January 22, 2025 • 48 mins
On the latest NFL Players: Second Acts podcast, former cornerback Robert McClain joins Roman and Peanut. Robert talks about playing for a two-win Carolina Panthers squad his rookie year, the challenges of bouncing around the league with various teams, to being a starter for the Panthers in Super Bowl 50. Robert also explains how Dragon Ball Z inspired him to chart a path as an artist and painter. He also explains the inspiration of one of his most acclaimed art pieces; a watercolor portrait of rapper Nipsey Hustle.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Mark McClean, I'm the NFL's best artist, and you're
here with NFL player Second Acts Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thank you for tuning in to the NFL Player's Second
Act Podcast. I'm Peanut Tillman and this is my guy
Roomanbi Harp.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm saying it again. That's your name. He can't even
keep laughing. Give me a tear, Give me a tear drop.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
It will happen if I keep laughing. You already know that,
and our guest doesn't know why you called me. Well,
we'll probably end up getting into that at some point.
But thank you, Peena, and I want to let everybody
know where we're at today. This is a different studio
right here in Atlanta, Georgia, at the our Heart studio
right here, and it's a great place right across from
(00:48):
Top Golf.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
At the Works.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's a really really great building and I want to
thank them for allowing us to use their venue. And uh,
look at the background, bro, it's dope. I like, yeah,
it's our best set up so far, no doubt. And uh,
well iHeart New York. We didn't say that, but uh,
we can't wait.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's all good. Who's introduce our guest today, Peanut. I
like this guest. I like him too. He was a teammate.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
He was, he was, he was a great teammate. That
he's a twenty fifteen season was amazing. It was, and
I'm pretty sure a lot of what we talk about
will be geared toward that twenty fifteen season. He's a
twenty ten draft pick out of Yukon. Played in the
league for eight years. He was a part of that
famous twenty fifteen season, played in Super Bowl fifty.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
He is now an artist. He's a painter. Yeah, my guy, painter.
Robert McClain, Welcome to the pop Thank you, thank you,
thanks for inviting man, thanks for inviting.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I appreciate you. I miss y'all. First of all, Robert,
you know how much we love you. Dog. The first
thing I noticed about you outside of you wearing all white,
is that what the part is? That was? Like you
pain what's your more name? From fanatics? I feel like
you was. You just came from one of his parties
for like.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
July usually painted my clothes. I was in my closet
making sure my girlfriend get on me about paint spots
on everything. And I'll go anywhere with paint spots closed.
So I've had to come professional.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
To that, and I appreciate that that little speck look great.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I started to see.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
This light life kicking in, life, kicking in man, stressed
on these paintings, like I to finish up.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Man.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
So I remember pretty vividly when you came into the
room in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You're a quiet guy.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
You kind of just wanted to just I think you
kind of just wanted to figure out your place inside
the room.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
We have some veteran guys. We were a very successful
team when you came in already.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And what week was that. It was a December. I
think it was first or second we get December.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, yeah, I know it's literal in Courtland Courtland signed first,
then I signed right at to Courtland.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Me and Courtland worked out the same workout too.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, that was my first impression, like this dude's quiet,
he can run, and dude just seems like, I don't know,
we got to figure it out and fill it out
at first.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, it was it was an ad justin pyramid a
period of mine. You know, I was going off multiple teams,
been in multiple teams already, and you'd already been with Carolina. Yeah,
I've been with Carolina before that. My first time I
got drafted to came from the Falcons. I NFC South
my entire career. So it was just it was a
difficult season because you know, you have to work out
for different teams. You're trying to get onto a team,
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got adjusted a playbook. So me always been naturally quiet
my entire life. But I like to learn, you know,
I known we had a good locker room, knowing we
had a good coach. I did miss the Carolina locker
room for my rookie year.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
What was the difference between your rookie year Carolina team
and probably what you walked into.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I think the camaraderie. When I think about the camaraderie
of the team, like that's what allows teams to win,
because if you're not together, if not all eleven players
playing for each other, you're not gonna win games. Say
that again, all of them players, all of them players
have to be willing to do their job for the
person next to them. So like in twenty twelve and
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the Falcons managed the NC Championship against the forty nine ers,
and uh, again I think about that team and what
made it successful. It was a camaraderie of our team,
the togetherness, how he worked hard together, how he worked
in the weight room, off the off the field stuff,
going to watch basketball games together, just like small stuff
like that. You know, fellowship. Fellowship was a big thing, Carolina.
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When I got there with you guys, you know, hearing
you speak to the players and the DBS coach Wilkes,
all of you guys. Man, you could tell that the
group was like connected. You know that was important for me.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
You know I was I wasn't the oldest person in
the room, but I clearly was the mature one. Because
you looked the oldest just could not control. You looked
at the old help himself. You looked at the old.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I just hate that. Y'all.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Was always so serious all the time. Like I just
wanted to give me a little joke. You were locked in,
and we were so.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Locked in, But give me a laugh here and there, man, Like.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I just remember, I probably think one of the best
things about that season was the night before a game,
Wooks would always give like some dope ass speech.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Was real serious. Training train dialed all the way in.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And we're talking about Steve Wooks he was our dB
coaster that year, and he would go on and give
this great speech and then at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And it was just the DB's.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It was just us in the little room in the
dB room at the hotel. And then I would I
would always find that one that one weird thing to say,
real quiet, quiet, and then I would I would say it,
and then I think the first time I called everybody
off guard and they were like, wait, what what Only
you would say that.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Then each week Peanut break the ice.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It would kind of just be it would just kind
of be a thing, and then it just turned it
into like, all right, what you got, Peen.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I was like, well, this is what I was thinking,
because my mind would go elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Eighty HD would kick in and I would just say
something off the wall and then it would bring.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Everybody back down to like, oh yeahah, we cool. We
still got back to a confundness. Yeah. That was the best.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So, Robert, what was your first welcome to the NFL moment?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Man? My rookie year, we won two games my rookie year,
so that was a big welcoming to the league, just
seeing how the businesses ran, how the teams have to
adjust during the season.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, NFC South was just a tough division. You know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I felt like my welcome to the league moment was
probably when I first got I first started getting a
lot of snaps on defense. You know, we were we
had some injuries. I think Richard Marshall got hurt, Captain
got hurt, and I had to play a little more
role on defense besides special teams. And I had some
decent games in there as a dime. Maybe a couple
players at Nickel and I remember, like it was yesterday,
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were playing in Pittsburgh and Ben Roethlisberg was just at me. Man,
I'm talking about Mike Wallace. I felt like Mike Wallace's
fastest human being on Earth. Man. And the balls, I mean,
Ben Roethlisberg, He's throwing rain drops. Man, he throwing the
ball so high up and Mike Wallas you know the
balls Damn they're black like it is in New Orleans,
yea in the night. And you know, so that was
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a tough game for me. Man, it was you know,
Chuck got on me that game. But it was like
a real like moment of myself saying, all right, I
got to keep improving, you know, Uh, even though I
do work hard. I work hard in off season. I'm
never like taking days off to tell us if I
need to I'm content. I'm never content really. So it
was that moment kind of with the season we had
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the adjustment and roster. We had a whole new coach
next year with coach Rivera. So it was that moment
kind of made me kick another gear up, you know,
to kind of push my career where I wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah. So all the teams that you played for, can
you rattle them off in order? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Carolina my rookie year. Then we had the lockout year
in twenty eleven, and then I was with Treaded. Yeah,
Dreaded Lockout, which we kind of all knew they were
going to uplift the lockout during training camp. You know,
it was like two a week before training camp started.
They have lifted a lockout. Got released that season, picked
up by Jacksonville. When that season ended, Atlanta signed me
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into the I'm twelve. Stuck with them from twelve to fifteen.
Signed with the Patriots in the off season, got released
by them, signed back with Carolina fifteen season, got released
by by Carolina in sixteen during the season ups and down,
up and down year in sixteen for the Panthers, but
uh got released by them and then signed back to
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Tampa that next season. So NC South always wanted me. Man, Yeah,
So what what is that? Mentally?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
What does that do for you? Like, you know you're
a good player, right, you got drafted. You know how
hard you work, you know you know your value, you
know your work. What does that mentally?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Mentally? What does that do for you? Uh?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
It confuses you a little bit. You know, we've all
played football for a long time. You know, we've all
been for the most part of the best players on
our team, top five at least, so we've I've been
playing football off.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Since third grade, all way up until now.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
This moment of not being cut or being told not
good enough exactly, you know, so it was I grew
up in a military family, So failures are are like
positives for me. Are people telling me I'm not able
to do it or not good enough. It's a positive
thing to me because I self reflect a lot. Like
even with my art, I'm a harder critic on my
art than I am on then other people are on
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my artwork, you know, So I just self critique myself.
You know, it confused me a lot because just the
first time somebody told me I'm not good enough. But
I'm not wanting to shy off from work. I'm not
want to shy off from adversity and different things that
are going to change my path from the path that
I thought it was going to go this direction, you know. So,
but it worked out.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's your ups and downs, more downs and ups. But
as long as you appreciate those downs, you know ups
are going to come, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, So where were you at during that twenty eleven
season since you weren't on an active roster.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I was.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I think I had my least from my apartment in
Balentine up until November.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
For those that don't know, that's something the suburbs of Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, the little outskirts suburbs of Charlotte, Balentine, and I
kind of wanted to stay away from the city just
to cut out. Like you guys know, I'm quiet to
myself a lot. I didn't mind that little twenty five
thirty minute drive home. You know, it was a two
thousand level was tough. I worked out for about thirteen teens,
damn thirteen teams. I'm talking about I was in peak
shape one season.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
In one season, so you're getting calls like every week,
every week flying out.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm flying out. I'm running forties and I'm talking I'm
in peak shape. Man, it's I'm in peak shape. I
ran I'm running four three eights for four four ones
in my forties. I'm still running forty. I'm like, man,
they got my stuff like a year and a half ago.
I was after the com I was like again, like
passing on the strings.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It was.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I put myself in like a hole almost when I
was in that twenty eleven season because I you know,
they're like, oh, let's bring you in, work you out,
which I didn't know if they work there oder in
the season. They just want to see if you're going
to be available later on and healthy enough. And it sucked, man,
because I was working out. I didn't want to be
seen during the day. You know, everything was new to
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me this first year. I'm not playing football. Yeah, so
you were kind of like, I don't want anybody to
see me a little lad. Yeah, I was ice. I
was very isolated in that twenty eleven season. First, that's
when I first got my dog mellow. I needed something
around me. So I was training around midnight. I was trained.
I was trained awkward hours so I could sleep during
the day and it's trained two days at night. So
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I was training at like nine pm, E a little bit,
training back at like five am. Sleep during the day,
just guy. I really didn't want to be seen. If
I had a workout, I would switch my schedule around
so I could be more active during the day to
get the workout and be productive. But I was I
put myself in like a military afghanistand a little hole
almost to kind of tell myself, all right, this is
what I needed to do to get back on the team.
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And I knew it was going to come. I knew
my opportunity is going to come, get picked up on team.
Got picked up by Jacksonville, but that didn't work out long,
which was okay.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
But Falcon has changed my whole career round being around
those vets. Yeah, what vestsing in particular.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Brent Grimes, Thomas Dekoude, William Moore, Dante Robinson, we had
Santy Samuel signed there in two twelve ATRUP.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's it, man.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But the thing is I learned so much stuff from
those guys man, and they what changed my career around
was how they approached the game very similar how Peanut
did when it came to having fun. Like when I
got to Carolina, I was reminded have fun. Two then
twelve we had fun. We had our whole team together.
They broke it apart in two and thirteen a little bit,
as teams do with winning seasons, and I lost the fun.
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Got back to Carolina, I was reminded again how fun
football was, you know, so like that sparked my confidence.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Man, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Though, Like like you you forget how to have fun
because I've been in Chicago. You just grind it our
career and when Lovey Smith was there, nothing but fun.
Like we have fun the defense we have fun the
majority of the time because we were always making plays.
Twenty thirteen and fourteen, football wasn't not fun. I hated football.
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It just I didn't want to be a part of
the team. But I was a part of the team
to when DT Thomas Davis TV, excuse me. He used
to always try to get me to come.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
To Carolina because we did the Man of the Year stuff.
And then I finally get there and I was.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I was scared because it was the first time I
was on a new team. So I was like, all right.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
And what those that don't know when you're the new
person on the team, you have to go get to
know them guys.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, it's not like somebody's new coming into your locker room.
So they got to kind of you know, the work lay.
And I was a vent though too, so that's what
made it weird. It's like super good.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I'm like years, that's my thirteenth season. I'm the new guy.
I kind of feel like a rookie, but I'm not
a rookie. But I kind of have to take the
rig your approach because this is their locker room, not
the guy.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
It's it's it's Rome, is is TD is Luke, It's
this is a team.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's great like so, and then obviously Rome j no,
you us like we had our own thing, and I
was like, Yo, this is what it is like, this
is what it's about, this is what ball is about.
This is this is that team spirit, this is that
team coaraderie exact. I love loved everything about it.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I want to know this so that twenty eleven year
you're out of football at this point, is this when
you started drawing or getting into the art side, when
you were trying to stay in the dark, or.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That year I'm mainly focused on football. Okay, I've always been.
I'll doodle here and there, but that entire football season
was all just all tin.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So you weren't thinking about the next career at this point.
Now you're just ball at this point. Yeah, in my head,
I'm like, I'm not I'm not done. I've already had
dreams and and and and positive thoughts in my in
my into wish is that I was going to have
a successful, long career that I wanted to have. You know,
even though I didn't play the years I wanted to play,
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as pretty sure a lot of us have.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It was I know I wasn't done, and I wasn't
gonna let somebody else tell me I'm done playing football.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, well you're talking about that.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, how gratifying was it to be a starter in
Super Bowl fifty with the Carolina team that you came
in late to Yeah yeah, it was been here once before,
it had two wins. Yeahah yeah, And all of a sudden,
now you come back on the other end of me, like, man, well,
I'm on a legit team.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And we go to the got goosebumps thinking about that, man,
because it's like a full circle almost, you know, I
think back to the MC Championship on twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's like it's targetting that game. It's hard getting to
just the NFC Championship. It's hard just getting to the
Super Bowl every year. Like it was like blessing. It
was like I knew that my my faith in God,
my my.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
My prayers were being answered. I just had to stick
to the course. You know. It was, like I said,
it was a full arcle. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It just felt amazing. I still remember a couple of
plays that happened in the Super Bowl and Rome coming
over to me talking to me, tap my helmet. There
was so many things that happened during that season man,
that I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Blessed and thankful for it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Because if I didn't have certain vets in my career,
my career probably wouldn't have steered the way it went.
I had a lot of guys that I was able
to listen to, able to guide me, able to teach
me certain things about the game. When I fell, another
guy lifted me up. Another vet lifts me up or
another person says something to helped me push on to
the next step.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So I'm envious to both of y'all because y'all got
to play in the game, didn't I'm jealous.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I know Pino was hurting man, and I was like, Man,
I know, Man, I can't imagine.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I was like, I was thinking about that too, because
that was my You were the reason why I had
the more opportunity to play in on defense. You know,
when you tore the ACL and I remember how even
how you took the injury. You know, you were very
calm about it. You never were high or low about
certain things. You know what I'm saying. You were very
even killed. You know, and just even how you approached
your injury gave me confidence going there and doing my
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job right because you gave me confidence telling me certain
things that you know your job, go out there and
make your plays, roam all you guys. All you guys
gave me one hundred percent confidence knowing that this new
guy's gonna go in there and do his job correctly
and play for us. So y'all, I mean, I thank y'all, man.
All the time. I told my friends all the time
people that play soccer with. You know, I'm like the
beats time around like that. That that type of leadership
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will helped me for the rest of my life and
my kids.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So, No, I was appreciative of you because you came in.
You never made it about you.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
You were more so much more concerned with about how
everybody else viewed you in that room, because at the
end of the day, you just didn't want to let
us down.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Said and Wilkes, remember, Will like, man, you're gonna go
out there and tap or something. And he was like,
was like, man, coach on, don't come to me like that. Man,
I'm gonna go out there and do my job for
this team. Now, I'm not gonna go you know, Wilkes
teas us here and there, especially when I was new.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Are you going to McClain, you're gonna be able to
like Rob, You're gonna.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Be able to make this or this and that that
coach strust When I get out there on that field,
I'm gonna do my job, man, all.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Right, shout out to We got to give our research
and producer Thomas a little credit.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So let me just read out some stats and you
can tell me. Okay.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Super Bowl fifty, Robert played in fifty eight of the
sixty defensive snaps in that game. Only Luke, Keithley and
Thomas Davis played more snaps than you, including more than me,
which is a whole other deal. But shout out to
Thomas and his race.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Don't even get wrong, I didn't not play that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, Late Night talks about about Super Bowl fifty and yeah, man,
we'll save that for How do you respond to that?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Thomas would love to know.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Uh, you probably played better than him too. I dropped
that pick early in the gaes. Bring that I thinking about.
That's all I think about because we were down by six.
We're down by six for so long, and I'm like,
I keep I kept fresh. My mom like, I should
have put two hands out there. I would have took
it back ninety yards. That's that changed the game.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
What people do not understand is when your defensive back
and you go with this hand or the long arm,
it's a different mindset and it's just a confidence thing
to just.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Bring the other one with you exactly. It's kind of
what you're talk though.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Just to put that one arm out like and secure
the secure that's kind of what you're.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Safety net and it's just a confidence thing to just
go there. And that's all it was.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And I was there so early, you were there so early.
So I read the three step by and I was
amazing at reading three steps through my entire football career.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I was just good at tuning on the quarterback, reading
those mechanisms that they had for running three steps, whether
they shotgun under the gun, I mean under the center.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I just knew how to read three step. You know.
Peyton went throwing, he wasn't his.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
He was he was all short games, short game.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
That was.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, we still lost that. Oh my god, I know this.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Is Super Bowl performance and intensively and like guy knows
how long you know, So it was.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
It was tough.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Man. I thought back to that one played entire game
in a in a coral route that Emanuel Sanders caught
on me that he got a first down on a
lot of little plays that I'm like, you know, we
how we analyze the film, there's plays that we know
we could have made defensively and offensively that we could
have won the game one or two plays, you know,
So all.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Right, man, let's let's let's get off the super Bowl
because I'm getting I'm getting mad. I'm kind of mad
right now because he put the damn super Bowl fifty
courses in there. Every time we do this show at
at super Bowl, I get reminded by this dummy over
here that I don't have it. I thought it, but
he reminds me, Oh my god, he reminds me, I
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got my ring.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know how many rings? You got? Zero?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Like, all right, I can't say nothing right the gray
haired banded just go ahead and talk about your peanut
punch stuff. I'm not even talking about that class is.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
That that's doing the stamped in the books history right there,
that peanut punch that Jones stamped in the books forever.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That John is real skill. Like there's nobody defensively. I
feel like that script the ball as as as pure
as you did. I appreciate that. And effectively, every single
every single like every game, you are attacking the ball
in a way that you could affect like runners, receivers,
running backs they knew they coming to you, come to
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your side like security.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Ball, and it's infectious. I would give Peanut that much
credit because Steve Wilks would tell.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Us like, hey, dude, you gotta run through the ball,
just no peanuts.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Somehow know is gonna get a ball and he's like,
and it spreads like next thing. You know, everybody starts
doing it just because we watch you do it. So
he's not wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.
So I know you're an artist.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
How how long have you been been painting, drawing, sketching.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Drawing, sketching, doing all things artistically since I think third
grade or fourth grade. So that's when I realized I
was I was naturally skilled in drawing. It was a
summer that you know, everybody was big in the anime
in some way or form.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Who was your first anime? Drawing? Dragon ball Z?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Still I still have all my my original Dragon ball
Z drawings from when I was in element school.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Your favorite Dragon ball Z? Care? Uh? Goku?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I like everybody likes Goku, but I kind of like
the villains a lot. I was like, I'm a vegeta
vegeta cool vegeta cool me, but I always just like villains.
I like, I like, I like the guys that are
like villain. He was was really and he ended up
coming with the good team. A villain guy I like
the like Goku Black. I don't know if you know. Yeah,
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so Goku Black.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I like him.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
This guy like the adversity they bring and the change
they have to bring into the animate to change the story.
You know, it's written well. A lot of animates are
written really well.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And one did all that.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
That's the crazy he just last year last Yeah, I
thought he just he just passed.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
He did. I want to. I want to. Can I
can I commission you to draw a peanut punch.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Man like you come up with whatever you I want
the artists to be an artist.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I can come up with something. I will pay you.
I want. I want to. I want Yeah, we can
come up bring this on the show. I can come something.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You brought some art today, right, Yeah? I brought some art.
I brought a I brought like a very inspiring peace
of mind. I like I like to paint like inspiring
people that have have inspired not just one person, but
just multiple people in different ways, whether it's music, whether
it's sports, whether it's how they speak to.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
People in communities and whatnot. Politics. You know. I like
to inspire people.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You know, I like to be able to touch people
in ways that you don't have to use words all
the time.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Now, this is a draw artist, I mean a painting
of nip yep right, yes, and so he's passed away now,
but a great artist when he was alive, a businessman. Really,
he's doing a lot of different things out there in
LA So maybe talked about what inspired you to do
him specifically.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Just how he how he was in his community. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Everybody has their own backgrounds on troubling backgrounds, you know
what I'm saying. So what you've done in the past
doesn't shape who you are now.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
God has given us the ability to be able to
change and do things in a positive way in life.
And I felt like what he's done for a lot
of people inspiring wise, Like if you listen to a
lot of his words and his music, Yeah, talks about
a lot of pain talks about a lot of times
he could have given up, talked about a lot of
times he could have steered different directions, but how he
stayed to his course. You know, Painting things like that
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just gives me when I look at my paintings. To
certain people like that. It just brings back a hunger
and myself to keep going, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Talk about the colors though, I want, I want to
ask you, like why the red the I can't I
can't see all the colors right now because it's I'm
facing the back of it. But while they're red in
the background, Like, how do you because obviously it's it's
a picture that you you you took from Yeah, why
those specific colors?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Like I just I wanted something different. I wanted to show, like.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
When you when you look at the like the infrared
heat like of a human. You know, you see they
could be sad and their body could be slightly cool,
or they could be happy and their body can be
showing their their warmness. So I kind of wanted to
show the different temperatures on his skin, the different temperatures
of his body, being the blue the red. I wanted
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the picture to be very dynamic. You know, it's a
it's a photo that many artists of painting, tons of
artists of paint, especially when he passed. You know, I'm
not one to paint a lot of people when they passed.
Right way, I feel like it's like a respecting I
don't like to monetize by uh by, by something trending.
So when when I painted it, I kind of I
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wanted it to be a dynamic piece. I wanted the
piece to make you make you look at it longer
than just being like, wait, this is the original photo
from this picture. But he's bringing in so many colors
and different features to still bring form and tones and
coolness or hotness is to the to the piece. So
I wanted to show the different ranges that Nipsey has
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towards like people. You know, he could be cool with
this person, there could be a little hotter with this person.
You know, not saying hot or cooler is bad or good,
but just his personality towards different people, businesses, music.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, Robert, you sound like a real true artist. You
talking about infrared the hotness. Yeah, just really deep. This
is this is what artists.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I studied a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
My wife is in the art, and so I've been
a lot of these art galley things, and you're talking
just like that. It's like a whole new language language, right,
It's just completely different.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
All right. What I want to know is what is
your favorite form of art to do?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I first started as a sketch artist, which actually helped
me in my process of painting. If you can't draw
something and make it look somewhat like what you're drawing,
then when you start adding color and layers and contrast
and shadows, it's not gonna look like the picture.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
You know, it's not gonna look like you wanted to look.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So me having that that, that strong background of drawing
and sketching was that I was able to easily transition
right over to color, which I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
And can we just talk about this because he was
in the locker room with us and he didn't talk
about this.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
No, he did this out.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Cam bout the painting from me when I bought that,
Like the team interviewed me randomly, and uh, they told
Medy to bring some paintings and that was did in
my house, like in my little kitchen or something or
my apartment, I mean, and I remember bringing them in
for the interview. It was like after practice. So I'm
in there late and then Cam walk's by.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I was like, hey, you paint.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, he bought one flag one hundred two hundred dollars,
like old paint in the mind, but it was like
aout like one hundred two hundred dollars. Man, I was like, cool,
you sold painting right during the interview. I'm cool with that.
But know, but none of you guys knew.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Nobody knew.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
And then all of a sudden were like, hold on
you Like, yeah, yeah, I saw. I saw on Instagram too.
You had a great picture of Benet. Yeah yeah there
as well. Uh he jumping up making a play on
the game.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yet they really finally played Denver that first game of
the season, and uh, I wanted I told. I told
a lot of the dbs that were a part of
my life through my defensive career. I'm gonna do a
piece for everybody. Everybody's getting a piece. The entire thieves
ass getting the piece. So it's coming soon. It's gonna
take me a while. Yeah, my friend Taylon Branch after
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do I did, my homie Derrius Butler.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
So, I'm just trying to pay pay my my respect,
my towards my the guys that I looked up to,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I bought some bought some Christmas ornaments on the website.
I got the Harley Quinns joint. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
I bought that one. I think I got the twenty
month time Peanuts, the best he always supports.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, he got that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I forget the third one Outbohol though, but yeah, I
like I didn't know they came because you know chrimas
well asking what we're let all the listeners know where
they can my art. Right now, I'm I'm using the
NFL right now with I think they have this thing
called manpower, So I'm using that right now to monetize
my business properly and figure out how to become an
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entrepreneur in a way. You know, being an artist and
me and the creator, it's hard for me to do
the creative and then do the business.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It kind of messes me up because I'm like, I'm
doing it because I love it.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
And I also know I need to make some money
from it. But I also just want my pieces to
be in homes. I want people that appreciate it just
to have it when if somebody buys it for a
dollar or two thousand, you know, I'm like, I just
wanted to be away from me and I don't want
to stay at my own paintings. I want people to
have pieces of my art that I see is that
I love. You know, it's just tough man. It's just
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tough man, just the just the just kind of balancing it,
you know. So right now, I primarily use social media,
use my Instagram. I'm in the process of developing a
website for the most part. The McClain's Art like domain
will be I'll have it. I did have a website
in the past, but right now my mcclaims are for
my Instagram. It's just my primary source of communicating people,
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getting my art work out there.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I'm submitting at McLain's Art mc c l a I
and s Art, and then I'm submitting pieces the more galleries.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I just started doing that more this year. So it
took me five years to develop my skill to painting
to where I felt comfortable enough to be like, all right,
it's good enough, even though I knew it was good
enough when I first started. I'm like, all right, it's
good enough. Now I can put my stuff off.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Do you have you ever like taken a skill or
excuse me, have you ever taken a class on how
to paint? Or is it just like all right, I
think I'm gonna try to.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Paint now uh in twenty nineteen. So eighteen was my
last season. I was when I was a free agent
working out for a couple of teams, think of working
for Saints in Detroit, but I refused to sign to
the Saint Room. Sorry man, being in NFC Southoma entire career,
you know how the rivalry is with the Saints.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Look, I told my agent, I'll never go to Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Never. I don't care, no, never. I couldn't do the Saints.
I get it.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
The Saint the Saints for the first team when I
was that gunner to really throw me on the sideline
too so and that was my rookie year. So that's
when I really took a person with the Saints. But
when it came to art in eighteen, I was a
free agent twenty nineteen. I was actually planning on joining
the Army in twenty nineteen. Crazy, I passed my as
VAP within I had like a week to take the
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as VAP. They were going to leave Tim to sent
me the boot camp two weeks later. And I grew
up in a military family, so I was also a
dream of mine. And I was in a trans junior Yeah,
I was in junior RTC, So military was always a
dream of mine. I wanted a being the Federal Giral
investigations by being in the military. So I had a
whole nother plan after college. But after football is kind
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of like being after college again having to.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Figure it out.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
So the reason I did enjoined the Army is due
to some of the stuff with the recruiter and medically,
I didn't feel like I would have been able to
do what I need to do for my soldiers around me.
Knowing that I would have tried to climb to the
elite status and knowing certain things that are bothering me. Still,
I didn't want to put others at risk, you knowing myself,
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you know. So I decided to stop that. But it
was a blessing in disgise because I took as painting
class at Chas Staint Art Center, which is not too
far from here in Bucket, and I took a class
there during football when I was with the Falcons to
learn how to draw portraits, to sketch portraits. I was like,
let me, let me go back and learn how to paint.
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Like everybody wants paintings from me. People want paintings in
their homes. It's a more popular piece to have in
your home rather than a sketch. Was like, let me
learn how to paint. So I volunteered at Chastity and
Art Center for nine months, did a children mural there.
But they gave me free classes to take. So I
took about seven to eight painting classes that that that
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whole entire year and learn how to paint, and I
got gotten faster. But the guy that really taught me
out of paint was a beginners of painting class, and
from that point on, I was just.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Like I think confidence plays a huge piece in your
whole your whole career from playing football to becoming an artist,
believing in yourself.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
How did you.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Think you how were you received in the locker room
as a player versus an artists?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Like once we figured it out, Yeah, were you kind
of nervous to tell us about it because you didn't
or you just weren't confident enough at that time.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
To say like, no, this is like what I do,
this is not it was.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
It was football. It was like when I'm it's like
we're on a mission. So it's like I'm so military
minded and a lot of things I do I'm like,
our teams on a mission right now. We're on a
mission right now, like we're in we're in war. We're
in the seventeen week war, and then we have the
playoff war, you know. So I'm like, our soldiers have
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to focus. We have to focus on this. So whatever
we're do on the side, it's what we do on
the side to make sure we're able to come into
the field together and be a unit. You know. So
when I'm locked in a football season's football season, off seasons,
off season, but then when I'm training back in the
lock in mode, so I knoww to just put blinders
on in a way. Which it wasn't like I was
hiding my art because I know people love my artwork.
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Like I said, I'm a harder critic on myself than others.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So it's never like a fear thing of my art.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
But it's always it was always like just people just
didn't know, you know, people just didn't know.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
So did you take advantage of the NFL program as
far as the arts and teaching you those things, because
you maybe talk about that experience as well.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, the the NFL PA actually has a what was
it called Smocks and Jocks Art Show.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Every year they have it there. I didn't know that,
so please share it.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, So the nfl PA has an art show every season,
I mean every every season at the end of the
year in the super Bowl city. So the first year
actually attended this art event. And it's for former players
that are artists in all types of forums or the sculpting, painting,
any form of art you do, You're able to go
there sell your art silent auction. And the first year
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I heard about this was when the Super Bowl was
here in Atlanta. I forgot what year that was, maybe nineteen.
So I submitted my artwork to that two paintings I'm
talking about. I didn't put in any work in these
paintings I'm talking about it. I just threw some ad
fract stuff together, sold them, brought my daughter, and I
was excited. I'm like, man, I never sold a little
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two under three dollars. I'm like, okay, I'm cool with that. Man,
Like I never sold a painting that people loved so much.
I'm like, I don't even know how to paint, you know.
So it was like just from that little experience from
the Smocks, the smocks and jocks. I stuck with that
art show, and that art show also helped me stay motivated,
stay climbing, stay getting better. The exposure from it, I
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sold more and more paintings each a star. So two
art shows. That first two paintings, that first art show
in Atlanta. The next year my Super bowls in Miami
sold seven, all abstract. So I'm like, my I got
to learn how to paint now. I really got to
learn how to paint. We got twenty twenty. I think
it was in the Miami.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
It's a really good to lose actually there. Last year he.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Came to the one in Vegas. Yeah, he came to
the one. I sold my Kobe paint. I had a
sixty by seventy to Kobe paint.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, so that was probably my biggest painting I did. Yeah,
and it's so it's so it's sold, so lose there.
He has a whole interview on it and everything.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
But it's a good show because they it shows the
the other side of athletes, you know, and I like,
people don't see what we do off the field a
lot or they just don't know, you know. So it's
like it's important especially in an event like the Super
Bowl to be able to show that exposure.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Now, can you be honest with us? Was there like
a crappy piece of artists? Like, man, I can't believe
somebody put this up on display and somebody gonna buy this.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Like you saw couple You're just like, I'm not gonna
call it.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I'm not asking, I'm not asking, I'm not trying to
throw shade nobody, but just well, there are a couple
of pieces where you're just.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Like, man, this looked like a little third grade. Man.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
There's cold pieces I see in galleries and I'm like, man,
they just how much to be going for? Some pieces
will be going for twenty thousand? Couple of lines. I
went to Art Basil years ago. Art bas is a
huge yeah in Mia, Miami. Y is like, yes, people,
good artists, a lot of artists. It was a banana
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on a whiteboard, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
For like thirty thousand, not lying, it was just banana,
Like I ain't see not one drip of paint anywhere
on the canvas.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Thirty some thousand dollars. It was like, yeah, but this
is what happens.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
And the reason why it gets like that too is
because the artist has developed so much skill and other things.
If there's they can that their name is just the
reason why it's value.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Now, so you get put some trash on the wall
and we can sell it for like thirty g Like
we got to I'm getting there. I got to get
into galleries. Come on, we got to get you pubbed up.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I know, man, I really like I'm excited for my
journey in art just because I know I'm gonna be
I'm gonna eventually be one of the best.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
And you know, we need to buy his when it
gets to like a couple of thousands. So then because
like that's when you're at the lower stage before, like.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Then we can't afford me. What happens in the gallery today?
Dollars two hundred dollars gone? Now, Peanut, know you I
can do a smaller piece like that's that's not the question.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Have you ever tried to get any one of your
teammates to paint, Like, have you ever tried to like
you invited someone of them, like, hey, man, come to
the crib, I'm sure how to paint.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Shack.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Actually, one year it was in the off season, Shaq Thompson,
he was like he was like Rob, I'm trying to
do something, like something different in the off season. He's like, man, like,
show me how to do a paint or something we're
supposed to do a painting of Like I picked out
something for him to do, but when I think about it,
I shouldn't have picked it out because yellows and oranges
are hard to place on a canvas. You have to
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do a lot of layers because it's very translucent color.
And hold on for those that don't know what that means, transluce.
It's like, it's very it's very uh. It takes a
lot of layers exactly not to be seen exactly, That's
what I was. So you'll see a lot of the
rawness of the canvas by using oranges yellows. You have
to layer it off a lot. Yeah, Wise you'll see
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different markings that I made to show my drawing of
how I want to place the paint. So you have
to layer it a lot with yellows and white and
oranges because it's so translucent of a paint like reds, blues, blacks,
those primary colors like that, or or stronger colors that are.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
You're not gonna see it. You're not gonna see as
much much error from the canvas.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
So when I was painting that, it was like a
Margerita glass, like an orange is orange juice in it
and whatnot? And shot give on that within like two
three hours.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, so it took that long.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, But when I think about it, because I feel
like I can teach anybody, but some people you have
to have, like you have to have a uh not
even like an interest in it. I'm not saying Shack
didn't have an interest in it because you was just
trying to do something new. But paint is tough, man,
It's hard. You have to you have to be patient
with it because everybody starts off at the same level
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as a kid. Some kids may be a little better
the other kids. But for the most part, we all doodle.
We all draw a tree the same way we all
draw human stick figures. Yes, it was just the kids
that stuck with it and gain some and gain some
different aspects on how to see it that developed themselves
into artists.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
You know, new challenge for you. When I definte I'm
gonna get a canvas, You're gonna get a canvas. We're
gonna sit across from each other.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
I can teach you.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Guys, we're gonna paint each other and each other. We're
gonna paint each other. I'm gonna payt you. You're gonna
paint me.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I've one I need one color black and grace, black
and gret I hate this idea already, but I.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Started teaching kids how to paint two and twenty in
nineteen that I learned how to paint, and just like
as a volunteer, and I feel like I personally feel
like I can teach anybody to paint, just because I
know how to articulate it in ways. And you know,
every dB that comes into the room, they're not gonna
press the same. You're not gonna not gonna be able
to shuffle their feet the same.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
So a good coach, a good coach that's able to teach,
is able to adjust with the player and teach them
the proper way of being in the scheme of our defense.
You know. The spot flight footballs helped me also be
a good teacher. I'm able to to see different things
about people. You know, what is your favorite piece that
you've ever done, if you had one the pieces I
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do with my daughter. So I do, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
From the time she was a baby, I've done portraits
of her.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
When I first learned to do color pencil pieces, My
first learned how to do color pencil porches. So every
year I try to do a portrait of her for
when the time she turns to eighteen, I'm gonna give
her all the portraits of her as she grows, so
she can see through my artwork her face has changed,
how she's matured.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
I kind of want to.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I feel like every artist in the Renaissance error in
the past, they've always had like their loved ones that
they've painted and whichh that you could see the growth
of that person growing up and maturing, or just their
passionate love towards that person. So from the time she
was a baby and the time I first learned how
to do color pencils, I've always wanted to be able
to drop portraits. And when I learned how to do
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portraits from a class that chest Stain, it was it
was automatic for me to do my daughter almost every year.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
So I have about eight pieces seven pieces of.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Her already, you know, So I want to be able
to give her that as like my homage to her
for my art, you know, and she's an artist as well.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
She's actually pretty sCOD to drawing. That's dope. That's dope.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
So if you could draw Mount Rushmore up here right
now or painted, I should say, who would you paint
on your Mount Rushing?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Why are you gonna put him in the box the
painting Mount Rushmore for like what? Like just just like
in life? So who've helped you get to where you
are right now? My father?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You know, my father's huge rock for me. He very
similar to him in a lot of ways. He's uh,
I feel like my my benchmark is still to reach him.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
You know what I'm saying. He's still improving, he's still reading,
still gaining knowledge.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
My dad's big on learning, which I'm big on and
I never want to stop learning. Like if it's one
thing I don't want to lose is my brain and
I want to keep able to think and learn. My
Dad's definitely a high anchor. It's tough man because God's God.
God is always number one in my life. You know,
if there was a picture of God or a face,
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you know, he's all four of them. Mount Rushmore's my mother.
My mother is just the passion She has the love,
she's taught me the respect and etiquette. And it's hard
to think of four people, man.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
But you got one more moms, pops. God. It's tough.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
It's tough because I like I love everybody very equally,
you know, but you only get to put one more.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I only get to put one on the stone, man.
I mean, you could throw my face on there if
you want to.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I take it these as I throw off these on
the last round Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Man, I mean, if you want to actually joke it.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I really can't think of a fourth because like my mother,
my father and God were things I was always taught
in life. You know, you know, you respect your mother
and father, and then if you have faith and you
follow the words properly, you know, through the us and downs,
then for the most part, life can steer the way
way way. God is going to help you, help you
steer it. And it's just it's just tough because, like
(45:20):
I asked, so many we've we've all had so many
influential people in our lives, you know, so just s
for is tough. I need like fifteen ten people. I
appreciate a lot of people that have come into my life. Man,
and in tons of different ways, whether it's military, whether
it was football, whether it was schooling my head coach
from from high school, like my coach from college, Like
(45:41):
I had my friend passing college, Jasper Howard, in my
senior year. So a lot of people that were around
me my in college influenced me to keep going and
keep pushing, even seeing death during the season of a teammate,
you know. So it was a it's tons of people, man,
It's tons of people, man. It's just that's tough. That's tough.
Maybe my brother, my older brother, he's twenty six years
(46:01):
in the military, just retired two years ago. The military too, yeah,
Army and these special forces, I believe as well, twenty
six years in Nice State, Georgia State Patrol down Savannah.
So he's he's a big influence of me as well,
because when I see my older brother doing all this stuff,
you know, I'm like, I want to be in the
military too. I'm like, Oh, he's going to Afghanistan. I
(46:23):
want to go to Afghanistan too, you know, I'm like,
I want to be al up. My Dad's always taught
me and us and our family and my siblings to
to learn about the world and learn about history and
learn about the things that have shaped societies and cultures,
you know. So I've always wanted to leave the country,
knowing our country has such a small history, you know,
knowing that the world has such large histories out there
to learn, you know. And I don't like traveling, so
(46:45):
it's kind of tough. So I was like, I love
the world and history and stuff. I don't want to
fly eighteen hours ago there, you know what. I but
there's tons of stuff out there, man. But my brother's definitely,
he's up there in the Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
He's up there. Hey, man, Moms, Pop's God and brother.
I like.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Man, Yeah, I'm very family oriented, my friends. I'm very
close to all my friends, very close to you guys,
and very close to my teammates.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
So it's like it's times of p y'all all influence.
You was a good teammate, Bro. I appreciate you good people.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Well, Robert Man, I appreciate you for blessing our time
with your time, and dude, I'm just thankful that you're.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Here, Bro, Thank you man, and that we get to
celebrate you.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Thank you by having us on and letting the rest
of the world and everybody our listeners know who Robert
McClain truly is on and off the field, and that
you continue to pour into us and we're thankful for it.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Man, So thank you for that. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Also sharing your mind that you're a very inquisitive person
that continues to learn and you will be different in
a week than.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
You are today. Yeah, fact it.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
So that's beautiful, man, So thank you for that, man,
really really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Man. I'm gonna get us out of here. You ready
to pee up?
Speaker 4 (47:50):
And all right, man, all of our listeners and viewers
out there, make sure you give us a five star rating,
give us a review, like comment, subscribe wherever you pick
up your podcast, whether it's iHeartRadio app or Apple Podcasts.
Appreciate you tell a friend to tell a friend to
do what Peanut tell a friend.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
And watch our NFL YouTube channel. That's the new one
for me. We're gonna get it all down at some
point though we are professionals. Peanut, get us out of
her dog. I'm gonna get you up out of here.
That's Robert Peanut, Roman NFL Player Second Acts Podcast.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
We appreciate y'all. It's a rap
I'm Mark McClean, I'm the NFL's best artist, and you're
here with NFL player Second Acts Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thank you for tuning in to the NFL Player's Second
Act Podcast. I'm Peanut Tillman and this is my guy
Roomanbi Harp.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm saying it again. That's your name. He can't even
keep laughing. Give me a tear, Give me a tear drop.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
It will happen if I keep laughing. You already know that,
and our guest doesn't know why you called me. Well,
we'll probably end up getting into that at some point.
But thank you, Peena, and I want to let everybody
know where we're at today. This is a different studio
right here in Atlanta, Georgia, at the our Heart studio
right here, and it's a great place right across from
(00:48):
Top Golf.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
At the Works.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's a really really great building and I want to
thank them for allowing us to use their venue. And uh,
look at the background, bro, it's dope. I like, yeah,
it's our best set up so far, no doubt. And uh,
well iHeart New York. We didn't say that, but uh,
we can't wait.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's all good. Who's introduce our guest today, Peanut. I
like this guest. I like him too. He was a teammate.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
He was, he was, he was a great teammate. That
he's a twenty fifteen season was amazing. It was, and
I'm pretty sure a lot of what we talk about
will be geared toward that twenty fifteen season. He's a
twenty ten draft pick out of Yukon. Played in the
league for eight years. He was a part of that
famous twenty fifteen season, played in Super Bowl fifty.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
He is now an artist. He's a painter. Yeah, my guy, painter.
Robert McClain, Welcome to the pop Thank you, thank you,
thanks for inviting man, thanks for inviting.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I appreciate you. I miss y'all. First of all, Robert,
you know how much we love you. Dog. The first
thing I noticed about you outside of you wearing all white,
is that what the part is? That was? Like you
pain what's your more name? From fanatics? I feel like
you was. You just came from one of his parties
for like.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
July usually painted my clothes. I was in my closet
making sure my girlfriend get on me about paint spots
on everything. And I'll go anywhere with paint spots closed.
So I've had to come professional.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
To that, and I appreciate that that little speck look great.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I started to see.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
This light life kicking in, life, kicking in man, stressed
on these paintings, like I to finish up.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Man.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
So I remember pretty vividly when you came into the
room in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You're a quiet guy.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
You kind of just wanted to just I think you
kind of just wanted to figure out your place inside
the room.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
We have some veteran guys. We were a very successful
team when you came in already.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And what week was that. It was a December. I
think it was first or second we get December.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, yeah, I know it's literal in Courtland Courtland signed first,
then I signed right at to Courtland.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Me and Courtland worked out the same workout too.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, that was my first impression, like this dude's quiet,
he can run, and dude just seems like, I don't know,
we got to figure it out and fill it out
at first.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, it was it was an ad justin pyramid a
period of mine. You know, I was going off multiple teams,
been in multiple teams already, and you'd already been with Carolina. Yeah,
I've been with Carolina before that. My first time I
got drafted to came from the Falcons. I NFC South
my entire career. So it was just it was a
difficult season because you know, you have to work out
for different teams. You're trying to get onto a team,
(03:23):
got adjusted a playbook. So me always been naturally quiet
my entire life. But I like to learn, you know,
I known we had a good locker room, knowing we
had a good coach. I did miss the Carolina locker
room for my rookie year.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
What was the difference between your rookie year Carolina team
and probably what you walked into.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I think the camaraderie. When I think about the camaraderie
of the team, like that's what allows teams to win,
because if you're not together, if not all eleven players
playing for each other, you're not gonna win games. Say
that again, all of them players, all of them players
have to be willing to do their job for the
person next to them. So like in twenty twelve and
(04:01):
the Falcons managed the NC Championship against the forty nine ers,
and uh, again I think about that team and what
made it successful. It was a camaraderie of our team,
the togetherness, how he worked hard together, how he worked
in the weight room, off the off the field stuff,
going to watch basketball games together, just like small stuff
like that. You know, fellowship. Fellowship was a big thing, Carolina.
(04:23):
When I got there with you guys, you know, hearing
you speak to the players and the DBS coach Wilkes,
all of you guys. Man, you could tell that the
group was like connected. You know that was important for me.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
You know I was I wasn't the oldest person in
the room, but I clearly was the mature one. Because
you looked the oldest just could not control. You looked
at the old help himself. You looked at the old.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I just hate that. Y'all.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Was always so serious all the time. Like I just
wanted to give me a little joke. You were locked in,
and we were so.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Locked in, But give me a laugh here and there, man, Like.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I just remember, I probably think one of the best
things about that season was the night before a game,
Wooks would always give like some dope ass speech.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Was real serious. Training train dialed all the way in.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And we're talking about Steve Wooks he was our dB
coaster that year, and he would go on and give
this great speech and then at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And it was just the DB's.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It was just us in the little room in the
dB room at the hotel. And then I would I
would always find that one that one weird thing to say,
real quiet, quiet, and then I would I would say it,
and then I think the first time I called everybody
off guard and they were like, wait, what what Only
you would say that.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Then each week Peanut break the ice.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It would kind of just be it would just kind
of be a thing, and then it just turned it
into like, all right, what you got, Peen.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I was like, well, this is what I was thinking,
because my mind would go elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Eighty HD would kick in and I would just say
something off the wall and then it would bring.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Everybody back down to like, oh yeahah, we cool. We
still got back to a confundness. Yeah. That was the best.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So, Robert, what was your first welcome to the NFL moment?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Man? My rookie year, we won two games my rookie year,
so that was a big welcoming to the league, just
seeing how the businesses ran, how the teams have to
adjust during the season.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, NFC South was just a tough division. You know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I felt like my welcome to the league moment was
probably when I first got I first started getting a
lot of snaps on defense. You know, we were we
had some injuries. I think Richard Marshall got hurt, Captain
got hurt, and I had to play a little more
role on defense besides special teams. And I had some
decent games in there as a dime. Maybe a couple
players at Nickel and I remember, like it was yesterday,
(06:52):
were playing in Pittsburgh and Ben Roethlisberg was just at me. Man,
I'm talking about Mike Wallace. I felt like Mike Wallace's
fastest human being on Earth. Man. And the balls, I mean,
Ben Roethlisberg, He's throwing rain drops. Man, he throwing the
ball so high up and Mike Wallas you know the
balls Damn they're black like it is in New Orleans,
yea in the night. And you know, so that was
(07:13):
a tough game for me. Man, it was you know,
Chuck got on me that game. But it was like
a real like moment of myself saying, all right, I
got to keep improving, you know, Uh, even though I
do work hard. I work hard in off season. I'm
never like taking days off to tell us if I
need to I'm content. I'm never content really. So it
was that moment kind of with the season we had
(07:36):
the adjustment and roster. We had a whole new coach
next year with coach Rivera. So it was that moment
kind of made me kick another gear up, you know,
to kind of push my career where I wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah. So all the teams that you played for, can
you rattle them off in order? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Carolina my rookie year. Then we had the lockout year
in twenty eleven, and then I was with Treaded. Yeah,
Dreaded Lockout, which we kind of all knew they were
going to uplift the lockout during training camp. You know,
it was like two a week before training camp started.
They have lifted a lockout. Got released that season, picked
up by Jacksonville. When that season ended, Atlanta signed me
(08:13):
into the I'm twelve. Stuck with them from twelve to fifteen.
Signed with the Patriots in the off season, got released
by them, signed back with Carolina fifteen season, got released
by by Carolina in sixteen during the season ups and down,
up and down year in sixteen for the Panthers, but
uh got released by them and then signed back to
(08:33):
Tampa that next season. So NC South always wanted me. Man, Yeah,
So what what is that? Mentally?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
What does that do for you? Like, you know you're
a good player, right, you got drafted. You know how
hard you work, you know you know your value, you
know your work. What does that mentally?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Mentally? What does that do for you? Uh?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
It confuses you a little bit. You know, we've all
played football for a long time. You know, we've all
been for the most part of the best players on
our team, top five at least, so we've I've been
playing football off.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Since third grade, all way up until now.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
This moment of not being cut or being told not
good enough exactly, you know, so it was I grew
up in a military family, So failures are are like
positives for me. Are people telling me I'm not able
to do it or not good enough. It's a positive
thing to me because I self reflect a lot. Like
even with my art, I'm a harder critic on my
art than I am on then other people are on
(09:28):
my artwork, you know, So I just self critique myself.
You know, it confused me a lot because just the
first time somebody told me I'm not good enough. But
I'm not wanting to shy off from work. I'm not
want to shy off from adversity and different things that
are going to change my path from the path that
I thought it was going to go this direction, you know. So,
but it worked out.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's your ups and downs, more downs and ups. But
as long as you appreciate those downs, you know ups
are going to come, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, So where were you at during that twenty eleven
season since you weren't on an active roster.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I was.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I think I had my least from my apartment in
Balentine up until November.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
For those that don't know, that's something the suburbs of Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, the little outskirts suburbs of Charlotte, Balentine, and I
kind of wanted to stay away from the city just
to cut out. Like you guys know, I'm quiet to
myself a lot. I didn't mind that little twenty five
thirty minute drive home. You know, it was a two
thousand level was tough. I worked out for about thirteen teens,
damn thirteen teams. I'm talking about I was in peak
shape one season.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
In one season, so you're getting calls like every week,
every week flying out.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I'm flying out. I'm running forties and I'm talking I'm
in peak shape. Man, it's I'm in peak shape. I
ran I'm running four three eights for four four ones
in my forties. I'm still running forty. I'm like, man,
they got my stuff like a year and a half ago.
I was after the com I was like again, like
passing on the strings.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It was.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I put myself in like a hole almost when I
was in that twenty eleven season because I you know,
they're like, oh, let's bring you in, work you out,
which I didn't know if they work there oder in
the season. They just want to see if you're going
to be available later on and healthy enough. And it sucked, man,
because I was working out. I didn't want to be
seen during the day. You know, everything was new to
(11:13):
me this first year. I'm not playing football. Yeah, so
you were kind of like, I don't want anybody to
see me a little lad. Yeah, I was ice. I
was very isolated in that twenty eleven season. First, that's
when I first got my dog mellow. I needed something
around me. So I was training around midnight. I was trained.
I was trained awkward hours so I could sleep during
the day and it's trained two days at night. So
(11:35):
I was training at like nine pm, E a little bit,
training back at like five am. Sleep during the day,
just guy. I really didn't want to be seen. If
I had a workout, I would switch my schedule around
so I could be more active during the day to
get the workout and be productive. But I was I
put myself in like a military afghanistand a little hole
almost to kind of tell myself, all right, this is
what I needed to do to get back on the team.
(11:57):
And I knew it was going to come. I knew
my opportunity is going to come, get picked up on team.
Got picked up by Jacksonville, but that didn't work out long,
which was okay.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
But Falcon has changed my whole career round being around
those vets. Yeah, what vestsing in particular.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Brent Grimes, Thomas Dekoude, William Moore, Dante Robinson, we had
Santy Samuel signed there in two twelve ATRUP.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's it, man.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But the thing is I learned so much stuff from
those guys man, and they what changed my career around
was how they approached the game very similar how Peanut
did when it came to having fun. Like when I
got to Carolina, I was reminded have fun. Two then
twelve we had fun. We had our whole team together.
They broke it apart in two and thirteen a little bit,
as teams do with winning seasons, and I lost the fun.
(12:46):
Got back to Carolina, I was reminded again how fun
football was, you know, so like that sparked my confidence.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Man, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Though, Like like you you forget how to have fun
because I've been in Chicago. You just grind it our
career and when Lovey Smith was there, nothing but fun.
Like we have fun the defense we have fun the
majority of the time because we were always making plays.
Twenty thirteen and fourteen, football wasn't not fun. I hated football.
(13:14):
It just I didn't want to be a part of
the team. But I was a part of the team
to when DT Thomas Davis TV, excuse me. He used
to always try to get me to come.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
To Carolina because we did the Man of the Year stuff.
And then I finally get there and I was.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I was scared because it was the first time I
was on a new team. So I was like, all right.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
And what those that don't know when you're the new
person on the team, you have to go get to
know them guys.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, it's not like somebody's new coming into your locker room.
So they got to kind of you know, the work lay.
And I was a vent though too, so that's what
made it weird. It's like super good.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I'm like years, that's my thirteenth season. I'm the new guy.
I kind of feel like a rookie, but I'm not
a rookie. But I kind of have to take the
rig your approach because this is their locker room, not
the guy.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
It's it's it's Rome, is is TD is Luke, It's
this is a team.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's great like so, and then obviously Rome j no,
you us like we had our own thing, and I
was like, Yo, this is what it is like, this
is what it's about, this is what ball is about.
This is this is that team spirit, this is that
team coaraderie exact. I love loved everything about it.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I want to know this so that twenty eleven year
you're out of football at this point, is this when
you started drawing or getting into the art side, when
you were trying to stay in the dark, or.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That year I'm mainly focused on football. Okay, I've always been.
I'll doodle here and there, but that entire football season
was all just all tin.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So you weren't thinking about the next career at this point.
Now you're just ball at this point. Yeah, in my head,
I'm like, I'm not I'm not done. I've already had
dreams and and and and positive thoughts in my in
my into wish is that I was going to have
a successful, long career that I wanted to have. You know,
even though I didn't play the years I wanted to play,
(15:07):
as pretty sure a lot of us have.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It was I know I wasn't done, and I wasn't
gonna let somebody else tell me I'm done playing football.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, well you're talking about that.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, how gratifying was it to be a starter in
Super Bowl fifty with the Carolina team that you came
in late to Yeah yeah, it was been here once before,
it had two wins. Yeahah yeah, And all of a sudden,
now you come back on the other end of me, like, man, well,
I'm on a legit team.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And we go to the got goosebumps thinking about that, man,
because it's like a full circle almost, you know, I
think back to the MC Championship on twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's like it's targetting that game. It's hard getting to
just the NFC Championship. It's hard just getting to the
Super Bowl every year. Like it was like blessing. It
was like I knew that my my faith in God,
my my.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
My prayers were being answered. I just had to stick
to the course. You know. It was, like I said,
it was a full arcle. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It just felt amazing. I still remember a couple of
plays that happened in the Super Bowl and Rome coming
over to me talking to me, tap my helmet. There
was so many things that happened during that season man,
that I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Blessed and thankful for it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Because if I didn't have certain vets in my career,
my career probably wouldn't have steered the way it went.
I had a lot of guys that I was able
to listen to, able to guide me, able to teach
me certain things about the game. When I fell, another
guy lifted me up. Another vet lifts me up or
another person says something to helped me push on to
the next step.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
So I'm envious to both of y'all because y'all got
to play in the game, didn't I'm jealous.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I know Pino was hurting man, and I was like, Man,
I know, Man, I can't imagine.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I was like, I was thinking about that too, because
that was my You were the reason why I had
the more opportunity to play in on defense. You know,
when you tore the ACL and I remember how even
how you took the injury. You know, you were very
calm about it. You never were high or low about
certain things. You know what I'm saying. You were very
even killed. You know, and just even how you approached
your injury gave me confidence going there and doing my
(17:02):
job right because you gave me confidence telling me certain
things that you know your job, go out there and
make your plays, roam all you guys. All you guys
gave me one hundred percent confidence knowing that this new
guy's gonna go in there and do his job correctly
and play for us. So y'all, I mean, I thank y'all, man.
All the time. I told my friends all the time
people that play soccer with. You know, I'm like the
beats time around like that. That that type of leadership
(17:25):
will helped me for the rest of my life and
my kids.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So, No, I was appreciative of you because you came in.
You never made it about you.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
You were more so much more concerned with about how
everybody else viewed you in that room, because at the
end of the day, you just didn't want to let
us down.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Said and Wilkes, remember, Will like, man, you're gonna go
out there and tap or something. And he was like,
was like, man, coach on, don't come to me like that. Man,
I'm gonna go out there and do my job for
this team. Now, I'm not gonna go you know, Wilkes
teas us here and there, especially when I was new.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Are you going to McClain, you're gonna be able to
like Rob, You're gonna.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Be able to make this or this and that that
coach strust When I get out there on that field,
I'm gonna do my job, man, all.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
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can tell me. Okay.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Super Bowl fifty, Robert played in fifty eight of the
sixty defensive snaps in that game. Only Luke, Keithley and
Thomas Davis played more snaps than you, including more than me,
which is a whole other deal. But shout out to
Thomas and his race.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Don't even get wrong, I didn't not play that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, Late Night talks about about Super Bowl fifty and yeah, man,
we'll save that for How do you respond to that?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Thomas would love to know.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Uh, you probably played better than him too. I dropped
that pick early in the gaes. Bring that I thinking about.
That's all I think about because we were down by six.
We're down by six for so long, and I'm like,
I keep I kept fresh. My mom like, I should
have put two hands out there. I would have took
it back ninety yards. That's that changed the game.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
What people do not understand is when your defensive back
and you go with this hand or the long arm,
it's a different mindset and it's just a confidence thing
to just.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Bring the other one with you exactly. It's kind of
what you're talk though.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Just to put that one arm out like and secure
the secure that's kind of what you're.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Safety net and it's just a confidence thing to just
go there. And that's all it was.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And I was there so early, you were there so early.
So I read the three step by and I was
amazing at reading three steps through my entire football career.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I was just good at tuning on the quarterback, reading
those mechanisms that they had for running three steps, whether
they shotgun under the gun, I mean under the center.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I just knew how to read three step. You know.
Peyton went throwing, he wasn't his.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
He was he was all short games, short game.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
That was.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, we still lost that. Oh my god, I know this.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Is Super Bowl performance and intensively and like guy knows
how long you know, So it was.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
It was tough.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Man. I thought back to that one played entire game
in a in a coral route that Emanuel Sanders caught
on me that he got a first down on a
lot of little plays that I'm like, you know, we
how we analyze the film, there's plays that we know
we could have made defensively and offensively that we could
have won the game one or two plays, you know,
So all.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Right, man, let's let's let's get off the super Bowl
because I'm getting I'm getting mad. I'm kind of mad
right now because he put the damn super Bowl fifty
courses in there. Every time we do this show at
at super Bowl, I get reminded by this dummy over
here that I don't have it. I thought it, but
he reminds me, Oh my god, he reminds me, I
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got my ring.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know how many rings? You got? Zero?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Like, all right, I can't say nothing right the gray
haired banded just go ahead and talk about your peanut
punch stuff. I'm not even talking about that class is.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
That that's doing the stamped in the books history right there,
that peanut punch that Jones stamped in the books forever.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That John is real skill. Like there's nobody defensively. I
feel like that script the ball as as as pure
as you did. I appreciate that. And effectively, every single
every single like every game, you are attacking the ball
in a way that you could affect like runners, receivers,
running backs they knew they coming to you, come to
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your side like security.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Ball, and it's infectious. I would give Peanut that much
credit because Steve Wilks would tell.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Us like, hey, dude, you gotta run through the ball,
just no peanuts.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Somehow know is gonna get a ball and he's like,
and it spreads like next thing. You know, everybody starts
doing it just because we watch you do it. So
he's not wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.
So I know you're an artist.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
How how long have you been been painting, drawing, sketching.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Drawing, sketching, doing all things artistically since I think third
grade or fourth grade. So that's when I realized I
was I was naturally skilled in drawing. It was a
summer that you know, everybody was big in the anime
in some way or form.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Who was your first anime? Drawing? Dragon ball Z?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Still I still have all my my original Dragon ball
Z drawings from when I was in element school.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Your favorite Dragon ball Z? Care? Uh? Goku?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I like everybody likes Goku, but I kind of like
the villains a lot. I was like, I'm a vegeta
vegeta cool vegeta cool me, but I always just like villains.
I like, I like, I like the guys that are
like villain. He was was really and he ended up
coming with the good team. A villain guy I like
the like Goku Black. I don't know if you know. Yeah,
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so Goku Black.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I like him.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
This guy like the adversity they bring and the change
they have to bring into the animate to change the story.
You know, it's written well. A lot of animates are
written really well.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And one did all that.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
That's the crazy he just last year last Yeah, I
thought he just he just passed.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
He did. I want to. I want to. Can I
can I commission you to draw a peanut punch.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Man like you come up with whatever you I want
the artists to be an artist.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I can come up with something. I will pay you.
I want. I want to. I want Yeah, we can
come up bring this on the show. I can come something.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You brought some art today, right, Yeah? I brought some art.
I brought a I brought like a very inspiring peace
of mind. I like I like to paint like inspiring
people that have have inspired not just one person, but
just multiple people in different ways, whether it's music, whether
it's sports, whether it's how they speak to.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
People in communities and whatnot. Politics. You know. I like
to inspire people.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You know, I like to be able to touch people
in ways that you don't have to use words all
the time.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Now, this is a draw artist, I mean a painting
of nip yep right, yes, and so he's passed away now,
but a great artist when he was alive, a businessman. Really,
he's doing a lot of different things out there in
LA So maybe talked about what inspired you to do
him specifically.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Just how he how he was in his community. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Everybody has their own backgrounds on troubling backgrounds, you know
what I'm saying. So what you've done in the past
doesn't shape who you are now.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
God has given us the ability to be able to
change and do things in a positive way in life.
And I felt like what he's done for a lot
of people inspiring wise, Like if you listen to a
lot of his words and his music, Yeah, talks about
a lot of pain talks about a lot of times
he could have given up, talked about a lot of
times he could have steered different directions, but how he
stayed to his course. You know, Painting things like that
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just gives me when I look at my paintings. To
certain people like that. It just brings back a hunger
and myself to keep going, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Talk about the colors though, I want, I want to
ask you, like why the red the I can't I
can't see all the colors right now because it's I'm
facing the back of it. But while they're red in
the background, Like, how do you because obviously it's it's
a picture that you you you took from Yeah, why
those specific colors?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Like I just I wanted something different. I wanted to show, like.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
When you when you look at the like the infrared
heat like of a human. You know, you see they
could be sad and their body could be slightly cool,
or they could be happy and their body can be
showing their their warmness. So I kind of wanted to
show the different temperatures on his skin, the different temperatures
of his body, being the blue the red. I wanted
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the picture to be very dynamic. You know, it's a
it's a photo that many artists of painting, tons of
artists of paint, especially when he passed. You know, I'm
not one to paint a lot of people when they passed.
Right way, I feel like it's like a respecting I
don't like to monetize by uh by, by something trending.
So when when I painted it, I kind of I
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wanted it to be a dynamic piece. I wanted the
piece to make you make you look at it longer
than just being like, wait, this is the original photo
from this picture. But he's bringing in so many colors
and different features to still bring form and tones and
coolness or hotness is to the to the piece. So
I wanted to show the different ranges that Nipsey has
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towards like people. You know, he could be cool with
this person, there could be a little hotter with this person.
You know, not saying hot or cooler is bad or good,
but just his personality towards different people, businesses, music.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, Robert, you sound like a real true artist. You
talking about infrared the hotness. Yeah, just really deep. This
is this is what artists.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I studied a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
My wife is in the art, and so I've been
a lot of these art galley things, and you're talking
just like that. It's like a whole new language language, right,
It's just completely different.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
All right. What I want to know is what is
your favorite form of art to do?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I first started as a sketch artist, which actually helped
me in my process of painting. If you can't draw
something and make it look somewhat like what you're drawing,
then when you start adding color and layers and contrast
and shadows, it's not gonna look like the picture.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
You know, it's not gonna look like you wanted to look.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So me having that that, that strong background of drawing
and sketching was that I was able to easily transition
right over to color, which I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
And can we just talk about this because he was
in the locker room with us and he didn't talk
about this.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
No, he did this out.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Cam bout the painting from me when I bought that,
Like the team interviewed me randomly, and uh, they told
Medy to bring some paintings and that was did in
my house, like in my little kitchen or something or
my apartment, I mean, and I remember bringing them in
for the interview. It was like after practice. So I'm
in there late and then Cam walk's by.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I was like, hey, you paint.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, he bought one flag one hundred two hundred dollars,
like old paint in the mind, but it was like
aout like one hundred two hundred dollars. Man, I was like, cool,
you sold painting right during the interview. I'm cool with that.
But know, but none of you guys knew.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Nobody knew.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
And then all of a sudden were like, hold on
you Like, yeah, yeah, I saw. I saw on Instagram too.
You had a great picture of Benet. Yeah yeah there
as well. Uh he jumping up making a play on
the game.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yet they really finally played Denver that first game of
the season, and uh, I wanted I told. I told
a lot of the dbs that were a part of
my life through my defensive career. I'm gonna do a
piece for everybody. Everybody's getting a piece. The entire thieves
ass getting the piece. So it's coming soon. It's gonna
take me a while. Yeah, my friend Taylon Branch after
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do I did, my homie Derrius Butler.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
So, I'm just trying to pay pay my my respect,
my towards my the guys that I looked up to,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I bought some bought some Christmas ornaments on the website.
I got the Harley Quinns joint. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
I bought that one. I think I got the twenty
month time Peanuts, the best he always supports.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, he got that.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I forget the third one Outbohol though, but yeah, I
like I didn't know they came because you know chrimas
well asking what we're let all the listeners know where
they can my art. Right now, I'm I'm using the
NFL right now with I think they have this thing
called manpower, So I'm using that right now to monetize
my business properly and figure out how to become an
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entrepreneur in a way. You know, being an artist and
me and the creator, it's hard for me to do
the creative and then do the business.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It kind of messes me up because I'm like, I'm
doing it because I love it.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
And I also know I need to make some money
from it. But I also just want my pieces to
be in homes. I want people that appreciate it just
to have it when if somebody buys it for a
dollar or two thousand, you know, I'm like, I just
wanted to be away from me and I don't want
to stay at my own paintings. I want people to
have pieces of my art that I see is that
I love. You know, it's just tough man. It's just
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tough man, just the just the just kind of balancing it,
you know. So right now, I primarily use social media,
use my Instagram. I'm in the process of developing a
website for the most part. The McClain's Art like domain
will be I'll have it. I did have a website
in the past, but right now my mcclaims are for
my Instagram. It's just my primary source of communicating people,
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getting my art work out there.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I'm submitting at McLain's Art mc c l a I
and s Art, and then I'm submitting pieces the more galleries.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I just started doing that more this year. So it
took me five years to develop my skill to painting
to where I felt comfortable enough to be like, all right,
it's good enough, even though I knew it was good
enough when I first started. I'm like, all right, it's
good enough. Now I can put my stuff off.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Do you have you ever like taken a skill or
excuse me, have you ever taken a class on how
to paint? Or is it just like all right, I
think I'm gonna try to.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Paint now uh in twenty nineteen. So eighteen was my
last season. I was when I was a free agent
working out for a couple of teams, think of working
for Saints in Detroit, but I refused to sign to
the Saint Room. Sorry man, being in NFC Southoma entire career,
you know how the rivalry is with the Saints.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Look, I told my agent, I'll never go to Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Never. I don't care, no, never. I couldn't do the Saints.
I get it.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
The Saint the Saints for the first team when I
was that gunner to really throw me on the sideline
too so and that was my rookie year. So that's
when I really took a person with the Saints. But
when it came to art in eighteen, I was a
free agent twenty nineteen. I was actually planning on joining
the Army in twenty nineteen. Crazy, I passed my as
VAP within I had like a week to take the
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as VAP. They were going to leave Tim to sent
me the boot camp two weeks later. And I grew
up in a military family, so I was also a
dream of mine. And I was in a trans junior Yeah,
I was in junior RTC, So military was always a
dream of mine. I wanted a being the Federal Giral
investigations by being in the military. So I had a
whole nother plan after college. But after football is kind
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of like being after college again having to.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Figure it out.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
So the reason I did enjoined the Army is due
to some of the stuff with the recruiter and medically,
I didn't feel like I would have been able to
do what I need to do for my soldiers around me.
Knowing that I would have tried to climb to the
elite status and knowing certain things that are bothering me. Still,
I didn't want to put others at risk, you knowing myself,
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you know. So I decided to stop that. But it
was a blessing in disgise because I took as painting
class at Chas Staint Art Center, which is not too
far from here in Bucket, and I took a class
there during football when I was with the Falcons to
learn how to draw portraits, to sketch portraits. I was like,
let me, let me go back and learn how to paint.
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Like everybody wants paintings from me. People want paintings in
their homes. It's a more popular piece to have in
your home rather than a sketch. Was like, let me
learn how to paint. So I volunteered at Chastity and
Art Center for nine months, did a children mural there.
But they gave me free classes to take. So I
took about seven to eight painting classes that that that
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whole entire year and learn how to paint, and I
got gotten faster. But the guy that really taught me
out of paint was a beginners of painting class, and
from that point on, I was just.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Like I think confidence plays a huge piece in your
whole your whole career from playing football to becoming an artist,
believing in yourself.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
How did you.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Think you how were you received in the locker room
as a player versus an artists?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Like once we figured it out, Yeah, were you kind
of nervous to tell us about it because you didn't
or you just weren't confident enough at that time.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
To say like, no, this is like what I do,
this is not it was.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
It was football. It was like when I'm it's like
we're on a mission. So it's like I'm so military
minded and a lot of things I do I'm like,
our teams on a mission right now. We're on a
mission right now, like we're in we're in war. We're
in the seventeen week war, and then we have the
playoff war, you know. So I'm like, our soldiers have
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to focus. We have to focus on this. So whatever
we're do on the side, it's what we do on
the side to make sure we're able to come into
the field together and be a unit. You know. So
when I'm locked in a football season's football season, off seasons,
off season, but then when I'm training back in the
lock in mode, so I knoww to just put blinders
on in a way. Which it wasn't like I was
hiding my art because I know people love my artwork.
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Like I said, I'm a harder critic on myself than others.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So it's never like a fear thing of my art.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
But it's always it was always like just people just
didn't know, you know, people just didn't know.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
So did you take advantage of the NFL program as
far as the arts and teaching you those things, because
you maybe talk about that experience as well.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, the the NFL PA actually has a what was
it called Smocks and Jocks Art Show.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Every year they have it there. I didn't know that,
so please share it.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, So the nfl PA has an art show every season,
I mean every every season at the end of the
year in the super Bowl city. So the first year
actually attended this art event. And it's for former players
that are artists in all types of forums or the sculpting, painting,
any form of art you do, You're able to go
there sell your art silent auction. And the first year
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I heard about this was when the Super Bowl was
here in Atlanta. I forgot what year that was, maybe nineteen.
So I submitted my artwork to that two paintings I'm
talking about. I didn't put in any work in these
paintings I'm talking about it. I just threw some ad
fract stuff together, sold them, brought my daughter, and I
was excited. I'm like, man, I never sold a little
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two under three dollars. I'm like, okay, I'm cool with that. Man,
Like I never sold a painting that people loved so much.
I'm like, I don't even know how to paint, you know.
So it was like just from that little experience from
the Smocks, the smocks and jocks. I stuck with that
art show, and that art show also helped me stay motivated,
stay climbing, stay getting better. The exposure from it, I
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sold more and more paintings each a star. So two
art shows. That first two paintings, that first art show
in Atlanta. The next year my Super bowls in Miami
sold seven, all abstract. So I'm like, my I got
to learn how to paint now. I really got to
learn how to paint. We got twenty twenty. I think
it was in the Miami.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
It's a really good to lose actually there. Last year he.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Came to the one in Vegas. Yeah, he came to
the one. I sold my Kobe paint. I had a
sixty by seventy to Kobe paint.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, so that was probably my biggest painting I did. Yeah,
and it's so it's so it's sold, so lose there.
He has a whole interview on it and everything.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
But it's a good show because they it shows the
the other side of athletes, you know, and I like,
people don't see what we do off the field a
lot or they just don't know, you know. So it's
like it's important especially in an event like the Super
Bowl to be able to show that exposure.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Now, can you be honest with us? Was there like
a crappy piece of artists? Like, man, I can't believe
somebody put this up on display and somebody gonna buy this.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Like you saw couple You're just like, I'm not gonna
call it.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I'm not asking, I'm not asking, I'm not trying to
throw shade nobody, but just well, there are a couple
of pieces where you're just.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Like, man, this looked like a little third grade. Man.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
There's cold pieces I see in galleries and I'm like, man,
they just how much to be going for? Some pieces
will be going for twenty thousand? Couple of lines. I
went to Art Basil years ago. Art bas is a
huge yeah in Mia, Miami. Y is like, yes, people,
good artists, a lot of artists. It was a banana
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on a whiteboard, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
For like thirty thousand, not lying, it was just banana,
Like I ain't see not one drip of paint anywhere
on the canvas.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Thirty some thousand dollars. It was like, yeah, but this
is what happens.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
And the reason why it gets like that too is
because the artist has developed so much skill and other things.
If there's they can that their name is just the
reason why it's value.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Now, so you get put some trash on the wall
and we can sell it for like thirty g Like
we got to I'm getting there. I got to get
into galleries. Come on, we got to get you pubbed up.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I know, man, I really like I'm excited for my
journey in art just because I know I'm gonna be
I'm gonna eventually be one of the best.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
And you know, we need to buy his when it
gets to like a couple of thousands. So then because
like that's when you're at the lower stage before, like.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Then we can't afford me. What happens in the gallery today?
Dollars two hundred dollars gone? Now, Peanut, know you I
can do a smaller piece like that's that's not the question.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Have you ever tried to get any one of your
teammates to paint, Like, have you ever tried to like
you invited someone of them, like, hey, man, come to
the crib, I'm sure how to paint.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Shack.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Actually, one year it was in the off season, Shaq Thompson,
he was like he was like Rob, I'm trying to
do something, like something different in the off season. He's like, man, like,
show me how to do a paint or something we're
supposed to do a painting of Like I picked out
something for him to do, but when I think about it,
I shouldn't have picked it out because yellows and oranges
are hard to place on a canvas. You have to
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do a lot of layers because it's very translucent color.
And hold on for those that don't know what that means, transluce.
It's like, it's very it's very uh. It takes a
lot of layers exactly not to be seen exactly, That's
what I was. So you'll see a lot of the
rawness of the canvas by using oranges yellows. You have
to layer it off a lot. Yeah, Wise you'll see
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different markings that I made to show my drawing of
how I want to place the paint. So you have
to layer it a lot with yellows and white and
oranges because it's so translucent of a paint like reds, blues, blacks,
those primary colors like that, or or stronger colors that are.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
You're not gonna see it. You're not gonna see as
much much error from the canvas.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
So when I was painting that, it was like a
Margerita glass, like an orange is orange juice in it
and whatnot? And shot give on that within like two
three hours.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, so it took that long.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, But when I think about it, because I feel
like I can teach anybody, but some people you have
to have, like you have to have a uh not
even like an interest in it. I'm not saying Shack
didn't have an interest in it because you was just
trying to do something new. But paint is tough, man,
It's hard. You have to you have to be patient
with it because everybody starts off at the same level
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as a kid. Some kids may be a little better
the other kids. But for the most part, we all doodle.
We all draw a tree the same way we all
draw human stick figures. Yes, it was just the kids
that stuck with it and gain some and gain some
different aspects on how to see it that developed themselves
into artists.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
You know, new challenge for you. When I definte I'm
gonna get a canvas, You're gonna get a canvas. We're
gonna sit across from each other.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
I can teach you.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Guys, we're gonna paint each other and each other. We're
gonna paint each other. I'm gonna payt you. You're gonna
paint me.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I've one I need one color black and grace, black
and gret I hate this idea already, but I.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Started teaching kids how to paint two and twenty in
nineteen that I learned how to paint, and just like
as a volunteer, and I feel like I personally feel
like I can teach anybody to paint, just because I
know how to articulate it in ways. And you know,
every dB that comes into the room, they're not gonna
press the same. You're not gonna not gonna be able
to shuffle their feet the same.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
So a good coach, a good coach that's able to teach,
is able to adjust with the player and teach them
the proper way of being in the scheme of our defense.
You know. The spot flight footballs helped me also be
a good teacher. I'm able to to see different things
about people. You know, what is your favorite piece that
you've ever done, if you had one the pieces I
(42:14):
do with my daughter. So I do, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
From the time she was a baby, I've done portraits
of her.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
When I first learned to do color pencil pieces, My
first learned how to do color pencil porches. So every
year I try to do a portrait of her for
when the time she turns to eighteen, I'm gonna give
her all the portraits of her as she grows, so
she can see through my artwork her face has changed,
how she's matured.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
I kind of want to.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I feel like every artist in the Renaissance error in
the past, they've always had like their loved ones that
they've painted and whichh that you could see the growth
of that person growing up and maturing, or just their
passionate love towards that person. So from the time she
was a baby and the time I first learned how
to do color pencils, I've always wanted to be able
to drop portraits. And when I learned how to do
(43:01):
portraits from a class that chest Stain, it was it
was automatic for me to do my daughter almost every year.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
So I have about eight pieces seven pieces of.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Her already, you know, So I want to be able
to give her that as like my homage to her
for my art, you know, and she's an artist as well.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
She's actually pretty sCOD to drawing. That's dope. That's dope.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
So if you could draw Mount Rushmore up here right
now or painted, I should say, who would you paint
on your Mount Rushing?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Why are you gonna put him in the box the
painting Mount Rushmore for like what? Like just just like
in life? So who've helped you get to where you
are right now? My father?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You know, my father's huge rock for me. He very
similar to him in a lot of ways. He's uh,
I feel like my my benchmark is still to reach him.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
You know what I'm saying. He's still improving, he's still reading,
still gaining knowledge.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
My dad's big on learning, which I'm big on and
I never want to stop learning. Like if it's one
thing I don't want to lose is my brain and
I want to keep able to think and learn. My
Dad's definitely a high anchor. It's tough man because God's God.
God is always number one in my life. You know,
if there was a picture of God or a face,
(44:15):
you know, he's all four of them. Mount Rushmore's my mother.
My mother is just the passion She has the love,
she's taught me the respect and etiquette. And it's hard
to think of four people, man.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
But you got one more moms, pops. God. It's tough.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
It's tough because I like I love everybody very equally,
you know, but you only get to put one more.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I only get to put one on the stone, man.
I mean, you could throw my face on there if
you want to.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I take it these as I throw off these on
the last round Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Man, I mean, if you want to actually joke it.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I really can't think of a fourth because like my mother,
my father and God were things I was always taught
in life. You know, you know, you respect your mother
and father, and then if you have faith and you
follow the words properly, you know, through the us and downs,
then for the most part, life can steer the way
way way. God is going to help you, help you
steer it. And it's just it's just tough because, like
(45:20):
I asked, so many we've we've all had so many
influential people in our lives, you know, so just s
for is tough. I need like fifteen ten people. I
appreciate a lot of people that have come into my life. Man,
and in tons of different ways, whether it's military, whether
it was football, whether it was schooling my head coach
from from high school, like my coach from college, Like
(45:41):
I had my friend passing college, Jasper Howard, in my
senior year. So a lot of people that were around
me my in college influenced me to keep going and
keep pushing, even seeing death during the season of a teammate,
you know. So it was a it's tons of people, man,
It's tons of people, man. It's just that's tough. That's tough.
Maybe my brother, my older brother, he's twenty six years
(46:01):
in the military, just retired two years ago. The military too, yeah,
Army and these special forces, I believe as well, twenty
six years in Nice State, Georgia State Patrol down Savannah.
So he's he's a big influence of me as well,
because when I see my older brother doing all this stuff,
you know, I'm like, I want to be in the
military too. I'm like, Oh, he's going to Afghanistan. I
(46:23):
want to go to Afghanistan too, you know, I'm like,
I want to be al up. My Dad's always taught
me and us and our family and my siblings to
to learn about the world and learn about history and
learn about the things that have shaped societies and cultures,
you know. So I've always wanted to leave the country,
knowing our country has such a small history, you know,
knowing that the world has such large histories out there
to learn, you know. And I don't like traveling, so
(46:45):
it's kind of tough. So I was like, I love
the world and history and stuff. I don't want to
fly eighteen hours ago there, you know what. I but
there's tons of stuff out there, man. But my brother's definitely,
he's up there in the Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
He's up there. Hey, man, Moms, Pop's God and brother.
I like.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Man, Yeah, I'm very family oriented, my friends. I'm very
close to all my friends, very close to you guys,
and very close to my teammates.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
So it's like it's times of p y'all all influence.
You was a good teammate, Bro. I appreciate you good people.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Well, Robert Man, I appreciate you for blessing our time
with your time, and dude, I'm just thankful that you're.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Here, Bro, Thank you man, and that we get to
celebrate you.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Thank you by having us on and letting the rest
of the world and everybody our listeners know who Robert
McClain truly is on and off the field, and that
you continue to pour into us and we're thankful for it.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Man, So thank you for that. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Also sharing your mind that you're a very inquisitive person
that continues to learn and you will be different in
a week than.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
You are today. Yeah, fact it.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
So that's beautiful, man, So thank you for that, man,
really really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Man. I'm gonna get us out of here. You ready
to pee up?
Speaker 4 (47:50):
And all right, man, all of our listeners and viewers
out there, make sure you give us a five star rating,
give us a review, like comment, subscribe wherever you pick
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Appreciate you tell a friend to tell a friend to
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Speaker 2 (48:07):
And watch our NFL YouTube channel. That's the new one
for me. We're gonna get it all down at some
point though we are professionals. Peanut, get us out of
her dog. I'm gonna get you up out of here.
That's Robert Peanut, Roman NFL Player Second Acts Podcast.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
We appreciate y'all. It's a rap
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