Luke Kuechly talks eye-popping hits, coaching youth football, his weird trash talk

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, guys. This is Luke Keithley. I am currently
a grade school football coach at Charlotte Christian and this
is the NFL Player's Second Acts Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Thank you all for tuning in today on the NFL
Players Second Act Podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm Peanut Tillman, and this is my guy, Roman Harper.
I like the shirt and the shirt combo.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hey, man, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hair shirt combo. I guess you matched. It's camouflage the
Roman Harper.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Look, this is what I'm going for. I appreciate it.
Number one. I'm really excited about our next guest, Number one.
I know him very well personally. You do too, Yeah, man,
it's like our guy. This our guy, Our guy is
in the room. I'm so excited to share with everybody
some of the stories. And I actually learned some things
about this young man that I didn't know about. But
first and foremost, sus think the Carolina Panthers for hosting

(00:56):
us here in the Panthers Vision studio right here underground
at a Bank of America Stadium, where this young man
did a ton of work.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
So let's go. Let's jump into it.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well, I think I know all his accolades, but one
thing I didn't know. So, uh, second player to win
Defensive Player of the Year, and he won Defensive Rookie
of the Year. And he did it in back to
back seasons. Yeah, like I didn't, I don't know. That's
pretty impressive. Right now, he's the youth coach, he's the
voice of your Carolina parentthers.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Ladies and gentleman. Luke Keighley is on this show. My God,
what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's good to see you guys show. I've seen it
a lot of it. Now I get to be honest,
I know, what do you think about it so far?
Two of my guys, it's gotta be good. Two defensive guys,
offensive guys.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
On the podcast, we talk about his defense. We don't
like offensive players like we just all defense all day long.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
My only goal is to get Luke to share with
everybody some of the trash talking that my man learned
over the year.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I learned it from Roman Harper, learned it from Roman
Harper and Peanut too. You guys would just come up,
blab a little bit the offensive linement and then walk away,
and then we had to deal with this. Yeah, they
get all you get them all true angry and then
they come try to hit us, and you just be
sitting out there on the corner and I don't have
to worry about a thing.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I have to say.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
The one time I heard the probably the very first
time I heard you trash talk, I kind of I
kind of laughed because.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I laughed a lot listened to Luke talk.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Trash because it was like most people say, it's like
a m effort and like it's very like you know
what the curse word is, like you know the phrase,
And he was like.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, what damn, kind of like it.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Just didn't I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I just said that, it.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Didn't really flow.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
So when he so, I was like, wait that that
didn't even make sense, but just a lot of energy
that just got to get out, you know, I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
The best trash talk that I got from Luke Keigley
was we were playing against the Falcons and I guess
he blew by some center or something and he was like,
quit hold me.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, that's a minus. That's a minus.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Some of that stuff people say that. I said. I'm like, man,
I don't even remember saying that, but I know you
logged it in that bank of years, like, Hey, I
can't wait to tell Luke about this.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Ready, know, because Luke would keep up with mine too,
So oh my god, it's all good.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'm gonna kick this thing off right now. One hundred
and thirty one thousand followers like people follow you, one
hundred and thirty one thousand on Instagram, on the IG,
on the Gram you have absolutely zero posts. How does
one get that many followers and you haven't posted anything.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I have no idea. That's a good question. Anticipation, anticipation
for the first post that probably will never happen.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Okay, so here here's a follow up question.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
If you post or when you post, what's something that
you would post?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh? Man, I don't know. It's a good question. I
don't know what I would post.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
You know.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
The best thing about that, though, yeah, was that I
looked this up last.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Night because I'm like, Luke has that many followers. I
didn't even know Luke was on Instagram and then I
looked at it. He follows me, got your wrong?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I don't know if I follow you. He follows me.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I got you wrong?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
And I appreciate that. So he actually is paying attention
he just is like.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Just keep eyes out there.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
He's got eyes out there. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's a good It's a good resource for youth football drills.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Like Greg and I send stuff back and forth. It's
always on Instagram, like tackle drills, offensive lineman drills, different
things like that, how to teach stuff, because you in
your mind when you're coaching these kids, you're like, aren't
you just just do it?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Just do it like that?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
And then but if if it's easier, when like you
get good ideas from people that coach youth sports as well,
do they know how to do it? And you watch
these videos and you're like, yeah, that's a it's a
really good idea. So you kind of take some of
that stuff and move it towards youth football, youth football stuff,
and it's good resource for that.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I got a nice little folder of like videos football
players workouts.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I watched it.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
You know, for all a couple people. It's a good
way to steal some good information. Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Okay, so look, let's go back to this one. I
wouldn't say it was pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It was a great night.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
And that is the night that we won the NFC
Championship game versus the Arizona Cardinals in twenty fifteen. During
that game, I was making a tackle. You come by
flashing over there by sidelines. You kind of hit me.
I mean he hit me, he did, all right, and
you actually knocked So I have I had lay six

(05:38):
surgery and I have a flap that's laser onto my eye,
onto the corner of my eye, and when you hit me,
it like knocked the flap off my eye. Everybody thought
I had a concussion. I'm like, dude, I'm fine, Like
and I just can't see out of the right side
of my eye, like something's wrong over here. Just vision
was not coming back. And I went and got tested

(05:58):
and yes, the cornier comes off so I could play anymore.
What do you remember about that play that moment, and
like what did you feel?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
It was a long run down our sideline against David
Wilson and you were like tackling him, and I remember
something about like if this is him, this was you,
and I'm coming from this angle. I think the last
second like he dropped instead of hitting him, I hit you.
And I remember I hit you and I was like, oh,

(06:27):
and I saw your face through your visor and like pain.
I was like, I'm so sorry. You okay, and You're like, no,
I'm not. I'm so sorry. And then he went on
the sideline. You're like I can't see out in my
eye and I was like, what do you mean? And
TV's like you hit him in the face. I was like,
I'm sorry. Room. I was like, and the next question

(06:47):
is you can be able playing super Bowl? Yeah? That
was it, and then you played.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I did play.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
It was crazy, just because I didn't know what it was.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I it was just this part of my vision was
just gone on.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
And Luke always flies around like you never apologize for
any of that friendly fire stuff, nor should you, but
I was. It really made me feel good that after
the game at halftime, when everybody came in like that
was the biggest thing, and what we don't even you
guys weren't even focused on the game. You were a
little bit way more concerned with how I was doing,
how I was feeling. So I appreciated that and I

(07:21):
was just like, man, y'all, just go win this game.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
We're gonna be just fun.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
You remember you remember to pick six off that that
same game?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yes, so they ran that same play earlier in the game.
I remember we were sitting meetings and it was like
a I don't know if it was like a third
down or pass install, and that I think I think
it was John Brown lined up in the slot and
he would run anytime he lined up there in three
by one, he'd run like a ten yard curl. And
back when we were playing quarters, we had a call
him through by one with speed room oh box, a

(07:46):
fax call, Oh.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, facts, fast fax call. Yeah that I mean somebody
backside is ready to take it.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yes, so I could push him over the top.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
So now Luke can stay long and be ready to.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Stay so I can push him over the top. And
they come out in that formation early in the game
and completed one for a first down, and like I knew,
I knew it was coming.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
You knew it.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
And he just put his foot in his putting his
foot in the ground and like pivoted away. Carson Palmer
put it like low outside completion and in my helmet,
I had the mic and I was like, that was
at play. So I'm like, I know, I know. So
then they came out at the end of the game
like that, they line up in that same formation we
got quarters again, we had another fact call pushed it
over the top, and so I'm like, I'm gonna sit

(08:21):
if he runs a go and they complete that, I
don't care. I'm gonna jump right in front of this ball.
And it was like perfect everything happened, you know, like
one of those plays where everything happens perfectly. Oh yeah,
that's exactly exactly what happened. So they ran it earlier
in the game. I missed it, which was annoying because
we had talked about it all week. Yeah, three by
one speed speeding slot, we get a quarter. If we're
in quarters and make a FAXT call, Kurt's gonna sit backside,

(08:43):
You're gonna push through that inside shoulder. I was like,
all right, great, and then they hit it and then
I get it out of my headset and then go
to the sideline and out pools the surface up. I'm like,
I'm good, bro, Like I got it. I already know.
I already know what you exactly you're gonna say, but
he's gonna say it again just to be annoying, and
TD TD like look at me like like TD, I know,

(09:06):
like I know so. But it's one of those things
that they ran it again and it worked out the
second time.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I think the thing I remember most about to play,
not you picking it off, is the fan falling in
the stands.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
You know what I remember most is you on the
sideline with yeah, there's a great there's a great picture
of you with your crutches like this yelling. I'm like,
that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
If you only knew, and I feel like I'm a cry,
but if you only knew how bad I wanted to
play in that game, like, oh my god, like it was.
I was mad I couldn't be out there. But at
the same time, I was so excited for you, for you,
just for the entire team, like I was just like
it was I wanted at that point, I think I
wanted it more for you and you and TD and

(09:52):
Cotch and everybody can like I wanted it for I
wanted it more for y'all because it was just like
I'm I think that's how close and how tight that
twenty fifteen parents. It was amazing.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
I gotta tell you one other like this is probably
the most impressive Luke Keithley play I ever witnessed with
my own eyes. And we're playing against Dallas and we
were had like a three by one and we were
like in a quarters type concept. You checked it the
cover two, so now and I knew it was a
dig coming, so I would normally be ready to drive

(10:26):
the dig and have the corner overlap over the top.
You checked it cover too, so then but you knew
that play like you knew the play Luke, like, so
that was you called it?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
It was an interesting place. So we lined up and
it was like that remember that pressure that Thomas would
blitz and we dropped the face the end. It was
like a simulated pressure. Yeah, and so TD was creeping
into it. Romo saw it and slid the line like
pre snap, and TD looked at me. He's like, I'm
not I'm not butzing. All right, we wanna do? This
is all the conversation you have pre snap, like super

(10:58):
conversational ts like I'm not butzing. I was like, what
do you want to do? He's like, you want to
check cover two? I was like sure, why not? So
tds TD started it because they swung the line this
way because Romo came out and if I'm Romo, TD
was lined up here the three by ones here, and
he looked and he said like, hey, fifty eight's butts
and slid the line and he knew that the d
N to the front side was dropping, so basically he

(11:20):
slid full protection. So he had hid like five on four,
cut the d N free and pushed it back there
so he didn't have to worry about it. And so
then off that they ran charger. It was three on vertical,
two SAT and then he won run the dig yep,
and TV's like, I'm not butitzing. I was like, all right,
we'll play cover two and at that three by one
set like when teams, I feel like when teams run

(11:41):
that play, when they run a guy straight down the hash,
it doesn't put any pressure on the safety, it puts
pressure on the safety and when he tries to bend it.
So like when you're running a vertical to three if
you run straight down the hash, like no one runs
a vertical like that.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
No, they're doing a real vertical your threat.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
And then so he cut right down the hash and
I'm like, he's not, that's not a route. So then
like you push through that, and then that guy ran
to sit and I was like, I'm just gonna jump.
I'm gonna jump the dig and hope they run a
dig and if they don't, like I'm gonna get an earful,
but like.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
He threw, I don't care. It was literally.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
It was.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
It was so beautiful for me because I'm like, I'm
getting ready to say, I'm like, oh, I think I
know what's coming.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
So I'm ready, like, oh, I'm read you're like this,
And then all of a sudden, Luke checks.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
I'm like, all right, I gotta played a little bit softer,
and so now I'm just dlopping back and I just
see all this thing unfold righting from me. I see
the spot, I see the vertical, and Witting's not fast,
so he ain't like really no threat to me. They're
not looking at him, and Luke just sits right there
and runs right over here and just picks a dig
off like he just knew it was coming.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
You know what. You know what's funny is like TD
and I would always like we could check it, like
mcd's like, you guys check it whatever. I never thought about,
like what if we were playing that defense and you
knew it was covered, and you knew and you knew
it was a dig and you're the rotational guy and
you're like, bro, I'm gonna step right in front of
this place. Really, we're gonna check it, like you're gonna
jump right in front of it. And then we check

(13:03):
covered too, and you're like damn. I was like yeah,
basically like TV and I are like, man, screw you room,
like we're gonna jump on this plane and you're not.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
And so you think you would have called it off
if Ron would have said, hey, no, no, no, no,
don't don't.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Know, I'd be like, you can talk, you can talk
to TV because he's got to run right into Zach Martin.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
So, oh, that's funny. What do you think?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (13:23):
We all have had great careers, We've all made thousands
of plays in this league, right, I have mine, you
have yours, You've you've got yours. What do you think
one of the best highlights you've had?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know what, Peanut? I think there was one. So
when Peanut came in, you came in just for that
first year, yeah, and and like everybody was like Greg
and all these guys like man, wait too, way too
see Peanut around the ball. It's like, great, Peanut comes in,
Like I can't wait to see him. And then you
had all these arm braces and doubt, all kinds of
I'm like this, I can't run. And we were playing

(13:57):
we were playing a preseason game. I don't remember who
we were playing, but they were going down so like
on our sideland they're going to the right and they
ran like a like a scene ball backside and they
threw it up and this guy goes up, he grabs it,
catches it, and it's almost like you let him catch it.
He comes down, Peanuts sticks his hand in there and

(14:18):
just like rips the ball out. And it was like
a stupid play. But I was like because I watched it,
because I threw the ball was over my head and
I was watching it and I saw Peanut running. It's
almost like peanuts mindset was like let him catch it
and then just take it from him. So this guy
catches the ball, Peanut like grabs him falls to the
ground and I see Peanuts arm like this rips it out,

(14:39):
and then all of a sudden he gets up like,
oh my gosh, he's got the ball and starts running
like and I was like, okay, this is it. It
makes sense now, Yeah, it makes sense now. And that
was a player that never gets counted because it was
the preseason, preseason, but I watched it and I was like,
all right, makes sense. Now makes sense now? That was
like TV. The first time I met Thomas watch him

(15:00):
in drills. It was coming off his knee and everybody's
like TV's so explosive, blah blah blah, and I like
watch him go over bags and like bag drills, I'm like,
I'll see it, I'll see it. And then the first
game of the season, we played Tampa and he lined
up as a gunner and he decapitated this guy the
first game of the season, and I was like, yeah, okay,

(15:23):
I'm so old. That makes sense. It makes sense. Now
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
So what was your highlight?

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Oh man, you have a ton So what is your
favorite play? My favorite play.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
One that just sticks out, like one of the first
ones that comes to mind.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
We played Cincinnati and Cincinnati twenty fourteen, and you know,
like when you watch tape and you're waiting on a
play and it never and it comes and you see it.
Why So I watched it during the week and then
the night before the game, I was watching tape with
mcdee and they lined up in the set and it
was like cracked toss like three bow one cracked toss
and I've been two by two but it's to our

(15:59):
left and it was Giovannie Bernard. It was like one
of those plays where you see the formation like it's
the right call for you to make a play on
the ball right and this guy motions in and you're like,
oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think this is it.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I think this is it, and like you know who's
going to block you, like you know who's assigned to
block you right, and it was like the center and
it's like if I just move over here, he's like
he just can't get there, like he just can't get there,
and so but you have to time it up just right,
so like the crack guy blocks the outside back or
not you so like you have to time it up
so like he's stole the widest guy and then it

(16:32):
gets cracked and you run right by him. It was
like one of those things like let him get cracked
and then go And it was like he didn't see that.
Giovanni Bernard didn't see me come in. It was like perfect,
like full speed on our sideline. I hit him good.
But it was one of those plays where everything happens
perfect you saw it on tape, you saw it the
night before the game, the exact same motion. Everything made sense.

(16:53):
We were in a good defense and you make a
play that's like that. I love that.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Well, if we should already understand how great your memory
is in your football acumen, just by you remember numbers players,
like every situation, you just got them banked.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I think everybody. I think every football play a lot of.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
A lot of I think a lot of us can do.
I'm not not I'm not trying to just credit you,
but yeah, I think Luke's he's he's still another level.
It's a little different.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, I think guys just remember, like if it's important
you remember it. You know, like football has always been
so important to me that like I remember, like just remember.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
It takes you back, though, because when you tell the
stories as you're telling and I'm like, oh, yep, I
know the formation, I know the set, I know the call,
thanks call he yep, Like it's yeah, you you do
a really good job of painting a picture taking taking
us back.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Agreed to that? What was your welcome to the NFL moment?

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Does Lukey even have ye?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
So?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
First, first I'll give you like a practice example, there's
like three I'll give you there was. So the first
one was it was like it was like two by
two in Sason three boy one. I was a backside
was in the backside B gap and the tight end
was to the right, and they ran zone to the
tight end and I'm in the B gap. I got
stay in the B gap. And usually in college you
just like run to the ball like that backside tackle

(18:11):
is not in play. I remember they snapped the ball.
I was like, why zone? All right, I'm just gonna
run over there. And I turned to run and like
there's this gigantic human that's just standing there. Oh they
get they get into level. Couldn't. He was huge.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
It was Jeff Otah.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
And he was our he was one of our tackles,
and he was big, he was athletic, and he was
just wide. And I remember I was like, whoa, I'm
not used to Usually it's some like guy that doesn't
understand angles. He's not fast, he hasn't been around. So
that that first day of ota Is, I was like,
things are faster. The first game of the season, we
played Tampa Bay in Tampa and they had a fullback

(18:49):
that was just that just they ran lead week the
whole game and just mauled me, mauled me, and I
was like, go, like this is guys are more physical,
Guys are stronger, Guys are bigger. Like you got to
learn how to like thump guys. But the first thing
that I got when I got hit hard, we played
Seattle my rookie year. It was like at four o'clock

(19:11):
game and Russ was like Russ was scrambling to our
right and got out of the pocket. I was like
really playing cover three and he's probably fifteen yards away
from me, and he starts running directly at me, and
I'm running right at him, and I'm like, he'll kill
this kid, kill him. And I'm running full speed. Mike
Robinson and I was running and like we got like

(19:33):
this far away from each other and Russ goes this
way and I turn and it's like Mike rob running
mock five at my face and he hit me. He
hit me so hard, like he hit me so hard.
I didn't even feel it, and I just was like
on the ground and you guys know Mike rob at all, yeah, yeah,
And he just like looked at me and just like

(19:56):
like smiled like he got like I got you, Like
that's how we he didn't. He wasn't talking junk. He's
just like I gotcha, yeah. And I was like, you
can't even say anything. You can't like got to swallow
your pride, just like like try to. And you're just like, yeah,
got me. And so then I've seen him. I've seen
him since. I was like, what's up, Mike, And he

(20:17):
smiles at me. I'm like, I know why you're smiling.
He's like, I know I said when you hit me
that one time. He's like, yep, I said that was
a good one, clean shot, nothing dirty about it. He
just got me. He caught me and like talk about
head on swivel like that was the first time. And
I was like, freaking Russ set me up. Set me
up too, set me up. Like he knew Mike was coming.

(20:38):
He's running at me like this moron, like my run
right at of me. Cut inside. I looked like this, And.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's if it makes you feel any better.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
I decleted Mike rob no doubt in the single Bowl,
destroyed him easy walking. I freaking smoked him right at
the one yard line.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
As a fullback right playing quarterback quarterback, he played quarterback.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
The Penn State.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, he thought he had an easy walk in like
everybody's gonna just stop. No no brood zone like he
Rome didn't care.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Roma hit. Do you remember you hit Justin Britt that
one time against Seattle at home? Oh yeah, I do
know outside Play and TD smoked Turban. Yeah, Roman hit
dressing Britt. You hit him so hard.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I was like, oh, that's a that's a lineman to
you guys.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
You almost like yeah, like you kind of feel bad.
You're like you are right, Okay, I like it.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
I like it though. You you you bring the rock
star room. That's what I appreciated that about you as
a as a safety, Like you just didn't give a damn.
You just was like COmON Cozie styles, sacrifice my body,
just like so what then you got the guns showing
you was just.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Room you would always have. Like you didn't walk around
like you didn't walk around like normal. You're always You're
always walking around like this.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
It's like your nickels down. You just had like you
was like like you was swollen.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
You're like trying to flext your traps, your shoulder heads,
like you had this different like walking you had that
Advisor and you kind of always let people know what
was you wear that old helmet to. I did.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
It was a very old, that bold helmet.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
You came and you can't wear that helmet anymore anymore.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I think when I came here, they were like, you
need to get a new helmet. I was like, absolutely not,
I want the old.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
You had that old helmet. And Peanut had like that
grade school mouthpiece.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
He had the bowling bite, yeah, attached, like.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Bro, come on, the only people that can wear an
attached bowling bite like that is a running back. But
you didn't even have to lip guard on it. You
just had like, oh school, that was like the fifth grade.
That's like the first thing you go home. You heat
it with your mom. Don't bite down too hard, you
might bite through it.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
The bowling bite that was Peanut. Yes, so look I
had just for y'all listen, offend himself now. It is defendable. Not.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
The reason I had it was because I had like
the cool mouthpiece that you could take out. I used
to get so tired. I just want to be able
to spit it out castro okay, all right, and then
just put it right back. And when I just I
lost it. One time, like I was a big teeth guy,
like I don't want my teeth to chip or anything,
like when I hit you something I.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Need like nervous. That was like my mouthpiece was like
my nervous tick, Like, yes.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
I was going to speak about that. You can finish.
But Lot you always had his mouth He was in
and out all.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
The time, in and out all the time.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
It was like it.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
And he did more talking than anybody on defense. But
you always had it in your hand, pointing and going
on and trying to throw it back in the last second.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I couldn't do that though, That's why I had the mouthpiece.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
It was just right before the season got started. It
was or the game the play got started. It was
like the final Like here we go, just throw it
in right through the side.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, Like I can't put it through the front.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
You gotta put you can't put it underneath, you gotta
put through the side side.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
That's why, that's why I like that.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
I've been up for the Hall of Fame for a
couple of years now, and I never thought about it
until a reporter did this report and then my name
was on like the new guys who are nominated for
the year, and then I started thinkings like damn, I'm
actually up for the Hall of Fame, Like it's kind
of cool. I never thought about it until my name
popped up. Make sure you're eligible. Have you thought about

(24:20):
what it would be like to go into the Hall
of Fame?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I don't. I So next year, like you said, it's
the first year, I'm gonna go up to see Pep.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, so Pep.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Gets in this year. I think you get up there,
I think you're like, like you see it and you're like, WHOA,
that would be really cool. I think that's kind of
I think that it gets more real that it's an
like it's an opportunity. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen, yeah,
but it's you get up there, and I think you
just like you see the guys that are like getting
in this year, and it's two guys like I played

(24:50):
with Pep and then Devin Hester, Like obviously there's other
guys like Devin Hester was like the first guy that,
like I remember talking to Greg about him that like say,
say we were playing shoot, what would it be we'd
be we'd be on defense, Think about we got a
three and out? What do we always do? You come

(25:10):
sit down on the bench, you get a drink of water.
Like they punt the ball away, You're like, whatever, he
gets fifteen yards, good job. But like pet Hester was
the first guy that like you know what it was
like you come off the field, you don't go sit
on the bench.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
You're watching it.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
You're you're standing there and you're like, what's he gonna do?
What's he gonna do? And that to me is cool.
So like see those guys get recognized for like changing
the game. And then Pep Like Pep's just like a
different a different breed of dude. But I think you
get up there, you start to see like, man, this
would be really cool.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Have you ever been to the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 1 (25:47):
You ever been in I went to Canton when I
was in grade school?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, and experience.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, it was cool. It was awesome. Like how old
were you It's probably like in third grade? Yeah, I
went up there, and you get to see I love
I've always loved football. So you get to go up
there and see like, oh, these are the pants that
Dan Marino wore, Like whoa, and you like maybe one
day I can wear those pants. But they were like
old school, you know, like the old school pants. They

(26:13):
had like the lace up in the front with like
the huge belt and they were like this long. Yeah,
so like those are. And then you go in there
and you see like all the super Bowl rings. They
have all the super Bowl rings from every super Bowl ever,
and like you can look at them and see how
they've from the first super Bowl to the most recent one.
Whenever I was there and you're like, man, you think
in your mind, like everybody, every kid thinks like maybe

(26:34):
one day I'll get one of those. Yeah, that'd be cool.
And then just all the memorabilia and stuff to read
about in the history of football and all the busts,
and like seeing the guys that you know, you grew
up listening to your parents think talk about it's just cool.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I think it'll hit different now because you've played with
the guy and you know a couple of players. I
was kind of like that we win in five, like
the one of the one of the preseason games. Didn't
really think a ton of it. And then when Brian
got inducted, you go back, Brian Lacker, and you go back.
And then I got a chance to meet all of

(27:13):
the current Hall of famers and they knew who I was,
and I was just like, oh my god, like this
is this is that guy? This is Tim Brown, this
is Jay Rice is you know what's up? And you know,
bear right, excuse me, Barry Sanders And you get there
and you're just like, oh my god. Like remember when
we were in Detroit. Yeah, brom and I were so
geeked to meet Barry Sanders. Like we we went out

(27:35):
and we're taking selfies and I was like, bro, that's
Barry Sanders, Like that was my childhood idol. So when
you go you're just.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Like, I feel how you're talking about it is like
when your first time, like you get into a locker
room when you got drafted, like and you show up
in Chicago in New Orleans, Like when I got here,
you're like but like you can't, like you're trying to
be cool, but you're like he like I remember he
walked up to me and he's like, Hey, what's up.

(28:03):
I'm Smitty. I was like, what's up. I'm Luke, Like
trying to be cool, but like know in the back
of your mind, like that's the first time I met Irlacker. Yeah,
we played. We played in Chicago, and Greg was really
good buddies with him because Greg got traded two years before,
and it was in the point in the season where
I was like, I was like, hey, like I felt comfortable,

(28:25):
like hey, Greg, can you introduce me to Brian? Like
who calls him Brian? But I was He's like, of course.
So after the game, I show up and I walked up.
Greg was talking to him like Brian's here, and I
came up like from our sideline, say hi, and he
turned around. I was like, hey, Brian, I'm Luke. Nice
to meet you. And I was like, what sounds like
a dork and Greg was like whatever, He's like, hey,

(28:49):
what's up man, It's nice to meet you too. I
was like okay, fine. I turned around and like walk
off the field, and I was like, you know when
you play it back in your mind, like it never
goes yeah, Like you know when you like played up
in your mind like man, I'm gonna what's up black
like yeah, yeah, yeah, yo, man, like you good football player.
And then you go up there and you're like, Hi,
I'm Luke, Nice to meet you. And then he's like

(29:09):
he looks at you, and you're like, all I see you,
and you like, as you're walking into the tunnel, you
don't know like should I Like you're kind of nervous,
like should I walk? Should I like jog? And then
you're like you walk and then you jog in you
walk and you jog. You kind of you're just like, guys,
gotta get off this field, man, I'll mess it all up.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
That's so good for most people need to know that
because most people think we all just like treat each
other the same, and it's not like.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Fans of other fans.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Though we are fans of other players, but you never
want to be the you don't want to be a
fan boy.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I was like, oh my god, that's looky. What's like
Matt Forte? Yeah, yeah, Like we went to dinner before
the game, and so Greg's like buddies with all these guys. Yeah,
So we go to dinner and like Greg's like, hey,
you want to come to dinner with me. I'm like sure.
So we show up and we're sitting at the table
and like Matt Forte is like across the table like
three three, like seats down. The whole time, I'm like,
play in tomorrow. But like big fan of Matt Fote.

(30:02):
Like my roommate in college. My roommate in college is
a big, a big Bears fan, so he always talking
about Matt fourte and like Matt was the first guy
like big running back but like good wide zone runner,
but like could catch the ball, catch the ball the
backfield like big, and like you always just trying to
play it cool. And then you get in the game
and like the first time he gets the ball and

(30:24):
like somebody tackles him, like you kind of like want
to be close to him when he stands up so
you can be like and you get up there him.
I thought he was so like your rookie year. It's
like all like first that's very true. And so you're
like trying to figure out, like the biggest guy is
he physicals you da da da. It's like when you

(30:44):
saw Barry Sanders, like you're like a little kid again,
which is cool.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's so cool that part.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
And so you know, we talked about the Hall of Fame,
opportunity and people that were like game changers and Luke,
I'll be honest with you. I tell everybody you're the
best linebacker I've ever played with.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Agree on the.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Same side with and seeing my own eyes, and that
just takes me back. I had to write a couple
things down because I actually studied Luke Keigley for the
first time and just didn't go it like I just
know Luke.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
It's fine. He's like the nicest person ever.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
But on top of all those things, I was there
in twenty thirteen when you played against the New Orleans
Saints and you hauled off and had twenty four tackles
one interception.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
You literally hit everything moving that day.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
I don't know what was in you that day, but
that very next year I was like, dude, I'm trying
to go there, and it was because of your performance
and what I saw you do that day, So I
don't that was one thing. The twenty four tackles absolutely amazing.
That'sh went back to you. Nothton said he had twenty six.
I don't know if you know that. It's like an
NFL record.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
He'd had eighteen I think that day and a pick.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
So everybody was balling.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Everybody was baling. That's why you left.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
That's what I was like, dude, I gotta get out
of here, all right. But in college, Luke, this is not.
You just didn't show up being a baller in the
league like we all thought you did.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
But in college you bawled.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
You went from a three star at Saint X in Cincinnati,
so you landed at BC. You started eleven games because
Herzlik had cancer, so you stepped right in, dude. As
a freshman, you had one hundred and fifty eight tackles.
As a sophomore, you had one hundred and eighty three tackles.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
How about you said as a freshman, say that one
hundred and fifty eight tackles as.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
A freshman as a true freshman, that's a lot of times.
You had one hundred and fifty eight tackles.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
All right. I know you don't like bragging about this.
You never tell anybody you do it, bro all.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Right, you had one hundred and eighty three tackles as
a sophomore. At one point you had twenty one straight
games with ten plus tackles heading into.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Your junior year.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
This is all your first two years of college. You
were up for the buckets, all these other things that
you want. You won the buckets that year, and then
as a junior you broke the record and had one
hundred and ninety one tackles as a junior on a
four and eight team. The record for the NCAA is
one hundred and ninety three tackles in a season.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
You didn't have a bowl game, or you would have
broke it.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
This is just something you always do. How have you
always had this knack for the football? The best thing
about that was Dick Buckets actually gave you the war
two weeks before the war was actually supposed to be presented.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, it was No. I think it's super dose.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I found all this out about Louke Keithley. I had
no idea.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
I had zero clue.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
I think you guys would agree. I think football is
a lot of its situation. Like you got to be
in the right situation. So the defenses that I've always
played in have been advantageous for Like my playing style
put me in the middle of a four to three
and everything's inside out to the football. So I think
situation helps a lot. And I had when I got
to BC, I had great older guys. We had a

(33:45):
great guy named Wes Davis, like U ro smart older guy,
great teacher, could get guys lined up and just like calm. Yeah,
because I'm not sometimes very calm. No.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
When I got here, that was one of the biggest
compliences game, Like, dude, you just it just helped so
much in the back.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
To just like keep it calm, We're good, keep it calm.
And I Wes Davis was a guy that was super
super good. I had a great coach, Bill McGovern. Fast
forward to I come to Carolina. It was like four
to three. Got to play in the middle. Mcdee was great. Obviously,
coach was great, and then I had like I had Thomas,
I had John Beeson, we had Chuck. Then on offense

(34:24):
it was like Greg Gross Khalil. We just had dudes
that made all you had to do is play football. Yeah,
you didn't have to worry about anything else because if
you had a question it got answered. It's like all
you had to do is play football. And then once
you get to just being able to play football, it
was like how well do you prepare? Like I love
that stuff like that was my favorite thing about football

(34:44):
was like get doing practice, go sit in there, watch
tate learn, like do it at your pace. And then
I think the thing about tape is like boring, boring, boring, boring.
And then you go to a game and you like
see four or five plays and you're like, damn, I
watched that. Yeah, and then it's like boom boom boom,
make a play and like you guys know, football is

(35:05):
like you make three plays that changed it course of
the game, no doubt, and you just hope that you
can be on the good side of those plays. So
I think for me, I think situationally, like my defenses
were always advantageous to me. We were always really good
upfront in college and at Carolina with you know, starring
KK and Dwan and Kyle Love. I'm probably missing some guys,

(35:27):
and then we had great older guys and our coaches
did a great job of always making sure we were prepared.
So like Mick d was always like what do you like?
What don't you like me? I don't like this, we
like that, blah blah blah out. I had spent a
majority of my career with our whole come my favorite. Yeah,
great teacher, great on the sideline, really good adjuster, really calm,

(35:49):
like in my headset good like little snippets of information.
We actually played Arizona in the playoffs twenty so it
would have been it's been twenty fifteen playoffs, so the
year before, so twenty fourteen, it was the playoffs were
obviously in fifteen. Is the end of the game and
they need to play and we're in Cover two and

(36:12):
he gives me the call and he's like, hey, he's like,
watch Fitzgerald in the slot on a scene. All right, cool,
that's like all we said. He said, hey, Cover two,
tell TV this. He said, watch fits in the scene
at number two. It's like perfect. So they break the huddle,
it come out and three by one, Larry's in the
scene and I was like all right. And so they

(36:35):
run a seam ball and it's like you guys know
how it is, like stuff happens like in slow motion,
like perfectly. I'm running the scene, the ball gets thrown.
I was like, no way, no way, He's freaking perfect.
And so I'm running, I jump up, I hit it,
Trey catches in the end zone. Meals like game over.

(36:56):
And so then I come run into the sideline. There
was like great job, Blue and Alice standing on the
sideline like just waiting waiting for me to be like thanks,
al And He's just just sitting there behind everybody like
sitting at me like this and I'm like, thanks, Al,
He's like, I got you. But like I just football

(37:19):
is such like a situational thing to have success. Like
some guys like Trump that I was. I think more
of a product of like a great situation here in Carolina, right,
it was a real situation. I think it's real though,
Like you guys would agree, No.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I agree with that. I agree with that. One of
the craziest things about this sport is you never get
to finish the way you want to. Yeah, Like my
last play in this stadium tor an Aco, and I
was done, and I knew marcrew was over. Did my
little retirement video and things like that. You same way.

(37:54):
Kind of injuries kind of led to retirement. And I
know in in your retirement video you said I know
in my heart it's the right thing to do. Yeah,
why why did that make you say it?

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I just love football like I love playing. I enjoy it,
like I love I love this team. Yeah, I love
this organization. I love the city. I love like the interact,
like I love just going in and like being around
the guys, like I love the whole sea, like I
love the whole yearly process from like training or OTA's
where it's like back to school and it's like serious,

(38:28):
but it's like not that serious because you already know
the defense because it's the seventh time they've installed it,
and you're just with your boys and like you're working
on stuff and getting better. And then then in like
the time between that and training camp, it's like boom,
I really got to rip offseason workouts. And then training
camp shows up and it's like like then now you're
like kind of getting excited the seasons here, and then
you play a season. It's freaking awesome, and you're around

(38:48):
the guys and you're traveling, you're going to games and
you get to play guys. If you love the game,
you love the game. And I loved it, and I
think I was really sad because it's final, Like you're
dumb football, Like you're done, Like you don't you can't
go like play pick up basketball. You can't like if
you're a golfer and you retire from playing golf, you
go play golf, like you can't play football anymore. Like

(39:10):
it's done, Like football is over, and I think it's
just very final, and it like you spent so much
time growing up and playing football and then all of
a sudden, it's like gone, You're like, damn, I can't
play football anymore.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
I want to know this, Luke, because I figured you'd
be sad, but I would like to know the reason
why you thought it was done. Like was it because
of injuries and you're like, you know what, I'm scared
of that part of it, or is it because you
thought like maybe I slipped in my game was starting
to go down.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I just wasn't. I wasn't able to play. I think
I had some stuff that was bugging me, and I
just knew that the team, like this is what the
team expects from me, And if I know I can't
give them that, then I'm not doing anybody any face.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
It was exactly what I thought it was.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, like like mentally, like I can still play, but
like physically I've got certain things that like are gonna
prevent me that I that won't get better, Like they're
not gonna get better. Yeah, like I'm fine, but like
they're not gonna get better. So like I can't go
out there and like maybe get hurt again or like
turn something down or like I'm not gonna run through

(40:18):
that guy like I used to and selfishly it's like,
maw dude that I'll go play seventy percent and like
be around the guys and blah blah blah. But like
in your heart, you're like, man, I can't do that
because they're relying on me to be here, like Shack,
like they're running a gap scheme. Boom, I got to
bang that guy back to Shack, like Shacks expecting me

(40:39):
to do that, and if I, man, I turn it down,
put Shack in a bad spot, which puts our defense
in a bad spot, which puts the whole team in
a bad spot. It's just not I don't think it's
fair to anybody. If you know in your heart you're like, man,
I can't do it anymore, then you're done.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, so once so once you retired. I know, for me,
I thought I had it kind of figured out, and
then actually being retired, I'm kind of trying to figure
it out and go through that whole transition that process.
Do you think you had it figured out once you're retired?

Speaker 1 (41:11):
No, because I thought it was. I didn't think I
was going to be done. When I got done. I
thought I would have kept playing. So you know, it's
one of those things I think you, I think it's fine.
I didn't. I didn't know what I was doing, but
I think you just got to try to figure it out.
So like I worked for a team, I worked for
the team in the front office for a year. That
didn't really do anything for me. Like it was great,
I learned a ton, I had a great experience, like,

(41:33):
but I knew. I was like, man, this isn't for me.
So then the next year I loved I loved the hunt.
I loved the bow hunt in the fall, and I've
never been able to do that. So that next year
I did that. And then then after that was over,
that was probably took me into like January, and I
was like, man, I need to like find something to
like really do. And so then I just started. I
did the radio with the team, which is awesome. I

(41:55):
started coaching a football team, a youth football team with Greg.
We're on her third year doing that.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
And he's very known around the city too. Luke and
Greg they.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Are travel We got Stu now, yeah, there's even a
team Charlotte Christian right, sharlt Christian. Yeah, and Stu's freaking awesome.
Like it's one of those things where you think you
know a lot about football, and then like you get
around like I'm used to like teaching running back, like boom,
here's your steps like blah blah blah, how you hold

(42:24):
the ball, how you get the handoff? What you're looking at?
And then Stu gets in there and you're like, I
don't know, I don't know anything, but yeah, back to
your your questions, like I still haven't like I'm still
like I'm still looking for like what it is. And
I think that's fine, but I think you just have
to continue to try stuff and continue to explore stuff
and eventually you figure out what it is.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
So what about you football? That's kind of like got
you going, like what is it? I think, because I
think it scratches the it's.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
For you because what people don't know. I don't know
if everybody knows.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
But Luke is loose, the one that doesn't have kids
out there as well. So Luke is just being a
great friend and a great teacher being around these youth,
these young people, these young kids, and do they understand
like that.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
You are you and that you've been around And.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I think how old are the kids. They're in seventh
and eighth grade. Okay, so they were around they were
probably with six or seven when we were playing. Yeah,
so like we're they'd like know that we played. I don't.
I don't know. I think I think that they're just
we're just their coaches. And but I'll tell you what,
Like everyone's always like it's so nice that you coach
these kids, and I'm like, like I told you, you

(43:33):
don't understand, Like it's so fun. Like game plan, Like
Greg and I. Greg and I have conversations for like
a half hour on the phone about like, hey, should
our guy line up in the C gap or is
he a D gap? Is he head up? Like all right,
if he lines up heads up and he stands inside,
does it we soft on the edge? Like all this stuff?
And then and then the game like you show up.
We play on Saturday mornings. Sin it's the first thing

(43:54):
on Saturday morning. And it's awesome cause it's like I
can't sit around. It's more nerve wracking than code, which
it is to be a player, because like I'm sitting
there like before the game, like I've got like my
whole folder of like stuff, and like by the end
of the end of before the game, it's like destroyed
because I'm like folding it. I'm like nervous. I'm like
trying to figure out, like how are we going to

(44:16):
be today? Is our game playing good? I mean they're twelve,
Like is our playing good? Like do we get Like
the biggest thing you want to do is make sure
you give the kids an opportunity to have success. That's it,
you know what I mean, That's it. And it's fun
to like, you know, we handed out helmets like you
guys know, it's like you.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Know what it's like, and all these kids like.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
They're all trying to get like speed flexes. That's like
the new Riddell helmet, and so we had every kid
I think got a speed flex, but when they walked
in there were some of the old ride Ol speeds
like no flex and all the kids are like like
you can hear them in the back. I won't get
that one, and so like, but it reminds you when
you were a little kid again of like playing football,

(44:58):
and like they play full cause they play football because
they love it. And like now they're in a grade school,
so we practice in the high school's practicing like the
varsity teams on the other side of the field, and
you remember when you're growing up, you're like, man, like,
one day, I want to be I want to be them. Yeah,
like I want to be I want to be those kids.
And so it kind of takes you back to what
it's like to be you know, when you got your

(45:18):
your helmet and you got your shoulder pads and you
went home and like you just roar it around the
house because like you were like made up, you made
up these stupid reasons why but you just wanted to
wear Like, yo, mam, I gotta get used to wearing
my I gotta get used to wearing my gear.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
You gotta wears a TV in my helmet.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
You're like, and they're like, what do you know? You don't,
but you just wanted to wear it, you know. And
like they had the same helmets the older kids have.
So you get the game plan, you get the call defense,
you get to coach these kids, like you get to
see them get better. Yeah, it's just it's it's I
think it's just as fun for us it is for
the kids, for sure. I know.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
One of the things I remember Rivera saying when we're
here is be where your feet are at. You say
that all the time. I mean, we've loved that. I
love that quote. Yeah, so you're the coach. What's one
of the things you've tried to instill in these young kids,
Like what's a quote or was something that you say
all the time?

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I think effort. I think your effort is a decision
that you make, like you might get beat that's cool.
But we just teach like effort inconsistency, and like we're
not going We're gonna teach you how to do it
what we think is the right but there's always a
million ways to do it, but we think is the
right way. And the reason that we're teaching you that
way is for you to have success. So like we're

(46:35):
going to be consistent on you. We're going to tell
you when you did a good job, when you didn't
do a good job, We're going to try to make
sure that, hey, this is what happened, this is what
we can do to get better, and these are our
principles and why we teach it this way, Like especially
on defense, it's like progression, like at corner, it's like
we're getting crushed on like smash concepts. So it's like, hey,
progression one, you're on one in your back pedal, he sits,

(46:58):
looked at two, open up, come right to you. He
goes away, squeeze. So it's like for us, it's like
your effort is a decision you make and then just
being consistent and listening, Like if you do those things,
you're good. And I think all these kids look for
is they they want to know like who's in charge.
They want to know like what's expected, and they want

(47:19):
to know like are you going to be consistent with them?
And I think as long as you're consistent with them,
like these kids are great, Like they're smart, they're tough,
they learn. If you're just consistent, I think they know
exactly where they stand.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
I always tell my daughter who's gotten into basketball, like,
efforts are non negotiable. Yeah, Like that should be a
non negotiable with sports, like I shouldn't have to ask
you to play harder, Like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
That should just come with it.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
I'm glad that you're teaching that because I'm on that
all the time with my kids and even when I
come to my son's flag football team, I'm like, dude,
if you ain't running, you ain't playing, and next you know,
all of them are running.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
When it's like like, hey, but if you're not going
to run, like we'll take you out. Well, I don't
care if you're the best player in the team, I
don't care. If you're not running, We're gonna with somebody else.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Heather got mad at me because I benched my son.
Dude a little slow off the sideline. Bro, while you
walk in, just go back over there, just sit over there.
I'll go get somebody else. Okay, Bob, you know what
I'm saying. That's just what it's going to be. But
if i'm I'm not going to.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Back off my line.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
So then effort is. Effort is automatically. It's a non
negotiable on any team I've had. But Luke is really
really good on that. The thing I want to know
about Luke is his coaching style is are you when
you're calling the plays? What's your favorite defensive play call?

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Like you?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Are you more aggressive? You come from a more of
a zone scheme.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
But we play a lot of zone. Okay, but in
youth football, the more guys you got going out the
line of scrimmage, you're better. You have to you have
to make you have to make them block you. Yeah,
I agree, right, make them block you, Okay, I mean
I don't want I don't want some of these other
teams from Charlotte watching this and figuring out how we're
gonna call stuff. But what I will say is make
them block you.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I like that. I know what you're going with. We
talk after this where you're going with love line.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
So when I I know when and when I got
to ask to do this show, I didn't want to
do it alone. Yeah, I figured I had one guy
in mine. This is this old gray haired fella right here,
Salton purple guy. And one of the best decisions I
could have made for us to do NFL Player Second Acts,
and it's been dope. So I guess my question to
you is, how did you get into the youth football?

(49:22):
And was it? Was it something that Greg called you
or you called Greg? Like, how did that even come about?

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Good question?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
So, Tate, what was what year? So Tate will be
I think Tate was was going in the fifth grade,
Greg's son, Yeah, and he wanted to coach. Tate wanted
to play, and I think if Tate was gonna play,
Greg wanted the coach and Greg's dad was a super
successful head coach in New Jersey. Want a bunch of
state championships, and he lives in Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Now he's intense as well.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, he's great. He's consistent, Like he's smart, like great coach,
done it a long time, great with quarterbacks and so
like Greg and his dad were coaching, and I was like, Greg,
I'll coach, Like, Okay, I needed foot everybody needs everybody
needs football, and and I get to hang out with
my bud.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
You know, it's like it's like the perfect like combination.
Now we got Stu, but Greg, it was really Greg
that got it all going. So it's been it's been
a ton of fun.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Where do you see yourself at in ten years and
would you like to coach at a higher level than
where you are at right now?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
You see yourself?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
I think I think coaching like NFL would be freaking awesome,
Like I would love that.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
It's really hard for like greats to come and coach,
like you know that struggle dynamic that people have always
had with that.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, but I think the teaching side of it like
is what I miss.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Like like high level.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Stuff like boom, he comes up and runs a choice
like this is where he's gonna push off. This is
where you can pull him because they can't see it,
Like this is a hand he's gonna come and push with.
So if he's gonna run, come and run a choice,
like put your eyes on this hand because this is
that push hand once you Like, I would love to
do that.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
For those that don't know the choice rut. It is
like an option. I can go both ways.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah and yeah, And but I just the time that
those guys, Like I give those guys so much credit,
the amount of time they you.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Know, I couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
They spend so much don't want to do it, and
I largely think it's like everyone's like why are they
there so long? Because like stuff has to get done.
It's like and it's every week is the same thing
because they can't get ready the week before because they
got to get ready for that game. Like the amount
of like drawing cards, labeling stuff, commitment committments, setting up
like practice scripts so that way practice runs smoothie. Like

(51:32):
I think we all took that for granted. But I
would love to just come in and like I just
want to coach football and like and leave, Like I
don't want to draw cards. I don't watch Tate. I
want to come in at practice and like coach and
then bounce. But like you know, you can't do that
because these guys have put all the time in and
they want it done a certain way, and if you

(51:54):
don't do it that way, you're putting your confusing everybody.
I'm confusing that the players because I'm telling them something
different than the coaches. I respect those coaches so much.
It's like it's just a hard dynamic. But I love
like I would love to like teach and show them
and just based on like experience doesn't mean my way
is the right way, but I like doing it this way.

(52:15):
Like what do you think? So I think the time
issue is.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Like the biggest So ball you'll be doing ball, just football,
He's going to be doing ball. But you just explained,
like something what people need to understand is everything that
Luke said. Every player at every position, there's a lot
of information that we have to process in a short
amount of time. Like the play that you just describe

(52:39):
is hand choice, route, the splits, the formation, all that,
Like that's a lot of information and process. Now dial
that down a little bit to seventh.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Eighth grade middle school football. How do you handle it
when you're trying to tell a player, because I think
I know how your mind works, yeah, like your full complex,
Like how much information do you give a kid or
do you even get mad at the kid when they
can't process it? Like how much do you have to
dial it back down for a youthful?

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I think you teach like pure fundamentals, So like he's
taken on a block like front foot forward, you strike,
like if I'm hitting the guy that's right here, this
foots forward, and then you show him like why so
like you'll be like hey, like if you set in
an edge, like I could be like, hey, punch him
in the chest, it controls outside wrist boom strip, get
over the top, gets stacked him and get vertical. Or

(53:31):
you can be like hey, inside foot forward, punch him
and maintain outside leverage and they're like okay, and you
show him why. So, like you get him and you
have him stand like like this like the wrong way,
and you just push him and they go back and
I'm like all right, I was like, now switch your
feet now when you push them, they're like strong, and

(53:53):
so I think when you teach him something and you
explain something to him, you have to be able to
show him like why. And so I think if you
can really show them why, then these kids, like I
don't have kids obviously, but like these kids at this age,
like they're smart, like they understand what you're saying. They
understand why you're trying to do it. They might not

(54:14):
be able to like motor skills, why is like as
precise as you want to, but they they know exactly
what you're talking about. Yeah, So I think showing them
in like fundamentals like this is why we tackle this
way head up, Like Greg's really good with the offensive
lineman with like we teach like three or four like
blocking schemes like steps like footwork, so boom. Once you

(54:36):
know all the footwork, you can do everything. So just
keep it simple, keep it fundamentally, explain to them like
why we're doing it, and show them why we're doing it,
and then I think they can tie it all together.
They're smart. They maybe have just never like seen it before,
so you have to be patient in that essence, but
like they're just the kids are.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Great, successful high school, successful Cryl's career, successful high school career,
very successful NFL career and potentially one day hopefully getting
into the Hall of Fame. Amazing journey and great story.
All the people that have helped you succeed to this
point in life right now, who would those people be

(55:13):
on your personal Mount Rushmore?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Get four?

Speaker 3 (55:16):
You get four.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I think I know one that's going to be on there.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I think my parents are two.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I knew mom was gonna make it.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
My mom and dad.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I just think that they've always been there. I think
they've always been there. I think my family.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
So we'll put you can do that as one?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
What is do one? Because then that'd be like I
have two, I have two brothers and my mom and dad.
So like I think your support system get you, get
you there, right, So like we'll put them as one.
Like they were super supportive. They cared about you as
like they cared about me and my brothers as individuals,
not as like a football player. Like they came to games,
they supported me, They answered the phone call when you

(55:53):
need something, If you need something, boom, they're there. Everything
you need from your parents boom. I had, Like I
never needed anything as a little kid. Everything that I
needed I had and get everything you don't get everything
you want, but they teach you like hard work, discipline,
how to treat people, you know, all the little stuff
that when you're younger like and then the older you get,
you're like pretty good. So I think I think they

(56:16):
are obviously number one. I think I think my high
school coach was a guy that, like his name Steve Speckt.
I think he really taught you like football and like
effort and toughness and what it's like to be part
of like a team, Like because you come in as
a freshman, he's he's he watches you because I played

(56:36):
freshman football JV. And then my junior year you play varsity,
Like you don't really move like That's how my high
school works. So he was always around you. You were
expected to be there. You're expected to like hold up
the U if you put that I went to Saint
zavif you put the X on your helmet, like you
better be held to a certain standard both at school,
like in the classroom in the building, as well as

(56:59):
like in sports and off the off the field out
of the classroom at home. Like, so I think you
kind of learned that. I think, like I'm gonna just
kind of go maybe some coaches. Uh. I think Bill
McGovern was my linebacker coach in college, and I think
I learned like toughness from him, like you're a freshman,

(57:21):
you get your you're getting your teeth kicked in no doubt,
and it was like love like love, he loved us,
but also like he knew the right way to like
push us. Yeah this is hard, but like don't care.
Don't care.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I think I think I'm gonna talk about all the
guys that got me to the NFL. And then my
college buddies were awesome, like we're still super tight, but
they were so supportive. They were like my buddies in college,
like they're just the they're the best. And then I
think the one guy that helped me a lot, there's
two guys that I think helped me a lot. Thomas
Ye and then Thomas was fantastic and then Greg Greg

(57:56):
was fantastic too. Just off season and the off season,
Greg and I trained together, and Greg's been like a
brother to me and in a lot of ways, like
been to his house for like Christmas, Thanksgiving. I've been
on trips with him, like him and him and Kara
are fantastic, like they're just the best. And I think

(58:16):
one thing that Greg showed me was how to train
in the off season. And I was a young guy.
I think I was going into year three when I
started training here a full time in the off season,
and it was like come on, like come on, like
I got you and I did everything Greg didn I
think that was a huge reason for success. Was like
preparation in the off season. So I think my family.

(58:39):
Steve Speck was like my first coach that I was like, like,
this is how we're gonna play football. And then Bill
McGovern in college was like super supportive, supported me leaving
early out of school. Thomas I talked about Thomas forever
and then and then Greg and like Kara and their
family and him helping me in the offseason. I think

(59:02):
that's like there's I mean, coach Rivera McDermott in this
system allowed me to succeed. I think Al Hulkam our
linebacker coach, giving me the freedom to, like Thomas and
I like go play our game. Like like maybe we
didn't do everything like according to how the playbook was designed,
but I was like I trust you guys, Like if

(59:23):
it works great, if it's not like that's on you guys,
and so I just think your support system. I could
keep going, but like I think that that combination of guys.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
That are missing fifteen people. No, no, when you're.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Supposed to have four.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
You know, you put your divide. If it's sixteen, you
divide it by four. It's four. Good.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Yeah, we're good. I like it though, and so it's good. Hard.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
It's a hard thing to do.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
You're missing out, especially when Luke, you are genuine as
you are. You've allowed so many great people in your life,
and you've added so much value to so many others.
I would tell anybody I lived at the View with
Luke would like help me and my wife, like bring
up groceries.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
He'd like go out of his way. He's the nicest person.
Yeah for me. And then he hits a switch on
the field.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
And then it turns into a complete cycle path.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Call me down there, Calk, I got you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
We're gonna take a short break and we'll be back
in a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
You talked about your support system, and we usually end it.
But it's okay, Thomas, We'll keep going. I want to
know this from Luke because I've never got to know
this I am. So I want to know because I
want us to get a little bit of love from
you because I've never asked you this. What did me
and Peanut come into your locker room do for you guys?
Because I remember when McDermott recruited me and I was

(01:00:34):
the free agency and he was like, look, we got leaders,
like we don't even need that much as far as
that like, So I didn't think I had to do
anything in the DV room.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
I found out I did. But he's like, I just
want you to come give this, give.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Us an attitude. That's all I need from you. He
showed me the hit when I hit Steve Smith. He's like, dude,
if you do, I want that, That's what I want.
So I want you to tell us because we weren't
here before, like what did we bring to you guys'
locker room?

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
So I think I think, rumps, you got to hear
what in fourteen? Yeah, let's see here. I think we
didn't have we didn't have a ton of consistency at
that position. So I got here in twelve. We just
we never had a safety back there that was like
that was like going to be around for a while,
Like we always signed dudes one year deals with the

(01:01:20):
anticipation that they would be gone. So we signed you
like household name. Everybody knew him, you knew the division.
We felt good about that. But presence, like presence, I
think is what you brought both in that room as
like an older veteran guy. You had a lot of
confidence in yourself and your ability, and so you didn't
have a problem like helping other guys. And I think

(01:01:43):
our team took off when we got a bunch of
older guys that kept the mood like light yeah, because
like I was very serious and I needed like some
comic relief and fun. And I just felt like that
room for us was young. It was, and you guys
were very good. You were a very good like older presence,

(01:02:06):
and you brought guys along. So like Rome, whatever Roman did,
everybody did, wait room Fridays, road times. That's the one
thing that I remember about you, Rome is like attitude, Yes, intensity,
great dude, hard worker, lined up where you needed to be.
Consistency like with Rome and YouTube pant, like you knew
exactly what you're getting good days, bad days, Consistency and

(01:02:28):
everything was like consistently high. You weren't like a consistently here,
always consistently high. So I think when people are consistent,
you know exactly what to expect. It makes your life easier.
Call me down a lot on the field as far
as like Rome and just like I'm like, all right,
got you got you, chill out, You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Just the Rex. We're good. We're good, just real.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
That's how Roman. That's how Rome would be in a game,
like we're good, I said, but but but road time
on Fridays is the best best time around.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Shirts, cut offs, shirt, no sleeves, allow sleeves, j no
would go no shirt, would.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Just can't wear sleeve. So I don't shoot. He was
he was a Biden by the rules. But it was
like one of those things like you brought something you
you fit into what we were doing, but you also
brought something that like guys could attach to and it's
like a big deal. It was like we probably fifteen
guys in there. We have the Juice Bros with with
Lou Young with Young and Dean Marlowe, and like you

(01:03:35):
made it so like Dean and Lou were two guys
that were like practice squad guys and like they'd be
up and down, up and down. But I feel like
Roman you got you gave them like a voice in
that room to like be themselves. And like I think
that their energy and fun and like not like comic relief,
but like their presence was so fresh because we would

(01:03:56):
be like during like we were tight, Like we'd get
tight sometimes, but those guys would always just be like
joking around and having fun because they knew, like I'm
not playing on Sunday, so like I'm just gonna like
bus chops have fun. But we didn't have that prior
to that. And I think you brought like the ability
and a space for guys to do that. And then Peanut,
there's another guy in this room right now, he's sitting

(01:04:18):
in the back. He's on his phone. I think you
helped him a lot. Josh Norman. I think you helped
Josh a lot. I think you brought an attitude on
the field of like of toughness and the ball like
the ball rules, like the ball rules all. And I
think when you came in that year was like the

(01:04:38):
perfect situation of like Rome was in year two, brought curtain,
but it was like the guys we brought in the
previous years was like it was like Roman you and
then we added Jared Allen. Yeah, and like our team,
Like I wasn't ready to like be like Thomas, like

(01:05:00):
wasn't ready for that. Like I didn't want to do that,
Like I wanted to play football and I wanted to
like lead on the field and like play hard and
practice hard and like do everything the right way. Like
you guys came in and you guys took a lot
of that like away from some of us younger guys
like KK and Starr and I were like young, and
you guys like took that off our plate. And I

(01:05:21):
think you guys helped, like mcdee a lot, because you
guys are older guys. You guys had a ton of
success and when we'd get tight, like you guys could
like bring it all back and like make it fun
and like it's not that serious and like but on
our bus, Peanut when Peanuts, so that the year Peanut

(01:05:41):
was gone, the bus got boring because Peanuts sat on
our bus and we all had the same seats, and
Peanut like we'd be like sometimes I'd be in the
bus like don't want to talk to anybody, and you'd
be like playing air hockey on your phone, were hockey
on the phone. I'm like, god, this guy final play
and you play and you're like, I feel better about myself.

(01:06:04):
So I think it's just like so like, I think
that's one thing that like good players bring is like, yeah,
you bring something on the field, But I think great
players are guys that bring stuff on the field, but
then they affect like the team off the field. And
I don't think it's a I don't think that it's
a coincidence that, like our locker room was that fun.
Think about the young guys in your guys room, Like

(01:06:25):
you guys had a young tray butdding really good player
Ben They budding, really good young player. And then we
had our boy twenty four. You know, you just didn't know,
you just you just you never knew what you get.
Got to put a lasso on it. Yes, Josh should

(01:06:45):
be playing games and Josh should be playing doing Josh.
You gotta let you gotta let Josh do Josh, no doubt.
And then it was like who's taking turns making sure
that Josh is okay. I'd like, roll, Hey, you're up, bro, we.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Got him s all right?

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
It's good and would say he just let him alone alone.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
I love you from who you are to me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
To me, that's what you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Guys brought like a just like a presence and like attitude,
Like I know you brought attitude, and you definitely brought
attitude that like I like, I love that, Like I
need guys that have like that. I love smart football players.
Like my head pops off.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
It's like, yeah, I know it does.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Yeah, my head pops off. I love guys that are
smart and guys that are like mean mean, but like, dudes,
we can just do this. And you guys were exactly that.
It's exactly what we needed. And I think as we
started to like really like ramp up and have that
little window of success that we had, I think you
guys are a big part of it because you guys
helped set the standard for on the defense side of

(01:07:42):
the ball, for like what was acceptable, because hey, this
is how Peanut did it, Boom, this is what we
did with Rome, like and it's just it's easy. It's easy.
And the other thing too, that I think you guys
did that was really good was like if somebody's trying
to make a coaching point and their coaching they're coaching it,
and they coach an older guy in the older guy

(01:08:03):
like you guys have brains and you know, like man,
I don't really want to do it that way, but
like I'll do it because it helps the team. Yeah,
and once once young guys see that boom, like hey,
Wilkes is getting on Peanut for his bail technique, he
needs to switch it up, or how Roman is playing
a curl flat, or how Roman's coming off the edge.

(01:08:23):
If they if young guys see an older guy getting
coached and the older guy just being like wearing it
and be like right and then doing it, then the
young guy don't have a choice. Or or like you run,
you run off the field, or you give good effort,
or you you talk and communicate playing safe safety, or
like you playing through I know you dinged your knee

(01:08:44):
and you kept playing like toughness, like you know what
I'm talking about, and you had that you had the
elbow with that. When young guys see old guys do
it in successful order guys, then it's like not a choice,
Like if you want to play, then be like him,
and him is Rome Harper, Peanut Tillman like Chuck, like
you want to play football and play defense in the

(01:09:05):
Carolina Panthers, Like that's what we expect. And it's easier
to point to a guy than it is to like
draw this guy on a board and be like, we
want all of this stuff. If guys can't see it,
then they don't know how to do it, versus like
with you guys, it's like we have a corner that'll
do it, we have it safety that'll do it. We've
got a big guy up front in Dwan and Chuck
that would do it, and then we have Thomas. It's

(01:09:25):
like when young guys showed it showed up. Once you
two got there, then it was like complete from all
three levels like front backers, outside, corners, safeties. Once you
guys got there, it was like complete. And then it
was like, buddy, you want to play, you gotta be
like this.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
So oh man, I appreciate that. I wanted to hear that.
That was great. You want to have flowers, dog. I
never asked you that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
That's why I just want to know from.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Outside it was fun. You guys are just fun man.
Like we did it was fun. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
We've had a good time and I got I got
Luke to hate Roddy White too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Oh. Man, I I saw Roddy, you know what I did.
I saw Riddy a couple of years ago, and I
was like, man, I was like, Roddy, Man, I respect
your game, bro, I respect it. He looked at me
and smiled because he knows, like, dude, there'd be sometimes, man,
we can keep going. But Roddy and I so Josh
no U or Trey picked the ball off in twenty fourteen, yep,

(01:10:21):
I mean in in Atlanta and Atlanta and Roddy was
running like a seam ball and like the ball got
thrown like the other side of the field, and I
saw and I and like Roddy and I have been
getting into it all game. Trey picks his ball. He's
running down the field and like Roddy and I are
still like fighting. We're like on the ground, like freaking,
like smashing me, like I'm on top of him. Then

(01:10:42):
like he's on top of me and like pushing and
shoving and like punching, and Trey's like running down the
field to score a touchdown, and Roddy and I are
like so like we're in our own world, like nothing's happening,
but like what's right here. Yeah, so but then you
see it. Then you see him, like a couple years later,
you're like, hey, I respect your game. You're a great

(01:11:03):
football player. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
We went in the Alabama Sports Hall of Fame together
and I had to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Like you talked to him. I did.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yeah, his mom did not like me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Though. That's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
That's cool, that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
But you know what, but you know what, you know
what like with guys like that, like I want Roddy
to be on my football team. I would go the guy.
He's like one of those guys you were going to fight, Like,
I'll take Roddy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
And all his teammates love him too.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
I would have loved him like it was almost like
it was almost like damn, man, Like you don't want
to say to him on our team, but you can't
like hi, because can't. But he like he played football
the right way man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Like he was tough.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
He's just tough like real, he's just a good football player, man,
Like I can't hate on that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
I hated him when I played, but I respect his game.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I don't hate him anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
I don't hate him anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
I said when I played him, Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Like him, but I like him now he's tough. Man.
I like him. Good game.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Appreciate you man, of course I appreciate you coming on
the show, blessing all some stories and things for my flowers.
This was this was on man. We should have had
you on like years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
It's all good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Man, he's getting closer to the Hall of Fame call.
So he's getting closer to the Hall of Fame. Just
so and leg you know when you get that call,
because I'm putting it out in the universe.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Man, I'm gonna be there front row.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Well it helps when Patrick Willis goes and Patrick Willis
does not, doesn't have the accolades that you have.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
So yeah, same type of year. It's all right. We'll
now you're talk about. You don't need to say another word.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Peanut he Thank you to all of our followers. Please subscribe,
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