December 18, 2024 • 42 mins
On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Dolphins All-Pro defensive lineman Calais Campbell joins the show. Calais and Cam are two of the most accomplished vets in the NFL, and they break bread on a wide range of topics. They start out comparing the current landscape of NIL in college football NFL free agency. Calais is in his 17th season, and he shares how his $350K body care routine has kept his game on point even at 38 years old. The guys later discuss the slim playoff hopes for their respective teams, and what it will take for them to punch a ticket to the postseason. Calais and Cam later revisit their worst cold weather game memories, and how Lambeau Field plays a crucial role. Lastly, Calais shares his thoughts on being a Walter Payton Man of the Year Award winner, and the motivating words he gives game on his nomination for this season.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, welcome on into Off the Edge the podcast
with me your host Cam Jordan. I'm over here sitting
rather warm in New Orleans, where may be cold in
some parts of the world, and I have to go
visit that Midwest life this Monday, playing stupid Green Bay.
And I only say stupid because it's stupid cold out there.
But that's not what I'm here to talk about. I'll
wrap that up at the end of the session. I'm
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wearing my col scarf because it's about the House of Pain,
you know, which the house is where our women's and
men's basketball teams play play over at Cal And that's
just you know, my school pride showing out.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Speaking of school pride. A man who is.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Finishing his career where he started his college career. Kalayus
Campbell one hundred SAT Kalais Campbell, six times Pro Bowl,
Kalais Campbell twenty tens, All decade NFL defensive end. Kalays Campbell,
the man, the MyD the big the big bro, the
man who again started at the you of Miami, probably
at the tail end of what was the U and
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now finishing in Miami. You know, Dolphins, how you all,
Big Dog.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm great, man, I ain't gonna watch you. I think
we was back this year. Man. I think we was
gonna uh, we was going win it all this season,
and I was disappointed in enough out of the playoffs,
but we lost the big game. So we almost lost
the cow which is crazy. Be the breaks off yard when.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I tell you, when I tell you, I had the
highest host for Cal football, and I was like, I said,
hell yeah, I said, we're starting off strong, but we've
never been able to travel well. Like if we if
you would have came to us, would have loved it.
Shut the doors. We can't travel down the street, you know.
So we're bo eligible. We'll take it this year. That's
a stepping stone. But yeah, it's it's not pretty for
(01:43):
you guys. You guys. Kim Ward looked like he was
gonna be the Heisman, you know, quarterback trophy holder, lead
him to greatness, and then things happen.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Still electric, Yeah, there's a little more parody of football
now that in I l because now the guy who's
the seventh eighth best player on like one of those
more career premier teams, he gonna go get paid like
the best player, you know, a smaller schools, and the
small schools can pay money. They got the money to compete.
So now it's gonna be marked the NFL where you know,
(02:15):
any team could any team, right, you take the you know,
the worst team in football play it's the best team
in football in NFL, and it's gonna be a matter
that team. I'll come with it that you lose.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
How do you feel about this nil world? Like I'm
good with the kids getting paid. I would say I'm
phenomenal with the kids getting paid. It's the ability to
transfer every year like it like what you just said
free agency, Like all right, transfer once?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Transfer twiser, You's got to be a penalty, Like come on,
how many free cards can you get?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I mean? But honestly, though, if you if you think
about it from a business standpoint, I would enter the
trust portal every year because at the end of the day,
that's why I figure out what my value is. It's like,
if you can be a free agent every season, after
every NFL season, I get to be a free agent
and I can see what my value is after any contract,
you'd be like, you know what, last year that's paying
me fifteen million. You know this year, let me go
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see what they want to pay me this year. Mike
might get fifteen, make get twenty. You know, it's like Mike,
Mike get ten.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Stay your ass home.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
True, true, true, But if you go out there and
ball and you have a big gear, like why not
you know, I mean, so I get it, but it
does suck because college is supposed to be you know,
it was supposed to be you know, the amateur like
we just love ball playing for the level of the game.
And now you made it. Its many business.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It's a business. It's a business. Now we're making business decisions.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
My dad said, my mom said, you know, I feel
like I need to get paid X.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Okay, we get it. You good? Right now?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
The goal is thought the goal was always the NFL,
but that feels like that's switching up now too. Kids
are staying in college for seven eight years and I'm like,
how does he still haveing eligibility?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Is he getting paid? I was, It's possible too, I
was making more money and cauds I make an NFL
and like I mean, and not everybody right, only if
few guys, right, you guys get paid more. But you
can make an argument though that you know, a guy
that's getting paid top dollar has to go to the NFL.
Or say you're a second round pick, you're gonna play
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for lead minimum, which you know, seven hundred and sixty
thousand dollars for the minimum versus in college you can
make a couple of mil you know what I mean?
Like it's Kevin Hart. Like now I can also argue that,
you know, once you get through the first four years
and you get to that second contract, you make more
in NFL than you can in college. And it's probably
better get to that that earning potential in NFL for
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longer than in college. But you can make an argument
though for either side, I.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Don't know if you can.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
If you're a first round are you making more in
the NFL than you ever make an nil? Even the
twelve you know, twelve thirteen, fourteen million dollar deals is
over a pro rated four to five years, you know,
so at the end of day you still making three
four mili versus if you are first round top ten,
you're making four to five. And then you get your
second contract. And now we're talking by exponentials.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
But the second round picks getting paid top dollars in college,
you know, I mean their two first round picks. You know,
so I get it though, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, like I've seen both sides.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I'm just like, all right, for the growth of the game,
I think that's what's being affected, because again, if you're
transferred every year, you sort of you sort of incur
like the fan favorites, you could that Lizy like loyalty
of all right, well I bleed blue and gold or
you bleed you know, orange green or whatever it is.
You know, we got guys on the team they're like,
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oh yeah, you know, you know, let's call it our
quarterbacks pitcher Rattler two years at Oklahoma, two years at
at UH at that University of South Carolina. I would
say USC. I was like, that's not a thing. There's
only one USC, and it's the University of Southern California,
and I won't accept anything else. But you know, he
goes over to University South Carolina. It's like so he
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sort of had to pivot and go. And I get that,
But there's other guys like you know that that go
to three or four schools.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Where's the loyalty there, like, where's the what like where
do you give back to? What do you like? What
do you rest your hat on exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You just you just gotta, I gotta, I gotta go
with You just triggered the thought because the PAC twelve
gets dismantled, right, it's no longer is this you know
in usc you know cal all you great schools that
were there. But it's funny to be because I feel
like all the teams that were in the PAC twelve
are the best teams in football right now, that all
of them. But I mean Oregon and you know, uh,
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I mean last year Washington Championship and you know, and lost,
But you know, I mean they were there, the PAC twelve,
but low key, you know, there was a couple of
years back. I guess you could argue they were very strong.
But for them to get dismantled as strong as they've been,
it's kind of crazy to me. But you know, new
beginnings maybe new beginnings, Mega conferences powerful, you know the
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twelve were.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Our school is gonna be playing each other every year now,
like where the West coast as it gets Northern California
Golden Bears, where we borderline, you know, Berkeley borderlines Oakland,
and San Francisco flies down to Carolina two times this year.
You know, Carolina and Miami in Florida, Miami. I'm like,
what do we what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Guys? That doesn't it doesn't make no sensory.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But beyond the business model, you know it just in
terms of loyalty, longevity. Bro, you're this is year seventeen
with three weeks left. How are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
How is a body feeling?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You know, I feel okay?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Hey, how do you start off laughing?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Because you know, you know how I feel like. You know,
you're a couple of years younger, but you know how
your body feel just a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
This this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I probably feel the best I've ever felt at this
part of the year that I have in a long time,
because you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's what I'm saying. I ain't never not had full
games worth of plays.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I've never not been a you know, an eighty to
ninety to one hundred of the game type player. So
now they're in this you know, whatever whatever you want
to call it for the Saints testing module, this experiment season. Uh,
you know there's there's one game I think I had
like ten reps, twelve reps. I think Oh, I said,
(08:20):
oh no, I think it's time. I said Okay, the Saints.
The Saints have turned their page and I might have
to turn my page on the Saints.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, I mean that's so heartbreaking because, like I mean,
when you talk about the Saints this era, you know,
I mean, Drew Brees and you are the two guys
I think about the most. You know, the air back.
But that's the previous era, this era, you know. I mean,
that's what I think about for my days playing football,
you know, And so that's it's kind of crazy, but
you know, I mean everything comes to an end, you know,
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that's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
The league will tell you exactly where you are. You know,
now you pit, now you pivot when things don't work
out that way. You need a run stopping defensive end. Hey,
and now we're back, you know you and now you're
back at forty something plays a game and it's like
and I'm just you just feel vindicated.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You're like, come on, man, this is what needs to
happen to stop the run and have some fun.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
As a player that's been in your shoes, and you know,
and you've played in one place longer than I've ever
played anywhere. But I had nine years in Arizona when
you know, I had a new beginning. A new beginning
sometimes gives you a bush of energy and new excitement
and you have a lot more success again. And you know,
then they kicked themselves in the butt for letting you go,
you know, and then you know, I went to Baltimore,
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and then you know, even in Atlanta last year, I
don't think about thous you know, as good as I was,
and even this year, you know, I went through free
agency for a long time, didn't really get a lot
of calls, and then you know, funds are heating up.
I had about four teams that were interested. Uh, you know,
but it's crazy the trade deadline. I have six teams
trying to trade for me. But you know, during the
free agency, I couldn't get a call.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You know, then they didn't want me. Now I'm hot,
you know, Look, you know what time it is.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
As the season progresses and like, all right, do I
still want to work on this experimental or do I
still want to develop?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Or do I want to know what's a surefire?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Like early in the season, it's always like, oh, I
think he could work out, this could look good. It
always looks nice and new when it's you know, when
it's new and shiny, but you're like, oh, this is
the model that has proven to work. This is this
is my old reliable and we know it works. I'd
rather know it works, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Because you know, I get it's a young man's game,
like the future. You know, you get a guy and
they develop and become a good player. Because at one
time we was rookies, you know, when the somebody had
to take a chance on us, say oh, hens I
was playing playing good ball and they had to give
us opportunity, and we sure we can ball. And there's
gonna be some guys that come around. There's a Michael Parsons,
you know, a top prophecy who's playing goodball for us.
There's a couple of guys that hit every every couple
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of years, you know, the guy's hit. But it is
crazy though, because like you know, I mean, you can
you can hope and wish you get one of them,
but you know what you got with us, you know, right,
we're all faithful. Baby, it's guarantee. You know now, I
get that. You know, I remember a couple of years
back out of GM pretty much tell me, like you
know that guy's fall of cliff when it turned thirty
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and I'm like, I hear what you're saying, you know,
and you're right, you know, that's the majority of the
time that does happen. But I have I haven't fought
off a cliff, and like, all I could go off
was what I know, my history. I work hard, I
have a body work. I have a team of buddywork
specialists to make sure I'm out there on the field available.
I've been available throughout my whole career. I know that
(11:31):
one day it's gonna come to an end. But like
I coulally back off my history. You know. You know
when I was thirty, you might have thought I was done.
I wasn't thirty one, same thing thirty two or thirty three,
thirty four, thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven. Now I'm
thirty eight, and I'm like, I mean, I get it.
I but the history in my thirties tell you that
I'm still that dude.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You know, fact these hey, these are factuals. And you
got them little ones out there going oh.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I'll go man, it's the
day off.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Man, Hey, I got I got four of my understanding.
That's why I'm trying. I try and get done right
around three when the kids come home. I'm trying to
be there for all that on the off day, so
you know, I don't go a couple of weeks of
oh where's dad?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
That's the I think the only thing more taxing than
than losing is like coming home and after you're losing,
the kids are like, all right, let's go play, let's
go play. Let's go play. And then and they hit
you hit you on an off day, like Dad, we
don't hang out enough. Maybe right after the game, even
though we lost, we still went to go eat as
a family. We still played before you went to sleep.
The off day, I'm still there, like, what do you mean?
(12:33):
We don't hang out enough? When off season comes, you
get bored of me. You're like, can you go to work?
But now we're in season short.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Term memory lately, babies just like the NFL where the
kids that don't care, they don't.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh the little babies and gyms are the same people.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
What have you done today? Not not not the last week? Today?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Oh it my level, man. I walked to the door, Bro,
My kids in my arms immediately, man, And it's a joy,
even when I'm sore, I'm hurting. I got get on
the floor. I gotta wrestle, man, we gotta, we gotta,
we gotta throw them up. So we walked to the door.
My kids want, they want all the smoke. But you know,
I see kyreey. Bryan said this. Actually, he was like,
I can't. I ain't gonna chat the game. So I'm
gonna go and bust my tail. I'm gonna make sure
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I ball. I'm not gonna cheat the game. The same
thing I get home my kids though, So you know,
if I got missed out of sleep, if I got
whatever it is, I'm I'm gonna make sure I show
up and bet it for my kids. And I try
to do the same thing. Man, my kids they get
hollered me. Uh, but then the game also, you know,
gets hallered me. So you know, one day I'm retired,
I'm gonna be you know, I got all the top
of the world, whatever I want. But right now, you
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gotta suck it up and get it done.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh that boy said one day, which means we're looking
at season eighteen. Don't don't get me started.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You und you're the man.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
To keep on going.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's that's not not what you're saying you said one
day I'm gonna to retire.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
He saying nothing it see you left it open.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, you one of my heroes, bro, because at thirty eight,
I will I will be hard pressed that Jesus and
I will have a real conversation.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Many you'd be surprised what you got aside, you know,
I mean, it's just a desire to want to keep
going if you want till you still be a dog.
You know, yeah, you still be a dog. Hey.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The way the way this season happened, when I was like,
I was like, yeah, I'm gonna get I'm gona take
me about fifteen you know, I might go after about
ten sackses here to go and then I ain't see
but three defensive end pass rush reps. In the middle
of the season, I said, wait a minute, said wait,
I'm more pissed now than I've ever been before.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So I let that fuel, that fuel fire me up,
Like you know, like.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Would you go inside and race and rush from inside
and three techniques.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Then I've been that's that's the pass rush of that
that I've sort of I don't even know if I
earned it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
They was throwing my way. Hey, hey, Cam here. Look
you look at more one on one three technique.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
No I'm not the tackle, hey bro, the tackle pushes
off the you got you got? You gotta now count
for slides. You don't have to count for slides when
you're a defensive end.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Oh man, it's so different.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's night and day and they're like, well, why aren't
you shining? Because I'm in pitch black darkness. I don't
know how to shine.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Open the door for you, man.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
You got to develop it at year fourteen? What the
hell's proven? What's proven is proven? It's not proven, it's unknown.
Guess where I'm at. I'm in the unknown in the abyss.
But anyway, but when you when you think about it,
like we talked about, you know, just a possibility. How
much does the outcome of the season play in the
whether you keep playing or not? Like you're at you're
(15:41):
at your here in Miami, You're you're where you're probably
always wanted to be back to at some point now
that you're here, Like, what is that?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
What is the leaf for you? Like, you know, if
record is.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
If we if we we think about it from like
we keep it at a hundred, you know, I'm going to
chase a ring, you know, and like it's kind of
hard because I'm thinking, like, oh man, you know, go
to Miami, great offense. You know, I know we've you know,
is my Dalon coach. I think we've a defense coordinator
by Delan coach of Baltimore. I know he's'ld be a
good defensive coordinator. Come out here, play good defense. With
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the office being as potent as it was, you know,
we'll go out here and we'll you know, have a shot,
you know, of a realistic shot. And you know, I
don't think anybody's at the season going to be like
it is, you know, I mean six and eight, you know,
we still got a shot, you know, like I think
we got like five percent six percent chance making the playoffs,
which we both know is highly unlikely, you know. I mean,
I'm just you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
You're not you're not eliminated, so you're still fighting.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Well yeah, of course, you know, but but you know,
we win last week, we're you know, forty fifty you know,
a lot better chance, you know, you know, but it
just is what it is. But I am playing this
game because I wanted to win the ring and so like,
I also want to be if I want to be effective,
I want to be one of the reasons we win.
To ring. I don't want to just write somebody's coat
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tails and go get a ring. I want to be
on the field making plays while we go and dominating
when the Super Bowl, and so you know that competitive
drive is there. Uh this though this year, you know,
you know, I do feel a little different, you know
what I mean. I've been in position make some plays
and I'm like, man, I just can't make these plays
like I used to, Like I beat a guy quick swim,
shoot a gap, and I'm in the backfield and I'm
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trying to see running back's feet and he you know,
running for like another three four yards. I'm like, man,
they used to be this used to be like you know,
like forced fumbles, like big time plays, and so that
like excuse me thinking about like cas still take over
a game because I don't want to just be a
guy out there. I want to be a guy that's
a difference maker. And so you know, it's something to
think about. You know. I go through my process and
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take my time and see how my body feels. But man,
it's hard to walk away, but it might be time.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Look, I saw I saw you a few weeks ago.
We was at the same bodywork guy. You know, like,
like how many when you sud got a team of bodywork?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What does that look like?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Like? You know?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Me, I got like a chiropractice here, and then I
got the chiropractor, chiropractor whatever he is out and out
in Davy, you know, and then that's that's about you.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I got a massuse's read it for me.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
He calls up a chiropractor, but it's not just a chiropractor.
That's part of what he does. That man do a
whole lot. Yeah, but he's new on the list though.
I mean I've worked with him in the past because
I Dwight Freendy introduce me to him. But he's new
on the list, Like I didn't work with him to
share consistently, you know. But you know the people on
my team from you know, I mean, I got man,
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I got three people I see today. I got another
person on Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Is that is that like cupping dry needling? Is that acupuncture?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah? Yeah, I do all of it. So I mean,
you know, pretty much I got a person that specializes
in every single thing. So I see about six people
a week, and some of them multiple times, and so
essentially I'm doing stuff every day, you know, multiple times
to day.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You know, I mean, are are you? Who are you?
Lebron James? You got you got?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
You're spending a million dollars on your body a year.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
She was like three forty three fifty something like that.
You know, this yeuld be a little less because you know,
just being a little closer to where some people are at.
But it's still gonna be on three, you know, And
I ain't making them. I mean, this year I played
for Peanuts this year.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know, it just may not be worth the squeeze.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
But you know, I mean I told myself though, like
you know, like I mean, if this is my last
who Rah and I thought we had a real shot,
you know, like it is what it is like, you know,
I'm still making a profit. I ain't, you know, I
ain't making a whole lot of money like I used to,
but I'm making I ain't paying to play either, so
it's good enough. But you know, going forward, though, I
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don't know if it could be like this again, you know,
I don't know, but I will say though, you know,
My team has been with me for quite a few years.
And the reason why I've had to sins late my
career is because I have a great group of people
that work on me consistently. So, you know, shout out
to all the people out there who I work with.
You know, I know they probably go see this, but
if they did, if you want, I appreciate you. I
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know I can't do this without you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Absolutely. The foundation is strong man. I mean, you say
you can't do it and do it again. Does that
mean you can't do this situation with the Dolphins or
we talk about like you can't do this role that you're.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
In, Oh Price, Price.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like, I don't know if I could do this. I
don't know if I can do this. Look, I don't
know if I can do this role this. At one point, Clai,
I saw myself. They had me slide into a nose
tackle like I was. We were in a three four
Russian situation and I was at the nose. I said,
I'm not supposed to be here.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I said, you would.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You wouldn't like that. You wouldn't ask for Key Jackson
to be here. You wouldn't ask John abrambody here. You
wouldn't ask. You know, I'm not say I'm high on
the list, but I think I'm top thirty all time
in the sack leaders.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I don't know if they'd ever asked. You know, a
guy like that's like asking Von Miller to go play nose.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Would he do it? Sure? But would you would you
expect him to be successful?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Like? Are you being put in a position for success?
That is the question. So we say you come back
next season, That's what I was asking.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I do think that know that you are unique in
your abilities and if you really wanted to do it,
you could. Now I will say that you're proven on
the edge that you that dude, you know you got
you got the most anybody I played like the people
I played, I played, you got the most, right, I mean, yeah,
I don't think anybody will. I guess Julie Peppers. But besides,
you know the older I say.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
J Pep, you you play with my you know, play
on the opposite.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, well hands you know, I might have crossed. I
don't know. He tired those seven, so I don't think
we even played same like I came in away. So no,
but but freeye Abraham and uh and Julius Peppers.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
The only ones I know that more than you. You know,
the guys that played my thigh. I guess you could.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Say Von Vaughan of course, and uh.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, oh yeah has more than.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You of course v Vaughan. Uh, Von is like one
twenty seven, seven and a half.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
What you got? Okay, my bad?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Right, we're right, we're rolling. We're rolling as.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I'm a little my little one or nine and a half.
You know, I can't really relate to what twenty that's
aid different. That's a different beast, you know. Man, I'm
trying to you know.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I'm trying to get to one thirty this year. Honestly,
I was, like I said, I'm in revision mode. I'm
in I'm the best shape I've ever been. I'm you know,
I'm normally playing two eighty five to two ninety, I'm
two seventy five and now and now my nose way,
I'm the lightest I've ever been. Anyways, So okay, I
will I will have to learn, bro. There's also there's
(22:39):
not much that you haven't accomplished in this in this
league at all. Let's talk about you know, where I
go for the Walter Payton Man of the Year, Like,
you know, where does that rank in.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Your career accomplishments? Because I mean, you okay, you know,
I'm up again. I'm up for it again.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And I'm like, I'm like the work that I do,
you know, the work that I see others do, I'm
never there for like, oh, look at what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
But this nod from the watch Paid Man of the.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Ear is it feels like like a heavy I almost
call it a burden. I'm like, now I feel like
I have to raise my raise what I'm doing. I'm like,
i feel like I'm not doing enough. When you look
out you see the class candles. You know, you look
at you see you know, whether it's Travis Kelcey or
you know, Tomorrow Davis, Jason Kelsey, It's like everybody is
always doing great work in their respective communities. For you,
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where what is that accompliment sort of lie in your
illustrious career of accomplishments.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Well, before I ask her that one, I'm gonna go,
I'm I'm gonna just because I've never did anything to
get award, right, we just want to help people, just
you know, just want to do good in the world,
you know, and we've been blessed with abundance, and so
we go out to this world and we try to
you know, make sure that you know our presences fell
and be helping our community and show all love you know, uh,
with the with the with the resources God blessed us
(23:55):
with uh you know, and so like, you know, I
feel like it's really cool that you know that there
are so many people in the NFL who do really
good things like that. And then almost you look around
so realizing, like Dann, these dudes we really be we
really be doing a whole bunch of dope stuff and
it's inspiring. It's like, man, you know, but it also
makes me almost have that pressure like that I gotta
do more, I gotta do better. Especially Award, I felt
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like so much pressure. Like I was like, man, I
gotta go out there and you know, and live up
to it, be worthy of it. And uh you know.
But then I realized too, it's like, man, just do
us in your heart and you'll always be right, you
know at the end of the day if you do
us in your heart and you try to inspire the
next generation and you want just to spread love in
this world. You know, it'll always be enough, and so
I have to remind myself, like you ain't gotta go
(24:40):
out there and be Superman. Just be yourself, you know.
But uh, you know when it comes to watch pay
Man a year, that's that's my favorite award I've won.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Really, you know how many times? How many times were
you nominated?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Uh so my third time being nominated is when I wanted.
This is my third time being nominated. All right, I'm
just I'm got good vibes. I mean, on your team?
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
It's uh, I think I saw this one.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
It was Ale Ingle, which is crazy because he told me,
you know that, you know, he was a rookie when
I got when I won the award, or maybe it
was after his rookie year or whatever. And uh, he
was after he was at the presentation and he was like, man,
you know that I inspired him to want to win
it and want to do more in the community. And
I was like, wow, you know, that's that's pretty crazy,
(25:24):
you know, But I'm glad that, you know, I want
to I want to be an expression, you know, and
so like I love that, you know, I love that
there are guys coming to me after games and see
the patch on my jersey, Like, man, I want to
get that one day. You know. I love that, you know,
because at the end of the day, I'll trying to
do good things that are worthy of that patch of
the Great Waterer Payton. You know, I think that, uh,
you know, the world would be a better place. And so,
(25:45):
you know, I mean, we all got George Park.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
But that's that's huge, right man, I mean major, major.
I mean it's I feel like it's just like that.
It's just a call. It's like not even to call
to action. It's like a challenge to do better. Oh
you're doing good. Yeah, well these other guys doing good.
You're like, damn, I gotta step my game up.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I thought I was. I thought I was serving my community. Okay.
I was like, I like what they're doing. Let me
see if I can incorporate.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Some of that.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
But uh, man, yeah, that is it's a huge honor
even to be nominated. So I can imagine what it
feels like, you know, living living that life.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Uh you're worthy, though, but brother, you are worthy. You've
been worthy in the past, and you were worthy now
and I hope you do with it. You know, we'll
see you know, it all comes it comes down to
it though, But you I'll rooting for you, bro. I
think you deserve it.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I appreciate that, Bro, I appreciate it a lot, I'll say,
pivoting towards you know. We play Green Bay in Green
Bay on Monday Night football. I ain't I'm not getting
stalled out.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I hate the cold like you. I'm I don't even
try and hide how much I hate the cold. It's
seventy three degrees today, and I got this thick ass
sweater on, like I'm not. I'm not happy unless I'm hot,
you know. But uh, you guys got you guys got
to finish out the season.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
You know what you got left?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
How many cold games you got left too?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It's to be freezing. We have a Sunday Night in Cleveland,
went up in two weeks and then of the Jets,
you know, and the night game is always like you
know the money that you know. We just played Thanksgiving
against Green Bay in Green Bay, and boy it was cold.
It was cold.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Cold, it looked cold.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
But but I mean like you know, like like over
the years, you learned on the tricks. You know, you
ain't learn the tricks.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I went had one. I've had one cold game in
my life. Clease please school me.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I put on road on, bro, I put on that
warm skin or whatever. That didn't do a darn thing.
We was in Cleveland. That wind ripped through my soul.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I was like, I'm a warrior, I'm a man.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I walked out that thing and it whipped through my
clothes and it shot through my back.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
And I.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Am not a man. I am a boy. I deserve
chocolate and cot cocoa. I said, I don't like this, bro.
Nick Chubb is a great dude. I remember I tackled
him and I pressed off of his helmet, like as
he hit the ground. I was like, I was so
mad that I was out there. I like, pres his
head down and he's nothing but a good dude. I
like mush is head into the snow.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Was like, because I doubt.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I was pointed at to Sean.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Watson pre Snapple, like you know we've we've texted before whatever.
I was trying to get him to the Saints some
years back, and I'm pointing out. I was like, you
told me this was legendary.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
This is legendary. It's stupid.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I'm the most I'm like, I'm just I'm trash talking
and it's not making any sense. I'm like, you're dumb
for sign a year. You don't even like real football.
You're win those fats sloppingly. I can't play football, so
I stow it in the snow because this is where
I belong.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Like not making any sense.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
The young know how good they got it, though, because
they're building the domes and they're building domans in Chicago,
they're building the doman Cleveland. They're uh, you know, they're.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
As they should.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Now green Bay might be one if they'll be green Bay.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, Buffalo, like you know, Buffalo thrives off of Yeah.
I don't have tickets to the game, but I drove
up to the stadium to health shovel. Excuse you, what, sir,
what what are you doing? Snow? And if you're shoveling
in the in the stadium, it doesn't need to be there.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
We played Cleveland again two years ago, three years ago,
whatever it was. Two years ago, my first snow game,
cold game. It was negative twenty something with the windshield
and we were sitting there and the mid game they
were like, hey, everybody in the upper bowl, come down
to the lower lower bowl for heat purposes or something
like that. I was like, excuse you what I was say? No,
I said, I was like, these crazy middle westerners know
(29:26):
they shouldn't be here, but for you guys to finish
out Jersey, you know, the Jersey Jets, Jersey Giants. I'm
not sure why this is a New York situation, but
the Jersey Jets may or may not be cold, but yeah,
you got clean.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
It could be cold. You never know. So so if
anything under forty is cold to me right now, that's
level was because you get to like twenty, it's different
than forty forties. You can handle, but twenty it's a
little different. Beasts, it go to the teams. You know,
we're in trouble below the teas. You know, like, hey man,
you know you said questions you really like how much
you really football?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
How much you really love it? Why should I be
questioning this? I should be saying, your best eleven versus
my best eleven. I want to see you line up
versus me lining up. I want to see your best
athletes versus my best. Last league Whenniga's cold, bro, everybody's like,
oh yeah, this is football. Well yeah, back in the
seventies when everybody was running a four nine or higher
and you thought somebody was fast at a four or
(30:22):
five when you got and that was all hand time
because they didn't have electronic No, we're in.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
A better way and we know what works.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
No, I literally, I literally went to college at University
of Miami over Michigan because you grew up in Arizona,
so you don't really you didn't get the spirit. I
played football in the co weather in Colorado without heaters,
on the sideline, without hand warmers because we couldn't afford them. No,
no jackets because they adn't have jackets.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
You're six nine usually that would have made me a hooper.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
And I was cold in basketball too, But football my heart.
But I but I ain't go lie though. My last
college game it was it was a blizzard and we
went outside and practice in the blizzard came. My coaches said,
nobody else is practicing. We're always we will always be
out there. We don't got to answer to everybody, and
we all got sick. Everybody had the flu. He played,
the game got whipped, and the playoffs got murdered by
tea that should they should not beat this because everybody
(31:13):
was sick and I realized it and I was like, yeah, yeah,
I mean, I'm tough. I can't do anything, but you know,
I prefer to playing this one weather. If I can
one hundred.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Per bones break, I don't blink. Oh over the bone shatters.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh well, I finished the game one eyed, ribs ribs
break cracked.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm like, hey, that's part of the game. I can't breathe.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I work.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I work this hat on the sidelines, fingers snap, whatever
it is, Hey, club it up. We'll be fine, you know,
but this cold, sir, sir, so, I'm a warrior ninety
nine percent of the time. As long as that one
percent is, as long as it's not sixty five degrees
and below, I won't complain. The moment is sixty five
percent sixty five degrees outside, I'm like, what are we doing?
(31:54):
Why are we out here? We should not be out here?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Oh anything about forty I'm good. Once he's trouble.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Sixty five sixty five. I got the jacket.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
I got the last away game I had. Hey, I
had the jacket on and my teammates. Luckily, my teammates
accept me for who I am. Now, like you know
the we used to play Caroline at the end of
the year, and I have I'll be the only one
with the jacket on. And my team is like Jill
Saw I said, crazy, crazy, thirteen degrees more and guess
(32:24):
what water turns the ice.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I'm I don't need that. I don't need that. I'm true, true,
I'm simply.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Saying, but all right, it's so out of the out
of the teams that you've played with, and you know
you've now played with this is.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
The fifteen fifteen.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Oh, do you have a favorite location to have been
played at? Now you've seen, you've seen all stadiums now
from inside and out home away. What's the loudest stadium
that you've you've been a part.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Of the loudest stadium. Oo, loudest kind of tough, because
like the circumstances is matter right circus.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
That's why I left it out there.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
In the regular season. It was the Seattlehawks because I mean,
and we had the rifle. We you know, during these
times when when whenever super Bowl worthy, Richard Sherman all
the boys, Marshall Lynch said, it wasn't bawling that say
used to go rock. He used to rock plus he
used to pump that little and put the little crowd
noise in until they they said to doing music. They
do crowd noise, and they cut it off with the
(33:19):
specially cut off. Letus we know they really cut it off. Uh,
you know, so it'll be loud. But in the playoffs,
it was New Orleans. In the playoffs, the.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Bird teams they always always seem to add a little
bit more noise. And we won't we won't say which
bird teams, but you know this is Seattle falcons.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And I'm just saying it just seems like, I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
But you weren't there yet. But that year in two
thousand and nine, when yeah, when you go to the
Super Bowl, man, that that playoff game I played, but
we scored the very first player the game, tell the
hot Tower scores an eighty yard touchdown, you know, to
the house. We thought we would be the breaks off here.
We went to Super four. We come back. Now, we
(34:01):
thought the breaksoff yard man, boy, that was about that
was bouty Gate too, you know, that was the bounty
gate situation too.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Was a Saints nation.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
We get loud and then they even they bring generations
worth to cheer with them. My great great granddaddy took
me to this game, and now I've taken my great kids,
grandkids to the game, and we're gonna Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, I found out. I found out that week. We
got found out. My mama's a six fan, like old
old mama. I know you, my whole life, my whole life.
I know you. You didn't come. You didn't want to
come to no high school games because it's too cold outside,
which I understand, and I get it. It was cold,
it's Conorado. I understand, mama, But you know, and so
I didn't even know she liked football. Now we're playing
(34:45):
the Saints and she's like, that's my team. She's from
Louisiana though, So I get it. She's from Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Where's the connection?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
She just saw black and golden, was like, damn, that
is a beautiful color. You know, Like, Okay, she's from
She's from Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I love that. I was speaking of, speaking of the teams.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Out of those teams, how would you assess to, you know,
this season, previous season, whatever, How would you assess to
as a quarterback when healthy?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
It looks like you be spending that thing.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, yeah, I like you a lot right too. Is
a great leader, a natural board leader like those what
to say, and uh you know has that confidence and swagger.
Uh you know, uh fun gotta be in the locker
room around too, like he just you know, he can
shoot it. He can he can shoot it. You know,
hang out just bs and like have a good time,
you know, and like you know, all the other teams
have been a part of you know, I think Lamar
(35:31):
was like it was like that to a little bit,
you know. Uh, but besides you know them two you know,
I mean your quarterbacks kind of like you know, they
have like a bubble around it. You know, they straight
you know, we hang but it's a little different. You know,
we don't really you know, but uh you know, yeah
to a cool you know, to a real cool and
like you know, you want to see you guys, you
(35:51):
just want to see when now you know, going on
IR this year with the concussion stuff, you know, like
we talked a lot during that time and you know,
and I know people you know worried about him, you know,
but he's a competitor, He's a warrior, you know, and
you know those you know those I mean, he has
to be smarter and don't take not necessary hits, and like,
you know, I mean, you know, even if you lose
(36:12):
a game, you know, we find a long battle here
my brothers, So he can't be taking undessary hits. But uh,
you know, I know he's a competitor and the warrior,
and he wanted to be out there. And I think
this season really hurt us, put in my art because
he was probably ready to go, you know after two weeks.
You know, we can half two weeks, you know, but
of course it is what it is. You know, they
put them.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
He took some major he took that major hit to
the top of the dome. Yeah them, look them concussions
are nothing to play with, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
But I mean, like you know, you just said you
played through overal bone fracture and.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
We are warriors. I don't see I don't see quarterbacks
as warriors. I see quarterbacks a really really good people.
They live really really good lives. They only can get
on Sundays. I'm like, like, hey, live your good life.
You don't notice life, you know, like they don't through
you know, we we we stand ovations first brains, Like
that's the closest thing to a basketball players we have.
(37:05):
You're like, oh, man, like he's got a sprain risk
and he's fighting through. Yeah, meanwhile, your de tackle has
broken three bones in his hand. He's he's like, he's
he's working on a herniated disc in his back. He's
got a level one hamstring and probably.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
A little gratitude and nobody knows. Now, just say something like, oh,
you know, he's looking a little slower than he did
last week.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
He's fool bar right now, like he is. The fact
that he's out here is through the grace of God alone.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
But I will say though, the quarterback vision. You got
to put that in your mind, like that, they are
the they are the halves. They're the halves, and we
have nots, and we gotta go take what they got,
you know, because they got they got the life easy
and good, the high life.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
And I want it and I want it and I
want it and I literally hit him and I look
at them like I want to hit you, and again
like I and I hate that I can't hit you anywhere.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I have to know where to hit you. Now I
want to. I don't want to hurt you, but I
want to harm you.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You know, like I want I want you to.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I want you to know what I feel daily, because
you don't feel anything unless a Sunday high processing level.
They've got to take all the whole field and not
get there. Yeah, all those things they got to think about.
But in terms of physical prowess, they don't have that.
They live free literal we.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Make the money we make. I get it, you know,
like selling Jersey, you want to live. But I like
killing you. I want I want to, I want to
on you. I love it because like the last life
eight nine years, you can't really touch them no more.
May I think I saw the past, the penalties, and
and I've been trying not even to touch them, you.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Know, but hit him, hit them and throw the hands.
You're like, pom no, no, no, no, that was good, right,
that was good. I didn't really hit that hard. I swear,
I hate you.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Sorry, I get free. That's that's a good job. I'm
like met up all the way. That's a good job.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I was trying not to land on him, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
But but but I was in the era where back
in the day where you can really demolished quarterbacks. And
I try to remind I try to tell these young
guys about the error. Like, go back and watch some clips.
You know, you know I sup plex Brett Farv one time.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Right, you put the big the big hey, the big declete,
and all they heard was you played it against great
bay bread Fark.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
We play against Brett Favre. But I sup plex Bret Farv,
and like you know, I did get a fine. I
did get a fine for that. Though it's not because
he could plain. But I used to be able to
kill quarterbacks. You shill kill him, and I missed those days. Man,
I miss him.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
You're always going to but you know, this is the
day and age we live in. We're warriors that have
you know, thrived and seen a lot. You know, you've
got a couple of years on me. So like I
just imagine, you know, you came in two thousand and eight.
I came in two thousand eleven.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Let me play your mind real quick with something. Bruce Smith, Yeah,
played ninth nineteen seasons in the NFL. Yeah, nineteen seasons.
His combined two hundred sacks, his combined revenue and combine
hearnings in the NFL seventy million dollars.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
But that was also in like the seventies eighties, nineties, eighties,
you know when isn't too far from the seventies.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
He played in two thousand. I think he played two
thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
He retired, retired, He played ninety season. He spans, he
spans decades. He ain't that a whole okay yo, he
hate that right. Anybody, he probably made He probably made
most of his money at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
True, This is true.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
This is true right after the nineties.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
At the nineties when they fought back and had the
lockout and did everything they're supposed to do to help
us get paid.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, but it's just crazy to me because you know,
guys getting you know, seventy mill signing bonuses. Now you
know it's crazy to me. Nineteen seasons, seventy million dollars,
you know, you know, my man, uh you nine be
mad at BK.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
You know, big bag bank, break break the bank.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Gosh, heinz Allen, big bag. These little brothers get paid,
and I'm like, bro this off the backs of the
guys that came before you. But it's also because we
can't hit quarterbacks no more so. I know you want
to your quarterbacks, but you.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Know the permission before you lay him down now, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Tackle him nicely. Catch that big bag you're getting.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Be a true East Coaster. Talk to me, nice, talk
to me. Hey, tackle them nice, tackle them nice, tackle
them nice. But that's just a transition to game.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Anyways, I'm gonna wrap this up so you can get
on and you know, hang out with the kids and
the family. I appreciate you tapping in, Big Bro. It's
always gonna be love.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
You know, maybe you do play another year, Maybe I
play another three years.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
You know, we'll see what happens. That's that's for another
podcast episode. This episode is over. I appreciate you tuning
in with Off the Edge, your host, Cam Jordan's and
my big bro, my dog, Clais Campbell Peace
All right, welcome on into Off the Edge the podcast
with me your host Cam Jordan. I'm over here sitting
rather warm in New Orleans, where may be cold in
some parts of the world, and I have to go
visit that Midwest life this Monday, playing stupid Green Bay.
And I only say stupid because it's stupid cold out there.
But that's not what I'm here to talk about. I'll
wrap that up at the end of the session. I'm
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wearing my col scarf because it's about the House of Pain,
you know, which the house is where our women's and
men's basketball teams play play over at Cal And that's
just you know, my school pride showing out.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Speaking of school pride. A man who is.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Finishing his career where he started his college career. Kalayus
Campbell one hundred SAT Kalais Campbell, six times Pro Bowl,
Kalais Campbell twenty tens, All decade NFL defensive end. Kalays Campbell,
the man, the MyD the big the big bro, the
man who again started at the you of Miami, probably
at the tail end of what was the U and
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now finishing in Miami. You know, Dolphins, how you all,
Big Dog.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm great, man, I ain't gonna watch you. I think
we was back this year. Man. I think we was
gonna uh, we was going win it all this season,
and I was disappointed in enough out of the playoffs,
but we lost the big game. So we almost lost
the cow which is crazy. Be the breaks off yard when.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I tell you, when I tell you, I had the
highest host for Cal football, and I was like, I said,
hell yeah, I said, we're starting off strong, but we've
never been able to travel well. Like if we if
you would have came to us, would have loved it.
Shut the doors. We can't travel down the street, you know.
So we're bo eligible. We'll take it this year. That's
a stepping stone. But yeah, it's it's not pretty for
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you guys. You guys. Kim Ward looked like he was
gonna be the Heisman, you know, quarterback trophy holder, lead
him to greatness, and then things happen.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Still electric, Yeah, there's a little more parody of football
now that in I l because now the guy who's
the seventh eighth best player on like one of those
more career premier teams, he gonna go get paid like
the best player, you know, a smaller schools, and the
small schools can pay money. They got the money to compete.
So now it's gonna be marked the NFL where you know,
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any team could any team, right, you take the you know,
the worst team in football play it's the best team
in football in NFL, and it's gonna be a matter
that team. I'll come with it that you lose.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
How do you feel about this nil world? Like I'm
good with the kids getting paid. I would say I'm
phenomenal with the kids getting paid. It's the ability to
transfer every year like it like what you just said
free agency, Like all right, transfer once?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Transfer twiser, You's got to be a penalty, Like come on,
how many free cards can you get?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I mean? But honestly, though, if you if you think
about it from a business standpoint, I would enter the
trust portal every year because at the end of the day,
that's why I figure out what my value is. It's like,
if you can be a free agent every season, after
every NFL season, I get to be a free agent
and I can see what my value is after any contract,
you'd be like, you know what, last year that's paying
me fifteen million. You know this year, let me go
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see what they want to pay me this year. Mike
might get fifteen, make get twenty. You know, it's like Mike,
Mike get ten.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Stay your ass home.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
True, true, true, But if you go out there and
ball and you have a big gear, like why not
you know, I mean, so I get it, but it
does suck because college is supposed to be you know,
it was supposed to be you know, the amateur like
we just love ball playing for the level of the game.
And now you made it. Its many business.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It's a business. It's a business. Now we're making business decisions.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
My dad said, my mom said, you know, I feel
like I need to get paid X.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Okay, we get it. You good? Right now?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
The goal is thought the goal was always the NFL,
but that feels like that's switching up now too. Kids
are staying in college for seven eight years and I'm like,
how does he still haveing eligibility?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Is he getting paid? I was, It's possible too, I
was making more money and cauds I make an NFL
and like I mean, and not everybody right, only if
few guys, right, you guys get paid more. But you
can make an argument though that you know, a guy
that's getting paid top dollar has to go to the NFL.
Or say you're a second round pick, you're gonna play
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for lead minimum, which you know, seven hundred and sixty
thousand dollars for the minimum versus in college you can
make a couple of mil you know what I mean?
Like it's Kevin Hart. Like now I can also argue that,
you know, once you get through the first four years
and you get to that second contract, you make more
in NFL than you can in college. And it's probably
better get to that that earning potential in NFL for
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longer than in college. But you can make an argument
though for either side, I.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Don't know if you can.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
If you're a first round are you making more in
the NFL than you ever make an nil? Even the
twelve you know, twelve thirteen, fourteen million dollar deals is
over a pro rated four to five years, you know,
so at the end of day you still making three
four mili versus if you are first round top ten,
you're making four to five. And then you get your
second contract. And now we're talking by exponentials.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
But the second round picks getting paid top dollars in college,
you know, I mean their two first round picks. You know,
so I get it though, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, like I've seen both sides.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I'm just like, all right, for the growth of the game,
I think that's what's being affected, because again, if you're
transferred every year, you sort of you sort of incur
like the fan favorites, you could that Lizy like loyalty
of all right, well I bleed blue and gold or
you bleed you know, orange green or whatever it is.
You know, we got guys on the team they're like,
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oh yeah, you know, you know, let's call it our
quarterbacks pitcher Rattler two years at Oklahoma, two years at
at UH at that University of South Carolina. I would
say USC. I was like, that's not a thing. There's
only one USC, and it's the University of Southern California,
and I won't accept anything else. But you know, he
goes over to University South Carolina. It's like so he
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sort of had to pivot and go. And I get that,
But there's other guys like you know that that go
to three or four schools.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Where's the loyalty there, like, where's the what like where
do you give back to? What do you like? What
do you rest your hat on exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You just you just gotta, I gotta, I gotta go
with You just triggered the thought because the PAC twelve
gets dismantled, right, it's no longer is this you know
in usc you know cal all you great schools that
were there. But it's funny to be because I feel
like all the teams that were in the PAC twelve
are the best teams in football right now, that all
of them. But I mean Oregon and you know, uh,
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I mean last year Washington Championship and you know, and lost,
But you know, I mean they were there, the PAC twelve,
but low key, you know, there was a couple of
years back. I guess you could argue they were very strong.
But for them to get dismantled as strong as they've been,
it's kind of crazy to me. But you know, new
beginnings maybe new beginnings, Mega conferences powerful, you know the
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twelve were.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Our school is gonna be playing each other every year now,
like where the West coast as it gets Northern California
Golden Bears, where we borderline, you know, Berkeley borderlines Oakland,
and San Francisco flies down to Carolina two times this year.
You know, Carolina and Miami in Florida, Miami. I'm like,
what do we what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Guys? That doesn't it doesn't make no sensory.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But beyond the business model, you know it just in
terms of loyalty, longevity. Bro, you're this is year seventeen
with three weeks left. How are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
How is a body feeling?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You know, I feel okay?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Hey, how do you start off laughing?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Because you know, you know how I feel like. You know,
you're a couple of years younger, but you know how
your body feel just a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
This this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I probably feel the best I've ever felt at this
part of the year that I have in a long time,
because you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's what I'm saying. I ain't never not had full
games worth of plays.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I've never not been a you know, an eighty to
ninety to one hundred of the game type player. So
now they're in this you know, whatever whatever you want
to call it for the Saints testing module, this experiment season. Uh,
you know there's there's one game I think I had
like ten reps, twelve reps. I think Oh, I said,
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oh no, I think it's time. I said Okay, the Saints.
The Saints have turned their page and I might have
to turn my page on the Saints.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, I mean that's so heartbreaking because, like I mean,
when you talk about the Saints this era, you know,
I mean, Drew Brees and you are the two guys
I think about the most. You know, the air back.
But that's the previous era, this era, you know. I mean,
that's what I think about for my days playing football,
you know, And so that's it's kind of crazy, but
you know, I mean everything comes to an end, you know,
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that's how it goes.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
The league will tell you exactly where you are. You know,
now you pit, now you pivot when things don't work
out that way. You need a run stopping defensive end. Hey,
and now we're back, you know you and now you're
back at forty something plays a game and it's like
and I'm just you just feel vindicated.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You're like, come on, man, this is what needs to
happen to stop the run and have some fun.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
As a player that's been in your shoes, and you know,
and you've played in one place longer than I've ever
played anywhere. But I had nine years in Arizona when
you know, I had a new beginning. A new beginning
sometimes gives you a bush of energy and new excitement
and you have a lot more success again. And you know,
then they kicked themselves in the butt for letting you go,
you know, and then you know, I went to Baltimore,
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and then you know, even in Atlanta last year, I
don't think about thous you know, as good as I was,
and even this year, you know, I went through free
agency for a long time, didn't really get a lot
of calls, and then you know, funds are heating up.
I had about four teams that were interested. Uh, you know,
but it's crazy the trade deadline. I have six teams
trying to trade for me. But you know, during the
free agency, I couldn't get a call.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You know, then they didn't want me. Now I'm hot,
you know, Look, you know what time it is.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
As the season progresses and like, all right, do I
still want to work on this experimental or do I
still want to develop?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Or do I want to know what's a surefire?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Like early in the season, it's always like, oh, I
think he could work out, this could look good. It
always looks nice and new when it's you know, when
it's new and shiny, but you're like, oh, this is
the model that has proven to work. This is this
is my old reliable and we know it works. I'd
rather know it works, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Because you know, I get it's a young man's game,
like the future. You know, you get a guy and
they develop and become a good player. Because at one
time we was rookies, you know, when the somebody had
to take a chance on us, say oh, hens I
was playing playing good ball and they had to give
us opportunity, and we sure we can ball. And there's
gonna be some guys that come around. There's a Michael Parsons,
you know, a top prophecy who's playing goodball for us.
There's a couple of guys that hit every every couple
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of years, you know, the guy's hit. But it is
crazy though, because like you know, I mean, you can
you can hope and wish you get one of them,
but you know what you got with us, you know, right,
we're all faithful. Baby, it's guarantee. You know now, I
get that. You know, I remember a couple of years
back out of GM pretty much tell me, like you
know that guy's fall of cliff when it turned thirty
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and I'm like, I hear what you're saying, you know,
and you're right, you know, that's the majority of the
time that does happen. But I have I haven't fought
off a cliff, and like, all I could go off
was what I know, my history. I work hard, I
have a body work. I have a team of buddywork
specialists to make sure I'm out there on the field available.
I've been available throughout my whole career. I know that
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one day it's gonna come to an end. But like
I coulally back off my history. You know. You know
when I was thirty, you might have thought I was done.
I wasn't thirty one, same thing thirty two or thirty three,
thirty four, thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven. Now I'm
thirty eight, and I'm like, I mean, I get it.
I but the history in my thirties tell you that
I'm still that dude.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You know, fact these hey, these are factuals. And you
got them little ones out there going oh.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I'll go man, it's the
day off.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Man, Hey, I got I got four of my understanding.
That's why I'm trying. I try and get done right
around three when the kids come home. I'm trying to
be there for all that on the off day, so
you know, I don't go a couple of weeks of
oh where's dad?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
That's the I think the only thing more taxing than
than losing is like coming home and after you're losing,
the kids are like, all right, let's go play, let's
go play. Let's go play. And then and they hit
you hit you on an off day, like Dad, we
don't hang out enough. Maybe right after the game, even
though we lost, we still went to go eat as
a family. We still played before you went to sleep.
The off day, I'm still there, like, what do you mean?
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We don't hang out enough? When off season comes, you
get bored of me. You're like, can you go to work?
But now we're in season short.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Term memory lately, babies just like the NFL where the
kids that don't care, they don't.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh the little babies and gyms are the same people.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
What have you done today? Not not not the last week? Today?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Oh it my level, man. I walked to the door, Bro,
My kids in my arms immediately, man, And it's a joy,
even when I'm sore, I'm hurting. I got get on
the floor. I gotta wrestle, man, we gotta, we gotta,
we gotta throw them up. So we walked to the door.
My kids want, they want all the smoke. But you know,
I see kyreey. Bryan said this. Actually, he was like,
I can't. I ain't gonna chat the game. So I'm
gonna go and bust my tail. I'm gonna make sure
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I ball. I'm not gonna cheat the game. The same
thing I get home my kids though, So you know,
if I got missed out of sleep, if I got
whatever it is, I'm I'm gonna make sure I show
up and bet it for my kids. And I try
to do the same thing. Man, my kids they get
hollered me. Uh, but then the game also, you know,
gets hallered me. So you know, one day I'm retired,
I'm gonna be you know, I got all the top
of the world, whatever I want. But right now, you
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gotta suck it up and get it done.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh that boy said one day, which means we're looking
at season eighteen. Don't don't get me started.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You und you're the man.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
To keep on going.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's that's not not what you're saying you said one
day I'm gonna to retire.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
He saying nothing it see you left it open.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, you one of my heroes, bro, because at thirty eight,
I will I will be hard pressed that Jesus and
I will have a real conversation.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Many you'd be surprised what you got aside, you know,
I mean, it's just a desire to want to keep
going if you want till you still be a dog.
You know, yeah, you still be a dog. Hey.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The way the way this season happened, when I was like,
I was like, yeah, I'm gonna get I'm gona take
me about fifteen you know, I might go after about
ten sackses here to go and then I ain't see
but three defensive end pass rush reps. In the middle
of the season, I said, wait a minute, said wait,
I'm more pissed now than I've ever been before.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So I let that fuel, that fuel fire me up,
Like you know, like.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Would you go inside and race and rush from inside
and three techniques.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Then I've been that's that's the pass rush of that
that I've sort of I don't even know if I
earned it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
They was throwing my way. Hey, hey, Cam here. Look
you look at more one on one three technique.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
No I'm not the tackle, hey bro, the tackle pushes
off the you got you got? You gotta now count
for slides. You don't have to count for slides when
you're a defensive end.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Oh man, it's so different.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's night and day and they're like, well, why aren't
you shining? Because I'm in pitch black darkness. I don't
know how to shine.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Open the door for you, man.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
You got to develop it at year fourteen? What the
hell's proven? What's proven is proven? It's not proven, it's unknown.
Guess where I'm at. I'm in the unknown in the abyss.
But anyway, but when you when you think about it,
like we talked about, you know, just a possibility. How
much does the outcome of the season play in the
whether you keep playing or not? Like you're at you're
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at your here in Miami, You're you're where you're probably
always wanted to be back to at some point now
that you're here, Like, what is that?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
What is the leaf for you? Like, you know, if
record is.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
If we if we we think about it from like
we keep it at a hundred, you know, I'm going to
chase a ring, you know, and like it's kind of
hard because I'm thinking, like, oh man, you know, go
to Miami, great offense. You know, I know we've you know,
is my Dalon coach. I think we've a defense coordinator
by Delan coach of Baltimore. I know he's'ld be a
good defensive coordinator. Come out here, play good defense. With
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the office being as potent as it was, you know,
we'll go out here and we'll you know, have a shot,
you know, of a realistic shot. And you know, I
don't think anybody's at the season going to be like
it is, you know, I mean six and eight, you know,
we still got a shot, you know, like I think
we got like five percent six percent chance making the playoffs,
which we both know is highly unlikely, you know. I mean,
I'm just you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
You're not you're not eliminated, so you're still fighting.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Well yeah, of course, you know, but but you know,
we win last week, we're you know, forty fifty you know,
a lot better chance, you know, you know, but it
just is what it is. But I am playing this
game because I wanted to win the ring and so like,
I also want to be if I want to be effective,
I want to be one of the reasons we win.
To ring. I don't want to just write somebody's coat
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tails and go get a ring. I want to be
on the field making plays while we go and dominating
when the Super Bowl, and so you know that competitive
drive is there. Uh this though this year, you know,
you know, I do feel a little different, you know
what I mean. I've been in position make some plays
and I'm like, man, I just can't make these plays
like I used to, Like I beat a guy quick swim,
shoot a gap, and I'm in the backfield and I'm
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trying to see running back's feet and he you know,
running for like another three four yards. I'm like, man,
they used to be this used to be like you know,
like forced fumbles, like big time plays, and so that
like excuse me thinking about like cas still take over
a game because I don't want to just be a
guy out there. I want to be a guy that's
a difference maker. And so you know, it's something to
think about. You know. I go through my process and
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take my time and see how my body feels. But man,
it's hard to walk away, but it might be time.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Look, I saw I saw you a few weeks ago.
We was at the same bodywork guy. You know, like,
like how many when you sud got a team of bodywork?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What does that look like?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Like? You know?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Me, I got like a chiropractice here, and then I
got the chiropractor, chiropractor whatever he is out and out
in Davy, you know, and then that's that's about you.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I got a massuse's read it for me.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
He calls up a chiropractor, but it's not just a chiropractor.
That's part of what he does. That man do a
whole lot. Yeah, but he's new on the list though.
I mean I've worked with him in the past because
I Dwight Freendy introduce me to him. But he's new
on the list, Like I didn't work with him to
share consistently, you know. But you know the people on
my team from you know, I mean, I got man,
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I got three people I see today. I got another
person on Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Is that is that like cupping dry needling? Is that acupuncture?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah? Yeah, I do all of it. So I mean,
you know, pretty much I got a person that specializes
in every single thing. So I see about six people
a week, and some of them multiple times, and so
essentially I'm doing stuff every day, you know, multiple times
to day.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
You know, I mean, are are you? Who are you?
Lebron James? You got you got?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
You're spending a million dollars on your body a year.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
She was like three forty three fifty something like that.
You know, this yeuld be a little less because you know,
just being a little closer to where some people are at.
But it's still gonna be on three, you know, And
I ain't making them. I mean, this year I played
for Peanuts this year.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know, it just may not be worth the squeeze.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
But you know, I mean I told myself though, like
you know, like I mean, if this is my last
who Rah and I thought we had a real shot,
you know, like it is what it is like, you know,
I'm still making a profit. I ain't, you know, I
ain't making a whole lot of money like I used to,
but I'm making I ain't paying to play either, so
it's good enough. But you know, going forward, though, I
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don't know if it could be like this again, you know,
I don't know, but I will say though, you know,
My team has been with me for quite a few years.
And the reason why I've had to sins late my
career is because I have a great group of people
that work on me consistently. So, you know, shout out
to all the people out there who I work with.
You know, I know they probably go see this, but
if they did, if you want, I appreciate you. I
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know I can't do this without you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Absolutely. The foundation is strong man. I mean, you say
you can't do it and do it again. Does that
mean you can't do this situation with the Dolphins or
we talk about like you can't do this role that you're.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
In, Oh Price, Price.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like, I don't know if I could do this. I
don't know if I can do this. Look, I don't
know if I can do this role this. At one point, Clai,
I saw myself. They had me slide into a nose
tackle like I was. We were in a three four
Russian situation and I was at the nose. I said,
I'm not supposed to be here.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I said, you would.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You wouldn't like that. You wouldn't ask for Key Jackson
to be here. You wouldn't ask John abrambody here. You
wouldn't ask. You know, I'm not say I'm high on
the list, but I think I'm top thirty all time
in the sack leaders.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I don't know if they'd ever asked. You know, a
guy like that's like asking Von Miller to go play nose.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Would he do it? Sure? But would you would you
expect him to be successful?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Like? Are you being put in a position for success?
That is the question. So we say you come back
next season, That's what I was asking.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I do think that know that you are unique in
your abilities and if you really wanted to do it,
you could. Now I will say that you're proven on
the edge that you that dude, you know you got
you got the most anybody I played like the people
I played, I played, you got the most, right, I mean, yeah,
I don't think anybody will. I guess Julie Peppers. But besides,
you know the older I say.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
J Pep, you you play with my you know, play
on the opposite.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, well hands you know, I might have crossed. I
don't know. He tired those seven, so I don't think
we even played same like I came in away. So no,
but but freeye Abraham and uh and Julius Peppers.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
The only ones I know that more than you. You know,
the guys that played my thigh. I guess you could.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Say Von Vaughan of course, and uh.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, oh yeah has more than.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You of course v Vaughan. Uh, Von is like one
twenty seven, seven and a half.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
What you got? Okay, my bad?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Right, we're right, we're rolling. We're rolling as.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I'm a little my little one or nine and a half.
You know, I can't really relate to what twenty that's
aid different. That's a different beast, you know. Man, I'm
trying to you know.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I'm trying to get to one thirty this year. Honestly,
I was, like I said, I'm in revision mode. I'm
in I'm the best shape I've ever been. I'm you know,
I'm normally playing two eighty five to two ninety, I'm
two seventy five and now and now my nose way,
I'm the lightest I've ever been. Anyways, So okay, I
will I will have to learn, bro. There's also there's
(22:39):
not much that you haven't accomplished in this in this
league at all. Let's talk about you know, where I
go for the Walter Payton Man of the Year, Like,
you know, where does that rank in.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Your career accomplishments? Because I mean, you okay, you know,
I'm up again. I'm up for it again.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And I'm like, I'm like the work that I do,
you know, the work that I see others do, I'm
never there for like, oh, look at what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
But this nod from the watch Paid Man of the.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Ear is it feels like like a heavy I almost
call it a burden. I'm like, now I feel like
I have to raise my raise what I'm doing. I'm like,
i feel like I'm not doing enough. When you look
out you see the class candles. You know, you look
at you see you know, whether it's Travis Kelcey or
you know, Tomorrow Davis, Jason Kelsey, It's like everybody is
always doing great work in their respective communities. For you,
(23:27):
where what is that accompliment sort of lie in your
illustrious career of accomplishments.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Well, before I ask her that one, I'm gonna go,
I'm I'm gonna just because I've never did anything to
get award, right, we just want to help people, just
you know, just want to do good in the world,
you know, and we've been blessed with abundance, and so
we go out to this world and we try to
you know, make sure that you know our presences fell
and be helping our community and show all love you know, uh,
with the with the with the resources God blessed us
(23:55):
with uh you know, and so like, you know, I
feel like it's really cool that you know that there
are so many people in the NFL who do really
good things like that. And then almost you look around
so realizing, like Dann, these dudes we really be we
really be doing a whole bunch of dope stuff and
it's inspiring. It's like, man, you know, but it also
makes me almost have that pressure like that I gotta
do more, I gotta do better. Especially Award, I felt
(24:19):
like so much pressure. Like I was like, man, I
gotta go out there and you know, and live up
to it, be worthy of it. And uh you know.
But then I realized too, it's like, man, just do
us in your heart and you'll always be right, you
know at the end of the day if you do
us in your heart and you try to inspire the
next generation and you want just to spread love in
this world. You know, it'll always be enough, and so
I have to remind myself, like you ain't gotta go
(24:40):
out there and be Superman. Just be yourself, you know.
But uh, you know when it comes to watch pay
Man a year, that's that's my favorite award I've won.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Really, you know how many times? How many times were
you nominated?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Uh so my third time being nominated is when I wanted.
This is my third time being nominated. All right, I'm
just I'm got good vibes. I mean, on your team?
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
It's uh, I think I saw this one.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
It was Ale Ingle, which is crazy because he told me,
you know that, you know, he was a rookie when
I got when I won the award, or maybe it
was after his rookie year or whatever. And uh, he
was after he was at the presentation and he was like, man,
you know that I inspired him to want to win
it and want to do more in the community. And
I was like, wow, you know, that's that's pretty crazy,
(25:24):
you know, But I'm glad that, you know, I want
to I want to be an expression, you know, and
so like I love that, you know, I love that
there are guys coming to me after games and see
the patch on my jersey, Like, man, I want to
get that one day. You know. I love that, you know,
because at the end of the day, I'll trying to
do good things that are worthy of that patch of
the Great Waterer Payton. You know, I think that, uh,
you know, the world would be a better place. And so,
(25:45):
you know, I mean, we all got George Park.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
But that's that's huge, right man, I mean major, major.
I mean it's I feel like it's just like that.
It's just a call. It's like not even to call
to action. It's like a challenge to do better. Oh
you're doing good. Yeah, well these other guys doing good.
You're like, damn, I gotta step my game up.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I thought I was. I thought I was serving my community. Okay.
I was like, I like what they're doing. Let me
see if I can incorporate.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Some of that.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
But uh, man, yeah, that is it's a huge honor
even to be nominated. So I can imagine what it
feels like, you know, living living that life.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Uh you're worthy, though, but brother, you are worthy. You've
been worthy in the past, and you were worthy now
and I hope you do with it. You know, we'll
see you know, it all comes it comes down to
it though, But you I'll rooting for you, bro. I
think you deserve it.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I appreciate that, Bro, I appreciate it a lot, I'll say,
pivoting towards you know. We play Green Bay in Green
Bay on Monday Night football. I ain't I'm not getting
stalled out.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I hate the cold like you. I'm I don't even
try and hide how much I hate the cold. It's
seventy three degrees today, and I got this thick ass
sweater on, like I'm not. I'm not happy unless I'm hot,
you know. But uh, you guys got you guys got
to finish out the season.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
You know what you got left?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
How many cold games you got left too?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It's to be freezing. We have a Sunday Night in Cleveland,
went up in two weeks and then of the Jets,
you know, and the night game is always like you
know the money that you know. We just played Thanksgiving
against Green Bay in Green Bay, and boy it was cold.
It was cold.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Cold, it looked cold.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
But but I mean like you know, like like over
the years, you learned on the tricks. You know, you
ain't learn the tricks.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I went had one. I've had one cold game in
my life. Clease please school me.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I put on road on, bro, I put on that
warm skin or whatever. That didn't do a darn thing.
We was in Cleveland. That wind ripped through my soul.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I was like, I'm a warrior, I'm a man.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I walked out that thing and it whipped through my
clothes and it shot through my back.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
And I.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Am not a man. I am a boy. I deserve
chocolate and cot cocoa. I said, I don't like this, bro.
Nick Chubb is a great dude. I remember I tackled
him and I pressed off of his helmet, like as
he hit the ground. I was like, I was so
mad that I was out there. I like, pres his
head down and he's nothing but a good dude. I
like mush is head into the snow.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Was like, because I doubt.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I was pointed at to Sean.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Watson pre Snapple, like you know we've we've texted before whatever.
I was trying to get him to the Saints some
years back, and I'm pointing out. I was like, you
told me this was legendary.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
This is legendary. It's stupid.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I'm the most I'm like, I'm just I'm trash talking
and it's not making any sense. I'm like, you're dumb
for sign a year. You don't even like real football.
You're win those fats sloppingly. I can't play football, so
I stow it in the snow because this is where
I belong.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Like not making any sense.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
The young know how good they got it, though, because
they're building the domes and they're building domans in Chicago,
they're building the doman Cleveland. They're uh, you know, they're.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
As they should.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Now green Bay might be one if they'll be green Bay.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, Buffalo, like you know, Buffalo thrives off of Yeah.
I don't have tickets to the game, but I drove
up to the stadium to health shovel. Excuse you, what, sir,
what what are you doing? Snow? And if you're shoveling
in the in the stadium, it doesn't need to be there.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
We played Cleveland again two years ago, three years ago,
whatever it was. Two years ago, my first snow game,
cold game. It was negative twenty something with the windshield
and we were sitting there and the mid game they
were like, hey, everybody in the upper bowl, come down
to the lower lower bowl for heat purposes or something
like that. I was like, excuse you what I was say? No,
I said, I was like, these crazy middle westerners know
(29:26):
they shouldn't be here, but for you guys to finish
out Jersey, you know, the Jersey Jets, Jersey Giants. I'm
not sure why this is a New York situation, but
the Jersey Jets may or may not be cold, but yeah,
you got clean.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
It could be cold. You never know. So so if
anything under forty is cold to me right now, that's
level was because you get to like twenty, it's different
than forty forties. You can handle, but twenty it's a
little different. Beasts, it go to the teams. You know,
we're in trouble below the teas. You know, like, hey man,
you know you said questions you really like how much
you really football?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
How much you really love it? Why should I be
questioning this? I should be saying, your best eleven versus
my best eleven. I want to see you line up
versus me lining up. I want to see your best
athletes versus my best. Last league Whenniga's cold, bro, everybody's like,
oh yeah, this is football. Well yeah, back in the
seventies when everybody was running a four nine or higher
and you thought somebody was fast at a four or
(30:22):
five when you got and that was all hand time
because they didn't have electronic No, we're in.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
A better way and we know what works.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
No, I literally, I literally went to college at University
of Miami over Michigan because you grew up in Arizona,
so you don't really you didn't get the spirit. I
played football in the co weather in Colorado without heaters,
on the sideline, without hand warmers because we couldn't afford them. No,
no jackets because they adn't have jackets.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
You're six nine usually that would have made me a hooper.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
And I was cold in basketball too, But football my heart.
But I but I ain't go lie though. My last
college game it was it was a blizzard and we
went outside and practice in the blizzard came. My coaches said,
nobody else is practicing. We're always we will always be
out there. We don't got to answer to everybody, and
we all got sick. Everybody had the flu. He played,
the game got whipped, and the playoffs got murdered by
tea that should they should not beat this because everybody
(31:13):
was sick and I realized it and I was like, yeah, yeah,
I mean, I'm tough. I can't do anything, but you know,
I prefer to playing this one weather. If I can
one hundred.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Per bones break, I don't blink. Oh over the bone shatters.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh well, I finished the game one eyed, ribs ribs
break cracked.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm like, hey, that's part of the game. I can't breathe.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I work.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I work this hat on the sidelines, fingers snap, whatever
it is, Hey, club it up. We'll be fine, you know,
but this cold, sir, sir, so, I'm a warrior ninety
nine percent of the time. As long as that one
percent is, as long as it's not sixty five degrees
and below, I won't complain. The moment is sixty five
percent sixty five degrees outside, I'm like, what are we doing?
(31:54):
Why are we out here? We should not be out here?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Oh anything about forty I'm good. Once he's trouble.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Sixty five sixty five. I got the jacket.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
I got the last away game I had. Hey, I
had the jacket on and my teammates. Luckily, my teammates
accept me for who I am. Now, like you know
the we used to play Caroline at the end of
the year, and I have I'll be the only one
with the jacket on. And my team is like Jill
Saw I said, crazy, crazy, thirteen degrees more and guess
(32:24):
what water turns the ice.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I'm I don't need that. I don't need that. I'm true, true,
I'm simply.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Saying, but all right, it's so out of the out
of the teams that you've played with, and you know
you've now played with this is.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
The fifteen fifteen.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Oh, do you have a favorite location to have been
played at? Now you've seen, you've seen all stadiums now
from inside and out home away. What's the loudest stadium
that you've you've been a part.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Of the loudest stadium. Oo, loudest kind of tough, because
like the circumstances is matter right circus.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
That's why I left it out there.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
In the regular season. It was the Seattlehawks because I mean,
and we had the rifle. We you know, during these
times when when whenever super Bowl worthy, Richard Sherman all
the boys, Marshall Lynch said, it wasn't bawling that say
used to go rock. He used to rock plus he
used to pump that little and put the little crowd
noise in until they they said to doing music. They
do crowd noise, and they cut it off with the
(33:19):
specially cut off. Letus we know they really cut it off. Uh,
you know, so it'll be loud. But in the playoffs,
it was New Orleans. In the playoffs, the.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Bird teams they always always seem to add a little
bit more noise. And we won't we won't say which
bird teams, but you know this is Seattle falcons.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And I'm just saying it just seems like, I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
But you weren't there yet. But that year in two
thousand and nine, when yeah, when you go to the
Super Bowl, man, that that playoff game I played, but
we scored the very first player the game, tell the
hot Tower scores an eighty yard touchdown, you know, to
the house. We thought we would be the breaks off here.
We went to Super four. We come back. Now, we
(34:01):
thought the breaksoff yard man, boy, that was about that
was bouty Gate too, you know, that was the bounty
gate situation too.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Was a Saints nation.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
We get loud and then they even they bring generations
worth to cheer with them. My great great granddaddy took
me to this game, and now I've taken my great kids,
grandkids to the game, and we're gonna Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, I found out. I found out that week. We
got found out. My mama's a six fan, like old
old mama. I know you, my whole life, my whole life.
I know you. You didn't come. You didn't want to
come to no high school games because it's too cold outside,
which I understand, and I get it. It was cold,
it's Conorado. I understand, mama, But you know, and so
I didn't even know she liked football. Now we're playing
(34:45):
the Saints and she's like, that's my team. She's from
Louisiana though, So I get it. She's from Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Where's the connection?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
She just saw black and golden, was like, damn, that
is a beautiful color. You know, Like, Okay, she's from
She's from Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I love that. I was speaking of, speaking of the teams.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Out of those teams, how would you assess to, you know,
this season, previous season, whatever, How would you assess to
as a quarterback when healthy?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
It looks like you be spending that thing.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, yeah, I like you a lot right too. Is
a great leader, a natural board leader like those what
to say, and uh you know has that confidence and swagger.
Uh you know, uh fun gotta be in the locker
room around too, like he just you know, he can
shoot it. He can he can shoot it. You know,
hang out just bs and like have a good time,
you know, and like you know, all the other teams
have been a part of you know, I think Lamar
(35:31):
was like it was like that to a little bit,
you know. Uh, but besides you know them two you know,
I mean your quarterbacks kind of like you know, they
have like a bubble around it. You know, they straight
you know, we hang but it's a little different. You know,
we don't really you know, but uh you know, yeah
to a cool you know, to a real cool and
like you know, you want to see you guys, you
(35:51):
just want to see when now you know, going on
IR this year with the concussion stuff, you know, like
we talked a lot during that time and you know,
and I know people you know worried about him, you know,
but he's a competitor, He's a warrior, you know, and
you know those you know those I mean, he has
to be smarter and don't take not necessary hits, and like,
you know, I mean, you know, even if you lose
(36:12):
a game, you know, we find a long battle here
my brothers, So he can't be taking undessary hits. But uh,
you know, I know he's a competitor and the warrior,
and he wanted to be out there. And I think
this season really hurt us, put in my art because
he was probably ready to go, you know after two weeks.
You know, we can half two weeks, you know, but
of course it is what it is. You know, they
put them.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
He took some major he took that major hit to
the top of the dome. Yeah them, look them concussions
are nothing to play with, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
But I mean, like you know, you just said you
played through overal bone fracture and.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
We are warriors. I don't see I don't see quarterbacks
as warriors. I see quarterbacks a really really good people.
They live really really good lives. They only can get
on Sundays. I'm like, like, hey, live your good life.
You don't notice life, you know, like they don't through
you know, we we we stand ovations first brains, Like
that's the closest thing to a basketball players we have.
(37:05):
You're like, oh, man, like he's got a sprain risk
and he's fighting through. Yeah, meanwhile, your de tackle has
broken three bones in his hand. He's he's like, he's
he's working on a herniated disc in his back. He's
got a level one hamstring and probably.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
A little gratitude and nobody knows. Now, just say something like, oh,
you know, he's looking a little slower than he did
last week.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
He's fool bar right now, like he is. The fact
that he's out here is through the grace of God alone.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
But I will say though, the quarterback vision. You got
to put that in your mind, like that, they are
the they are the halves. They're the halves, and we
have nots, and we gotta go take what they got,
you know, because they got they got the life easy
and good, the high life.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
And I want it and I want it and I
want it and I literally hit him and I look
at them like I want to hit you, and again
like I and I hate that I can't hit you anywhere.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I have to know where to hit you. Now I
want to. I don't want to hurt you, but I
want to harm you.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You know, like I want I want you to.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I want you to know what I feel daily, because
you don't feel anything unless a Sunday high processing level.
They've got to take all the whole field and not
get there. Yeah, all those things they got to think about.
But in terms of physical prowess, they don't have that.
They live free literal we.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Make the money we make. I get it, you know,
like selling Jersey, you want to live. But I like
killing you. I want I want to, I want to
on you. I love it because like the last life
eight nine years, you can't really touch them no more.
May I think I saw the past, the penalties, and
and I've been trying not even to touch them, you.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Know, but hit him, hit them and throw the hands.
You're like, pom no, no, no, no, that was good, right,
that was good. I didn't really hit that hard. I swear,
I hate you.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Sorry, I get free. That's that's a good job. I'm
like met up all the way. That's a good job.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I was trying not to land on him, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
But but but I was in the era where back
in the day where you can really demolished quarterbacks. And
I try to remind I try to tell these young
guys about the error. Like, go back and watch some clips.
You know, you know I sup plex Brett Farv one time.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Right, you put the big the big hey, the big declete,
and all they heard was you played it against great
bay bread Fark.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
We play against Brett Favre. But I sup plex Bret Farv,
and like you know, I did get a fine. I
did get a fine for that. Though it's not because
he could plain. But I used to be able to
kill quarterbacks. You shill kill him, and I missed those days. Man,
I miss him.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
You're always going to but you know, this is the
day and age we live in. We're warriors that have
you know, thrived and seen a lot. You know, you've
got a couple of years on me. So like I
just imagine, you know, you came in two thousand and eight.
I came in two thousand eleven.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Let me play your mind real quick with something. Bruce Smith, Yeah,
played ninth nineteen seasons in the NFL. Yeah, nineteen seasons.
His combined two hundred sacks, his combined revenue and combine
hearnings in the NFL seventy million dollars.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
But that was also in like the seventies eighties, nineties, eighties,
you know when isn't too far from the seventies.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
He played in two thousand. I think he played two
thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
He retired, retired, He played ninety season. He spans, he
spans decades. He ain't that a whole okay yo, he
hate that right. Anybody, he probably made He probably made
most of his money at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
True, This is true.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
This is true right after the nineties.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
At the nineties when they fought back and had the
lockout and did everything they're supposed to do to help
us get paid.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, but it's just crazy to me because you know,
guys getting you know, seventy mill signing bonuses. Now you
know it's crazy to me. Nineteen seasons, seventy million dollars,
you know, you know, my man, uh you nine be
mad at BK.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
You know, big bag bank, break break the bank.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Gosh, heinz Allen, big bag. These little brothers get paid,
and I'm like, bro this off the backs of the
guys that came before you. But it's also because we
can't hit quarterbacks no more so. I know you want
to your quarterbacks, but you.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Know the permission before you lay him down now, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Tackle him nicely. Catch that big bag you're getting.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Be a true East Coaster. Talk to me, nice, talk
to me. Hey, tackle them nice, tackle them nice, tackle
them nice. But that's just a transition to game.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Anyways, I'm gonna wrap this up so you can get
on and you know, hang out with the kids and
the family. I appreciate you tapping in, Big Bro. It's
always gonna be love.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
You know, maybe you do play another year, Maybe I
play another three years.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
You know, we'll see what happens. That's that's for another
podcast episode. This episode is over. I appreciate you tuning
in with Off the Edge, your host, Cam Jordan's and
my big bro, my dog, Clais Campbell Peace
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