August 29, 2023 • 38 mins
On the NFL's Official Hard Knocks Podcast, Dan Hanzus and Colleen Wolfe recap the fourth episode of the "Hard Knocks Training Camp with the New York Jets". Dan and Colleen start the show by discussing Dan's favorite moment of the series, Hard Knocks paying homage to 'The Sopranos' (01:52). Dan and Colleen then jump into some story lines they've been following including them seeing a new side of Aaron Rodgers (08:30) and the wide receivers room developing through camp (12:40). After the break, Dan and Colleen debut a new game (19:10) and cast their votes for Hard Knocks MVP (22:34).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For some men in this room, it's gonna be the
last time you ever straddled up. And I say that
not to apply pressure to make it bigger than it is.
I say that, so tomorrow, soak it up, and then
when it comes for your time to play, let it rip.
Because if you do get cut because you weren't quite
(00:21):
good enough as the team saw it.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That will hurt. But you could live with that.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You get cut because you didn't go hard enough, that's
regret and that will eat you alive. So it's very simple.
Empty the contain. It's gonna be an unbelievable environment. I
can't wait to see it, man, I can't wait to
see it. I'm not gonna sleep very good tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
From the Chris Westling podcast studio, it's the Hard Knocks Podcast,
the official podcast of it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Hard Knocks.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And that was well, I'm Dan Hansis with my co
host Colleen Wolf. That was Jeff Ulbrich, the defensive coordinator
of the Jets, offering up his latest hype speech to
the players going into their last preseason game. And that's
one of those fun things about this show.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So for many of those guys, their last game ever,
that's it.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And you don't think about that when you're just following
the sport and we and I do it on the
other podcast all the time, kind of poo poo the preseason.
But these guys are playing for their football lives and
it's real.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's real human stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
And I also just like that he's using empty the tank.
It's all gas, no break like. There's a lot of
a lot of car references. I guess too, even though
it's a plane organization.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's right macho.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, you know, but I like that and that and
that hype speech from Oulbrick goes right into Colleen. I
think the highlight of the season for yeh a shot
for shot recreation of the iconic opening credit sequence of
The Sopranos naturally with that song woke up this morning
(02:07):
as the musical theme.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And I'll tell you what, kin it.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's all clicking here. You have the synergy of two
Titanic HBO productions. You have the Jets deep ties to
Jersey and the most famous TV show ever set in
the Garden State. You have Robert Sala, the head of
the New York Jets, kind of playing the role driving
in the car is Tony Sopranos, the.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Tight shot of his eyes in the rear view mirror.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
The head of the DeMeo crime family driving from the
Jersey side of the Lincoln Tunnel shot for shot.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
So Dan actually like check this out and cross reference
the two and played them side by side.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
He was freaking out when we were watching it.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
I mean I kind of want too, because like I
just love the Northeast in general, So like, give me Sopranos,
give me New York, New Jersey, all of it.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The nostalgia was and hard driving from the Jersey side
of the Lincoln Tunnel to their respective homes. For Tony,
it was his suburban estate in North Caldwell. For Sala,
it's MetLife Stadium, or, as Aaron Rodgers proudly announced in
this episode.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Welcome to Jetlife Stadium.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And I've said it so many times Connie in digital
print for years, on NFL dot com and on this
podcast that we've been doing together for almost two full seasons.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, an ultimate episode tonight.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Hard Knocks is the greatest sports docu series that's ever existed,
and it's because of creative flourishes like that Sopranos homage,
because it's a simple but like fiendishly clever idea executed
by obviously some of the most talented people in the medium.
(03:51):
It's a chef kiss Knie in my favorite moment of
the season.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
If anyone can pull it off, it's going to be
the people at NFL Films n HBO done perfectly. And
to be honest, I was in on this episode from
the very opening scene when they were cutting bagels and grilling.
Maybe it was a grilled cheese, maybe it was a
French toast. I don't know, but the key to my
heart is a bread product of some sort. So I
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was already there.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I mean, what is the for me?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And it varies, but the go to northeast, you know,
New York, North New Jersey, Southern New Jersey, Philadelphia area.
For me, it's an everything bagel, hammegg cheese, salt, pepper,
ketchup and give me a little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Frank's red hot on it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Ooh, that's to me like the hangover cure, huh or
just fat guy hungry cure. Yeah it's but yeah, seeing
those shots it does. We've been out here on the
West Coast now for over a decade. Connie and this
season is it makes you kind of homesick.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
I know. I was just about to say that it's like.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Watching The Sopranos does for me when I did a
rewatch with my wife this past year, who's from Well
you did. I'm watching it in a total different headspace
as someone now who's kind of longing for I kind
of grew up in town that looked like where Tonian
grew up, and it's this show, which is even though
it's the New York yet it's very much a New
Jersey vibe. Yeah, right down to their floor and park headquarters.
So it's very cool.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
It's perfect. I'm surprised though, you're not going Taylor pork roll.
And I do feel like my dad always calls it
tailor pork roll, which I like, and I feel like
that is maybe not the way that people just say
pork roll or like, what what do you people say?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I grew up literally on the border of New York
and New Jersey in Rockland County, separated Bergen County.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I would drive to New Jersey to get gas.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
Yeah, it's cheaper and they pump it for you.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, and you have to my love stupid weird, but
so I'm not a true New Jersey in and the
pork roll didn't really translate to the northern New Jersey
side of where I was what in the same way
that it's a staple at other places, But I certainly
had it. Yeah, the disco fries, and I've done I've
been to a million New Jersey diners in my life.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You're doing really hungry right now?
Speaker 7 (06:06):
Do you do cream chip beef?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I've had it, and I've enjoyed it.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
It is one of my favorites in the entire world.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
And my dad and I it's like a tradition and
it's a sodium bomb and my dad and I would
go out and if I ever go home for Thanksgiving,
we'd go out Thanksgiving Eve and then we would come
home one am. My dad would whip up some cream
chip beef.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Speaking of dads, I think we might have to get
the number one Jets fan in my life. Keith hanss
my old man on the show before it's over one
episode left, so maybe that's something for next week. So yeah,
so you have that great Sopranos moment on the show.
You have Olbrick, the DC who's really had obviously a
(06:54):
great season of Hard Knocks setting the tone for where
they are at and training camp now. But Aaron Rodgers
has been the star of the season. He's the star
of the Jets, He's the key to everything. I thought
this was a really interesting Rogers episode. I think the
most interesting Aaron Rodgers episode since he's episode one the premiere,
(07:15):
which was all about Rogers and.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Before we as on TV is a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah that's true, but before we get into it, Leev
Schreiber is the voice.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yes or Knocks can't get him.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
It's it's it's sad, it's disappointing, but that's okay.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
We work around this.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I would like.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Maybe maybe a little little elbow over and our friend
Ken Rodgers over there at NFL Films, maybe we can
get a helicopter landing for the Streiver. Yeah here, it's
so far and get him on the finale last week?
Is it possible? Where is there any money in the
couch cushions to make it happen? I'm just throwing out there.
We still don't know how much that helicopter costs. We
don't think about it all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Anyway, The Lee d Ever Quote of the Week with
Jason Zummalt standing in for the great actor.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
This Saturday, Aaron Rodgers will take the field as a
jet for the first time. No place for a neck beard.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
All the thought on the neck beard because that ties
into something we're going to talk about later. But he
did clean up his act and you saw it with Rogers. Connie,
forget this is a great New Jersey episode so far.
Forget about Springsteen. The boss in New Jersey right now
is officially Aaron Rodgers. And as this team is preparing
(08:37):
for Rogers' first preseason action in over half a decade years,
I mean he hadn't, but he played two series against
the Giants. You see some of the tension on the
practice field, and you know, remember what Randall Cobb said
last week in episode three, do not get on this
man's bad side. He will not throw you the ball.
(08:59):
Is the exact cop quote. He's gonna get pissed off.
He will not throw you the ball. Well, he got
pissed off. And NFL Films was.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Miked up in there to catalog it basically twelve to
fourteen yards of one damn drive.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
It's believable, it's it's so relatable.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
This is drop throo balls five and three wrong routes
and a fall start.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
I mean seven en counting to be honest.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Like this was that's sorry New Jersey too.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
It was the first time that we got to see
this other side of Aaron Rodgers. Everything so far up
unto this point has been very zen, very like just
he's introspective.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And schil norkal dude.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's almost sometimes it feels like it's a bit like
he's laying it on a little thick that he's that guy.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But here's the competitor coming out, and you.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Know lies beneath, right, what lies beneath is a furious
competitor that does not stand for bs now that we're
getting to the nitty gritty with Week one Monday Night
Football against the Buffalo Bills down the line, but for Rogers,
and he admitted it to the media after they played
their final preseason game and he got in he was nervous,
like Aaron Rodgers, eighteen year veteran who's won a Super Bowl,
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who's been in countless playoff games, was nervous to play
two series and just seeing him take total control of
the field, it's a reminder that he's not just the
quarterback in the face of the franchise. Now he's the
guy that everyone looks to, and he can say to
Garrett Wilson, for instance, seventeen, step into my office and
it's Rogers on one knee on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Come here, I'm going to talk to you. We're going
to figure this out.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, And sure enough we see in that practice they
do figure it out and they end on a good note.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Just really, it's like Aaron Rodgers is the god here.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
He is the one that is in charge. He can
figure this out.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
But when you talk about him being nervous before a
preseason game since he hasn't played him one since twenty eighteen,
and obviously all of this attention that he's getting with
hard knocks and being in the New York market like,
it reminds me of a conversation I had with Jerry
Rice a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What a name drop, I know, but I'll never.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Forget this because I couldn't believe it. He said that
he would get so nervous before every game throughout his
entire career that he would throw up like and it
never went away, and those nerves were always there. And
I think, no, matter how long you've been in the league,
how much success that you've experienced, if that's how you
operate like that is so I think it was an
(11:36):
interesting window into Aaron Rodgers and how he goes about
his business, but his frustration at camp and that practice,
it felt like to me, the angrier he got, the
sharper he was. And there's a couple people we work
with here at NFL Media who I've thought that about.
When they get angry, they instantly become laser focused and
(11:59):
they can like they're operating at their highest capacity when
they are when they're annoyed or when they're angry.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I've always been like, going back to my school days,
but then in my newspaper days and even you know,
having deadlines here at NFL Media, like I'm a procrastinator
by nature. I need there to be something hanging over
me and this needs to be done in three hours.
That's when I lock in. These guys that's get mad,
get disrespected, they lock in.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
We saw Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Get mad in a different way later on, and we'll
get to that. I think the other big plot line Connie,
in this episode, they did a lot on the wide
receivers and everyone knows the top of the depth chart.
Garrett Wilson, who caught an Aaron Rodgers touchdown pass in
that preseason game and looks like he's going to be
a superstar this season. Alan Lazard, he's he's locked and loaded,
(12:51):
McCole Hardman, locked and loaded, loaded. Randall Cobb, he's Rogers's buddy,
so he's locked and loaded, and he continues to get
a lot of screen time as well. But there are
guys like Exavier Gibson, undrafted free agent Jason Brownly, and
it's one of those it's one of those hard knocks tropes.
They can make anybody, including undrafted free agents, look like
(13:14):
Jerry Rice. Yeah, And that's how Gibson and Brownly came off,
both in practices and then the preseason game.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
And it was just adorable.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
They're bromance that they have, the two of them, like
they are so wholesome. They are competing for a final
one one spot, that fifth spot, and they.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Are just like hanging out playing ping pong.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Like I found it really funny Xavier Gibson's disdain for updowns,
because that was like, if you lose, you gotta do whatever,
up downs, push ups, whatever, and it was just like,
it seems so cute the two of them, like it's
a legit love for each other that they have. And
I think that that's cool because they're competing obviously, but
they can put that aside.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And this is interesting from a football standpoint because today
was cut down day in the real world and Gibson
made the team, Brownly made the team. Another first year
wide out, Irvin Charles, who we haven't seen Doc Kevin
Mesh show, you haven't met him yet, made the team.
So those guys are all safe as of right now
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on the initial roster of fifty three. That could change
when the churn of rosters, which gets really cruel when
you make the final fifty three and then you know,
the Jets could pick up another wide receiver that got
cut today and one of these guys could get whack.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
So they just our boy Jerome Cap didn't make it.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, I think it's interesting what we didn't see as
well in this episode. You see Jerome Cap not be
able to make a dent in the box score in
his last preseason game, and then you see him walking
down the hallway. Would have liked to see the conversation
and Sala there but shout out that he got an
(14:54):
Eminem shout out on Twitter.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I know, and we didn't even talk about this last week,
that Eminem now back to back years, he's been an
important plot line of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
He was in Detroit hanging out with the Lions, and
now he pops back up with your own caps. So
he's a Hard Knock superstar at the.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Eminem on the Lions sidelines. I remember being a little
bit uncomfortable to watch.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
It was weird.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
This was more organic.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, he's so famous that you could tell the players
were a little nervous to be around him, and Eminem
was a little nervous to be around the players.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
I'd like to use that nervous energy.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And then I thought the other thing I was interesting
in terms of an editorial choice, was a lot of
this conversation about who's going to fill out this wide
receiver depth chart and they even talk about it. You
hear Liev say it that there's one spot available. Well,
there's two spots available. Because Corey Davis stunningly announced his
(15:48):
retirement out of nowhere. I kind of was expecting all
the build up through this episode to end with a
look at the Corey Davis decision and maybe that comes
next week.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
We'll see, but that that is.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
The wide receiver down low for the Jets, and they
gave a lot a lot of run probably, And there
was also you know, our buddy Tanzel Smart, who's been
a ongoing figure in terms of the underdogs for this series.
He got a lot of run in this episode as well,
so he's a little more of that. We even got
(16:20):
Theucci board, that's right, what happens away from the facility,
and you saw Tanzel Smart and the other d linemen
who are all.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Kind of adorable too.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Oh, I got it.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
They're like all brothers making a Carcucci board and some
type of seafood dish that looked.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Like, I think crawfish of some sort.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
It was a family recipe, just a button the wide
receiver conversation. Though I absolutely love Randall Cobb's family. They
have been a constant throughout Hard Knocks. But when he
had the block the penalty in the last game and
seeing them watching it and seeing his wife be like,
oh great, I think we're gonna get a fine in
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the mail. Last year it was about night teen thousand
dollars in fines, so.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
It's like the equivalent I could I buy like a
dumb framed poster of from Once upon a Time in Hollywood.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Okay, okay, is this an attack that feels like it?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Because I did it too.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I know, I know you guys, you and John your
husband did it as well. And it costs like one
hundred and eighty five dollars And my wife's like wait, what,
like it's not going to bankrupt us?
Speaker 8 (17:22):
But it's like, wait, that was like this is dumb.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We maybe check with me before we dropped the two.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Honey always says you must differentiate between wants and needs.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
There you go, can't fixt He's a wise man.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
All right, let's take a break here and when we
get back, we'll share our MVPs episode four. Victor voting
system is starting it you know, oh oh, we're getting
close to the end now. And then of course, uh
well not of course, little surprise coming up after.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
You know, I don't like surprises.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Were getting surprised. We'll be right back, all right, Welcome
(18:18):
back to the Hard Knocks Podcast, the official.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You know how one, because uh, check out the episode we're.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Talking about today.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
The last shot you see Aaron Rodgers holding up his
index finger. Mike Joe Naman so many years ago. And
then check out.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
The words at the bottom of Chiron.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Okay, he's really into the Chiron business.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
The Chiron reads.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Make sure you watch the credits.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Listen to Around the NFL Hard Knocks Recap wherever you
get your podcasts. That I mean, doesn't get more official
than that. Connie, Uh, want to play a game? Sure,
let's do a game show. Oh no, here we go.
All right, everybody, it's time to play your favorite game.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Travis Oor, Jeff, my heart is pounding.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
What is this?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You may or may not be aware, Colleen Wolf that
Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelcey and Jet's defensive
coordinator Jeff Ulbrick have a very similar.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
White boy flow.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So what I'm gonna do It's very simple, okay, and
you if you are victorious here, you win a nineteen
eighty seven Toyota Cameron.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Okay, that's lightly used.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
It was found in the swampson the metal link card.
There's a body in the trunk.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Fifty chance it was in Queen's.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It's fine, all right, here we go, okay, Travis or Jeff.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Very simple Okay, you have to get everything right.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
To get the camera, to get the camera.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
God on this, you can get one rung the camera.
If you get everything right, I'll get the body out
of the trunk.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
Great, great, all right, let's hit it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Eric Roberts the first voice.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You didn't really have anybody at practice.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It was kind of the dog days and just the fellas.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Travis, that's Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
That one.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
We didn't really have anybody at practice. It was kind
of the dog days and just the fellas.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Wow, okay, you're you're hot already. Here we go, pistol.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
All right, here we go strong fast athletes. Whoa wait,
you're good at this.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
I'm really good at ad voices.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That one would have had me as well. All right.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Next, Yeah, he's got a superpower of speed and get
off and it shows up every time he's on the field.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
What all right, let's got another one. Gotta get her once.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
He's created a legacy for himself in this league.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Jeff, that's a great player.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Oh nineteen eighty, there's more.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Last one.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
This one will decide whether the body comes out of
the camera.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah. Well, first things first is great game planning. Hello, right,
everybody should do it. Thank you, We'll see you next time.
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
So one of my favorite things to do as I
drive out of here in my brand new camery.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It only has two hundred and ninety four thousand miles
on it.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
In addition to the corpse steak.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
The steering wheel just falls off. It's in my hand.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
One of my favorite things to do is listen to
a press conference from like Eagles and then name check
who the questions.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Are from, just like from.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Memory of working from all like Jeff McLean, uh huh, Elliott, Jack.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Furnish, John Gonzales exactly. Well, wow, I'm impressed.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
The best person to transcribe in the NFL is Jerry
Jones because he speaks in a halting cadence that is
almost meant for twenty nine year old part time copy
editors to transcribe. That's a nightmare, it was, But look
at us now, all right, so there you go. All right,
let's get to the MVP talk. Now, let's see, let's see.
(22:25):
Let's see. It's a vector voting system, and at the
end of next week's finale episode, we will unveil the
MVP of season.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Keep on meaning to look this up. I think it's seventeen.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Eric help us out with that season in the Dean
of Hard Knocks. It is a hallowed honor. And now
the votes. The voting counts equally every week, as we
hit on last week. But now it's time to really
separate the men from the boys. As were third plays
vote for MVP worth two points.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I believe.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
All right, So this may mess up the vector voting
system in the end, but I can't.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
I have to be true to myself.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You gotta be true.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Third place is the entire defensive line. I love them
so much. They're so cute together. They hang out together,
and I know that's true of like so many position groups,
but they have such great personalities and such different personalities.
And when they were all at Tanzel Smart's house having
like this nice little meal together and making the Carcucci
(23:34):
board and Tanzel Smart's wearing a shirt that says I
want to eat a Carcucci board and Solomon Thomas is
making meat roses from.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That was impressive. I gotta say Salomon Thomas is a renaissance.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
He truly is, because he's the first one that brought
up going to Broadway and seeing a show. Now he's
out here like putting together these gorgeous charcuterie boards for me.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
The one. It's called Carcucci's right, this show, the one.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
And like John Franklin Myers, who was supposed to be
watching Smart's daughter, she was just like crawling around in
between the couch cushions while he was playing Xbox, and.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
He's like, this is how I watch my kids. What's
the problem here?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
So they're all so adorable and I love their friendship
that they have, but I really would love for Hard
Knocks to pay off them going to Broadway because we
heard at the very end of the show that some
of the guys talking about different shows that they've seen
or liked, and I want to go to a Broadway
show with them.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Honey. I think you're a wise woman, and that feels
so natural. Having watched every episode of the show ever,
that feels like such an episode five right, Hopefully you're
not spoiling it, but that feels like a fun thing
to do.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, I had What do you got there? Grabbers? Do
you have an update?
Speaker 8 (24:51):
IMDb has this a season twenty of Hard Knocks? Oh twenty,
it's twenty ish.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
If it's not twenty it's twenty ish.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I had Tanzel Smart, So it's kind of the same
place as you. Yeah, do we want to maybe throw
it to somebody because you had the whole D line?
Speaker 7 (25:09):
I had the entire D line. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Should we just give Smart since he kind of like
represents him, you know what?
Speaker 7 (25:13):
That's great?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And I think again, today was cut down day in
the NFL, and it's not official as of right now
when we're taping this, but the practice reports from the
Beat reporters that Tanzel Smart was not seen on the
field today, which usually usually is a sign the player
did not make the team, which is a shame.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
They a song get hurt his shoulder, and they just
rubbed some Tiger bomb on it, which I could not
believe that that was the fix for it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
He played through it, and the reason he played through
is because he knew. He knew he was like almost
no other player on the defense on the bubble, and
he played through what was obviously had to be probably
an extremely painful injury and was just trying to get
by on an adrenaline and a little bit of bomb.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Like they had to convince him to go to the
X ray room. Like once they kind of like saw
how much he was in pain.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, And I thought there was a moment on the
sideline at the end of that preseason game where Smart
kind of looks up and he's a little undersized compared
to some of those other big dudes we've talked about here.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
And he says, you think I belong with you guys?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Right, Like it was like a really kind of a
sweet moment, and he was like almost like a little brother,
even though he might be older.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think he's twenty seven or so.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He wants that he wants that approval of them, And
I think it was maybe JLM was like John Franklin
Myers was like, yeah, man, you belong, you belong. Nice
moment and hopefully Smart lands on his feet if it's
not with the Jets.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Second place, Connie wait what oh okay, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, I'm with you. Box Step Box.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
Step second place is Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
There were so many moments from him.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
We talked about the frustration during the practice and then
he kind of like focused everyone wrangled them up, made
some sense of what wasn't working, and then we saw
it actually work. But I loved his exchange with jahad
Ward when they actually played the Giants in this game.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
It was so perfect. I think we have some of that.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, And just to set it up, it was Rogers
drops back to pass. It's during his final drive of
the game, and Ward hits him a little bit late
huh on a pass and Aaron Rodgers did not like
that at all.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Welcome on, what do that? Fine said, I know you are?
You know, I never heard you.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
I never I don't know who you are. I've never
heard of you.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
And then they come back at the end and Rogers
brings it back.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Again after he threw the touchdown pass.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Don't poke the bear?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
How many times? How many F bombs are dropped there?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Because I didn't really even notice it until they were
bleeped out, but not even that. It was also some
of his exchanges with Nathaniel Hackett, and it was very
gen Z of him to be wearing the wired headphones.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
It's super trendy.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Now.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
I don't think he does it because it's trendy. I
think he does because it is. He said he doesn't
want radiating.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I mean, is there anything more on brand than Aaron
Rodgers saying he doesn't trust air pods because of EMF
emissions being harmful to his brain. And maybe he'll be
proven to be right and half the population will be
dead in thirty years.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But also it's just the type of nonsense that I was.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Able to divorce myself with Aaron Rodgers once became a
quarterback of my favorite team. It's like, oh my god,
this guy. And he also I think he likes, oh
the young kids are wearing this. Yeah, TikTok okay. I
think that's part of it, and that's okay. Like I
think Aaron Rodgers like what I'm kind of taking out
of the Aaron Rodgers experience and is that he cares
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very much like what you think of him. And I
don't think that that makes you a bad person, because
I think everyone's like that to various varying degrees. But
there's definitely an image that he's projecting. It's not one
of those people is like, I don't care what you
think about me, this is who I am. I think
it's more carefully cultivated that he would admit. But what
this show has been good for for him, for his
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brand is you see the authentic side of him where
he's not protecting who he is, and you see the
competitor he is, and you see how that great interaction
with the fans, those kids at Jets practice. That Okay,
you could say that he knows the MIC's on him
and the cameras on, but that felt like a genuine
moment too, that so much has been made of Rogers
in the last few years, and he's taken a pr beating,
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and I have been vocal in my criticism of him,
like things he said during COVID that I thought was
misinformation from a very high public figure in American sports.
But the person he is, I think a good person.
And and does he put his foot in his mouth sometimes?
Does he sometimes try to be the cool guy? Sure,
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but I think he is a good person in addition
to being obviously a tremendou players.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
It's certainly a carefully curated brand that he's putting out there.
But I feel like Hard Knocks has been the best
thing for his brand because you get to see that authentic,
organic side of him that maybe he doesn't always have
out for everyone, but it's like when he's on the field,
like that's exactly who we thought he was.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
And I'll say a good way, yeah, And I'll say,
because he's this is a little bit out of order,
but it'll all work, all white boy flow. I have
Annon Rodgers my first place vote just because I thought that,
and I think hard Knock has been mindful of not
going too far down the Rogers rabbit hole every week.
But this was with his first preseason game and seeing
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the way he prepares and seeing the fire on the field,
it's just fun to see this guy, this once in
a generation athlete reeves start his career and having boots
on the ground here. It's very cool. So I give
Rogers a first place vote. My second place vote, I
believe is your first place vote.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Go ahead, we flipped on that. Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
He is just so fun loving. I need more Hacket
like everything. He's so funny and it's like, I want
to play for this guy. I wish I worked with
this guy, Like he.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Just want to fly around like a butterfly exactly.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
I love him. The floby was hilarious. So he's having
the conversation with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
After Aaron Rodgers, I guess had gotten like, you know,
his his neck beard fixed up or whatever. I got
a haircut and stuff, and Rogers says, like certain Pete,
there's certain people that can touch my hair.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Actually we have it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I have certain people that can touch my hair.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I would like to say that I'm one of them.
I also have a Floby glow. What dial it up
Floby right now? Type it in. You need to see
the Floby.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
They bring up YouTube, the greatest invention on the projection.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Screen through the exciting world of Floby precision haircuts.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
It's like from nineteen nineties.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's like the early nineties. I remember it. It's an
insane in commercial products.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm telling you how it didn't make it. I don't know.
I asked my mom for it all the time. She
never got it for me. She got me some buzzers.
But as the old Floby billy, there are really anything
better than a Floby.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Okay, Now he's someone Nathan Hackett, for better or worse.
I don't think he cares what people think. I think
there are gonna be probably people in the locker room
that are getting get sideway glances from time to time,
like this guy's at dork. But I think he's he's
very naturally himself. And yes, I think he's very so
much fun.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Even in that same meeting, he talked about how he
wants to be the touchdown firework guy who like, as
soon as anyone gets to the red zone, even though
he calls it the gold zone, Like this guy is
just waiting, waiting to like set off there.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I think the line is there's a up there in
the box waiting to hit the button.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
That's it. It's so good.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Yeah, it's just his.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
And then he's using the time in the film room
to show the players how they're not celebrating together or
a touchdown, Like it's not like who did what wrong here?
Or like how can we improve there, It's like, let's
make sure that these celebrations are in unison.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
He's such a positive guy.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
He's got obviously a sense of humor that he wears
on a sleeve, if that makes any sense, And he
you it makes sense. I've said this before and I'll
say it again. Why Rogers likes him so much. There's
no ego here. In fact, he knows the score. There's
no way. The fact that all you heard leading up
to the during the courtship of Rogers and the Jets
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was how much Rogers loved Hack. It you've seen it
over these past four weeks that he doesn't challenge Rogers
in ways that would rub Rogers the wrong way. He's
kind of like his wingman in a way. And I
also watch this and I understand why maybe it didn't
work out for him in Denver, because I don't know
if this is big chair energy, but to be the
wingman of one of the greatest quarterbacks who ever lived
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and be on the same page and have the respect
of the players because they understand that you're in it
and you're a fun guy, Like it's been a great.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Show for it.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
But we also saw him fired up, and we saw
like an angrier side of him when things weren't going
right in that practice. Hackett was pissed too, and he
was like, it's not all sunshine and butterflies all the
time with him, Isn't it weird though?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
When there are people in your life that are like
good time, happy people and then you see him mad
and it's just like a little bit more.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Like, Oh, I don't like it. Yeah, it's not for me.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Sean Kelly, Sean.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Kelly, Yeah, Sean was being sassy today.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
He's like the most positive guy in the world. Uh, huh,
the happiest guy I've ever known, Philadelphia's own. That's right,
But can you imagine Sean Kelly getting angry? No, I
wanted to be like disturbing, like there are people like that.
You can't imagine the mad just like we all have
our moments.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
I still can't really picture it, to be honest.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
But we have one more Hackey clip that I think
was my favorite clip. I clipped it and I want
to use it. I don't wants to brush over it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Cause it's it's a funny. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
I love the association of it.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Okay, go ahead and let her.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
We like to call this the Golden Day. Hey, this
is the Golden Day. Now, how many people here have
seen a movie all gold member?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
That makes me so proud? Right now? That is so great.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
We all know we talk about this as the red zone, right,
that's what most of the world calls it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It's not the red zone because that is what is red? Mean?
What the we call it the red zone for?
Speaker 8 (35:16):
Let's go get that.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Gold I don't know.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
I love Austin Powers movies, so that was.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I think you know it's a great point, though you
know what else he is popped up repeatedly in his
MVP conversation. Yeah, I am excited for next week's finale
because Hackett is a very real player. I don't want
to end on a sobering note, but one of the
best moments of episode three last week was Randall Cobb
clocking and then letting everyone on the sideline know that
(35:45):
Thomas more said runs like a bastard off the field
to stay loose because he's a dad.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
He was cut.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
He was waving today and he tweeted something like, don't
panic everybody. Maybe he's gonna come back and there's something
being worked out. I hope so, because I was looking
forward to watching mor said all year.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
We got it, we need it, we need we need
him back.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Also, we need to pay off Al the Jeweler Woody
Johnson's Shane.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
We had a listener, Joe.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Helstad shout out Joe Joey, who sent me the instagram
of Al the Jewelers so we could actually see what
the was.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
And it was Woody and the Jets.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Okay, we thought it.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
Was let's go Jets.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I can't teach stupid, No, you can't. Thanks Joe two
other things. The Jets defensive line coach is named Aaron
White Cotton. That's just wild to me. And I think
that's it. I think that's everything. Everyone was into the
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the song Ski by Sexy Red.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
Can you tell me how it goes?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I don't know, I don't know what's going on. Oh.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I also liked the song the New York New York version,
the cover forget It.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Give me Frank, I mean give me Frank.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Frank is a staple. It's a classic. We love it.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
You give me all blue eyes. Okay, that was.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
A good one.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
And then I also just thought it was kind of
touching at the end of that game in the locker
room that Sala was like, all right, this is it.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Like make sure you take a look around, hug.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Someone, go up to someone, like have those moments now,
because that's it.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
That is it. Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
We'll be back next week the season finale of Hard
Knocks Who with special guests, other special stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
It's a finale. It's got to be big.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Are there going to be bread products.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Until next week? Heed the call?
Speaker 3 (37:47):
You know it, salt pepper, ketchup, a.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Little bit of Frank, give me an everything, bagel extra
toasted
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Frank Sinatra, Frank's Red Hot, and Frank Everything A rank
all day,
For some men in this room, it's gonna be the
last time you ever straddled up. And I say that
not to apply pressure to make it bigger than it is.
I say that, so tomorrow, soak it up, and then
when it comes for your time to play, let it rip.
Because if you do get cut because you weren't quite
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good enough as the team saw it.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That will hurt. But you could live with that.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You get cut because you didn't go hard enough, that's
regret and that will eat you alive. So it's very simple.
Empty the contain. It's gonna be an unbelievable environment. I
can't wait to see it, man, I can't wait to
see it. I'm not gonna sleep very good tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
From the Chris Westling podcast studio, it's the Hard Knocks Podcast,
the official podcast of it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Hard Knocks.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And that was well, I'm Dan Hansis with my co
host Colleen Wolf. That was Jeff Ulbrich, the defensive coordinator
of the Jets, offering up his latest hype speech to
the players going into their last preseason game. And that's
one of those fun things about this show.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So for many of those guys, their last game ever,
that's it.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And you don't think about that when you're just following
the sport and we and I do it on the
other podcast all the time, kind of poo poo the preseason.
But these guys are playing for their football lives and
it's real.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's real human stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
And I also just like that he's using empty the tank.
It's all gas, no break like. There's a lot of
a lot of car references. I guess too, even though
it's a plane organization.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's right macho.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, you know, but I like that and that and
that hype speech from Oulbrick goes right into Colleen. I
think the highlight of the season for yeh a shot
for shot recreation of the iconic opening credit sequence of
The Sopranos naturally with that song woke up this morning
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as the musical theme.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And I'll tell you what, kin it.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's all clicking here. You have the synergy of two
Titanic HBO productions. You have the Jets deep ties to
Jersey and the most famous TV show ever set in
the Garden State. You have Robert Sala, the head of
the New York Jets, kind of playing the role driving
in the car is Tony Sopranos, the.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
Tight shot of his eyes in the rear view mirror.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
The head of the DeMeo crime family driving from the
Jersey side of the Lincoln Tunnel shot for shot.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
So Dan actually like check this out and cross reference
the two and played them side by side.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
He was freaking out when we were watching it.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
I mean I kind of want too, because like I
just love the Northeast in general, So like, give me Sopranos,
give me New York, New Jersey, all of it.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The nostalgia was and hard driving from the Jersey side
of the Lincoln Tunnel to their respective homes. For Tony,
it was his suburban estate in North Caldwell. For Sala,
it's MetLife Stadium, or, as Aaron Rodgers proudly announced in
this episode.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Welcome to Jetlife Stadium.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And I've said it so many times Connie in digital
print for years, on NFL dot com and on this
podcast that we've been doing together for almost two full seasons.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, an ultimate episode tonight.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Hard Knocks is the greatest sports docu series that's ever existed,
and it's because of creative flourishes like that Sopranos homage,
because it's a simple but like fiendishly clever idea executed
by obviously some of the most talented people in the medium.
(03:51):
It's a chef kiss Knie in my favorite moment of
the season.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
If anyone can pull it off, it's going to be
the people at NFL Films n HBO done perfectly. And
to be honest, I was in on this episode from
the very opening scene when they were cutting bagels and grilling.
Maybe it was a grilled cheese, maybe it was a
French toast. I don't know, but the key to my
heart is a bread product of some sort. So I
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was already there.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I mean, what is the for me?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And it varies, but the go to northeast, you know,
New York, North New Jersey, Southern New Jersey, Philadelphia area.
For me, it's an everything bagel, hammegg cheese, salt, pepper,
ketchup and give me a little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Frank's red hot on it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Ooh, that's to me like the hangover cure, huh or
just fat guy hungry cure. Yeah it's but yeah, seeing
those shots it does. We've been out here on the
West Coast now for over a decade. Connie and this
season is it makes you kind of homesick.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
I know. I was just about to say that it's like.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Watching The Sopranos does for me when I did a
rewatch with my wife this past year, who's from Well
you did. I'm watching it in a total different headspace
as someone now who's kind of longing for I kind
of grew up in town that looked like where Tonian
grew up, and it's this show, which is even though
it's the New York yet it's very much a New
Jersey vibe. Yeah, right down to their floor and park headquarters.
So it's very cool.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
It's perfect. I'm surprised though, you're not going Taylor pork roll.
And I do feel like my dad always calls it
tailor pork roll, which I like, and I feel like
that is maybe not the way that people just say
pork roll or like, what what do you people say?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I grew up literally on the border of New York
and New Jersey in Rockland County, separated Bergen County.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I would drive to New Jersey to get gas.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
Yeah, it's cheaper and they pump it for you.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, and you have to my love stupid weird, but
so I'm not a true New Jersey in and the
pork roll didn't really translate to the northern New Jersey
side of where I was what in the same way
that it's a staple at other places, But I certainly
had it. Yeah, the disco fries, and I've done I've
been to a million New Jersey diners in my life.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You're doing really hungry right now?
Speaker 7 (06:06):
Do you do cream chip beef?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I've had it, and I've enjoyed it.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
It is one of my favorites in the entire world.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
And my dad and I it's like a tradition and
it's a sodium bomb and my dad and I would
go out and if I ever go home for Thanksgiving,
we'd go out Thanksgiving Eve and then we would come
home one am. My dad would whip up some cream
chip beef.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Speaking of dads, I think we might have to get
the number one Jets fan in my life. Keith hanss
my old man on the show before it's over one
episode left, so maybe that's something for next week. So yeah,
so you have that great Sopranos moment on the show.
You have Olbrick, the DC who's really had obviously a
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great season of Hard Knocks setting the tone for where
they are at and training camp now. But Aaron Rodgers
has been the star of the season. He's the star
of the Jets, He's the key to everything. I thought
this was a really interesting Rogers episode. I think the
most interesting Aaron Rodgers episode since he's episode one the premiere,
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which was all about Rogers and.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Before we as on TV is a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah that's true, but before we get into it, Leev
Schreiber is the voice.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yes or Knocks can't get him.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
It's it's it's sad, it's disappointing, but that's okay.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
We work around this.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I would like.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Maybe maybe a little little elbow over and our friend
Ken Rodgers over there at NFL Films, maybe we can
get a helicopter landing for the Streiver. Yeah here, it's
so far and get him on the finale last week?
Is it possible? Where is there any money in the
couch cushions to make it happen? I'm just throwing out there.
We still don't know how much that helicopter costs. We
don't think about it all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Anyway, The Lee d Ever Quote of the Week with
Jason Zummalt standing in for the great actor.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
This Saturday, Aaron Rodgers will take the field as a
jet for the first time. No place for a neck beard.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
All the thought on the neck beard because that ties
into something we're going to talk about later. But he
did clean up his act and you saw it with Rogers. Connie,
forget this is a great New Jersey episode so far.
Forget about Springsteen. The boss in New Jersey right now
is officially Aaron Rodgers. And as this team is preparing
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for Rogers' first preseason action in over half a decade years,
I mean he hadn't, but he played two series against
the Giants. You see some of the tension on the
practice field, and you know, remember what Randall Cobb said
last week in episode three, do not get on this
man's bad side. He will not throw you the ball.
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Is the exact cop quote. He's gonna get pissed off.
He will not throw you the ball. Well, he got
pissed off. And NFL Films was.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Miked up in there to catalog it basically twelve to
fourteen yards of one damn drive.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
It's believable, it's it's so relatable.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
This is drop throo balls five and three wrong routes
and a fall start.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
I mean seven en counting to be honest.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Like this was that's sorry New Jersey too.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Exactly.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
It was the first time that we got to see
this other side of Aaron Rodgers. Everything so far up
unto this point has been very zen, very like just
he's introspective.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And schil norkal dude.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's almost sometimes it feels like it's a bit like
he's laying it on a little thick that he's that guy.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But here's the competitor coming out, and you.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Know lies beneath, right, what lies beneath is a furious
competitor that does not stand for bs now that we're
getting to the nitty gritty with Week one Monday Night
Football against the Buffalo Bills down the line, but for Rogers,
and he admitted it to the media after they played
their final preseason game and he got in he was nervous,
like Aaron Rodgers, eighteen year veteran who's won a Super Bowl,
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who's been in countless playoff games, was nervous to play
two series and just seeing him take total control of
the field, it's a reminder that he's not just the
quarterback in the face of the franchise. Now he's the
guy that everyone looks to, and he can say to
Garrett Wilson, for instance, seventeen, step into my office and
it's Rogers on one knee on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Come here, I'm going to talk to you. We're going
to figure this out.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, And sure enough we see in that practice they
do figure it out and they end on a good note.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Just really, it's like Aaron Rodgers is the god here.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
He is the one that is in charge. He can
figure this out.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
But when you talk about him being nervous before a
preseason game since he hasn't played him one since twenty eighteen,
and obviously all of this attention that he's getting with
hard knocks and being in the New York market like,
it reminds me of a conversation I had with Jerry
Rice a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What a name drop, I know, but I'll never.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Forget this because I couldn't believe it. He said that
he would get so nervous before every game throughout his
entire career that he would throw up like and it
never went away, and those nerves were always there. And
I think, no, matter how long you've been in the league,
how much success that you've experienced, if that's how you
operate like that is so I think it was an
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interesting window into Aaron Rodgers and how he goes about
his business, but his frustration at camp and that practice,
it felt like to me, the angrier he got, the
sharper he was. And there's a couple people we work
with here at NFL Media who I've thought that about.
When they get angry, they instantly become laser focused and
(11:59):
they can like they're operating at their highest capacity when
they are when they're annoyed or when they're angry.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I've always been like, going back to my school days,
but then in my newspaper days and even you know,
having deadlines here at NFL Media, like I'm a procrastinator
by nature. I need there to be something hanging over
me and this needs to be done in three hours.
That's when I lock in. These guys that's get mad,
get disrespected, they lock in.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
We saw Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Get mad in a different way later on, and we'll
get to that. I think the other big plot line Connie,
in this episode, they did a lot on the wide
receivers and everyone knows the top of the depth chart.
Garrett Wilson, who caught an Aaron Rodgers touchdown pass in
that preseason game and looks like he's going to be
a superstar this season. Alan Lazard, he's he's locked and loaded,
(12:51):
McCole Hardman, locked and loaded, loaded. Randall Cobb, he's Rogers's buddy,
so he's locked and loaded, and he continues to get
a lot of screen time as well. But there are
guys like Exavier Gibson, undrafted free agent Jason Brownly, and
it's one of those it's one of those hard knocks tropes.
They can make anybody, including undrafted free agents, look like
(13:14):
Jerry Rice. Yeah, And that's how Gibson and Brownly came off,
both in practices and then the preseason game.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
And it was just adorable.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
They're bromance that they have, the two of them, like
they are so wholesome. They are competing for a final
one one spot, that fifth spot, and they.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Are just like hanging out playing ping pong.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Like I found it really funny Xavier Gibson's disdain for updowns,
because that was like, if you lose, you gotta do whatever,
up downs, push ups, whatever, and it was just like,
it seems so cute the two of them, like it's
a legit love for each other that they have. And
I think that that's cool because they're competing obviously, but
they can put that aside.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And this is interesting from a football standpoint because today
was cut down day in the real world and Gibson
made the team, Brownly made the team. Another first year
wide out, Irvin Charles, who we haven't seen Doc Kevin
Mesh show, you haven't met him yet, made the team.
So those guys are all safe as of right now
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on the initial roster of fifty three. That could change
when the churn of rosters, which gets really cruel when
you make the final fifty three and then you know,
the Jets could pick up another wide receiver that got
cut today and one of these guys could get whack.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
So they just our boy Jerome Cap didn't make it.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, I think it's interesting what we didn't see as
well in this episode. You see Jerome Cap not be
able to make a dent in the box score in
his last preseason game, and then you see him walking
down the hallway. Would have liked to see the conversation
and Sala there but shout out that he got an
(14:54):
Eminem shout out on Twitter.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I know, and we didn't even talk about this last week,
that Eminem now back to back years, he's been an
important plot line of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
He was in Detroit hanging out with the Lions, and
now he pops back up with your own caps. So
he's a Hard Knock superstar at the.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Eminem on the Lions sidelines. I remember being a little
bit uncomfortable to watch.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
It was weird.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
This was more organic.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, he's so famous that you could tell the players
were a little nervous to be around him, and Eminem
was a little nervous to be around the players.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
I'd like to use that nervous energy.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And then I thought the other thing I was interesting
in terms of an editorial choice, was a lot of
this conversation about who's going to fill out this wide
receiver depth chart and they even talk about it. You
hear Liev say it that there's one spot available. Well,
there's two spots available. Because Corey Davis stunningly announced his
(15:48):
retirement out of nowhere. I kind of was expecting all
the build up through this episode to end with a
look at the Corey Davis decision and maybe that comes
next week.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
We'll see, but that that is.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
The wide receiver down low for the Jets, and they
gave a lot a lot of run probably, And there
was also you know, our buddy Tanzel Smart, who's been
a ongoing figure in terms of the underdogs for this series.
He got a lot of run in this episode as well,
so he's a little more of that. We even got
(16:20):
Theucci board, that's right, what happens away from the facility,
and you saw Tanzel Smart and the other d linemen
who are all.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Kind of adorable too.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Oh, I got it.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
They're like all brothers making a Carcucci board and some
type of seafood dish that looked.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Like, I think crawfish of some sort.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
It was a family recipe, just a button the wide
receiver conversation. Though I absolutely love Randall Cobb's family. They
have been a constant throughout Hard Knocks. But when he
had the block the penalty in the last game and
seeing them watching it and seeing his wife be like,
oh great, I think we're gonna get a fine in
(16:57):
the mail. Last year it was about night teen thousand
dollars in fines, so.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
It's like the equivalent I could I buy like a
dumb framed poster of from Once upon a Time in Hollywood.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Okay, okay, is this an attack that feels like it?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Because I did it too.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I know, I know you guys, you and John your
husband did it as well. And it costs like one
hundred and eighty five dollars And my wife's like wait, what,
like it's not going to bankrupt us?
Speaker 8 (17:22):
But it's like, wait, that was like this is dumb.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We maybe check with me before we dropped the two.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Honey always says you must differentiate between wants and needs.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
There you go, can't fixt He's a wise man.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
All right, let's take a break here and when we
get back, we'll share our MVPs episode four. Victor voting
system is starting it you know, oh oh, we're getting
close to the end now. And then of course, uh
well not of course, little surprise coming up after.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
You know, I don't like surprises.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Were getting surprised. We'll be right back, all right, Welcome
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back to the Hard Knocks Podcast, the official.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You know how one, because uh, check out the episode we're.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Talking about today.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
The last shot you see Aaron Rodgers holding up his
index finger. Mike Joe Naman so many years ago. And
then check out.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
The words at the bottom of Chiron.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Okay, he's really into the Chiron business.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
The Chiron reads.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Make sure you watch the credits.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Listen to Around the NFL Hard Knocks Recap wherever you
get your podcasts. That I mean, doesn't get more official
than that. Connie, Uh, want to play a game? Sure,
let's do a game show. Oh no, here we go.
All right, everybody, it's time to play your favorite game.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Travis Oor, Jeff, my heart is pounding.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
What is this?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You may or may not be aware, Colleen Wolf that
Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelcey and Jet's defensive
coordinator Jeff Ulbrick have a very similar.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
White boy flow.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So what I'm gonna do It's very simple, okay, and
you if you are victorious here, you win a nineteen
eighty seven Toyota Cameron.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Okay, that's lightly used.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
It was found in the swampson the metal link card.
There's a body in the trunk.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Fifty chance it was in Queen's.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It's fine, all right, here we go, okay, Travis or Jeff.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Very simple Okay, you have to get everything right.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
To get the camera, to get the camera.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
God on this, you can get one rung the camera.
If you get everything right, I'll get the body out
of the trunk.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
Great, great, all right, let's hit it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Eric Roberts the first voice.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You didn't really have anybody at practice.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It was kind of the dog days and just the fellas.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Travis, that's Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
That one.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
We didn't really have anybody at practice. It was kind
of the dog days and just the fellas.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Wow, okay, you're you're hot already. Here we go, pistol.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
All right, here we go strong fast athletes. Whoa wait,
you're good at this.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
I'm really good at ad voices.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That one would have had me as well. All right.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Next, Yeah, he's got a superpower of speed and get
off and it shows up every time he's on the field.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
What all right, let's got another one. Gotta get her once.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
He's created a legacy for himself in this league.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Jeff, that's a great player.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Oh nineteen eighty, there's more.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Last one.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
This one will decide whether the body comes out of
the camera.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah. Well, first things first is great game planning. Hello, right,
everybody should do it. Thank you, We'll see you next time.
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
So one of my favorite things to do as I
drive out of here in my brand new camery.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It only has two hundred and ninety four thousand miles
on it.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
In addition to the corpse steak.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
The steering wheel just falls off. It's in my hand.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
One of my favorite things to do is listen to
a press conference from like Eagles and then name check
who the questions.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Are from, just like from.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Memory of working from all like Jeff McLean, uh huh, Elliott, Jack.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Furnish, John Gonzales exactly. Well, wow, I'm impressed.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
The best person to transcribe in the NFL is Jerry
Jones because he speaks in a halting cadence that is
almost meant for twenty nine year old part time copy
editors to transcribe. That's a nightmare, it was, But look
at us now, all right, so there you go. All right,
let's get to the MVP talk. Now, let's see, let's see.
(22:25):
Let's see. It's a vector voting system, and at the
end of next week's finale episode, we will unveil the
MVP of season.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Keep on meaning to look this up. I think it's seventeen.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Eric help us out with that season in the Dean
of Hard Knocks. It is a hallowed honor. And now
the votes. The voting counts equally every week, as we
hit on last week. But now it's time to really
separate the men from the boys. As were third plays
vote for MVP worth two points.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I believe.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
All right, So this may mess up the vector voting
system in the end, but I can't.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
I have to be true to myself.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You gotta be true.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Third place is the entire defensive line. I love them
so much. They're so cute together. They hang out together,
and I know that's true of like so many position groups,
but they have such great personalities and such different personalities.
And when they were all at Tanzel Smart's house having
like this nice little meal together and making the Carcucci
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board and Tanzel Smart's wearing a shirt that says I
want to eat a Carcucci board and Solomon Thomas is
making meat roses from.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That was impressive. I gotta say Salomon Thomas is a renaissance.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
He truly is, because he's the first one that brought
up going to Broadway and seeing a show. Now he's
out here like putting together these gorgeous charcuterie boards for me.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
The one. It's called Carcucci's right, this show, the one.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
And like John Franklin Myers, who was supposed to be
watching Smart's daughter, she was just like crawling around in
between the couch cushions while he was playing Xbox, and.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
He's like, this is how I watch my kids. What's
the problem here?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
So they're all so adorable and I love their friendship
that they have, but I really would love for Hard
Knocks to pay off them going to Broadway because we
heard at the very end of the show that some
of the guys talking about different shows that they've seen
or liked, and I want to go to a Broadway
show with them.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Honey. I think you're a wise woman, and that feels
so natural. Having watched every episode of the show ever,
that feels like such an episode five right, Hopefully you're
not spoiling it, but that feels like a fun thing
to do.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, I had What do you got there? Grabbers? Do
you have an update?
Speaker 8 (24:51):
IMDb has this a season twenty of Hard Knocks? Oh twenty,
it's twenty ish.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
If it's not twenty it's twenty ish.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I had Tanzel Smart, So it's kind of the same
place as you. Yeah, do we want to maybe throw
it to somebody because you had the whole D line?
Speaker 7 (25:09):
I had the entire D line. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Should we just give Smart since he kind of like
represents him, you know what?
Speaker 7 (25:13):
That's great?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And I think again, today was cut down day in
the NFL, and it's not official as of right now
when we're taping this, but the practice reports from the
Beat reporters that Tanzel Smart was not seen on the
field today, which usually usually is a sign the player
did not make the team, which is a shame.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
They a song get hurt his shoulder, and they just
rubbed some Tiger bomb on it, which I could not
believe that that was the fix for it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
He played through it, and the reason he played through
is because he knew. He knew he was like almost
no other player on the defense on the bubble, and
he played through what was obviously had to be probably
an extremely painful injury and was just trying to get
by on an adrenaline and a little bit of bomb.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Like they had to convince him to go to the
X ray room. Like once they kind of like saw
how much he was in pain.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, And I thought there was a moment on the
sideline at the end of that preseason game where Smart
kind of looks up and he's a little undersized compared
to some of those other big dudes we've talked about here.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
And he says, you think I belong with you guys?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Right, Like it was like a really kind of a
sweet moment, and he was like almost like a little brother,
even though he might be older.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think he's twenty seven or so.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He wants that he wants that approval of them, And
I think it was maybe JLM was like John Franklin
Myers was like, yeah, man, you belong, you belong. Nice
moment and hopefully Smart lands on his feet if it's
not with the Jets.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Second place, Connie wait what oh okay, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, I'm with you. Box Step Box.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
Step second place is Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
There were so many moments from him.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
We talked about the frustration during the practice and then
he kind of like focused everyone wrangled them up, made
some sense of what wasn't working, and then we saw
it actually work. But I loved his exchange with jahad
Ward when they actually played the Giants in this game.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
It was so perfect. I think we have some of that.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, And just to set it up, it was Rogers
drops back to pass. It's during his final drive of
the game, and Ward hits him a little bit late
huh on a pass and Aaron Rodgers did not like
that at all.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Welcome on, what do that? Fine said, I know you are?
You know, I never heard you.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
I never I don't know who you are. I've never
heard of you.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
And then they come back at the end and Rogers
brings it back.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Again after he threw the touchdown pass.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Don't poke the bear?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
How many times? How many F bombs are dropped there?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Because I didn't really even notice it until they were
bleeped out, but not even that. It was also some
of his exchanges with Nathaniel Hackett, and it was very
gen Z of him to be wearing the wired headphones.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
It's super trendy.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Now.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
I don't think he does it because it's trendy. I
think he does because it is. He said he doesn't
want radiating.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I mean, is there anything more on brand than Aaron
Rodgers saying he doesn't trust air pods because of EMF
emissions being harmful to his brain. And maybe he'll be
proven to be right and half the population will be
dead in thirty years.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But also it's just the type of nonsense that I was.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Able to divorce myself with Aaron Rodgers once became a
quarterback of my favorite team. It's like, oh my god,
this guy. And he also I think he likes, oh
the young kids are wearing this. Yeah, TikTok okay. I
think that's part of it, and that's okay. Like I
think Aaron Rodgers like what I'm kind of taking out
of the Aaron Rodgers experience and is that he cares
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very much like what you think of him. And I
don't think that that makes you a bad person, because
I think everyone's like that to various varying degrees. But
there's definitely an image that he's projecting. It's not one
of those people is like, I don't care what you
think about me, this is who I am. I think
it's more carefully cultivated that he would admit. But what
this show has been good for for him, for his
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brand is you see the authentic side of him where
he's not protecting who he is, and you see the
competitor he is, and you see how that great interaction
with the fans, those kids at Jets practice. That Okay,
you could say that he knows the MIC's on him
and the cameras on, but that felt like a genuine
moment too, that so much has been made of Rogers
in the last few years, and he's taken a pr beating,
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and I have been vocal in my criticism of him,
like things he said during COVID that I thought was
misinformation from a very high public figure in American sports.
But the person he is, I think a good person.
And and does he put his foot in his mouth sometimes?
Does he sometimes try to be the cool guy? Sure,
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but I think he is a good person in addition
to being obviously a tremendou players.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
It's certainly a carefully curated brand that he's putting out there.
But I feel like Hard Knocks has been the best
thing for his brand because you get to see that authentic,
organic side of him that maybe he doesn't always have
out for everyone, but it's like when he's on the field,
like that's exactly who we thought he was.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
And I'll say a good way, yeah, And I'll say,
because he's this is a little bit out of order,
but it'll all work, all white boy flow. I have
Annon Rodgers my first place vote just because I thought that,
and I think hard Knock has been mindful of not
going too far down the Rogers rabbit hole every week.
But this was with his first preseason game and seeing
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the way he prepares and seeing the fire on the field,
it's just fun to see this guy, this once in
a generation athlete reeves start his career and having boots
on the ground here. It's very cool. So I give
Rogers a first place vote. My second place vote, I
believe is your first place vote.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Go ahead, we flipped on that. Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
He is just so fun loving. I need more Hacket
like everything. He's so funny and it's like, I want
to play for this guy. I wish I worked with
this guy, Like he.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Just want to fly around like a butterfly exactly.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
I love him. The floby was hilarious. So he's having
the conversation with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
After Aaron Rodgers, I guess had gotten like, you know,
his his neck beard fixed up or whatever. I got
a haircut and stuff, and Rogers says, like certain Pete,
there's certain people that can touch my hair.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Actually we have it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I have certain people that can touch my hair.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I would like to say that I'm one of them.
I also have a Floby glow. What dial it up
Floby right now? Type it in. You need to see
the Floby.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
They bring up YouTube, the greatest invention on the projection.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Screen through the exciting world of Floby precision haircuts.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
It's like from nineteen nineties.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's like the early nineties. I remember it. It's an
insane in commercial products.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm telling you how it didn't make it. I don't know.
I asked my mom for it all the time. She
never got it for me. She got me some buzzers.
But as the old Floby billy, there are really anything
better than a Floby.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Okay, Now he's someone Nathan Hackett, for better or worse.
I don't think he cares what people think. I think
there are gonna be probably people in the locker room
that are getting get sideway glances from time to time,
like this guy's at dork. But I think he's he's
very naturally himself. And yes, I think he's very so
much fun.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Even in that same meeting, he talked about how he
wants to be the touchdown firework guy who like, as
soon as anyone gets to the red zone, even though
he calls it the gold zone, Like this guy is
just waiting, waiting to like set off there.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I think the line is there's a up there in
the box waiting to hit the button.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
That's it. It's so good.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Yeah, it's just his.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
And then he's using the time in the film room
to show the players how they're not celebrating together or
a touchdown, Like it's not like who did what wrong here?
Or like how can we improve there, It's like, let's
make sure that these celebrations are in unison.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
He's such a positive guy.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
He's got obviously a sense of humor that he wears
on a sleeve, if that makes any sense, And he
you it makes sense. I've said this before and I'll
say it again. Why Rogers likes him so much. There's
no ego here. In fact, he knows the score. There's
no way. The fact that all you heard leading up
to the during the courtship of Rogers and the Jets
(33:30):
was how much Rogers loved Hack. It you've seen it
over these past four weeks that he doesn't challenge Rogers
in ways that would rub Rogers the wrong way. He's
kind of like his wingman in a way. And I
also watch this and I understand why maybe it didn't
work out for him in Denver, because I don't know
if this is big chair energy, but to be the
wingman of one of the greatest quarterbacks who ever lived
(33:51):
and be on the same page and have the respect
of the players because they understand that you're in it
and you're a fun guy, Like it's been a great.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Show for it.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
But we also saw him fired up, and we saw
like an angrier side of him when things weren't going
right in that practice. Hackett was pissed too, and he
was like, it's not all sunshine and butterflies all the
time with him, Isn't it weird though?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
When there are people in your life that are like
good time, happy people and then you see him mad
and it's just like a little bit more.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Like, Oh, I don't like it. Yeah, it's not for me.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Sean Kelly, Sean.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Kelly, Yeah, Sean was being sassy today.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
He's like the most positive guy in the world. Uh, huh,
the happiest guy I've ever known, Philadelphia's own. That's right,
But can you imagine Sean Kelly getting angry? No, I
wanted to be like disturbing, like there are people like that.
You can't imagine the mad just like we all have
our moments.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
I still can't really picture it, to be honest.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
But we have one more Hackey clip that I think
was my favorite clip. I clipped it and I want
to use it. I don't wants to brush over it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Cause it's it's a funny. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
I love the association of it.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Okay, go ahead and let her.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
We like to call this the Golden Day. Hey, this
is the Golden Day. Now, how many people here have
seen a movie all gold member?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
That makes me so proud? Right now? That is so great.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
We all know we talk about this as the red zone, right,
that's what most of the world calls it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It's not the red zone because that is what is red? Mean?
What the we call it the red zone for?
Speaker 8 (35:16):
Let's go get that.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Gold I don't know.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
I love Austin Powers movies, so that was.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I think you know it's a great point, though you
know what else he is popped up repeatedly in his
MVP conversation. Yeah, I am excited for next week's finale
because Hackett is a very real player. I don't want
to end on a sobering note, but one of the
best moments of episode three last week was Randall Cobb
clocking and then letting everyone on the sideline know that
(35:45):
Thomas more said runs like a bastard off the field
to stay loose because he's a dad.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
He was cut.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
He was waving today and he tweeted something like, don't
panic everybody. Maybe he's gonna come back and there's something
being worked out. I hope so, because I was looking
forward to watching mor said all year.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
We got it, we need it, we need we need
him back.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Also, we need to pay off Al the Jeweler Woody
Johnson's Shane.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
We had a listener, Joe.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Helstad shout out Joe Joey, who sent me the instagram
of Al the Jewelers so we could actually see what
the was.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
And it was Woody and the Jets.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Okay, we thought it.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
Was let's go Jets.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I can't teach stupid, No, you can't. Thanks Joe two
other things. The Jets defensive line coach is named Aaron
White Cotton. That's just wild to me. And I think
that's it. I think that's everything. Everyone was into the
(36:53):
the song Ski by Sexy Red.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
Can you tell me how it goes?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I don't know, I don't know what's going on. Oh.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I also liked the song the New York New York version,
the cover forget It.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Give me Frank, I mean give me Frank.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Frank is a staple. It's a classic. We love it.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
You give me all blue eyes. Okay, that was.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
A good one.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
And then I also just thought it was kind of
touching at the end of that game in the locker
room that Sala was like, all right, this is it.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Like make sure you take a look around, hug.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Someone, go up to someone, like have those moments now,
because that's it.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
That is it. Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
We'll be back next week the season finale of Hard
Knocks Who with special guests, other special stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
It's a finale. It's got to be big.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
Are there going to be bread products.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Until next week? Heed the call?
Speaker 3 (37:47):
You know it, salt pepper, ketchup, a.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Little bit of Frank, give me an everything, bagel extra
toasted
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Frank Sinatra, Frank's Red Hot, and Frank Everything A rank
all day,
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Gregg Rosenthal
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