the old veteran, and then they would
go from a Koya.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
I'm Techmo. You had the other fourth running.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
Play and it was just four words word, four letters
w O R D.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Give me some barry word.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
His paths are as big as a Koya.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
He was as big as a koy Barry word and
Christian Nakoi were this one two in Kansas City on
that turf and they were an arrowhead and.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
It was so good. And then i'm defense. You can
get sacks every single down.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
Look at Jonathan Hayes, the future coach, and I've been
a tight end on defense. Did Derek Thomas I think
about it in Techmo pixelated version.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Sorry, Dave Craig. I know you don't need to see
this he saw in that game. I know you saw
it enough in your career, jeez.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
And then it wasn't just ten because number ninety was
on the team too. Neil Smith was up front. Look
for all you Madden players, they didn't make video games
of player's names back then. Then all a sudden, Techmo
came out and you had four legitimate stars and a
Koye word Thomas and Smith.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
This is just music to my ears.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
That's Jim Harbough.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Look at that. Those are my four guys.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Those are my Techmo teams, the chiefs of the early nineties.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Couss, that's great. I will only respond in a pinched
me opportunity. And what am I doing in this world?
Bring up the photograph that I took about two months ago. Peter,
you mentioned Christian Okoye and Techmobile. What are the odds
that I have a picture like this? That's a real thing.
Oh my, that's me and the Nigeria Nightmare. I think
that was in October in La we did a thing
with Techmobil for homage. Who's the league partner? He hold

(39:03):
up a scepter. I played Christian Okoye in Super Technobile.
He was the chief.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Something he gives about a word on the goal line.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
He gives them bout the word a lot. I love
bettery Wood. I like I want to give him the ball.
I said, who's the team you hate the most, and
I'll be them. I was the Raiders and Christian and
I battled and we went back and forth, and as
we're sitting down, we played Super Nintendo or Super Technoble
within the old school Nintendo. I said, Christian, how much
experience do you have playing this game? I've never played,

(39:31):
never played. We sit down battle. It's all on YouTube.
If you just type in my name in Christiana Koye,
it'll be there the full experience. Such a gentleman, shredded
as hell, great storyteller, Peter, It's a great choice. Chiefs always.
That's What's Your Beef? Presented by Old Trapper Christian nakoy
Neil Smith Thomas. I love you right back. We'll be
back after this.

Speaker 10 (39:51):
Good Morning Football is presented by Old Trapper Beef Jerky.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
What's your Beef?

Speaker 5 (39:58):
Time for Who's in your Lineup? Presented by Royal Caribbean.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
A lot of buy teams this week, which is fascinating
and considering where we are in the fantasy season. One
team that's going to be playing on the Pittsburgh Steelers
and they're going up against these guys ten days after
having one of the classic battles of this season, the
Steelers play the Browns again, and Russell Wilson's coming off a.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Four hundred and fourteen yard.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
Day that he had against the Bengals in Cincinnati. It
was really cool watching this game via the Hard Knocks
cameras last night on NFL Films and on Max. Russell
Wilson feeling himself. But trust me, they've felt that loss
against Cleveland. They don't want to be swept by the Browns.
Lamar's on a bye, Several quarterbacks are on a bye.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
You're on the fantasy chart.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
Go pick up Russell Wilson starting this week.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
He wants revenge against the.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Brown Listen, we all turned into Hard Knocks last night.
There was a very specific event that we will.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Talk about next hour on GMFP that we must cover.
Joe Burrow, what did you do
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