December 4, 2024 • 59 mins
Peter starts with his thoughts on the Bears handling of the firing of Matt Eberflus and what that means for their next HC, the Jets' search, and the Kyle Shanahan/San Francisco rumblings. Then Joel McHale joins the pod to go down memory lane with Seahawks Super Bowl memories, talk about his college football playing career, his rise to fame, and all things "Community."
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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got a good guest today, Joe McHale's gonna tain us hilarious.
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He's also on about sixteen different shows for Fox right now.
We're gonna get mchaelan in a moment. But before we
talk about his career, his thew I want to talk
about the Bears and what went down those twenty four
hours Thursday and Friday and break it down and then
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kind of take it from there, all right, So they
lose in historic fashion, crazy, you know, discombobulated play. And
then Mattibraflus was a press conference afterwards, and you could
tell he's still frazzled by the whole thing, and he's like,
I liked what we had. I liked it. So it's
like the third or fourth different press conference they lost
at the end where eber Flus has had some head
scratching stuff, and then we turned the TV off because
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that Cowboys Giants game. I don't know. That's when you
eat and then you watch the Packers game at night
and you're like, all right, what's gonna happen tomorrow in Chicago.
Here's my perspective on the whole thing. I'm hosting Good
Morning Football Friday morning, but I got an alert saying
iber Flus is talking to the media at nine am
Central time. Good Morning Football is from eight to ten Eastern,
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So as our show is ending, I knew there was
gonna be an eber Flus press conference. I said to
the producers, I said, guys, keep an eye on that.
If they have the press conference, it means he's kept
his job. They're not going to bring him out there
and trot him out there to do a media session
the next day after that loss and then fire him.
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But if there's an alert at some point that that
media session has been moved has been pushed back, he's fired.
He's done. So I'm watching the clock like a hawk,
and I'm checking my emails and all my texts to
see if the Matt Eberflus Friday morning media session is
being moved. I have done this for a long time.
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They do not trot the coach out there for a
press conference the day after a loss and then fire
him after. It doesn't happen. It's just not a coordinating thing.
Ten Am Eastern happens. Good Morning Football goes off the
air and there's Matt Eberflus on a zoom getting grilled
for twenty minutes by local reporters, taking the bullets and
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talking about the game against San Francisco next week. Like, Wow,
the mccaskeys really really do not like firing people mid season.
And Ryan Poles, I don't know if it's a credit
to him or it's a loyalty to Iberflus or what,
but like, if ever there was a window the fans
would understand, you could have fired him, but they didn't,
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and he'll coach another week and we'll see what the
story goes. Literally twenty minutes later, I get a text
from a source Iberflus fired. I'm like, what so the
Bears and it's McCaskey. It's Kevin Warren. Kevin Warren was
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the big ten commissioner. Then he was the president of
the Vikings, and now he's the president of the Bears,
and the stadium is the big story with the Bears
and Kevin Warren, and that's gonna be his big, you know,
obvious talking and mission for the next few years. And
it's polls the GM. And the way I heard it
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was that Iberflus's press conference was scheduled, but they had
at the same time a meeting scheduled with the owner
of the president, and the general manager to discuss the
future of the head coach. They had not decided or
determined the head coach's future or fate before that meeting.
But as they hammered it around and they talked about it,
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they said, Okay, we're gonna fire him. My thing is,
can you not move that meeting with the owner, the
president and the GM two hours earlier given the circumstances.
I know, Thanksgiving is a special time, and I know
everyone flew back. I just felt that was unfair to
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Matt Eberflus. So they fired Eberflus. And then on Monday morning,
Kevin Warren and Ryan Poles do a press conference and Warren,
who I didn't hear anyone saying that Poles's job was
in jeopardy. It's like, I just want to make it
clear that Ryan Poles, the GM's job is not in
jeopardy and he's our guy. And I'm like, this shirt
sounds like a vote confidence when no one's really asking.
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I mean, I don't think anyone was wondering whether Ryan
Pouls is gonna keep his job. Ryan Poles drafted Caleb
and made that incredible trade to get not only that pick,
but DJ Moore. And it's the press conference on Monday
was head scratching. Also, fast forward to today and it's Thursday,
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and at this job opening, you're gonna hear every name mentioned.
And one of the names that keeps popping up is
Kyle Shanahan's name. And let me just lay my cards
on the table. I don't think Kyle Shanahan's being fired
by the San Francisco forty nine ers. I don't. I
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don't think John Lynch is being fired by the forty
nine ers. Mike Florio is a reporter for NBC Sports
and Pro Football Talk. Mike Florio over the years has
broken a lot of Niners stories. Mike Florio is very
plugged in and he has done a bit of a
media tour, so I'm on eyes in him on I
think Dan Patrick I saw him on his own show,
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being like, I'm not so sure Shanahan's coming back to
San Francisco after this disastrous year. This is the beauty
of coach hiring season. You can get names like Vrabel
attached to the Jets, you can get names like Shanahan
attached to the Bears, and I can't say no to
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any of it because I have seen crazier happen. I
would like to think San Francisco isn't gonna just end
this entire thing, and the coach and GM, we're not
gonna flee, and that Shanahan's gonna want to come back
and say let's go for this thing again and let's
try to rebuild based on what a disastrous thing that is.
But like, I'm not out of hand, saying Shanahan to
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the Bears is ridiculous. It's unlikely. I would imagine it's
not gonna happen. But this is where we're at and
why the NFL is unlike any other profession. I mean,
Rex Ryan's name was mentioned for the Jets job, and
I couldn't pooh pooh it because I know that wood
he loved Rex and Wood he makes. The hiring Kyle
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Shanahan to the Bear sounds absurd. Why would you leave
San Francisco for Chicago? But then you think about New
Beginnings and Caleb Williams and Wow, to take on that
franchise and bring that and that to prominence, Well, I
don't know. Maybe there's a way that he can get
out of San Francisco. I mentioned Marcus Freeman, and I
was the first with that on Sunday's Fox Show for Chicago,
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and I will stand behind that. I got a lot
of feedback and also a lot of buzz around that report.
No one had reported it up until that point. He's
the head coach of Notre Dame. I think he might
be a candidate as well, and I don't say that
without knowledge of the situation. So that job is interesting,
Jet's job really interesting. I don't know if anyone's reported
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this besides me. I have no indication that Woody Johnson
is actually going to Europe for an ambassador role. From
all I gathered, that job was filled in the UK,
and I have no confirmation or indication that he's taken
another one. What he's got a kid in college, a
kid in high school. I'm not sure what he wants
to go away for four years and be a part
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of the Trump administration. That was assumed that he would
go do that, but I don't have any indication of that.
Jet's job is open. Bear's job is open with an asterisk.
I do think there's a way that Thomas Brown, the
offensive coordinator, well really the guy who was recently promoted
as the interim offense corner an internim head coach, could
possibly win games down the stretch, and he's beloved in
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that building, and he's really well liked by the players,
Like there's a chance that he could still be a candidate.
I don't think Olbrik's a candidate in New York. And
then you have the Saints job. But there are gonna
be other openings. There will be other ones, and it's
gonna get really interesting to see which names pop up,
who's attached to where. And I said it on Bill
Simmons a couple of weeks ago, who everyone just assumes
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Vrabel's getting a job and Belichick's getting a job. Belichick
to the Jaguars sounds like it makes sense, like seod
Con just being like just I don't want to just
just go just do your thing, Vrabel, I don't. I
don't have a team yet. I don't. I don't envision
a world where Rabel's not going to be a head coach.
But there are so many hot coordinators too. So Ben
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Johnson's out there, Joe Brady's having an amazing season. Uh
you go through the names. Cliff Kingsbury, what he's done
with Jayden Daniels has been outstanding, and then there's Jesse
Minter out in LA who has had an out incredible year.
And then an older guy, Todd Todd Munkin, who's been
in oc at Georgia and the Ravens and has rebuilt
both offenses and brought them to to great places. So
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really fun time of the year for us as fans,
really devastating time of the year for the fired coaches
and for coaches on the hot seat. But uh, Bear's
got interesting and that job is very coveted, even with
a lack of success over the last few years. People
see that logo, people see that fan base, and they
look at a team that is actually really good on paper.
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I'd be curious to see how that all plays out
real quick. Great week of football up ahead, some really
good games. I made a comment on Good Morning Football
and I wrote about it for my Fox column. I
believe this is the best Buffalo Bills team we have
ever seen. I say that with confidence. And the nineteen
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ninety team went thirteen and three, went eight, you know
at home, and then rattled through the playoffs before losing
to the Giants. On wide right, they won an AFC
championship game fifty one to three against the La Raiders
that year. I'm watching this Bills team. They get better
and better every week. They're getting healthier and healthier. And
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last week's victory on Sunday night, I know the Niners
came in, you know, banged up, but like in a
previous year, I think the Bills they don't blow them
out thirty five to ten. I don't think they're doing
snow Angels. And I think allan Engagement included is like
as happy as he ever been. And Aaron wan Koff
and my producer, who is a diehard Bills fan, I'm
not jinxing you. I'm not putting the hoax on this team.
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I think in a year where everyone is talking about
Mike Tomlin, Kevin O'Connell. You know, you go through Sean
Payton and I guess who's the other hot name from
Dan Campbell? Like, I think my Coach of the Year
might be Sean McDermott. Considering what they lost and what
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they were expected to be missing with Diggs and Gabe
Davis and Hide and Poyer, I might if I had
to vote right now, I might go MVP Josh Allen.
Coach of the Year Sean McDermott. And for someone who
grew up as a Bills fan during those four Super
Bowl losses, I think this might be the best team
they've ever had.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Oh, they can't. They can't defend the run. Yeah, I'm
not getting too excited.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You watch it every week?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You know, watching CMC in those first couple of runs,
he was incredible every single time. You know, we lost
to the Ravens. Dereck Henry ran all over us. They
will I also think a little bit. I am trying
not to get my hopes up too much. I just
was on the phone with my dad last night when
for a Walk called him. We were talking about the game.
He stayed up for the entire thing. He very rarely
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stays up for the Sunday night game because it's so
late on the East Coast. He stayed up for the
whole thing. He loved it, loved watching it. I'm just,
you know, playing in the in the snow is fun.
It's awesome to see them win. It's awesome to see
that Amari Cooper lateral and Josh you know everyone's oh,
the only quarterback to get a throwing and a receiving touchdown.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Since Brad Johnson.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, I'm just they still have some problems depending.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Listeners are listening this week fourteens that we're at. Yeah,
is this week a classic trap letdown game.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I have a feeling that they will get up for
every game going out because I think they want to
catch Kansas City. I think if they could take that
buy that will mean so much, and so I think
they want to win out, Like, I don't see any
reason why They've got to keep their eye on Detroit
coming up too. So maybe this is a little bit
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of a trap, but I don't know. Yeah, I would
love for.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Them to.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Not stumble and get healthy. I mean, get Kean Coleman back,
get Kincaid back like Knox has been playing. Well, Mac
Collins out of nowhere is suddenly like barefoot. Yeah, I
mean yeah, lying down in the snow, shirtless or whatever.
But yeah, it's good. I was so determined at the
beginning of this year to be okay with them having
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a rebuilding year and just and just.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
They have two losses. They lost when they were all
banged up to the Ravens they got killed, and then
they lost the Texans second. And I think Josh Allen
went like nine to thirty at ACAD and if you
remember it was like Stephan Diggs and him had the
side eye like that Funds like six years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, and that was when everyone was like, oh, Josh
Allen's turning back into who he was rookie year, and
since then it's been completely different.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Le me P. Can we play a clip from the
NBC broadcast. I want to hear the audio of a
report from Melissa Stark about Khalil Shakir talking about Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Khalil Shakir is ready to run through a wall for
his quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And you think I'm kidding.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
No, he told me that if Josh came to him
and said, grab your shield, and sword. We're going to
battle with no other details. He would fall in line
behind him, no questions asked. Khalil said, when your quarterback
is putting his body on the line every single play,
it makes you want to go above and beyond for him.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Josh, all right, So you.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Threw for a touchdown and received a touchdown on the
same play.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Can you walk us through that.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, I threw a bad balls. I was worried I
was going to get tipped up in the air pick,
so I was just kind of chasing it. I made
eye contact with Coope. He's a vet, saw me. I
put my hands out, he tossed it to me, and
they had to.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Make a play.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Is that how they score it? I get a passing
end receiving you do. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And Chris collins Worth is very excited because he started
you on this fantasy team.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I love that, so did I.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Oh, good to hear it. I love that kind of stuff.
It's so cheesy in a way, like I'm gonna take
my sword and my shield and go fight for this man.
But like, I don't think. Melissa like asked him that question, saying, hey, Khalil,
if you had a sword, and a shield. Would you
go fight that? He's bringing that up himself. So they're
all playing Allan's obviously the man Diggs is not there.
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That seems to be auditioned by subtraction personality and whatever
else wise. Uh, right now, if I had to vote,
I think Josh Allen's my MVP and Sean mcdermot's my
coach of the year. All right, let's get to our guest.
I'm so excited to do this because I think he's
hilarious and he's also a smart, knowledgeable fan and also
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played college football at a high level. Joel McHale is
up next. Our guest is one of my favorite people
in the world to watch, to text with, to hear
him on podcasts, and then also to see him talk football,
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which he does quite often on our show Good Morning Football.
And he's great with no further ado, the Seattle Seahawks
fan in my life, mister Joel McHale, what's up, dude?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Go Hawks, Go Hawks, Go Hawks. Event Hold on, I'll
let me. What do you I'll complete it here.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
We're looking, we're looking for memorabilia. What do we have here?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Oh yeah, helmet grow helmet?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Tell me the story of acquiring this helmet. Whose helmet
is it? How'd you get that? And who gifted do this?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I was doing a bit for the Seahawks and I
can't remember what the bit was. And then I was
wearing the helmet and then they said, then I said,
can I have the helmet?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Now?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Went really expensive and I was like, I know, and
then they went, all right, just take the helmet, and
then uh, and so I just carried around the house
like you know, after a game, and my kids are like,
what are you doing. I'm just like, yeah, you know
who it was rough out there, but we we pulled
through guys and yeah. And then you know, when I
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football helmet out of context kind of makes you look insane.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It does. I'm gonna quickly, as a Seahawks fan, rapid
fire some Seahawks questions for you. Then we're gonna get
all stuff, but not trivia or anything. Jim Warn, Jip Torn.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Dave Craig.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Where were you when they won the Super Bowl when
it was in Jersey the day before that horrible blizzard?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I was in.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I was at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You were there, You're you're at the game.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I was at the game, and uh, my wife and
I went and it was I was it was so
great and I think I've never taken heroin. Where's this going?
Where is this going? Peter? I was like, Oh, this
is what it must feel like. I'm so euphoric. I'm
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so happy, and I cried. We were sitting next to
Will Arnett, who, as you know, a famous hockey fan. Yep,
uh and so and he had he was promoting the
Lego Batman movie. So it was this weird group of
people and uh, and he was making fun of me
the whole time. He was like, Joela, looks pretty good, buddy.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And I was like, we didn't get called for icing
one and yeah. So I was there. Where were you?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I was there too. I was on the field. I
was working for Fox Super Bowl. I did all the
postgame interviews. And that's the one was interesting because there
was so much build up and then like within two plays,
Peyton Manning spite us, you know, hikes the ball over
the center, hikes it over his head and you're like, oh,
and then it just the Broncos never had a chance.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah. And then Percy Harvin, who had been hurt all.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Year, opens the second half right after Bruno.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Mars do you what do you when that? Because I
made a joke of a prediction. They were like, what
do you think the final score is going to be?
And I said two to four, just because usually I'm like,
usually i'd be like Broncos thirteen, Seahawks two hundred and six,
and but I said two to four. And then the
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first play was the safety.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Two. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I was like, it's happening and I can't believe it.
And what do you like? Obviously I know all sorts
of people that bet money on football legally or legally
now depending upon what state. But what do you think? What?
What do you think the odds were for the first play?
Like somebody had a bet? Like just like what would
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be the Like, okay, if you put down ten bucks
and the first play is a safety?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Aaron, Aaron, We got to producer Aaron here, Aaron, why
don't you google last year's Super Bowl first scoring play
safety and tell me what the odds are. I would
say it's probably one thousand to one.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah right, yeah, like yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Figure that. I'll tell you my story with that. I
was assigned to the Seahawks all week. Fox Sports one
had just launched cable network for our dear friends at Fox.
We Love Hello, Lachlan and the crew, and I was
working for them.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Look, Animal Control on FI was on Fox, I Get
It Kitchen on Fox.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Fox, and I was assigned to that team. And that
was the year that like Marshawn would and talk to
the media and Michael Robinson was doing all the talking
for him, and I was with them at the hotel.
And I could say the hotel now at the time
it was like top secret location, but it was like
the w in Jersey City. Oh I'm sorry, it was
the Weston in Jersey City. And like around that team
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after they beat Crabtree and the Niners, they were the
most confident, borderline cocky group of guys, like at no
point did they even think they would lose. That Later
we'd find out there was a fight during the week
involving Golden Tate and and Percy Harvin. I don't even
remember the story, but there was something. It doesn't matter.
They kicked the crap out of Peyton Manning and the
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Broncos that day.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It was and I've been on that Monday night football
broadcast between that, which is such a good broadcast. He
his brother and then I brought it up, and I
was like, oh shit, I mean, there were such good
sports and I can't I realize, Oh, this is obviously
like I'm taunting them a little bit. I'm like, I'm
just some fan and I'm like, you were in the game,
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and this is like bringing up.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Like legacy stuff like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Like oh you were in like you were in this beat.
Like if it were me, it would be like you
got in this big, huge movie and you kind of
it didn't really you know, it didn't happen, you know,
and I would I'd be like, oh, I'm not that
he was hurt and any because he's such a in
such a cool guy. But I'm like, what, why am
I being a dick? Yeah? Yeah, he's the light. And
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I was there speaking all right.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So twelve months later, we're in Arizona. Katy Perry's tearing
it up at halftime. Uh was the was the Canadian
Football League wide receiver Chris Matthews has the game of
his life and he's tearing it up and and curse
has the butt catch? Where were you for that whole less?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I was there again with my wife Sarah, standing next
to Meredith Vieira and matt Lower I love it and
and triple h and uh McMahon's daughter. Uh. Yeah. It
was a very again, like an interesting group and it
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was obviously the Patriots. And Meredith Vieira is a huge Patriots.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Fan, is she Okay? I didn't know that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And it was we we I as confident as I
was the year the year before. I was like, oh
my gosh, we're gonna win this year. After that catch,
I was like, we're gonna win. And then it was
like somebody had tied our shoelaces together. And it was
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like my son, who's sixteen now, like whenever we see highlights,
if those come on, he just takes off.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Was he old enough to like appreciate it, because that's
now we're going back ten years now, Like was he
old enough to like be a fan at that point?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
So he was six and I think it was enough.
So he had so been indoctrinated by his parents, like
we were some sort of fundamentalist Mormon cult and I yes, So,
I mean you can imagine walking you were probably there,
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he's there and walking out with the with you know,
walking out with the crowd. I like just stunned, just absolutely,
I'll never forget as half be as I was. There's
just the stunnedness as the year before it was. It
was not good.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It's a it's a it's a great what if? Because
obviously that game is a horrible loss for the Seahawks
and their fans and they haven't been back to Super
Bowl since, and whatever if they had won two straight
and then you go into the next year and your
rolling looking to be the first team ever to go
win three straight. You don't. Then obviously from that all
the stuff with Russ and the defense and Pete and
(24:34):
it all comes undone. But like, it's one of the
great what is It's not just one game to me,
that one that's not just like, uh all right, it's
it's Nick Foles does a Philly special like this one
that could have been the team of the generation, and
that could have been the team of the decade. And
that kind of just was one super Bowl and then
I lost from the Super Bowl. That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
We went, Yes, to get there twice, as you know,
to get there at all, and then to get there
twice in two years, Yes, all those things, and it
felt like Nicholas Cage in The weather Man or whatever
that movie is where he imagines this other life and mean, yeah,
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so yeah, no I go back and so all yeah.
I mean even like I talked to Gronk because he
was on Animal Control, a very nice man, as we've already,
and he was like, oh, I broke your heart, didn't.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
I like, like like I had broken up with someone
and there or they had broken up with me and
they were like, oh I I see it was like
it was was not I wasn't as into the relationship
as you were.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
And I understand how hard that is for you now,
And isn't.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
It Isn't it chilling when you talk to the players
like it's a fan and they're like like they're so
not affected by it, and it's just like, oh, yeah, no,
that was a part of my career, but like you're like, no,
this is like the best day of my life. And
they're like yeah it was, yeah, that's cool, and we
want a super Bowl. That's good.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
And you know he told me when we were shooting
Animal Control, he goes, yeah, I was like because he
we were talking about the past play and everyone's looked
to believe they called that, you know, he said in
the huddle or said like on the sideline, he said Belichick,
And this is why Belichick was brilliant. Belichick said, they
might run something like this, they might try this, and
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so it was in the back of the player's brain
so like they might throw a pass here, and then
it happened, and they were like, that's his sort of
his his amazing ability to predict, you know, like what
could happen? So anyway, it was what it was. It
was yeah, bad, bad, bad times. But the fact that
(26:44):
I can even talk about it is really this counseling
session has gone, well.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, and have you do you have a relationship with
Marshawn or with Russ or with Shirm, Like, do you
have a relationship with those guys from that era?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I text with Russ once in a while, and I
am and everyone's look to believe that good. I'm I
truly am thrilled for him.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Everyone has to be. There's no way his career could
end the way it did in Denver. That's not cool.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
No, And he and his like he's the night like
that dude went to the Seattle Children's Hospital every single
piece and was just so and uh, I don't I've
done a couple of things with Sherman. I'm going on
Marjahn's podcast next week, I believe. And uh, there was
(27:32):
nothing funnier than when he wasn't answering questions and then
he realized he had to say something or he'd get fine,
and he would just go uh huh. And then there
would be posters in Seattle of him like looking off
into the distance and it just said yep, and they
were so funny. Oh yeah he was, and he was
(27:54):
really And you can tell when players are cool to kids,
you can like there, they were always being with my kids.
So that it went along with.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Let's go back to your childhood. Obviously grew up in
Washington State and you were in theater as a high school. Yeah, okay,
so go on tell me and then you.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I was, I was such a bad student, and uh,
the only thing I was good at was chasing a ball.
And like, so I was like a golden retriever of
a human being because of my ADHD and my dyslexia.
So I was just like ball and I would run
after ball. So I played tons of sports and then
(28:43):
I did a couple of plays and I was like, oh,
this is really fun if I can just kind of
because I just thought sports and theater they were kind
of these like people didn't take them.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Oil and water dude, like totally they they really there
was a very I mean, obviously we've had uh, you know,
the guy who played Hunter, and you've had Jim Brown
like there's been, there's been.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I've got a professional sports ability the way they did.
Is Fred Dryer still around?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I love spread Dryer.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Aaron Wang Kaufman. Look up Fred Dryer.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And I'm still waiting on that safety odds question.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, what what kind of are you doing this?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I put the safety odds in the chat?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, it just looks like you're a band
member from Weezer.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, totally. You look like Brian Bell from Weezer. How's
that reference? Everyone goes Rivers Cuomo, I go the bassist.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I already forgot that. You asked me about Fred Dryer too,
So at this point you're not getting that information, but
I got you the safety information.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
It's with us.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I have a chat. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
The chat says odds for a safety in the Super Bowl,
we're plus twelve sixty odds for safety is a first score?
Were plus four thousand. Wow, that's good.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And Fred still living in Los Angeles and he has
a production company.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Okay, Joe, should we do dinner with Fred Dryer next
time I'm out in La.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Do you think he's going to be mad that I
thought he was dead?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
No, I thought he might have been dead too. We
don't hear much from Fred Dryer.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, I mean, he's been retired for thirty years now,
and Hunter.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Is not exactly getting your reboot these days.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
If you get dinner with Fred Dryer, he has excluded
red meat from his diet. So just keep that you're
not taking the mistakes.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
All right, Good, the dinner is off. Dinner is off.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
We'll take Richard Dean Anderson instead.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Richard Who I mean? I guess Joe Namath had a
pretty storied acting career for a what was it Nameth?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah name, it was in things he was in the
more commercials and talk shows. I mean, there's a long
history of uh what was his name, the guy who
was on Mister Belvedere, what was his name?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yes, well this is Alex Karras.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah, and father father Murphy, Uh, you know, from a
little house in the prairie. What's Merlin Olson?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
One of the fearsome foursome a.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Very good football player. See I didn't have the athletic
I was good, but not nothing. You know, I was
never that level.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay, So what plays do you remember? I like the
plays first. What plays were you in?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Oh? The first play I was ever in was in
hadd And Field, New Jersey. I was raised in Seattle,
but we lived for two years in New Jersey, and uh,
this was the play and I'm not kidding it's it
was a Disney Uh, the theatrical adaptation of the ride
It's a Small World. So again, that's how the indoctrination,
(31:55):
how early it began was we we did It was
like a play in a book. And then they were like,
you're gonna be wearing later hosen. Yeah yeah. And I
was like, and then you're a snake charmer and it's
I'm sure I can't imagine how culturally insensitive it is.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I'm sure it's it's it's been canceled twenty years ago.
My question is is that like an original or is
that something that other high schools were probably doing or
did your theater teacher say I'm whipping up one bay.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I'm saying second grade that was this is I don't know,
I don't know how yeah, no, no, yeah. In high
school we were already Oh in high school, we felt
we were doing important work. Yeah, we were like we're
doing waiting for good do, but this time we're skipping
(32:47):
every other word. And I did ibsen in college. Look
at our Baron Wang Kaufman, a lady from the sea
running an exciting play go rid of dolls house.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
It's a real, real happy one.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
So I was good at that and terrible at school.
And uh so my mom, who was a newspaper editor,
two of her three sons were full dyslexics, which was
a real joke from God, which was like, you have
someone who is so good at grammar and spelling and arrangement,
and then you have this yea who. It really accentuates
(33:28):
it when you're wearing a football helmet, and uh you
have this ya who and who. Yeah. So I I
kind of did that through great. Then I moved to Seattle,
and I did all the sports I could, and uh
then I just kept doing theater with these two friends
of mine, Dominic, our three friends Dominic Delao, Ethan Sandler,
(33:48):
and John Atkins, who are all uh two of those
three guys are are in the business. One of the actors, Yeah,
one of them is, he's Ethan's gonna be on American
Horror Story. And John Yeah, and John is a very
prolific musician. He was in a band called and six
four Hero that did opened for Modest Mouse for years
(34:10):
and years and years and if you look up them,
they're a storied Seattle band. And then, uh, Dominic Delo
played man Kiny on the Suit for twelve years. Uh,
so we're it's going He moved back to Seattle, so
he kind of retired, but I I would hire him
in a second if you would do it. And uh,
but so yeah, we did. We all did theater and
(34:31):
the two of the three of us did. Uh, two
of the four, three of the four of the sports.
Ethan was the captain of our of the Mercer Island
freshman football team, like legit.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So then you were you were doing both. But then,
I mean, I see these footage, these pictures of you
as a tight end wearing a University of Washington jersey
in front of the Rose Bowl and you're jacked and
you're on the actual rose ball team. So how did
you make the leap from high school to like playing
at Washington. That's legit.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I tricked as I I just tricked everybody all the time. Uh,
just like acting.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
No.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Well, Don James was our coach and had a very
active well, you know, one of the greatest coaches in
the Husky history, and he was he had a very
active walk on program which he wanted fresh blood to
always be there, to always be pushing the scholarship players,
and it kept fresh meat and cannon fodder firing at them.
(35:30):
And then you know, there was some real gems in
that like John Fiala, who became the captain of the
Steelers way back when he was a walk on and anyway,
so I was a walk on, but I just would
nail skit night. I mean like they were like that.
(35:51):
You were funny who was on that.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Who was on that Washington team? Because I mean Ernie Cronwell, right,
was on that team.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Conwell was, Yes, he went on to the Rams of
Saint Louis and Mark Brunell who storied quarterback. Damon Heward
was on that team. Dave Hoffman who was an All
American linebacker, his brother Steve Hoffman. Lincoln Kennedy I came
in at right after Steve MPMan.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, Mario Bailey the receiver of course, Napoleon Kaufman who
went to the Raiders and did well and then retired early.
There was Let's lawyer Malloy was on that team.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Bro Y are legends and like when you when you
show up on the soup are they like what the like?
Did they or did you? Guys keep into like that's
incredible that you were with all these guys and then
you get one of the most coveted jobs like in comedy.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Well, I think there were more. If it were me,
I would be more confused and or they would be like,
well that's about right for that guy. Okay, it wasn't
like it wasn't he was like it was like showtime
when I walked on the football field and I'm all
taped uff, but I've got the stuff under my eyes
(37:06):
ready to go. There was more. I was on the
Scout offense, which would play against you know, the the
best players in college football defense at the time, So
I think they were when I talk to them now,
like because I am friends with Dave Hoffman and Damon
Hewart and Mark Brunner also was on that team and Ernie.
(37:27):
They both worked for the NFL. I think Bruner works
for the Steelers, I think, And uh, so they're they're
very nice and and very cool. I'm actually gonna see
Damon Hubert tomorrow. And so yeah, no, believe me, if
you had said that that this is how it would
work out, I would be like this that I don't
(37:47):
know like that the fact that they like they started
giving Oh, DeMarco Farr was on that team.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
And Ernie last week because they honored the ninety nine
Rams at halftime of the Rams versus Eagles game.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
That's in that so and it's so they Yeah, they
were extremely nice and I think ESPN or was it
ESPN there we was this or maybe a Sports Illustrated
did these things? These things called like were they actually good?
And they were very diplomatic about how they answered it.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
It was very talking about like.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
They were like, he was a very nice guy and
very fun don't think. I don't know if that was you.
I was like, yeah, that's what people are known for,
you know.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
He was funny.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, it wasn't like his speed in his hands were incredible.
He was nobody had better like like on field intelligence. No, no, no,
he just he had a really good touchdown routine.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
All right, you know, I geek out on the comedy stuff.
So you go from college to this then commercials. I
want to say, if I remember listening to an interview
on four. But then you get this incredible opportunity to
take over one of the you know, the hallmarks of
the network, but also one of the great shows of
the nineties, the Soup, which was Talk Sup originally take
(39:10):
us through. How did that even come to be?
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I well, I lived in I got married in Seattle,
and lived in Seattle as an actor, and I'm my
wife is still agreeing to be married to me, thank you, Sarah,
And it's been thirty years. What the hell is together? Thirty?
But I got on a show there, well in Seattle
(39:34):
called Almost Live right out of college, which started like
Bill nya science guy's career. It was a locally produced
catch comedy show. And I was on there and kind
of learned how to be bad as not bad. But
I was like so scared and intimidates. Yeah, and they
were so nice about kind of taking care of me
(39:56):
and letting me screw up teleprompter because I was so
dyslexic and nervous. And then I went to graduate school
for acting in Seattle at the University of Washington Go
and then we moved to LA and I said to
my wife, just give me five years to try and
make this work. And that's couldn't get an agent. I
(40:18):
couldn't get an agent that would send me on television auditions,
but I could get I got a commercial agent AKA,
which is a great agency here, and they started sending
me out of commercials and that started working. And then
this woman named Annie Roberts who just finished casting like
retired from E recently and now works for Netflix. She
(40:39):
saw me in commercials and would bring me into E
things like one hundred and one Celebrity Oops and which
were kind of like best week ever. This is for
those of you young kids listening, go look it up.
And then she said, you want to audition for this.
This it's the new version of talk soup where's not
(41:00):
And they were like, we're not gonna call it that,
but you're we're gonna make fun of reality.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
TV, right, and it was blowing up like this is
because they used to be toxic, would do the daytime
talk shows. Yes, show was we're gonna make fun of
Flavor Flave and we're gonna make fun of.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Joe Millionaire yep, yeah, and uh, Survivor like these there
was these like Survivor big shows and then there's Flavor
Flav who became a huge and then like Whitney Houston
of course, and the real world was still going and
it was still and then the real world was figuring
out just put insane people on and there it was
(41:36):
this open frontier and it was the We had perfect
timing and kind of hitting that because there was like
RuPaul's Drag Race was the dirtiest show on television, and
there was things we couldn't even show and there I
was like, they're on regular cable, why can't we do that?
And yeah, they were like, we just can't and uh
and then we then they made fun They let us
make fun of the Kardashians who had just started on E.
(41:58):
And it was this tiny little show on E and
it obviously it worked out and uh and so it
was this wonderful open frontier of and nobody watched the
show for a year and Ted Harbert, who was the president,
liked the show, so he kept it on. So we
just crowned and it was I was so lucky because
(42:21):
I got used to say the reading teleprompter and doing
what I know, they're just kind of telling jokes. I
was like, I don't know, we'll try this one and yeah, boy.
And that was five years in or four years in.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
And so Annie Roberts, who's the executive you give credit to,
she watched your tapes from the scene comedy or the commercials.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
She saw me on commercials. I know, yeah, I didn't
have any I don't have any tape, but nobody cared.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
But I would imagine the job like everyone in the groundlings,
everyone in Second City. I'm sure everyone was trying out
for this.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I know the two. I know who it was narrowed
down to, and one of them was a friend of
mine named Matt Corboy, who is who is super funny,
and I to this day I'm like, why didn't he
get it?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
He's yeah, he's.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Great, and and so we yes, I think that there
was a very long there was a he was it
took like six months to get the job. And that
wasn't because they were seeing the world. It was just
because he didn't. They were kind of, you know, very nonchalant.
And then when they put us on and saw how
cheap it was. At first, They're like, ten, there was
(43:35):
a time kids, when programming the actual day really mattered.
In ten o'clock on a Friday night was a desert.
It was a dead zone.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
On ABC with you downs.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yeah, and they were like, hey, you beat a rerun
of Sex in the City, and I'd be like, thank you,
thank you so much and uh. And then it slowly
started started working. And that was twelve years of my life.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Twelve years. And I've been doing Good Morning Football for
nine years and I like it's yesterday over those twelve years.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Obviously that and that's why Good Morning Football. So, I mean,
you got, you know, the combination of you guys and
the comedy, the fact that you guys put so much
humor into it, and it's so important because boy is
something there. People can rattle off all the facts and
everything that happened, but you can't intelligently make fun of
(44:32):
it and be be funny. It's who cares.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
It also helps that Kyle and I can rattle off
Mother love Bone references just like we do Eric Dickerson references.
We go on culture. It's like you go sports and
you're a.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Lot better than me and you know, mother love.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Bone, that's the attle. Let's go all right. So then
the Soup obviously is this huge hit and then you're
on one of the biggest comedies of the era in community.
How does that happen?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Well that it wasn't the biggest comedy.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Oh here though, and then now considered like it became.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, we ate. We were like cheese and or or
a festering wound. We just kept growing and bothering people
to the point where they're like, we cannot not pay attention.
At the time Glee, we came at the same year
as Glee, and they broke the record for Emmy nominations
and they had a big sign and they were also
a paramount and the big sign that said like sixteen
(45:30):
Emmy nominations in our said community zero Emmy nominations and yes,
so that we were. I got on that show because
I was on E and it was owned by Comcast,
and I read the script and asked if I was like,
I want if I can get in this audition and
Dan Harmon's girlfriend at the time, who was a Soup fan,
(45:54):
and she was like, oh, you got to see that guy,
and uh so I once again got extremely lucky for
getting that the chance to audition for it, and then
you know, and then Donald Glover's career really tanked after that.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
That was it. That was the height, that was.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
That was it was so it uh it Yeah. No,
at the time, we were going to be canceled every
single season we were on isn't and then we were
Then we were picked up by Yahoo Screen, which was
a very short lived streaming service, literally a two year
long streaming service. And then when they went down, they
(46:33):
blamed us, which I can take. It's like I can
take credit for taking down a streaming service. So I'm
just thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Our producer, Aaron wang Kaufman, who you've been so kind
to since you joined the podcast, is a die hard
Community fan and wanted to pepper you with one question.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Go for it, yes, Aaron, so Joel, I actually changed
my question. I have three scripts in front of me.
I have It's a Small World, I have The Lady
from the Sea, and I have Community. I'm going to
read you a line and you tell me which project
that was from. All right, okay, here we go. This
is yeah, this is a quiz for you. Character one.
I was flying home to Neverland, and I was listening
(47:15):
out for all the music that I always love to
hear when I'm flying home, but I couldn't hear anything.
Pinocchio's house was nearby, so I stopped off to see
if he knew what was going on. Is that it's
a small world? Is that lady by the sea from
the sea, or is that community?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I don't think Ibsen did a lot of lying. It
was just a lot of like, uh, there's a lot.
There was a lot that would have been the last
thought of the grandma who was dying in a chair
for the entire play. Uh. So, obviously it's either community
(47:52):
or it's a small world. And I'm just gonna say
it's community.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Because that's from the very famous Disney spoof episode that
you guys did. No, that's that's the world.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah, but you know, I wouldn't put it past our
playmation episode that if Abed had said that.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Do you uh? If you had obviously you guys had
so many great genre spoofs. If you guys were doing
like a draft day spoof, who within the study group
is going to be the GM, who's going to be
the coach, who's going to be you know, the president
of the team. Who's going to be going.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
I would have to go back between two thousand and
nine and twenty fifteen. But right now, that's a good question. Well,
we'd have to have Peter and Kyle Long of course.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
They teaching a class at Green or.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
They were like murderers loose in the school for some reason. Yeah,
And then I, jeez, I think we would try to well,
it's a good I think we try to get like,
I don't know, like Roger Federer to come in with
a thick Swiss accent and and uh and he would
(49:08):
I don't know, he would probably be our Tom Brady boy.
And then oh boy, and you will yet Flavor Flay.
You know, we referenced flavor.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
That's it, all right, community aside. Obviously, I've had this
amazing career. And then I'm at the Super Bowl a
couple of years ago, and I'm in this random group
with Paul Rudd and his kid and Baby Face and
his kid, and we're at Pizzeria Bianco. And then I
see the biggest smile I could ever imagine, and it's
Joel McHale with Gordon Ramsay walking through the door. Now
(49:41):
you're part of the Fox Family and you're on these shows.
You got two shows. Now take us through how you
got embedded into the Fox world and then how awesome
these two programs are?
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Oh? Well that you know again, I cannot believe my
when they came to me with Crime Scene Kitchen because
I do love food and I talk about it and
there were I got this new idea and you do
you want to host it? And I was this was
after boy, this is like three years or it is
(50:11):
right before the pandemic, and uh I that they were
just they made me the offer, which I was like absolutely.
And Curtis Stone, who as the chef I always wanted
to know, Uh he's a cool a cool guy, the
coolest guy and a genius. And then you'll landa gamp
who basically started the whole is it cake phenomenon. Go
(50:35):
on her Instagram and go back ten years and she's
already been like is this a pair of shoes or
a cake? And then he says it's cake. And so
that was that's how I got in on that. And
then Animal Control came up, which happened to be at Fox,
and they were like, do you want to play this
old man? This curmudgeonty old man. I was like, yes,
(50:58):
and so that I got again, so lucky, and they've
been really cool and allowing me to tell my silly
jokes and yeah, they've been They I Fox, you know,
like to be on the same network as the Simpsons,
you know, or Bob's Burgers.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
I was like, oh, with children, let's go.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
Yeah. And then I got to, you know, hang out
with Gordon one the another extremely kind and possibly the
most intense man I've ever met.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
But bro, how how smooth is he walked in this restaurant.
This is like the smoothest cat I've ever seen. And
then he's at the super Bowl the next day and
he's on the field and I'm walking with Sean payton
Field like a big shot, and Gordon Ramsey's there and
I'm like, Okay, that's the coolest guy in the building
right there. That's him.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
He's that. Yeah. It was like jay Z and Gordon
Ramsey's rotting along and my my I brought my son
and Chaer was in the box next to us. Cool
and he was way more impressed with Gordon Ramsey.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
All right, So so they they have a Fox Super
Bowl this year. I assume I'm not going to make
any assumptions, but I hope you're there. I hope.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
I think I've already started the campaign. I was like,
maybe I can't hide in the wheel well of the Hagen.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
We'll be Hagen. We'll do that, but they I'll take
you back. A couple of months ago, probably before the season,
I saw a jelly Roll for like the fifth time
in concert. I love this guy. And I go on
Good Morning Football, NFL Network show and I'm like, jelly
Roll should do halftime. Everyone loves jelly Roll jelly rolls.
And I got a text from someone that knows these things.
It's like, it's not gonna be jelly rolling, Like General
(52:31):
pres shouldn't do halftime. Like that's just not really, Like
it's not the best thing. I think you should host
NFL Honors on Fox this year, and it's been Keegan
Michael Key in recent years, it's been Steve Harvey before that,
it's on Fox. Joel Am, I am, I am, I
barking up the wrong tree here.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Can I make terrible news for you? It's Kendrick Lamar.
I'm available. I'm happy to do.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
I want this. I feel like you'd be so funny.
I would work on your writing team. We would take
the piss every I mean, no one's made a joke
about Belichick dating a twenty four year old until we
do it on NFL Honors.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
How is that off limits?
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Like taboo or something? It's real, guys. He's out there,
he's posing as a fisherman holding a woman as a mermaid,
and we're not allowed to joke about it.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
How he's not Is he work? Is he he's not employed? Right?
Is he employed?
Speaker 1 (53:30):
He works for every media company and he's on NFL
Films and NFL Network. So I guess maybe we're not
supposed to it's a it's a fun story. I think
he would laugh.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
And I'm you know, he seems to be happy. I mean, sure,
it's crazy, but uh, if you had said this ten
years ago, we'd be like, he's going to be dating
a woman who is uh currently in grade school?
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Yeah, we would say that's that's that's a story to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
Yeah, all right, I mean that's my push. He was
always very sexy on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Unbelievable. All right, So I will talk to my sources
at the NFL you tube, I'm your sources at Fox
I'm in. I would like you hosting that. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Who's there? The Kelly Clarkson hosted and she killed She
was great.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
She was great. That was a really good one. That
was good. That was in La. I want to say
that was where that was?
Speaker 3 (54:20):
That was in Arizona, Arizona.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
It was Arizona. You're right, Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
I think Jim Brown I think that was his last appearance,
and I think Kyle Kyle had a run up down
the aisles streaming.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
We laughed about that in the green room, you me
and Kyle afterwards, and I think Jim Brown passed like
a couple of years later, and I was like, it
might have been the last time we saw Jim Brown.
Was you yelling angry runs in his face? That might
have done it?
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Oh? How killed it? That was good?
Speaker 1 (54:47):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
Now that's good. All right, I'm in if I can
wear this outfit hosting.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah, that's good. You're the man.
Speaker 7 (54:54):
I appreciate it, Uhawk, you and you are look just
I remember when you guys first mentioned my name on
Good Morning Football and I was in.
Speaker 3 (55:06):
I was doing push ups and I was like, Oh,
this is what it's like to be on drugs because
I was like, this shouldn't be happening. And then I
I was so well speaking of honored, I was just
guy like getting to know you, Peter.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
You're the man. I love that. I love that we
could do this. I love that you came on here
and you spent a full hour both with me. Joe McHale,
go one more time. Give us the shows and what
times they're on another premiere.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
Animal Yeah, Animal Control starts January second. Crime Scene Kitchen
is on right now. I think there's two episodes left.
They're both on Hulu, so you can catch up on
Hulu and uh and then and you can catch up
and it's a I look, I've been on a lot
of not great shows. Crime Scene Kitchen is a great show,
and then Animal Control is a lot of fun and
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it's a guy. I really love it. It's really fun.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
It's cool. And you had Gronk as a special guest
in one of these things.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
We'll be on our super Bowl week episode, so he's
for me.
Speaker 6 (56:11):
Great.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Joe mccal thank you, dude, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
Go Hawks having me. Go Hawks.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Love Joe McHale. I love laughing on on a podcast here.
It's nice to have some levity. He's incredible and his
Seahawks have a big one against the Cardinals this weekend.
But let's talk about last week real quick, because it's
the season with Peter Shaker's delivering results presented by our
sponsors at Uber Eats, and we give out an award
presented to the player or the team that delivered in
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the biggest of moments, and I'm giving it to Russell
Wilson who had four hundred and fourteen passing yards and
three touchdowns and a shootout with Joe Burrow last week.
And just as we were ready to jump off the
Steelers bandwagon when they lost to the Browns in the snow,
they come back the following week and they put up
forty four points and they should. They do have the
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offensive firepower to compete in the AFC with the Heavies,
the Bills, and the Chiefs. Russell Wilson, his best game
as a Steeler, put up huge yards, the first time
a Steelers quarterback has thrown from more than four hundred
yards in three touchdowns since Big bended it in twenty eighteen.
And now Russ has another big game against those same
Browns that beat them in Cleveland about two weeks ago.
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That's gonna be Sunday, and I am excited to see
how that goes down. That was delivering results presented by
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all the folks in LA who work for NFL Media,
and on behalf of the iHeart team who By the way,
I believe I can announce this, Aaron, I am taking
my son Mel. We're gonna go to the jingle Ball
next week. iHeart jingle Balls. See one hundred I believe
is sponsoring it. And it's at Madison Garden and it's
shaboozy and it's that uh Tate McCrae and Gray Abram
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who And I want to say, Benson, what's his name?
Brendan Boone? Berinson Boone. He's got that, He's got a
good one. He's got a good song on the radio.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
Benson Boone.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
He's got a few of them this summer.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
And twenty one Pilots.
Speaker 3 (58:32):
The twenty one.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
Piots is different than twenty one Savage, and I'm disappointed.
I like twenty one Savage, twenty one Pilots. I can't
think of a single song of theirs off the top
of my head. They rock, They're like an alt rock
pop band. I thought I was getting twenty one Savage.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
That would be.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
Perform with Shane Gillis so Startingly Live last year and
he was, oh, oh wow, yes, yeah, So I'm going
to jingle ball. I think if my son's not up
for it, then we won't be going. Always be eating
the tickets, and I apologize to our friends at iHeart.
We'll see I don't want to drinx in it. We'll
see it's next week, so we could preview the Maybe
we'll get one of those artists on next week. Can
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we get Katie Perry.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
Or Shaboozi on we can look into that will.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
Promote Iheart's jingle and we'll do a day in New
York with I don't know if Katy Perry wants to
come in studio, she can sounds likely, Isaiah likely. All
right on that note, have a good week, everybody, The
Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the NFL
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Good Morning Fall on the NFL Networks every morning from
eight to ten Eastern and up on the Fox NFL
Kickoff show on Sunday mornings at eleven am Eastern. But
my pride and enjoy right now this podcast, and we've
got a good guest today, Joe McHale's gonna tain us hilarious.
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He's also on about sixteen different shows for Fox right now.
We're gonna get mchaelan in a moment. But before we
talk about his career, his thew I want to talk
about the Bears and what went down those twenty four
hours Thursday and Friday and break it down and then
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kind of take it from there, all right, So they
lose in historic fashion, crazy, you know, discombobulated play. And
then Mattibraflus was a press conference afterwards, and you could
tell he's still frazzled by the whole thing, and he's like,
I liked what we had. I liked it. So it's
like the third or fourth different press conference they lost
at the end where eber Flus has had some head
scratching stuff, and then we turned the TV off because
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that Cowboys Giants game. I don't know. That's when you
eat and then you watch the Packers game at night
and you're like, all right, what's gonna happen tomorrow in Chicago.
Here's my perspective on the whole thing. I'm hosting Good
Morning Football Friday morning, but I got an alert saying
iber Flus is talking to the media at nine am
Central time. Good Morning Football is from eight to ten Eastern,
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So as our show is ending, I knew there was
gonna be an eber Flus press conference. I said to
the producers, I said, guys, keep an eye on that.
If they have the press conference, it means he's kept
his job. They're not going to bring him out there
and trot him out there to do a media session
the next day after that loss and then fire him.
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But if there's an alert at some point that that
media session has been moved has been pushed back, he's fired.
He's done. So I'm watching the clock like a hawk,
and I'm checking my emails and all my texts to
see if the Matt Eberflus Friday morning media session is
being moved. I have done this for a long time.
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They do not trot the coach out there for a
press conference the day after a loss and then fire
him after. It doesn't happen. It's just not a coordinating thing.
Ten Am Eastern happens. Good Morning Football goes off the
air and there's Matt Eberflus on a zoom getting grilled
for twenty minutes by local reporters, taking the bullets and
(02:57):
talking about the game against San Francisco next week. Like, Wow,
the mccaskeys really really do not like firing people mid season.
And Ryan Poles, I don't know if it's a credit
to him or it's a loyalty to Iberflus or what,
but like, if ever there was a window the fans
would understand, you could have fired him, but they didn't,
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and he'll coach another week and we'll see what the
story goes. Literally twenty minutes later, I get a text
from a source Iberflus fired. I'm like, what so the
Bears and it's McCaskey. It's Kevin Warren. Kevin Warren was
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the big ten commissioner. Then he was the president of
the Vikings, and now he's the president of the Bears,
and the stadium is the big story with the Bears
and Kevin Warren, and that's gonna be his big, you know,
obvious talking and mission for the next few years. And
it's polls the GM. And the way I heard it
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was that Iberflus's press conference was scheduled, but they had
at the same time a meeting scheduled with the owner
of the president, and the general manager to discuss the
future of the head coach. They had not decided or
determined the head coach's future or fate before that meeting.
But as they hammered it around and they talked about it,
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they said, Okay, we're gonna fire him. My thing is,
can you not move that meeting with the owner, the
president and the GM two hours earlier given the circumstances.
I know, Thanksgiving is a special time, and I know
everyone flew back. I just felt that was unfair to
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Matt Eberflus. So they fired Eberflus. And then on Monday morning,
Kevin Warren and Ryan Poles do a press conference and Warren,
who I didn't hear anyone saying that Poles's job was
in jeopardy. It's like, I just want to make it
clear that Ryan Poles, the GM's job is not in
jeopardy and he's our guy. And I'm like, this shirt
sounds like a vote confidence when no one's really asking.
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I mean, I don't think anyone was wondering whether Ryan
Pouls is gonna keep his job. Ryan Poles drafted Caleb
and made that incredible trade to get not only that pick,
but DJ Moore. And it's the press conference on Monday
was head scratching. Also, fast forward to today and it's Thursday,
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and at this job opening, you're gonna hear every name mentioned.
And one of the names that keeps popping up is
Kyle Shanahan's name. And let me just lay my cards
on the table. I don't think Kyle Shanahan's being fired
by the San Francisco forty nine ers. I don't. I
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don't think John Lynch is being fired by the forty
nine ers. Mike Florio is a reporter for NBC Sports
and Pro Football Talk. Mike Florio over the years has
broken a lot of Niners stories. Mike Florio is very
plugged in and he has done a bit of a
media tour, so I'm on eyes in him on I
think Dan Patrick I saw him on his own show,
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being like, I'm not so sure Shanahan's coming back to
San Francisco after this disastrous year. This is the beauty
of coach hiring season. You can get names like Vrabel
attached to the Jets, you can get names like Shanahan
attached to the Bears, and I can't say no to
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any of it because I have seen crazier happen. I
would like to think San Francisco isn't gonna just end
this entire thing, and the coach and GM, we're not
gonna flee, and that Shanahan's gonna want to come back
and say let's go for this thing again and let's
try to rebuild based on what a disastrous thing that is.
But like, I'm not out of hand, saying Shanahan to
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the Bears is ridiculous. It's unlikely. I would imagine it's
not gonna happen. But this is where we're at and
why the NFL is unlike any other profession. I mean,
Rex Ryan's name was mentioned for the Jets job, and
I couldn't pooh pooh it because I know that wood
he loved Rex and Wood he makes. The hiring Kyle
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Shanahan to the Bear sounds absurd. Why would you leave
San Francisco for Chicago? But then you think about New
Beginnings and Caleb Williams and Wow, to take on that
franchise and bring that and that to prominence, Well, I
don't know. Maybe there's a way that he can get
out of San Francisco. I mentioned Marcus Freeman, and I
was the first with that on Sunday's Fox Show for Chicago,
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and I will stand behind that. I got a lot
of feedback and also a lot of buzz around that report.
No one had reported it up until that point. He's
the head coach of Notre Dame. I think he might
be a candidate as well, and I don't say that
without knowledge of the situation. So that job is interesting,
Jet's job really interesting. I don't know if anyone's reported
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this besides me. I have no indication that Woody Johnson
is actually going to Europe for an ambassador role. From
all I gathered, that job was filled in the UK,
and I have no confirmation or indication that he's taken
another one. What he's got a kid in college, a
kid in high school. I'm not sure what he wants
to go away for four years and be a part
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of the Trump administration. That was assumed that he would
go do that, but I don't have any indication of that.
Jet's job is open. Bear's job is open with an asterisk.
I do think there's a way that Thomas Brown, the
offensive coordinator, well really the guy who was recently promoted
as the interim offense corner an internim head coach, could
possibly win games down the stretch, and he's beloved in
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that building, and he's really well liked by the players,
Like there's a chance that he could still be a candidate.
I don't think Olbrik's a candidate in New York. And
then you have the Saints job. But there are gonna
be other openings. There will be other ones, and it's
gonna get really interesting to see which names pop up,
who's attached to where. And I said it on Bill
Simmons a couple of weeks ago, who everyone just assumes
(09:01):
Vrabel's getting a job and Belichick's getting a job. Belichick
to the Jaguars sounds like it makes sense, like seod
Con just being like just I don't want to just
just go just do your thing, Vrabel, I don't. I
don't have a team yet. I don't. I don't envision
a world where Rabel's not going to be a head coach.
But there are so many hot coordinators too. So Ben
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Johnson's out there, Joe Brady's having an amazing season. Uh
you go through the names. Cliff Kingsbury, what he's done
with Jayden Daniels has been outstanding, and then there's Jesse
Minter out in LA who has had an out incredible year.
And then an older guy, Todd Todd Munkin, who's been
in oc at Georgia and the Ravens and has rebuilt
both offenses and brought them to to great places. So
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really fun time of the year for us as fans,
really devastating time of the year for the fired coaches
and for coaches on the hot seat. But uh, Bear's
got interesting and that job is very coveted, even with
a lack of success over the last few years. People
see that logo, people see that fan base, and they
look at a team that is actually really good on paper.
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I'd be curious to see how that all plays out
real quick. Great week of football up ahead, some really
good games. I made a comment on Good Morning Football
and I wrote about it for my Fox column. I
believe this is the best Buffalo Bills team we have
ever seen. I say that with confidence. And the nineteen
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ninety team went thirteen and three, went eight, you know
at home, and then rattled through the playoffs before losing
to the Giants. On wide right, they won an AFC
championship game fifty one to three against the La Raiders
that year. I'm watching this Bills team. They get better
and better every week. They're getting healthier and healthier. And
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last week's victory on Sunday night, I know the Niners
came in, you know, banged up, but like in a
previous year, I think the Bills they don't blow them
out thirty five to ten. I don't think they're doing
snow Angels. And I think allan Engagement included is like
as happy as he ever been. And Aaron wan Koff
and my producer, who is a diehard Bills fan, I'm
not jinxing you. I'm not putting the hoax on this team.
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I think in a year where everyone is talking about
Mike Tomlin, Kevin O'Connell. You know, you go through Sean
Payton and I guess who's the other hot name from
Dan Campbell? Like, I think my Coach of the Year
might be Sean McDermott. Considering what they lost and what
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they were expected to be missing with Diggs and Gabe
Davis and Hide and Poyer, I might if I had
to vote right now, I might go MVP Josh Allen.
Coach of the Year Sean McDermott. And for someone who
grew up as a Bills fan during those four Super
Bowl losses, I think this might be the best team
they've ever had.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Oh, they can't. They can't defend the run. Yeah, I'm
not getting too excited.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You watch it every week?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You know, watching CMC in those first couple of runs,
he was incredible every single time. You know, we lost
to the Ravens. Dereck Henry ran all over us. They
will I also think a little bit. I am trying
not to get my hopes up too much. I just
was on the phone with my dad last night when
for a Walk called him. We were talking about the game.
He stayed up for the entire thing. He very rarely
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stays up for the Sunday night game because it's so
late on the East Coast. He stayed up for the
whole thing. He loved it, loved watching it. I'm just,
you know, playing in the in the snow is fun.
It's awesome to see them win. It's awesome to see
that Amari Cooper lateral and Josh you know everyone's oh,
the only quarterback to get a throwing and a receiving touchdown.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Since Brad Johnson.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, I'm just they still have some problems depending.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Listeners are listening this week fourteens that we're at. Yeah,
is this week a classic trap letdown game.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I have a feeling that they will get up for
every game going out because I think they want to
catch Kansas City. I think if they could take that
buy that will mean so much, and so I think
they want to win out, Like, I don't see any
reason why They've got to keep their eye on Detroit
coming up too. So maybe this is a little bit
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of a trap, but I don't know. Yeah, I would
love for.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Them to.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Not stumble and get healthy. I mean, get Kean Coleman back,
get Kincaid back like Knox has been playing. Well, Mac
Collins out of nowhere is suddenly like barefoot. Yeah, I
mean yeah, lying down in the snow, shirtless or whatever.
But yeah, it's good. I was so determined at the
beginning of this year to be okay with them having
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a rebuilding year and just and just.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
They have two losses. They lost when they were all
banged up to the Ravens they got killed, and then
they lost the Texans second. And I think Josh Allen
went like nine to thirty at ACAD and if you
remember it was like Stephan Diggs and him had the
side eye like that Funds like six years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, and that was when everyone was like, oh, Josh
Allen's turning back into who he was rookie year, and
since then it's been completely different.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Le me P. Can we play a clip from the
NBC broadcast. I want to hear the audio of a
report from Melissa Stark about Khalil Shakir talking about Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Khalil Shakir is ready to run through a wall for
his quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And you think I'm kidding.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
No, he told me that if Josh came to him
and said, grab your shield, and sword. We're going to
battle with no other details. He would fall in line
behind him, no questions asked. Khalil said, when your quarterback
is putting his body on the line every single play,
it makes you want to go above and beyond for him.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Josh, all right, So you.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Threw for a touchdown and received a touchdown on the
same play.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Can you walk us through that.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, I threw a bad balls. I was worried I
was going to get tipped up in the air pick,
so I was just kind of chasing it. I made
eye contact with Coope. He's a vet, saw me. I
put my hands out, he tossed it to me, and
they had to.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Make a play.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Is that how they score it? I get a passing
end receiving you do. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And Chris collins Worth is very excited because he started
you on this fantasy team.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I love that, so did I.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Oh, good to hear it. I love that kind of stuff.
It's so cheesy in a way, like I'm gonna take
my sword and my shield and go fight for this man.
But like, I don't think. Melissa like asked him that question, saying, hey, Khalil,
if you had a sword, and a shield. Would you
go fight that? He's bringing that up himself. So they're
all playing Allan's obviously the man Diggs is not there.
(15:35):
That seems to be auditioned by subtraction personality and whatever
else wise. Uh, right now, if I had to vote,
I think Josh Allen's my MVP and Sean mcdermot's my
coach of the year. All right, let's get to our guest.
I'm so excited to do this because I think he's
hilarious and he's also a smart, knowledgeable fan and also
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played college football at a high level. Joel McHale is
up next. Our guest is one of my favorite people
in the world to watch, to text with, to hear
him on podcasts, and then also to see him talk football,
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which he does quite often on our show Good Morning Football.
And he's great with no further ado, the Seattle Seahawks
fan in my life, mister Joel McHale, what's up, dude?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Go Hawks, Go Hawks, Go Hawks. Event Hold on, I'll
let me. What do you I'll complete it here.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
We're looking, we're looking for memorabilia. What do we have here?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Oh yeah, helmet grow helmet?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Tell me the story of acquiring this helmet. Whose helmet
is it? How'd you get that? And who gifted do this?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I was doing a bit for the Seahawks and I
can't remember what the bit was. And then I was
wearing the helmet and then they said, then I said,
can I have the helmet?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Now?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Went really expensive and I was like, I know, and
then they went, all right, just take the helmet, and
then uh, and so I just carried around the house
like you know, after a game, and my kids are like,
what are you doing. I'm just like, yeah, you know
who it was rough out there, but we we pulled
through guys and yeah. And then you know, when I
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football helmet out of context kind of makes you look insane.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It does. I'm gonna quickly, as a Seahawks fan, rapid
fire some Seahawks questions for you. Then we're gonna get
all stuff, but not trivia or anything. Jim Warn, Jip Torn.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Dave Craig.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Where were you when they won the Super Bowl when
it was in Jersey the day before that horrible blizzard?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I was in.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I was at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You were there, You're you're at the game.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I was at the game, and uh, my wife and
I went and it was I was it was so
great and I think I've never taken heroin. Where's this going?
Where is this going? Peter? I was like, Oh, this
is what it must feel like. I'm so euphoric. I'm
(18:18):
so happy, and I cried. We were sitting next to
Will Arnett, who, as you know, a famous hockey fan. Yep,
uh and so and he had he was promoting the
Lego Batman movie. So it was this weird group of
people and uh, and he was making fun of me
the whole time. He was like, Joela, looks pretty good, buddy.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And I was like, we didn't get called for icing
one and yeah. So I was there. Where were you?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I was there too. I was on the field. I
was working for Fox Super Bowl. I did all the
postgame interviews. And that's the one was interesting because there
was so much build up and then like within two plays,
Peyton Manning spite us, you know, hikes the ball over
the center, hikes it over his head and you're like, oh,
and then it just the Broncos never had a chance.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah. And then Percy Harvin, who had been hurt all.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Year, opens the second half right after Bruno.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Mars do you what do you when that? Because I
made a joke of a prediction. They were like, what
do you think the final score is going to be?
And I said two to four, just because usually I'm like,
usually i'd be like Broncos thirteen, Seahawks two hundred and six,
and but I said two to four. And then the
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first play was the safety.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Two. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I was like, it's happening and I can't believe it.
And what do you like? Obviously I know all sorts
of people that bet money on football legally or legally
now depending upon what state. But what do you think? What?
What do you think the odds were for the first play?
Like somebody had a bet? Like just like what would
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be the Like, okay, if you put down ten bucks
and the first play is a safety?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Aaron, Aaron, We got to producer Aaron here, Aaron, why
don't you google last year's Super Bowl first scoring play
safety and tell me what the odds are. I would
say it's probably one thousand to one.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah right, yeah, like yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Figure that. I'll tell you my story with that. I
was assigned to the Seahawks all week. Fox Sports one
had just launched cable network for our dear friends at Fox.
We Love Hello, Lachlan and the crew, and I was
working for them.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Look, Animal Control on FI was on Fox, I Get
It Kitchen on Fox.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Fox, and I was assigned to that team. And that
was the year that like Marshawn would and talk to
the media and Michael Robinson was doing all the talking
for him, and I was with them at the hotel.
And I could say the hotel now at the time
it was like top secret location, but it was like
the w in Jersey City. Oh I'm sorry, it was
the Weston in Jersey City. And like around that team
(21:06):
after they beat Crabtree and the Niners, they were the
most confident, borderline cocky group of guys, like at no
point did they even think they would lose. That Later
we'd find out there was a fight during the week
involving Golden Tate and and Percy Harvin. I don't even
remember the story, but there was something. It doesn't matter.
They kicked the crap out of Peyton Manning and the
(21:26):
Broncos that day.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It was and I've been on that Monday night football
broadcast between that, which is such a good broadcast. He
his brother and then I brought it up, and I
was like, oh shit, I mean, there were such good
sports and I can't I realize, Oh, this is obviously
like I'm taunting them a little bit. I'm like, I'm
just some fan and I'm like, you were in the game,
(21:48):
and this is like bringing up.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Like legacy stuff like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Like oh you were in like you were in this beat.
Like if it were me, it would be like you
got in this big, huge movie and you kind of
it didn't really you know, it didn't happen, you know,
and I would I'd be like, oh, I'm not that
he was hurt and any because he's such a in
such a cool guy. But I'm like, what, why am
I being a dick? Yeah? Yeah, he's the light. And
(22:14):
I was there speaking all right.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So twelve months later, we're in Arizona. Katy Perry's tearing
it up at halftime. Uh was the was the Canadian
Football League wide receiver Chris Matthews has the game of
his life and he's tearing it up and and curse
has the butt catch? Where were you for that whole less?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I was there again with my wife Sarah, standing next
to Meredith Vieira and matt Lower I love it and
and triple h and uh McMahon's daughter. Uh. Yeah. It
was a very again, like an interesting group and it
(22:52):
was obviously the Patriots. And Meredith Vieira is a huge Patriots.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Fan, is she Okay? I didn't know that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And it was we we I as confident as I
was the year the year before. I was like, oh
my gosh, we're gonna win this year. After that catch,
I was like, we're gonna win. And then it was
like somebody had tied our shoelaces together. And it was
(23:21):
like my son, who's sixteen now, like whenever we see highlights,
if those come on, he just takes off.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Was he old enough to like appreciate it, because that's
now we're going back ten years now, Like was he
old enough to like be a fan at that point?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
So he was six and I think it was enough.
So he had so been indoctrinated by his parents, like
we were some sort of fundamentalist Mormon cult and I yes, So,
I mean you can imagine walking you were probably there,
(23:55):
he's there and walking out with the with you know,
walking out with the crowd. I like just stunned, just absolutely,
I'll never forget as half be as I was. There's
just the stunnedness as the year before it was. It
was not good.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It's a it's a it's a great what if? Because
obviously that game is a horrible loss for the Seahawks
and their fans and they haven't been back to Super
Bowl since, and whatever if they had won two straight
and then you go into the next year and your
rolling looking to be the first team ever to go
win three straight. You don't. Then obviously from that all
the stuff with Russ and the defense and Pete and
(24:34):
it all comes undone. But like, it's one of the
great what is It's not just one game to me,
that one that's not just like, uh all right, it's
it's Nick Foles does a Philly special like this one
that could have been the team of the generation, and
that could have been the team of the decade. And
that kind of just was one super Bowl and then
I lost from the Super Bowl. That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
We went, Yes, to get there twice, as you know,
to get there at all, and then to get there
twice in two years, Yes, all those things, and it
felt like Nicholas Cage in The weather Man or whatever
that movie is where he imagines this other life and mean, yeah,
(25:15):
so yeah, no I go back and so all yeah.
I mean even like I talked to Gronk because he
was on Animal Control, a very nice man, as we've already,
and he was like, oh, I broke your heart, didn't.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
I like, like like I had broken up with someone
and there or they had broken up with me and
they were like, oh I I see it was like
it was was not I wasn't as into the relationship
as you were.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
And I understand how hard that is for you now,
And isn't.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
It Isn't it chilling when you talk to the players
like it's a fan and they're like like they're so
not affected by it, and it's just like, oh, yeah, no,
that was a part of my career, but like you're like, no,
this is like the best day of my life. And
they're like yeah it was, yeah, that's cool, and we
want a super Bowl. That's good.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
And you know he told me when we were shooting
Animal Control, he goes, yeah, I was like because he
we were talking about the past play and everyone's looked
to believe they called that, you know, he said in
the huddle or said like on the sideline, he said Belichick,
And this is why Belichick was brilliant. Belichick said, they
might run something like this, they might try this, and
(26:21):
so it was in the back of the player's brain
so like they might throw a pass here, and then
it happened, and they were like, that's his sort of
his his amazing ability to predict, you know, like what
could happen? So anyway, it was what it was. It
was yeah, bad, bad, bad times. But the fact that
(26:44):
I can even talk about it is really this counseling
session has gone, well.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, and have you do you have a relationship with
Marshawn or with Russ or with Shirm, Like, do you
have a relationship with those guys from that era?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I text with Russ once in a while, and I
am and everyone's look to believe that good. I'm I
truly am thrilled for him.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Everyone has to be. There's no way his career could
end the way it did in Denver. That's not cool.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
No, And he and his like he's the night like
that dude went to the Seattle Children's Hospital every single
piece and was just so and uh, I don't I've
done a couple of things with Sherman. I'm going on
Marjahn's podcast next week, I believe. And uh, there was
(27:32):
nothing funnier than when he wasn't answering questions and then
he realized he had to say something or he'd get fine,
and he would just go uh huh. And then there
would be posters in Seattle of him like looking off
into the distance and it just said yep, and they
were so funny. Oh yeah he was, and he was
(27:54):
really And you can tell when players are cool to kids,
you can like there, they were always being with my kids.
So that it went along with.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Let's go back to your childhood. Obviously grew up in
Washington State and you were in theater as a high school. Yeah, okay,
so go on tell me and then you.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I was, I was such a bad student, and uh,
the only thing I was good at was chasing a ball.
And like, so I was like a golden retriever of
a human being because of my ADHD and my dyslexia.
So I was just like ball and I would run
after ball. So I played tons of sports and then
(28:43):
I did a couple of plays and I was like, oh,
this is really fun if I can just kind of
because I just thought sports and theater they were kind
of these like people didn't take them.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Oil and water dude, like totally they they really there
was a very I mean, obviously we've had uh, you know,
the guy who played Hunter, and you've had Jim Brown
like there's been, there's been.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I've got a professional sports ability the way they did.
Is Fred Dryer still around?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I love spread Dryer.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Aaron Wang Kaufman. Look up Fred Dryer.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And I'm still waiting on that safety odds question.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, what what kind of are you doing this?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I put the safety odds in the chat?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, it just looks like you're a band
member from Weezer.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, totally. You look like Brian Bell from Weezer. How's
that reference? Everyone goes Rivers Cuomo, I go the bassist.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I already forgot that. You asked me about Fred Dryer too,
So at this point you're not getting that information, but
I got you the safety information.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
It's with us.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I have a chat. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
The chat says odds for a safety in the Super Bowl,
we're plus twelve sixty odds for safety is a first score?
Were plus four thousand. Wow, that's good.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And Fred still living in Los Angeles and he has
a production company.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Okay, Joe, should we do dinner with Fred Dryer next
time I'm out in La.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Do you think he's going to be mad that I
thought he was dead?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
No, I thought he might have been dead too. We
don't hear much from Fred Dryer.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, I mean, he's been retired for thirty years now,
and Hunter.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Is not exactly getting your reboot these days.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
If you get dinner with Fred Dryer, he has excluded
red meat from his diet. So just keep that you're
not taking the mistakes.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
All right, Good, the dinner is off. Dinner is off.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
We'll take Richard Dean Anderson instead.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Richard Who I mean? I guess Joe Namath had a
pretty storied acting career for a what was it Nameth?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yeah name, it was in things he was in the
more commercials and talk shows. I mean, there's a long
history of uh what was his name, the guy who
was on Mister Belvedere, what was his name?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yes, well this is Alex Karras.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah, and father father Murphy, Uh, you know, from a
little house in the prairie. What's Merlin Olson?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
One of the fearsome foursome a.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Very good football player. See I didn't have the athletic
I was good, but not nothing. You know, I was
never that level.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Okay, So what plays do you remember? I like the
plays first. What plays were you in?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Oh? The first play I was ever in was in
hadd And Field, New Jersey. I was raised in Seattle,
but we lived for two years in New Jersey, and uh,
this was the play and I'm not kidding it's it
was a Disney Uh, the theatrical adaptation of the ride
It's a Small World. So again, that's how the indoctrination,
(31:55):
how early it began was we we did It was
like a play in a book. And then they were like,
you're gonna be wearing later hosen. Yeah yeah. And I
was like, and then you're a snake charmer and it's
I'm sure I can't imagine how culturally insensitive it is.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I'm sure it's it's it's been canceled twenty years ago.
My question is is that like an original or is
that something that other high schools were probably doing or
did your theater teacher say I'm whipping up one bay.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I'm saying second grade that was this is I don't know,
I don't know how yeah, no, no, yeah. In high
school we were already Oh in high school, we felt
we were doing important work. Yeah, we were like we're
doing waiting for good do, but this time we're skipping
(32:47):
every other word. And I did ibsen in college. Look
at our Baron Wang Kaufman, a lady from the sea
running an exciting play go rid of dolls house.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
It's a real, real happy one.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
So I was good at that and terrible at school.
And uh so my mom, who was a newspaper editor,
two of her three sons were full dyslexics, which was
a real joke from God, which was like, you have
someone who is so good at grammar and spelling and arrangement,
and then you have this yea who. It really accentuates
(33:28):
it when you're wearing a football helmet, and uh you
have this ya who and who. Yeah. So I I
kind of did that through great. Then I moved to Seattle,
and I did all the sports I could, and uh
then I just kept doing theater with these two friends
of mine, Dominic, our three friends Dominic Delao, Ethan Sandler,
(33:48):
and John Atkins, who are all uh two of those
three guys are are in the business. One of the actors, Yeah,
one of them is, he's Ethan's gonna be on American
Horror Story. And John Yeah, and John is a very
prolific musician. He was in a band called and six
four Hero that did opened for Modest Mouse for years
(34:10):
and years and years and if you look up them,
they're a storied Seattle band. And then, uh, Dominic Delo
played man Kiny on the Suit for twelve years. Uh,
so we're it's going He moved back to Seattle, so
he kind of retired, but I I would hire him
in a second if you would do it. And uh,
but so yeah, we did. We all did theater and
(34:31):
the two of the three of us did. Uh, two
of the four, three of the four of the sports.
Ethan was the captain of our of the Mercer Island
freshman football team, like legit.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So then you were you were doing both. But then,
I mean, I see these footage, these pictures of you
as a tight end wearing a University of Washington jersey
in front of the Rose Bowl and you're jacked and
you're on the actual rose ball team. So how did
you make the leap from high school to like playing
at Washington. That's legit.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I tricked as I I just tricked everybody all the time. Uh,
just like acting.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
No.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Well, Don James was our coach and had a very
active well, you know, one of the greatest coaches in
the Husky history, and he was he had a very
active walk on program which he wanted fresh blood to
always be there, to always be pushing the scholarship players,
and it kept fresh meat and cannon fodder firing at them.
(35:30):
And then you know, there was some real gems in
that like John Fiala, who became the captain of the
Steelers way back when he was a walk on and anyway,
so I was a walk on, but I just would
nail skit night. I mean like they were like that.
(35:51):
You were funny who was on that.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Who was on that Washington team? Because I mean Ernie Cronwell, right,
was on that team.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Conwell was, Yes, he went on to the Rams of
Saint Louis and Mark Brunell who storied quarterback. Damon Heward
was on that team. Dave Hoffman who was an All
American linebacker, his brother Steve Hoffman. Lincoln Kennedy I came
in at right after Steve MPMan.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, Mario Bailey the receiver of course, Napoleon Kaufman who
went to the Raiders and did well and then retired early.
There was Let's lawyer Malloy was on that team.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Bro Y are legends and like when you when you
show up on the soup are they like what the like?
Did they or did you? Guys keep into like that's
incredible that you were with all these guys and then
you get one of the most coveted jobs like in comedy.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Well, I think there were more. If it were me,
I would be more confused and or they would be like,
well that's about right for that guy. Okay, it wasn't
like it wasn't he was like it was like showtime
when I walked on the football field and I'm all
taped uff, but I've got the stuff under my eyes
(37:06):
ready to go. There was more. I was on the
Scout offense, which would play against you know, the the
best players in college football defense at the time, So
I think they were when I talk to them now,
like because I am friends with Dave Hoffman and Damon
Hewart and Mark Brunner also was on that team and Ernie.
(37:27):
They both worked for the NFL. I think Bruner works
for the Steelers, I think, And uh, so they're they're
very nice and and very cool. I'm actually gonna see
Damon Hubert tomorrow. And so yeah, no, believe me, if
you had said that that this is how it would
work out, I would be like this that I don't
(37:47):
know like that the fact that they like they started
giving Oh, DeMarco Farr was on that team.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
And Ernie last week because they honored the ninety nine
Rams at halftime of the Rams versus Eagles game.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
That's in that so and it's so they Yeah, they
were extremely nice and I think ESPN or was it
ESPN there we was this or maybe a Sports Illustrated
did these things? These things called like were they actually good?
And they were very diplomatic about how they answered it.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
It was very talking about like.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
They were like, he was a very nice guy and
very fun don't think. I don't know if that was you.
I was like, yeah, that's what people are known for,
you know.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
He was funny.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, it wasn't like his speed in his hands were incredible.
He was nobody had better like like on field intelligence. No, no, no,
he just he had a really good touchdown routine.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
All right, you know, I geek out on the comedy stuff.
So you go from college to this then commercials. I
want to say, if I remember listening to an interview
on four. But then you get this incredible opportunity to
take over one of the you know, the hallmarks of
the network, but also one of the great shows of
the nineties, the Soup, which was Talk Sup originally take
(39:10):
us through. How did that even come to be?
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I well, I lived in I got married in Seattle,
and lived in Seattle as an actor, and I'm my
wife is still agreeing to be married to me, thank you, Sarah,
And it's been thirty years. What the hell is together? Thirty?
But I got on a show there, well in Seattle
(39:34):
called Almost Live right out of college, which started like
Bill nya science guy's career. It was a locally produced
catch comedy show. And I was on there and kind
of learned how to be bad as not bad. But
I was like so scared and intimidates. Yeah, and they
were so nice about kind of taking care of me
(39:56):
and letting me screw up teleprompter because I was so
dyslexic and nervous. And then I went to graduate school
for acting in Seattle at the University of Washington Go
and then we moved to LA and I said to
my wife, just give me five years to try and
make this work. And that's couldn't get an agent. I
(40:18):
couldn't get an agent that would send me on television auditions,
but I could get I got a commercial agent AKA,
which is a great agency here, and they started sending
me out of commercials and that started working. And then
this woman named Annie Roberts who just finished casting like
retired from E recently and now works for Netflix. She
(40:39):
saw me in commercials and would bring me into E
things like one hundred and one Celebrity Oops and which
were kind of like best week ever. This is for
those of you young kids listening, go look it up.
And then she said, you want to audition for this.
This it's the new version of talk soup where's not
(41:00):
And they were like, we're not gonna call it that,
but you're we're gonna make fun of reality.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
TV, right, and it was blowing up like this is
because they used to be toxic, would do the daytime
talk shows. Yes, show was we're gonna make fun of
Flavor Flave and we're gonna make fun of.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Joe Millionaire yep, yeah, and uh, Survivor like these there
was these like Survivor big shows and then there's Flavor
Flav who became a huge and then like Whitney Houston
of course, and the real world was still going and
it was still and then the real world was figuring
out just put insane people on and there it was
(41:36):
this open frontier and it was the We had perfect
timing and kind of hitting that because there was like
RuPaul's Drag Race was the dirtiest show on television, and
there was things we couldn't even show and there I
was like, they're on regular cable, why can't we do that?
And yeah, they were like, we just can't and uh
and then we then they made fun They let us
make fun of the Kardashians who had just started on E.
(41:58):
And it was this tiny little show on E and
it obviously it worked out and uh and so it
was this wonderful open frontier of and nobody watched the
show for a year and Ted Harbert, who was the president,
liked the show, so he kept it on. So we
just crowned and it was I was so lucky because
(42:21):
I got used to say the reading teleprompter and doing
what I know, they're just kind of telling jokes. I
was like, I don't know, we'll try this one and yeah, boy.
And that was five years in or four years in.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
And so Annie Roberts, who's the executive you give credit to,
she watched your tapes from the scene comedy or the commercials.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
She saw me on commercials. I know, yeah, I didn't
have any I don't have any tape, but nobody cared.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
But I would imagine the job like everyone in the groundlings,
everyone in Second City. I'm sure everyone was trying out
for this.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I know the two. I know who it was narrowed
down to, and one of them was a friend of
mine named Matt Corboy, who is who is super funny,
and I to this day I'm like, why didn't he
get it?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
He's yeah, he's.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Great, and and so we yes, I think that there
was a very long there was a he was it
took like six months to get the job. And that
wasn't because they were seeing the world. It was just
because he didn't. They were kind of, you know, very nonchalant.
And then when they put us on and saw how
cheap it was. At first, They're like, ten, there was
(43:35):
a time kids, when programming the actual day really mattered.
In ten o'clock on a Friday night was a desert.
It was a dead zone.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
On ABC with you downs.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yeah, and they were like, hey, you beat a rerun
of Sex in the City, and I'd be like, thank you,
thank you so much and uh. And then it slowly
started started working. And that was twelve years of my life.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Twelve years. And I've been doing Good Morning Football for
nine years and I like it's yesterday over those twelve years.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Obviously that and that's why Good Morning Football. So, I mean,
you got, you know, the combination of you guys and
the comedy, the fact that you guys put so much
humor into it, and it's so important because boy is
something there. People can rattle off all the facts and
everything that happened, but you can't intelligently make fun of
(44:32):
it and be be funny. It's who cares.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
It also helps that Kyle and I can rattle off
Mother love Bone references just like we do Eric Dickerson references.
We go on culture. It's like you go sports and
you're a.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Lot better than me and you know, mother love.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Bone, that's the attle. Let's go all right. So then
the Soup obviously is this huge hit and then you're
on one of the biggest comedies of the era in community.
How does that happen?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Well that it wasn't the biggest comedy.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Oh here though, and then now considered like it became.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, we ate. We were like cheese and or or
a festering wound. We just kept growing and bothering people
to the point where they're like, we cannot not pay attention.
At the time Glee, we came at the same year
as Glee, and they broke the record for Emmy nominations
and they had a big sign and they were also
a paramount and the big sign that said like sixteen
(45:30):
Emmy nominations in our said community zero Emmy nominations and yes,
so that we were. I got on that show because
I was on E and it was owned by Comcast,
and I read the script and asked if I was like,
I want if I can get in this audition and
Dan Harmon's girlfriend at the time, who was a Soup fan,
(45:54):
and she was like, oh, you got to see that guy,
and uh so I once again got extremely lucky for
getting that the chance to audition for it, and then
you know, and then Donald Glover's career really tanked after that.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
That was it. That was the height, that was.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
That was it was so it uh it Yeah. No,
at the time, we were going to be canceled every
single season we were on isn't and then we were
Then we were picked up by Yahoo Screen, which was
a very short lived streaming service, literally a two year
long streaming service. And then when they went down, they
(46:33):
blamed us, which I can take. It's like I can
take credit for taking down a streaming service. So I'm
just thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Our producer, Aaron wang Kaufman, who you've been so kind
to since you joined the podcast, is a die hard
Community fan and wanted to pepper you with one question.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Go for it, yes, Aaron, so Joel, I actually changed
my question. I have three scripts in front of me.
I have It's a Small World, I have The Lady
from the Sea, and I have Community. I'm going to
read you a line and you tell me which project
that was from. All right, okay, here we go. This
is yeah, this is a quiz for you. Character one.
I was flying home to Neverland, and I was listening
(47:15):
out for all the music that I always love to
hear when I'm flying home, but I couldn't hear anything.
Pinocchio's house was nearby, so I stopped off to see
if he knew what was going on. Is that it's
a small world? Is that lady by the sea from
the sea, or is that community?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I don't think Ibsen did a lot of lying. It
was just a lot of like, uh, there's a lot.
There was a lot that would have been the last
thought of the grandma who was dying in a chair
for the entire play. Uh. So, obviously it's either community
(47:52):
or it's a small world. And I'm just gonna say
it's community.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Because that's from the very famous Disney spoof episode that
you guys did. No, that's that's the world.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah, but you know, I wouldn't put it past our
playmation episode that if Abed had said that.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Do you uh? If you had obviously you guys had
so many great genre spoofs. If you guys were doing
like a draft day spoof, who within the study group
is going to be the GM, who's going to be
the coach, who's going to be you know, the president
of the team. Who's going to be going.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
I would have to go back between two thousand and
nine and twenty fifteen. But right now, that's a good question. Well,
we'd have to have Peter and Kyle Long of course.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
They teaching a class at Green or.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
They were like murderers loose in the school for some reason. Yeah,
And then I, jeez, I think we would try to well,
it's a good I think we try to get like,
I don't know, like Roger Federer to come in with
a thick Swiss accent and and uh and he would
(49:08):
I don't know, he would probably be our Tom Brady boy.
And then oh boy, and you will yet Flavor Flay.
You know, we referenced flavor.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
That's it, all right, community aside. Obviously, I've had this
amazing career. And then I'm at the Super Bowl a
couple of years ago, and I'm in this random group
with Paul Rudd and his kid and Baby Face and
his kid, and we're at Pizzeria Bianco. And then I
see the biggest smile I could ever imagine, and it's
Joel McHale with Gordon Ramsay walking through the door. Now
(49:41):
you're part of the Fox Family and you're on these shows.
You got two shows. Now take us through how you
got embedded into the Fox world and then how awesome
these two programs are?
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Oh? Well that you know again, I cannot believe my
when they came to me with Crime Scene Kitchen because
I do love food and I talk about it and
there were I got this new idea and you do
you want to host it? And I was this was
after boy, this is like three years or it is
(50:11):
right before the pandemic, and uh I that they were
just they made me the offer, which I was like absolutely.
And Curtis Stone, who as the chef I always wanted
to know, Uh he's a cool a cool guy, the
coolest guy and a genius. And then you'll landa gamp
who basically started the whole is it cake phenomenon. Go
(50:35):
on her Instagram and go back ten years and she's
already been like is this a pair of shoes or
a cake? And then he says it's cake. And so
that was that's how I got in on that. And
then Animal Control came up, which happened to be at Fox,
and they were like, do you want to play this
old man? This curmudgeonty old man. I was like, yes,
(50:58):
and so that I got again, so lucky, and they've
been really cool and allowing me to tell my silly
jokes and yeah, they've been They I Fox, you know,
like to be on the same network as the Simpsons,
you know, or Bob's Burgers.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
I was like, oh, with children, let's go.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
Yeah. And then I got to, you know, hang out
with Gordon one the another extremely kind and possibly the
most intense man I've ever met.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
But bro, how how smooth is he walked in this restaurant.
This is like the smoothest cat I've ever seen. And
then he's at the super Bowl the next day and
he's on the field and I'm walking with Sean payton
Field like a big shot, and Gordon Ramsey's there and
I'm like, Okay, that's the coolest guy in the building
right there. That's him.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
He's that. Yeah. It was like jay Z and Gordon
Ramsey's rotting along and my my I brought my son
and Chaer was in the box next to us. Cool
and he was way more impressed with Gordon Ramsey.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
All right, So so they they have a Fox Super
Bowl this year. I assume I'm not going to make
any assumptions, but I hope you're there. I hope.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
I think I've already started the campaign. I was like,
maybe I can't hide in the wheel well of the Hagen.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
We'll be Hagen. We'll do that, but they I'll take
you back. A couple of months ago, probably before the season,
I saw a jelly Roll for like the fifth time
in concert. I love this guy. And I go on
Good Morning Football, NFL Network show and I'm like, jelly
Roll should do halftime. Everyone loves jelly Roll jelly rolls.
And I got a text from someone that knows these things.
It's like, it's not gonna be jelly rolling, Like General
(52:31):
pres shouldn't do halftime. Like that's just not really, Like
it's not the best thing. I think you should host
NFL Honors on Fox this year, and it's been Keegan
Michael Key in recent years, it's been Steve Harvey before that,
it's on Fox. Joel Am, I am, I am, I
barking up the wrong tree here.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Can I make terrible news for you? It's Kendrick Lamar.
I'm available. I'm happy to do.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
I want this. I feel like you'd be so funny.
I would work on your writing team. We would take
the piss every I mean, no one's made a joke
about Belichick dating a twenty four year old until we
do it on NFL Honors.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
How is that off limits?
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Like taboo or something? It's real, guys. He's out there,
he's posing as a fisherman holding a woman as a mermaid,
and we're not allowed to joke about it.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
How he's not Is he work? Is he he's not employed? Right?
Is he employed?
Speaker 1 (53:30):
He works for every media company and he's on NFL
Films and NFL Network. So I guess maybe we're not
supposed to it's a it's a fun story. I think
he would laugh.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
And I'm you know, he seems to be happy. I mean, sure,
it's crazy, but uh, if you had said this ten
years ago, we'd be like, he's going to be dating
a woman who is uh currently in grade school?
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Yeah, we would say that's that's that's a story to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
Yeah, all right, I mean that's my push. He was
always very sexy on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Unbelievable. All right, So I will talk to my sources
at the NFL you tube, I'm your sources at Fox
I'm in. I would like you hosting that. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Who's there? The Kelly Clarkson hosted and she killed She
was great.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
She was great. That was a really good one. That
was good. That was in La. I want to say
that was where that was?
Speaker 3 (54:20):
That was in Arizona, Arizona.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
It was Arizona. You're right, Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
I think Jim Brown I think that was his last appearance,
and I think Kyle Kyle had a run up down
the aisles streaming.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
We laughed about that in the green room, you me
and Kyle afterwards, and I think Jim Brown passed like
a couple of years later, and I was like, it
might have been the last time we saw Jim Brown.
Was you yelling angry runs in his face? That might
have done it?
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Oh? How killed it? That was good?
Speaker 1 (54:47):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
Now that's good. All right, I'm in if I can
wear this outfit hosting.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah, that's good. You're the man.
Speaker 7 (54:54):
I appreciate it, Uhawk, you and you are look just
I remember when you guys first mentioned my name on
Good Morning Football and I was in.
Speaker 3 (55:06):
I was doing push ups and I was like, Oh,
this is what it's like to be on drugs because
I was like, this shouldn't be happening. And then I
I was so well speaking of honored, I was just
guy like getting to know you, Peter.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
You're the man. I love that. I love that we
could do this. I love that you came on here
and you spent a full hour both with me. Joe McHale,
go one more time. Give us the shows and what
times they're on another premiere.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
Animal Yeah, Animal Control starts January second. Crime Scene Kitchen
is on right now. I think there's two episodes left.
They're both on Hulu, so you can catch up on
Hulu and uh and then and you can catch up
and it's a I look, I've been on a lot
of not great shows. Crime Scene Kitchen is a great show,
and then Animal Control is a lot of fun and
(56:00):
it's a guy. I really love it. It's really fun.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
It's cool. And you had Gronk as a special guest
in one of these things.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
We'll be on our super Bowl week episode, so he's
for me.
Speaker 6 (56:11):
Great.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Joe mccal thank you, dude, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
Go Hawks having me. Go Hawks.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Love Joe McHale. I love laughing on on a podcast here.
It's nice to have some levity. He's incredible and his
Seahawks have a big one against the Cardinals this weekend.
But let's talk about last week real quick, because it's
the season with Peter Shaker's delivering results presented by our
sponsors at Uber Eats, and we give out an award
presented to the player or the team that delivered in
(56:46):
the biggest of moments, and I'm giving it to Russell
Wilson who had four hundred and fourteen passing yards and
three touchdowns and a shootout with Joe Burrow last week.
And just as we were ready to jump off the
Steelers bandwagon when they lost to the Browns in the snow,
they come back the following week and they put up
forty four points and they should. They do have the
(57:07):
offensive firepower to compete in the AFC with the Heavies,
the Bills, and the Chiefs. Russell Wilson, his best game
as a Steeler, put up huge yards, the first time
a Steelers quarterback has thrown from more than four hundred
yards in three touchdowns since Big bended it in twenty eighteen.
And now Russ has another big game against those same
Browns that beat them in Cleveland about two weeks ago.
(57:29):
That's gonna be Sunday, and I am excited to see
how that goes down. That was delivering results presented by
Uber Eats, where you can get the best deals on
game day food all season long. It's the official on
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on behalf of Aaron Wan Kaufman, on, behalf of Joel McHale,
are excellent guest, behalf of Jason English, On, behalf of
(57:50):
all the folks in LA who work for NFL Media,
and on behalf of the iHeart team who By the way,
I believe I can announce this, Aaron, I am taking
my son Mel. We're gonna go to the jingle Ball
next week. iHeart jingle Balls. See one hundred I believe
is sponsoring it. And it's at Madison Garden and it's
shaboozy and it's that uh Tate McCrae and Gray Abram
(58:16):
who And I want to say, Benson, what's his name?
Brendan Boone? Berinson Boone. He's got that, He's got a
good one. He's got a good song on the radio.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
Benson Boone.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
He's got a few of them this summer.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
And twenty one Pilots.
Speaker 3 (58:32):
The twenty one.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
Piots is different than twenty one Savage, and I'm disappointed.
I like twenty one Savage, twenty one Pilots. I can't
think of a single song of theirs off the top
of my head. They rock, They're like an alt rock
pop band. I thought I was getting twenty one Savage.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
That would be.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
Perform with Shane Gillis so Startingly Live last year and
he was, oh, oh wow, yes, yeah, So I'm going
to jingle ball. I think if my son's not up
for it, then we won't be going. Always be eating
the tickets, and I apologize to our friends at iHeart.
We'll see I don't want to drinx in it. We'll
see it's next week, so we could preview the Maybe
we'll get one of those artists on next week. Can
(59:10):
we get Katie Perry.
Speaker 2 (59:12):
Or Shaboozi on we can look into that will.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
Promote Iheart's jingle and we'll do a day in New
York with I don't know if Katy Perry wants to
come in studio, she can sounds likely, Isaiah likely. All
right on that note, have a good week, everybody, The
Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the NFL
(59:38):
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