April 9, 2024 • 34 mins
On Location Memphis proudly presents the film "5th Step" written by Attorney Angela Green and featuring the former lead singer of the Legendary Bar-Kays Larry Dodson Sr., they talk about it on The Bev Johnson Show on WDIA Radio.
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go. We're rocking and rolling onthis Tuesday, April ninth, twenty twenty
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four. Enjoyed this fabulous day today. Remember earlier this morning I talked
about we're gonna talk about fifth step, and I asked you what is fifth
step? Well, we're gonna findout this afternoon what fifth step is.
And ladies and gentlemen, let meintroduce to you our guest. We want
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to introduce Attorney Angela D. Greenis here and the legend, Yeah,
he is a legend. My friend, my brother friend is in the house.
The original lead singer, former leadsinger of The Bark Case. What
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Larry Dotson Senior. Good afternoon toyou, lady and gentlemen. How y'all
doing he well? Y'all looking fabulous? You good? Looks like you're getting
younger. Brother see checking the mail, checking the mail. I like it.
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Thank you. I had said earlier, what is fifth step? And
I'm going to start with Attorney Greento let our audience know what the heck
is fifth step? The beb Ijust want to thank you for having us
on this afternoon. And the fifthstep is actually we're talking about the twelve
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step program of alcoholics Anonymous, andthis film is kind of focused in on
the fifth step and the fifth step, just to kind of paraphrase, it's
basically that step where you admit toyourself, acknowledge your wrongs, admit to
yourself, admit to God, andadmit to someone else. And so that's
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what that's basically what that fifth stepis all about, and that's what this
movie is about. Fifth Step confession, heals your soul. So let our
my listeners. Fifth Death. It'sa movie. It's a movie. It's
a movie. And it was writtenby you. Yes, it was written
by me. Why did you decideAttorney Green to do this? So I
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have to give credit to my director. I actually we started this process in
twenty twenty two, and I hadactually tapped him to write the script.
And he is a recovering alcoholic andhe was going to write a script on
twelve Step and I said, great, write it, and so he did
write a script in twenty twenty two. However, when he finished it,
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it was too large in scope forour budget. We could not do it,
and so he was going to haveto go back and write a new
script. However, by that timewe were around January twenty twenty three.
We knew we were going to gointo production in twenty twenty three. And
he's a traveling actor. Dereus Wallaceis his name. He's been in several
movies, Tyler Perry movies and severalmovies around the city and so, and
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he also does Frederick Douglass across thecountry one man performance. And so he
was about to start his traveling seasonwhich is usually around the first of the
year. And so initially I wassupposed to just help him write it.
And so I think we had aboutand we had Christy Taylor, who's with
the script Polisher consulting, so shewas kind of working with us, and
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so I think we did about twosessions, but I was still working with
Christy outside of us because I knewwe had this deadline that we had to
finish. And so I'd say aboutthe second session, I started talking to
Andrea and it seemed like you gotthe muse, why don't you just write?
Yeah, and I said, Okay, I'm gonna try my hand at
this and so and that's what wedid. So it took about three months
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for me to go ahead and writeit, and then he came back on
board and directed it. So that'skind of how I ended up in this
position. Yeah, so Attorney Greenin deciding to make it into a movie,
why not first stage play? Youknow, I never really thought about
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that. But on Location Memphis,which is the organization that I'm executive director
for, we focus on music andfilm in particular, and we had been
working with the film commission Lenz Siddlerwith the below The line jobs for that
workforce development. So we had beendoing some workshops with them, and it
just so happened I had submitted agrant for a program that basically was two
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party was training and then it wasalso producing a film project, and we
had not gotten that grant. However, they circled backed and was willing to
give us some seed money so thatwe can beta test the idea, and
so that's kind of how we startedwith that, and that's how we got
the seed money to start producing thisfilm project. So we did a couple
of workshops with Lend Sidler on constructionand painting, electric electric sewing for television
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film. And then the second partwas to produce a film project which would
give individuals who are getting their firstor second credit an opportunity to kind of
put their skills to use on areal set while you know, making a
little money. So that's the reasonwhy we went strictly in the film space
as opposed to theater. So Iwant to be clear, So the OLM
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is this the new company that's goingto build the studio in White Haven.
No, it's something different, somethingokay. I wanted to be sure,
Yeah, something different on location mythsactually has been around since nineteen ninety seven,
but it was yes, but butfor seventeen years it was just the
film Festival and that's all it did. It hosted one of the international film
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and music festivals. I didn't startvolunteering with them until twenty ten, and
then I ended up taking over aroundtwenty fourteen. And so once I did
that, by that time of severalfestivals. I think when it started it
may have been one of two festivals, but by the time I came along,
there were several across the city.And I started thinking, Okay,
what does this community really need,you know, does it need another festival,
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another presenter, or is there somethingelse? And so, with me
being an attorney and I was workingin the space of entertainment, okay,
I started reimagining what I felt thatthe organization and what I felt the community
need. And so I did takea class with the Sissi Foundation. I
always give them credit before you ask, and they really got me to start
thinking. And one of the mainquestions they asked is if you were stopped
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to stop what you're doing today withanybody care, And I started I thought
about that and I was like,hmm, yeah, okay. And so
then when I really thought about it, and at that time too, I
learned about the poverty rate in Memphis. I wasn't so sure about it.
It wasn't aware of it. Putit like that. But when I started
thinking about it and just thinking aboutall the artists that used to come across
my path, many of them,you know, they couldn't afford me as
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an attorney. They couldn't afford tofile their information, they couldn't afford to
market and promote, but yet theystill found a way to create. And
so I felt like, Okay,that's where we're missing. We can create
the content, we just need tolearn how to monetize it, how to
be able to create careers and buildbusinesses here, not feeling like we have
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to leave in order to jumpstart ourcareers. So we kind of pushed into
that space. So the new visionof the organization is we teach entertainment business,
but it's through real life application.Oh so we're doing business. So
you're learning to do business in aprotected environment, and that's how you're going
to learn. Oh. I lovethat. I love that. So one
of the things that you all didis getting this attorney green film together.
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Where are the actors coming from?They're coming from right here, Memphis,
Tennessee, Shelby County. Yeah,yeah, yeah, and that's why it's
Memphis movie production. The majority,I mean the majority of from the actors,
of course, the writers, thebelow the line staff, the majority
of them are from right here.And we focus on you know, we
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pull individuals who are part of ourtour club. We pull them in,
but then we allowed other people toget job. So like our casting director,
that's the first time she ever workedin that area. But she had
a desire to do it. Shewas an actress, she had watched other
people do it, and so shedecided that that was something she wanted to
do. We wanted to give herthe opportunity to do it, and so
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that's what we do. So there, Yeah, they're coming from right here
in Shelby County. How did youget that man next to you? Larry
Doe? What I am a cheapday? Me go on record, I
am a cheap date A cup ofcoffee in the script? You got me?
Wow? Wow? Wow? No, No, how did I mean?
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You know what? You know,we've been knowing each other all our
lives, but this is an areathat I probably we've probably seldomly talked about.
That's been one of the things thatI actually missed throughout my career.
I really wanted to be an actor. Ice Tea has my role. He
had himself, you know, hedidn't have to go out of his space
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to do that. That's what Ioften dreamed of, But I kind I
was at the dog and I missedthat both years ago. So now my
agent gives me age appropriate things sothey don't come up as much. Yeah,
but they're starting to come up.I'm actually gonna feel start filming another
movie in two weeks. Angeloma hadto ask me once. She's been my
attorney, but her vision was quiteclear, and the script was great,
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and the role that I play Ihad. Yeah, don't tell we need
to see. Let the cet outthe bag. This is a very suspenseful
movie, even though it's a shortfilm. It got me as soon as
I read the script. But Ithis is what I like to do.
I like to do, And nowthat you know, I don't work as
much now because I'm back on theroad to Barcades featureing Larry Dotson. Now
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what that absolutely love that Caroen isfeeling up for the year and everything's well,
But U, that's what I alwayswanted to do, you know what,
Larry, when you when when yousaid that, what like we've been
knowing each other, I don't knowa long time. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, but that was my aspirationto be on Broadway. Yeah. I
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Attorney Green in high school, grewup. I got a full ride,
Larry to the American Academy of DramaticArts. During that time, they didn't
have living quarters. You had tofind your own place. My daddy told
me, you think I'm going tosend you to New York, I gotta
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find you somewhere to live. You'reseventeen. He said, you better find
a school with a dormitory, whichcrushed my dream because I wanted to be
on Broadway because I had taken dramaticlessons all that and I got a full
ride scholarship Attorney. But my father, I was mad with him for a
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whole year. But you protective,Yeah, yeah, because he was because
he said we didn't have family there. He said, I'm not sending you
there. And think about that,Larry. That was in the So you
know a lot of stuff's going on. Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, that's
amazing. But that's good. Ican understand that you're you're a talented person.
You could have been a singer,you could have been a lot of
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things. But you've been a blessingto meth Tennessee. You know, w
well, thank you because we neverknow where the Lord's going to take Now,
it wasn't meant for me to bethere. You're right where he wants
you to be. Yeah, yeah, Larry, I'm like you, I've
been doing this, do you know, Larry. Not to take away from
this fifth I just want to tellLarry, I know you've been in the
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business a long time. I've beendoing radio, Larry for forty eight years
out of here, forty eight andI know you're over fifty. Yeah,
doing your little being in being inthe business. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, that's yeah, that's amazing. But you know what, none of
your listeners have been listening to youmost of those years. Yeah, that's
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truthful. This is a this isa wonderful station. It is it is
thanks to the thanks to people likeyou who are in front of the microphone
every day. We're trying to holdit on, Larry, Yep, we're
trying to hold it. This isamazing this is a real good movie.
I want to go back, yousaid, and you you said, Larry,
it was a it's a short film. It is. Yeah, it's
not long. No no, no, it's not the hour, it's not
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the ninety minute film, right,Okay. It's more of a challenge,
I know, for Angela as awriter and for us as actively. We
don't have a lot of time tokind of knock it out the park,
so to speak. So we haveto be pretty good, pretty convincing.
And you got to kind of getthat script and stay engulfed in it,
you know. Okay, you knowthat was that was a challenge for you.
She did a good job too,It was so did you know anything,
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Attorney Green about alcoholics, anumbers anonymousor or the twelve step program?
Did you know anything about that towrite this? Of course I was familiar
with the program, but as faras detailed knowledge, no, I did
not know. So Dereus really wasthe one who kind of I love this
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because I know Larry knows that I'malso a certified substance abuse counselor a lot
of people don't know. Yeah,and when you when I said, Phil,
I love this in that though it'sa great, great plot for it
because it's gonna be a district ministrytoo. Good. Yeah, good,
absolutely good to those that are goingthrough stuff like that. You're right,
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you're right. We are talking thisafternoon. If you've just tuned in,
Attorney Angela Green, who is thewriter of Fifth Step and Larry Dotson Senior
is here. When we come back, we're gonna tell our listeners where they
can go to see this. Butif you have a question for my guests,
we invite you to call now eightthree three five three five nine three
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the Bev Johnson Show. Here's Johnsonand we're talking with Attorney Angela D.
Green and she is the writer ofThe Fifth Step, a new movie that's
going to happen this I think it'sthis weekend. Well we'll get more information.
And the legend Darry Larry Dodson Senioris here who is also in the
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movie. Lady and gentlemen, I'mgoing to our phone lines to talk to
our guests. W D. Ia high caller. How you doing?
They of this? George? Hey, George, how are you? I
want to talk to Larry D realquick. Larry D is listening to you.
Hey, Jeorge, how are you? Larry D? This is Pip
Face, you know, trumpet playerfor ov Wright, Johnny Taylor and Shirley
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Brown. Larry D, you rememberwhen I sold up your crouch when that
snake had you dancing and the snakegot excited. Was at the Family Fair
Club? No what we were atthe club. One time we was on
the road with lt D. Thissnake got excited. I said, Larry
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off the deck, please, Larrydeck and Larry kept on dancing. The
girls just screaming. Larry kept onthat short He was just taking a little
boo boo. He was taking alittle boo boo, and the snake opened
the mouth I said, all thisain't no show. Larry should have faid
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that dog one thing. And Larrybuss his plants and they said, pie
face got the swarm machine. Fiveface got the swarm machine. So Felton
was on that tur you know,with this confunction. Phail said, just
throw the pants back their tie facewill sow it up with quick and George,
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Larry said, that's too much information. All the information now, I'm
putting all the business out there.I want you to do this, and
I'm gonna get the money for usto do it. I'm gonna get the
money for us to do it.You know that Ben jumped out of that
Arab play and he had nothing buta cushion and couldn't swim. If that
ain't the greatest movie gonna be producedby Larry Deep, you know what you're
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joking, but you know what actuallytheir there. The script is being read
right now by some folks in Atlanta. I can't talk about it much,
but we're just gonna be believing Godthat maybe they may see the worth in
this particular movie, but that itis so good and delightful. Talk to
you by face. Jerk it offthis phone, right off radio Larry Congratulations
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you are some of a bad mother. Shit my mouth. Yeah by George
W. D I a high caller. Oh they hung out. Okay,
now the fifth step. It ishappening when Attorney Green. It is happening
this Sunday at five o'clock PM atthe Malco Powerhouse, Downtown, five four
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the Front Street. To get yourtickets, go to on location Memphis dot
org. On location Memphis dot org. That's it's act. The only that
that's the only place they can getthe tickets. That's the only place you
can get the tickets. Now.You will be able to also get them
on the day of it. Ifseats are still there, it's still available
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those tickets. Get them because it'slimited seating. Yes, it is the
seating, and they're going fast.They are going because because folks want to
see Larry dots. That's right,that's right. I will say this though,
every actor that was in the filmdid an excellent job. Some better
than others, but everybody did areally good job. But some some people
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had a more difficult role to play. But it was really really interesting,
you know, to see how enthusedeverybody was, you know, and it
was really a really really good experiencefor me. I have to ask.
We have a duck master, KeenanWalker. Oh yeah, right next to
Larry d Okay, we had anaddition, additional star power. Alright,
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so the film was filmed right herein Memphis and Shelby County. In Shelby
County, yes, ma'am. Wow. And also I understand, are you
all want to have a red carpet. Yes, we will have a red
carpet event that's starting at five pointfifteen. We have several guests so you
can come out and meet the starslike Larry and Keenan and Jermaine and Cynthia
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and everyone else. But also oursponsors, also our production staff, so
we really want to celebrate everyone whocame together to bring this project to Fruition.
Well that sounds good, and thisSunday, and it's this Sunday.
And in mentioning sponsors, I guessI better go ahead and tell her that
first off, Frontline Solutions funded bythe Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. They
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were the backbone of the project.They were the ones who gave us the
funds over two years to do theworkshops with the film Commission as well as
produced as film. The Tennessee EntertainmentCommission, Power Media Solutions, UH,
Ambassadors of Memphis, of course,the Film and Television Commission, Linn Sidler,
Sharing Fox O'Quinn. All of thoseindividuals, they you know, they
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undergirded us, gave us the resources. Everyone was paid, you know,
no deferred payments. Everybody was paid. Everybody. Everybody was paid. And
we're we're moving forward with this planand hope to have some distribution, marketing,
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promotion, distribution information to report tothe independent filmmakers, because that's always
the question, how do you monetizeyour film project after you spent the money?
What do you need to do?What are the steps that you need
to take. So we're chronicling everythingthat we're doing through this screening as well
as afterwards, so that at theend of the year we can report good
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or bad, what we spent,how much did we make, so that
people can use this as they moveforward with their film production companies. And
you know what, I think thiswill be a good time to challenge other
filmmakers, potential filmmakers in Memphis,Tennessee, to look right around the corner
and look through your roller decks.If you have aspirations for doing the film.
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Keep it here, use the talentthat's here, because there's a lot
of people here that are worthy ofthat big screen, I'm telling you.
And we should do that and takethis opportunity while we're in front of this
MinC. Because there's some people Iknow that have money that want to do
film. There have been filmmakers nomatter you've seen the movies. They spend
lots and lots of money. SoI would expect I would challenge them to
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not give up, you know.And it's just like a music But is
you one record away you want famaway from being that next person? I
like it absolutely. Batter our phoneline, WU d I a high call.
Hello, how a y'all doing doingwell in yourself? Okay? I
just want to ask a question justto get a little bit of advice.
Congratulations on the movie. But ifyou wrote a song, mister Dodson and
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Tronie Green, do you have toget it copyright to be yours? So
legally, when you write that song, it's yours by automatic the moment that
you put it down on paper andmake it plain and tangible. However,
in order to protect that song tobe able to go into court, and
enforce your rights to that song.You have to get it registered. You
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have to go ahead and file itwith the US Copyright Office. That's the
only thing that's going to give youthat protection so that you can enforce the
rights that you automatically are given.Okay, So do I go online like
and fill out a form or something. Yes, you can. They do
have an electronic copyright office so thatyou can submit it online. Oh okay,
thank you? All right. Imight be getting in contact with mister
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Larry Dobson did for my song.Okay, thank y'all. All right,
welcome, Thank you. W DI a high caller. Hey, bab
are you? I'm doing well?Jewel and you? Yeah? I'm good.
Hey Tony, how you doing?The first thing I need to speak
to is Larry Dawson. What's up? Larry? I am good? How
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are you? Donald? Yeah?You remember me? What's your name?
Ambro's mom? Oh? Good morning? How are you? Ambrose mom?
You know you really you really supportyou, really supports your son, don't
you. Yes? I do.Yes, he's very good at it too.
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What can I do for you this? Yeah? I was calling to
graduate you on your movie and Ididn't wanting to tell you that I have
a brother named George. Okay,he loved that song, y'all put out
and just as fell with that songtoo. You keep that good work.
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Thank you so much. Come comesee the film. Okay, come see
the field, see the film.Okay, all right, thank you,
Jele Bye bye, w d Iah callers Johnson, what's up Richard?
Hey, little daddy, how areyou look? Look? I got a
question to be about this. Lambdoctor, what's up? Lam doc?
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Good bron Yeah, look good.I think I talked to you before I
put you in that Black House cabinyou hear me? Okay, I got
the Black House cabinet like uh.I made that up with when uh when
President Obama? What's the black versusblack president? Then the bill? Oh
that's a song. Now that's no, that's his cabinet. So what's your
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question, little daddy? I askedabout question. Bit Jo be trying to
rush, no dolls, I'm notdoing, little daddy. We run out
of town. But she good,my course, nels, I won't to
know about the copy right for goodsip of batball. Laugh, doctor,
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I'll be saying, I'll be runningwith all the way up. And then
stealing. Okay, So Attorney Greenis right here. She's gonna tell you
how to cover yourself, right right, so they steal myself. Okay,
So Attorney Green's gonna tell you peoplestill steal his stuff. What does he
need to do? So? Ihope you have filed that copyright with the
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U. S. Copyright Office,because if you've done that, then you
can go ahead and get somebody tosend that seas and desist letter. There
you go. You can go aheadand get that get them to pull that
music down if they've taken it andput it out there. All right,
thank you, little daddy, thankyou, he says, folks be using
his words. Was the name ofthat black rock? He has a black
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house cabinet. Oh yeah, sohe's put people in his black house cab
so thoughtful. All right? Iknow. W D I a HI caller,
Hi caller, you're on the air, Hey Freddy? Yes you yes?
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Hi every day? Hey Freddie?How are you? I'm doing good
at Attorney Green. I just wantedto call them and say congratulations and looking
forward to seeing you end up.Thank you, come see Sunday. Okay,
we'll do all right. I'm blessed. Attorney Green tell people how they
can come and see the Fifth Step. They can secure their tickets for the
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Fifth Step by going to on Locationmphisdot org. As soon as you go
to that website, it will takeyou right where you need to go to
purchase those tickets. And I wantto be clear on this because some people
may hear this and not then theyshow down there on Sunday, will they
be able to pay to get inor no, they will be able to
pay to get in if there arestill seats available. Okay, yeah,
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And it starts what time? Thered carpet events starts at five fifteen and
it's gonna run to about six fifteen, six thirty, and then the film
would start and then there'll be ashort Q and A afterwards. We should
be all wrapped up by eight.By eight o'clock, you're out of there.
And so people will be able tomeet the actors. They'll be able
to meet the actors, the productionstaff, the sponsors, everyone, all
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the dignitaries for the film and musiccommunity here in Shelby County. We've invited
everyone to come on out and celebratethis. It's gonna be great. Yes,
larry D, what do you haveto say for last words to our
listeners about the Fifth Step. Pleaseplease just do yourself a favor and come
out and get get to be apart of a great evening dressed to impress.
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All right, Yeah, we're gonnabe shoved. Are you always be
sho? Chris is a great movie. I admonish all of you Memphis come
out and support us this memphisone.All right, yeah, and I will
this last question to agree with thecompany. O l M. You're all
are going to be doing other projectslike that. Yes we do, I
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mean oil them. We're five oneC three nonprofit organization and it is our
desire to continue to do this workand to help our filmmakers and our music
creators be able to jump start theircareers their creative businesses right here from home,
not having to leave. Sounds good. The Fifth Step on this Sunday
at the Powerhouse. That's downtown.Downtown. That's a nice place. I've
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never been there yet. Oh well, you know we wrote we ain't new
to this. We grouted it.I love it. I love it,
I love it The Fifth Step.Thank you all so much for being here.
Thanks having Angela Green the writer andR Dotson, s lead singer of
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the Barcades to me, You're stillalways gonna be the lead singing. There
you go. Hey, you know, Larry, when I leave, When
I leave, every day I playthis Songtitude by Mark Baker. Oh,
that's his version of that's his version. Favorite song, right, that's my
favorite song, the Marka's Attorney Green, my favorite of all time. Yeah,
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yeah, it does. What youwant to be may not be what
the people see. I hear you, brother, Thank you for having us.
Thank you Larry Dotson and Attorney AngelaGreen, And thank you callers,
Thank you listeners for joining us thisday on the Bev Johnson Show. We
do, we really do appreciate you. So until tomorrow, please be safe,
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keep a cool head, y'all,don't let anyone still your joy until
tomorrow. I'm Bev Johnson, andy'all keep the faith. The views and
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with this talking and home away?Help you go? You go? Son't
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here wrong talk? You d listento? What to say? You know
it's time for the Belt of Fishshome of the Belt of Show. Let's
go. We're rocking and rolling onthis Tuesday, April ninth, twenty twenty
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four. Enjoyed this fabulous day today. Remember earlier this morning I talked
about we're gonna talk about fifth step, and I asked you what is fifth
step? Well, we're gonna findout this afternoon what fifth step is.
And ladies and gentlemen, let meintroduce to you our guest. We want
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to introduce Attorney Angela D. Greenis here and the legend, Yeah,
he is a legend. My friend, my brother friend is in the house.
The original lead singer, former leadsinger of The Bark Case. What
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Larry Dotson Senior. Good afternoon toyou, lady and gentlemen. How y'all
doing he well? Y'all looking fabulous? You good? Looks like you're getting
younger. Brother see checking the mail, checking the mail. I like it.
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Thank you. I had said earlier, what is fifth step? And
I'm going to start with Attorney Greento let our audience know what the heck
is fifth step? The beb Ijust want to thank you for having us
on this afternoon. And the fifthstep is actually we're talking about the twelve
(05:19):
step program of alcoholics Anonymous, andthis film is kind of focused in on
the fifth step and the fifth step, just to kind of paraphrase, it's
basically that step where you admit toyourself, acknowledge your wrongs, admit to
yourself, admit to God, andadmit to someone else. And so that's
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what that's basically what that fifth stepis all about, and that's what this
movie is about. Fifth Step confession, heals your soul. So let our
my listeners. Fifth Death. It'sa movie. It's a movie. It's
a movie. And it was writtenby you. Yes, it was written
by me. Why did you decideAttorney Green to do this? So I
(06:00):
have to give credit to my director. I actually we started this process in
twenty twenty two, and I hadactually tapped him to write the script.
And he is a recovering alcoholic andhe was going to write a script on
twelve Step and I said, great, write it, and so he did
write a script in twenty twenty two. However, when he finished it,
(06:21):
it was too large in scope forour budget. We could not do it,
and so he was going to haveto go back and write a new
script. However, by that timewe were around January twenty twenty three.
We knew we were going to gointo production in twenty twenty three. And
he's a traveling actor. Dereus Wallaceis his name. He's been in several
movies, Tyler Perry movies and severalmovies around the city and so, and
(06:46):
he also does Frederick Douglass across thecountry one man performance. And so he
was about to start his traveling seasonwhich is usually around the first of the
year. And so initially I wassupposed to just help him write it.
And so I think we had aboutand we had Christy Taylor, who's with
the script Polisher consulting, so shewas kind of working with us, and
(07:09):
so I think we did about twosessions, but I was still working with
Christy outside of us because I knewwe had this deadline that we had to
finish. And so I'd say aboutthe second session, I started talking to
Andrea and it seemed like you gotthe muse, why don't you just write?
Yeah, and I said, Okay, I'm gonna try my hand at
this and so and that's what wedid. So it took about three months
(07:30):
for me to go ahead and writeit, and then he came back on
board and directed it. So that'skind of how I ended up in this
position. Yeah, so Attorney Greenin deciding to make it into a movie,
why not first stage play? Youknow, I never really thought about
(07:54):
that. But on Location Memphis,which is the organization that I'm executive director
for, we focus on music andfilm in particular, and we had been
working with the film commission Lenz Siddlerwith the below The line jobs for that
workforce development. So we had beendoing some workshops with them, and it
just so happened I had submitted agrant for a program that basically was two
(08:16):
party was training and then it wasalso producing a film project, and we
had not gotten that grant. However, they circled backed and was willing to
give us some seed money so thatwe can beta test the idea, and
so that's kind of how we startedwith that, and that's how we got
the seed money to start producing thisfilm project. So we did a couple
of workshops with Lend Sidler on constructionand painting, electric electric sewing for television
(08:43):
film. And then the second partwas to produce a film project which would
give individuals who are getting their firstor second credit an opportunity to kind of
put their skills to use on areal set while you know, making a
little money. So that's the reasonwhy we went strictly in the film space
as opposed to theater. So Iwant to be clear, So the OLM
(09:03):
is this the new company that's goingto build the studio in White Haven.
No, it's something different, somethingokay. I wanted to be sure,
Yeah, something different on location mythsactually has been around since nineteen ninety seven,
but it was yes, but butfor seventeen years it was just the
film Festival and that's all it did. It hosted one of the international film
(09:24):
and music festivals. I didn't startvolunteering with them until twenty ten, and
then I ended up taking over aroundtwenty fourteen. And so once I did
that, by that time of severalfestivals. I think when it started it
may have been one of two festivals, but by the time I came along,
there were several across the city.And I started thinking, Okay,
what does this community really need,you know, does it need another festival,
(09:48):
another presenter, or is there somethingelse? And so, with me
being an attorney and I was workingin the space of entertainment, okay,
I started reimagining what I felt thatthe organization and what I felt the community
need. And so I did takea class with the Sissi Foundation. I
always give them credit before you ask, and they really got me to start
thinking. And one of the mainquestions they asked is if you were stopped
(10:11):
to stop what you're doing today withanybody care, And I started I thought
about that and I was like,hmm, yeah, okay. And so
then when I really thought about it, and at that time too, I
learned about the poverty rate in Memphis. I wasn't so sure about it.
It wasn't aware of it. Putit like that. But when I started
thinking about it and just thinking aboutall the artists that used to come across
my path, many of them,you know, they couldn't afford me as
(10:35):
an attorney. They couldn't afford tofile their information, they couldn't afford to
market and promote, but yet theystill found a way to create. And
so I felt like, Okay,that's where we're missing. We can create
the content, we just need tolearn how to monetize it, how to
be able to create careers and buildbusinesses here, not feeling like we have
(10:58):
to leave in order to jumpstart ourcareers. So we kind of pushed into
that space. So the new visionof the organization is we teach entertainment business,
but it's through real life application.Oh so we're doing business. So
you're learning to do business in aprotected environment, and that's how you're going
to learn. Oh. I lovethat. I love that. So one
of the things that you all didis getting this attorney green film together.
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Where are the actors coming from?They're coming from right here, Memphis,
Tennessee, Shelby County. Yeah,yeah, yeah, and that's why it's
Memphis movie production. The majority,I mean the majority of from the actors,
of course, the writers, thebelow the line staff, the majority
of them are from right here.And we focus on you know, we
(11:50):
pull individuals who are part of ourtour club. We pull them in,
but then we allowed other people toget job. So like our casting director,
that's the first time she ever workedin that area. But she had
a desire to do it. Shewas an actress, she had watched other
people do it, and so shedecided that that was something she wanted to
do. We wanted to give herthe opportunity to do it, and so
(12:11):
that's what we do. So there, Yeah, they're coming from right here
in Shelby County. How did youget that man next to you? Larry
Doe? What I am a cheapday? Me go on record, I
am a cheap date A cup ofcoffee in the script? You got me?
Wow? Wow? Wow? No, No, how did I mean?
(12:33):
You know what? You know,we've been knowing each other all our
lives, but this is an areathat I probably we've probably seldomly talked about.
That's been one of the things thatI actually missed throughout my career.
I really wanted to be an actor. Ice Tea has my role. He
had himself, you know, hedidn't have to go out of his space
(12:54):
to do that. That's what Ioften dreamed of, But I kind I
was at the dog and I missedthat both years ago. So now my
agent gives me age appropriate things sothey don't come up as much. Yeah,
but they're starting to come up.I'm actually gonna feel start filming another
movie in two weeks. Angeloma hadto ask me once. She's been my
attorney, but her vision was quiteclear, and the script was great,
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and the role that I play Ihad. Yeah, don't tell we need
to see. Let the cet outthe bag. This is a very suspenseful
movie, even though it's a shortfilm. It got me as soon as
I read the script. But Ithis is what I like to do.
I like to do, And nowthat you know, I don't work as
much now because I'm back on theroad to Barcades featureing Larry Dotson. Now
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what that absolutely love that Caroen isfeeling up for the year and everything's well,
But U, that's what I alwayswanted to do, you know what,
Larry, when you when when yousaid that, what like we've been
knowing each other, I don't knowa long time. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, but that was my aspirationto be on Broadway. Yeah. I
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Attorney Green in high school, grewup. I got a full ride,
Larry to the American Academy of DramaticArts. During that time, they didn't
have living quarters. You had tofind your own place. My daddy told
me, you think I'm going tosend you to New York, I gotta
(14:28):
find you somewhere to live. You'reseventeen. He said, you better find
a school with a dormitory, whichcrushed my dream because I wanted to be
on Broadway because I had taken dramaticlessons all that and I got a full
ride scholarship Attorney. But my father, I was mad with him for a
(14:48):
whole year. But you protective,Yeah, yeah, because he was because
he said we didn't have family there. He said, I'm not sending you
there. And think about that,Larry. That was in the So you
know a lot of stuff's going on. Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, that's
amazing. But that's good. Ican understand that you're you're a talented person.
You could have been a singer,you could have been a lot of
(15:09):
things. But you've been a blessingto meth Tennessee. You know, w
well, thank you because we neverknow where the Lord's going to take Now,
it wasn't meant for me to bethere. You're right where he wants
you to be. Yeah, yeah, Larry, I'm like you, I've
been doing this, do you know, Larry. Not to take away from
this fifth I just want to tellLarry, I know you've been in the
(15:31):
business a long time. I've beendoing radio, Larry for forty eight years
out of here, forty eight andI know you're over fifty. Yeah,
doing your little being in being inthe business. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, that's yeah, that's amazing. But you know what, none of
your listeners have been listening to youmost of those years. Yeah, that's
(15:52):
truthful. This is a this isa wonderful station. It is it is
thanks to the thanks to people likeyou who are in front of the microphone
every day. We're trying to holdit on, Larry, Yep, we're
trying to hold it. This isamazing this is a real good movie.
I want to go back, yousaid, and you you said, Larry,
it was a it's a short film. It is. Yeah, it's
not long. No no, no, it's not the hour, it's not
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the ninety minute film, right,Okay. It's more of a challenge,
I know, for Angela as awriter and for us as actively. We
don't have a lot of time tokind of knock it out the park,
so to speak. So we haveto be pretty good, pretty convincing.
And you got to kind of getthat script and stay engulfed in it,
you know. Okay, you knowthat was that was a challenge for you.
She did a good job too,It was so did you know anything,
(16:37):
Attorney Green about alcoholics, anumbers anonymousor or the twelve step program?
Did you know anything about that towrite this? Of course I was familiar
with the program, but as faras detailed knowledge, no, I did
not know. So Dereus really wasthe one who kind of I love this
(16:57):
because I know Larry knows that I'malso a certified substance abuse counselor a lot
of people don't know. Yeah,and when you when I said, Phil,
I love this in that though it'sa great, great plot for it
because it's gonna be a district ministrytoo. Good. Yeah, good,
absolutely good to those that are goingthrough stuff like that. You're right,
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you're right. We are talking thisafternoon. If you've just tuned in,
Attorney Angela Green, who is thewriter of Fifth Step and Larry Dotson Senior
is here. When we come back, we're gonna tell our listeners where they
can go to see this. Butif you have a question for my guests,
we invite you to call now eightthree three five three five nine three
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four two eight three three five threefive nine three four two will get you
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the Bev Johnson Show. Here's Johnsonand we're talking with Attorney Angela D.
Green and she is the writer ofThe Fifth Step, a new movie that's
going to happen this I think it'sthis weekend. Well we'll get more information.
And the legend Darry Larry Dodson Senioris here who is also in the
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movie. Lady and gentlemen, I'mgoing to our phone lines to talk to
our guests. W D. Ia high caller. How you doing?
They of this? George? Hey, George, how are you? I
want to talk to Larry D realquick. Larry D is listening to you.
Hey, Jeorge, how are you? Larry D? This is Pip
Face, you know, trumpet playerfor ov Wright, Johnny Taylor and Shirley
(19:42):
Brown. Larry D, you rememberwhen I sold up your crouch when that
snake had you dancing and the snakegot excited. Was at the Family Fair
Club? No what we were atthe club. One time we was on
the road with lt D. Thissnake got excited. I said, Larry
(20:02):
off the deck, please, Larrydeck and Larry kept on dancing. The
girls just screaming. Larry kept onthat short He was just taking a little
boo boo. He was taking alittle boo boo, and the snake opened
the mouth I said, all thisain't no show. Larry should have faid
(20:23):
that dog one thing. And Larrybuss his plants and they said, pie
face got the swarm machine. Fiveface got the swarm machine. So Felton
was on that tur you know,with this confunction. Phail said, just
throw the pants back their tie facewill sow it up with quick and George,
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Larry said, that's too much information. All the information now, I'm
putting all the business out there.I want you to do this, and
I'm gonna get the money for usto do it. I'm gonna get the
money for us to do it.You know that Ben jumped out of that
Arab play and he had nothing buta cushion and couldn't swim. If that
ain't the greatest movie gonna be producedby Larry Deep, you know what you're
(21:11):
joking, but you know what actuallytheir there. The script is being read
right now by some folks in Atlanta. I can't talk about it much,
but we're just gonna be believing Godthat maybe they may see the worth in
this particular movie, but that itis so good and delightful. Talk to
you by face. Jerk it offthis phone, right off radio Larry Congratulations
(21:33):
you are some of a bad mother. Shit my mouth. Yeah by George
W. D I a high caller. Oh they hung out. Okay,
now the fifth step. It ishappening when Attorney Green. It is happening
this Sunday at five o'clock PM atthe Malco Powerhouse, Downtown, five four
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the Front Street. To get yourtickets, go to on location Memphis dot
org. On location Memphis dot org. That's it's act. The only that
that's the only place they can getthe tickets. That's the only place you
can get the tickets. Now.You will be able to also get them
on the day of it. Ifseats are still there, it's still available
(22:22):
those tickets. Get them because it'slimited seating. Yes, it is the
seating, and they're going fast.They are going because because folks want to
see Larry dots. That's right,that's right. I will say this though,
every actor that was in the filmdid an excellent job. Some better
than others, but everybody did areally good job. But some some people
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had a more difficult role to play. But it was really really interesting,
you know, to see how enthusedeverybody was, you know, and it
was really a really really good experiencefor me. I have to ask.
We have a duck master, KeenanWalker. Oh yeah, right next to
Larry d Okay, we had anaddition, additional star power. Alright,
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so the film was filmed right herein Memphis and Shelby County. In Shelby
County, yes, ma'am. Wow. And also I understand, are you
all want to have a red carpet. Yes, we will have a red
carpet event that's starting at five pointfifteen. We have several guests so you
can come out and meet the starslike Larry and Keenan and Jermaine and Cynthia
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and everyone else. But also oursponsors, also our production staff, so
we really want to celebrate everyone whocame together to bring this project to Fruition.
Well that sounds good, and thisSunday, and it's this Sunday.
And in mentioning sponsors, I guessI better go ahead and tell her that
first off, Frontline Solutions funded bythe Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. They
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were the backbone of the project.They were the ones who gave us the
funds over two years to do theworkshops with the film Commission as well as
produced as film. The Tennessee EntertainmentCommission, Power Media Solutions, UH,
Ambassadors of Memphis, of course,the Film and Television Commission, Linn Sidler,
Sharing Fox O'Quinn. All of thoseindividuals, they you know, they
(24:22):
undergirded us, gave us the resources. Everyone was paid, you know,
no deferred payments. Everybody was paid. Everybody. Everybody was paid. And
we're we're moving forward with this planand hope to have some distribution, marketing,
(24:45):
promotion, distribution information to report tothe independent filmmakers, because that's always
the question, how do you monetizeyour film project after you spent the money?
What do you need to do?What are the steps that you need
to take. So we're chronicling everythingthat we're doing through this screening as well
as afterwards, so that at theend of the year we can report good
(25:06):
or bad, what we spent,how much did we make, so that
people can use this as they moveforward with their film production companies. And
you know what, I think thiswill be a good time to challenge other
filmmakers, potential filmmakers in Memphis,Tennessee, to look right around the corner
and look through your roller decks.If you have aspirations for doing the film.
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Keep it here, use the talentthat's here, because there's a lot
of people here that are worthy ofthat big screen, I'm telling you.
And we should do that and takethis opportunity while we're in front of this
MinC. Because there's some people Iknow that have money that want to do
film. There have been filmmakers nomatter you've seen the movies. They spend
lots and lots of money. SoI would expect I would challenge them to
(25:48):
not give up, you know.And it's just like a music But is
you one record away you want famaway from being that next person? I
like it absolutely. Batter our phoneline, WU d I a high call.
Hello, how a y'all doing doingwell in yourself? Okay? I
just want to ask a question justto get a little bit of advice.
Congratulations on the movie. But ifyou wrote a song, mister Dodson and
(26:14):
Tronie Green, do you have toget it copyright to be yours? So
legally, when you write that song, it's yours by automatic the moment that
you put it down on paper andmake it plain and tangible. However,
in order to protect that song tobe able to go into court, and
enforce your rights to that song.You have to get it registered. You
(26:37):
have to go ahead and file itwith the US Copyright Office. That's the
only thing that's going to give youthat protection so that you can enforce the
rights that you automatically are given.Okay, So do I go online like
and fill out a form or something. Yes, you can. They do
have an electronic copyright office so thatyou can submit it online. Oh okay,
thank you? All right. Imight be getting in contact with mister
(27:00):
Larry Dobson did for my song.Okay, thank y'all. All right,
welcome, Thank you. W DI a high caller. Hey, bab
are you? I'm doing well?Jewel and you? Yeah? I'm good.
Hey Tony, how you doing?The first thing I need to speak
to is Larry Dawson. What's up? Larry? I am good? How
(27:21):
are you? Donald? Yeah?You remember me? What's your name?
Ambro's mom? Oh? Good morning? How are you? Ambrose mom?
You know you really you really supportyou, really supports your son, don't
you. Yes? I do.Yes, he's very good at it too.
(27:42):
What can I do for you this? Yeah? I was calling to
graduate you on your movie and Ididn't wanting to tell you that I have
a brother named George. Okay,he loved that song, y'all put out
and just as fell with that songtoo. You keep that good work.
(28:06):
Thank you so much. Come comesee the film. Okay, come see
the field, see the film.Okay, all right, thank you,
Jele Bye bye, w d Iah callers Johnson, what's up Richard?
Hey, little daddy, how areyou look? Look? I got a
question to be about this. Lambdoctor, what's up? Lam doc?
(28:30):
Good bron Yeah, look good.I think I talked to you before I
put you in that Black House cabinyou hear me? Okay, I got
the Black House cabinet like uh.I made that up with when uh when
President Obama? What's the black versusblack president? Then the bill? Oh
that's a song. Now that's no, that's his cabinet. So what's your
(28:52):
question, little daddy? I askedabout question. Bit Jo be trying to
rush, no dolls, I'm notdoing, little daddy. We run out
of town. But she good,my course, nels, I won't to
know about the copy right for goodsip of batball. Laugh, doctor,
(29:15):
I'll be saying, I'll be runningwith all the way up. And then
stealing. Okay, So Attorney Greenis right here. She's gonna tell you
how to cover yourself, right right, so they steal myself. Okay,
So Attorney Green's gonna tell you peoplestill steal his stuff. What does he
need to do? So? Ihope you have filed that copyright with the
(29:37):
U. S. Copyright Office,because if you've done that, then you
can go ahead and get somebody tosend that seas and desist letter. There
you go. You can go aheadand get that get them to pull that
music down if they've taken it andput it out there. All right,
thank you, little daddy, thankyou, he says, folks be using
his words. Was the name ofthat black rock? He has a black
(30:00):
house cabinet. Oh yeah, sohe's put people in his black house cab
so thoughtful. All right? Iknow. W D I a HI caller,
Hi caller, you're on the air, Hey Freddy? Yes you yes?
(30:22):
Hi every day? Hey Freddie?How are you? I'm doing good
at Attorney Green. I just wantedto call them and say congratulations and looking
forward to seeing you end up.Thank you, come see Sunday. Okay,
we'll do all right. I'm blessed. Attorney Green tell people how they
can come and see the Fifth Step. They can secure their tickets for the
(30:45):
Fifth Step by going to on Locationmphisdot org. As soon as you go
to that website, it will takeyou right where you need to go to
purchase those tickets. And I wantto be clear on this because some people
may hear this and not then theyshow down there on Sunday, will they
be able to pay to get inor no, they will be able to
pay to get in if there arestill seats available. Okay, yeah,
(31:10):
And it starts what time? Thered carpet events starts at five fifteen and
it's gonna run to about six fifteen, six thirty, and then the film
would start and then there'll be ashort Q and A afterwards. We should
be all wrapped up by eight.By eight o'clock, you're out of there.
And so people will be able tomeet the actors. They'll be able
to meet the actors, the productionstaff, the sponsors, everyone, all
(31:32):
the dignitaries for the film and musiccommunity here in Shelby County. We've invited
everyone to come on out and celebratethis. It's gonna be great. Yes,
larry D, what do you haveto say for last words to our
listeners about the Fifth Step. Pleaseplease just do yourself a favor and come
out and get get to be apart of a great evening dressed to impress.
(31:53):
All right, Yeah, we're gonnabe shoved. Are you always be
sho? Chris is a great movie. I admonish all of you Memphis come
out and support us this memphisone.All right, yeah, and I will
this last question to agree with thecompany. O l M. You're all
are going to be doing other projectslike that. Yes we do, I
(32:14):
mean oil them. We're five oneC three nonprofit organization and it is our
desire to continue to do this workand to help our filmmakers and our music
creators be able to jump start theircareers their creative businesses right here from home,
not having to leave. Sounds good. The Fifth Step on this Sunday
at the Powerhouse. That's downtown.Downtown. That's a nice place. I've
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never been there yet. Oh well, you know we wrote we ain't new
to this. We grouted it.I love it. I love it,
I love it The Fifth Step.Thank you all so much for being here.
Thanks having Angela Green the writer andR Dotson, s lead singer of
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the Barcades to me, You're stillalways gonna be the lead singing. There
you go. Hey, you know, Larry, when I leave, When
I leave, every day I playthis Songtitude by Mark Baker. Oh,
that's his version of that's his version. Favorite song, right, that's my
favorite song, the Marka's Attorney Green, my favorite of all time. Yeah,
(33:23):
yeah, it does. What youwant to be may not be what
the people see. I hear you, brother, Thank you for having us.
Thank you Larry Dotson and Attorney AngelaGreen, And thank you callers,
Thank you listeners for joining us thisday on the Bev Johnson Show. We
do, we really do appreciate you. So until tomorrow, please be safe,
(33:46):
keep a cool head, y'all,don't let anyone still your joy until
tomorrow. I'm Bev Johnson, andy'all keep the faith. The views and
opinions discust on The Bev Johnson Showare that of the hosts and callers and
not those of the staff and sponsorsup w D I A
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