October 30, 2024 • 42 mins
One of the leading voices in New York sports, JJ weighs in on the Jets, Giants, and the Yankees-Dodgers World Series.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Season with Peter Schreeger is a production of the
NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to
the Season with Peter Schreger. We're about the midway point
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of the twenty twenty four NFL season. I'm Peter Schreger.
I host Good Morning Football NFL Network. I also am
one of the analysts on Fox NFL Kickoff on Sundays,
and at the midway point of the season, I always
like to take a second to look around see who's
doing what, who's been a surprise, who's been a disappointment,
and also what the story of the week is. And
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this week we go to Indianapolis, a place where Pat
McAfee usually is the voice of reason and where we
have such luminaries as Bob Kravitz over the years and
Steven Holder, and I like to parachute in once in
a while to my two cents on a situation, and
this Anthony Richardson deal is worthy of a monologue. I
think because I sit in a role as a national
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follower slash insiders slash analyst of those sport as a
morning show host, I do this five days a week,
three hours a day, and as a Sunday Insider, I
am trying to text everyone I can within every organization
to get some new piece of news. I've never never
in my life in football seen a quarterback tap out
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of a play and walk off the field. And then
in the post game, as Anthony Richardson did did say,
I was just exhausted. I needed a playoff. The response
from X players is what's so fascinating, because I like
to think I've got a pulse of the league, a
pulse of the game, and a pulse of how people
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would react. And I think a lot of people afterwards
were like, that is an atrocity, and that is something
that can be done. And I take it with more
irrational thinking. I'm like, oh, relax, he needed a playoff.
He just ran around thirty yards. And even Brian Flores
this week came out was like, did you see the play?
He was And I figured, all right, voices of reason
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will come out. I couldn't have been more off every
X player that I speak with, every position. It was
as if what this guy did tapping his helmet was
breaking some unwritten rule that is just a line too far,
a crime to humanity on the football field. To tap out,
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and that if you do one thing as a player,
you show toughness and you fight it out, and if
you do one thing as a player, you grinn and Barrett,
And if you do one thing as a player, you
fight and crawl and get through it so that they
can never take you off the field. Chase Daniel was
near tears on Monday, and I'm like in my head,
I'm like, oh, come on, stop being so dramatic, dude.
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And yet unanimously I talk to these ex players over
text and they're like, oh, no, that guy's done. I
can't I would never No, Like I can't look in
the huddle again. I'm like, really, it's one of those
rare instances where the delta between me, as you know, analyst, insider,
et cetera, thinking I've got a feel for everything in
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football can still be surprised twenty years into this thing
by the ex players who are so taken aback. And
if you think X players have a voice, I am
sure the text chains of current players is probably vibrant
as well. Is it a forgivable mistake? I would like
to think so. Here was Colt center Ryan Kelly responding
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to the Anthony richardson tap of the helmet calling out
of a game on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, I mean I think you know, we had a
conversation about it, and you know, I think you noticed
not the standard that you know that he needs to
play up to and the rest of the team holds
them too, And kind of leave the conversation that we
had at that. But you know, I'm sure he's gonna
take some criticism for that. It's just rightfully so right.
I mean, that's a tough, tough look. But I'm also
you know, he's out there giving it all for his team, right,
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and it's not always pretty sometimes, you know, an offensive
loll the last couple of weeks, you know, just having
a hard time getting going at times.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I thought we did some good things in the game.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But if anybody ever questions how hard he plays, I
don't think that that's the case. I mean, if you
watch this film, you know, surely you know we didn't
move the ball effectively at times. But I mean he's
giving it everything for his teammates. So he's young. I'm
sure it's a learning moment for him. And leave at that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I listened to a guy like Kelly who is a
longtime veteran on that team who has not had a
ton of success. I think of Quentin Nelson, who's now
been there since the sa Quon Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,
Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield draft and thinking about the lack
of success he's had in his career. I think of
Chris Ballard, who's been the GM for eight years and
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it's had just about every different player in the NFL
suit up as quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts in that
time span since Andrew Luck abruptly retired from the game.
I think about all those guys, and now we have
Joe Flacco at quarterback again in Indianapolis. And there's two
ways to look at this. One of them is always
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play the best player, get him out there. And if
you think Joe Flacco gives you the best chance to
win in Indianapolis tapping of the helmet or not, you
play Joe Flacco. He's earned that. Or you think of
it long term and you think about the potential long
term damage of benching a player like Anthony Richardson, a
fourth overall pick who's very green, who I think started
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thirteen games at the University of Florida, and you think
about does this scar him forever? I do want to
poke a hole in that ladder thinking because there's a
lot of people who say that, how could you bench
the kid? And what's the point You're not winning the
Super Bow? Why would you put Flacco in? There used
to be a time where quarterbacks were allowed to be
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benched without everyone being in hysterics over it. I think
this is a redux of my monologue when Bryce Young
was benched and everyone put on, you know, their their
white dresses and clutched their pearls and said, how dare
we the humanity, the inhumanity, the cruelty of benching a quarterback.
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I grew up a Giants fan. Phil Simms was benched
for Scott Brunner. I work with Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw
had to fight and claw to become the starting quarterback
of the Pittsburgh Steelers after losing his job as a
first overall pick. The NFL history books are littered with
situations where early draft picks had to fight for their job.
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Do you realize that Troy Aikman was the first overall
pick and was fighting with Steve Walsh for a gig
because Steve Walsh was who Jimmy Johnson at Miami and
they got him in the supplemental draft, and Steve Walsh
and a lot of Cowboys fans was the opinions of
the better option than Troy Aikman, and that Steve Walsh
got a ton of starts. Steve McNair didn't start that
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first year, Chris Chandler did. And when Steve McNair went
in and struggled, they would consider going to Chandler. Michael
Vick didn't start that first year, Chris Chandler did, same
side of thing. They would go back and forth. It
wasn't always this case where once you start the rookie,
it's just let him take the wheel and drive and
just we gotta just go through the pen, and gosh,
if you bench him, you know, can you imagine the
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psychological drama that will go down if he has to
go back on the bench. I think in this instance,
tapping the helmet might have been what did him in
in the end. But I also think in this instance
they see it every day. Joe Flacco gives those veterans
and those players in the room a better chance to win,
just as in Carolina. When Andy Dalton was inserted for
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Bryce Young, there was no great outcry. And when the
Carolina Panthers won that game coming out of that thing,
the game ball was given to Dave Kanalis, the head coach,
for that gutsy decision. I have no problem with the
Indianapolis Colts going to Joe Flacco, and I have no
problem with the door being left open for Anthony Richardson
to come back into the lineup at some point. I
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don't know when we got to this point in the
NFL's quarterback process and progression of development. Deal is that
once you get the starting nod, you can never be replaced.
Once upon a time, quarterbacks did get replaced, and in
this case, whether you believe Anthony Richardson is the inferior
quarterback to Joe Flacco or not, the Colts coaching staff
obviously doesn't want to bench their starter. They're doing this
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for a reason. They see a light, they see a
chance to win, and they see Joe Flacco as the
better way to get there. That's Indianapolis. I have not
been in Indiapolis since the combine. I couldn't tell you
what the pulse of the fans are there. I live
in New York. I'm here every day. New York is
going through one of the great pendulum moments in sports fandom.
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Let me take you through it. The Knicks had just
traded for Karl Anthony Towns, the Rangers were starting their season,
the Liberty were winning the Championship, and the Mets and
Yankees were both in the playoffs. The Giants were fresh
off of win over Seattle, and the Jets had just
beaten the Patriots. This was all about a month ago.
In the last few weeks, the Jets cannot find a win.
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Greg'szer line cannot kick the ball through it upright, and
Aaron Rodgers looks like a forty one year old quarterback
coming off of an achilles injury. The Giants cannot find
a touchdown if they were paid to do so. Daniel
Jones can't win in prime time. Both teams are two
and six and in the very basement of their standings.
The Mets have since been eliminated, and the Yankees had
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lost three games to start the World Series to the
former crosstown rivals, them Bums, the Brooklyn Dodgers. And yet,
as we record this on a Wednesday morning, there is
a glimmer of hope, a glimmer of light. The Yankees
got the best of the Los Angeles Dodgers on Tuesday night.
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The Giants can play spoiler to the Washington Commanders this weekend,
and the Jets host the Texans and are somehow favorites
on Thursday evening. I don't know when you're listening to this,
and you might be listening to it over the weekend,
but we're here on a Wednesday morning. We're recording here,
and I felt like there was no better guests to
bring on than the guy whose podcast I listened to
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when I wake up after a big New York sports moment.
This used to be the Mike Francessa Chris Russo slot.
This used to be no matter what, I'm listening to
Francessa and I'm finding a way. I have now since
been converted to a JJ guy. That might be my
allegiance to Bill Simmons and the Ringer. It might be
my allegiance to talent and quality. He's also a Dolphins fan.
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But just wait till you get the thick New York
accent and the entire JJ Jastremsky experience. John Jastremsky's our guest.
He's gonna give us the pulse of New York right
after this. All right, our guest is one of my
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favorite people in sports media. We've become friends over the
last few years. He's a fellow Brooklyn resident, and I
think he's now the voice of New York sports. I
see him on S and Y in a suit and
tie like a gentleman, and then I see him on
the Ringer podcast New York New York, which has been coming.
I go to destination every morning after these Yankees and
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Mets games, and he's dressed like the casual fan that
I know he has deep in his heart. It is JJ,
mister John Jastremsk JJ. What's up man, Trex? Thanks for
the con introduction number one, number two. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
It's been super fun over the last month, really over
the last twelve months into all these fun, fascinating New
York sports angles and hey, we live to die another day.
I think Simmons booked me after Game four thinking shrikes
he was gonna get a sleep. Anthony Vaulpi and Austin
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Wells had o their plans, but we're fired up, man.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
We're recording this on Wednesday mornings, So if you're listening
now and it's Thursday or Friday or Saturday, I that's
old news. The Dodgers won. Okay, let me get this
moment in time for us as Yankees people and as
New Yorkers. They're down three to zero. I was in
the building on Tuesday night. It was as dark and
depressing a place. I'm sorry, Monday night, it was as
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dark and depressing a place as you could imagine. Walking
out of there, taking the four train home, just selling faces.
We're gonna get swept by the Dodgers. They're gonna do
a champagne parade on the field on the Yankee Stadium,
and it's another series that's gonna end with the opposing
team celebrating in this stadium. And then Tuesday night, after
being down two to one, gets it going. They put
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the runs on the board and then they pile it
on to Honeywell late. And I know this is traditionally
a football podcast, but like you feel it in New
York in a way that I can't explain it. As
we record this at noon on Wednesday, that like it's
almost the guys having a cardiac event, and he gets
to the fibrillators and suddenly the city's alive again. And
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you were in the building Monday. You're gonna be in
the building tonight. Take us to the ethos of a
New York sports fan as you're hitting the brink of
extinction and then you got one last fight. We're not
dead yet.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I think you nailed the range of emotions that you've
had within Yankee fans shrikes.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And you know this, You've lived in New York City
a long long time. We're in Brooklyn.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
There is a different viob There is a different buzz
when you have teams in the baseball playoffs going deeper
and deeper into the playoffs. Right like you're walking around.
You saw all the med hats a week two ago.
Now you've seen all the Yankee hats out about. And
the new Yankee Stadium doesn't necessarily rock the way the
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old plays did. Now that said, Game three, you were there.
I was there thirty minutes before the game. Legend seats packed,
every seat packed, everybody is rip rawing, ready to go,
Jeter throwing out the first pitch, the awful Fat Joe concert.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Dude, it was so bad and I want Joe. This
is the anti fat I think it's still going. I
think it was mean to the viewers and listeners at home,
the high after Derek Jeter throws out a first pitch
and his shirt and tie and is hugging his daughter's
Generations of Yankees fans in tears over this moment of
Jeter throwing out this first pitch at Yankee Stadium in
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the World Series, and then to answer the ice Cube concert,
which was a home run game too, the Yankees trot
out that Joe who's in New York and Bronx legend,
but he's kind of on the pitching mound and you're like,
don't go on the mound, and then it piss goes
on and on and on, and it's the vibe did
have a certain feel at the Jeter moment, and I
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was like, let's play ball.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And then there was the concert.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, no question, and it was the perfect time for
me to say, all right, I'm gonna go get myself
some food and a cocktail and be in my seat
and ready to go. And I was there for the
first pitch, but like all of that emotion went completely
out the window when Freddie Freeman goes Yachtzi and it
was no doubt the minute the ball left his bat,
it was leaving the yard. Judge strikes out in the
first inning and it's like, oh, here we go. This
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game is an absolute dud, and Peter it felt like
it was gonna go that way again in Game four,
where it's like this guy's gonna do it again.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
He homers in his fourth straight World Series Game six.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
If you go back to the two we had with
the Atlanta Braves back in twenty twenty one, but I
kind of hit on this doing the pot after Game three,
show some fight, show some pride.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Don't allow the Dodgers to go and celebrate on your field.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And for one night, it's the line of the Jersey
kid who idolized Derek Jeter, who's now playing shortstop for
the New York Yankees, who has a base running blunder
in his second inning that you think is going to
be costly. Everybody forgets about that. When the ball leaves
his bat, it's a grand slam.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
People are throwing beer in the air.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Then he's stealing a bunch of bases, and now it's like, hey,
can they go and get another one?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
That's the way I'm kind of looking at this, Peter.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I'm not like, hey, the Yankees are winning this series,
or hey they can get can they get it back.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
To La That's what I ask.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And you went into this on your podcast, which I'm
telling you is appointment listening, even if you're not a
New York sportsman, just to get the pulse in the morning.
Take us through the history of other teams dancing and
celebrating and doing champagne showers in this building.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
So it went in the old Yankee Stadium for like
an eternity when nobody had celebrated on the field. I
think it was eighty one the Dodgers did, and then
the next celebration was Beckett on three days rest.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Whicheverone adult was the most insane. Think about that general move.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Ever, three days rest, and Peter, they were up three
to two in the series. But mckeanny's smoking cigars and
he's like, nah, man, Will had to rip. We're not
getting to a Game seven at Yankee Stadium. And we
know what happened. But then there started to be this
sort of hey, way too many teams to celebrate at
Yankee Stadium. Red Sox SO four, Cleveland and seven and
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in the new stadium. It's happened way too often. Tiger's
in eleven. I was there for that Astros in fifteen
Wildcard game. I was there for that eighteen the Red
Sox on what was a bang bang play and they
go to replay and it was like literally they had
like a bang bang Laberg Juniez ground bawl.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
We saw the replay. I looked at my wife and
my sister, I go get up, will we even down?
I'm not gonna watch this. It's over. And then it
happened in twenty twenty two with the Astros.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
So what I'm getting at here is it's happened way
too much for a franchise that shouldn't necessarily be allowing
these sort of self obrations to happen on their field
in front of their fans.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
So I don't want to see it in Game five
with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, it's been such a good series. I actually was
really impressed with the Dodger fan turnout. It's been pretty
civil too. I mean again, they were up three to
zero when I was there, but they not only have
shown their faces, they've come in mass and in my
section at least, and I was sitting up in the
two hundreds. I'm not a Howdy Toddy. I'm in the
legend syat or anything like that, and I'm not in
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the press box and I don't cover baseball. There were
a lot of Dodgers fans and they were confidently walking
around there's no danger or harm and maybe tonight it'll
be a little different in the park where I'll be
going and so will you. But like, it's kind of
cool seeing these two teams, traditional franchises, and of course
the history with the Brooklyn Dodgers moving out that there
is this fan base that either A flew in or b.
There are a lot of New York City and New
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York Area Dodger fans that still exists from generations to go.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
It's badass.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
And you know, Peter, for the last seven years, you've
been taking Yankees Dodgers like this goes back to twenty
seventeen when the Dodgers took care of the Cubs and
the Yankees miraculously won three straight games against the Astros,
and you're like, wow, twenty seventeen, we're gonna get it.
It's gonna be Dodgers, it's gonna be Yankees. Just like
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the old times. And every year since it's been like
this preseason narrative, this mid season narrative that you don't
get the payout. We finally got the payout this year.
And it's awesome, man. I mean, all the star power,
all the history. You know, we didn't live through the
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forties and the fifties in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
We don't even have memories of Reggie Jackson and Great
Nettles and Mike Torres were of a different generation. So
to kind of rekindle that with the Yankees and the Dodgers, Yeah,
it's it's good for baseball, it's good for New York
and LA. And you kind of nailed it all of
these games, despite the three to one sort of margin
outside of Game four, and even Game four because it
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was a lot of window dressing. It was a close
game until the Yankees blow it open. All these games
at least have been coming down.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
At a wire. It's not been a one sided series,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And it's been really cool. Aesthetically. I always love the
Rose Bowl because you see in the Rose Bowl when
it's USC versus UCLA, you see the sun setting and
you see those beautiful uniforms of the USC the red
in the gold, and then of course you get the
UCLA with the blue and the gold, and it just
looks great together. Before Game four, we're out there in
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the stands and both teams in their full uniforms, the
pinstripes on the Yankees and the gorgeous gray and blue
of the Dodgers. It's on the field with that pristine field.
I hate to get poetic about sports, sounds like moneyball,
but to see those uniforms, those crisp colors, like it's
really traditional. We don't have some zany team with purple
logos and crazy throwback third uniforms. Like it's Yankees Dodgers,
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and that's the way it should be.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
And you know, I went out Shrigs in nineteen Yankees
played the Dodgers. I think was their first time back
at Dodgers Stadium in a while because now interleague play
they play every single year.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
But this was like finally long overdue with getting this
in the regular.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Season, and they wore those hideous players weekend jerseys, so
like the Yankees were wearing black, and you couldn't even
read the Dodger blue logo because it was like an
all white I'm like, this is Yankees Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Do we have to do?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
We have to ruin the beautiful aesthetic with these dopey
uniforms that neither one of these teams is gonna wear.
So yeah, dude, like it's just it's like Americana, It's
like the way it should be.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yankees Dodgers the uniforms. And I'm sure Fox, your your.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Buddies and Fox are drawing over the fact that they
get more baseball with this serious let's go.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I'm sure they'd like it to go seven and to
midnight on Saturday night, Game seven with something happening.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I don't go right into you guys doing the pregame show.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Want to be up, We'll be ready. I'll be battling
you and cousin Sally and the Ringer gambling show. We'll
be welling right up against you guys. It'll be perfect.
I'm gonna say a couple names and you just do
your spiel on what you think. Aaron Judge right now,
your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Mister June. Love him.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
He's an all time Yankee. He's got a record, He's
gonna set more records. He's gonna win more MVPs.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Peter.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
You know how it is, when you're the captain of
the Yankees, what you do from April to September doesn't
mean as much as what you do in the month
of October. And this is ridiculously unfair because I'd argue
you're a Fox colleague. Mister Jeter is probably one of
the most clutch players I've seen in any sport. And
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the amazing thing about Jeter is, you know, you see
great athletes, right whether it's Michael Jordan or Tom Brady,
they're kind of exemplary regular season their exemplary postseason. Jun
is a first bout Hall of Famer, but he actually
raised his level of play in the biggest of games,
and Judge has not done that. He needs to do
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that for the I know I'm getting cliche. It matters, man,
when you're the captain of the Yankees, you gotta perform
in October.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Case closed. I look at the scoreboard the other night
and they just listed his height and weight. He's six eight,
two eighty and he hit fifty eight home runs this
year And it's like, brother, that stuff's all in the past.
If you could have a postseason moment, if you could
have a World Series moment, if you could have a
big home run that puts this team over the top. Like,
that's what Matt, that's what you know. I know his
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history and his post playing career was littered with other stuff.
But like Jim Lyrits is forever a Giant's legend, a
Yankees legend, forever, forever. You got fans who would say
Scott Brocchus is forever a Yankees legend. For that series
against the Padre is, Like that's when we remember this
stuff because I guess all the other stuff gets diluted.
Yes he's a Hall of Famer, and yes he's an MVP,
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and yes, all this stuff, but without that October moment
for Yankees fans, they're spoiled like they need the October.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, and that's what you judged on. That's what Yankee
captains a judge on. That's what monument mark.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yankees are judged one and hey, Deckie, Matt sue he's
throwing out the first pitching game five.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Now, Matt series is a tremendous, tremendous Yankee. But I
mean that World.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Series not starting three games in Philadelphia and homering basically
every single time.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I mean, that's what you're judged Onne, So got it.
It's time for Aaron Judge to go and do it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, okay, so Aaron Judge, Another Aaron, Aaron Boone. Where's
he stand right now with Yankees fans?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
So right now, mister Boone needs to go and win
a World Series to be fully embraced, and he is
going to have job security.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
He has jobs. He probably has had more job.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Security than Supreme Court justices because there are a couple
of years, Peter, where the Yankees easily could have been
within their rights to go and make a managerial change,
losing a wildcard game, that the Red Sox getting swept
by the astros Hey. Last year, they missed the postseason
all together. Now, positives for Aaron Boone. Guys love them,
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there's no getting around that his clubhouse absolutely adores them.
But there's a sense of baseball IQ and fundamentals that
have been lacking from even a team that's gone to
the World Series this year. I mean, we saw last
night with Volpi, they made two key eras in Game
one that I think were lost in the shuffle by
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his terrible managerial decision to go with nest de Cortez
over Tim Hill. But I think Boone is the sort
of manager that, yes, is going to be back next
year because the Yankees are in the World Series. They
did something they haven't done in fifteen years. But there's
a massive Yeah. But where Joe Torri won Girardi in
his second year one, you're the manager of the Yankees
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for a long period of time and you don't have
a World Series championship, Peter. You don't get that sort
of job security in most places, you know, especially with
a franchise that used to fire managers like there was
no tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So he's not exactly a beloved figure. You win and
that changes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And of course we grew up in the Billy Martin
era where Steinbrenner would fire higher Billy Martin every other year,
and you had some some different stump Merrills and don
Zimmers all the way up until we finally had Joe
Torre as the manager. The last name I'm going to
give you before we end on Yankees and quickly hit
some some New York football. Does the name Austin Copa
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Bianco mean anything to you?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Is that the guy?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
This just a guess here, This is just a guess.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Is that the gentleman who yanked the ball out of
Mookie Bets Clve yesterday?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Of course, let me give you, let me give you,
let me give you some context here. His name is
Austin Copo Bianco, which you could not make up if
you paid me a million dollars based on the image. Uh,
immediately on Good Morning Football, I say that is the
Halloween costume of the year. You're going as Austin Copa
Bianco and his sunglasses at night friend. And immediately everyone's like,
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take it down, trigger, how dare you glorify this animal?
I'm like, guy, just to say it. It's a funny
moment in time that said, tweet history or not. And
I don't know where this guy's from or what his
story is. That's his name, and apparently his Twitter handle
leaves a lot to be desired. Where do you come out?
Because Sterling and Waldman last night, we're not too or
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none too pleased with that behavior. And yet there are
some Yankee fans, a lot of guys that will see
on the street here. I'll be like that actually kickstarted
the team a little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Hey, listen, if it kickstarts the team, if you tell
me they're going to win an extra games, So we
got to sacrifice one particular fan to every game to
try to get a ball out of Mookie's cloth or
somebody's cloth for that matter. You know, I'm all for it,
but listen, initially watching it, Peter, I was like.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Mookie's in the stands. That's the you know, like you
see you don't see the replay.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
So when I first thought is, hey, you go into stands,
that that ball is just as much the fans as
it is the players.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
But Mooky clearly caught it and hanging.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And then you got like this sticky You got like
the sticky fingers of the guy trying to get the pot.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
It was. It was he had a sliding glove on,
which it is like what like high level high school
players or college or minor league players, which gives me
the feeling that Austin Coppobianco thought at any given moment
he might be inserted into the game, the Yankees might
need him because he had a professional glove on. He's
a four hundred dollars glove on.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
It was like Jim Harbaugh. You know, maybe he was
taking notes from Jim Harbaugh and your buddy who brings
the glove to the game. You never know what can
happen when you go to a baseball game. I did
not anticipate, though, that some Yankee fans sticky fingers would
be in mooki BET's hand, and you have the image
that will be seen forever now, Mookie Bets basically like, dude,
get off of me.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Get off of me for goodness sakes.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
All right, I know you're a Dolphins fan at heart
and you wear that well. I don't have any Dolphins questions.
If you want to do a Dolphins ninety second.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
They're they're gonna lose by thirty to buff Okay, just
put out the bad June Jews so.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
That you could be pleasantly surprised. That's fine. I do know, though,
that you host this podcast and you're on sn Y
all the time, and you've been on Wfan, and you've
got this great New York listenership. As fourth Wall is
torn down, are you better as a radio host and
better as a content creator in the Joe Beningo ethos
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of the world is melting and they suck and we're
gonna crush these teams. Or is it better when they're
winning football. For you, coming on to the airwaves as
someone who is serving the fans and serving as the
voice of the New York Sports Seed.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
This is an easy call for me. It's better when
they're good. It's better when they're good.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yes, there's elements of fun of how crazy and how
bizarre it can get.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
But here's what I know, Peter. If the Jets and
the Giants aren't winning, and right now they're on their way,
the Jets are two and six, how they're favored against
the Euston Texans. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Vegas maybe knows a little bit more than me, but
that as it may, you fade into the abyss once
you hit November, December and beyond.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
That is not enjoyable.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
That is not fun when you were talking about football
teams that are four and eight and five and nine
and you're trying to come up with talking points and narratives.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
No, been there, done that, man. I want teams that
are in it.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
And I think that's what makes this Jets season so
disturbing because last year at this time they had all
sorts of problems. Zach Wilson was not exactly lighting the
world on fire, but Halloween weekend they beat the Giants.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
They're really imaginable.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
They were playing games before Thanksgiving that had meaning and significance.
Now basically the Jets have to go and pull an
inside straight or royal flush to go and get themselves
in the postseason. And that's with Aaron Rodgers's with Devonte Adams,
that's with Tyron Smith and all of this talent they've
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added to the team. Peter, I was texting you back
in the summertime. You're like, dude, I thought voted the
talent they voted, but the you know what it is
though the vibe sometimes I thought the vibe was.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
High, the vibe was right. I was there, I was
on the grounds. I don't regret my decision at all.
These losses have been crazy, the Zerline misses. You talked
about Aaron Boone having a lifetime appointment as as a
manager for Greg Zerline to I think he's still here still, Why, Like.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Why, I don't get it. I don't get it, And
not only that, it's cost him a couple of games.
But then like bad teams find ways to lose. That's
that's kind of my narrative, right, So it's like if
it's not the kicker. It's Aaron Rodgers throwing a late
interception against the Vikings in a game the Vikings were begging,
begging the Jets to say, here, take it the Buffalo game,
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that New England, you have that delay game on the
two point playoff five and then allowed Jacoby Brissett, who
is a backup quarterback with no receivers, to go right
down the field and listen, I was not the biggest
Bobby Salad guy.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I was not.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
I would have made a coaching change in the offseason,
as unfair as that might have been. Putting Old Brook
in this spot has hurt the defense because she's supposed
to be drawing up the defense and doing all the
things necessary for the defense, and he's got to be
focused on tenzillion other things. It's just it keeps building
and adding, and it's like, well, when is it going
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to stop? And you could see the body language within
that awful.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
They used three timeouts in the first Quarter's let's come on,
you know, uh, let's wrap with this team. The New
York Giants Daniel Jones, Joe Shane and Brian Dable get
essentially a vote of confidence that could always be pulled
owners or pickle from John Marra before the loss to
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the Steelers primetime, but Daniel Jones is now one in
fourteen in primetime. Sekwon Barkley still has more touchdowns at
MetLife this season than Daniel Jones does. And I said
it on Good Morning Football without even looking before the game,
I could tell you Daniel Jones against the Steelers on
Monday Night is going to go oh fifteen to twenty five,
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have two backbreaking turnovers and maybe score a touchdown and
on a big third and eight is gonna fumble or
is going to complete a pass for five yards? That's
not enough and they're gonna have to you know, kick
a field goal and miss it or air punt it away.
You're six of Daniel Jones as someone who creates content
and is often in touch with the guys on the street.
(33:48):
The thoughts on the Giants and Daniel Jones as we
head towards Week nine of the NFL season and the
Washington Commanders, a team they used to own, is coming
and field themselves.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I think the Giant fan is ready for a new quarterback,
but I think the Giant fan has been ready for
a new quarterback. Really going back to mid season of
last year, when it looked like in twenty two everything
had clicked for Jones.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
He has a career best season.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
They win a playoff game against Minnesota and it's like, Wow,
maybe Brian Dabele has unlocked him. Maybe he's going to
take that next step as a quarterback. He can't stay
on the field, and you nailed it with the Pittsburgh game.
It's become very predictable how the Giants are gonna lose. Yeah,
they're going to be in a game. They're going to
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move the ball between the twenties. They're not going to
finish drives. There's going to be a big turnover. There's
going to be a.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Big booboo, and that's how you're gonna lose.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Like the Bengals game, the Steelers game, Like I've seen
this game now so many times for the Giants over
the last couple of years. Last year in Buffalo, even
though Daniel Jones didn't play that game, but you get
my drift. They wanted to take a quarterback. We all
watched Hard Knocks, we all watched it. It was on
full display for everybody in New York and everybody for
America to see.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
To their credit, they were very big on Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
To their credit, Hey, Joe Shane's kid, he could come
and work for the Dolphins and help evaluate talent because
he was all over getting Jade Daniels in.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Listen, they got themselves a really good player in the
weak neighbors.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
It's not like they didn't get a high quality, high
caliber guy, but they need a quarterback, and that voted confidence.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Peter. I know you're right.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Owners are fickle. They changed their mind all the time.
Maybe I'm missing this. Maybe I'm an idiot here. I
think they're coming back.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I think they're of the mindset. Mara is like, look,
I think these guys no personnel. I think that Brian
Dable knows offensive coaching. I'm gonna give them a chance
to go and get their quarterback and see what they
can do. And inevitably, that's to me the most interesting
element that's left of this giant year, because you know
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the Jets in the AFC, the way the AFC shakes out,
there are like four really really good teams and then
there's a bunch of maybe you're not getting any NFC.
The NFC is loaded, making the playoffs is going to
be so much more difficult, and where the Giants did
at two and six, that's the most intriguing element to me.
When Daniel Jones gets benched, then it's going to be
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because that whole injury, you know, is better than made
the injury clause and not wanting to be on the
hook for next year and where they're going to be
pigging in the draft and who the quarterback is going
to be. But yeah, the Giant fan wants a new quarterback.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
All right, we're gonna wrap. I do have one question.
My Columbus crew beat the NYC red Bull last night.
Did you happen to catch any of that one?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I did not?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Can you give me can you give me the crumb notes?
Can you give me the give me a stat seat
on that one? Cross post games back in the day
in Syracuse when I had no you want to talk
about shows where I had.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
No clue just what I was talking talking about? Jim
Brown and lacrosse from the Syracuse fifties.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yeah, queer and face offs. I mean, dude, if you
could I used to tell that to people all the time. Pete,
if you can do lacrosse post games, you can do anything.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
No, I hear you, if you really are serious. I
like the Columbus crew. I don't even ask. I don't
love soccer, but I always like to pop in and
say this, Mandy, I let wear the jersey on air.
They're defending champions. They've got this great, rich fan base.
Red Bull came in last night being a one nothing
on their home field. A lackluster effort from the crew.
So we hit all sports here on the season with
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Peter Schrager, and that's my analysis there, JJ, real quick,
give us the full, full, full line of where we
can see you and including on Sunday mornings, which I
gotta tell you, I'm on Fox NFL Kickoff, but I
see clips of you and Rahem Palmer and sal and
Simmons popping in and it's quite enjoyable.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
You mean, Simmons in his pajamas, just basically crashing this
set at any moment.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I appreciate that New York, New York. We were rocking.
After all the big games.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
We do a couple of pods a week, always on Sunday,
always on Thursday, and then after all these playoff games.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I mean, I'm gonna cut you off, do you feel
like you're filling that Beningo role of late night on
Sunday after the Jets, and it's like, all right, I'm
gonna be the Because you do live calls on these
Twitter spaces, which I didn't even know was possible.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Podcast it's great, Well, then we take we do them
on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
If you get there live, great, but you know, for
most people who are not going to be up at
one in the morning or twelve or whatever, yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
We post them as a pod and you get to
relive it the next morning. I love it.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
I absolutely love it because it combines like the stuff
that I do with the Ringer and it kind of
gives me that old school fa and vibe that I
had for a long time.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
So we got New York, New York.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
We got The Ringer Gambling Show, where I'm doing a
bunch of pods a week there giving out terrible picks.
It's been a so so NFL season. Got to get
our stuff together as far as that goes. And then
s Y Sports Night eleven pm, Baseball Night in New York,
and yeah, the Ringer Sunday pregame.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
At eleven am. So shakes. I'm trying to keep up
with you. You got a lot of gigs, man, that's
how it works in a business man. You got a hustle.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
You're great. I love what you do and I love
that you post your runs in the morning. It makes
me feel terrible every single time I see you that
you seventeen, you run seventy, and I'm like, how the
hell did you? Where do you find the time to
do that? Very impressive, thanks, Buddy.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I wish the golf game was as impressive as the
running splits these days.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
But you know, the Yankees and a massive distracted me.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's a good thing. Uh JJ, thank you for joining
the pod and go Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Say press, Thanks Peter, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Maybe that was indulging myself there, Aaron as a New
York resident, but I felt like that was kind of
the moment, and it's it would be fake for me
to come on here and give a twenty minute treatise
on what the Arizona Cardinals are doing with their two
straight wins. So we went with a guest talking Yankees
a little bit. We got football in at the end.
What do you think of JJ, Bob No love for
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Drew Petsing.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Huh to the two Street wins for Arizona.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
I love JJ personally, I don't follow baseball at all,
so all of that was pure gibberish to me.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Other than the conversations about the Jets and the Giants,
so per I thought, the one interesting thing, and maybe
we'll put the clip on social is me asking what
makes for better content when they're losing or they're winning.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
I don't know if I agree with him. Some of
the stuff that goes viral is when frances is banging
his head against the wall and Beningo's going nuts in
when JJ is I think he might be he might
be saying what he thinks is the right answer. But
if they're a five hundred Giants team and they beat
the you know, they beat the Minnesota Vikings seventeen thirteen,
I don't know if it's the same reaction as when
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the Jets absolutely implode. I think that for those talk
radio hosts, sometimes talking about the Browns in a bad
season or the Eagles in a bad season is better
than when they're just barely you know, above five hundred.
All right, love it, let's get into it. Uber eats.
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I want to discuss a team or a player that
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delivered results from the past week, and I think I
have to look no further than the starting quarterback for
the Denver Broncos, the rookie bow Knicks Bonecks against the
Carol Line of Panthers. He threw for three touchdowns, he
had a rushing touchdown, he threw no interceptions, and he
completed seventy five percent of his passes. The Broncos are
now five and three. They're taking on the vaunted Ravens
(41:19):
this weekend, and suddenly Sean Payton's boys come marching into
Baltimore as a team with as good a record as
the Ravens, and bo Nicks is the reason why that
they've gotten any offense at all. I have to show
respect to a rookie that a lot of people didn't
think would have the same stuff as Austin, as Jaden
Daniels or as Caleb Williams. Yet bon Knicks is right
there in the conversation, and if it wasn't for Daniels
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having this historic season, would quite possibly be our offensive
player of the year as far as rookies go. So
bow Knicks the pride of the Oregon Ducks and before that,
the pride of the Auburn Tiger. Sixty one college starts
and now eight starts into his NFL career, has five wins,
three losses, and had his best performance last weekend. Austin.
Why I keep saying the name Austin, It's because Austin
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Now, all right, guys, go Yankees and enjoy your NFL Weekend.
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NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to
the Season with Peter Schreger. We're about the midway point
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of the twenty twenty four NFL season. I'm Peter Schreger.
I host Good Morning Football NFL Network. I also am
one of the analysts on Fox NFL Kickoff on Sundays,
and at the midway point of the season, I always
like to take a second to look around see who's
doing what, who's been a surprise, who's been a disappointment,
and also what the story of the week is. And
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this week we go to Indianapolis, a place where Pat
McAfee usually is the voice of reason and where we
have such luminaries as Bob Kravitz over the years and
Steven Holder, and I like to parachute in once in
a while to my two cents on a situation, and
this Anthony Richardson deal is worthy of a monologue. I
think because I sit in a role as a national
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follower slash insiders slash analyst of those sport as a
morning show host, I do this five days a week,
three hours a day, and as a Sunday Insider, I
am trying to text everyone I can within every organization
to get some new piece of news. I've never never
in my life in football seen a quarterback tap out
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of a play and walk off the field. And then
in the post game, as Anthony Richardson did did say,
I was just exhausted. I needed a playoff. The response
from X players is what's so fascinating, because I like
to think I've got a pulse of the league, a
pulse of the game, and a pulse of how people
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would react. And I think a lot of people afterwards
were like, that is an atrocity, and that is something
that can be done. And I take it with more
irrational thinking. I'm like, oh, relax, he needed a playoff.
He just ran around thirty yards. And even Brian Flores
this week came out was like, did you see the play?
He was And I figured, all right, voices of reason
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will come out. I couldn't have been more off every
X player that I speak with, every position. It was
as if what this guy did tapping his helmet was
breaking some unwritten rule that is just a line too far,
a crime to humanity on the football field. To tap out,
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and that if you do one thing as a player,
you show toughness and you fight it out, and if
you do one thing as a player, you grinn and Barrett,
And if you do one thing as a player, you
fight and crawl and get through it so that they
can never take you off the field. Chase Daniel was
near tears on Monday, and I'm like in my head,
I'm like, oh, come on, stop being so dramatic, dude.
(03:06):
And yet unanimously I talk to these ex players over
text and they're like, oh, no, that guy's done. I
can't I would never No, Like I can't look in
the huddle again. I'm like, really, it's one of those
rare instances where the delta between me, as you know, analyst, insider,
et cetera, thinking I've got a feel for everything in
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football can still be surprised twenty years into this thing
by the ex players who are so taken aback. And
if you think X players have a voice, I am
sure the text chains of current players is probably vibrant
as well. Is it a forgivable mistake? I would like
to think so. Here was Colt center Ryan Kelly responding
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to the Anthony richardson tap of the helmet calling out
of a game on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, I mean I think you know, we had a
conversation about it, and you know, I think you noticed
not the standard that you know that he needs to
play up to and the rest of the team holds
them too, And kind of leave the conversation that we
had at that. But you know, I'm sure he's gonna
take some criticism for that. It's just rightfully so right.
I mean, that's a tough, tough look. But I'm also
you know, he's out there giving it all for his team, right,
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and it's not always pretty sometimes, you know, an offensive
loll the last couple of weeks, you know, just having
a hard time getting going at times.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I thought we did some good things in the game.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But if anybody ever questions how hard he plays, I
don't think that that's the case. I mean, if you
watch this film, you know, surely you know we didn't
move the ball effectively at times. But I mean he's
giving it everything for his teammates. So he's young. I'm
sure it's a learning moment for him. And leave at that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I listened to a guy like Kelly who is a
longtime veteran on that team who has not had a
ton of success. I think of Quentin Nelson, who's now
been there since the sa Quon Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,
Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield draft and thinking about the lack
of success he's had in his career. I think of
Chris Ballard, who's been the GM for eight years and
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it's had just about every different player in the NFL
suit up as quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts in that
time span since Andrew Luck abruptly retired from the game.
I think about all those guys, and now we have
Joe Flacco at quarterback again in Indianapolis. And there's two
ways to look at this. One of them is always
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play the best player, get him out there. And if
you think Joe Flacco gives you the best chance to
win in Indianapolis tapping of the helmet or not, you
play Joe Flacco. He's earned that. Or you think of
it long term and you think about the potential long
term damage of benching a player like Anthony Richardson, a
fourth overall pick who's very green, who I think started
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thirteen games at the University of Florida, and you think
about does this scar him forever? I do want to
poke a hole in that ladder thinking because there's a
lot of people who say that, how could you bench
the kid? And what's the point You're not winning the
Super Bow? Why would you put Flacco in? There used
to be a time where quarterbacks were allowed to be
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benched without everyone being in hysterics over it. I think
this is a redux of my monologue when Bryce Young
was benched and everyone put on, you know, their their
white dresses and clutched their pearls and said, how dare
we the humanity, the inhumanity, the cruelty of benching a quarterback.
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I grew up a Giants fan. Phil Simms was benched
for Scott Brunner. I work with Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw
had to fight and claw to become the starting quarterback
of the Pittsburgh Steelers after losing his job as a
first overall pick. The NFL history books are littered with
situations where early draft picks had to fight for their job.
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Do you realize that Troy Aikman was the first overall
pick and was fighting with Steve Walsh for a gig
because Steve Walsh was who Jimmy Johnson at Miami and
they got him in the supplemental draft, and Steve Walsh
and a lot of Cowboys fans was the opinions of
the better option than Troy Aikman, and that Steve Walsh
got a ton of starts. Steve McNair didn't start that
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first year, Chris Chandler did. And when Steve McNair went
in and struggled, they would consider going to Chandler. Michael
Vick didn't start that first year, Chris Chandler did, same
side of thing. They would go back and forth. It
wasn't always this case where once you start the rookie,
it's just let him take the wheel and drive and
just we gotta just go through the pen, and gosh,
if you bench him, you know, can you imagine the
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psychological drama that will go down if he has to
go back on the bench. I think in this instance,
tapping the helmet might have been what did him in
in the end. But I also think in this instance
they see it every day. Joe Flacco gives those veterans
and those players in the room a better chance to win,
just as in Carolina. When Andy Dalton was inserted for
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Bryce Young, there was no great outcry. And when the
Carolina Panthers won that game coming out of that thing,
the game ball was given to Dave Kanalis, the head coach,
for that gutsy decision. I have no problem with the
Indianapolis Colts going to Joe Flacco, and I have no
problem with the door being left open for Anthony Richardson
to come back into the lineup at some point. I
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don't know when we got to this point in the
NFL's quarterback process and progression of development. Deal is that
once you get the starting nod, you can never be replaced.
Once upon a time, quarterbacks did get replaced, and in
this case, whether you believe Anthony Richardson is the inferior
quarterback to Joe Flacco or not, the Colts coaching staff
obviously doesn't want to bench their starter. They're doing this
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for a reason. They see a light, they see a
chance to win, and they see Joe Flacco as the
better way to get there. That's Indianapolis. I have not
been in Indiapolis since the combine. I couldn't tell you
what the pulse of the fans are there. I live
in New York. I'm here every day. New York is
going through one of the great pendulum moments in sports fandom.
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Let me take you through it. The Knicks had just
traded for Karl Anthony Towns, the Rangers were starting their season,
the Liberty were winning the Championship, and the Mets and
Yankees were both in the playoffs. The Giants were fresh
off of win over Seattle, and the Jets had just
beaten the Patriots. This was all about a month ago.
In the last few weeks, the Jets cannot find a win.
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Greg'szer line cannot kick the ball through it upright, and
Aaron Rodgers looks like a forty one year old quarterback
coming off of an achilles injury. The Giants cannot find
a touchdown if they were paid to do so. Daniel
Jones can't win in prime time. Both teams are two
and six and in the very basement of their standings.
The Mets have since been eliminated, and the Yankees had
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lost three games to start the World Series to the
former crosstown rivals, them Bums, the Brooklyn Dodgers. And yet,
as we record this on a Wednesday morning, there is
a glimmer of hope, a glimmer of light. The Yankees
got the best of the Los Angeles Dodgers on Tuesday night.
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The Giants can play spoiler to the Washington Commanders this weekend,
and the Jets host the Texans and are somehow favorites
on Thursday evening. I don't know when you're listening to this,
and you might be listening to it over the weekend,
but we're here on a Wednesday morning. We're recording here,
and I felt like there was no better guests to
bring on than the guy whose podcast I listened to
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when I wake up after a big New York sports moment.
This used to be the Mike Francessa Chris Russo slot.
This used to be no matter what, I'm listening to
Francessa and I'm finding a way. I have now since
been converted to a JJ guy. That might be my
allegiance to Bill Simmons and the Ringer. It might be
my allegiance to talent and quality. He's also a Dolphins fan.
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But just wait till you get the thick New York
accent and the entire JJ Jastremsky experience. John Jastremsky's our guest.
He's gonna give us the pulse of New York right
after this. All right, our guest is one of my
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favorite people in sports media. We've become friends over the
last few years. He's a fellow Brooklyn resident, and I
think he's now the voice of New York sports. I
see him on S and Y in a suit and
tie like a gentleman, and then I see him on
the Ringer podcast New York New York, which has been coming.
I go to destination every morning after these Yankees and
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Mets games, and he's dressed like the casual fan that
I know he has deep in his heart. It is JJ,
mister John Jastremsk JJ. What's up man, Trex? Thanks for
the con introduction number one, number two. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
It's been super fun over the last month, really over
the last twelve months into all these fun, fascinating New
York sports angles and hey, we live to die another day.
I think Simmons booked me after Game four thinking shrikes
he was gonna get a sleep. Anthony Vaulpi and Austin
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Wells had o their plans, but we're fired up, man.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
We're recording this on Wednesday mornings, So if you're listening
now and it's Thursday or Friday or Saturday, I that's
old news. The Dodgers won. Okay, let me get this
moment in time for us as Yankees people and as
New Yorkers. They're down three to zero. I was in
the building on Tuesday night. It was as dark and
depressing a place. I'm sorry, Monday night, it was as
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dark and depressing a place as you could imagine. Walking
out of there, taking the four train home, just selling faces.
We're gonna get swept by the Dodgers. They're gonna do
a champagne parade on the field on the Yankee Stadium,
and it's another series that's gonna end with the opposing
team celebrating in this stadium. And then Tuesday night, after
being down two to one, gets it going. They put
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the runs on the board and then they pile it
on to Honeywell late. And I know this is traditionally
a football podcast, but like you feel it in New
York in a way that I can't explain it. As
we record this at noon on Wednesday, that like it's
almost the guys having a cardiac event, and he gets
to the fibrillators and suddenly the city's alive again. And
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you were in the building Monday. You're gonna be in
the building tonight. Take us to the ethos of a
New York sports fan as you're hitting the brink of
extinction and then you got one last fight. We're not
dead yet.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I think you nailed the range of emotions that you've
had within Yankee fans shrikes.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And you know this, You've lived in New York City
a long long time. We're in Brooklyn.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
There is a different viob There is a different buzz
when you have teams in the baseball playoffs going deeper
and deeper into the playoffs. Right like you're walking around.
You saw all the med hats a week two ago.
Now you've seen all the Yankee hats out about. And
the new Yankee Stadium doesn't necessarily rock the way the
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old plays did. Now that said, Game three, you were there.
I was there thirty minutes before the game. Legend seats packed,
every seat packed, everybody is rip rawing, ready to go,
Jeter throwing out the first pitch, the awful Fat Joe concert.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Dude, it was so bad and I want Joe. This
is the anti fat I think it's still going. I
think it was mean to the viewers and listeners at home,
the high after Derek Jeter throws out a first pitch
and his shirt and tie and is hugging his daughter's
Generations of Yankees fans in tears over this moment of
Jeter throwing out this first pitch at Yankee Stadium in
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the World Series, and then to answer the ice Cube concert,
which was a home run game too, the Yankees trot
out that Joe who's in New York and Bronx legend,
but he's kind of on the pitching mound and you're like,
don't go on the mound, and then it piss goes
on and on and on, and it's the vibe did
have a certain feel at the Jeter moment, and I
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was like, let's play ball.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And then there was the concert.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, no question, and it was the perfect time for
me to say, all right, I'm gonna go get myself
some food and a cocktail and be in my seat
and ready to go. And I was there for the
first pitch, but like all of that emotion went completely
out the window when Freddie Freeman goes Yachtzi and it
was no doubt the minute the ball left his bat,
it was leaving the yard. Judge strikes out in the
first inning and it's like, oh, here we go. This
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game is an absolute dud, and Peter it felt like
it was gonna go that way again in Game four,
where it's like this guy's gonna do it again.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
He homers in his fourth straight World Series Game six.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
If you go back to the two we had with
the Atlanta Braves back in twenty twenty one, but I
kind of hit on this doing the pot after Game three,
show some fight, show some pride.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Don't allow the Dodgers to go and celebrate on your field.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And for one night, it's the line of the Jersey
kid who idolized Derek Jeter, who's now playing shortstop for
the New York Yankees, who has a base running blunder
in his second inning that you think is going to
be costly. Everybody forgets about that. When the ball leaves
his bat, it's a grand slam.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
People are throwing beer in the air.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Then he's stealing a bunch of bases, and now it's like, hey,
can they go and get another one?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
That's the way I'm kind of looking at this, Peter.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I'm not like, hey, the Yankees are winning this series,
or hey they can get can they get it back.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
To La That's what I ask.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And you went into this on your podcast, which I'm
telling you is appointment listening, even if you're not a
New York sportsman, just to get the pulse in the morning.
Take us through the history of other teams dancing and
celebrating and doing champagne showers in this building.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
So it went in the old Yankee Stadium for like
an eternity when nobody had celebrated on the field. I
think it was eighty one the Dodgers did, and then
the next celebration was Beckett on three days rest.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Whicheverone adult was the most insane. Think about that general move.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Ever, three days rest, and Peter, they were up three
to two in the series. But mckeanny's smoking cigars and
he's like, nah, man, Will had to rip. We're not
getting to a Game seven at Yankee Stadium. And we
know what happened. But then there started to be this
sort of hey, way too many teams to celebrate at
Yankee Stadium. Red Sox SO four, Cleveland and seven and
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in the new stadium. It's happened way too often. Tiger's
in eleven. I was there for that Astros in fifteen
Wildcard game. I was there for that eighteen the Red
Sox on what was a bang bang play and they
go to replay and it was like literally they had
like a bang bang Laberg Juniez ground bawl.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
We saw the replay. I looked at my wife and
my sister, I go get up, will we even down?
I'm not gonna watch this. It's over. And then it
happened in twenty twenty two with the Astros.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
So what I'm getting at here is it's happened way
too much for a franchise that shouldn't necessarily be allowing
these sort of self obrations to happen on their field
in front of their fans.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
So I don't want to see it in Game five
with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, it's been such a good series. I actually was
really impressed with the Dodger fan turnout. It's been pretty
civil too. I mean again, they were up three to
zero when I was there, but they not only have
shown their faces, they've come in mass and in my
section at least, and I was sitting up in the
two hundreds. I'm not a Howdy Toddy. I'm in the
legend syat or anything like that, and I'm not in
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the press box and I don't cover baseball. There were
a lot of Dodgers fans and they were confidently walking
around there's no danger or harm and maybe tonight it'll
be a little different in the park where I'll be
going and so will you. But like, it's kind of
cool seeing these two teams, traditional franchises, and of course
the history with the Brooklyn Dodgers moving out that there
is this fan base that either A flew in or b.
There are a lot of New York City and New
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York Area Dodger fans that still exists from generations to go.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
It's badass.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
And you know, Peter, for the last seven years, you've
been taking Yankees Dodgers like this goes back to twenty
seventeen when the Dodgers took care of the Cubs and
the Yankees miraculously won three straight games against the Astros,
and you're like, wow, twenty seventeen, we're gonna get it.
It's gonna be Dodgers, it's gonna be Yankees. Just like
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the old times. And every year since it's been like
this preseason narrative, this mid season narrative that you don't
get the payout. We finally got the payout this year.
And it's awesome, man. I mean, all the star power,
all the history. You know, we didn't live through the
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forties and the fifties in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
We don't even have memories of Reggie Jackson and Great
Nettles and Mike Torres were of a different generation. So
to kind of rekindle that with the Yankees and the Dodgers, Yeah,
it's it's good for baseball, it's good for New York
and LA. And you kind of nailed it all of
these games, despite the three to one sort of margin
outside of Game four, and even Game four because it
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was a lot of window dressing. It was a close
game until the Yankees blow it open. All these games
at least have been coming down.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
At a wire. It's not been a one sided series,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And it's been really cool. Aesthetically. I always love the
Rose Bowl because you see in the Rose Bowl when
it's USC versus UCLA, you see the sun setting and
you see those beautiful uniforms of the USC the red
in the gold, and then of course you get the
UCLA with the blue and the gold, and it just
looks great together. Before Game four, we're out there in
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the stands and both teams in their full uniforms, the
pinstripes on the Yankees and the gorgeous gray and blue
of the Dodgers. It's on the field with that pristine field.
I hate to get poetic about sports, sounds like moneyball,
but to see those uniforms, those crisp colors, like it's
really traditional. We don't have some zany team with purple
logos and crazy throwback third uniforms. Like it's Yankees Dodgers,
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and that's the way it should be.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
And you know, I went out Shrigs in nineteen Yankees
played the Dodgers. I think was their first time back
at Dodgers Stadium in a while because now interleague play
they play every single year.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
But this was like finally long overdue with getting this
in the regular.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Season, and they wore those hideous players weekend jerseys, so
like the Yankees were wearing black, and you couldn't even
read the Dodger blue logo because it was like an
all white I'm like, this is Yankees Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Do we have to do?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
We have to ruin the beautiful aesthetic with these dopey
uniforms that neither one of these teams is gonna wear.
So yeah, dude, like it's just it's like Americana, It's
like the way it should be.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yankees Dodgers the uniforms. And I'm sure Fox, your your.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Buddies and Fox are drawing over the fact that they
get more baseball with this serious let's go.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I'm sure they'd like it to go seven and to
midnight on Saturday night, Game seven with something happening.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I don't go right into you guys doing the pregame show.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Want to be up, We'll be ready. I'll be battling
you and cousin Sally and the Ringer gambling show. We'll
be welling right up against you guys. It'll be perfect.
I'm gonna say a couple names and you just do
your spiel on what you think. Aaron Judge right now,
your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Mister June. Love him.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
He's an all time Yankee. He's got a record, He's
gonna set more records. He's gonna win more MVPs.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Peter.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
You know how it is, when you're the captain of
the Yankees, what you do from April to September doesn't
mean as much as what you do in the month
of October. And this is ridiculously unfair because I'd argue
you're a Fox colleague. Mister Jeter is probably one of
the most clutch players I've seen in any sport. And
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the amazing thing about Jeter is, you know, you see
great athletes, right whether it's Michael Jordan or Tom Brady,
they're kind of exemplary regular season their exemplary postseason. Jun
is a first bout Hall of Famer, but he actually
raised his level of play in the biggest of games,
and Judge has not done that. He needs to do
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that for the I know I'm getting cliche. It matters, man,
when you're the captain of the Yankees, you gotta perform
in October.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Case closed. I look at the scoreboard the other night
and they just listed his height and weight. He's six eight,
two eighty and he hit fifty eight home runs this
year And it's like, brother, that stuff's all in the past.
If you could have a postseason moment, if you could
have a World Series moment, if you could have a
big home run that puts this team over the top. Like,
that's what Matt, that's what you know. I know his
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history and his post playing career was littered with other stuff.
But like Jim Lyrits is forever a Giant's legend, a
Yankees legend, forever, forever. You got fans who would say
Scott Brocchus is forever a Yankees legend. For that series
against the Padre is, Like that's when we remember this
stuff because I guess all the other stuff gets diluted.
Yes he's a Hall of Famer, and yes he's an MVP,
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and yes, all this stuff, but without that October moment
for Yankees fans, they're spoiled like they need the October.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, and that's what you judged on. That's what Yankee
captains a judge on. That's what monument mark.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yankees are judged one and hey, Deckie, Matt sue he's
throwing out the first pitching game five.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Now, Matt series is a tremendous, tremendous Yankee. But I
mean that World.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Series not starting three games in Philadelphia and homering basically
every single time.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I mean, that's what you're judged Onne, So got it.
It's time for Aaron Judge to go and do it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, okay, so Aaron Judge, Another Aaron, Aaron Boone. Where's
he stand right now with Yankees fans?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
So right now, mister Boone needs to go and win
a World Series to be fully embraced, and he is
going to have job security.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
He has jobs. He probably has had more job.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Security than Supreme Court justices because there are a couple
of years, Peter, where the Yankees easily could have been
within their rights to go and make a managerial change,
losing a wildcard game, that the Red Sox getting swept
by the astros Hey. Last year, they missed the postseason
all together. Now, positives for Aaron Boone. Guys love them,
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there's no getting around that his clubhouse absolutely adores them.
But there's a sense of baseball IQ and fundamentals that
have been lacking from even a team that's gone to
the World Series this year. I mean, we saw last
night with Volpi, they made two key eras in Game
one that I think were lost in the shuffle by
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his terrible managerial decision to go with nest de Cortez
over Tim Hill. But I think Boone is the sort
of manager that, yes, is going to be back next
year because the Yankees are in the World Series. They
did something they haven't done in fifteen years. But there's
a massive Yeah. But where Joe Torri won Girardi in
his second year one, you're the manager of the Yankees
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for a long period of time and you don't have
a World Series championship, Peter. You don't get that sort
of job security in most places, you know, especially with
a franchise that used to fire managers like there was
no tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So he's not exactly a beloved figure. You win and
that changes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And of course we grew up in the Billy Martin
era where Steinbrenner would fire higher Billy Martin every other year,
and you had some some different stump Merrills and don
Zimmers all the way up until we finally had Joe
Torre as the manager. The last name I'm going to
give you before we end on Yankees and quickly hit
some some New York football. Does the name Austin Copa
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Bianco mean anything to you?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Is that the guy?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
This just a guess here, This is just a guess.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Is that the gentleman who yanked the ball out of
Mookie Bets Clve yesterday?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Of course, let me give you, let me give you,
let me give you some context here. His name is
Austin Copo Bianco, which you could not make up if
you paid me a million dollars based on the image. Uh,
immediately on Good Morning Football, I say that is the
Halloween costume of the year. You're going as Austin Copa
Bianco and his sunglasses at night friend. And immediately everyone's like,
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take it down, trigger, how dare you glorify this animal?
I'm like, guy, just to say it. It's a funny
moment in time that said, tweet history or not. And
I don't know where this guy's from or what his
story is. That's his name, and apparently his Twitter handle
leaves a lot to be desired. Where do you come out?
Because Sterling and Waldman last night, we're not too or
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none too pleased with that behavior. And yet there are
some Yankee fans, a lot of guys that will see
on the street here. I'll be like that actually kickstarted
the team a little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Hey, listen, if it kickstarts the team, if you tell
me they're going to win an extra games, So we
got to sacrifice one particular fan to every game to
try to get a ball out of Mookie's cloth or
somebody's cloth for that matter. You know, I'm all for it,
but listen, initially watching it, Peter, I was like.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Mookie's in the stands. That's the you know, like you
see you don't see the replay.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
So when I first thought is, hey, you go into stands,
that that ball is just as much the fans as
it is the players.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
But Mooky clearly caught it and hanging.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And then you got like this sticky You got like
the sticky fingers of the guy trying to get the pot.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
It was. It was he had a sliding glove on,
which it is like what like high level high school
players or college or minor league players, which gives me
the feeling that Austin Coppobianco thought at any given moment
he might be inserted into the game, the Yankees might
need him because he had a professional glove on. He's
a four hundred dollars glove on.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
It was like Jim Harbaugh. You know, maybe he was
taking notes from Jim Harbaugh and your buddy who brings
the glove to the game. You never know what can
happen when you go to a baseball game. I did
not anticipate, though, that some Yankee fans sticky fingers would
be in mooki BET's hand, and you have the image
that will be seen forever now, Mookie Bets basically like, dude,
get off of me.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Get off of me for goodness sakes.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
All right, I know you're a Dolphins fan at heart
and you wear that well. I don't have any Dolphins questions.
If you want to do a Dolphins ninety second.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
They're they're gonna lose by thirty to buff Okay, just
put out the bad June Jews so.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
That you could be pleasantly surprised. That's fine. I do know, though,
that you host this podcast and you're on sn Y
all the time, and you've been on Wfan, and you've
got this great New York listenership. As fourth Wall is
torn down, are you better as a radio host and
better as a content creator in the Joe Beningo ethos
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of the world is melting and they suck and we're
gonna crush these teams. Or is it better when they're
winning football. For you, coming on to the airwaves as
someone who is serving the fans and serving as the
voice of the New York Sports Seed.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
This is an easy call for me. It's better when
they're good. It's better when they're good.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yes, there's elements of fun of how crazy and how
bizarre it can get.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
But here's what I know, Peter. If the Jets and
the Giants aren't winning, and right now they're on their way,
the Jets are two and six, how they're favored against
the Euston Texans. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Vegas maybe knows a little bit more than me, but
that as it may, you fade into the abyss once
you hit November, December and beyond.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
That is not enjoyable.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
That is not fun when you were talking about football
teams that are four and eight and five and nine
and you're trying to come up with talking points and narratives.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
No, been there, done that, man. I want teams that
are in it.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
And I think that's what makes this Jets season so
disturbing because last year at this time they had all
sorts of problems. Zach Wilson was not exactly lighting the
world on fire, but Halloween weekend they beat the Giants.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
They're really imaginable.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
They were playing games before Thanksgiving that had meaning and significance.
Now basically the Jets have to go and pull an
inside straight or royal flush to go and get themselves
in the postseason. And that's with Aaron Rodgers's with Devonte Adams,
that's with Tyron Smith and all of this talent they've
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added to the team. Peter, I was texting you back
in the summertime. You're like, dude, I thought voted the
talent they voted, but the you know what it is
though the vibe sometimes I thought the vibe was.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
High, the vibe was right. I was there, I was
on the grounds. I don't regret my decision at all.
These losses have been crazy, the Zerline misses. You talked
about Aaron Boone having a lifetime appointment as as a
manager for Greg Zerline to I think he's still here still, Why, Like.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Why, I don't get it. I don't get it, And
not only that, it's cost him a couple of games.
But then like bad teams find ways to lose. That's
that's kind of my narrative, right, So it's like if
it's not the kicker. It's Aaron Rodgers throwing a late
interception against the Vikings in a game the Vikings were begging,
begging the Jets to say, here, take it the Buffalo game,
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that New England, you have that delay game on the
two point playoff five and then allowed Jacoby Brissett, who
is a backup quarterback with no receivers, to go right
down the field and listen, I was not the biggest
Bobby Salad guy.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I was not.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
I would have made a coaching change in the offseason,
as unfair as that might have been. Putting Old Brook
in this spot has hurt the defense because she's supposed
to be drawing up the defense and doing all the
things necessary for the defense, and he's got to be
focused on tenzillion other things. It's just it keeps building
and adding, and it's like, well, when is it going
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to stop? And you could see the body language within
that awful.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
They used three timeouts in the first Quarter's let's come on,
you know, uh, let's wrap with this team. The New
York Giants Daniel Jones, Joe Shane and Brian Dable get
essentially a vote of confidence that could always be pulled
owners or pickle from John Marra before the loss to
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the Steelers primetime, but Daniel Jones is now one in
fourteen in primetime. Sekwon Barkley still has more touchdowns at
MetLife this season than Daniel Jones does. And I said
it on Good Morning Football without even looking before the game,
I could tell you Daniel Jones against the Steelers on
Monday Night is going to go oh fifteen to twenty five,
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have two backbreaking turnovers and maybe score a touchdown and
on a big third and eight is gonna fumble or
is going to complete a pass for five yards? That's
not enough and they're gonna have to you know, kick
a field goal and miss it or air punt it away.
You're six of Daniel Jones as someone who creates content
and is often in touch with the guys on the street.
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The thoughts on the Giants and Daniel Jones as we
head towards Week nine of the NFL season and the
Washington Commanders, a team they used to own, is coming
and field themselves.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I think the Giant fan is ready for a new quarterback,
but I think the Giant fan has been ready for
a new quarterback. Really going back to mid season of
last year, when it looked like in twenty two everything
had clicked for Jones.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
He has a career best season.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
They win a playoff game against Minnesota and it's like, Wow,
maybe Brian Dabele has unlocked him. Maybe he's going to
take that next step as a quarterback. He can't stay
on the field, and you nailed it with the Pittsburgh game.
It's become very predictable how the Giants are gonna lose. Yeah,
they're going to be in a game. They're going to
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move the ball between the twenties. They're not going to
finish drives. There's going to be a big turnover. There's
going to be a.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Big booboo, and that's how you're gonna lose.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Like the Bengals game, the Steelers game, Like I've seen
this game now so many times for the Giants over
the last couple of years. Last year in Buffalo, even
though Daniel Jones didn't play that game, but you get
my drift. They wanted to take a quarterback. We all
watched Hard Knocks, we all watched it. It was on
full display for everybody in New York and everybody for
America to see.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
To their credit, they were very big on Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
To their credit, Hey, Joe Shane's kid, he could come
and work for the Dolphins and help evaluate talent because
he was all over getting Jade Daniels in.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Listen, they got themselves a really good player in the
weak neighbors.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
It's not like they didn't get a high quality, high
caliber guy, but they need a quarterback, and that voted confidence.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Peter. I know you're right.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Owners are fickle. They changed their mind all the time.
Maybe I'm missing this. Maybe I'm an idiot here. I
think they're coming back.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I think they're of the mindset. Mara is like, look,
I think these guys no personnel. I think that Brian
Dable knows offensive coaching. I'm gonna give them a chance
to go and get their quarterback and see what they
can do. And inevitably, that's to me the most interesting
element that's left of this giant year, because you know
(35:54):
the Jets in the AFC, the way the AFC shakes out,
there are like four really really good teams and then
there's a bunch of maybe you're not getting any NFC.
The NFC is loaded, making the playoffs is going to
be so much more difficult, and where the Giants did
at two and six, that's the most intriguing element to me.
When Daniel Jones gets benched, then it's going to be
(36:15):
because that whole injury, you know, is better than made
the injury clause and not wanting to be on the
hook for next year and where they're going to be
pigging in the draft and who the quarterback is going
to be. But yeah, the Giant fan wants a new quarterback.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
All right, we're gonna wrap. I do have one question.
My Columbus crew beat the NYC red Bull last night.
Did you happen to catch any of that one?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I did not?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Can you give me can you give me the crumb notes?
Can you give me the give me a stat seat
on that one? Cross post games back in the day
in Syracuse when I had no you want to talk
about shows where I had.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
No clue just what I was talking talking about? Jim
Brown and lacrosse from the Syracuse fifties.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yeah, queer and face offs. I mean, dude, if you
could I used to tell that to people all the time. Pete,
if you can do lacrosse post games, you can do anything.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
No, I hear you, if you really are serious. I
like the Columbus crew. I don't even ask. I don't
love soccer, but I always like to pop in and
say this, Mandy, I let wear the jersey on air.
They're defending champions. They've got this great, rich fan base.
Red Bull came in last night being a one nothing
on their home field. A lackluster effort from the crew.
So we hit all sports here on the season with
(37:21):
Peter Schrager, and that's my analysis there, JJ, real quick,
give us the full, full, full line of where we
can see you and including on Sunday mornings, which I
gotta tell you, I'm on Fox NFL Kickoff, but I
see clips of you and Rahem Palmer and sal and
Simmons popping in and it's quite enjoyable.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
You mean, Simmons in his pajamas, just basically crashing this
set at any moment.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I appreciate that New York, New York. We were rocking.
After all the big games.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
We do a couple of pods a week, always on Sunday,
always on Thursday, and then after all these playoff games.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I mean, I'm gonna cut you off, do you feel
like you're filling that Beningo role of late night on
Sunday after the Jets, and it's like, all right, I'm
gonna be the Because you do live calls on these
Twitter spaces, which I didn't even know was possible.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Podcast it's great, Well, then we take we do them
on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
If you get there live, great, but you know, for
most people who are not going to be up at
one in the morning or twelve or whatever, yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
We post them as a pod and you get to
relive it the next morning. I love it.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
I absolutely love it because it combines like the stuff
that I do with the Ringer and it kind of
gives me that old school fa and vibe that I
had for a long time.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
So we got New York, New York.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
We got The Ringer Gambling Show, where I'm doing a
bunch of pods a week there giving out terrible picks.
It's been a so so NFL season. Got to get
our stuff together as far as that goes. And then
s Y Sports Night eleven pm, Baseball Night in New York,
and yeah, the Ringer Sunday pregame.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
At eleven am. So shakes. I'm trying to keep up
with you. You got a lot of gigs, man, that's
how it works in a business man. You got a hustle.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
You're great. I love what you do and I love
that you post your runs in the morning. It makes
me feel terrible every single time I see you that
you seventeen, you run seventy, and I'm like, how the
hell did you? Where do you find the time to
do that? Very impressive, thanks, Buddy.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I wish the golf game was as impressive as the
running splits these days.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
But you know, the Yankees and a massive distracted me.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's a good thing. Uh JJ, thank you for joining
the pod and go Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Say press, Thanks Peter, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Maybe that was indulging myself there, Aaron as a New
York resident, but I felt like that was kind of
the moment, and it's it would be fake for me
to come on here and give a twenty minute treatise
on what the Arizona Cardinals are doing with their two
straight wins. So we went with a guest talking Yankees
a little bit. We got football in at the end.
What do you think of JJ, Bob No love for
(39:50):
Drew Petsing.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Huh to the two Street wins for Arizona.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
I love JJ personally, I don't follow baseball at all,
so all of that was pure gibberish to me.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Other than the conversations about the Jets and the Giants,
so per I thought, the one interesting thing, and maybe
we'll put the clip on social is me asking what
makes for better content when they're losing or they're winning.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
I don't know if I agree with him. Some of
the stuff that goes viral is when frances is banging
his head against the wall and Beningo's going nuts in
when JJ is I think he might be he might
be saying what he thinks is the right answer. But
if they're a five hundred Giants team and they beat
the you know, they beat the Minnesota Vikings seventeen thirteen,
I don't know if it's the same reaction as when
(40:36):
the Jets absolutely implode. I think that for those talk
radio hosts, sometimes talking about the Browns in a bad
season or the Eagles in a bad season is better
than when they're just barely you know, above five hundred.
All right, love it, let's get into it. Uber eats.
It's time for delivering results. Presented by Uber eats, and
I want to discuss a team or a player that
(40:57):
delivered results from the past week, and I think I
have to look no further than the starting quarterback for
the Denver Broncos, the rookie bow Knicks Bonecks against the
Carol Line of Panthers. He threw for three touchdowns, he
had a rushing touchdown, he threw no interceptions, and he
completed seventy five percent of his passes. The Broncos are
now five and three. They're taking on the vaunted Ravens
(41:19):
this weekend, and suddenly Sean Payton's boys come marching into
Baltimore as a team with as good a record as
the Ravens, and bo Nicks is the reason why that
they've gotten any offense at all. I have to show
respect to a rookie that a lot of people didn't
think would have the same stuff as Austin, as Jaden
Daniels or as Caleb Williams. Yet bon Knicks is right
there in the conversation, and if it wasn't for Daniels
(41:40):
having this historic season, would quite possibly be our offensive
player of the year as far as rookies go. So
bow Knicks the pride of the Oregon Ducks and before that,
the pride of the Auburn Tiger. Sixty one college starts
and now eight starts into his NFL career, has five wins,
three losses, and had his best performance last weekend. Austin.
Why I keep saying the name Austin, It's because Austin
(42:02):
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Speaker 2 (42:15):
Order.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Now, all right, guys, go Yankees and enjoy your NFL Weekend.
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