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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's do a Tangent. I think it's girls'
(00:01):
night on the Tangent. Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Hit
the thing.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the Tangent with the bread show, giving me all
the we couldn't talk about on air.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
All right, So Paulina and Jason are off running around
doing technical things. I don't know, timing things and putting
things here and there. And I really don't know what
happens outside this room.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I got the microphone, I got the on button, and
I speak, and I just hope it goes out into
the ether. I hope that what we're saying is heard
by people. I really don't know what happens once it
leaves the room, though, I don't know satellite dishes and
internets and do flotchis and servers and.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm listening network operations and I have no idea where
that is or what it is. But that's something something
to do with that I don't know. Anyway, those guys
are handling it. So it's the three of us today
on the Tangent. Let's talk about those fuckers behind their back.
I want to sure, of course, what's the morality Monday.
We didn't get some morality Monday because I didn't know
we had one. So let's do moraliti Monday.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I realized I should have put it yesterday and then
I was like, oh crap, got a got await for
the next Monday.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
Okay, So here's my morality Monday.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
This is a real life situation.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
So a lot of people could be listening listening from wherever,
obviously to this podcast. But in Chicago, we have a
public transit system called the L right, right, and dogs
are not allowed on the L.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
However, it's a train.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Yeah, it's a train. It's like a subway that's not underground,
it's above ground.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah for the most part.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Yeah. Yeah. And there's a lot of rules for the L.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
However they're not really usually followed, right you got I
saw a dude molesting himself.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
You know, I've seen people You're.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Not supposed to do that. It's it's discouraged to do
those things.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
But people do your you know, smoking crack whatever, you
can do that. Oh you can't. I would think so
because I see it all the day.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You're allowed to smell crack, right, just don't smell crack
and molest yourself at the same time.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You can't do that.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Well, that's just logistically different one of the other.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
And so one of those rules is no dogs allowed,
which I definitely understand why that rule was made for sure. Okay,
So the other day my boyfriend took his dog. He's
I think he's only done it twice in his whole life,
took his dog on Neil. Okay, he posted a picture
of her on the l and he got killed for it.
Killed for it, okay, because it is against the rules, right,
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And so him and I got into it. I said, listen,
I do think you're in the wrong on this one.
I think it's against the rules.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Whatever. Well, his thing is literally there was a guy.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Smoking crack two seats away, and I said, haven't you
heard the old Two wrongs don't make it right?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, and if we're breaking the rules, why do we
have to publicize that we're breaking the ruals? Like, just
break the rules, right, Like, you don't have to break that.
I think would probably piss everybody off, as you're breaking
the rules and you're showing off.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Well, he wasn't like showing off?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, you posted on a social media platform, right, Well.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yeah, it was just like how good she was being
on it. I don't know that he was showing.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Off, but I mean that would be like me committing
a crime and then posting a video and being like, hey, look, everybody.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
A cute dog with you.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
When I committed the crime.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
Yes, that makes the different.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So if I got a cute dog while I'm breaking
the rules, and it's like, well, well, I mean the
dog is cute.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
So yeah, she's cute, she's very well behaved, she stayed close, whatever.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
But I do I do differ on him, like on
this situation than he does.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
And he's like pointing out all the illegal stuff that's
going on, and and some people and they were split
right in the comments.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Some people said okay, like.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Because of allergies, because of this or that, or I'm
scared of dogs.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Other people were like she's a good girl, like let
it happen. Whatever.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Again, I think pointing to all the other illegal stuff
doesn't make it okay for you to break the rule.
But I thought it'd be an interesting morality money because
people were so split about it.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, I think it's obviously two different ends of the spectrum.
But right, I guess if you're getting away with something
that you're not supposed to do, right, then don't flaunt it.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Oh so that's your issue with it.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Not.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I think that's why he got any kind of smoke
is because otherwise it's like it just happened and it
was people.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Going I'm a largic and I'm scared of.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Don't But that's what I mean. He hadn't posted it,
then there's no smoke.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Well, a woman yelled at him on the train. That's
why he posted it. Yeah, so like she came.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Up and yelled him. My boyfriend brought his dog on
the oul, which is a.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Little I just walked back.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yeah, I'm recapping for Paulina.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
But he points that, you know, people have their weener
out and are smoking cracks, so it should be okay.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Yeah, I mean like fair is fair. So I would
say that's the Lisa.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
Those scariest thing lifting on the platform before on the
on the old l and I brought my.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Cat in an uber before.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
Yeah I have, it's a little bit different, but I
put her in my bag and I didn't say anything.
Oh so you didn't get one of those pet because
there are not ubers, No God, Okay, I put mewing.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
No, Miss Cleo is.
Speaker 8 (04:40):
She's a good girl, Like she follows directions. She's like
really like you know about that, about that life. And
this is my old apartment back in the day, and
I just had it. I didn't have a car, so
I had to like get to my mom's house, right,
and I took an uber I.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Mean, you know, I mean, everybody knows I'm a huge
animal guy and I like dogs more than I like people.
And that's a jet that's a universal statement that I am.
I am fine to stand by.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I can think of more dogs I like right now
at the top of my head than I do people.
But I do understand that people's fear of dogs is real.
People's allergies to dogs is real. I get that. I
do think some people overreact. But like if I'm just
walking down the street and mine in my business and
my dog is well behaved and you freak out, well,
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come on, we live in a society. I guess there's
a reason why you're not supposed to do it on
the train. So I wouldn't do it. I probably wouldn't
be it. I probably wouldn't open myself up to that.
It's a confined space, we have to share it. So
I probably wouldn't have done that. I probably would have
figured out another way. But you know, whatever it is.
When no one got hurt, everyone's fine. Yeah, but and
I definitely wouldn't have posted about it just because I
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don't know, just because it doesn't even matter even if
he was in the right. Are people are assholes and
there's just gonna be anything you post anything on social media,
and you got to expect to get smoke for nothing.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
We get smoke for nothing all the time.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, it was interesting saying people are like I'm sick
of these dog people thinking they can bring their dog
wherever they want.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Dogs need to stay at home. I was like, oh
my god.
Speaker 9 (06:06):
I'm shocked. This is the first time I learned that
they're not allowed singing. I feel like dogs are everywhere.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, I actually didn't know that either, to be honest, anywhere.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
I just went to a restaurant.
Speaker 9 (06:15):
We sat outside to eat, and the lady behind us
she had her dog and I sat down, and the
dog jumped up and sat down next to me, and
I was like, oh, hey, cutie, and she turned around
like his name is Harvey, and I was like, okay, girl,
get your dog because I'm trying to welcome him to
the dinner, and you mad because I might be misidentifying
his gender, Like, girl, get this dog now. But it's
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just like, I feel like dogs are everywhere, so to
be outraged at this point, I feel like it's just.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Well, even as a dog guy, I do agree that
people have completely abused the whole thing. They've abused the
service dog, the therapy dog. They've abused dogs in public,
and then you've got people don't clean up after their dogs,
or their dogs aren't properly trained, but yet they're supposedly
service dogs but they're not. I mean, there's a lot
of abuse of that going on, which I think the
only reason that I have any issue with it is
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because it makes it more difficult for the people who
do need it. But that's true with everything I feel like.
I feel like any opportunity for an advantage these days
is being used, regardless if it applies to you or not.
Wheelchairs at the airport, it's an epidemic. It's an epidemic.
I'm sorry, but a year ago, two years ago, there
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were not thirty people with wheelchairs trying to get on
the plane on any given plane. Now, go on any
Southwest flight, you got ten people in wheelchairs and because
they all get on first. And I'm not saying that
people who need a wheelchair shouldn't be able to do that.
They should, but I'm telling you all these people don't
need it.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
How do you feel about yourself when you sit there
and you see somebody who clearly needs it and you
really don't like, how do you just so you can
get on the plane get a better seat? Like that's
bad karma, man, like do it never? That's just I
don't like. What are you doing? Like, don't I don't know,
I don't like it. And again, I'm not talking about
the people who need stuff, but there's all kinds of
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stuff going on right now where people are taking advantage
of the loopholes. They just did a whole thing, or
we did the story a couple weeks ago about Disney
having to like you essentially have to prove that you
have a disability now or something. I don't remember what
the story was exactly, but essentially, people were faking disabilities
to get to the front of a fucking space mountain,
you know, and it's like, what are you doing, Like,
do you think the people that actually have the disability
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and need that kind of access, do you think they
wouldn't prefer to wait in line and not have whatever's
going on with them?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And so you're and you just don't want to wait.
So it's like, oh, this is rouming me.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I don't like it. I don't like it. Guys, what
else is going on? What else? Kind of catch up?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
When I held a kid on Friday, Rufino's kid. You know,
I like kids that aren't mine, I really do. I
loved it, like, Okay, that was nice. Here you go
take it back. And then I got to go take
a nap or something. I was busy. I had to
go my nap time. It was late for my nap actually,
but I thought it was important to meet the kid.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's just crazy to me that, like, people give their
kids to me so willingly, knowing I have no experience.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
It's okay, you know, we got to start somewhere. Yeah
you do great, though, all you guys do.
Speaker 10 (09:15):
I appreciate you being the guinea pig, you know, your
kid being the guinea.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Pig she was. And I even left you alone for
a couple of minutes.
Speaker 10 (09:20):
Yeah, you walk out the door, and I was like, uh,
I forgot holding this baby.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I'm not I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I don't want this for one second to come off
like I'm saying that raising kids is easy, because I
know it is not.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I know it is not.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
But I will say those of us who have never
had a kid and don't have a lot of experience
with little kids, I think in our minds, we've created
this concept that it is the kid's going to break,
that it is impossible that we are going to break
the kid, that like there's no way that we could
do it. And I think what we seem to forget
is almost well, everybody who has a kid now was
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at one time that person who didn't have a kid
and thought they might break the kid.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So I'm not minimizing what it takes to raise a child,
but I am saying that in my mind as a
guy who's never had one of my own and hasn't
done the twenty four to seventh thing. In my mind,
I'm holding this kid like it's a China doll and
like I'm going to hurt it or do something. And
then Rufio takes him and is like, you know, it'll
kind of swings him or like not in an unsafe way.
(10:18):
But I'm just saying, like I think for I think
it's a mystifying like thing for those of us who
haven't done it. And then I think once you've done it,
I think it some of the some of the mysticism
goes away.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I also think that people who don't have children, and
I say this as someone who wants children, should get
like a coupon book of like five separate excuses where
we can cash those in in a place where someone
with children may use their child as an excuse, you know,
because if there's some sort of child something going on,
you can get off of work, you can get out
(10:51):
of certain things, no questions asked. And I would like
just five no questions ask scenarios where I just need
to be out of something and I don't get any
questions any background.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's fair because as a as a single person or
a kidless person. Really it's amazing we don't I haven't really,
it hasn't happened on here on this show in a
long time. But it used to be anything that was
undesirable certain people couldn't do because they have their kid.
And then it turned out they didn't have their kids.
They were just using their kid as an excuse, or
they weren't even gonna do shit with their kids. They
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just didn't want to go. And it's like, say that
it's fucked up, like they don't just because I don't
have a kid means I got to do the thing
you don't want to do.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
And that's one of the benefits of having a kid.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Like my mom used to like if she wanted to
leave somewhere be like Kilan doesn't feel well, you know,
And that's one of the benefits.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Because it's hard to raise kids, so you should get that.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
But I also think us childless people should get a
couple times where no one looks a second glance because
we can just say no, we're.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Not because it's funny, like when it's a free meal
or something the kid all of a sudden has childcare.
But like when it's but when it's like when it's
some bullshit, you know, like we got to go do
this free thing for the you know, free people, you
know what I mean, it's all I can't do that,
or if it's far away time, or if it's inconvenient
and then and now and now I'm kind of being shitty,
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but these people will also look at you like you're
the asshole, and they'll be like, but I have a kid,
and it's like, okay. Well, first of all, first of all,
don't say that to many people, because one, like, that's
your choice. Two, unfortunately, you may say that's the wrong person.
You may you may be saying that to a person
who wishes they had a kid for whatever reason. And
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the third thing is I get it that there should
be a lot of grace given to parents. There's shit
there should and like anybody on here that's got kids
shit to do, you go do the kid. The family
stuff always comes first. But what back to my original point,
which is it can become very selective over time, where
it's like, you know, if you're gonna miss everything, the
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good and the bad because kid's got soccer games or whatever,
I got it. But if you're only gonna go to
the good shit and miss the bad shit because of
your quote unquote kid, I'm on to you.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, but I agree with that. I agree with you, Caitlin.
I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
I do agree with you, And for me personally, I
think i'm a little bit of the opposite where I'm
afraid to say no, even though like I'm I'm in
my air of saying no, and I think most of
us are here, like especially Jason, like you've really grown
over the past couple of years, Like if you don't
want to be as something like you don't and I
love that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
And I feel like a lot of.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
Us have become that in a good way, right, Like
we're protecting our space, whatever our boundaries. But I'm also
afraid to say no because then I'm afraid y'all not
going to invite me no more. That's where I'm afraid
to go to and that's not and I will say
no if I don't want to go somewhere.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
I have no problem saying no.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
But I also feel like, oh damn, Like, well, if
I continuously say no or like don't go to something,
then I won't be asked to do that or you
guys won't invite me out.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Like that's my fear. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah? Well, and you also don't want to you don't
want to become the person who's not reliable, correct because
you have a child. And again, like there's such a
major difference between I physically cannot go because this obligation
comes first no one to watch my kid, or because
I I want to miss this major milestone event. But
then you've got the other side where it's I'm just
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I just don't want to go, and I'm using my
kid as an excuse, and like you can't then be
mad when the good shit comes along and you don't
get invited to that either, you know what I mean, Like, well,
I just assumed you couldn't go because you're a kid.
It's like, oh, I can go to that. It's like, well,
but now hold on, now you can go. Well to
hold on, We're either going to be consistent, you know
what I mean, with exception, or we're not right.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
It's like the old argument about smokers.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
You know how smokers like they'll go out and have
SIGs and have a fifteen minute break or whatever, whereas
people who don't smoke, they just keep working.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
This happens in relationships too. I've noticed, like I have
friends who have used their wives, and wives who've used
their husbands as the excuse for not being able to
go to stuff when it really turns out that they
just don't want to go. But the problem with doing
that is if you don't know, if you don't know
well enough, then you start to resent the partner because
it's like she doesn't let you do shit or he
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doesn't let you do anything, like what the fuck? And
then you realize, like more than once, I've caught my
buddies where I've been like, so, you guys were tied
up last night or whatever, and she'll be like I
wouldn't even home, yeah, oh yeah, And I'll be like, oh, well,
so and so said that he couldn't come out last
night because you said no, and she's like I never
fucking said that, right, And then you're like, okay, well
now you're the ass Like I thought you were the asshole,
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but actually my buddy's the asshole for just using you
as an excuse to not do it. Yeah, it happens
a lot, I think.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Yeah, yeah, just like be honest, that's the best thing.
If you don't want to do something, or like hey,
like that's just like not I'm not interested in that,
then just say that, don't use the kid thing, and
then Dolton won't be mad when you're not getting paid
or when you're not invited to the whatever dinner group dinner.
I don't know, making things up right, but like, yeah,
it's a fine line. It's hard, but I love that
you guys are supportive. So actually, Freddy just said this too.
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You're like, you know, if it's if it's actually kid
related and important, Like I think this group does a
really good job of making that a priority.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
You know, for a parent, I think that's dope.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Oh yeah, I mean, like I don't have kids, been
for my nieces, Like, okay, you're there, I'm gone. Yeah,
I don't know, whatever it is, Yeah, I'm going. And
if I miss work, I miss work. I mean, it's
not eme with my kid, but it's his family stuff
comes first.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
It does, does, yeh.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
But you can't abuse it because I just I don't know. Correct,
you can't abuse it, and then you can't fault somebody
when you do abuse it for picking up on the
fact that you're abusing it. Correct, And so you can't
you can't play both sides. Like that's the thing. And
now it's hard to go to a parent and say
you're parenting too much or whatever, so you can't really
say anything. But like as the parent, you got to
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read the room and be like, man, I've used this
one a lot. It's and it's putting my teammates in
kind of a weird spot, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And it's like.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Maybe I got to be aware of that, right, and
and the perception and how it might make me look
to the team.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Right. And you may get asked to do more stuff
because you don't you know, like, oh, Fred, I'll do it,
like he doesn't have other responses.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
It's like, don't decide that for me, you know what
I mean? Like I just feel like sometimes.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Like that also happens where more falls on people that
they just assume will have more free time instead of
just asking the person that needs.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
To be asked.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Man, that's yeah, the hill that I will always die
on because I used to get so much shit before
I even had kids, because I'm a busy person.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
We all here are busy people.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
People believe it or not, you can be busy without children, correct.
And I used to go and this one friend of
mine who thought that it's because she had a kid
and I didn't, that I wasn't busy and this and that,
and my life wasn't fucking shit and I was so mad.
And now I am a mother, and I will still
say that I had a life even before my daughter,
and I know people can be busy without kids.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
It's just a different busy.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I'm not really that busy. I just say no
to a lot of shit. I've just had it.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
You can't compare people's busyness or like, it's not up
for anyone to decide like what's more important or how
you live your life and decide that for someone else.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I spent twenty years of my life developing this little
career and being busy all the time, and now I
just choose not to be.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Well, you worked for it.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I choose now.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Don't get me wrong. There's enough shit that I have
to do that keeps me busy. But I'm not trying
to get busy er. I am not trying to get
busy or I'm not I'm not like, man, I don't
have it. I'm not busy enough. Let me get some
more busy shit. No, no, no, no. I love the
business come to me, and I moderate as much business
as I can handle. But there was a time where
it was just NonStop. It was just NonStop, and I
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took it all on. And now I sit back and
I'm like, can I ask to watch my kid tonight,
Like you don't have a kid, mind your own fucking business.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You don't know what what was your question?
Speaker 8 (18:21):
My question is, at what point did you not that,
I say, like, stopped doing that, because I don't think
you ever stoped hustling this industry, But at what point
did you kind of sit back and go like, Okay,
I'm at a point now where I don't have to
say yes to everything, or I don't have to I
don't know, keep networking.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Or doing this or doing the next one.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
No, it's not that, it's just it's not that I
have a stop networking. I have a stop caring.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I haven't stopped working towards, you know, making the show
better and all these different things. But I mean I
used to just say yes absolutely everything, and I just
don't anymore because I don't know. I've decided that it's
a trade off. I've decided that, like, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
You've earned the right to absolutely. You gotta now prioritize
what's important. You have to you have to don't bring
yourself quality over quantity.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Right, Yes, I guess I just decided that I'm going
to put more energy into the stuff that I have
to do well yes as opposed to I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I really don't know how to answer that question because
I don't think everybody I'll be honest, I think I'm
privilege should be able to do it. I don't think
everybody gets away with it. I think most people that
I know should be saying yes to everything and shouldn't
be skipping anything. But and I'm probably I try and
do I try and lead by example and do stuff
that other people wouldn't expect me to do. But for
the most part, though, I've gotten a point where I'm like,
(19:32):
fuck it, I need I got There's so much other
stuff in my life that I haven't focused enough on
in the last twenty years. Family, my relationships, friendships, you know,
finding a partner, all this stuff I've just sort of
put to I don't know. You know, it's traveling, living,
you know what I mean. Like, there has to come
a point and I'm older than you guys, so it's
(19:54):
happened where it's like, what am I working so hard
for if I don't get a chance to breathe and
enjoy any of them? You know, Like I don't want to.
I don't want to run myself crazy and then die
and then have money in the bank. You know that
I earned, but I didn't get to do anything with it,
or enjoy it, or take a breath, or enjoy my life.
I mean, shit, there there are entire cities I lived
in that I don't even remember. I lived in Austin
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for three and a half years. I lived in Charlotte
for four. I worked all the fucking time, night and day,
and I don't remember, like, I honestly don't remember a
lot of it.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Well, I was not present for any of it.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
That's how you got here, though, right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So it worked out, But like the entire time, I
was in entire fuck and the periods of my life
where all I was thinking about was whatever I'm doing
now is to get me to the next thing. Of
course I was not present, and you're right, that's the
way it worked. I supposed to get to a certain point,
but I guess if I had it to I don't know.
It's hard because you say, if you could go back,
you'd be more present. But if I was more present,
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then would I'd have been working as hard?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And it's hard. I don't know. I don't know how
to answer the question.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
So cultural, Like I feel like there are whole other
countries that have way different priorities, and here it's like
if you're working yourself tired and you you know, have bags.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Under your eyes, like that's that's the American way.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
You're supposed to be exhausted from how hard you work,
you know, Whereas other cultures, you know, they prioritize a siesta,
a prioritize you know, taking long weekend. Like here you'll
get shamed for, you know, taking time off or whatever.
And it's like it's very like in to be you know,
exhausted by your work and it is that the only
important thing in life?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
It's not, but it's so hard because you know, there
are people who I can think of who I think
there may never be a time where these people don't
just have to be available to do everything because that's
sort of their utility, Like that's what that's what they're
needed for. Like, everyone has a role, and it's not
always going to be fair and it's not always going
to pay these same dividends. Now, there are other people
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in this industry who all I keep hearing is how
hard they work and I'm going and I'm not this
is no shade, But then I'm going, fuck I do
any of that, Like, yeah, it's a lot of work,
but it's cool ass shit and it feed each other.
And these people are making millions of dollars. So if that's, yes,
that's hard work, it's time consuming, I'd be happy to
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do those jobs versus the guy who's working their ass
off doing jobs that are undesirable. So it's I don't know,
it's still hard work, but it's not the same hard work.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's just not everything's fair and not everything's even, and
not everyone's going to get the same end result from
their effort. But I guess, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's why with this quiet quitting and all this shit
sort of gets to me because it's like you got
two choices. You can cruise and then just take what
you get. You can work your ass off and then
hopefully be rewarded for working hard and working smart and
being a great contributor. Or maybe you get fucked. But
if you get fucked, at least at least you applied
(22:47):
yourself right, Like at least you tried. You didn't make
up your own rules and then you didn't climb and
then you don't know why. So I don't know, and
people get all shitty when we start talking about this
because it's like, well, these corporations make billions and you
to you know what, guess what they're always gonna make.
There's always gonna be corporations making billions. There's always gonna
be people who make more than you. There's always gonna
be somebody who started the damn company who gets advantages
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that you don't get.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It just is.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But I guess my thing is like for these people
that just want a cruise because they feel like they're
being taken it taken advantage of, it's like, okay, well cruise.
Where then if you get fired, like whose fault is that?
Is it the major company or is it the fact
that you thought you could get away with doing less?
Or do you just work your ass off and like
really make your you know, make yourself invaluable and hope
(23:33):
for the best, you know, because I don't. I guess
I don't think you're gonna get anything that you want
unless unless you do that right, Like, no, very few
people just get more just for doing less. It does happen, Oh,
it happens, but those honestly, that is not the majority.
The majority of people, there is a correlation, I would say,
isn't this fair? The majority of people, there is a
correlation between working hard and applying yourself and more reward,
(23:57):
I would say, I would say, that's a better place
to be then, of the mindset that everyone in the
world's fucking me and I'm not getting paid enough. Because
I hate to say this, but the people that I
hear saying this shit are not in a position to
say this shit. The people that I have actually heard
say out loud to me, I don't get paid enough
for that. You're lucky to be getting paid for it
at all. And I'm thinking of specific examples. I'm not
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thinking of everybody who's ever said that, because guess what,
they're also you can cite me examples of people who
are not getting paid enough for the important work that
they're doing. Fucking teachers don't get paid enough, nurses and
doctors and first responders and police officers. I mean, we
can go on and on about people who work hard
and put their lives at risk and don't get paid enough.
But what's interesting to me is when I think of
the people that I've heard actually say this shit out loud.
(24:42):
When I hear it, I'm going there's a reason why
you're saying that out loud and why you're disgruntled. And
it kind of has a little bit to do with
that attitude.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
But and again, people.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Gonna hear this, They're gonna go, well, but but here's
the different you know, But what about this about you
know what, there's always going to be an exception, someone's
always going to get taken advantage of. Not everybody's going
to get what they deserve. That's just what am I
going to do about that? What can I possibly say? Like,
it's just a way it goes. And yeah, I'm speaking
from a privileged position, and then I've gotten a lot
(25:15):
of a lot of things that bounce my way. But
you also have to be in the right spot. And
how do you get to the right spot. Well, you
work hard, and yeah, put your best foot forward and hopefully,
you know, hopefully you get what you have coming.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
Yeah, but also I get I think too.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
What I always think too is even if the reward
doesn't come right away, at least you're picking up skills
and other things that you can take with you because maybe,
like whatever the next adventure you might have, like you're
better equipped because you said yes to everything, you learned
all the skills that you could. And maybe it's more
of a long game than like, you know, an immediate game,
because a lot of times I've gotten screwed over before,
(25:53):
you know, but at least I know, like, Okay, well
I feel confident in what I know and what I've learned,
and I can maybe take this somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Need be, you know, I mean I would say not
that it not that it's a competition or to quantify,
but I mean, you probably you have at least two
full time jobs by choice.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
By the way, we tried to talk to you for this.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
We tried, We tried to talk to you out of one,
like you chose to have two full time you like
we promoted you to this position on our show, and
you didn't want to give up your old job.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
I tell myself that one's a week I asked.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
And I begged you to give up your old job.
But you want it both because that's just who the
fuck you are. But like, imagine if you'd said no
to one or the other. Let's say, let's say we
come to you and we're like, Jason, you're really great,
we want you to be on the show every day,
and you're like, no, it's too much work. Well, then
twenty years from now, are you gonna sit there and
go I'm so glad I didn't do that work, or
(26:45):
are you gonna go fuck? What could have become of
me if I had expanded into that part of my career?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
What would have happened? And that's that's the worst.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
The worst is And I'm sure we could all think
of times from the past where we didn't apply ourselves.
Maybe we weren't mature enough, maybe maybe we didn't know better.
But I can think of like in school and athletics
and stuff growing up where I didn't have the right mentality,
And now I look back and go, fuck, if I'd
only applied myself, if I'd worked harder, if I'd known
to work harder, and I'd known how to work smarter, like,
(27:17):
I could have gotten a lot more out of that.
And that's a bad feeling, yeah, and we all have it,
and I think a lot of it has to do
with maturity or perspective or whatever. But the last thing
I ever want is to be you know, I don't know,
seventy years old in my rocking chair and go I
had a lot of opportunities and I just said no
to because well, I wasn't getting paid for it, or
I didn't get paid enough for it, or or I
(27:38):
just didn't want to work that hard. That's a shitty
feeling because then you always get to wonder, if I'd
only applied myself, where could I be? And I guess
I'd rather apply myself and fail or not have it
go my way than not do it, and then wonder,
you know, because you're certainly not going to get any
advantages if you don't do the shit that nobody else
(27:58):
wants to do.
Speaker 10 (28:00):
I never want to regret anything, for sure, but.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I will say I think it's generational. I think it's situational.
But there are people listening to me right now going
fuck that if I don't get paid X amount of
dollars Fred, And what do you know, because you're the
you know, guy with a name on the door or whatever.
It's like, Well, but I wouldn't always I don't.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, I mean yes, do I think corporations fuck their
major corporations all over the world are fucking their employees
and taking all the money for the Yes, of course there,
but like what what.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Are what are you and I going to do about that?
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Are we just not gonna try?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Like not everybody gets I mean it's like exasperating, like
now everybody gets to sit in the corner office. Sorry, it sucks,
like none of us are.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Well, he's not going to change it by like not
you know what I mean, by doing a half assed job,
Like that's not how you may if you want to
make a change. There are other ways, but it's certainly
not quietly just not doing your job till someone notices.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
What ship did you do Kiki? Before you got to
the actual thing you wanted to?
Speaker 9 (29:00):
Oh my god, I'm doing a lot of shit?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well yeah, I mean but you did a lot of
shit that had nothing to do with this.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh hell yeah, only to get the shot at this
that you never would have gotten if you weren't doing
the other shit.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Absolutely, they had nothing to do with this.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Absolutely.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
I tell people all the time, like I was like,
how do we get in the radio?
Speaker 7 (29:17):
How we do this?
Speaker 9 (29:17):
Like, bro, just get in the door, get in the door,
do whatever job. It's open and do the ship to
you the best of your ability.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Don't half ass.
Speaker 9 (29:24):
It's so many people walking around this building right now
that want this microphone and they're in other positions, but
they're half ass in those positions. When I was in
the commercials department, I was the best damn commercial girl
you could find.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
I got promoted at bonuses, all type of stuff from
really paying attention to commercials that I didn't give a
fuck about. But I had to do it in order
to stay in the building and.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Work my way. And that's why you have access to others.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Sit.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
Yeah, Like people get into a role and it's like
it's not your ideal role, So then you just bullshit
your way through and hope you know and tell everybody
what you deserve. Nobody gives a fuck what you deserve.
You don't deserve anything until you do someth work like I.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
It's so annoying, and we all know the people who
didn't apply themselves at that thing that had nothing to
do with the thing, and then now they didn't get
either either thing and they're like, I got fucked.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
It's like, but did you, like did you or do
we really.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Know whether or not you got fucked because you never
even allowed yourself to get to the table to be fucked.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
You were not at the fucking table.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
You weren't fucked.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, yeah, right right, like you weren't even there to
get fucked.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
You must be present to get fucked.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Me. Trust me, I have to show up to work
every day, open the door, just to see if they're
gonna fuck.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Me today, get over exactly. You know, if I don't
show up, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I'm very impassionate about this topic because because I'm just
grateful that my family taught me how to work and
uh and taught me that some things are worth working for.
And I mean again, it doesn't make me any better
than anybody else, but I definitely think there's just a
shift in mentality, and there's just it's not linear, it's
(31:09):
not fair. There isn't necessarily going to be proportioned to
how hard you work and how much you get. But
I also, you know, just I've already said it before,
but like, how do you expect to get the thing
if you don't lay the ground work? I mean, you
have no chance then none. So that's why I think
that some of this stuff is flawed because yes, you
could go through life being like, well it's just not fair.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, but that's a given.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
No, nothing, most no, And our attention spans are shorter
because of the way the world is now, and so
I just think it's like a bunch of different things
coming together to form or people could get famous overnight
for saying hawk tua you know. So I think like
a lot of people are just like, oh, you know,
I want to go viral. I want to do I
want it right now?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You know so well also, and this is probably going
to be controversial too, but we all know the people
who no matter where they work, no matter what they're doing,
or whatever circumstance they're in, they're the ones that always
get fucked. And it's like, if you're at what point
do you look at yourself and say, why am I
always getting fucked?
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Like?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Am I weak? Am I? I mean?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
And again, maybe you're just that unlucky. But I guess
I would encourage people to look introspectively, which we all do,
we all have to do at whatever level, and be like,
is this not working out for me because of them?
Or because of me? And by the way, if he
answers them, then the answers them. But if you're not
asking yourself that question, and you're noticing a theme in
(32:34):
your life, there's a possibility to answers you. And you
might need to be or at least a portion of you,
and you might need to be willing to look in
the mirror and say, I need to adjust something here
to get a different outcome. But we all know the people.
We've all got them in our life where everybody's out
to get them and nothing works out for them because
of everybody else. It's like, I don't know. You gotta
(32:57):
go to the table to get fucked. You're never gonna
know if you're gonna get fucked if you.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Don't go to the table.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
The podcast the fuck table.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You gotta go to the table, see if you're gonna
get fucked. If you don't look at the table, you'll
never know. You'll maybe you'll do the fucking. You never know.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
Pot twist.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, I know I'm not getting fucked. I'm not doing
the there's no fucking going up. But I'm at the table.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
You're at the table.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Here, we are there you go, So name the podcast
something about tables and fucking.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
And you got a boss.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
It was a true, I think I work for you.
Some days, I don't know. I think you're the boss
these days.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
These days, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You're the one to make sure that this ship works
and you're the boss. So yes, yes, boss got it.
Welcome to the table.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Fuck me? No wait, whoa? All right, we gotta go.
Thanks True Tangent. Bye,
All right, let's do a Tangent. I think it's girls'
(00:01):
night on the Tangent. Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Hit
the thing.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the Tangent with the bread show, giving me all
the we couldn't talk about on air.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
All right, So Paulina and Jason are off running around
doing technical things. I don't know, timing things and putting
things here and there. And I really don't know what
happens outside this room.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I got the microphone, I got the on button, and
I speak, and I just hope it goes out into
the ether. I hope that what we're saying is heard
by people. I really don't know what happens once it
leaves the room, though, I don't know satellite dishes and
internets and do flotchis and servers and.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm listening network operations and I have no idea where
that is or what it is. But that's something something
to do with that I don't know. Anyway, those guys
are handling it. So it's the three of us today
on the Tangent. Let's talk about those fuckers behind their back.
I want to sure, of course, what's the morality Monday.
We didn't get some morality Monday because I didn't know
we had one. So let's do moraliti Monday.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I realized I should have put it yesterday and then
I was like, oh crap, got a got await for
the next Monday.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
Okay, So here's my morality Monday.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
This is a real life situation.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
So a lot of people could be listening listening from wherever,
obviously to this podcast. But in Chicago, we have a
public transit system called the L right, right, and dogs
are not allowed on the L.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
However, it's a train.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Yeah, it's a train. It's like a subway that's not underground,
it's above ground.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah for the most part.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Yeah. Yeah. And there's a lot of rules for the L.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
However they're not really usually followed, right you got I
saw a dude molesting himself.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
You know, I've seen people You're.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Not supposed to do that. It's it's discouraged to do
those things.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
But people do your you know, smoking crack whatever, you
can do that. Oh you can't. I would think so
because I see it all the day.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You're allowed to smell crack, right, just don't smell crack
and molest yourself at the same time.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You can't do that.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Well, that's just logistically different one of the other.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
And so one of those rules is no dogs allowed,
which I definitely understand why that rule was made for sure. Okay,
So the other day my boyfriend took his dog. He's
I think he's only done it twice in his whole life,
took his dog on Neil. Okay, he posted a picture
of her on the l and he got killed for it.
Killed for it, okay, because it is against the rules, right,
(02:22):
And so him and I got into it. I said, listen,
I do think you're in the wrong on this one.
I think it's against the rules.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Whatever. Well, his thing is literally there was a guy.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Smoking crack two seats away, and I said, haven't you
heard the old Two wrongs don't make it right?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, and if we're breaking the rules, why do we
have to publicize that we're breaking the ruals? Like, just
break the rules, right, Like, you don't have to break that.
I think would probably piss everybody off, as you're breaking
the rules and you're showing off.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Well, he wasn't like showing off?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, you posted on a social media platform, right, Well.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yeah, it was just like how good she was being
on it. I don't know that he was showing.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Off, but I mean that would be like me committing
a crime and then posting a video and being like, hey, look, everybody.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
A cute dog with you.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
When I committed the crime.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
Yes, that makes the different.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So if I got a cute dog while I'm breaking
the rules, and it's like, well, well, I mean the
dog is cute.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
So yeah, she's cute, she's very well behaved, she stayed close, whatever.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
But I do I do differ on him, like on
this situation than he does.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
And he's like pointing out all the illegal stuff that's
going on, and and some people and they were split
right in the comments.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Some people said okay, like.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Because of allergies, because of this or that, or I'm
scared of dogs.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Other people were like she's a good girl, like let
it happen. Whatever.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Again, I think pointing to all the other illegal stuff
doesn't make it okay for you to break the rule.
But I thought it'd be an interesting morality money because
people were so split about it.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, I think it's obviously two different ends of the spectrum.
But right, I guess if you're getting away with something
that you're not supposed to do, right, then don't flaunt it.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Oh so that's your issue with it.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Not.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I think that's why he got any kind of smoke
is because otherwise it's like it just happened and it
was people.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Going I'm a largic and I'm scared of.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Don't But that's what I mean. He hadn't posted it,
then there's no smoke.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Well, a woman yelled at him on the train. That's
why he posted it. Yeah, so like she came.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Up and yelled him. My boyfriend brought his dog on
the oul, which is a.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Little I just walked back.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yeah, I'm recapping for Paulina.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
But he points that, you know, people have their weener
out and are smoking cracks, so it should be okay.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Yeah, I mean like fair is fair. So I would
say that's the Lisa.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
Those scariest thing lifting on the platform before on the
on the old l and I brought my.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Cat in an uber before.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
Yeah I have, it's a little bit different, but I
put her in my bag and I didn't say anything.
Oh so you didn't get one of those pet because
there are not ubers, No God, Okay, I put mewing.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
No, Miss Cleo is.
Speaker 8 (04:40):
She's a good girl, Like she follows directions. She's like
really like you know about that, about that life. And
this is my old apartment back in the day, and
I just had it. I didn't have a car, so
I had to like get to my mom's house, right,
and I took an uber I.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Mean, you know, I mean, everybody knows I'm a huge
animal guy and I like dogs more than I like people.
And that's a jet that's a universal statement that I am.
I am fine to stand by.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I can think of more dogs I like right now
at the top of my head than I do people.
But I do understand that people's fear of dogs is real.
People's allergies to dogs is real. I get that. I
do think some people overreact. But like if I'm just
walking down the street and mine in my business and
my dog is well behaved and you freak out, well,
(05:23):
come on, we live in a society. I guess there's
a reason why you're not supposed to do it on
the train. So I wouldn't do it. I probably wouldn't
be it. I probably wouldn't open myself up to that.
It's a confined space, we have to share it. So
I probably wouldn't have done that. I probably would have
figured out another way. But you know, whatever it is.
When no one got hurt, everyone's fine. Yeah, but and
I definitely wouldn't have posted about it just because I
(05:44):
don't know, just because it doesn't even matter even if
he was in the right. Are people are assholes and
there's just gonna be anything you post anything on social media,
and you got to expect to get smoke for nothing.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
We get smoke for nothing all the time.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, it was interesting saying people are like I'm sick
of these dog people thinking they can bring their dog
wherever they want.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Dogs need to stay at home. I was like, oh
my god.
Speaker 9 (06:06):
I'm shocked. This is the first time I learned that
they're not allowed singing. I feel like dogs are everywhere.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, I actually didn't know that either, to be honest, anywhere.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
I just went to a restaurant.
Speaker 9 (06:15):
We sat outside to eat, and the lady behind us
she had her dog and I sat down, and the
dog jumped up and sat down next to me, and
I was like, oh, hey, cutie, and she turned around
like his name is Harvey, and I was like, okay, girl,
get your dog because I'm trying to welcome him to
the dinner, and you mad because I might be misidentifying
his gender, Like, girl, get this dog now. But it's
(06:35):
just like, I feel like dogs are everywhere, so to
be outraged at this point, I feel like it's just.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Well, even as a dog guy, I do agree that
people have completely abused the whole thing. They've abused the
service dog, the therapy dog. They've abused dogs in public,
and then you've got people don't clean up after their dogs,
or their dogs aren't properly trained, but yet they're supposedly
service dogs but they're not. I mean, there's a lot
of abuse of that going on, which I think the
only reason that I have any issue with it is
(07:03):
because it makes it more difficult for the people who
do need it. But that's true with everything I feel like.
I feel like any opportunity for an advantage these days
is being used, regardless if it applies to you or not.
Wheelchairs at the airport, it's an epidemic. It's an epidemic.
I'm sorry, but a year ago, two years ago, there
(07:24):
were not thirty people with wheelchairs trying to get on
the plane on any given plane. Now, go on any
Southwest flight, you got ten people in wheelchairs and because
they all get on first. And I'm not saying that
people who need a wheelchair shouldn't be able to do that.
They should, but I'm telling you all these people don't
need it.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
How do you feel about yourself when you sit there
and you see somebody who clearly needs it and you
really don't like, how do you just so you can
get on the plane get a better seat? Like that's
bad karma, man, like do it never? That's just I
don't like. What are you doing? Like, don't I don't know,
I don't like it. And again, I'm not talking about
the people who need stuff, but there's all kinds of
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stuff going on right now where people are taking advantage
of the loopholes. They just did a whole thing, or
we did the story a couple weeks ago about Disney
having to like you essentially have to prove that you
have a disability now or something. I don't remember what
the story was exactly, but essentially, people were faking disabilities
to get to the front of a fucking space mountain,
you know, and it's like, what are you doing, Like,
do you think the people that actually have the disability
(08:27):
and need that kind of access, do you think they
wouldn't prefer to wait in line and not have whatever's
going on with them?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And so you're and you just don't want to wait.
So it's like, oh, this is rouming me.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I don't like it. I don't like it. Guys, what
else is going on? What else? Kind of catch up?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
When I held a kid on Friday, Rufino's kid. You know,
I like kids that aren't mine, I really do. I
loved it, like, Okay, that was nice. Here you go
take it back. And then I got to go take
a nap or something. I was busy. I had to
go my nap time. It was late for my nap actually,
but I thought it was important to meet the kid.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's just crazy to me that, like, people give their
kids to me so willingly, knowing I have no experience.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
It's okay, you know, we got to start somewhere. Yeah
you do great, though, all you guys do.
Speaker 10 (09:15):
I appreciate you being the guinea pig, you know, your
kid being the guinea.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Pig she was. And I even left you alone for
a couple of minutes.
Speaker 10 (09:20):
Yeah, you walk out the door, and I was like, uh,
I forgot holding this baby.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I'm not I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I don't want this for one second to come off
like I'm saying that raising kids is easy, because I
know it is not.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I know it is not.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
But I will say those of us who have never
had a kid and don't have a lot of experience
with little kids, I think in our minds, we've created
this concept that it is the kid's going to break,
that it is impossible that we are going to break
the kid, that like there's no way that we could
do it. And I think what we seem to forget
is almost well, everybody who has a kid now was
(09:53):
at one time that person who didn't have a kid
and thought they might break the kid.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So I'm not minimizing what it takes to raise a child,
but I am saying that in my mind as a
guy who's never had one of my own and hasn't
done the twenty four to seventh thing. In my mind,
I'm holding this kid like it's a China doll and
like I'm going to hurt it or do something. And
then Rufio takes him and is like, you know, it'll
kind of swings him or like not in an unsafe way.
(10:18):
But I'm just saying, like I think for I think
it's a mystifying like thing for those of us who
haven't done it. And then I think once you've done it,
I think it some of the some of the mysticism
goes away.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I also think that people who don't have children, and
I say this as someone who wants children, should get
like a coupon book of like five separate excuses where
we can cash those in in a place where someone
with children may use their child as an excuse, you know,
because if there's some sort of child something going on,
you can get off of work, you can get out
(10:51):
of certain things, no questions asked. And I would like
just five no questions ask scenarios where I just need
to be out of something and I don't get any
questions any background.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's fair because as a as a single person or
a kidless person. Really it's amazing we don't I haven't really,
it hasn't happened on here on this show in a
long time. But it used to be anything that was
undesirable certain people couldn't do because they have their kid.
And then it turned out they didn't have their kids.
They were just using their kid as an excuse, or
they weren't even gonna do shit with their kids. They
(11:22):
just didn't want to go. And it's like, say that
it's fucked up, like they don't just because I don't
have a kid means I got to do the thing
you don't want to do.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
And that's one of the benefits of having a kid.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Like my mom used to like if she wanted to
leave somewhere be like Kilan doesn't feel well, you know,
And that's one of the benefits.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Because it's hard to raise kids, so you should get that.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
But I also think us childless people should get a
couple times where no one looks a second glance because
we can just say no, we're.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Not because it's funny, like when it's a free meal
or something the kid all of a sudden has childcare.
But like when it's but when it's like when it's
some bullshit, you know, like we got to go do
this free thing for the you know, free people, you
know what I mean, it's all I can't do that,
or if it's far away time, or if it's inconvenient
and then and now and now I'm kind of being shitty,
(12:08):
but these people will also look at you like you're
the asshole, and they'll be like, but I have a kid,
and it's like, okay. Well, first of all, first of all,
don't say that to many people, because one, like, that's
your choice. Two, unfortunately, you may say that's the wrong person.
You may you may be saying that to a person
who wishes they had a kid for whatever reason. And
(12:29):
the third thing is I get it that there should
be a lot of grace given to parents. There's shit
there should and like anybody on here that's got kids
shit to do, you go do the kid. The family
stuff always comes first. But what back to my original point,
which is it can become very selective over time, where
it's like, you know, if you're gonna miss everything, the
(12:50):
good and the bad because kid's got soccer games or whatever,
I got it. But if you're only gonna go to
the good shit and miss the bad shit because of
your quote unquote kid, I'm on to you.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, but I agree with that. I agree with you, Caitlin.
I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
I do agree with you, And for me personally, I
think i'm a little bit of the opposite where I'm
afraid to say no, even though like I'm I'm in
my air of saying no, and I think most of
us are here, like especially Jason, like you've really grown
over the past couple of years, Like if you don't
want to be as something like you don't and I
love that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
And I feel like a lot of.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
Us have become that in a good way, right, Like
we're protecting our space, whatever our boundaries. But I'm also
afraid to say no because then I'm afraid y'all not
going to invite me no more. That's where I'm afraid
to go to and that's not and I will say
no if I don't want to go somewhere.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
I have no problem saying no.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
But I also feel like, oh damn, Like, well, if
I continuously say no or like don't go to something,
then I won't be asked to do that or you
guys won't invite me out.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Like that's my fear. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah? Well, and you also don't want to you don't
want to become the person who's not reliable, correct because
you have a child. And again, like there's such a
major difference between I physically cannot go because this obligation
comes first no one to watch my kid, or because
I I want to miss this major milestone event. But
then you've got the other side where it's I'm just
(14:05):
I just don't want to go, and I'm using my
kid as an excuse, and like you can't then be
mad when the good shit comes along and you don't
get invited to that either, you know what I mean, Like, well,
I just assumed you couldn't go because you're a kid.
It's like, oh, I can go to that. It's like, well,
but now hold on, now you can go. Well to
hold on, We're either going to be consistent, you know
what I mean, with exception, or we're not right.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
It's like the old argument about smokers.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
You know how smokers like they'll go out and have
SIGs and have a fifteen minute break or whatever, whereas
people who don't smoke, they just keep working.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
This happens in relationships too. I've noticed, like I have
friends who have used their wives, and wives who've used
their husbands as the excuse for not being able to
go to stuff when it really turns out that they
just don't want to go. But the problem with doing
that is if you don't know, if you don't know
well enough, then you start to resent the partner because
it's like she doesn't let you do shit or he
(14:55):
doesn't let you do anything, like what the fuck? And
then you realize, like more than once, I've caught my
buddies where I've been like, so, you guys were tied
up last night or whatever, and she'll be like I
wouldn't even home, yeah, oh yeah, And I'll be like, oh, well,
so and so said that he couldn't come out last
night because you said no, and she's like I never
fucking said that, right, And then you're like, okay, well
now you're the ass Like I thought you were the asshole,
(15:18):
but actually my buddy's the asshole for just using you
as an excuse to not do it. Yeah, it happens
a lot, I think.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Yeah, yeah, just like be honest, that's the best thing.
If you don't want to do something, or like hey,
like that's just like not I'm not interested in that,
then just say that, don't use the kid thing, and
then Dolton won't be mad when you're not getting paid
or when you're not invited to the whatever dinner group dinner.
I don't know, making things up right, but like, yeah,
it's a fine line. It's hard, but I love that
you guys are supportive. So actually, Freddy just said this too.
(15:44):
You're like, you know, if it's if it's actually kid
related and important, Like I think this group does a
really good job of making that a priority.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
You know, for a parent, I think that's dope.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Oh yeah, I mean, like I don't have kids, been
for my nieces, Like, okay, you're there, I'm gone. Yeah,
I don't know, whatever it is, Yeah, I'm going. And
if I miss work, I miss work. I mean, it's
not eme with my kid, but it's his family stuff
comes first.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
It does, does, yeh.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
But you can't abuse it because I just I don't know. Correct,
you can't abuse it, and then you can't fault somebody
when you do abuse it for picking up on the
fact that you're abusing it. Correct, And so you can't
you can't play both sides. Like that's the thing. And
now it's hard to go to a parent and say
you're parenting too much or whatever, so you can't really
say anything. But like as the parent, you got to
(16:27):
read the room and be like, man, I've used this
one a lot. It's and it's putting my teammates in
kind of a weird spot, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And it's like.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Maybe I got to be aware of that, right, and
and the perception and how it might make me look
to the team.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Right. And you may get asked to do more stuff
because you don't you know, like, oh, Fred, I'll do it,
like he doesn't have other responses.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
It's like, don't decide that for me, you know what
I mean? Like I just feel like sometimes.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Like that also happens where more falls on people that
they just assume will have more free time instead of
just asking the person that needs.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
To be asked.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Man, that's yeah, the hill that I will always die
on because I used to get so much shit before
I even had kids, because I'm a busy person.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
We all here are busy people.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
People believe it or not, you can be busy without children, correct.
And I used to go and this one friend of
mine who thought that it's because she had a kid
and I didn't, that I wasn't busy and this and that,
and my life wasn't fucking shit and I was so mad.
And now I am a mother, and I will still
say that I had a life even before my daughter,
and I know people can be busy without kids.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
It's just a different busy.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I'm not really that busy. I just say no
to a lot of shit. I've just had it.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
You can't compare people's busyness or like, it's not up
for anyone to decide like what's more important or how
you live your life and decide that for someone else.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I spent twenty years of my life developing this little
career and being busy all the time, and now I
just choose not to be.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Well, you worked for it.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I choose now.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Don't get me wrong. There's enough shit that I have
to do that keeps me busy. But I'm not trying
to get busy er. I am not trying to get
busy or I'm not I'm not like, man, I don't
have it. I'm not busy enough. Let me get some
more busy shit. No, no, no, no. I love the
business come to me, and I moderate as much business
as I can handle. But there was a time where
it was just NonStop. It was just NonStop, and I
(18:11):
took it all on. And now I sit back and
I'm like, can I ask to watch my kid tonight,
Like you don't have a kid, mind your own fucking business.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You don't know what what was your question?
Speaker 8 (18:21):
My question is, at what point did you not that,
I say, like, stopped doing that, because I don't think
you ever stoped hustling this industry, But at what point
did you kind of sit back and go like, Okay,
I'm at a point now where I don't have to
say yes to everything, or I don't have to I
don't know, keep networking.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Or doing this or doing the next one.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
No, it's not that, it's just it's not that I
have a stop networking. I have a stop caring.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I haven't stopped working towards, you know, making the show
better and all these different things. But I mean I
used to just say yes absolutely everything, and I just
don't anymore because I don't know. I've decided that it's
a trade off. I've decided that, like, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
You've earned the right to absolutely. You gotta now prioritize
what's important. You have to you have to don't bring
yourself quality over quantity.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Right, Yes, I guess I just decided that I'm going
to put more energy into the stuff that I have
to do well yes as opposed to I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I really don't know how to answer that question because
I don't think everybody I'll be honest, I think I'm
privilege should be able to do it. I don't think
everybody gets away with it. I think most people that
I know should be saying yes to everything and shouldn't
be skipping anything. But and I'm probably I try and
do I try and lead by example and do stuff
that other people wouldn't expect me to do. But for
the most part, though, I've gotten a point where I'm like,
(19:32):
fuck it, I need I got There's so much other
stuff in my life that I haven't focused enough on
in the last twenty years. Family, my relationships, friendships, you know,
finding a partner, all this stuff I've just sort of
put to I don't know. You know, it's traveling, living,
you know what I mean. Like, there has to come
a point and I'm older than you guys, so it's
(19:54):
happened where it's like, what am I working so hard
for if I don't get a chance to breathe and
enjoy any of them? You know, Like I don't want to.
I don't want to run myself crazy and then die
and then have money in the bank. You know that
I earned, but I didn't get to do anything with it,
or enjoy it, or take a breath, or enjoy my life.
I mean, shit, there there are entire cities I lived
in that I don't even remember. I lived in Austin
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for three and a half years. I lived in Charlotte
for four. I worked all the fucking time, night and day,
and I don't remember, like, I honestly don't remember a
lot of it.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Well, I was not present for any of it.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
That's how you got here, though, right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So it worked out, But like the entire time, I
was in entire fuck and the periods of my life
where all I was thinking about was whatever I'm doing
now is to get me to the next thing. Of
course I was not present, and you're right, that's the
way it worked. I supposed to get to a certain point,
but I guess if I had it to I don't know.
It's hard because you say, if you could go back,
you'd be more present. But if I was more present,
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then would I'd have been working as hard?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And it's hard. I don't know. I don't know how
to answer the question.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
So cultural, Like I feel like there are whole other
countries that have way different priorities, and here it's like
if you're working yourself tired and you you know, have bags.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Under your eyes, like that's that's the American way.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
You're supposed to be exhausted from how hard you work,
you know, Whereas other cultures, you know, they prioritize a siesta,
a prioritize you know, taking long weekend. Like here you'll
get shamed for, you know, taking time off or whatever.
And it's like it's very like in to be you know,
exhausted by your work and it is that the only
important thing in life?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
It's not, but it's so hard because you know, there
are people who I can think of who I think
there may never be a time where these people don't
just have to be available to do everything because that's
sort of their utility, Like that's what that's what they're
needed for. Like, everyone has a role, and it's not
always going to be fair and it's not always going
to pay these same dividends. Now, there are other people
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in this industry who all I keep hearing is how
hard they work and I'm going and I'm not this
is no shade, But then I'm going, fuck I do
any of that, Like, yeah, it's a lot of work,
but it's cool ass shit and it feed each other.
And these people are making millions of dollars. So if that's, yes,
that's hard work, it's time consuming, I'd be happy to
(22:07):
do those jobs versus the guy who's working their ass
off doing jobs that are undesirable. So it's I don't know,
it's still hard work, but it's not the same hard work.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's just not everything's fair and not everything's even, and
not everyone's going to get the same end result from
their effort. But I guess, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's why with this quiet quitting and all this shit
sort of gets to me because it's like you got
two choices. You can cruise and then just take what
you get. You can work your ass off and then
hopefully be rewarded for working hard and working smart and
being a great contributor. Or maybe you get fucked. But
if you get fucked, at least at least you applied
(22:47):
yourself right, Like at least you tried. You didn't make
up your own rules and then you didn't climb and
then you don't know why. So I don't know, and
people get all shitty when we start talking about this
because it's like, well, these corporations make billions and you
to you know what, guess what they're always gonna make.
There's always gonna be corporations making billions. There's always gonna
be people who make more than you. There's always gonna
be somebody who started the damn company who gets advantages
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that you don't get.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It just is.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But I guess my thing is like for these people
that just want a cruise because they feel like they're
being taken it taken advantage of, it's like, okay, well cruise.
Where then if you get fired, like whose fault is that?
Is it the major company or is it the fact
that you thought you could get away with doing less?
Or do you just work your ass off and like
really make your you know, make yourself invaluable and hope
(23:33):
for the best, you know, because I don't. I guess
I don't think you're gonna get anything that you want
unless unless you do that right, Like, no, very few
people just get more just for doing less. It does happen, Oh,
it happens, but those honestly, that is not the majority.
The majority of people, there is a correlation, I would say,
isn't this fair? The majority of people, there is a
correlation between working hard and applying yourself and more reward,
(23:57):
I would say, I would say, that's a better place
to be then, of the mindset that everyone in the
world's fucking me and I'm not getting paid enough. Because
I hate to say this, but the people that I
hear saying this shit are not in a position to
say this shit. The people that I have actually heard
say out loud to me, I don't get paid enough
for that. You're lucky to be getting paid for it
at all. And I'm thinking of specific examples. I'm not
(24:19):
thinking of everybody who's ever said that, because guess what,
they're also you can cite me examples of people who
are not getting paid enough for the important work that
they're doing. Fucking teachers don't get paid enough, nurses and
doctors and first responders and police officers. I mean, we
can go on and on about people who work hard
and put their lives at risk and don't get paid enough.
But what's interesting to me is when I think of
the people that I've heard actually say this shit out loud.
(24:42):
When I hear it, I'm going there's a reason why
you're saying that out loud and why you're disgruntled. And
it kind of has a little bit to do with
that attitude.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
But and again, people.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Gonna hear this, They're gonna go, well, but but here's
the different you know, But what about this about you
know what, there's always going to be an exception, someone's
always going to get taken advantage of. Not everybody's going
to get what they deserve. That's just what am I
going to do about that? What can I possibly say? Like,
it's just a way it goes. And yeah, I'm speaking
from a privileged position, and then I've gotten a lot
(25:15):
of a lot of things that bounce my way. But
you also have to be in the right spot. And
how do you get to the right spot. Well, you
work hard, and yeah, put your best foot forward and hopefully,
you know, hopefully you get what you have coming.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
Yeah, but also I get I think too.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
What I always think too is even if the reward
doesn't come right away, at least you're picking up skills
and other things that you can take with you because maybe,
like whatever the next adventure you might have, like you're
better equipped because you said yes to everything, you learned
all the skills that you could. And maybe it's more
of a long game than like, you know, an immediate game,
because a lot of times I've gotten screwed over before,
(25:53):
you know, but at least I know, like, Okay, well
I feel confident in what I know and what I've learned,
and I can maybe take this somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Need be, you know, I mean I would say not
that it not that it's a competition or to quantify,
but I mean, you probably you have at least two
full time jobs by choice.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
By the way, we tried to talk to you for this.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
We tried, We tried to talk to you out of one,
like you chose to have two full time you like
we promoted you to this position on our show, and
you didn't want to give up your old job.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
I tell myself that one's a week I asked.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
And I begged you to give up your old job.
But you want it both because that's just who the
fuck you are. But like, imagine if you'd said no
to one or the other. Let's say, let's say we
come to you and we're like, Jason, you're really great,
we want you to be on the show every day,
and you're like, no, it's too much work. Well, then
twenty years from now, are you gonna sit there and
go I'm so glad I didn't do that work, or
(26:45):
are you gonna go fuck? What could have become of
me if I had expanded into that part of my career?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
What would have happened? And that's that's the worst.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
The worst is And I'm sure we could all think
of times from the past where we didn't apply ourselves.
Maybe we weren't mature enough, maybe maybe we didn't know better.
But I can think of like in school and athletics
and stuff growing up where I didn't have the right mentality,
And now I look back and go, fuck, if I'd
only applied myself, if I'd worked harder, if I'd known
to work harder, and I'd known how to work smarter, like,
(27:17):
I could have gotten a lot more out of that.
And that's a bad feeling, yeah, and we all have it,
and I think a lot of it has to do
with maturity or perspective or whatever. But the last thing
I ever want is to be you know, I don't know,
seventy years old in my rocking chair and go I
had a lot of opportunities and I just said no
to because well, I wasn't getting paid for it, or
I didn't get paid enough for it, or or I
(27:38):
just didn't want to work that hard. That's a shitty
feeling because then you always get to wonder, if I'd
only applied myself, where could I be? And I guess
I'd rather apply myself and fail or not have it
go my way than not do it, and then wonder,
you know, because you're certainly not going to get any
advantages if you don't do the shit that nobody else
(27:58):
wants to do.
Speaker 10 (28:00):
I never want to regret anything, for sure, but.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I will say I think it's generational. I think it's situational.
But there are people listening to me right now going
fuck that if I don't get paid X amount of
dollars Fred, And what do you know, because you're the
you know, guy with a name on the door or whatever.
It's like, Well, but I wouldn't always I don't.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, I mean yes, do I think corporations fuck their
major corporations all over the world are fucking their employees
and taking all the money for the Yes, of course there,
but like what what.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Are what are you and I going to do about that?
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Are we just not gonna try?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Like not everybody gets I mean it's like exasperating, like
now everybody gets to sit in the corner office. Sorry, it sucks,
like none of us are.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Well, he's not going to change it by like not
you know what I mean, by doing a half assed job,
Like that's not how you may if you want to
make a change. There are other ways, but it's certainly
not quietly just not doing your job till someone notices.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
What ship did you do Kiki? Before you got to
the actual thing you wanted to?
Speaker 9 (29:00):
Oh my god, I'm doing a lot of shit?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well yeah, I mean but you did a lot of
shit that had nothing to do with this.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh hell yeah, only to get the shot at this
that you never would have gotten if you weren't doing
the other shit.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Absolutely, they had nothing to do with this.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Absolutely.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
I tell people all the time, like I was like,
how do we get in the radio?
Speaker 7 (29:17):
How we do this?
Speaker 9 (29:17):
Like, bro, just get in the door, get in the door,
do whatever job. It's open and do the ship to
you the best of your ability.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Don't half ass.
Speaker 9 (29:24):
It's so many people walking around this building right now
that want this microphone and they're in other positions, but
they're half ass in those positions. When I was in
the commercials department, I was the best damn commercial girl
you could find.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
I got promoted at bonuses, all type of stuff from
really paying attention to commercials that I didn't give a
fuck about. But I had to do it in order
to stay in the building and.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Work my way. And that's why you have access to others.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Sit.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
Yeah, Like people get into a role and it's like
it's not your ideal role, So then you just bullshit
your way through and hope you know and tell everybody
what you deserve. Nobody gives a fuck what you deserve.
You don't deserve anything until you do someth work like I.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
It's so annoying, and we all know the people who
didn't apply themselves at that thing that had nothing to
do with the thing, and then now they didn't get
either either thing and they're like, I got fucked.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
It's like, but did you, like did you or do
we really.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Know whether or not you got fucked because you never
even allowed yourself to get to the table to be fucked.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
You were not at the fucking table.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
You weren't fucked.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, yeah, right right, like you weren't even there to
get fucked.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
You must be present to get fucked.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Me. Trust me, I have to show up to work
every day, open the door, just to see if they're
gonna fuck.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Me today, get over exactly. You know, if I don't
show up, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I'm very impassionate about this topic because because I'm just
grateful that my family taught me how to work and
uh and taught me that some things are worth working for.
And I mean again, it doesn't make me any better
than anybody else, but I definitely think there's just a
shift in mentality, and there's just it's not linear, it's
(31:09):
not fair. There isn't necessarily going to be proportioned to
how hard you work and how much you get. But
I also, you know, just I've already said it before,
but like, how do you expect to get the thing
if you don't lay the ground work? I mean, you
have no chance then none. So that's why I think
that some of this stuff is flawed because yes, you
could go through life being like, well it's just not fair.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, but that's a given.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
No, nothing, most no, And our attention spans are shorter
because of the way the world is now, and so
I just think it's like a bunch of different things
coming together to form or people could get famous overnight
for saying hawk tua you know. So I think like
a lot of people are just like, oh, you know,
I want to go viral. I want to do I
want it right now?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You know so well also, and this is probably going
to be controversial too, but we all know the people
who no matter where they work, no matter what they're doing,
or whatever circumstance they're in, they're the ones that always
get fucked. And it's like, if you're at what point
do you look at yourself and say, why am I
always getting fucked?
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Like?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Am I weak? Am I? I mean?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
And again, maybe you're just that unlucky. But I guess
I would encourage people to look introspectively, which we all do,
we all have to do at whatever level, and be like,
is this not working out for me because of them?
Or because of me? And by the way, if he
answers them, then the answers them. But if you're not
asking yourself that question, and you're noticing a theme in
(32:34):
your life, there's a possibility to answers you. And you
might need to be or at least a portion of you,
and you might need to be willing to look in
the mirror and say, I need to adjust something here
to get a different outcome. But we all know the people.
We've all got them in our life where everybody's out
to get them and nothing works out for them because
of everybody else. It's like, I don't know. You gotta
(32:57):
go to the table to get fucked. You're never gonna
know if you're gonna get fucked if you.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Don't go to the table.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
The podcast the fuck table.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You gotta go to the table, see if you're gonna
get fucked. If you don't look at the table, you'll
never know. You'll maybe you'll do the fucking. You never know.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
Pot twist.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, I know I'm not getting fucked. I'm not doing
the there's no fucking going up. But I'm at the table.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
You're at the table.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Here, we are there you go, So name the podcast
something about tables and fucking.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
And you got a boss.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
It was a true, I think I work for you.
Some days, I don't know. I think you're the boss
these days.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
These days, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You're the one to make sure that this ship works
and you're the boss. So yes, yes, boss got it.
Welcome to the table.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Fuck me? No wait, whoa? All right, we gotta go.
Thanks True Tangent. Bye,
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