On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Giants LB Kayvon Thibodeaux is back on the pod. Hear what Kayvon says about his coach and GM staying put in New York, and the message he texted Saquon Barkley who sat out their Week 18 matchup instead of chasing the rushing yards record. Plus, he and Cam rank their all-time clutch pass rushers, and lament the half-sack stat.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
There we go off the edge for me, your host
Cam Jordan's and I love it because you know, I
got my young bull Cave on Thibodeaux coming through. Uh,
you know, the once a month sad that it's the
end of our season, beginning of the month, man, beginning
of the beginning of the year. Just not in the
right way for both of us sitting, you know, just
(00:27):
bumming it. I'm sure guys going to Cabo and I'll
just be here and this, uh, this cold weather that's
sort of taken over this east side of the Mississippi Cave. Boy,
tell me how you you know you finished the season.
You came out cool, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, I tried to get a couple at the end.
I'm just happy I got a couple. I'm not gonna lie.
It was tough for me. Yeah, I ended up. I
got five half sacks on the year and I'm at
five and a half. Right, that's just that's just bad luck.
I just I got a little bit more, man, a
little bit more.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You know, they say, they say it all comes full
circle though, you know what I'm saying, So like the
halfs that you get this year eventually pay back. You know,
it'll it'll it'll come back.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Charge it to the game.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
You know, you you got you got monster in the
middle with Sexy Dexi for most of the year, and
then of course you got Burns on it, Brian Burns
on the other side. So you know, you guys are formidable.
You guys are formidable defensive line. I mean you finished
the year with what like with the one and a
half against Philly, So yeah, it's a little strong showing,
you know, give you that burst at the edge.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
How'd you finish?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, we we end up losing to the Bucks. You know,
Bucks are pretty decent. I think they solid, solid team
beat us this year. I mean, you know who didn't
That's how I feel about. Like we won five games,
So who didn't beat us this year? You know, try
like to try to be positive. I'm like, it's over,
(01:55):
but uh put that put their perspective. You know you
you're not going to have the same locker room again.
That's that's the part that sucks.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh man, Yeah, we had you know those rookie dinners
Team Dinners. Yeah yeah, Hey did you.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
See the rookie dinner Seattle put their young bull through?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Man, Yeah, I saw that they.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Getting one hundred and fifty five thousand dollars tail bro,
and then they're like, nah, just kidding, it's only thirty
eight thousand, said thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, Like come on, man. When I went to the
Young Bulls, I was gassing it up like I was
with the Order a lot, And I'm like, no, I'm mighty,
I'm going home. I'm just playing with you. I'm not
really that hungry man.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm with my young guys. You know, we did our
we did our rookie defense dinner, and I was like,
I'm a tax you, I'm a tax you. Let me
just get a steak in lots of tail. Appreciate it,
you know, like it'ld.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Be money man, go invest more stock investments, entities.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Plus we met, we let all like all of our rookie,
our defensive rookies split that bill.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So it's not you know, okay. I was like fifty
deep yeah, twenty you.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Know whatever the defense side is, yeah, twenty six, twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
It's nice.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Got a defensive rookie defensive lineman, Christian Boyd rookie linebacker,
two of them, Jayalen Ford, uh young Isaiah Man like
three dbs. You talked about Kool Aid McKinstry, uh Rico
Payton and a guy, you know, a kid named Nook.
(03:28):
I gotta be better, Like, I don't think i've ever
it could Nook could be his first name, last name.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
He must have just got there last week or something.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You've been here the whole season. But that's it, Nook,
Nook the rook.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That was just his name, first name. It happens, Yeah,
that'll happen. Yeah, we had a new We had a
new I don't know. He's from Florida.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, so you know, okay, yeah, okay, And that's what
I'm saying. Sometimes I'm named stick Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
You know, I just learned our tight ends name. After
sixteen weeks, bro be calling him by his last name
the whole time. I was like, hey, Holker, let me
talk to your baby. Hoker. What a baby? You good,
have a real life conversation, man, you married, that's dope, bro. Bro.
Somebody called him by his first name a couple of
weeks ago and said, who the hell is Dalla And
he said, Bro, that's me Hooker. Yeah, Dalla Hooker Bo
(04:23):
Like Holker, Yeah, yeah, man, Like that's what I'm saying.
So I said, you know football, you get a nickname
and that's it. Yeah, kool a real name, kool Aid.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, people numbers A five. Yeah, I know who they're
talking to. Yeah, that's well, it's a family.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Anyways, I guess I guess the main you should should
focus on the main part of this this New Year's Bro.
You're blessed your live, You're healthy, cousin.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Got a healthy happy about that, right? You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You put a couple of games together, string them up.
I think the last five or six games I came
out with like four or five fource x. I think
that's what I finished off the season on. But it
was like, you know, for me, boy, and when I'm
when I'm when I'm used to having them double digits
and getting out the quarterbacks and I'm I'm being sent
in the edge, being sent from the edge to the
inside the inside. Life different.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, man, talk about that, speak on it changed up, man.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Two thirds of that season the third down three technique
or two y that is not How.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Was the last few games that was? Did didn't you
try to defensive line coach? Get fired? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You did? So how did you finish out? How did
you feel like that one. Man, you know, back to
back to the edge, life for the kid, back.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
To the ground.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Man. You know what I'm saying, Oh, I know this,
I know the timing of this one. Oh I know
how to get there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's a different mindset.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
You can go play now, man, free you the inside.
I'm like, all right, I got to make sure the
ends are covered. I gotta make sure.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That they put me in that they put me in
a tight five. I played like a tight five my
last like four or five weeks. Yeah, and just because
of the game plan and we were losing, so you
know a lot of teams are gonna run the ball
on so we're kind of doing sometimes five down front.
I moved down to like a four I or three
tech and I got a club on. I got the cast,
(06:19):
and you're trying to move me to three tech and
I'm supposed to be edge. I barely trying to let
me label me as a d N. So I'm like
all right, But I surprisingly liked it. It helped my
game being in that five tech and I was able
to kind of, you know, play faster and trying to
move around. So it was good.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Though the opposite of how I felt. I said, it's
so so congested, said the guard. Once you take off
that on that first step, that guard is already there
yet hurt.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'll be having to play fast playing, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
The week ass tack will be out there throwing that
little that little silent arm out there. Bro like yeah, bro, yeah,
like go bail, bro hit hit the end or something,
bro like, let me get this, let me get this
little scrub litill one be one action. Anyways, I gotta
stop talking bad about Officer Lineman. I won't do it.
But New Year's resolution next year. Man, I just hit
(07:09):
twenty sacks. I just hit twenty sacks finally in my career. Yeah,
that's pretty dope. I don't really I didn't think about
it before, but now it's like, all right, might as
well be proud of it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah? Absolutely? What are you at right now?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Plus one hundred and one and a half, one hundred
and one plus one hundred and one and a half,
I'm met one twenty one and a half now one
twenty one?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
God, how many? What do you what is this third?
What are are you talking about? What is this year?
Fourteen thirteen or fourteen. So you just completed year thirteen?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Are you just no, just completed your fourteen?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Okay, just completed fourteen? One hundred and twenty one sacks? Damn?
What are you going for? One thirty one?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
The goal? The goal? In my mind, the goal was
minimum twenty five this year, so we fell short. But uh,
yeah one thirty one thirty would make me feel better
about myself next year.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Thirty yeah, fourteen years, So what do you go? Two
hundred to twenty years? Two hundred sacks?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Oh yeah, but that's that'll never happen for me. But uh,
this new goal is like one thirty.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We're talking, and if it's not at the end, then
I have to reload.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
How you lie. You might come back. You might come
back this year and go for eight? Great?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Right, eight quick? If I happened the fight for pure end,
I need any rushes. Let me get this eight and
then we'll talk to my dog.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Lennard Williams. He just went for ten late. That was cold,
ten late.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Man. It came through strong though.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah it can happen, but it happened.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
He put like three sack, three or three and a
half sack, gave two sat game when you start getting
multiple pieces. You know what I'm saying, it get good, Bro.
I think I think there's there's some random fact out
there that said I sacked forty nine different quarterbacks in
my career. There's a lot of quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I couldn't couldn't even try and name them, like, I
know some important ones, you know, But how many secks
do you remember out there? Twenty do you remember everyone?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah? I didn't have that many.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Twenty is not what do you mean? That's not that many?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's not
I remember everyone. It's not that many, Bro.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Twenty is more than more than enough, especially if you
get half sacks.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Bro, I still got them that twenty. It's not out
of my hands yet. You know when maybe when I
get to one twenty one, I probably won't remember them.
Then it'll just be like, you.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Know, no, Bro, I feel like even at twenty sacks,
I just I was like, man, I finally got one
Cam Newton. I think I had three piece against Mike Vick,
and I was like, I sacked Matt Stafford or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I was like, looking quarterback things hard like that. That
one's hard. But I definitely remember the teams.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That's what the games. Yeah, the teams in the games
and situations for sure. Oh you know what I was
thinking about to how many like so I have out
of my twenty sacks, I think like three of them.
It would have been four, but three of them were
like game winning or like game ceiling sacks. How many
in your career you think we're like, you know, like
(10:16):
fourth quarter to like two minutes or in the drive,
you know, in the half two minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, man, that'd be that'd be that'd be a stat
to look up.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I could that.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, I can vividly remember a Falcons game Thanksgiving, uh
four sack, four sacked night, and the last one came
on the the last their last drive, third down and
fourth down to seal the.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Game type stuff. How much do you think that play
is worth?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
My mind, I say, in my mind, who else? Like
were you were? You could you could throw one of these?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That's what I'm saying. When you when you're going to renegotiate,
like you got to use that. I gotta bring that up,
like yo.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Forget, I'm a closer.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Now you gotta hey, that gotta add some type of
you know, clutch back. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
No, no, let's just go pop up in your in
your two ker and you're Madden, bringin, stay tuned. We'll
be right back.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Who's the clutchest a dresser of all time? Man?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
In my mind, I'm probably just gonna throw out Reggie White.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Reggie, I was gonna go Von Miller, And I know
that's too like that's too close. But I'm just thinking
about that Super Bowl, like snatching that ball, like that's
just like, oh, that's clutch.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So was you also throwing Brandon Graham? Yeah, on the
biggest day, Super Bowl strip sack Tom.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Even Hassan ready, you might have to throw him in
there because he came in for the Eagles that ended it, right,
you know what I'm here for. Yeah, man, Yeah, we
gotta figure that out. We gotta put that together.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
No no, no, no, that's by the time you talked
about you know, when we come back on next.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Tomorrow, somebody, somebody gonna get the information.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
We're gonna have the information. Right looking around the league,
how you feel about you know, Sakon going for the
two beans two thousands.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
So I tell him about that I was mad. I
was mad at that personally. You gotta go for that.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Gotta yeah, I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You gotta go for the record got and I told him, like,
you're not gonna get it, but try to go for it,
like what you like what you mean, like I'm gonna
stop you You're not gonna get it, but like what
you're gonna give up your opportunity to go? Like ah,
but you know, granted he probably did, he ain't really
had no control over it. I don't think, you know, obviously,
(12:38):
the bigger picture Now, I get it when when they
when at the beginning of the week when they're like, oh,
who you know, do you think Squan is gonna play
or no, I'm like, he's not. He's not gonna play.
He's a bigger picture guy, I get it, you know,
Like I get it. Me. I'm a little more you know,
like I gotta go get mine, you know, I gotta
get mine. I'm a little more gritty. He like, you know,
(12:58):
but that's what you need, that's you. That's why I
play defense. You know, I gotta go get the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
He had put up you need to put up with.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know, he did it though. Man, he's doing. He's
doing this a man. Super super inspired by him, uh,
super inspired, but definitely Yeah, he was like.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
A honeyard shot, like a very obtainable type game workhorse
that feed him that game and could have but you know.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Not on that stuff. Like I get it because you
know what I'm saying. They looked at him, They're like,
all right, he back. Yeah, yeah, he brings the pain now.
He had thirty touches when he was with us. I
told him like, he like, you don't go live because
you know mm hmm, that's my yah. I feel till
(13:50):
next time, till next time.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I feel you he's the truth right now.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, he's the truth. He's the truth. He's the truth.
He's the truth, the truth.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
The only been about two running backs in my life.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I've ever been like, yeah, he's the truth.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like Ak is one of them.
I try to tag a K when he was a rookie,
I try to be I try to beam his stuff
and he's sure like took it in stride. Yeah, wanted
to hear me with a few ye wait, the way
you know, the way shifty.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's why I don't say I can guard him no more.
I just say I'm run hi over or something.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Shooting my shot. I shoot im.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I can guard him, he can hit the little Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Coming in like major fence work. First one make a move.
When I'm in there, I gotta get there. Yeah, but
dang to you know, sho shout out to say, Kuan,
if you want a super Bowl, you gonna feel some
type of way about it.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Uh No, man, not not at all. Actually, like I'm
I'm not. I'm not that much of a hater of of.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Wait wait, you can't start off with you. You can't
start off with I'm not that much of a hater.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, I'm not. Like, like when people beat me, I
want them to go win it. If that makes sense,
Like if if they beat me, then they then all
like go go go win it. Then Yeah. So in
that case, like the NFC gotta win it. And you
know what I'm saying, Like if y'all beat me, y'all
need to go win it. So in that case, I
(15:18):
think I think it's gonna be either the Eagles or Washington.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Man. Look, so you you had say Quhan who didn't
didn't play against y'all. Man, we had Mike Evans who
needed like a buck eighteen or something like that. You
needed over one hundred yards to many.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Let's speak on that though. Man, them organizations holding out
for the players and centives and all that, don't I
don't be liking that. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I don't. Look, they got theirs. They force fed Mike
the last play, even though they knew they was about
to win the game, they still ran another playing through
directly to him, and I was like, I was like, bro,
we all know where they're going to in this one.
Like there's thirties forty seconds left in the game and
Mike Evans is still in the game, knowing that they
have playoffs possible playoffs next week, Like he shouldn't be
(16:06):
in the game, so you know where they're going.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, but now you got to do that. What you mean,
Kobe last game? But you're not going to pass on
the ball.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
No, No, that's what I'm saying. That's no, that's what
I'm saying. I'm blocking out of them, Bro, I should
what might have had a quadruple cover and left two
other wide receivers open.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Bro, come on, Kobe, I'm saying when everybody we all
know Kobe last game, you on, Kobe team.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
If I'm a Kobe team, I'm giving the ball. If
I'm I'm getting Mike Kevin as the ball, I'm saying
as a Saints player.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, nobody.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Around him, That's what I'm saying, nobody around him.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
That's cool, y'all.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We for that, like saying, wait, but you knew where
they were going again, if Kobe, if Kobe last game, Bro,
I'm probably picking up Kobe court to court, bro full court, press,
full court. Get this on here, absolutely, Pat Bev type energy.
Jose Alvarado, I'm annoying. I was.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I was kind of mad nobody was playing d when
Kobe last game. But I was like, I respect it. Like, man,
you're out here with a legend. You gotta just let him.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But like if I play with if I knew like
Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady stayed last what, oh yeah,
I feel you.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I need in in it back Aaron Rodgers last one.
I'm not playing any run. Yeah, I'm trying to get
that strip, check fumble all that.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah you know, I said, Tom Yeah that snow Angels.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
When I thought it was Tom Brady's last year, I
think like I was on the sideline hunting for that, man.
I'm like, I'm like, hey, he's only a week away
from getting art righters. I think we beat him twice
a year. He came back and beat us the third
time playoffs. I was like, he don't got arthritis, He's
a ball. He don't care about I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Tom.
I didn't mean what about Buddy?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
What about Buddy that got into the fight h on
the forty nine ers and couldn't get in there? Got ejected? Hey,
sick not even going to the playoffs, got ejected.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
But also again, if you're in the final game, bro,
so sometimes you got to spit that anger. You gotta.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah. I was out there streaming on the sideline and
I don't know what I was doing. I'm excited, man,
I'm just happy, frustrated, happy to be out here. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Bro, when I tell you, I took the field this
last game, and I was like, this is the first time,
like you know, we were two or three games out,
three games out before when we found out we didn't
have a playoff hope anymore. And I was just sitting
there like for the love of the game, like I
probably was more. I was bringing more juice than ever
because I was like, I was like, this has got
to be fabricated. Everybody's got to be able to buy it.
(18:41):
If you ain't buy in, like you don't really love it.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, Like this is literally because I love football, nothing else,
because there is nothing else my last life. That's what
I have to just tell myself, like this is just
for the game. We charge it. You can't even think
about nothing else. Like I already know what it is.
I got to put good I gotta put good tape
out there for the respect of that right, is this
what they finna remember me ask for the next eight months.
(19:06):
I gotta just go do something. I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
He gotta go give it all.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Ain't we ain't find nobody. We gotta woop some ask
on the way down to the.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Station, no doubt. Man, Look one, and I'm watching all
the film. I'm watching everything. I was like, bro, this
guy could be the last one. I need all the formations.
It is what it is, you know now, just.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
On the couch, I'm trying to watch I'm trying to
watch tape after exit meetings. Man, we ain't want to
watch the film for the game.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Y'all good, y'all good. Come on, man, let's break this
down one with I cannot do what I'm about to
do for the next week and think about what plays
I could have made. Man, get my body right now,
you like say how your body feel? You know what
I'm saying, Like you good man.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I made it out. Man, I'm linked up, but I
made it out. I'm grateful, super grateful. Little said, be
all right. I'm definitely going into rehab.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Mo.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's one thing I think I didn't do my first
two years, Like I really took two weeks off and
like didn't do nothing. I think I'm just going straight
into rehab mother, and just like just not do nothing
but rehab right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Focus focused on the hyper bearer chamber of the cups,
the acupunt accupuncture day every day, three times, three times,
four times a week. I feel that part. Yeah, big
big on the cups. I got the cups now look
like I got. Look my kid was like it was like, Daddy,
what are those bruises? I said, no, baby, that's cups.
(20:33):
Dad's healing. Don't worry about it. You know, at least
you ain't got to get a new head coach. You know,
I'm a I'm probably head of the opposite. We got
to get a new head coach. It's either higher the
interim head coach that we had uh Darren Rizzy for
the last eight weeks, or so we gotta go find
this one, you know, And that's gonna be a process.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I think, Yeah, the new head coach, you gotta come
in a week early. Ot As. I hate that for you,
who well, yeah, not you. I feel I was thinking
about that. I was thinking about, like, at what point
in my career am I gonna get to that point
where I'm like, all.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Right, I love I love OTAs. I'm probably but that's
the thing, Like I love OTAs because it reminds me
to lock back in because somewhere in this offseason, I'm
just gonna be working out, be with the fan, working
out with the fan, working out with the fam, and
I'm like, all right, it's time to turn it. Start
looking at football.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Again, like like actually watching it. I should watch a
game OTAs.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
This is that is that reminder, like, hey, man, come
into the building, may not be doing much, may start
to ramp up period, but like, all right, let's start
locking in. So by June that yeah, I'm about to
go crazy this year.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I gotta I gotta lock him. Oh Magan this year, right?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I need it? You need it? I need it. You
had you had it into a contract year. Possibly yeah,
well not possibly if you ain't get done before season
than the contract year. You know. For me, I need it,
I need a big one. I need to send off.
I need that. But I can go to the super
Bowl that I've been singing for the last four.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
It's my question to you. Are you at the point
where it's like, did Kalais Campbell just do that? He
just like get get cut so you can go dump
try to get on the team. I don't know, Daddy,
but like, would you would you be open to something
like that if y'all don't make it next year?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
End of the season? Jump ship?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Nah? Like you just you'd rather ride out like you
ride out and retire and not not go for a
super Bowl, well retire with your same team, rather than
couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I mean, like I said, if the Saints kicked me out, fine,
I'll find a new home. But to go to go?
I don't like the guys that just like up got
a d right, but that wasn't just for the playoff run.
You know what I'm saying that was that was like
he got traded over there, like you know middle season
(22:59):
Tighty'll say yeah, trade Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Middle
season tight. I'm saying for you know, a guy who
either comes off the couch immediately to the playoff, super
Bowl caliber team or the guy who's been super loyal,
you know, to a team all the career and then
all of a sudden, Hey, I'm gonna go ring Chase.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Can I ask you this, does it take away from
the legacy? Is is there really respect in the loyalty?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah? Hell yeah, hell yeah. Now if you like, if
you like, oh yeah I was five years here or
six years there and then I went somewhere else. Cool,
Like you know, let free agency do what free agency do?
You look out for your best interest. But you go
like twelve thirteen, fourteen years and you're like all right,
like your team didn't show you the door. You're like,
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I'm jumping ship.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
To go at the end. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's what I'm saying. You know, you go twelve twelve, yeah,
and you're like, oh, I'm gonna go join the Chiefs,
Like no disrespect, no disrespect, but like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Just not gonna do that. I'm just not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, if they trade for you, fine, I get it.
If you'd be like, hey, I want to release so
I can go pursue the super Bowl. Three before super Bowl,
I'm with the both for Ravens because they look like
they're about to win all this this win this thing.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's weak.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So we guys, you're like, yeah, I'm a super Bowl champion,
but you had like no burn. Does it count?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So then so then if you're okay, you're a person
like me, right, and you're like, okay, let's just say,
you know, God forbid, my fifty option doesn't get picked
up and I go to the market. It's like, okay,
do I if you were me, do you take less
money to go to Let's just say, God forbid, we're
not good? Like, obviously I think we're gonna be great
next year, but oh do I because we were bad
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this year, say oh, I'm gonna take less money and
go to a good team, or am I gonna take
more money and go with the weaker team? What would
you do in that case? I'm just saying like hm hm.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Hmmm, Like we say significantly less or we talk about
just like that year ballpark. I mean, let's say top
of the market, top of market for deepest vent is
like thirty three thirty four.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, so you say you either take you either you
either you either go to a good team and take
twenty five or you you you know, sign it, you
know Harry.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
For right, record breaking, right, I'm probably taking that twenty
five now.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Like nowadays, you're going to take that twenty five going
to play a Patrick.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Mahomes, Yeah, because you know that's life changing money either
either way, Yeah, either way. Guess what mom's house is
paid for? Your house is paid for, a condo will
be bought, a car, work, you know, kids, college is
paid for. So when it comes to apples and apples, now,
if you like a you know, ten million verse eight million,
take that ten every time. But once you get to
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them tens of millions, I said, I said, I look
like this for me, I was never gonna play in
the cold team anyways, like you know, like, yeah, bro,
my one prayer when I got drafted was don't Lord
don't send me nowhere cold?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, I probably I probably couldn't go nowhere cod to
in New York.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's bricking. It's brick out there.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Man. I just I realized that twenty twenty five came out.
Were playing in Denver next year? Man, my high Yeah
who yeh, that's my first time up there. It's gonna
be exciting.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Bro. When I tell you it's so hard to breathe
up there, I believe it. And coaches be like, no, like,
I'm done. I've done both stays. Where's like, we're gonna
go early, We're gonna go on Friday, we play Sunday,
so you have forty eight hours acclimating. You're like, bro,
I am not acclimated. Or you like go late Saturday
night and play Sunday, like because your body still has
oution YadA, YadA, YadA. Bro, I am the most tired
(26:52):
I've ever been. We haven't even played had but one
series either way, either way, I cannot breathe. Yea, yeah,
so this is enjoy that for me, I probably take
less money to be happy. I mean, I've never seen
I've never seen free agency, so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, hopefully I like that life. I'm I'm a lower
to do. I stay with I stay with New York. Yeah,
I don't nowhere else. I don't want to go nowhere else.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
But if you if you kick me out, then I
got to see you two times a year and Stone. Yeah, absolutely,
that's it. Just why to think about I don't like
thinking about it. Ohen, We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Man. Legacy though, legacy, man, that that's how how important
I guess obviously legacy is important, but like, how important
is that one thirty? Going back to that, like you're
you're you're on the brinks of Hall of Fame status, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, uh so you know when Pops played with the
Vikings for thirteen years, never changed teams. He left as
like the all time leading receiver for the team. That's
been broken multiple times since then. But six time Pro
Bowler greatness, Yeah, that's greatness that guy, you know, a
time Pro bowler, Saints, all time leading soccer greatness. When
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you're with one team, you're able to go chase those
like legacy type vibes.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah that's greatness. Yeah, yeah, that's the formula, damn you
know yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
No, no, I'm trying to make him a basketball player,
and he's fighting me on every level. I'm like, baby,
just come off the bench and make this twelve thirteen
to fourteen m baseball, basketball, Yeah, baseball. Try to make
my son a president or something.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I don't want to play. Yeah, some type of greatness.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Stuff, That's what I'm saying. But honestly, I told him,
I said, go be a lawyer, go be a doctor. Yeah,
some type of girl like the other Jordan man. We've
sort of taken care of that. And he bro he
rebubbles every time, Dad, I see you put in the work.
Poppy puts in the work. I put in the work. Yeah,
you do, Bud, you know what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
We gotta just we gotta, we gotta just put in
the work in a different like obviously you came right
now and I came right now. But like as we
just showed him that we love the different work that
they could put in. Put work in school, putting more
work in whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, but what do they directly see maybe right, That's
what I'm saying. They see you working out. He comes
to the facility, so he sees the running, he sees
the drills, he sees so he sees hard work as
physical labor, not hard work as in you know, yeah,
I'll be at home reading a book. So he right
there besides me. He reading a book. They see. What
(29:45):
kids see is what they eventually become, you know. Like,
so I love the league.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Man, Just have him do flat? How is he nine?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
He's flag flag? Get that Get that footwork right, bro?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
He nine and flat? And when I tell you the
pressure on my neck, damn, we're not gonna hit somebody.
I could have really hit him for real.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Love that I couldn't really hit for real. That gotta
me crying.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Bro Hey like, don't don't like, don't bug get my
heart strings. Bro Like, I'm already proud of you. Bro,
I'm already proud of you. I'm trying to give you
a better life. Here. Push ups in the household exactly
that broke, military push ups, jumping jack squats. Oh all right?
(30:36):
Did you make a New Year's resolution?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
M not really a resolution, just trying to be more consistent.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You gotta gotta to get places you haven't been. You
gotta do things you haven't done. So I start fasting,
trying to put down sugar, recommend myself to God like
not like not like nothing great like you know, trying
not to be cliche about it, but just like consistent.
Have to we call ourselves religious, but like the only
(31:02):
religion I really have is football, So it's like really
enforcing other religions and I mean just like actual religion,
like religions, but other practices that I'm going to do
every day religiously. Right God, So life is good actually
about you man?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You know, I committed myself back to popping off my
daily reading scripture. I feel like, you know what I'm saying,
Like I feel like I do it every couple of years,
Like Dang, I used to read every day, and now
like the first thing I read is you know this
manga that dropped or you know what was the news
clipping around the world where I should be cleansing my
Christian palate before I you know, you feel me cloud
(31:44):
the mind up with everything else is about to go on.
So I'm back on that. In fact now, like now
that we've said it, I was like, Dang, I didn't
read mine.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I mean, and that's what you got to read that religiously.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You know what I'm saying, That's that's told me. And
I'm not even gonna do better. I'm going to be better.
I'm gonna read my scripture and push from there. You
know what I'm saying, yeah, exactly, that is a that's
that's a beautiful thing to start a New Year's resolution.
Just got to see it through. My boy, Does anybody
ever have a news resolution and make all three sixty five?
That's what I need. That's what I need my resolution
(32:19):
to be. I need something.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I like that. That's the part about life that like
people don't really acknowledge that the beauty is in the
discipline and the determination of continuously doing it like whatever.
Like just because you went to the gym today and
it's like, oh, yeah, my news resolution is to go
(32:41):
to the gym, Like going to the gym one time,
you're not going to see you never gonna see the results.
Like it's not that that's not the equation. Like the
equation is a long term equation.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, you got to you gotta have that solution and
you ain't gonna see the effects until you deep you know.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, Like I am what I like Right now, I'm
working for the Super Bowl. I hopefully win in twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Seven because I need that in twenty twenty six Unless
you come down to the Saints, we will talk about this,
you know, this collusion.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
This collusion. Yeah, it's a multi.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Verse, all right, man. How do you feel about you know,
the the AC playoff teams that you played?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You know, but I played Baltimore and Steelers steal I
didn't get to play against the Steelers Baltimore. Yeah, they're nasty, man.
I think Baltimore Baltimore got it. Yeah, I'm never gonna
fight that one.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
BROFC Like, yeah, Steelers versus Ravens, I just Lamar. Lamar's
clear cut VP. So steel is not doing it for
me that much. To be hon they beat us. I'm
never gonna count Mike Toman out. I love watching Whistle play.
I think they got some dogs out there. The entire
(34:00):
line is nasty man. My boy, my boy Hayard is nasty.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Work. George can see this in Get right right, be great,
stop it, don't let it get to you. Don't let
it get to you. Be great, your young bull, be great,
bron be great. Stop it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
But also Marlon Humphreys on the side, you know, Kyle Hamilton,
come on, y'all, lock in with y'all boys, stick together.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I'm just saying, like my boy, George, you see this,
I need to tap in with each other, lock in,
make sure we all on the same page. Keep it
real with each other. Stop all the drama. Talking to
the people that camera.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Who you got coming out the FC, A f C.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Who would be either be what the chiefs of the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Could be dark Horse Chargers.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Justin Herbert, I'm going Ravens. I'm going Ravens. Still. No,
I'm not going Bills mm hmm on the only one
king in New York. Yeah, Bill, I just Bills. Just
you know, that's one of them. Like, that's one of them.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You you.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, I ain't worry about the Bill. You know, I
might take that back because they got von Miller. Von Miller,
like I said, he got that, you know, laying them games.
He gonna come in and go get you two of them.
So if he do that in the playoffs, snatched the
ball from him, take off running. You never know.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Great great Groupso Yeaessa, you gotta add Oliver over there. Formidable,
nasty line can get you, get you far. Think about
what about what about NFC?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
NFC Uh? My dark horse right now is the Commanders.
I got Commanders Eagles. Eagles I think are the best
overall team. But I got Commanders coming out because they
got nothing to lose underdogs.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I'm gonna go with the the Saints North Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah that's what's up. Yeah, I like I like Detroit
to they favorite it.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Dan Campbell Aaron Glynn. I think I think we I
think we're about to interview Aaron Glynn for the head
coach job over here at the Saints. It's not Risy then, yeah,
you know, I know they got a search, but Aaron
Glenn got the defense, rolling defense. When Championships, you saw,
you saw the they saw the work that they just
(36:35):
put on the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
It's now.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna go there, dark Horse be commanders, I guess,
But I just don't see a rookie quarterback in the ship.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Well shoot, bro, I appreciate you tapping in well, and
so probably have you for it one more time next month.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Let's do it. Appreciate we don't tap oh.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Dang man, okay man, we'll talk about this. You know,
appreciate you tapping here. Thanks to everybody listening. Uh to
the to the pod, my dog caveon Thibodeau, the Young King.
Uh here with me, your host cam Jordan's off the
edge of the pod. Wherever you get your your podcast,
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There we go off the edge for me, your host
Cam Jordan's and I love it because you know, I
got my young bull Cave on Thibodeaux coming through. Uh,
you know, the once a month sad that it's the
end of our season, beginning of the month, man, beginning
of the beginning of the year. Just not in the
right way for both of us sitting, you know, just
(00:27):
bumming it. I'm sure guys going to Cabo and I'll
just be here and this, uh, this cold weather that's
sort of taken over this east side of the Mississippi Cave. Boy,
tell me how you you know you finished the season.
You came out cool, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, I tried to get a couple at the end.
I'm just happy I got a couple. I'm not gonna lie.
It was tough for me. Yeah, I ended up. I
got five half sacks on the year and I'm at
five and a half. Right, that's just that's just bad luck.
I just I got a little bit more, man, a
little bit more.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You know, they say, they say it all comes full
circle though, you know what I'm saying, So like the
halfs that you get this year eventually pay back. You know,
it'll it'll it'll come back.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Charge it to the game.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
You know, you you got you got monster in the
middle with Sexy Dexi for most of the year, and
then of course you got Burns on it, Brian Burns
on the other side. So you know, you guys are formidable.
You guys are formidable defensive line. I mean you finished
the year with what like with the one and a
half against Philly, So yeah, it's a little strong showing,
you know, give you that burst at the edge.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
How'd you finish?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, we we end up losing to the Bucks. You know,
Bucks are pretty decent. I think they solid, solid team
beat us this year. I mean, you know who didn't
That's how I feel about. Like we won five games,
So who didn't beat us this year? You know, try
like to try to be positive. I'm like, it's over,
(01:55):
but uh put that put their perspective. You know you
you're not going to have the same locker room again.
That's that's the part that sucks.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh man, Yeah, we had you know those rookie dinners
Team Dinners. Yeah yeah, Hey did you.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
See the rookie dinner Seattle put their young bull through?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Man, Yeah, I saw that they.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Getting one hundred and fifty five thousand dollars tail bro,
and then they're like, nah, just kidding, it's only thirty
eight thousand, said thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, Like come on, man. When I went to the
Young Bulls, I was gassing it up like I was
with the Order a lot, And I'm like, no, I'm mighty,
I'm going home. I'm just playing with you. I'm not
really that hungry man.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm with my young guys. You know, we did our
we did our rookie defense dinner, and I was like,
I'm a tax you, I'm a tax you. Let me
just get a steak in lots of tail. Appreciate it,
you know, like it'ld.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Be money man, go invest more stock investments, entities.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Plus we met, we let all like all of our rookie,
our defensive rookies split that bill.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So it's not you know, okay. I was like fifty
deep yeah, twenty you.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Know whatever the defense side is, yeah, twenty six, twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
It's nice.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Got a defensive rookie defensive lineman, Christian Boyd rookie linebacker,
two of them, Jayalen Ford, uh young Isaiah Man like
three dbs. You talked about Kool Aid McKinstry, uh Rico
Payton and a guy, you know, a kid named Nook.
(03:28):
I gotta be better, Like, I don't think i've ever
it could Nook could be his first name, last name.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
He must have just got there last week or something.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You've been here the whole season. But that's it, Nook,
Nook the rook.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That was just his name, first name. It happens, Yeah,
that'll happen. Yeah, we had a new We had a
new I don't know. He's from Florida.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, so you know, okay, yeah, okay, And that's what
I'm saying. Sometimes I'm named stick Bro.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
You know, I just learned our tight ends name. After
sixteen weeks, bro be calling him by his last name
the whole time. I was like, hey, Holker, let me
talk to your baby. Hoker. What a baby? You good,
have a real life conversation, man, you married, that's dope, bro. Bro.
Somebody called him by his first name a couple of
weeks ago and said, who the hell is Dalla And
he said, Bro, that's me Hooker. Yeah, Dalla Hooker Bo
(04:23):
Like Holker, Yeah, yeah, man, Like that's what I'm saying.
So I said, you know football, you get a nickname
and that's it. Yeah, kool a real name, kool Aid.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, people numbers A five. Yeah, I know who they're
talking to. Yeah, that's well, it's a family.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Anyways, I guess I guess the main you should should
focus on the main part of this this New Year's Bro.
You're blessed your live, You're healthy, cousin.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Got a healthy happy about that, right? You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You put a couple of games together, string them up.
I think the last five or six games I came
out with like four or five fource x. I think
that's what I finished off the season on. But it
was like, you know, for me, boy, and when I'm
when I'm when I'm used to having them double digits
and getting out the quarterbacks and I'm I'm being sent
in the edge, being sent from the edge to the
inside the inside. Life different.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, man, talk about that, speak on it changed up, man.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Two thirds of that season the third down three technique
or two y that is not How.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Was the last few games that was? Did didn't you
try to defensive line coach? Get fired? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You did? So how did you finish out? How did
you feel like that one. Man, you know, back to
back to the edge, life for the kid, back.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
To the ground.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Man. You know what I'm saying, Oh, I know this,
I know the timing of this one. Oh I know
how to get there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's a different mindset.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
You can go play now, man, free you the inside.
I'm like, all right, I got to make sure the
ends are covered. I gotta make sure.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That they put me in that they put me in
a tight five. I played like a tight five my
last like four or five weeks. Yeah, and just because
of the game plan and we were losing, so you
know a lot of teams are gonna run the ball
on so we're kind of doing sometimes five down front.
I moved down to like a four I or three
tech and I got a club on. I got the cast,
(06:19):
and you're trying to move me to three tech and
I'm supposed to be edge. I barely trying to let
me label me as a d N. So I'm like
all right, But I surprisingly liked it. It helped my
game being in that five tech and I was able
to kind of, you know, play faster and trying to
move around. So it was good.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Though the opposite of how I felt. I said, it's
so so congested, said the guard. Once you take off
that on that first step, that guard is already there
yet hurt.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'll be having to play fast playing, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
The week ass tack will be out there throwing that
little that little silent arm out there. Bro like yeah, bro, yeah,
like go bail, bro hit hit the end or something,
bro like, let me get this, let me get this
little scrub litill one be one action. Anyways, I gotta
stop talking bad about Officer Lineman. I won't do it.
But New Year's resolution next year. Man, I just hit
(07:09):
twenty sacks. I just hit twenty sacks finally in my career. Yeah,
that's pretty dope. I don't really I didn't think about
it before, but now it's like, all right, might as
well be proud of it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah? Absolutely? What are you at right now?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Plus one hundred and one and a half, one hundred
and one plus one hundred and one and a half,
I'm met one twenty one and a half now one
twenty one?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
God, how many? What do you what is this third?
What are are you talking about? What is this year?
Fourteen thirteen or fourteen. So you just completed year thirteen?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Are you just no, just completed your fourteen?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Okay, just completed fourteen? One hundred and twenty one sacks? Damn?
What are you going for? One thirty one?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
The goal? The goal? In my mind, the goal was
minimum twenty five this year, so we fell short. But uh,
yeah one thirty one thirty would make me feel better
about myself next year.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Thirty yeah, fourteen years, So what do you go? Two
hundred to twenty years? Two hundred sacks?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Oh yeah, but that's that'll never happen for me. But uh,
this new goal is like one thirty.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We're talking, and if it's not at the end, then
I have to reload.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
How you lie. You might come back. You might come
back this year and go for eight? Great?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Right, eight quick? If I happened the fight for pure end,
I need any rushes. Let me get this eight and
then we'll talk to my dog.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Lennard Williams. He just went for ten late. That was cold,
ten late.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Man. It came through strong though.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah it can happen, but it happened.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
He put like three sack, three or three and a
half sack, gave two sat game when you start getting
multiple pieces. You know what I'm saying, it get good, Bro.
I think I think there's there's some random fact out
there that said I sacked forty nine different quarterbacks in
my career. There's a lot of quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I couldn't couldn't even try and name them, like, I
know some important ones, you know, But how many secks
do you remember out there? Twenty do you remember everyone?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah? I didn't have that many.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Twenty is not what do you mean? That's not that many?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's not
I remember everyone. It's not that many, Bro.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Twenty is more than more than enough, especially if you
get half sacks.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Bro, I still got them that twenty. It's not out
of my hands yet. You know when maybe when I
get to one twenty one, I probably won't remember them.
Then it'll just be like, you.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Know, no, Bro, I feel like even at twenty sacks,
I just I was like, man, I finally got one
Cam Newton. I think I had three piece against Mike Vick,
and I was like, I sacked Matt Stafford or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I was like, looking quarterback things hard like that. That
one's hard. But I definitely remember the teams.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That's what the games. Yeah, the teams in the games
and situations for sure. Oh you know what I was
thinking about to how many like so I have out
of my twenty sacks, I think like three of them.
It would have been four, but three of them were
like game winning or like game ceiling sacks. How many
in your career you think we're like, you know, like
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fourth quarter to like two minutes or in the drive,
you know, in the half two minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, man, that'd be that'd be that'd be a stat
to look up.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I could that.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, I can vividly remember a Falcons game Thanksgiving, uh
four sack, four sacked night, and the last one came
on the the last their last drive, third down and
fourth down to seal the.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Game type stuff. How much do you think that play
is worth?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
My mind, I say, in my mind, who else? Like
were you were? You could you could throw one of these?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
That's what I'm saying. When you when you're going to renegotiate,
like you got to use that. I gotta bring that up,
like yo.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Forget, I'm a closer.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Now you gotta hey, that gotta add some type of
you know, clutch back. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
No, no, let's just go pop up in your in
your two ker and you're Madden, bringin, stay tuned. We'll
be right back.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Who's the clutchest a dresser of all time? Man?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
In my mind, I'm probably just gonna throw out Reggie White.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Reggie, I was gonna go Von Miller, And I know
that's too like that's too close. But I'm just thinking
about that Super Bowl, like snatching that ball, like that's
just like, oh, that's clutch.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So was you also throwing Brandon Graham? Yeah, on the
biggest day, Super Bowl strip sack Tom.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Even Hassan ready, you might have to throw him in
there because he came in for the Eagles that ended it, right,
you know what I'm here for. Yeah, man, Yeah, we
gotta figure that out. We gotta put that together.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
No no, no, no, that's by the time you talked
about you know, when we come back on next.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Tomorrow, somebody, somebody gonna get the information.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
We're gonna have the information. Right looking around the league,
how you feel about you know, Sakon going for the
two beans two thousands.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
So I tell him about that I was mad. I
was mad at that personally. You gotta go for that.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Gotta yeah, I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You gotta go for the record got and I told him, like,
you're not gonna get it, but try to go for it,
like what you like what you mean, like I'm gonna
stop you You're not gonna get it, but like what
you're gonna give up your opportunity to go? Like ah,
but you know, granted he probably did, he ain't really
had no control over it. I don't think, you know, obviously,
(12:38):
the bigger picture Now, I get it when when they
when at the beginning of the week when they're like, oh,
who you know, do you think Squan is gonna play
or no, I'm like, he's not. He's not gonna play.
He's a bigger picture guy, I get it, you know,
Like I get it. Me. I'm a little more you know,
like I gotta go get mine, you know, I gotta
get mine. I'm a little more gritty. He like, you know,
(12:58):
but that's what you need, that's you. That's why I
play defense. You know, I gotta go get the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
He had put up you need to put up with.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know, he did it though. Man, he's doing. He's
doing this a man. Super super inspired by him, uh,
super inspired, but definitely Yeah, he was like.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
A honeyard shot, like a very obtainable type game workhorse
that feed him that game and could have but you know.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Not on that stuff. Like I get it because you
know what I'm saying. They looked at him, They're like,
all right, he back. Yeah, yeah, he brings the pain now.
He had thirty touches when he was with us. I
told him like, he like, you don't go live because
you know mm hmm, that's my yah. I feel till
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next time, till next time.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I feel you he's the truth right now.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, he's the truth. He's the truth. He's the truth.
He's the truth, the truth.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
The only been about two running backs in my life.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I've ever been like, yeah, he's the truth.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like Ak is one of them.
I try to tag a K when he was a rookie,
I try to be I try to beam his stuff
and he's sure like took it in stride. Yeah, wanted
to hear me with a few ye wait, the way
you know, the way shifty.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's why I don't say I can guard him no more.
I just say I'm run hi over or something.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Shooting my shot. I shoot im.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I can guard him, he can hit the little Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Coming in like major fence work. First one make a move.
When I'm in there, I gotta get there. Yeah, but
dang to you know, sho shout out to say, Kuan,
if you want a super Bowl, you gonna feel some
type of way about it.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Uh No, man, not not at all. Actually, like I'm
I'm not. I'm not that much of a hater of of.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Wait wait, you can't start off with you. You can't
start off with I'm not that much of a hater.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, I'm not. Like, like when people beat me, I
want them to go win it. If that makes sense,
Like if if they beat me, then they then all
like go go go win it. Then Yeah. So in
that case, like the NFC gotta win it. And you
know what I'm saying, Like if y'all beat me, y'all
need to go win it. So in that case, I
(15:18):
think I think it's gonna be either the Eagles or Washington.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Man. Look, so you you had say Quhan who didn't
didn't play against y'all. Man, we had Mike Evans who
needed like a buck eighteen or something like that. You
needed over one hundred yards to many.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Let's speak on that though. Man, them organizations holding out
for the players and centives and all that, don't I
don't be liking that. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I don't. Look, they got theirs. They force fed Mike
the last play, even though they knew they was about
to win the game, they still ran another playing through
directly to him, and I was like, I was like, bro,
we all know where they're going to in this one.
Like there's thirties forty seconds left in the game and
Mike Evans is still in the game, knowing that they
have playoffs possible playoffs next week, Like he shouldn't be
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in the game, so you know where they're going.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, but now you got to do that. What you mean,
Kobe last game? But you're not going to pass on
the ball.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
No, No, that's what I'm saying. That's no, that's what
I'm saying. I'm blocking out of them, Bro, I should
what might have had a quadruple cover and left two
other wide receivers open.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Bro, come on, Kobe, I'm saying when everybody we all
know Kobe last game, you on, Kobe team.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
If I'm a Kobe team, I'm giving the ball. If
I'm I'm getting Mike Kevin as the ball, I'm saying
as a Saints player.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, nobody.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Around him, That's what I'm saying, nobody around him.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
That's cool, y'all.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We for that, like saying, wait, but you knew where
they were going again, if Kobe, if Kobe last game, Bro,
I'm probably picking up Kobe court to court, bro full court, press,
full court. Get this on here, absolutely, Pat Bev type energy.
Jose Alvarado, I'm annoying. I was.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I was kind of mad nobody was playing d when
Kobe last game. But I was like, I respect it. Like, man,
you're out here with a legend. You gotta just let him.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But like if I play with if I knew like
Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady stayed last what, oh yeah,
I feel you.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I need in in it back Aaron Rodgers last one.
I'm not playing any run. Yeah, I'm trying to get
that strip, check fumble all that.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah you know, I said, Tom Yeah that snow Angels.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
When I thought it was Tom Brady's last year, I
think like I was on the sideline hunting for that, man.
I'm like, I'm like, hey, he's only a week away
from getting art righters. I think we beat him twice
a year. He came back and beat us the third
time playoffs. I was like, he don't got arthritis, He's
a ball. He don't care about I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Tom.
I didn't mean what about Buddy?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
What about Buddy that got into the fight h on
the forty nine ers and couldn't get in there? Got ejected? Hey,
sick not even going to the playoffs, got ejected.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
But also again, if you're in the final game, bro,
so sometimes you got to spit that anger. You gotta.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah. I was out there streaming on the sideline and
I don't know what I was doing. I'm excited, man,
I'm just happy, frustrated, happy to be out here. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Bro, when I tell you, I took the field this
last game, and I was like, this is the first time,
like you know, we were two or three games out,
three games out before when we found out we didn't
have a playoff hope anymore. And I was just sitting
there like for the love of the game, like I
probably was more. I was bringing more juice than ever
because I was like, I was like, this has got
to be fabricated. Everybody's got to be able to buy it.
(18:41):
If you ain't buy in, like you don't really love it.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, Like this is literally because I love football, nothing else,
because there is nothing else my last life. That's what
I have to just tell myself, like this is just
for the game. We charge it. You can't even think
about nothing else. Like I already know what it is.
I got to put good I gotta put good tape
out there for the respect of that right, is this
what they finna remember me ask for the next eight months.
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I gotta just go do something. I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
He gotta go give it all.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Ain't we ain't find nobody. We gotta woop some ask
on the way down to the.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Station, no doubt. Man, Look one, and I'm watching all
the film. I'm watching everything. I was like, bro, this
guy could be the last one. I need all the formations.
It is what it is, you know now, just.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
On the couch, I'm trying to watch I'm trying to
watch tape after exit meetings. Man, we ain't want to
watch the film for the game.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Y'all good, y'all good. Come on, man, let's break this
down one with I cannot do what I'm about to
do for the next week and think about what plays
I could have made. Man, get my body right now,
you like say how your body feel? You know what
I'm saying, Like you good man.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I made it out. Man, I'm linked up, but I
made it out. I'm grateful, super grateful. Little said, be
all right. I'm definitely going into rehab.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Mo.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That's one thing I think I didn't do my first
two years, Like I really took two weeks off and
like didn't do nothing. I think I'm just going straight
into rehab mother, and just like just not do nothing
but rehab right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Focus focused on the hyper bearer chamber of the cups,
the acupunt accupuncture day every day, three times, three times,
four times a week. I feel that part. Yeah, big
big on the cups. I got the cups now look
like I got. Look my kid was like it was like, Daddy,
what are those bruises? I said, no, baby, that's cups.
(20:33):
Dad's healing. Don't worry about it. You know, at least
you ain't got to get a new head coach. You know,
I'm a I'm probably head of the opposite. We got
to get a new head coach. It's either higher the
interim head coach that we had uh Darren Rizzy for
the last eight weeks, or so we gotta go find
this one, you know, And that's gonna be a process.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I think, Yeah, the new head coach, you gotta come
in a week early. Ot As. I hate that for you,
who well, yeah, not you. I feel I was thinking
about that. I was thinking about, like, at what point
in my career am I gonna get to that point
where I'm like, all.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Right, I love I love OTAs. I'm probably but that's
the thing, Like I love OTAs because it reminds me
to lock back in because somewhere in this offseason, I'm
just gonna be working out, be with the fan, working
out with the fan, working out with the fam, and
I'm like, all right, it's time to turn it. Start
looking at football.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Again, like like actually watching it. I should watch a
game OTAs.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
This is that is that reminder, like, hey, man, come
into the building, may not be doing much, may start
to ramp up period, but like, all right, let's start
locking in. So by June that yeah, I'm about to
go crazy this year.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I gotta I gotta lock him. Oh Magan this year, right?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I need it? You need it? I need it. You
had you had it into a contract year. Possibly yeah,
well not possibly if you ain't get done before season
than the contract year. You know. For me, I need it,
I need a big one. I need to send off.
I need that. But I can go to the super
Bowl that I've been singing for the last four.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
It's my question to you. Are you at the point
where it's like, did Kalais Campbell just do that? He
just like get get cut so you can go dump
try to get on the team. I don't know, Daddy,
but like, would you would you be open to something
like that if y'all don't make it next year?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
End of the season? Jump ship?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Nah? Like you just you'd rather ride out like you
ride out and retire and not not go for a
super Bowl, well retire with your same team, rather than
couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I mean, like I said, if the Saints kicked me out, fine,
I'll find a new home. But to go to go?
I don't like the guys that just like up got
a d right, but that wasn't just for the playoff run.
You know what I'm saying that was that was like
he got traded over there, like you know middle season
(22:59):
Tighty'll say yeah, trade Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Middle
season tight. I'm saying for you know, a guy who
either comes off the couch immediately to the playoff, super
Bowl caliber team or the guy who's been super loyal,
you know, to a team all the career and then
all of a sudden, Hey, I'm gonna go ring Chase.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Can I ask you this, does it take away from
the legacy? Is is there really respect in the loyalty?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah? Hell yeah, hell yeah. Now if you like, if
you like, oh yeah I was five years here or
six years there and then I went somewhere else. Cool,
Like you know, let free agency do what free agency do?
You look out for your best interest. But you go
like twelve thirteen, fourteen years and you're like all right,
like your team didn't show you the door. You're like,
(23:47):
I'm jumping ship.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
To go at the end. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's what I'm saying. You know, you go twelve twelve, yeah,
and you're like, oh, I'm gonna go join the Chiefs,
Like no disrespect, no disrespect, but like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Just not gonna do that. I'm just not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, if they trade for you, fine, I get it.
If you'd be like, hey, I want to release so
I can go pursue the super Bowl. Three before super Bowl,
I'm with the both for Ravens because they look like
they're about to win all this this win this thing.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's weak.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So we guys, you're like, yeah, I'm a super Bowl champion,
but you had like no burn. Does it count?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So then so then if you're okay, you're a person
like me, right, and you're like, okay, let's just say,
you know, God forbid, my fifty option doesn't get picked
up and I go to the market. It's like, okay,
do I if you were me, do you take less
money to go to Let's just say, God forbid, we're
not good? Like, obviously I think we're gonna be great
next year, but oh do I because we were bad
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this year, say oh, I'm gonna take less money and
go to a good team, or am I gonna take
more money and go with the weaker team? What would
you do in that case? I'm just saying like hm hm.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Hmmm, Like we say significantly less or we talk about
just like that year ballpark. I mean, let's say top
of the market, top of market for deepest vent is
like thirty three thirty four.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, so you say you either take you either you
either you either go to a good team and take
twenty five or you you you know, sign it, you
know Harry.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
For right, record breaking, right, I'm probably taking that twenty
five now.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Like nowadays, you're going to take that twenty five going
to play a Patrick.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Mahomes, Yeah, because you know that's life changing money either
either way, Yeah, either way. Guess what mom's house is
paid for? Your house is paid for, a condo will
be bought, a car, work, you know, kids, college is
paid for. So when it comes to apples and apples, now,
if you like a you know, ten million verse eight million,
take that ten every time. But once you get to
(25:57):
them tens of millions, I said, I said, I look
like this for me, I was never gonna play in
the cold team anyways, like you know, like, yeah, bro,
my one prayer when I got drafted was don't Lord
don't send me nowhere cold?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, I probably I probably couldn't go nowhere cod to
in New York.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's bricking. It's brick out there.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Man. I just I realized that twenty twenty five came out.
Were playing in Denver next year? Man, my high Yeah
who yeh, that's my first time up there. It's gonna
be exciting.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Bro. When I tell you it's so hard to breathe
up there, I believe it. And coaches be like, no, like,
I'm done. I've done both stays. Where's like, we're gonna
go early, We're gonna go on Friday, we play Sunday,
so you have forty eight hours acclimating. You're like, bro,
I am not acclimated. Or you like go late Saturday
night and play Sunday, like because your body still has
oution YadA, YadA, YadA. Bro, I am the most tired
(26:52):
I've ever been. We haven't even played had but one
series either way, either way, I cannot breathe. Yea, yeah,
so this is enjoy that for me, I probably take
less money to be happy. I mean, I've never seen
I've never seen free agency, so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, hopefully I like that life. I'm I'm a lower
to do. I stay with I stay with New York. Yeah,
I don't nowhere else. I don't want to go nowhere else.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
But if you if you kick me out, then I
got to see you two times a year and Stone. Yeah, absolutely,
that's it. Just why to think about I don't like
thinking about it. Ohen, We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Man. Legacy though, legacy, man, that that's how how important
I guess obviously legacy is important, but like, how important
is that one thirty? Going back to that, like you're
you're you're on the brinks of Hall of Fame status, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, uh so you know when Pops played with the
Vikings for thirteen years, never changed teams. He left as
like the all time leading receiver for the team. That's
been broken multiple times since then. But six time Pro
Bowler greatness, Yeah, that's greatness that guy, you know, a
time Pro bowler, Saints, all time leading soccer greatness. When
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you're with one team, you're able to go chase those
like legacy type vibes.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah that's greatness. Yeah, yeah, that's the formula, damn you
know yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
No, no, I'm trying to make him a basketball player,
and he's fighting me on every level. I'm like, baby,
just come off the bench and make this twelve thirteen
to fourteen m baseball, basketball, Yeah, baseball. Try to make
my son a president or something.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I don't want to play. Yeah, some type of greatness.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Stuff, That's what I'm saying. But honestly, I told him,
I said, go be a lawyer, go be a doctor. Yeah,
some type of girl like the other Jordan man. We've
sort of taken care of that. And he bro he
rebubbles every time, Dad, I see you put in the work.
Poppy puts in the work. I put in the work. Yeah,
you do, Bud, you know what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
We gotta just we gotta, we gotta just put in
the work in a different like obviously you came right
now and I came right now. But like as we
just showed him that we love the different work that
they could put in. Put work in school, putting more
work in whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, but what do they directly see maybe right, That's
what I'm saying. They see you working out. He comes
to the facility, so he sees the running, he sees
the drills, he sees so he sees hard work as
physical labor, not hard work as in you know, yeah,
I'll be at home reading a book. So he right
there besides me. He reading a book. They see. What
(29:45):
kids see is what they eventually become, you know. Like,
so I love the league.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Man, Just have him do flat? How is he nine?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
He's flag flag? Get that Get that footwork right, bro?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
He nine and flat? And when I tell you the
pressure on my neck, damn, we're not gonna hit somebody.
I could have really hit him for real.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Love that I couldn't really hit for real. That gotta
me crying.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Bro Hey like, don't don't like, don't bug get my
heart strings. Bro Like, I'm already proud of you. Bro,
I'm already proud of you. I'm trying to give you
a better life. Here. Push ups in the household exactly
that broke, military push ups, jumping jack squats. Oh all right?
(30:36):
Did you make a New Year's resolution?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
M not really a resolution, just trying to be more consistent.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Man.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You gotta gotta to get places you haven't been. You
gotta do things you haven't done. So I start fasting,
trying to put down sugar, recommend myself to God like
not like not like nothing great like you know, trying
not to be cliche about it, but just like consistent.
Have to we call ourselves religious, but like the only
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religion I really have is football, So it's like really
enforcing other religions and I mean just like actual religion,
like religions, but other practices that I'm going to do
every day religiously. Right God, So life is good actually
about you man?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You know, I committed myself back to popping off my
daily reading scripture. I feel like, you know what I'm saying,
Like I feel like I do it every couple of years,
Like Dang, I used to read every day, and now
like the first thing I read is you know this
manga that dropped or you know what was the news
clipping around the world where I should be cleansing my
Christian palate before I you know, you feel me cloud
(31:44):
the mind up with everything else is about to go on.
So I'm back on that. In fact now, like now
that we've said it, I was like, Dang, I didn't
read mine.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I mean, and that's what you got to read that religiously.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You know what I'm saying, That's that's told me. And
I'm not even gonna do better. I'm going to be better.
I'm gonna read my scripture and push from there. You
know what I'm saying, yeah, exactly, that is a that's
that's a beautiful thing to start a New Year's resolution.
Just got to see it through. My boy, Does anybody
ever have a news resolution and make all three sixty five?
That's what I need. That's what I need my resolution
(32:19):
to be. I need something.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I like that. That's the part about life that like
people don't really acknowledge that the beauty is in the
discipline and the determination of continuously doing it like whatever.
Like just because you went to the gym today and
it's like, oh, yeah, my news resolution is to go
(32:41):
to the gym, Like going to the gym one time,
you're not going to see you never gonna see the results.
Like it's not that that's not the equation. Like the
equation is a long term equation.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, you got to you gotta have that solution and
you ain't gonna see the effects until you deep you know.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, Like I am what I like Right now, I'm
working for the Super Bowl. I hopefully win in twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Seven because I need that in twenty twenty six Unless
you come down to the Saints, we will talk about this,
you know, this collusion.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
This collusion. Yeah, it's a multi.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Verse, all right, man. How do you feel about you know,
the the AC playoff teams that you played?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You know, but I played Baltimore and Steelers steal I
didn't get to play against the Steelers Baltimore. Yeah, they're nasty, man.
I think Baltimore Baltimore got it. Yeah, I'm never gonna
fight that one.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
BROFC Like, yeah, Steelers versus Ravens, I just Lamar. Lamar's
clear cut VP. So steel is not doing it for
me that much. To be hon they beat us. I'm
never gonna count Mike Toman out. I love watching Whistle play.
I think they got some dogs out there. The entire
(34:00):
line is nasty man. My boy, my boy Hayard is nasty.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Work. George can see this in Get right right, be great,
stop it, don't let it get to you. Don't let
it get to you. Be great, your young bull, be great,
bron be great. Stop it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
But also Marlon Humphreys on the side, you know, Kyle Hamilton,
come on, y'all, lock in with y'all boys, stick together.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I'm just saying, like my boy, George, you see this,
I need to tap in with each other, lock in,
make sure we all on the same page. Keep it
real with each other. Stop all the drama. Talking to
the people that camera.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Who you got coming out the FC, A f C.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Who would be either be what the chiefs of the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Could be dark Horse Chargers.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Justin Herbert, I'm going Ravens. I'm going Ravens. Still. No,
I'm not going Bills mm hmm on the only one
king in New York. Yeah, Bill, I just Bills. Just
you know, that's one of them. Like, that's one of them.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You you.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, I ain't worry about the Bill. You know, I
might take that back because they got von Miller. Von Miller,
like I said, he got that, you know, laying them games.
He gonna come in and go get you two of them.
So if he do that in the playoffs, snatched the
ball from him, take off running. You never know.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Great great Groupso Yeaessa, you gotta add Oliver over there. Formidable,
nasty line can get you, get you far. Think about
what about what about NFC?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
NFC Uh? My dark horse right now is the Commanders.
I got Commanders Eagles. Eagles I think are the best
overall team. But I got Commanders coming out because they
got nothing to lose underdogs.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I'm gonna go with the the Saints North Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah that's what's up. Yeah, I like I like Detroit
to they favorite it.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Dan Campbell Aaron Glynn. I think I think we I
think we're about to interview Aaron Glynn for the head
coach job over here at the Saints. It's not Risy then, yeah,
you know, I know they got a search, but Aaron
Glenn got the defense, rolling defense. When Championships, you saw,
you saw the they saw the work that they just
(36:35):
put on the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
It's now.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna go there, dark Horse be commanders, I guess,
But I just don't see a rookie quarterback in the ship.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Well shoot, bro, I appreciate you tapping in well, and
so probably have you for it one more time next month.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Let's do it. Appreciate we don't tap oh.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Dang man, okay man, we'll talk about this. You know,
appreciate you tapping here. Thanks to everybody listening. Uh to
the to the pod, my dog caveon Thibodeau, the Young King.
Uh here with me, your host cam Jordan's off the
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