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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
The one player in the twenty twenty five draft that
you think is a sure thing is who Peter kick
it off. I'm going up to Penn State, and you're
probably thinking of Dual Carter. I'm going as teammate Tyler Warren,
the big tight end, the guy who does everything like
quarterback in high school, played h back and then moved
to tight end and basically leads Penn State in every
offensive category that is cumunly possible and dominated.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
In college football playoffs. Top ten pick.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
For some reason, I don't have the buzz that he's
getting Top five.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
He might when it's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Absolute beasts and a team leader who can do it
both in the blocking game.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
And in the receiving game.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
The ultimate tight end coming out of college, Tyler Warren.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
And it's a sure thing in my eyes. I like it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's been long ten weeks for Giants fans waiting and
watching it went from dreams of Stafford, to dreams of
Rogers too, then thoughts of Jameis and to now being like,
all right, it's Russ and what version of Russ are
we getting we get in the version of Russ that's
the first ten weeks of last season that looked like
a guy who was a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback, or
the last five weeks where the Steelers offense faltered. Either way,
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it's an upgrade from last year's quarterback room. Right now
you've got Jamis Winston and Russell Wilson, two competent quarterbacks.
You leave the door open if you want to draft
a quarterback at three. Now that means that Shador Sanders
would likely have to fall to three, but you're not
tied to drafting Shador Sanders. You could still get a
franchise cornerstone and build brick by brick in. One of
those franchise cornerstones could be Abdul Carter, it could be
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Travis Hunter. I will say this, there is very little
sizzle or buzz around the Giants now. I mean you're
talking about something that the Maras might not be excited about,
which would mean being on the fifth crew on or
being on the sixth crew on CBS opening week and
one o'clock games every single week and not getting those
primetime ratings, not getting everyone talking about the Giants Russell
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Wilson and Jamis Winston are competent quarterbacks. They are not
going to have fans buying jerseys tomorrow and saying I
need to be a part of this wave. That means
it's gonna be about the football, and it's gonna be
about the draft, whether they can get the guy or not,
and if they want the guy or not.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You don't want to.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Overreach for a quarterback. We saw that in so many
drafts before. And I look at like the Zach Wilson
draft that the Jets were part of, and then teams
were like, all right, we need Trey Lancet three. Okay,
well we need to jump up and get I don't
think you want to be desperate for a quarterback. Russell
Wilson led a team to the playoffs last year. Whether
you think he was great or not, he did it.
He's confident enough. It's not gonna have anyone doing flips.
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And it might be on the New York Post front
cover for one day, not twenty like the Rogers signing
would have been. But they've got their two quarterbacks and
they leave the door open if they want another one too.
It's now like if you want to take Tyler Schuck
who is out of louis Ville and he's a twenty
five year old quarterback who's that Texas Tech for You
don't have to sit the three pick. You can say, Okay,
we could draft Abdua, Carter, Travis Hunter, one of those
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two guys at three.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
They will be there.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
They have to be because if Ford's going one, one
of those two guys are at three, and then we
can get a guy that maybe we like as a
rookie quarterback, but we don't have to draft him at
three with all the pressure and the expectations. We could
take him in the second round with the thirty fourth
pick or the third round. That gives him that opportunity.
I also look at the Giants when they laid out
their chessboard. I don't think they this was a goal.
I think Stafford, I think Rogers this is option C
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and D. So you can't be overwhelmed with joy right now.
It's more settling than anything, especially with the fact that
Russell was, you know, taking this tour, going to Cleveland,
going to who's selling his wares and you're like, I
get so. My last point is this, the Giants fan
base has been so miserable the last few years, so
sad everything is doom and gloom.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
You just had two of.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
The most optimistic, positive players in the entire NFL join
that locker room and joined that quarterbacks room, where at
the very least there is a light in there is
a positivity with Russell Wilson and Jameis wins and these
are two guys who have.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Never had a bad day in their lives.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well, the carousel was going around and around and around,
and there was a couple of seats available and now
there's really just one. And I don't think this is
because the Giants were like, you know what, We've had enough,
We're going I think the Giants got the message and
the writing was on the wall that Aaron Rodgers wasn't
coming to them, So they were like, let's pivot. We'll
do Jamis and then we'll do Russ for a combined
cost that'll be way less than it would have been had.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
They brought in Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
But there is a moment of sadness here because I
think the Aaron Rodgers Giants thing was at least tantalizing
from a New York City perspective, and what it could
have meant and to have Aaron Rodgers throwing to neighbors.
But now there's really just one place left and that's Pittsburgh.
The other place left is Rogers exploring other things and
other opportunities outside of football, so as retirement or the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
You know, what's the hold up? What's the way?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
We mentioned Pat McAfee last last hour to Cam Hayward.
He's got that big event next Wednesday, I believe in
Pittsburgh that he's hosting, Like, is Rogers gonna do a
big announcement? Is this gonna be one of these deals
where Rogers unveils us to a crowd of Steelers fans
that has.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
A big live event in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yes, that Rogers may show up and be like, is
that not a great way to like unveil this thing.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
It might not be because what if the Steelers fans boom?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, it's actually fascinating. Like Flourio put a poll out
there and he's like, Steelers fans, straight up, you want
this or not? And I think most of you at
this point, I think it is. It's like where what
are we doing? Otherwise?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
If you ask them at the start of the you
know they started the whole free agency think maybe not,
but like at this point I think Rogers to the Steelers,
whether it makes sense or not, from both sides, it
seems like it's the most natural fit and it might
be the last fit unless there's a wildcar team. I
have said this team time and time again, and no
one has has has has backed me up.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And knowing that, I can't wait, what was it? If
you're the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Do you not make a play like you got Derek
Carr there? Do you not say let's just go for
I don't know. Maybe that's two veteran quarterbacks who are
a brand new coach and a brand new coach with
Calm Moore, But like, I just think that's a market
that could use like some buzz, and it gets.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
A guy that's a veteran quarterback for a.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Team that's actually filled with veterans, Like the Saints are
all veteran guys.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Now, it's not like Alvin kamaras a second year guy.
It's not like, you know, you've.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Got that defense with Tomorrow Davis and of course our
guy Cam Jordan, but like they are veteran guys all
up and down that Saints team. Do you not bring
in Rodgers and try to win the NFC South? But
maybe they just tied to Derek Cole.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I'm going way off the board here talking about Saints
and Rogers.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
But you're trying to ask me to do some heavy
lifting here, and that's just me speculating throwing darts. There's
been no buzz around that one at all. That's two
things for you. Little nuggets from the combine that I
have in my notebook that I'll like bring out here. Abuka,
the first guy right there at number seventeen, who is
amazing throughout the college football playoffs. I asked a longtime
GM who I've become very close to when it comes
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to draft stuff and boards and all that.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
All right, straight up best interview, the best.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Person you met in the most Likable prize a buc
Ohio State. And that same GM a few years back
when I asked him that same questions, I always go
through the same list of questions, told me Terry McLaurin
Ohio State. So you're talking about great leaders, great men,
that is who you're getting in that wide receiver. And
then the guy who didn't work out yesterday, Judkins out
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of Ohio State is one of the most awesome players
in this draft. And what I love about him was
ran for sixteen hundred yards of the freshman at all
Miss sixteen hundred yards in the SEC, won Freshman of
the Year, then straight because nil portal World. It's like, Blach,
you gotta get out.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I guess after.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Two years of dominating the SEC, he spends one year
at Ohio State and goes and wins the National Championship,
runs for less yards because he's sharing carries.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But in every interview that he gave.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
When I was asking questions, he was like, oh, I
just wanted to win the CHIP.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I wanted to win the chip.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
And maybe there were some chips A dollars signed to
it that helped as well.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
But if not, like old Miss was one of these.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Mid majors, he left the SEC where he was dominating,
and that when dominated the Big ten, it was probably
the best player on that team when they needed most
in those big moments. So I look at both Judkins
and I look at Abuka, and I think both those
guys our first round picks, and both those guys are
going to be superstars in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Peter, how do you feel about Ashton Genty in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, I think it's this guy's the limit. And you know,
you think about every year it's like here's b Jon
Robinson and then you know one other year it's.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Gonna be here's Adrian Peterson. There are these few names
that are like we've been.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Hearing about Geny all season and the numbers are outstanding.
It's working to make an immediate impact because I think
he is a top ten pick, But like, what team
can he lift on his shoulders and say I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Gonna get you there?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
When you think about it, if he's the number one
pure player in this draft, regardless of position, if you're
Cleveland at two, or if you're the you know, the
giant Tep Tracy, I guess. But like you start thinking
about these teams in the top five and it's like
this is not the greatest top to bottom as far
as like these, why not just say this is the
year I'm just gonna take a running back like the
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old school days where you would take a Marshall Fulk
in the top five.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Or you would go and just go and Leonard fourte
rab a.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Leonard Fournette if you have to, and you're like top ten,
I'm taking a running back. I think I think this
might be one of the shockers of the draft if
he goes I don't know, five to Jacksonville, you know,
top four to New England, like six of the Raiders
sticks to the Raiders, like to me, the sky's the
limit and I'm excited to see where he ends up
the nickname. Last night, Russell and cr are sitting a
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courtside like there was some buzz and there was some action.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Russell Wilson like New York City. I don't know. There's
Chris Rock in the in the foreground, you could see
like thek my guy, Maddie Moden in the back. Is
that modin? Hello? We love him? In the wrestling film
Vision Crass Test also now on Stranger Things, Biggest Show
in the World film that one is do to me,
I live in a vision quest world.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That said, he gets out there like you're thinking he's
gonna do the press conference and it's gonna be you know,
I'm just here to be to be a team player.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
He was like, I want to be the starter. He's
not looking at a mentor rookie at.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The Staria that he will you know, but it wasn't
one of those where it's like whatever you do, I'm
now for him, just happy for the opportunity, like Russ
wants to rock and roll, and Russ wants to do this.
There was a buzz and for for even a minute,
even if it was just yesterday, it was like, Okay,
that's a quarterback. And I hate to just keep on
piling on Daniel Jones that he's no longer here. But
at no point with Daniel Jones like let's go, I'm
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the guy, let's rock and roll. Daniel Jones never had
that or I never had that presence. And whether Russell
is the same guy he was in twenty seventeen and
twenty eighteen when he was competing for MVP Awards and
getting the Seahawks through the playoffs or he's this different
version of himself, I think at the very least there's
a presence. And I'll add this, you know, I'm looking
at the numbers yesterdays they were coming in and it's
ten and a half million, and he can make up
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to I think fifteen million with incentives, and Jamis will
make eight. Duk Trescott's going to make sixty million, dollars
to be the Cowboys quarterback.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Sixty that's sixty six, ohs. Russell Wilson will make ten.
So for one sixth of.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
What you're paying Dak Prescott, you get your starting quarterback.
And I don't know if Dak Prescott is six times
the player that Russell Wilson is. So we'll see and
go to the giant situation Rogers. They had to at
some point and be like, we're not going to justcend.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Here and wait.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
They go on, Rogers is going to likely be either
in Pittsburgh or not playing at all. And now I
have Russell Wilson, a competent quarterback, and you still leave
the door open for that third. Overall, I feel a
lot better today about it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Seeing kind of Russ and hearing Russ and.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Seeing him in New York being well received than I
did yesterday, where I was like, all right, Russell Wilson,
what's next? You know?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
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