NFL Network Insiders Tom Pelissero and Ian Rapoport break the news on Derek Carr’s potential season-ending shoulder injury. Tom and Ian also report on the Browns signing Joe Flacco. Dual-threat prospect Travis Hunter says he can play every snap in an NFL game. Top offensive tackle prospect Josh Conerly Jr. joins the show, Rhett Lewis reveals key parts of his Mock Draft 1.0, and Adam Rank plays fact or fiction with several quarterback scenarios around the NFL. Plus, Jane Slater reports on the Cowboys and Cam Wolfe on the Saints & Dolphins.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
It's only April eleventh, and we already have our first
quarterback injury that could impact the twenty twenty five season.
Where do the Saints go from here? With Derek Carr's
status in jeopardy again, we will tell you the latest.
In New Orleans, the NFL Draft is just thirteen days away,
and Travis Hunter will not have to wait long to
hear his name called.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Will he be an NFL receiver? A corner?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Both hear what the Heisman Trophy winner is saying now
about his positional and geographical destinations. Michael Parsons does not
appear to be headed out of Dallas, but he also
does not appear to be close to a record breaking contract.
Jane Slater is going to be here nobody better to
break down all angles as the offseason program approaches, and
also discussed where the Cowboys could look with the number
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twelve pick. Welcome Inside with the Insiders alongside Ian Rappaport,
I'm Tom Pilicero in the NFL Network newsroom in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We got special guests on the show tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Josh Connerley, junior tackle from Oregon, a potential first round pick.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
He's going to be on the show.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So is our buddy Brett Lewis, who unleashed a mock
draft with a shocking trade at number two. Stick around
and hear from rep. But let's begin with the big
news that Ian reported a short time ago. Derek Carr,
whose time in New Orleans has been marked by a
number of things but certainly including injuries, now dealing with
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another one and his season. Ian sounds like it is
very much in Jeffarty.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
My understanding is that Derek Carr faces a murky future
in New o owns specifically rated to the twenty twenty
five season. Sources say Derek Carr is now dealing with
a significant shoulder injury, believed to be a throwing shoulder
injury that he has now been seeking medical opinions on.
From what I understand, a decision is coming from Carr
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on how he is going to proceed, and yes, surgery
is an option. If Derek Carr did in fact have surgery,
it would likely take him off the field at the
very least the start of the twenty twenty five season,
likely more likely would put the New Orleans Saints and
new coach Kellen Moore in this entirely new staff on
the field without the person who has been their starting
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quarterback for the last several years. We do not know
as of right now the immediate future of car Noise.
It clear how and when this injury happened. Believed to
have occurred at some point last season. Remember, he was
dealing with a broken non throwing end to end this
season and that was it. It's unclear if he had
the injury at that time. There's still a ton of
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questions tom for the New Orleans Saints. What we know
now is that Derek Carr needs to make a decision
based on the medical opinions he will receive. And we
also know that heading into the NFL Draft, where the
Saints pick number nine, there's now a major major question
about their quarterback need. In the first round or certainly early.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Saints Oderek Carr forty million dollars, it's guaranteed this season.
There was back and forth in the off season about
whether or not, potentially they would restructure it in a
more substantial way, including a pay cut. Car was not going.
Along with that, there were retirement rumblings among other things.
Now here we are once again wondering who the Saints
quarterback is going to be should be noted they own
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the number nine overall pick, and even before this came
to light, the Saints were doing their homework on a
lot of different potential quarterbacks that could be factors in
the draft, whether that's at number nine or it's later on.
As we evaluate the future of Schadoor Sanders, Jackson Dart
among others, and Tyler Shook potentially as well, it is
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notable that perhaps while they've always needed that quarterback of
the future, now they might also need the quarterback of
right now. In related news, the Browns added yet another
quarterback to their room. It is Joe Flacco who is
back in Cleveland. It's a one year, four million dollar contract.
He ken earn up to thirteen million dollars with incentives.
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This is backup quarterback tight money for Joe Flacco on
a team that also acquired Kenny Pickett by trade in
the offseason, but owns the number two overall pick and
five picks in the first three rounds or so in
the draft. You take a look at some of the
mock drafts that our experts have done and who they
are picking for the Browns. You see some love for
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shandor Sanders as well as Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Ret Lewis. So now we gave it away.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
He'll break it all.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Down and how in the world they got to end
up taking Ashton genty. They did not do it at
number two. I'll leave the rest of it to him.
But when it comes to Joe Flacco Ian and the Browns,
this is not a move that precludes them from doing anything,
whether that's through a trade or the draft, but it
does add a quarterback to Kevin Stefanskian company.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Know well, the goal of NFL teams, as you know, Tom,
is that they want to enter the upcoming draft, whichever
year it is. But we'll talk this year's draft because
that's coming up in about two weeks. They want to
enter the draft with a team that they could feel right. Basically,
they want to say, if the season started today, we
would have a team ready.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Now. The hope is to go into.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
The draft draft the best player available and not need
need anything.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
The Browns are now in that position.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
That's basically how it would characterize the signing today of
Joe Flacco. One year he gets three million dollars guaranteed
you right, That is basically backup quarterback money. But at
least they have a quarterback room that could go into
the season and be okay. My understanding does not take
them away from anything. It's actually similar to the New
York Giants that with Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston. Could
they take a quarterback, of course they could. Could they
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take them in the first round, of course they could.
Similar to the Cleveland Browns, if it's a quarterback of
the future, They're not going to let a signing of
Joe Flacco for not a lot of money take them
away from that. It just gives them a little security
in case maybe someone takes the quarterback they want, in
case they try to execute the trade. It does happen,
and of course a lot of good feelings between Cleveland
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and Joe flack of considering what he did leading to
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
This is kind of a cool reunion.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That was not the only reunion for a veteran quarterback
earlier today, the Seahawks also brought back an old friend.
It is Drew lock who is returning for Seattle in
a second stint after initially being acquired as part of
the Russell Wilson trade. Locksman last season with the Giants
did have some productive moments for them. Now back in
Seattle where he still has a lot of fans, this
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time around as a backup quarterback behind Sam Darnold. Sam
Howell also in that quarterback room, and Josh Johnson is
headed back to the Commanders. Did Josh Johnson play for
the Commanders previously? He did, But it's also pretty safe
to say that any Josh Johnson team is a reunion.
He has played for pretty much the entire league. He
is now back behind Jayden Daniels in Washington. Meanwhile, that
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NFL Draft just thirteen days away. Jalen Miller another name
the potentially you could here called in the first round
of the draft. And if that happens, Jayleen Milroe wants
to tell you why I.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Don't consider it a challenge.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I considered it as a superpower.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
You know, it's something that's traits that people don't have,
and so why not benefit from that and why not
prepare to keep on dominating defenses and be able to
have something that other people have, because.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You know, it's unique, you know something everybody wants you
to have.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
My superpower having my legs and my arms, So why
did I use that as a crush against myself because
someone doesn't like it if you don't like it stopping.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So I'm not, you know, phased by that that phase
of you.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Know why you're you know, while you're a runner and
things like that, because at the end of the day,
it's hard for defensive defensive coordita to stop it. You know,
one one corver that do not get at all. It's
too man, because no one has me. So it's it's
it's it's definitely a superpower of mind, and I use
my stress as my superpower.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Jail and Milroe played a lot of big games. So
did this guy, Quinn?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You ers only did was go to a couple of
college football playoffs when eleven to one on the road
as a starter, won a conference title in one conference,
then went to another one and took that team to
a conference championship game. I had him on the Rich
Eisen Show earlier today and asked him what he thinks
to the fact that he's not really been in the
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conversation with those other big names.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Yeah, man, I mean, like you said, I feel like
I'm a little underlooked for sure, you know, just looking
back at my resume, you know, winning the last twenty
one out of the twenty six games that I played,
like you said, going to Big twelve, winning that game,
then first year in the SEC, going to the SEC
championship game, you know, back to back years in the
college football playoffs, and you know, it was a fun ride,
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and I mean, I couldn't be more excited. And like
you said, I feel like I'm the most polished quarterback
I've been through the most coming out of this draft
the most. I just feel like I'm the resiliency that
I've shown in the minch toughness that I've shown. It's
pretty much unmatched from from kind of what I had
to what I had to deal with and what I've
been through, and I wouldn't trade any of it for anything.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I think it's getting ready for.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
The NFL and whatever is to come by way.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
But yeah, eleven to one on the road, only lost
with my freshman year against Oklahoma State, so finished out
eleven and zero on the road. I mean, team was
five and seven before I got there, finished twenty seven
to five my last few years. You know, it was
fun turning that program around, and you know, with some help obviously,
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but it was it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh, Bucky Brooks overloo Quin youwers as well. Here's his
top five quarterback prospects. Chadour at number one, Bucky's staying
on that island, cam Wore Jackson Dark, Jalen Miler, and
then Kyle McCord at Syracuse, the one time Ohio state
starter checking in at number five. Travis Hunter is in
Bucky's top five. I believe in multiple positions. He's a corner,
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He's a receiver.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
He is a.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Unicorn in this draft. And he told the Associated Press
recently that he's still unsure what side of the ball
teams will want him to focus on. That could vary
based upon the team that he ends up going to.
The Browns have made pretty clear that they would potentially
look at him as a wide receiver prospect. Other teams
would look at him as a corner.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
What are you at the next level?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Both?
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Just like you saw me play, you want to do both?
How many snaps in a football game? Can you play
all of them? If they gave me a chance and
an opportunity.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
To do it?
Speaker 8 (10:25):
And so we were talking about the challenges that come
with it. You got to be in offensive meetings, You
got to be in defensive meetings, you got to be
in wide receiver meetings, you got to be in defensive
back meetings. How is there enough time to do all that?
How did you prepare for that when you played college? Well,
we kind of got twenty four hours in a day.
We probably sleep for by eight of those, so it's
probably got fifteen more.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So dedicated to those I'm dedicated to football.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Take a look at some of the players to start
a wide receiver and corner in the same game since
nineteen eighty Antonio Cramarti, Champ Bailey, those two I'm pretty
sure were package type plays. Deon Sanders he was the
real number three receiver and had a whole bunch of
catches for the Cowboys back in nineteen ninety six. It
all brings us to the question ian of whether or
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not Travis can follow in the footsteps. So the guy
who coached him there at Colorado, and it does seem like,
as you talk from team to team, the plan if
Travis Hunter were to go there might be a little
bit different.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, you mentioned it right off the top, right, So
if he goes to Cleveland Browns A two, which is
certainly in the realm of possibilities, will start out as
a receiver, someone they believe is incredibly talented. He is
incredibly talented, and he hasn't exactly focused on receiver that much.
So whatever you're seeing on the fields a lot of
bait just based on his raw ability. Imagine if they
got that kind of coaching you get as a full
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time receiver. That's at least how teams who view him
as a receiver feel, and then he would potentially sprinkle
in at corner. But there are several other teams teams
do pick high who view him as a corner first,
and you know.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
We use the term shutdown.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
That's not really the kind of player that Travis Hunter
would be. He's not Patrick shir Tamwi. Just lines up
with the number one guys, more of an instinctual maybe
someone who would excel and zone, someone who might get
beat some of it, might lead the league in interceptions,
just a really really unique corner. Then he could come
in play receiver, maybe in the red zone. This conversation
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that we're having right now, Tom, we have not had
a lot in the last many many years.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
This is a unicorn.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
A lot of teams love him, but just don't know
how it's going to play out, and I think that's
kind of going to be part of the fun of
watching him is like it's all out there for Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I just I don't know that he's just going to
play every snap of every game.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
We'll think about some of the matches we have to
look forward to. You're facing the Chiefs, You go against
Trent McDuffie on Ovius and you flip around, try to
pick off Patrick.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Mahomes, who already is getting ready.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
To take on Travis Hunter and any other corners that
might stand in his way. Throw in for one of
his new tight ends, Robert Tunyan recently ahead of the
upcoming start of the Chiefs off season program. Chiefs every
year lose about a month of the offseason because they're
always in the Super Bowl. But Patrick back at it
barely two months later. Meanwhile, the Texans rewarding one of
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their own earlier today, Jalen Petrie, Green terms on a
three year, thirty nine million dollar extension. He gets over
twenty nine million dollar guaranteed can earn upwards of forty
two million with the incentives. That deal for Petree now
makes him the NFL's highest paid Nickel also a friend
of the Insider, so congrats to Jalen Petrie who continues
to also do a lot of great work down there
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in the Houston community. A lot more to come here
on the Insiders, including Jane Slater will be here. What
is the latest on Michael Parsons? Exactly what will the
Cowboys do with the number twelve overall pick? And after
this we already previewed it. Maybe maybe ruin the surprise
a little bit, but you'll have to wait for rat
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Lewis to explain how that trade happened to land at
Ashton genty in Cleveland. It's a lot to take on.
Stick around light it next on the Insiders. Thirteen days
(14:12):
to the twenty twenty five NFL drafts. Still time to
get your mock drafts done. Rtt Lewis did that. You
can find a full mock draft right now at NFL
dot com. And now we're at Lewis joining us right
here on the Insiders with me, Tom Pellisero, Rhett. You've
got cam Or going number one along with all the
other mock drafts we've seen pretty close to a certainty
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that's going to be the pick. So let's start out
at number two because you've got a trade right here.
Explain to me the thought process at number two.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
Well, look, I think this is a draft that maybe
doesn't have as many way up there league, top tier,
blue chip type of players, but Travis Hunter is certainly
one of those guys. He feels like one of these
guys that.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You would move up to go and get.
Speaker 10 (14:55):
And look, it's not a huge jump from six to
two for the Raiders to go up and make that
move with the Cleveland Browns, and it just so happens
to solve like two fairly big needs for them. And
I feel like Pete Carroll is a coach tom that
is going to be unafraid about using Travis Hunter full
go on both sides of the ball, dB and receiver,
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and then maybe tapering back at some point if you
need to tinker with that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 10 (15:21):
You might have to give up a twenty six first
round pick to go and make this move. But I
think you would take Travis Hunter the wide receiver in
the first round, and then I think in another draft
you would take what Travis Hunter the dB in the
first round two. So this really feels like a two
for one, and I feel pretty good about giving up
the compensation to go get this player.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
All right, So Travis Hunter goes at number two, then
at number three for the Giants, it's really Abdul Carter
unless they go the quarterback route with Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Why'd you go Carter there?
Speaker 10 (15:47):
I'm just following all and reading all the tea leaves
that you and Ian and Micro dropping, and it certainly
sounds like you guys are saying that the Browns and
the Giants might be passing a two and three on
the quarterback. And in that case, knowing that the Giants
did make some move at the quarterback spot to fill
their room with Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston, you could
arguably the best player in the draft falling into your
lap here at number three. Sure, they traded for Brian
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Burns last year, drafted Kavon Thibodeau a couple of drafts ago,
but you know, for following the Eagles model of building
a bully up front, and if that's a championship model,
I feel pretty dang good about bringing a player like
Abdull Carter, the best edge rusher, defensive lineman to maybe
overall player in the draft in New York.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So you have the Browns then going down to six
where they once again pass on a quarterback.
Speaker 11 (16:30):
RTT.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
What's the plan here?
Speaker 10 (16:33):
Well, look, I think we look back at the last
couple of playoff appearances here for the Cleveland Browns, they
were a much better running football team than they have
been recently. I think they're bottom third in the league
in terms of rushing yards per game last year. And
you're getting a player in Ashton genty. If you're watching
Path to the Draft today, we talked about Ladanian Tomlinson
type Tom at the very top if he maxes out
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his potential and sign me up for that in Cleveland.
I think what he does if you get Kirk Cousins
via trade at some point or if you roll with
can you pick it, he really helps your quarterback this year.
And then if you go get a younger player let's say,
you know, second, third, fourth round this year, or you
just wait until next year to get a QB as
a rookie, he's going to ease that transition having that
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big time run game.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
There's one other team that's had all these top quarterback
prospects in for visits, including Schnor Standers, that is the
Steelers at number twenty one.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Where'd you go there?
Speaker 10 (17:27):
Yeah, I think it's become a pretty popular projection to
put Jackson Dart is the third quarterback off the board
and into the first round, into the Pittsburgh Steelers at
twenty one. Now, look, maybe there's a team that wants
to come back into the first round and try to
jump in front of the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
To go get that third quarterback at Jackson Dart.
Speaker 10 (17:44):
But if he's there, I think either even if Aaron
Rodgers ends up on the roster, I don't know how
you feel about it, but I think even if this
gives you a really good long term option at the position,
and it just felt like they have not had that.
And obviously, here Rogers comes in, he's not going to
present that type of longevity four y at the position.
So having a high level player at Dart certainly makes
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a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Rhett, great stuff as always, Good to see you, buddy,
We appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
No pro.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Patrick Peterson, the longtime cornerback, will announce his retirement as
a cardinal at a press conference on Mondays. When just
five defensive players in Super Bowl Air to make the
Pro Bowl in each of his first eight seasons, last
played in twenty twenty three, with Pittsburgh now calling in
a career developing news tonight from Ian Rappaport, the Saints
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suddenly have a major quarterback question, their starter Derek Carr,
now dealing with a shoulder injury that threatens his availability
for the twenty twenty five season. Car currently is weighing options,
including the possibility of surgery answers within the next couple
of weeks, timing up with a draft in which New
Orleans happens down the number nine pick. Gent may or
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may not still be on the board by that time.
One of the top prospects overall in this drafty Boise
State star, who some have mock drafted to of the
Dallas Cowboys if he's there at number twelve, mock drafts
that certainly former Cowboys linebacker Jalen Smith would agree with.
Speaker 12 (19:17):
In twenty sixteen, when I was drafted, I was drafted
second round. Dak was drafted in the same class, but
our number four overall pick was Ezekiel Elliott, a running back.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Dallas Cowboys needs a running back.
Speaker 12 (19:34):
Jerry Jones and the Jones family and the Dallas Cowboys
they love Boise State talent. I played with Kellen Moore,
who was the quarterback at Boise State, and I was
coached by him as the offensive coordinator in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Leyden vander Esch was.
Speaker 12 (19:52):
A Boise State player, DeMarcus Lawrence, Tyrone Crawford. There's some
Boise State connection, and I think Dallas is ready to
make a real push come A's Draft night.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
A Boise State love connection as it were for the Cowboys,
who have drafted quite a few Boise State players over
the years, Leyton vandersh the most recent one, Cedric Wilson,
DeMarcus Lawrence, among others. As we welcome I Jane Slater,
who is down there in Dallas. Is this are we
connecting the dots and the strings here a little too far?
Speaker 9 (20:28):
Jane?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Or is this a real.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Possibility of Ashton Genty if he's actually there being the
new man in Dallas.
Speaker 13 (20:34):
Look, when I was at the East West Shrine game
watching practices, one of Ashton Genty's people came over to
me and said, we've got to start talking about getting
him here to Dallas.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I said, you guys know, I.
Speaker 13 (20:45):
Don't own the team, so I don't have that sort
of in but I think it's very clear that Ashton
Genty would love to be here. And look, there is
the Boise State connection. As Jalen Smith reference, there's obviously
a huge need at that position. The running back by
committee was an apt failure last year until they decided
to move forward to Rico Dawdle getting the majority of
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the carries. But Asha Genty being there at twelve for them,
are them even taking a running back in the first round,
I think is going to be a bit of a
stretch guys.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Again, Ashon Gentz.
Speaker 13 (21:15):
The reason why there's this connection is he went to
high school there in Frisco. He's the hometown guy. Obviously
would like to stay put. But I think there's a
couple of other ones you should keep an eye on.
What we do know from the Cowboys thirty visit so
far they've brought in at least four running backs, about.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
As many as they have at the edge position.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
Some of the guys that are really sort of moving
up and getting mocked to Dallas. Keep an eye on
Omari and Hampton and then the other one that I
think really impressed the Cowboys based on some of my
conversations was by Shell Tooton. Now, this was a guy
who ran a four to three to two at the combine.
If you listen to lanzer line, he'll tell you that
this guy has got immediate starter capabilities. He's got three
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down value. And I was told not only did he
impress the coaches in the staff with the Cowboys when
he came in last week by the fact that he
was wearing a suit, but they also showed he had
a lot of maturity and they were also really impressed
in Virginia Tech kids football like you.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Of course, it's the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
So we'll talk about them drafting a receiver, running back
and they'll probably take a center. Let's talk about a
current member of the Dallas Cowboys, Micah Parsons. We know
talks going on for a potential contract extension. Off season
workouts start on Monday. Do we know if we will
see their star pass rusher and everything else.
Speaker 13 (22:34):
Listen, we haven't seen Micah Parsons in the last two
seasons voluntary workouts. He always makes a point to point
out to us they are in fact voluntary. I remember
I asked him out his locker. You know what sort
of message are you trying to send to the locker
room if you say that, you're a leader, Micah, and
you know Micah said, the guys get it. I was
also a little shocked with his transparency when he said,
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I don't get paid like some of these guys.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
To be here.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
In other words, there are some built in stipends to
some of these contracts for some of the stars to
show up there. So that was sort of his way
of sending out a missive to the Cowboys as early
as last year that that's something he might like to
see and his contract now. Jerry Jones and Brian Schottenheimer,
the Cowboys new coach, intimated that they thought that Parsons
would be a participant this year.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
We'll see if that's the case.
Speaker 13 (23:23):
Mike McCarthy thought he was going to be their last year,
and then Parsons didn't show up. I reached out to
Parsons to see if he had anything to say on it.
He hasn't responded back yet, so that will likely be
a storyline next week. Remember, folks, he's our voluntary and
he was there at the mandatory OTAs in June last year.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
We'll look forward to Micah's answer to your text to
his next podcast. Jane, thank you as always for your insight.
Speaker 9 (23:48):
Time.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Now for a segment that we all love. It's fact
or fiction with our buddy Adam Rank. Let's start right there,
Rank with Paul.
Speaker 11 (23:58):
Let stop right there. Okay, I'm hold on for a second.
Oh boy, listen, I do this live on Friday night
every time I've got commitments. I'm going to go do
an old folks home a comedy show. And yet you
are sitting here in a different outfit, Bonsie, because earlier
when you're talking to RHTT, you're in a button up shirt.
Now you got the leather jacket on. It Is this
a clip show?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I knew what I wanted Brett to feel like. He
was not under dressed for the show, so I took
it off. Now straight back to the funds, Arelly. Hopefully
this show is not going to jump the shark. Okay,
Cowboys fact or fiction, they need to draft a quarterback, Rank, Tom, I'm.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
Gonna say that's a fact, but it's a fact if
the quarterback is Shadoor Sanders. Allow me to get out
of my conspiracy theory Tinfoil had as we go into it. Listen,
do the Cowboys necessarily need a quarterback. They don't. But
how fun would it be for the Dallas Cowboys to
be sitting there at twelve having Shador Sanders available to them, realizing, hey,
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look if we alf Shador and we have them sit
the bench behind Dak Prescott because Dak Prescott's contract makes
it impossible to move him this year, but it's a
guy long term down the road. Not only could you
get Shadoor Sanders, you could also get Dion Sanders to
be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. You can't
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tell me. You can't tell me that Brian Schottenheimer is
the plan. That's a plan. See that's everything is closed.
I'm going to del Taco type of plan. Listen, Shador Sanders,
Dion Sanders, Dallas Cowboys, twenty twenty six. The Cowboys have
the chance to do the best thing ever and they
need to do it. And by the way, I think
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that needs to happen.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I don't know what's worse the fact that you're calling
for the removal of Brian Schatanheimer before he's coached the game,
or whether you just destroyed Deltaco, which is actually totally fine.
I love Deltak, No I love Del Taco sounds like
you really do the fact or fiction. If Aaron Rodgers
signs with the Pittsburgh Steelers, they should still draft a
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quarterback in Round one.
Speaker 11 (26:05):
Let's say you this is a fact, much like I
think that Permant's is a great place. That's a fact.
Del Taco's a great place. That's a fact. But I
do too. Listen, don't make me mismirch these places, and
I will not mismirch the Pittsburgh Steelers, who have an
opportunity to build for a quarterback of the future. Obviously,
if Aaron Rodgers comes in, this is going to be
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a short term situation. But if the Pittsburgh Steelers have
a chance to draft somebody like Jackson Dark, maybe Schador
Sanders also falls down. If the Dallas Cowboys don't take them,
there don't There doesn't seem to be a lot of
teams in between the Cowboys and the Steelers who would
be taking a quarterback. So I think for the long
term viability for the Steelers, you draft your quarterback in
the future, bringing a veteran. I know this will anger
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some people, but I think it kind of is reminiscent
in the time when the Pittsburgh Steelers had touchdown Tommy
Maddox and they drafted Ben Roethlisberger, and Tommy Maddocks started
what was at eight games before he was finally removed
or something happened. Ben Roethlisberger comes in. I think Aaron
Rodgers could be a britt Yeah, this is it, Aaron Rodgers.
You're not being compared to Tommy Maddox's where your life
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is gone?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I like by the way, I like Tommy Maddox too. Listen,
Tommy Maddicks, del Taco Schottenheimer.
Speaker 11 (27:15):
Love Schottenheimer, get out of there. I'm a big la
extreme guy, so I love Tommy Maddox.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
All right. Fact or fiction?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Rank the brown should trade for Kirk Cousins even after
signing Joe Flacco.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
That's a fiction. Why are you training for the same
guy you got Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco took this team
to the playoffs two years ago. I don't even know
why they would be messing around with this. This is
no disrespect. Ian. Don't get it twisted. I like Kirk Cousins.
He's fine, He's a good NFL quarterback. However, if you've
got Joe Flacco, you don't need both of these guys.
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You got one. You got Joe Flacco. You made your decision.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You go with him.
Speaker 11 (27:52):
So for Kirk Cousins, I think there are other opportunities
for him. And by the way, it's not the worst
thing in the world to be the backup quarterback for
the Atlanta Falcons. To sit there and be a mentor
for Michael Pennix. The Falcons could be very good this season.
When you look at where the Falcons are drafting, If
they draft correctly, get that defensive end, actually sack the quarterback,
they have a chance to knock off the Tampa Bay
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Buccaneers for.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
The NFC South, Pennix Pennis looks pretty good. That's gonna
be interesting one to watch, all right. Another one for
your rank. The New York Giants are now set at
quarterback after signing Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Fact or fiction, I would.
Speaker 11 (28:28):
Say that's a fact. I really like this tandem. Honestly,
when they signed Jameis Winston, I was very excited about it.
As a matter of fact, I believe I was on
this show already touting that we needed to go out
there and draft the league. Neighbors and all our fantasy drafts,
and then the Giants come in there and they bring
in Russell Wilson. You've already done it again. You've taken
yourself out of the quarterback situation. There's no need to
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go after Sador Sanders cam Ward if he happens to fall,
Jackson Dart anything like that. The Giants sitting at number
three are in a very interesting position because they couldn't
end up with a dual Carter Mason Graham makes a
lot of sense. Or if they want to get weird,
Ashton Genty could be available. I know that you won't
make people forget that you let Saquon Barkley go and
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win a Super Bowl with the Eagles, But that would
be a pretty good start.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Last one rank fact or fiction. The Vikings are set
at quarterback with JJ McCarthy for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 11 (29:22):
I'm going to say this is fiction and it has
nothing to do with JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 9 (29:26):
No.
Speaker 11 (29:26):
I think he's good Ian, he's good. I like Del Taco,
I like JJ McCarthy, I like Permantes. Who's the backup
quarterback in Minnesota. It's Brett Rippon. That's the problem. That's
the thing. That's holding me up. I think that you
need a veteran presence behind him just in case something happens,
Just in case there's something that happens with his rehab
or something like that. If you're looking for a guy
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who might be available. Dare I say the name Kirk Cousins,
the Kirk Cousins Reunion. You know, I mean Chick fil
A is fine, but you know he's missing Portillo's. Send
him back to Minnesota and let him back up.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
JJ McCarthy rank, you never disappoint, except when you comment
on the editing and the wardrobe. On the end, I'm
saying I can talk with you again. Get out the
great jacket out of here. We appreciate you being live though.
That's actually a big part of being on a live show.
Coming up, they had Connorley versus Carter in a college
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football playoff game. And no, that's not the new name
of the next Beyonce album. We got Josh Connerley Jr.
Potential first round pick. He joins the show and also
talks about being a big man who can carry the
ball a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Next on The Insiders.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Not many more consistent players for Oregon over the past
couple of seasons than they're left tackle. Josh Connery Junior
opening holes, blocking for the likes of Bo Nicks and
Dylan Gabriel, occasionally even catching the ball a little bit.
One of us several Oregon players to earn honors this
past season, thirteen days away from finding out where he's
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going to go in the NFL Draft, kind enough to
take a few minutes with us here on the Insiders,
Tom Pilisero and Ian Rappaport. Josh, I appreciate you beating
what is life like right now? No One, sometime here
in these next couple of weeks you're gonna know where
across the country you're continuing your football career.
Speaker 14 (31:24):
Man, it's a blessing and it's very exciting, and you
know it's everything.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Got a drink for you, know what I mean? So great, Philla.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
There's obviously some questions going forward about where you're going
to go how high. Certainly seems like it's going to
be a good process, good outcome for you.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
But also what position played?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Left tackle? The last two years you played different positions.
Where do you see yourself? Do you see yourself as
a left tackle only or is the ability to play
right side, something that you take pride in.
Speaker 14 (31:54):
Yeah, I mean whatever is asked on me. But I
do see myself as a left tackle. But I mean honestly,
anything that coaches won for me, that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So now you know you're six four five a's three
hundred and eleven pounds. I would still say, based on
a couple of clips I've seen, maybe running back.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Is the position of the future.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
We got a couple of clips them letting you touch
the ball, Josh breakdown, Josh Connolly Junior the skill position weapon.
Speaker 14 (32:24):
I mean tooo, when I get out there and I
have the I have the ability to do anything on
the field. Personally, I can't really throw like that, but
I mean I got the hands.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
I could run a little bit.
Speaker 14 (32:35):
You know, ball security is always nice, and the hands
are solf, so I feel like I can get it done.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
You know, in today's NFL, having offensive lineman be like
actual athletes is kind of a real thing. Being, you know,
ability to get in space and go find a corner.
You have also been a basketball player, you have as
we talked about how to touchdown a two boy conversion.
What kind of an athlete are you? At and has
this been a topic of conversation for you as you
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get to know some of these NFL teams.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Yeah, I mean that's the attraction.
Speaker 14 (33:09):
You know, I'm able to get out in space on screens,
I'm able to mirror anybody in pass protection, you know
what I mean. So I feel like that is one
of my advantages when it comes to like just having
a big skill set of you know, a wide variety
of things to do on the field.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So there have been a bunch of NBA players that
have come out of your high school there in the
state of Washington too. I can only imagine when you're
as big as you are, the first time you're out
there in like high school, you have to be dwarfing
the other guys on the basketball for much less the
football field.
Speaker 14 (33:44):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, there's been some guys that I
played against that actually tower me, but you know, and
size wise, Like I played against guys like Paul ben
Carrow mmble. Even I've had a lot of competition with J. T.
Tumlow as well, like we grew up playing against each other.
So I mean there's always been a lot of.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Me time people and me also being tired as well. So, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Want to talk about another one on one matchup.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
It's going back to the Big Ten title game, you
versus Abdul Carter. He is a stud. He is going
to go high in this draft. I don't think anyone
doubts the unbelievable talent that he has. You had a
pretty good day against him, really good day against him.
What do you remember from that matchup and what do
you How do you view Carter as a prospect.
Speaker 14 (34:36):
Yeah, I mean he's a one of a kind in
my opinion, gets off the ball like no other. I
feel like that's where he really separates himself as his
get off and his ability to be really decisive with
his moves and just continues to just thrive.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
But I feel like, yeah, I had a solid day.
Speaker 14 (34:55):
I mean, obviously there's some things that I do want back,
and I feel like technique could have been cleaner at times.
But overall, I mean, we got the win as a team,
and that's all that really mattered to me.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It does look like you were given them the business
a little bit at one point to Abdul Carter. Are
you a big talker on the field? Do you play
the intimidation game?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Job.
Speaker 14 (35:14):
Sure, Nah, I don't. I'm not a huge talker. I
just go out there and do my thing. That's about it.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Well, you're doing a good job talking to us, sent
and we appreciate that. I want you to talk about
one of your quarterbacks, and actually you've had some really
good quarterbacks Bo Nicks. Dylan Gabriel in this draft. He
is not a big dude. Uh No, he's really fun,
really talented. What kind of player are NFL teams getting
if they take Dylan Gabriel?
Speaker 14 (35:42):
I mean you get a person before anything, you know,
someone that came in in the spring or came in
the winner and had everybody gel together by spring, you
know what I mean. Obviously as a team on the field,
we were still coming.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Along, but we all got along. And I feel like
that's where it all starts.
Speaker 14 (36:03):
And the brotherhood that he embodied and continued to just
it just started to transcend, you know what I mean,
in terms of his character, and I mean that just
goes to it just goes to show you Like why
it translated on the field during the season is because
of the way that he allowed us to get to
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know him and him starting to get to know us.
But I mean, you're getting someone that shoot slangs the rock,
you know, and someone that is a true field general
and knows how to run an offense through and through.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
So thirteen days left until the NFL Draft, What if
anything do you have left in terms of workouts visits
still on your plate here between now and draft Day.
Speaker 14 (36:49):
Yeah, I have a few visits left and then I
don't have a whole lot of zooms or stuff anymore,
but I have a few visits and just gonna be
grinding getting ready.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Well, we appreciate you being here, Josh.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Not gonna have to wait too long on draft day
to hear it name cal so you can't wait to
see in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Man, appreciate it. Let's do us again.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Hey, I appreciate you guys for having me on the
New Orleans Saints. Now a major question at the quarterback position.
As I reported earlier tonight, Derek Carr is facing a
significant shoulder injury has a decision to make in his
future after consulting with medical personnel and getting several tests,
and there is a possibility that he does not play
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in the twenty twenty five season, which, as the Saints
going to this draft gives them even more questions to answer.
For help on that, I'll bring in our good friend
Cam Wolf. Cam thank you for joining us on the Insiders.
As far as the New Orleans Saints go at the
quarterback position, yes, of course they have questions surrounding Derek Carr,
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but they also have the number nine pick of this
upcoming NFL Draft.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
What are their options there?
Speaker 9 (37:57):
Well, first, Ian, huge news from you on the injury
front on Derek Carr, and the Saints, from what I understand,
have already been doing significant homework on this quarterback class
at number nine, and if it goes how we expect
with cam Ward at one, then maybe Shador Sanders is
a top option for them with that number nine pick.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
They've done substantial homework on him.
Speaker 9 (38:16):
They sent their quarterback coach, Scott Tolzine to see him
throw at Colorado's pro DAE. I'm told they had scouts,
multiple scouts at Colorado throughout the season to watch him play.
And it's interesting because one stat that'll stand out through
draft the Saints have not drafted a quarterback in the
first or second round in fifty four years, since Archie
Manning in nineteen seventy one. And so it's a team
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that just does not invested the resources in it. But
they this feels like the year if any and so
they have a decision. Do they go about and pull
the trigger on a Shador Sanders or a Jackson Dart
or do they wait till twenty twenty six where Arch
Manning may be an option there at quarterback for them
as a team.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
That's going to be something they do their homeworking.
Speaker 9 (38:57):
They you guys had Sanders on The Insiders yesterday in
a great interview there he talked about changing a franchise.
The Saints are a team that needs some juice, needs
some hope, all things that Sanders brings as accurate quarterbacks,
as a brand, as a person. So maybe it is
perfect timing. And if it's not Sanders, maybe it's Jackson
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dark who they also have.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Done homework on.
Speaker 9 (39:19):
They were at his pro dae at Ole Miss their
head coach Kellen Moore, their offensive coordinat Doug Nismeyer, and
their quarterback cut Scott Tolzene. They also had Tyler Shuck
and the Louisville quarterback for a visit, I'm told today.
And so this is a Saints team that is preparing
for the future, and that timeline may have been expedited
even more with the Derek Carr News.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Great analysis.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Cam.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Let's go to the team in your backyard and I
let's say a somewhat familiar name for those who follow
the Miami Dolphins. Mason Taylor, a tight end prospect in
this upcoming NFL draft. Tell me why you're talking about
him and the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yes, it's a cool story.
Speaker 9 (39:58):
Mason Taylor's the sun of Hall of Famer Jason Taylor,
and he visited the Dolphins on a visit yesterday.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
He's a guy who's one of the top tight ends
in this draft.
Speaker 9 (40:07):
From what I've been told, he could go anywhere from
laden the first round to the middle of the second round,
and the Dolphins are a team that has a second
round pick at forty eight.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Maybe he's an option there.
Speaker 9 (40:17):
His uncle is also Zach Thomas, who was a legend
for the Dolphins too, and so it would be a
cool story if something like that happened in a reunion.
But he's a guy who's got a lot of interest
from teams throughout this draft process. So I'm told he
has a visit with the Cleveland Browns scheduled for Monday,
and that's a team that also has an early second
round pick. He visited the Seahawks and visit the Charger.
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So while those of us at home are feeling a
little old scene highlights of Jason Taylor and now knowing
his son's coming in, his son's going to be able
to create his own legacy. He's a guy who had
a lot of success as a pass catcher at LSU.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
He really wanted to shoot, show that he could block.
Speaker 9 (40:54):
He had twenty eight bench press reps at his pro
day ran a four to sixty five. And so he
could be a guy that here's his name called earlier
than people expect. So the Saints also another team that
has interested in Mason Taylor. I'm told maybe he doesn't
go too far as well.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
And Mason Taylor would be a big time prospect, regardless
of what his last name is. Certainly adds to the
intrigue cam. Thank you as always for joining us, excellent stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
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five offensive lineman in this draft. Tyler Booker Donovan Jackson,
both of this as the interior offensive lineman. Gray's Abel
the latest North Dakota State product checking in right there
at number three. Tom Pila Sarrow and he Rappaport back
with you, Ian, You've been pitching something for about a
week and a half after you wanted to see make
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this show, take it away.
Speaker 11 (42:04):
And here we are.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
So Gray's Abel is considered to be the top center
in this strap show, only one of the top guards.
Also a great athlete that did some digging. Reached out
to his agent, Chase Callahan and said, was he a
pitcher in high school?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I heard he was.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
He was.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
This guy can bring it low nineties some big time.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
He I mean, look at these clips that we got.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
That is the motion's great hooks like a great athlete.
We can't hear the sound, but people are going ooh,
I mean this is a baller and also plays football.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
By the way, twenty nineteen at Pierce South Dakota High School.
Point six' EIGHT era averages one point six strikeouts per
inning in thirty one. Innings pitch also works out on the.
Farms you want a baseball, player a, farmer hand it offensive,
line graysier.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Guy see You.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Monday, everybody
It's only April eleventh, and we already have our first
quarterback injury that could impact the twenty twenty five season.
Where do the Saints go from here? With Derek Carr's
status in jeopardy again, we will tell you the latest.
In New Orleans, the NFL Draft is just thirteen days away,
and Travis Hunter will not have to wait long to
hear his name called.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Will he be an NFL receiver? A corner?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Both hear what the Heisman Trophy winner is saying now
about his positional and geographical destinations. Michael Parsons does not
appear to be headed out of Dallas, but he also
does not appear to be close to a record breaking contract.
Jane Slater is going to be here nobody better to
break down all angles as the offseason program approaches, and
also discussed where the Cowboys could look with the number
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twelve pick. Welcome Inside with the Insiders alongside Ian Rappaport,
I'm Tom Pilicero in the NFL Network newsroom in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
We got special guests on the show tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Josh Connerley, junior tackle from Oregon, a potential first round pick.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
He's going to be on the show.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So is our buddy Brett Lewis, who unleashed a mock
draft with a shocking trade at number two. Stick around
and hear from rep. But let's begin with the big
news that Ian reported a short time ago. Derek Carr,
whose time in New Orleans has been marked by a
number of things but certainly including injuries, now dealing with
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another one and his season. Ian sounds like it is
very much in Jeffarty.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
My understanding is that Derek Carr faces a murky future
in New o owns specifically rated to the twenty twenty
five season. Sources say Derek Carr is now dealing with
a significant shoulder injury, believed to be a throwing shoulder
injury that he has now been seeking medical opinions on.
From what I understand, a decision is coming from Carr
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on how he is going to proceed, and yes, surgery
is an option. If Derek Carr did in fact have surgery,
it would likely take him off the field at the
very least the start of the twenty twenty five season,
likely more likely would put the New Orleans Saints and
new coach Kellen Moore in this entirely new staff on
the field without the person who has been their starting
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quarterback for the last several years. We do not know
as of right now the immediate future of car Noise.
It clear how and when this injury happened. Believed to
have occurred at some point last season. Remember, he was
dealing with a broken non throwing end to end this
season and that was it. It's unclear if he had
the injury at that time. There's still a ton of
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questions tom for the New Orleans Saints. What we know
now is that Derek Carr needs to make a decision
based on the medical opinions he will receive. And we
also know that heading into the NFL Draft, where the
Saints pick number nine, there's now a major major question
about their quarterback need. In the first round or certainly early.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Saints Oderek Carr forty million dollars, it's guaranteed this season.
There was back and forth in the off season about
whether or not, potentially they would restructure it in a
more substantial way, including a pay cut. Car was not going.
Along with that, there were retirement rumblings among other things.
Now here we are once again wondering who the Saints
quarterback is going to be should be noted they own
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the number nine overall pick, and even before this came
to light, the Saints were doing their homework on a
lot of different potential quarterbacks that could be factors in
the draft, whether that's at number nine or it's later on.
As we evaluate the future of Schadoor Sanders, Jackson Dart
among others, and Tyler Shook potentially as well, it is
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notable that perhaps while they've always needed that quarterback of
the future, now they might also need the quarterback of
right now. In related news, the Browns added yet another
quarterback to their room. It is Joe Flacco who is
back in Cleveland. It's a one year, four million dollar contract.
He ken earn up to thirteen million dollars with incentives.
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This is backup quarterback tight money for Joe Flacco on
a team that also acquired Kenny Pickett by trade in
the offseason, but owns the number two overall pick and
five picks in the first three rounds or so in
the draft. You take a look at some of the
mock drafts that our experts have done and who they
are picking for the Browns. You see some love for
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shandor Sanders as well as Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Ret Lewis. So now we gave it away.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
He'll break it all.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Down and how in the world they got to end
up taking Ashton genty. They did not do it at
number two. I'll leave the rest of it to him.
But when it comes to Joe Flacco Ian and the Browns,
this is not a move that precludes them from doing anything,
whether that's through a trade or the draft, but it
does add a quarterback to Kevin Stefanskian company.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Know well, the goal of NFL teams, as you know, Tom,
is that they want to enter the upcoming draft, whichever
year it is. But we'll talk this year's draft because
that's coming up in about two weeks. They want to
enter the draft with a team that they could feel right. Basically,
they want to say, if the season started today, we
would have a team ready.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Now. The hope is to go into.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
The draft draft the best player available and not need
need anything.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
The Browns are now in that position.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
That's basically how it would characterize the signing today of
Joe Flacco. One year he gets three million dollars guaranteed
you right, That is basically backup quarterback money. But at
least they have a quarterback room that could go into
the season and be okay. My understanding does not take
them away from anything. It's actually similar to the New
York Giants that with Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston. Could
they take a quarterback, of course they could. Could they
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take them in the first round, of course they could.
Similar to the Cleveland Browns, if it's a quarterback of
the future, They're not going to let a signing of
Joe Flacco for not a lot of money take them
away from that. It just gives them a little security
in case maybe someone takes the quarterback they want, in
case they try to execute the trade. It does happen,
and of course a lot of good feelings between Cleveland
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and Joe flack of considering what he did leading to
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
This is kind of a cool reunion.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That was not the only reunion for a veteran quarterback
earlier today, the Seahawks also brought back an old friend.
It is Drew lock who is returning for Seattle in
a second stint after initially being acquired as part of
the Russell Wilson trade. Locksman last season with the Giants
did have some productive moments for them. Now back in
Seattle where he still has a lot of fans, this
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time around as a backup quarterback behind Sam Darnold. Sam
Howell also in that quarterback room, and Josh Johnson is
headed back to the Commanders. Did Josh Johnson play for
the Commanders previously? He did, But it's also pretty safe
to say that any Josh Johnson team is a reunion.
He has played for pretty much the entire league. He
is now back behind Jayden Daniels in Washington. Meanwhile, that
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NFL Draft just thirteen days away. Jalen Miller another name
the potentially you could here called in the first round
of the draft. And if that happens, Jayleen Milroe wants
to tell you why I.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Don't consider it a challenge.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I considered it as a superpower.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
You know, it's something that's traits that people don't have,
and so why not benefit from that and why not
prepare to keep on dominating defenses and be able to
have something that other people have, because.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You know, it's unique, you know something everybody wants you
to have.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
My superpower having my legs and my arms, So why
did I use that as a crush against myself because
someone doesn't like it if you don't like it stopping.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So I'm not, you know, phased by that that phase
of you.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Know why you're you know, while you're a runner and
things like that, because at the end of the day,
it's hard for defensive defensive coordita to stop it. You know,
one one corver that do not get at all. It's
too man, because no one has me. So it's it's
it's it's definitely a superpower of mind, and I use
my stress as my superpower.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Jail and Milroe played a lot of big games. So
did this guy, Quinn?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You ers only did was go to a couple of
college football playoffs when eleven to one on the road
as a starter, won a conference title in one conference,
then went to another one and took that team to
a conference championship game. I had him on the Rich
Eisen Show earlier today and asked him what he thinks
to the fact that he's not really been in the
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conversation with those other big names.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Yeah, man, I mean, like you said, I feel like
I'm a little underlooked for sure, you know, just looking
back at my resume, you know, winning the last twenty
one out of the twenty six games that I played,
like you said, going to Big twelve, winning that game,
then first year in the SEC, going to the SEC
championship game, you know, back to back years in the
college football playoffs, and you know, it was a fun ride,
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and I mean, I couldn't be more excited. And like
you said, I feel like I'm the most polished quarterback
I've been through the most coming out of this draft
the most. I just feel like I'm the resiliency that
I've shown in the minch toughness that I've shown. It's
pretty much unmatched from from kind of what I had
to what I had to deal with and what I've
been through, and I wouldn't trade any of it for anything.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I think it's getting ready for.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
The NFL and whatever is to come by way.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
But yeah, eleven to one on the road, only lost
with my freshman year against Oklahoma State, so finished out
eleven and zero on the road. I mean, team was
five and seven before I got there, finished twenty seven
to five my last few years. You know, it was
fun turning that program around, and you know, with some help obviously,
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but it was it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh, Bucky Brooks overloo Quin youwers as well. Here's his
top five quarterback prospects. Chadour at number one, Bucky's staying
on that island, cam Wore Jackson Dark, Jalen Miler, and
then Kyle McCord at Syracuse, the one time Ohio state
starter checking in at number five. Travis Hunter is in
Bucky's top five. I believe in multiple positions. He's a corner,
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He's a receiver.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
He is a.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Unicorn in this draft. And he told the Associated Press
recently that he's still unsure what side of the ball
teams will want him to focus on. That could vary
based upon the team that he ends up going to.
The Browns have made pretty clear that they would potentially
look at him as a wide receiver prospect. Other teams
would look at him as a corner.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
What are you at the next level?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Both?
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Just like you saw me play, you want to do both?
How many snaps in a football game? Can you play
all of them? If they gave me a chance and
an opportunity.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
To do it?
Speaker 8 (10:25):
And so we were talking about the challenges that come
with it. You got to be in offensive meetings, You
got to be in defensive meetings, you got to be
in wide receiver meetings, you got to be in defensive
back meetings. How is there enough time to do all that?
How did you prepare for that when you played college? Well,
we kind of got twenty four hours in a day.
We probably sleep for by eight of those, so it's
probably got fifteen more.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So dedicated to those I'm dedicated to football.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Take a look at some of the players to start
a wide receiver and corner in the same game since
nineteen eighty Antonio Cramarti, Champ Bailey, those two I'm pretty
sure were package type plays. Deon Sanders he was the
real number three receiver and had a whole bunch of
catches for the Cowboys back in nineteen ninety six. It
all brings us to the question ian of whether or
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not Travis can follow in the footsteps. So the guy
who coached him there at Colorado, and it does seem like,
as you talk from team to team, the plan if
Travis Hunter were to go there might be a little
bit different.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, you mentioned it right off the top, right, So
if he goes to Cleveland Browns A two, which is
certainly in the realm of possibilities, will start out as
a receiver, someone they believe is incredibly talented. He is
incredibly talented, and he hasn't exactly focused on receiver that much.
So whatever you're seeing on the fields a lot of
bait just based on his raw ability. Imagine if they
got that kind of coaching you get as a full
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time receiver. That's at least how teams who view him
as a receiver feel, and then he would potentially sprinkle
in at corner. But there are several other teams teams
do pick high who view him as a corner first,
and you know.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
We use the term shutdown.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
That's not really the kind of player that Travis Hunter
would be. He's not Patrick shir Tamwi. Just lines up
with the number one guys, more of an instinctual maybe
someone who would excel and zone, someone who might get
beat some of it, might lead the league in interceptions,
just a really really unique corner. Then he could come
in play receiver, maybe in the red zone. This conversation
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that we're having right now, Tom, we have not had
a lot in the last many many years.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
This is a unicorn.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
A lot of teams love him, but just don't know
how it's going to play out, and I think that's
kind of going to be part of the fun of
watching him is like it's all out there for Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I just I don't know that he's just going to
play every snap of every game.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
We'll think about some of the matches we have to
look forward to. You're facing the Chiefs, You go against
Trent McDuffie on Ovius and you flip around, try to
pick off Patrick.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Mahomes, who already is getting ready.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
To take on Travis Hunter and any other corners that
might stand in his way. Throw in for one of
his new tight ends, Robert Tunyan recently ahead of the
upcoming start of the Chiefs off season program. Chiefs every
year lose about a month of the offseason because they're
always in the Super Bowl. But Patrick back at it
barely two months later. Meanwhile, the Texans rewarding one of
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their own earlier today, Jalen Petrie, Green terms on a
three year, thirty nine million dollar extension. He gets over
twenty nine million dollar guaranteed can earn upwards of forty
two million with the incentives. That deal for Petree now
makes him the NFL's highest paid Nickel also a friend
of the Insider, so congrats to Jalen Petrie who continues
to also do a lot of great work down there
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in the Houston community. A lot more to come here
on the Insiders, including Jane Slater will be here. What
is the latest on Michael Parsons? Exactly what will the
Cowboys do with the number twelve overall pick? And after
this we already previewed it. Maybe maybe ruin the surprise
a little bit, but you'll have to wait for rat
(13:51):
Lewis to explain how that trade happened to land at
Ashton genty in Cleveland. It's a lot to take on.
Stick around light it next on the Insiders. Thirteen days
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to the twenty twenty five NFL drafts. Still time to
get your mock drafts done. Rtt Lewis did that. You
can find a full mock draft right now at NFL
dot com. And now we're at Lewis joining us right
here on the Insiders with me, Tom Pellisero, Rhett. You've
got cam Or going number one along with all the
other mock drafts we've seen pretty close to a certainty
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that's going to be the pick. So let's start out
at number two because you've got a trade right here.
Explain to me the thought process at number two.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
Well, look, I think this is a draft that maybe
doesn't have as many way up there league, top tier,
blue chip type of players, but Travis Hunter is certainly
one of those guys. He feels like one of these
guys that.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You would move up to go and get.
Speaker 10 (14:55):
And look, it's not a huge jump from six to
two for the Raiders to go up and make that
move with the Cleveland Browns, and it just so happens
to solve like two fairly big needs for them. And
I feel like Pete Carroll is a coach tom that
is going to be unafraid about using Travis Hunter full
go on both sides of the ball, dB and receiver,
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and then maybe tapering back at some point if you
need to tinker with that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 10 (15:21):
You might have to give up a twenty six first
round pick to go and make this move. But I
think you would take Travis Hunter the wide receiver in
the first round, and then I think in another draft
you would take what Travis Hunter the dB in the
first round two. So this really feels like a two
for one, and I feel pretty good about giving up
the compensation to go get this player.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
All right, So Travis Hunter goes at number two, then
at number three for the Giants, it's really Abdul Carter
unless they go the quarterback route with Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Why'd you go Carter there?
Speaker 10 (15:47):
I'm just following all and reading all the tea leaves
that you and Ian and Micro dropping, and it certainly
sounds like you guys are saying that the Browns and
the Giants might be passing a two and three on
the quarterback. And in that case, knowing that the Giants
did make some move at the quarterback spot to fill
their room with Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston, you could
arguably the best player in the draft falling into your
lap here at number three. Sure, they traded for Brian
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Burns last year, drafted Kavon Thibodeau a couple of drafts ago,
but you know, for following the Eagles model of building
a bully up front, and if that's a championship model,
I feel pretty dang good about bringing a player like
Abdull Carter, the best edge rusher, defensive lineman to maybe
overall player in the draft in New York.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So you have the Browns then going down to six
where they once again pass on a quarterback.
Speaker 11 (16:30):
RTT.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
What's the plan here?
Speaker 10 (16:33):
Well, look, I think we look back at the last
couple of playoff appearances here for the Cleveland Browns, they
were a much better running football team than they have
been recently. I think they're bottom third in the league
in terms of rushing yards per game last year. And
you're getting a player in Ashton genty. If you're watching
Path to the Draft today, we talked about Ladanian Tomlinson
type Tom at the very top if he maxes out
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his potential and sign me up for that in Cleveland.
I think what he does if you get Kirk Cousins
via trade at some point or if you roll with
can you pick it, he really helps your quarterback this year.
And then if you go get a younger player let's say,
you know, second, third, fourth round this year, or you
just wait until next year to get a QB as
a rookie, he's going to ease that transition having that
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big time run game.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
There's one other team that's had all these top quarterback
prospects in for visits, including Schnor Standers, that is the
Steelers at number twenty one.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Where'd you go there?
Speaker 10 (17:27):
Yeah, I think it's become a pretty popular projection to
put Jackson Dart is the third quarterback off the board
and into the first round, into the Pittsburgh Steelers at
twenty one. Now, look, maybe there's a team that wants
to come back into the first round and try to
jump in front of the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
To go get that third quarterback at Jackson Dart.
Speaker 10 (17:44):
But if he's there, I think either even if Aaron
Rodgers ends up on the roster, I don't know how
you feel about it, but I think even if this
gives you a really good long term option at the position,
and it just felt like they have not had that.
And obviously, here Rogers comes in, he's not going to
present that type of longevity four y at the position.
So having a high level player at Dart certainly makes
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a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Rhett, great stuff as always, Good to see you, buddy,
We appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
No pro.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Patrick Peterson, the longtime cornerback, will announce his retirement as
a cardinal at a press conference on Mondays. When just
five defensive players in Super Bowl Air to make the
Pro Bowl in each of his first eight seasons, last
played in twenty twenty three, with Pittsburgh now calling in
a career developing news tonight from Ian Rappaport, the Saints
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suddenly have a major quarterback question, their starter Derek Carr,
now dealing with a shoulder injury that threatens his availability
for the twenty twenty five season. Car currently is weighing options,
including the possibility of surgery answers within the next couple
of weeks, timing up with a draft in which New
Orleans happens down the number nine pick. Gent may or
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may not still be on the board by that time.
One of the top prospects overall in this drafty Boise
State star, who some have mock drafted to of the
Dallas Cowboys if he's there at number twelve, mock drafts
that certainly former Cowboys linebacker Jalen Smith would agree with.
Speaker 12 (19:17):
In twenty sixteen, when I was drafted, I was drafted
second round. Dak was drafted in the same class, but
our number four overall pick was Ezekiel Elliott, a running back.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Dallas Cowboys needs a running back.
Speaker 12 (19:34):
Jerry Jones and the Jones family and the Dallas Cowboys
they love Boise State talent. I played with Kellen Moore,
who was the quarterback at Boise State, and I was
coached by him as the offensive coordinator in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Leyden vander Esch was.
Speaker 12 (19:52):
A Boise State player, DeMarcus Lawrence, Tyrone Crawford. There's some
Boise State connection, and I think Dallas is ready to
make a real push come A's Draft night.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
A Boise State love connection as it were for the Cowboys,
who have drafted quite a few Boise State players over
the years, Leyton vandersh the most recent one, Cedric Wilson,
DeMarcus Lawrence, among others. As we welcome I Jane Slater,
who is down there in Dallas. Is this are we
connecting the dots and the strings here a little too far?
Speaker 9 (20:28):
Jane?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Or is this a real.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Possibility of Ashton Genty if he's actually there being the
new man in Dallas.
Speaker 13 (20:34):
Look, when I was at the East West Shrine game
watching practices, one of Ashton Genty's people came over to
me and said, we've got to start talking about getting
him here to Dallas.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I said, you guys know, I.
Speaker 13 (20:45):
Don't own the team, so I don't have that sort
of in but I think it's very clear that Ashton
Genty would love to be here. And look, there is
the Boise State connection. As Jalen Smith reference, there's obviously
a huge need at that position. The running back by
committee was an apt failure last year until they decided
to move forward to Rico Dawdle getting the majority of
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the carries. But Asha Genty being there at twelve for them,
are them even taking a running back in the first round,
I think is going to be a bit of a
stretch guys.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Again, Ashon Gentz.
Speaker 13 (21:15):
The reason why there's this connection is he went to
high school there in Frisco. He's the hometown guy. Obviously
would like to stay put. But I think there's a
couple of other ones you should keep an eye on.
What we do know from the Cowboys thirty visit so
far they've brought in at least four running backs, about.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
As many as they have at the edge position.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
Some of the guys that are really sort of moving
up and getting mocked to Dallas. Keep an eye on
Omari and Hampton and then the other one that I
think really impressed the Cowboys based on some of my
conversations was by Shell Tooton. Now, this was a guy
who ran a four to three to two at the combine.
If you listen to lanzer line, he'll tell you that
this guy has got immediate starter capabilities. He's got three
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down value. And I was told not only did he
impress the coaches in the staff with the Cowboys when
he came in last week by the fact that he
was wearing a suit, but they also showed he had
a lot of maturity and they were also really impressed
in Virginia Tech kids football like you.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Of course, it's the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
So we'll talk about them drafting a receiver, running back
and they'll probably take a center. Let's talk about a
current member of the Dallas Cowboys, Micah Parsons. We know
talks going on for a potential contract extension. Off season
workouts start on Monday. Do we know if we will
see their star pass rusher and everything else.
Speaker 13 (22:34):
Listen, we haven't seen Micah Parsons in the last two
seasons voluntary workouts. He always makes a point to point
out to us they are in fact voluntary. I remember
I asked him out his locker. You know what sort
of message are you trying to send to the locker
room if you say that, you're a leader, Micah, and
you know Micah said, the guys get it. I was
also a little shocked with his transparency when he said,
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I don't get paid like some of these guys.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
To be here.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
In other words, there are some built in stipends to
some of these contracts for some of the stars to
show up there. So that was sort of his way
of sending out a missive to the Cowboys as early
as last year that that's something he might like to
see and his contract now. Jerry Jones and Brian Schottenheimer,
the Cowboys new coach, intimated that they thought that Parsons
would be a participant this year.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
We'll see if that's the case.
Speaker 13 (23:23):
Mike McCarthy thought he was going to be their last year,
and then Parsons didn't show up. I reached out to
Parsons to see if he had anything to say on it.
He hasn't responded back yet, so that will likely be
a storyline next week. Remember, folks, he's our voluntary and
he was there at the mandatory OTAs in June last year.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
We'll look forward to Micah's answer to your text to
his next podcast. Jane, thank you as always for your insight.
Speaker 9 (23:48):
Time.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Now for a segment that we all love. It's fact
or fiction with our buddy Adam Rank. Let's start right there,
Rank with Paul.
Speaker 11 (23:58):
Let stop right there. Okay, I'm hold on for a second.
Oh boy, listen, I do this live on Friday night
every time I've got commitments. I'm going to go do
an old folks home a comedy show. And yet you
are sitting here in a different outfit, Bonsie, because earlier
when you're talking to RHTT, you're in a button up shirt.
Now you got the leather jacket on. It Is this
a clip show?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I knew what I wanted Brett to feel like. He
was not under dressed for the show, so I took
it off. Now straight back to the funds, Arelly. Hopefully
this show is not going to jump the shark. Okay,
Cowboys fact or fiction, they need to draft a quarterback, Rank, Tom, I'm.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
Gonna say that's a fact, but it's a fact if
the quarterback is Shadoor Sanders. Allow me to get out
of my conspiracy theory Tinfoil had as we go into it. Listen,
do the Cowboys necessarily need a quarterback. They don't. But
how fun would it be for the Dallas Cowboys to
be sitting there at twelve having Shador Sanders available to them, realizing, hey,
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look if we alf Shador and we have them sit
the bench behind Dak Prescott because Dak Prescott's contract makes
it impossible to move him this year, but it's a
guy long term down the road. Not only could you
get Shadoor Sanders, you could also get Dion Sanders to
be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. You can't
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tell me. You can't tell me that Brian Schottenheimer is
the plan. That's a plan. See that's everything is closed.
I'm going to del Taco type of plan. Listen, Shador Sanders,
Dion Sanders, Dallas Cowboys, twenty twenty six. The Cowboys have
the chance to do the best thing ever and they
need to do it. And by the way, I think
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that needs to happen.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I don't know what's worse the fact that you're calling
for the removal of Brian Schatanheimer before he's coached the game,
or whether you just destroyed Deltaco, which is actually totally fine.
I love Deltak, No I love Del Taco sounds like
you really do the fact or fiction. If Aaron Rodgers
signs with the Pittsburgh Steelers, they should still draft a
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quarterback in Round one.
Speaker 11 (26:05):
Let's say you this is a fact, much like I
think that Permant's is a great place. That's a fact.
Del Taco's a great place. That's a fact. But I
do too. Listen, don't make me mismirch these places, and
I will not mismirch the Pittsburgh Steelers, who have an
opportunity to build for a quarterback of the future. Obviously,
if Aaron Rodgers comes in, this is going to be
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a short term situation. But if the Pittsburgh Steelers have
a chance to draft somebody like Jackson Dark, maybe Schador
Sanders also falls down. If the Dallas Cowboys don't take them,
there don't There doesn't seem to be a lot of
teams in between the Cowboys and the Steelers who would
be taking a quarterback. So I think for the long
term viability for the Steelers, you draft your quarterback in
the future, bringing a veteran. I know this will anger
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some people, but I think it kind of is reminiscent
in the time when the Pittsburgh Steelers had touchdown Tommy
Maddox and they drafted Ben Roethlisberger, and Tommy Maddocks started
what was at eight games before he was finally removed
or something happened. Ben Roethlisberger comes in. I think Aaron
Rodgers could be a britt Yeah, this is it, Aaron Rodgers.
You're not being compared to Tommy Maddox's where your life
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is gone?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I like by the way, I like Tommy Maddox too. Listen,
Tommy Maddicks, del Taco Schottenheimer.
Speaker 11 (27:15):
Love Schottenheimer, get out of there. I'm a big la
extreme guy, so I love Tommy Maddox.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
All right. Fact or fiction?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Rank the brown should trade for Kirk Cousins even after
signing Joe Flacco.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
That's a fiction. Why are you training for the same
guy you got Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco took this team
to the playoffs two years ago. I don't even know
why they would be messing around with this. This is
no disrespect. Ian. Don't get it twisted. I like Kirk Cousins.
He's fine, He's a good NFL quarterback. However, if you've
got Joe Flacco, you don't need both of these guys.
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You got one. You got Joe Flacco. You made your decision.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You go with him.
Speaker 11 (27:52):
So for Kirk Cousins, I think there are other opportunities
for him. And by the way, it's not the worst
thing in the world to be the backup quarterback for
the Atlanta Falcons. To sit there and be a mentor
for Michael Pennix. The Falcons could be very good this season.
When you look at where the Falcons are drafting, If
they draft correctly, get that defensive end, actually sack the quarterback,
they have a chance to knock off the Tampa Bay
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Buccaneers for.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
The NFC South, Pennix Pennis looks pretty good. That's gonna
be interesting one to watch, all right. Another one for
your rank. The New York Giants are now set at
quarterback after signing Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Fact or fiction, I would.
Speaker 11 (28:28):
Say that's a fact. I really like this tandem. Honestly,
when they signed Jameis Winston, I was very excited about it.
As a matter of fact, I believe I was on
this show already touting that we needed to go out
there and draft the league. Neighbors and all our fantasy drafts,
and then the Giants come in there and they bring
in Russell Wilson. You've already done it again. You've taken
yourself out of the quarterback situation. There's no need to
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go after Sador Sanders cam Ward if he happens to fall,
Jackson Dart anything like that. The Giants sitting at number
three are in a very interesting position because they couldn't
end up with a dual Carter Mason Graham makes a
lot of sense. Or if they want to get weird,
Ashton Genty could be available. I know that you won't
make people forget that you let Saquon Barkley go and
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win a Super Bowl with the Eagles, But that would
be a pretty good start.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Last one rank fact or fiction. The Vikings are set
at quarterback with JJ McCarthy for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 11 (29:22):
I'm going to say this is fiction and it has
nothing to do with JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 9 (29:26):
No.
Speaker 11 (29:26):
I think he's good Ian, he's good. I like Del Taco,
I like JJ McCarthy, I like Permantes. Who's the backup
quarterback in Minnesota. It's Brett Rippon. That's the problem. That's
the thing. That's holding me up. I think that you
need a veteran presence behind him just in case something happens,
Just in case there's something that happens with his rehab
or something like that. If you're looking for a guy
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who might be available. Dare I say the name Kirk Cousins,
the Kirk Cousins Reunion. You know, I mean Chick fil
A is fine, but you know he's missing Portillo's. Send
him back to Minnesota and let him back up.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
JJ McCarthy rank, you never disappoint, except when you comment
on the editing and the wardrobe. On the end, I'm
saying I can talk with you again. Get out the
great jacket out of here. We appreciate you being live though.
That's actually a big part of being on a live show.
Coming up, they had Connorley versus Carter in a college
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football playoff game. And no, that's not the new name
of the next Beyonce album. We got Josh Connerley Jr.
Potential first round pick. He joins the show and also
talks about being a big man who can carry the
ball a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Next on The Insiders.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Not many more consistent players for Oregon over the past
couple of seasons than they're left tackle. Josh Connery Junior
opening holes, blocking for the likes of Bo Nicks and
Dylan Gabriel, occasionally even catching the ball a little bit.
One of us several Oregon players to earn honors this
past season, thirteen days away from finding out where he's
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going to go in the NFL Draft, kind enough to
take a few minutes with us here on the Insiders,
Tom Pilisero and Ian Rappaport. Josh, I appreciate you beating
what is life like right now? No One, sometime here
in these next couple of weeks you're gonna know where
across the country you're continuing your football career.
Speaker 14 (31:24):
Man, it's a blessing and it's very exciting, and you
know it's everything.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Got a drink for you, know what I mean? So great, Philla.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
There's obviously some questions going forward about where you're going
to go how high. Certainly seems like it's going to
be a good process, good outcome for you.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
But also what position played?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Left tackle? The last two years you played different positions.
Where do you see yourself? Do you see yourself as
a left tackle only or is the ability to play
right side, something that you take pride in.
Speaker 14 (31:54):
Yeah, I mean whatever is asked on me. But I
do see myself as a left tackle. But I mean honestly,
anything that coaches won for me, that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So now you know you're six four five a's three
hundred and eleven pounds. I would still say, based on
a couple of clips I've seen, maybe running back.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Is the position of the future.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
We got a couple of clips them letting you touch
the ball, Josh breakdown, Josh Connolly Junior the skill position weapon.
Speaker 14 (32:24):
I mean tooo, when I get out there and I
have the I have the ability to do anything on
the field. Personally, I can't really throw like that, but
I mean I got the hands.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
I could run a little bit.
Speaker 14 (32:35):
You know, ball security is always nice, and the hands
are solf, so I feel like I can get it done.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
You know, in today's NFL, having offensive lineman be like
actual athletes is kind of a real thing. Being, you know,
ability to get in space and go find a corner.
You have also been a basketball player, you have as
we talked about how to touchdown a two boy conversion.
What kind of an athlete are you? At and has
this been a topic of conversation for you as you
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get to know some of these NFL teams.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Yeah, I mean that's the attraction.
Speaker 14 (33:09):
You know, I'm able to get out in space on screens,
I'm able to mirror anybody in pass protection, you know
what I mean. So I feel like that is one
of my advantages when it comes to like just having
a big skill set of you know, a wide variety
of things to do on the field.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So there have been a bunch of NBA players that
have come out of your high school there in the
state of Washington too. I can only imagine when you're
as big as you are, the first time you're out
there in like high school, you have to be dwarfing
the other guys on the basketball for much less the
football field.
Speaker 14 (33:44):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, there's been some guys that I
played against that actually tower me, but you know, and
size wise, Like I played against guys like Paul ben
Carrow mmble. Even I've had a lot of competition with J. T.
Tumlow as well, like we grew up playing against each other.
So I mean there's always been a lot of.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Me time people and me also being tired as well. So, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Want to talk about another one on one matchup.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
It's going back to the Big Ten title game, you
versus Abdul Carter. He is a stud. He is going
to go high in this draft. I don't think anyone
doubts the unbelievable talent that he has. You had a
pretty good day against him, really good day against him.
What do you remember from that matchup and what do
you How do you view Carter as a prospect.
Speaker 14 (34:36):
Yeah, I mean he's a one of a kind in
my opinion, gets off the ball like no other. I
feel like that's where he really separates himself as his
get off and his ability to be really decisive with
his moves and just continues to just thrive.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
But I feel like, yeah, I had a solid day.
Speaker 14 (34:55):
I mean, obviously there's some things that I do want back,
and I feel like technique could have been cleaner at times.
But overall, I mean, we got the win as a team,
and that's all that really mattered to me.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It does look like you were given them the business
a little bit at one point to Abdul Carter. Are
you a big talker on the field? Do you play
the intimidation game?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Job.
Speaker 14 (35:14):
Sure, Nah, I don't. I'm not a huge talker. I
just go out there and do my thing. That's about it.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Well, you're doing a good job talking to us, sent
and we appreciate that. I want you to talk about
one of your quarterbacks, and actually you've had some really
good quarterbacks Bo Nicks. Dylan Gabriel in this draft. He
is not a big dude. Uh No, he's really fun,
really talented. What kind of player are NFL teams getting
if they take Dylan Gabriel?
Speaker 14 (35:42):
I mean you get a person before anything, you know,
someone that came in in the spring or came in
the winner and had everybody gel together by spring, you
know what I mean. Obviously as a team on the field,
we were still coming.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Along, but we all got along. And I feel like
that's where it all starts.
Speaker 14 (36:03):
And the brotherhood that he embodied and continued to just
it just started to transcend, you know what I mean,
in terms of his character, and I mean that just
goes to it just goes to show you Like why
it translated on the field during the season is because
of the way that he allowed us to get to
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know him and him starting to get to know us.
But I mean, you're getting someone that shoot slangs the rock,
you know, and someone that is a true field general
and knows how to run an offense through and through.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
So thirteen days left until the NFL Draft, What if
anything do you have left in terms of workouts visits
still on your plate here between now and draft Day.
Speaker 14 (36:49):
Yeah, I have a few visits left and then I
don't have a whole lot of zooms or stuff anymore,
but I have a few visits and just gonna be
grinding getting ready.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Well, we appreciate you being here, Josh.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Not gonna have to wait too long on draft day
to hear it name cal so you can't wait to
see in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Man, appreciate it. Let's do us again.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Hey, I appreciate you guys for having me on the
New Orleans Saints. Now a major question at the quarterback position.
As I reported earlier tonight, Derek Carr is facing a
significant shoulder injury has a decision to make in his
future after consulting with medical personnel and getting several tests,
and there is a possibility that he does not play
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in the twenty twenty five season, which, as the Saints
going to this draft gives them even more questions to answer.
For help on that, I'll bring in our good friend
Cam Wolf. Cam thank you for joining us on the Insiders.
As far as the New Orleans Saints go at the
quarterback position, yes, of course they have questions surrounding Derek Carr,
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but they also have the number nine pick of this
upcoming NFL Draft.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
What are their options there?
Speaker 9 (37:57):
Well, first, Ian, huge news from you on the injury
front on Derek Carr, and the Saints, from what I understand,
have already been doing significant homework on this quarterback class
at number nine, and if it goes how we expect
with cam Ward at one, then maybe Shador Sanders is
a top option for them with that number nine pick.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
They've done substantial homework on him.
Speaker 9 (38:16):
They sent their quarterback coach, Scott Tolzine to see him
throw at Colorado's pro DAE. I'm told they had scouts,
multiple scouts at Colorado throughout the season to watch him play.
And it's interesting because one stat that'll stand out through
draft the Saints have not drafted a quarterback in the
first or second round in fifty four years, since Archie
Manning in nineteen seventy one. And so it's a team
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that just does not invested the resources in it. But
they this feels like the year if any and so
they have a decision. Do they go about and pull
the trigger on a Shador Sanders or a Jackson Dart
or do they wait till twenty twenty six where Arch
Manning may be an option there at quarterback for them
as a team.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
That's going to be something they do their homeworking.
Speaker 9 (38:57):
They you guys had Sanders on The Insiders yesterday in
a great interview there he talked about changing a franchise.
The Saints are a team that needs some juice, needs
some hope, all things that Sanders brings as accurate quarterbacks,
as a brand, as a person. So maybe it is
perfect timing. And if it's not Sanders, maybe it's Jackson
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dark who they also have.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Done homework on.
Speaker 9 (39:19):
They were at his pro dae at Ole Miss their
head coach Kellen Moore, their offensive coordinat Doug Nismeyer, and
their quarterback cut Scott Tolzene. They also had Tyler Shuck
and the Louisville quarterback for a visit, I'm told today.
And so this is a Saints team that is preparing
for the future, and that timeline may have been expedited
even more with the Derek Carr News.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Great analysis.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Cam.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Let's go to the team in your backyard and I
let's say a somewhat familiar name for those who follow
the Miami Dolphins. Mason Taylor, a tight end prospect in
this upcoming NFL draft. Tell me why you're talking about
him and the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yes, it's a cool story.
Speaker 9 (39:58):
Mason Taylor's the sun of Hall of Famer Jason Taylor,
and he visited the Dolphins on a visit yesterday.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
He's a guy who's one of the top tight ends
in this draft.
Speaker 9 (40:07):
From what I've been told, he could go anywhere from
laden the first round to the middle of the second round,
and the Dolphins are a team that has a second
round pick at forty eight.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Maybe he's an option there.
Speaker 9 (40:17):
His uncle is also Zach Thomas, who was a legend
for the Dolphins too, and so it would be a
cool story if something like that happened in a reunion.
But he's a guy who's got a lot of interest
from teams throughout this draft process. So I'm told he
has a visit with the Cleveland Browns scheduled for Monday,
and that's a team that also has an early second
round pick. He visited the Seahawks and visit the Charger.
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So while those of us at home are feeling a
little old scene highlights of Jason Taylor and now knowing
his son's coming in, his son's going to be able
to create his own legacy. He's a guy who had
a lot of success as a pass catcher at LSU.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
He really wanted to shoot, show that he could block.
Speaker 9 (40:54):
He had twenty eight bench press reps at his pro
day ran a four to sixty five. And so he
could be a guy that here's his name called earlier
than people expect. So the Saints also another team that
has interested in Mason Taylor. I'm told maybe he doesn't
go too far as well.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
And Mason Taylor would be a big time prospect, regardless
of what his last name is. Certainly adds to the
intrigue cam. Thank you as always for joining us, excellent stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
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five offensive lineman in this draft. Tyler Booker Donovan Jackson,
both of this as the interior offensive lineman. Gray's Abel
the latest North Dakota State product checking in right there
at number three. Tom Pila Sarrow and he Rappaport back
with you, Ian, You've been pitching something for about a
week and a half after you wanted to see make
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this show, take it away.
Speaker 11 (42:04):
And here we are.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
So Gray's Abel is considered to be the top center
in this strap show, only one of the top guards.
Also a great athlete that did some digging. Reached out
to his agent, Chase Callahan and said, was he a
pitcher in high school?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I heard he was.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
He was.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
This guy can bring it low nineties some big time.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
He I mean, look at these clips that we got.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
That is the motion's great hooks like a great athlete.
We can't hear the sound, but people are going ooh,
I mean this is a baller and also plays football.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
By the way, twenty nineteen at Pierce South Dakota High School.
Point six' EIGHT era averages one point six strikeouts per
inning in thirty one. Innings pitch also works out on the.
Farms you want a baseball, player a, farmer hand it offensive,
line graysier.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Guy see You.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Monday, everybody
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