NO BS with DR. WARREN HARPER

No BS Black People... Need People.. Who Believe in Black People Enough..Not to Believe Every Bad Thing They Hear About Black People with Behavioral & Political Health Consultant Dr. Warren Harper on The Bev Johnson Show on WDIA Radio.

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Our behavioral political health consultant, doctor Warren Harper is here.

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Our topic of conversation, no bs, bad stacks.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
Black people need people who believe in black people enough
not to believe in every bad thing they hear about
black people. And our second topic, the current president's ongoing
destruction of democracy.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Doctor Harper. Welcome back, folks, been asking about you. I'm
so glad to be back, you know, and think and
thank everyone who misses me a bit.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
And I'm gonna try my best to do my best
whenever I come here, because I want to help everybody.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
That's right, that's right, well, doctor Harper, boy, this time
no BS Bad Stats. Black people need people who believe
in black people enough not to believe every bad thing
they hear about black people.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
And you know, see, the thing is that is that
once someone, particularly some Caucasian white person, makes some statement
about black people, the first thing we think it must
be true, right, because they said it.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
They said it.

Speaker 8 (09:50):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
The second thing I want to point out is that
is that I don't want to ignore what the current
president's doing.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm tired of centering him first. Yes, in my conversation.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Okay, we need to get back on talking about us
and other things that are going on, but still keeping
an eye on that trickster.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yes, okay, that's right, all right, doctor Harper, Well let's.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Start okay, Well, let's start off by introducing to the
listening audience doctor Ivory A. Tolson, who is the author
of the book entitled no BS Bad Statistics. Black people
need people who believe in black people enough not to
believe every bad thing they hear about black people unquote.
Doctor Tolson is a professor of counseling psychology at Howard University,

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the President of Quality Education for Minorities, the editor in
chief of the Journal of Negro Education and Executive editor
of the Journal of Policy Analysis and Research, published by
the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, Inc. Doctor Tolson starts off
chapter three of his book by saying, quote, what does

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the line there are more Black men in jail than
in college have in common with the Jerry curl Let
me repeat that. Wow, what does the line there are
more black men in jail than in college have in
common with the Jerry Curle and swer? They were both
invented by white men, born badly by black people, and

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left a nasty stain on the shoulders of millions of
black men and women.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
So here we go.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, okay, what if everything you thought you knew about
black people generally and educating black children specifically was based
on bad statistics, which is basically bad math, bad research.
We often hear things like black boys are dying breed,
or they're more Black men in prison than college, or
black children fail because single mothers raised them and black

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students don't read. What this book clearly points out to educators, parents, advocates,
and students is how to avoid this kind of bad
research and raise the expectations and create an educational agenda
for black children that is based on good research and
good data. Let's start off with the myth of there
being more black men in prison than college, which was

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popularized by the Justice Policy Institute report which was entitled
Sale Blocks or Classrooms. This research was done back in
two thousand and two. Now, is there any one in
the listening audience which has not heard this myth before?
And if that is the case, then you must have
not been listening, because it seriously indicted black males as

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encouragible school and educationally avoidant and more criminally inclined towards
corruption than attending and graduating college and then moving on
to a better law abiding life. Now, doctor Tolson admits
that when he read and heard this statement many years ago,
and when it was repeated even by then presidential candidate
or Barack Obama, who said, quote, we have more work

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to do when more young black men languish in prison
than attend colleges and universities across America unquote. This was
said back in two thousand and seven. But in twenty twelve,
doctor Tolson took up the talents to analyze this shocking
indictment against black males and found out that the line
there are more black men in jail than in college

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is wrong, no matter how you contextualize, qualify, or articulated.
He went on to say that today there are more
than there are more. There are approximately six hundred thousand
more black men in college than jail, and his best
research indicates suggests that the line was never true. So
the question is, well, if it were never true, where

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and why was it publicized and allowed to be cited
all over the entire world. Doctor Tolton's research found out
that the data or numbers used in the original research
were incorrect, yes, incorrect, and that at that time only
one thousand colleges UH were that that basically had not
reported only one only one thousand colleges were not reporting

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their headcount on black males and at a lot of
colleges that didn't report any numbers or HBCUs along with
major universities like the one he attended back in two
thousand and two, which was Temple University, and that he
along with hundreds of thousands of other black male college students,
were not counted. When the Justice Policy Institute estimated, they

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estimated that there were more black men in prison than
in college and that back in two thousand and one,
only two thousand, seven hundred and thirty four colleges and
universities reported having at least one black male student versus
twenty eleven where you had over four thousand, five hundred
college universities across the US reporting having at least one

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black male student. And when a researcher from the Justice
Policy Institute, which was responsible for making this false statement,
was questioned regarding this major flaw in their data, doctor
Tolston indicated that he did not think the Justice Policy
Institute intended to mislead the public, but quote, I do
think they show arrogance and impudence when they still stand

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by their findings today. So what are some unintended consequences
of spreading this myth about black men? Number One, The
myth leads young black men vulnerable to stereotypes formed by
black and white teachers and stereotypes formed by black young
males about themselves. Number two, the myth causes us to
set the bar too low for academic achievement and establish

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misguided policies for black men. Doctor Tolston states that merely
achieving college enrollment that exceeds incarceration is not an acceptable objective.
Black males need programs like honors in ap classes, academic advisement,
and academic clubs to help them to excel in school
and graduate from college. Now, what he also reported is

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that many anti black people and anti black politicians didn't
want us to know. Which is that according to the
Department of Justice, between the years two thousand and two
thousand and nine, the same time that this author was
talking about black males and how they're in prison. Between
two thousand and two thousand and nine, the rate increased
among white women in jails in prison was greater than

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any other race or gender group, while at the same time,
during the ten year period, the rate of incarceration decreased
for black men by six point six percent, decreased for
black women by twelve percent, and increased for white women
by forty four percent. Now, I bet none of you
in the listening audience ever heard that the rate of

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white women in jails and prisons was greater than any
other race or gender group. And why Well, in my opinion,
we have news media and politicians who capitalize on negatively
framing black men and boys and not only diminishing the
academica achievement spirit in black boys, but also condemning the
future of black men to be anything except dysfunctional, criminal, single, dangerous, obsolete,

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and incarcerated. The next myth, doctor Tolson bursts open is
the one that says smart black students are acting white. Now,
but let's look at the myth from this standpoint, and
that is, do black students purposefully underachieve because they attribute
being smart to acting white? Acting white has been described

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as situations where some black adolescents make fun and put
down their black peers for engaging in behaviors seem to
be that of white adolescents.

Speaker 9 (17:21):
Now.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I remember some semblance of this type of criticism being
stated differently when I was in grade school in high school,
and it was stated when a black student showed how
much they were excited about answering questions or speaking up.
In general, what was usually said was, quote, you're just
trying to show off.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Unquote. There was not an ethnic group.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Or white association in this criticism. So who put the
white in this statement?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
To begin with?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Doctor Tolson informs us that the acting white theory originated
in nineteen eighty by doctor John ugbu Ogbu. He was
a Nigerian man who was also an American anthropologist. The
acting white theory has been used to explain the achievement
gaps between black and white students. I even recall doctor
Tolston says hearing then Senator Barack Obama in two thousand

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and four stated that black children can achieve, can't achieve
unless we raise their expectations, turn off the television, and
eradicate the slander that says a black youth with the
book is acting white unquote. In rebuttal to this theory
and myth, we have doctor Edward Rihimes who stated, quote,
somehow many Black Americans, which are usually the affluent or

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the ones who have lots of money and the disconnected ones,
have swallowed this misconception about African American youth being anti
intellectual and anti education. This kind of idea concerning nerds
and geeks did not originate in the African American community,
but in the predominantly white, middle class suburban communities unquote. Now,
in my professional opinion, when I hear this criticism of

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a black intelligent student, what it says to me is
that the ones who are critical of him or her.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Have not done their bookwork.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Who have not studied and who ignore the importance of
exhibiting the knowledge that one has worked to obtain. These
are the envious and small minded brothers and sisters who
have been brainwashed to believe that being smart and showing
it is not of black or African origin to begin with.
It further says that these misguided brothers and sisters who
who criticize their fellow black students for acting white, do

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not know their own ancestors history of establishing ancient Egyptian
universities as far back as the year two thousand b C,
whereas speaking up and proudly expressing oneself in class was
the expected norm.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
The point is.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
The problem with the acting white theory is that it
promotes the misconception that the majority of black students under
achieved and the few that our achievers are in some
way abandoning their underachieving brothers and sisters, which is far
from the truth. The truth that the outspoken brothers and
sisters are modeling for their scared and unprepared fellow black
students how to excel in the classroom and being proud

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of one's accomplishment.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
We can stop there.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Wow Wow, Doctor Harper You've said some stuff, and I'm
sure people want to ask questions, and yeah, I have
a few.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Two.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
If you've just tuned in this morning, we are talking
with doctor Harper, our behavior and political health consultant. The
topic first, no BS bad statistics. Black people need people
who believe in black people enough not to believe every

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bad thing they hear about black people. If you have
a question or two four doctor Harper, we invite you
to call now nine zero one five three five nine
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three four two. If you can call in you have
a question for doctor Harper, email me at Bev Johnson
at iHeartMedia dot com. Bev Johnson at iHeartMedia dot com.

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Speaker 5 (22:54):
We are talking with doctor Warren Harper, our behavioral political
health consultant, and our topic no BS bad stats Black
people need people who believe in black people enough not
to believe every bad thing they hear about black people,
Doctor Harper.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
We're going to our phone lines to start with Carl.

Speaker 8 (23:17):
Hi, Carl, Good morning, Doctor Harper, and miss Bell Johnson,
Good morning, Carl, Doctor Harper. Once you start talking today,
it brought that memories when I was sixteen years old. Yes,
I have math teacher, and she said, everyone go to

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the board, work on math, and I'm going to time
you to see how fast you can do it, because
competition is tough. I kept succeeding in.

Speaker 12 (23:48):
Math, was good ed it.

Speaker 8 (23:51):
The other guys started saying I was a nerd. I
wasn't one of them. My teacher says, thought. The reason
you all are upset because you're not trying. You're not
trying to do good in math because you need math

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down the road. General are younger people to write a
check book to bounce your budget. There's no bs on that.
As she said, then she's also put on the board
eleven percent at the time. He said, if eleving me
sell us in this country, that means the other eighty

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nine percent must not be black. Then she started magnipulating
the numbers showing if people wanted to show how bad
we were, they can just take a certain pointance of
numbers saying these bus the people, and how she phrased it,
these people aren't no good because she would dilate the

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numbers in front of everybody.

Speaker 9 (24:54):
I thought that all the time and had brought me
to my life.

Speaker 8 (24:59):
Now feeling is salty sometimes, Doctor Harper, when I see
politicians bote numbers at us, and I am offended because
he is salting me. Every math teacher I had, every
economic teacher I had, and all economic seminars I went to.
So when it comes to black people, you have to

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listen to who is delivering the message and see what's
going on. The Center for New Jersey twenty five hours,
Stay Facts, Doctor Harper, City.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Of Cary Book and Beat and beat trum Thurman's record.

Speaker 8 (25:38):
That's right, Yes, yes he did, Miss Belle Johnson. But
during the course of the conversation with Dr Harper, yes
he laid out facts. You deal with facts and numbers
when you're dealing with people who are trying to make
foods out of you, in in in public life, in
politicians that what they do. Another example of that is

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Don Trump's senior kept talking about investments. All these companies
are gonna give investments to the United States of America.
Investment does not mean jobs right away. Just because I
told you I'm gonna invest five hundred million dollars, I
didn't say when I'm gonna get started in building no factories.

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But the word game that he's playing with us make
us think or we don't have a job two months
from now because he said so that's bs. Do people
realize how long we take to be a factory yellow? Okay,
when he says you're gonna have some pain for a while,
but how long is a while when two months come,

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he's gonna come back and say we still have investments.

Speaker 9 (26:49):
To try to make you feel better. That that BS he's.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
Given to people. And then when some black people don't
hear another black person talking about investment or anything, they
think the only people doing investment are people like Don
Trump's singer work Gains. He's doing.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
And now the thing that he is doing is affecting
people indirectly. Now they'll know I may sometimes tease her
about her coffee, Well, coffee is going up. The reason
coffee is going up because It's not that not enough
coffee places in the United States of America to produce

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the coffee that we need. It comes from zill And
now he putt Terrists on that price is going to
go up, go up bit time and indirectly with Terrists,
things are beginning to happen. People may not be able
to buy a new car now, so what they may
have to do go rent a car. But guess what,

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the rental car company know what's happening. They have raised
prices for forty dollars to eighty two dollars now just
to rent a car for a day. And what's going
to happen Memorial Day holiday? That for a day holiday,
what do people want to do, Doctor Harper. They want
to get in there. They want to go see Drandma.
They are gonna see Drandma by driving or flying. If

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you don't have a good enough car to go see Drandma,
you got to go rent one. They know that chars
are affecting this, that's why they raise the prices on that.
But we don't see that because we are seeing we
are being said bs by Don Trump Singer, a seven
eight year old man. A thirty four can get the
fella thirty fourth time and get the feller and we'll

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turn our faith into that type of bs. Explain to me,
doctor Harper, as I hang up, why we father that? Sir?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Thank you Carl Well, you know, thank you, you welcome.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
The short answer is is that we've been as as
as a brother Malcolm said, we've been bamboozled. There are
too many of us that that basically heard the heard
the hoky dough. They heard jobs, prosperity we could have.
You're gonna have more money than you could ever expend.
You know, some people are just that small minded, but
also that that that idiotic to believe it all all
of a sudden, some white guy is gonna step into

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a leadership position and gonna do something for you black man. See,
that's delusional to believe that white folks are gonna go
out of their way or go or basically do their
job and gonna benefit you. It's never been the case
in the history of this country. Why would it be now?
And as you're pointed out, it takes years and years
and years and years to build a factory, plus the

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supplies that you need to equip that factory with what
you need to for whatever it is it's going to produce,
takes years to produce and to get to that factory.
Plus you got to hire the right kind of people,
and we have not trained the kind of people that
can work in those factories sufficiently. So what he's promising
you is smoking mirrors.

Speaker 9 (29:42):
W D I A Hi, Beverly, Hey, good morning.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I'm doing well today in yourself.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
I'm doing fine this rainy Thursday.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
Hello, doctor Harper, and thank you for being there. And
it's rainy, bloody well and take nothing, doctor Harper. I
was just listening to you when you were talking about
how uh some some of us really it's an insult
when some of us tell the other person you trying

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to act quite? Are you talking proper?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
It's I'm laughing because I used to get that all
the time.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yeah, yeah, you have. You don't have that that Southern accent.
And plus the fact your diction and.

Speaker 10 (30:36):
And your use of words, you know, are good.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
I think it's like a part of the crafts and
drunk you know, they want to pull you down to
the level and they think, because you know, you speak
a certain way that you are identifying with the other
race and not identifying with the black rains and now man,
all black were supposed to talk a certain way and

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white people are supposed to talk a certain way.

Speaker 10 (31:06):
And that used to always bother.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
Me when I was hear somebody say, are you just
trying to talk quite? Are you just trying to talk proper?
You know, And they didn't realize what they were saying. Yeah,
I'm supposed to talk proper.

Speaker 8 (31:20):
I'm supposed to speak speak.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
Proper words and proper language and put the sentences together properly.
But you know, like you say, you know, we our
way of thinking, it's just been bamboozles. You know, I
guess back from slavery and stuff that you know, we're
supposed to talk, we're supposed to act a certain way,
and when you don't act and talk that way, you're

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almost like a trade us to your race to some people,
you know. So you know, I used to hate to
hear that when I was hear somebody say that, instead
of being quiet and trying to emulate themselves to speak
properly and to you know, pronounce the words correctly and
things like that, you know, they should take notes and

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try to imitate it.

Speaker 9 (32:11):
But what they do is they insult.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
It's an insult, and.

Speaker 8 (32:15):
You don't think you're right.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
And the sad reality is is that where did proper
language or communication come from? It had to come from
the first people who were on this planet, who have
basically taught or given other people the model of what proper,
proper English or proper proper way of speaking is. You know,
the sad reality is that if you if you take

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a look at other countries, you know, you always have
some groups of people who are basically trying to trying
to bring down or put down other people because of
the way they talk, the way they look, or whatever.
And see those people are usually the ones who are
trying to only both boast of their own sense of
self behind trying to step on someone else. So believe me,

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I think that if we ever talk about something being proper,
we cannot ask ourselves did it come from white people?
If anything's proper, it came from us to begin with.

Speaker 9 (33:11):
All right, thanks about proper, Welcome, Thank you, Beverly.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
W d I A hi MT. Hello, somebody, Hey Beverly Lan.

Speaker 8 (33:25):
How you feel?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I feel fine?

Speaker 9 (33:27):
MT?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
How are you?

Speaker 9 (33:29):
I'm feeling feeling good good, feeling good good? How you
doing about the Hopper.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm fine, brother, good to he's your voice.

Speaker 9 (33:38):
Again, brother Hopper.

Speaker 12 (33:40):
Here listen. I you know they're talking about the mind
train and the foult pattern of blacks.

Speaker 9 (33:51):
But it was always uh uh, you know, people saying properly.

Speaker 12 (33:56):
It's called speaking correctly correct. You know, it's not proper,
it's correct. And the fact of the matter, when you know,
when coming up the people that would would would talking
about you talking proper white, it was it was the
riff rap the niggas that said that, Okay, they talk

(34:19):
like that when you talking correct? Oh you trying to talk?
Why That's how the riff rapp that was their terminology.
That's how they fell, and that's how they still sea.
It's not talking proper, it's talking correct and nothing.

Speaker 9 (34:34):
You know, it's new undertone, it's it's uh, it's.

Speaker 12 (34:37):
So getting so bad out here. And like I heard
you say, delusion of it is so many people so
delusion on that in this present day and time black
people of color, and I myself, you know, I'm from
the Civil rights movie. I remember when Martin the King

(34:58):
was young and articky and how well he spoke. But
you gotta blame doctor. We gotta blame these these riff
rap parents because our young people are they just I
mean with the you know, in the in the black
I'm talking about the black community. It's sad that uh,

(35:22):
you know, black women will not speak up and tell
these young girls the true because a lot of them
are so beautiful and pretty.

Speaker 9 (35:33):
But you know, like I say, he is nothing new
under the sun. When I was coming up, the only
girls that won't even hair pink and green and green
with the street girls. Okay, hello, somebody with the different colors.

Speaker 12 (35:48):
And these young girls are thinking it's pretty, but their
mothers won't tell them the truth and the fact of
the matter. When these young boys, because boys are boys,
when they see them girls that they her colors like that,
they already know what they are. They fast girls. But
these women now won't tell their daughters. I'm seeing these

(36:09):
young treaty girls man so hurtful with so much makeup on,
like groupaul, and these are young girls and no one
is these ladies are not telling these young girls that
it really makes them look like a man, like a groupoul.

(36:29):
And I'm not here to make tricks. I'm gonna sell
the truth and shame the devil we are selling these young.

Speaker 9 (36:36):
Girls, these young boys just like they had. That's this
guy was.

Speaker 12 (36:41):
If some young lady from Mensal was riding with this
this guy, she should have known he was a killer.
Her mother wouldn't even tell her. This negro doctor got
tattoos in his faith, with a tattoo of an ace
of spade, and driving so fast he wrecked the car
and he tried to bring it on the police. He

(37:03):
said it was a police fault. And the lady was
was from here, a young, nice.

Speaker 9 (37:07):
Looking young lady. Her brother some is a rapper here
and this guy, see, I.

Speaker 12 (37:13):
Mean, this man got tattoos all in his faith. That
girl mother should have told him, little girl, that man,
that's death right there. Why are these young women denaling
with these guys and they covered the tattoos that they
ain't gotta be covered the tattoos.

Speaker 9 (37:27):
They got them all over the loans everything. Why these
women want tell these youngerl that they headed for the
piece of hair, messing with these sorry guys like that.
All these young black guys ain't got tattoos.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Now, you're right, and I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
And you know I used to hear you years ago
MT talk about these tattoos, and I was saying, well, EMT, look.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
But you know, an MT, I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I don't like the tattoos all over your face. And
I don't like that. I don't it.

Speaker 9 (37:57):
Will see the fact of the matter.

Speaker 12 (37:58):
That's the signer. I'm ready to die and go to hell. Well,
ain't nothing pritty about it.

Speaker 8 (38:04):
And you.

Speaker 9 (38:06):
Setting theyselves up for the pits of hell. Get rid
of this stuff. Tell these young girls that they don't
have to put all this makeup on. They got natural
beauty me and like natural beauty. It's nothing like natural beauty.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Okay, Well, MT, you keep telling them and let me
move on. MT. Thank you, MT.

Speaker 9 (38:25):
Okay, bev you know I love you.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
I love you back.

Speaker 9 (38:28):
MT.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Hello, somebody.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I used to whint to call him, you know, dot corver.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
I used to say, MT. Talking about this, But but
I I see what he's talking about. And I don't
understand it. I don't understand why these young folks want
to put tattoos all in their face.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
And I don't get it. I don't get it. But anyway,
w d I a hi caller.

Speaker 10 (38:53):
Hey, good morning, Beth, Hi reader.

Speaker 8 (38:57):
How you doing.

Speaker 10 (38:58):
I'm just so I am so happy.

Speaker 9 (39:00):
Ell.

Speaker 10 (39:00):
Maybe because the storm blue doctor harprom by the way,
I need.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
To hear his both the Storr way. Well he's here, Rita, he's.

Speaker 10 (39:07):
Here, and this is this is what's on my mind,
because I like to listen to him more than I
like to hear in the selfish, I know, letting them
hear people talk because I'm learning by listening. I'm from
that era that I remember that my dad. I remember
when he was called the boy down in Mississippi. You know,
I'm old enough like that. And my daddy did not respond,

(39:30):
he couldn't respond. And I remember asking him, Dad, how
you say you hadn't no boy? And he said, baby,
I will tell you. And sure enough it been just
maybe maybe maybe about twenty years ago, twenty five years ago.
My dad said if he had said something, he wouldn't
have been able to live to raise his girls and

(39:50):
his boys. And what I'm seeing now, I think, and
I know, I know the younger people, maybe the older
people in some of my older you know, mature friends,
they are making preparations. They're they're doing things.

Speaker 9 (40:05):
For what might happen.

Speaker 10 (40:06):
And I know some people they're you know, they're doing
you know boots on the ground, dancing and smiling and
smoking and shooting.

Speaker 8 (40:13):
But they're they need to, we need to, we need
to be preparing.

Speaker 10 (40:19):
Just get your plan together. That's when trying to do.
Get your fund together, That's when I'm trying to do.
And I know no one is listening to that. But
I know, doctor Harper, you understand. You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (40:31):
I know you do.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Sure, I know you do.

Speaker 10 (40:34):
You ain't gonna tell me.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
I know you do.

Speaker 10 (40:35):
I'm making you say. I know you understand what I'm saying.
I love you, and we have we we're every besides,
some gonna be lost, some are gonna be lost because
what we have in this administration, it's this is a
billionaire's game and we're just the pawns in it. And uh,

(40:58):
the hands of time are slowly turning back. They're trying
to slowly turn it back. And I think we've got
some power, but we just I think it is so
discombobulated right now. Because the older ones got the they
got the vision of what's going on. They understand it.
But the other generations they don't understand. They think it's

(41:20):
just they think it's gonna stop. They think it's just
gonna stop and just go back to business as usual.
And it's not we're in for some We're in for
some sorrows, some tears, some death. It's it's things that
we need to be preparing ourselves for. And on that note,
doctor Harper, I wish I could just have a class
with you. And I don't know if you set up classes,

(41:41):
because you know, sometimes I do. I get with this
situation going on. I know that it's I get out
of my I get out of my own Steff. I
have to get out of my own self and tell
myself if you need to slow down, you need to stop.
Just don't say anything to yourself, not somebody else. Don't
say anything else to yourself. I love you all, and
I'm just listening to doctor Hoppers because I love to

(42:03):
hear you more so than talk because I listened. You know,
when I hear people come and do this like they
do not have a clue what's really really going on?

Speaker 9 (42:11):
Right? Thank you, Thank you so much. I love y'all.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Thank you for listening. HOBBYE w D I a HI caller,
Hey bab how are you doing? Hey Meredith? I'm doing
well in yourself system.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Fantastic, Doctor Harper. Listen, you are truly myth when you're
not here. Okay, so whatever you did, listen, try to
come everything a week. We need to so bad, but listen.

Speaker 9 (42:37):
I came up with one reason.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
This is not about the topic.

Speaker 9 (42:39):
So next week or any other week, I would.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
Love to hear your thoughts on Elon Musk coming to Memphis,
Tennessee and myphics allowing him to come. I just want
to hear what you have to say about it because
I value your opinion so much. Last thing is emt MT.
You did exactly what in my opinion, Doctor Harper is
talking about the brainwashing you so brain and watch against
black folks. Do you never have nothing positive to say

(43:03):
about it? I get we we have a tattoo. We
are the only ones. But like doctor Harper say, all
these tistics they put out there, it's not true.

Speaker 12 (43:10):
We just buy into it against ourselves.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
So every nowaday I get the tattoo.

Speaker 9 (43:15):
But call me in one time and say something nice
about not your folks.

Speaker 12 (43:18):
Thanks you'll letting me in today, all.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Right, Meredith, Thank you, Meredith.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Dr Harper, well quickly, you know it was a surprise
to me when I even heard about this, this this building,
you know, buying the building, et cetera, et cetera, and
this this is going to be the major, the major
distribution and the place where all.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
These things are going to be made.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
It was a surprise to me because it seemed like
it happened overnight, and I was wondering, well, wait a minute,
when did this start and did it go through the
appropriate channels? Did did all the politicians discuss this with
with this with their constituents here in Memphis, and did
we did we agree to this or was this something
that that people say is going to be good for
the city, And all of a sudden it kind of

(43:56):
flies over everyone's head. You cannot trust any billionaire that's
only concerned about money. They ain't talking about thousands of jobs.
They're not talking about how it's not going to impact
your your utilities, which it is, okay. So the thing
is that I don't trust anyone like Elon Musk, knowing

(44:18):
that he is not only a South African in nature,
meaning that he is a total apartheid loving kind of
white boy to begin with, and so coming to Memphis,
which is predominantly black, I think is basically his plan
on destroying this particular city.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
And its economy. That's what I think. I don't trust it.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
And believe me, I think if our politicians were really
really concerned about about black people, not just about well,
we're gonna make more money and we're gonna have these businesses,
seeing is believing, and I don't see it, and I
don't think we're gonna notice it either.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
We are talking with doctor Harper.

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(45:17):
every bad thing they hear about black people. Hold on, y'all,
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Make Gordy bight here wrong?

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Listen to what to say.

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in Memphis, Tennessee, April third, twenty twenty five. Enjoyed this
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(47:19):
in black people enough not to believe every bad thing
they hear about black people. We will continue with our
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(49:27):
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Speaker 14 (50:11):
Hey, sister, good afternoon, sister.

Speaker 9 (50:15):
And doctor Harper, good afternoon.

Speaker 14 (50:18):
Thank you, doctor Harper. You stated that XAI probably was
initiated overnight, correct, and we as the public, got it
the next day. So that solidified that and certainly what
bagged that up. The Memphis Flyer had a nice article

(50:39):
August twenty twenty four talking about how that was not
properly negotiated, pursued, contracting all that's required for actual approvement
before it was approved. Okay, so that just kind of

(51:03):
illustrate that. Okay. Second of all, I think we can
all just in general believe or agree, I would say,
on this one thing. And it's just for a little
moving pieces that we have been recipients, if you will,

(51:27):
of waste, misuth, abuse and fraud.

Speaker 8 (51:35):
And when we not that's correct.

Speaker 14 (51:38):
I'm three scores in ten truly grateful for it. So
that's been that way all my life. Certainly my parents
I heard them discuss it, and even grandparents. So to me,
that's a fact. I'm not looking at a particular party

(52:00):
or individuals. That's a fact. If that fact is correct,
then isn't it time that we try something else, whatever
the something else might be, to hopefully do what need
to be done is to what eliminate that that fact?

Speaker 8 (52:25):
Now?

Speaker 14 (52:26):
Okay, So with that, the only thing we can do
in general is what, as Reverend Jesse Jackson say, keep hope, alive,
hope for the best. Because we don't know, do we
we don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
We don't.

Speaker 14 (52:47):
Have to try something. I'm not saying in or whatever
we see today, it's correct, but just talking and thinking
in general with those four pieces of that fact that
I don't think any of us earnestly can deny. And

(53:11):
when we look at it on our local level, oh
out on we don't have enough time to point out
nor call out all of those four things that certainly
have occurred to all of us as citizens from whom
our own people. So we just got to get out

(53:37):
of to me our personal emotional feelings and thoughts, not
negating them, because those are our feelings and thoughts, but
we need to kind of look at things just a
little bit more open mindedly factually. Now would you agree?

Speaker 9 (54:01):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I agree, because I think oftentimes we're dealing with opinions
and faith. You really can't argue with faith, and every
everybody has an opinion. But if you got facts, then then.

Speaker 14 (54:13):
You can run with something. You can dialogue with something
if it's a fact. So that means what a fact
is not attached to what one person, one party, one
nothing is just a fact. And I think for us

(54:35):
as African Americans, that is where we get lost when
it comes down to really want to discuss or explore
any subject matter. We lose sight of the fact. So

(54:55):
to me, keep the fact in the center, don't play
no for a cor with it. Don't look at it
as good or bad, right or wrong. Keep it in
the center. Talk about the fact. And I don't care
if you take as long as Corey Booker did his marriage.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
That all right, sister, Thank you, sister, have a good
one YouTube. Bye bye, big Kahunah.

Speaker 9 (55:21):
Good afternoon, Beverly. And it is quite refreshing to hear
from doctor Harper. And I want to absolutely wish you
well in life, in you and everything. And you are
great to be on this radio station because I jumped
in and I was hearing about what you were saying earlier.

(55:42):
And it makes a lot of sense. I've been telling
people over and over again throughout the campaign. Donald Trump
cares about nobody but Donald Trump. And like you said,
I don't trust no Elon Musk, He's a part of
a part time he don't have no respect for black
people or whatever. Now Here it is you got people

(56:02):
that jumped on this radio station to May horn Fort,
Donald Trump, and Elon Musk. Well, we need to get
this make government smaller, and we need to we need
to put the tariffs in because that to make all
of the companies come back. It makes no sense. It's madness,
doctor Harper, that people sit back and supports this madness.

(56:27):
Because here it is. You got a man, Donald Trump.
He comes here to take a brecking ball to the Constitution.
He don't listen to any judges. He's shipping people off
over to concentration camp. Whether you innocent or not does
not matter. And now he doesn't put the death flow
on the United States with these terriffs. Now he put

(56:50):
teriffs on every country but North Korea and Russia. Makes
no sense to me. And people is in support of
this madness. And I just I just want to ask
you one question, doctor Hopper.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Hello, what's the question?

Speaker 8 (57:12):
Okay? All right?

Speaker 9 (57:15):
With Donald Trump and these tarriffs, you know how people
saying things about fact. The fact is that he hasn't
done it, and you can't unwind it. We know that,
of course. And I'm hanging up and listen for what
you're seeing from Donald Trump. What is your projection of
what's going to happen to us in the future, And

(57:36):
that's you know, part of tariff and his behavior alienate
the United States, going against all of the friendly company
countries and going against going with the country against us.
And I just want your summation of that.

Speaker 8 (57:50):
And thank you.

Speaker 9 (57:51):
Beverly for having doctor hop on and allowing me to speak.
You're welcome, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
You welcome, Bacahona, doctor harp Yea.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
I think that that that we're that that he is
going to turn back the clock to the nineteenth century.
I think that everything that our forefathers fought for in
terms of our civil rights and civil rights and things
like that are.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Going to be abolished.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
I think that, you know what, I was talking a
little bit with David yesterday and and you know, we
talked about how how Hitler killed six million European Jews,
but he also total number of killings, he killed ten
million people. He the other the other four million people
were labeled, uh, they were labeled enemies of the state,

(58:35):
enemies of the state. Now, my thinking is that it's
not going to be long before this this this current
person in the White House is going to set his
sights on black people. Now, he's already dealing with people
of color, with the other immigrants that are coming into
our country, and he's dealing with them in a very
cruel and humane manner, but by.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
The same token.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
See, he's he he's testing out how how much he
can get away with by by breaking laws and ignoring
rights and things like that, how much he can get
away with because see, at some point what he's doing
is going to start focusing more and more on black people.
Keep in mind, Elon Musk comes from a country that
that basically was all about apartheid. It is believed that

(59:18):
the current president's father was a Nazi. You know, it's
believed that because he was arrested outside of a march
that are out of a convention that was being held
many many years ago. The bottom line is that I
think that that we are going to be put in
a civil war, black against white, good against evil, and
we're going to be the good. But we are not

(59:40):
prepared for that. So therefore we are going those of
us who protest, whether you're protesting on campuses, universities, or
whether we're prosting, protesting in the street, there's going to come.
They're going to start using that label of enemies of
the state because you are exercising your rights, which is
a right that says you can challenge your government.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
And see they're going to take.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Away your ability to do that by saying that you
are an enemy of the state by even coming up
and trying to question what we're doing. And when they
start staying saying that in this open season on black
males and females and children, because at that point, what
won't kill you one way or the other, they'll they'll
just deport you to another country.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
Back to our phone line, w d I a Prince
of the Jewels, the dear slayer, the crappie killer.

Speaker 15 (01:00:32):
Yes, no one says it better than Bev Jefson.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
How you doing be I'm doing well today printing you I'm.

Speaker 15 (01:00:40):
On the top shelfers always. And doctor Harper, how you
doing to day, sir, I'm doing fine. Brothers, I'm going
to hear your boss is always doctor Harper, sad is
always a good afternoon to your college and listeners. Hey, Beth,
I was listening to doctor Harper, and I'm going to
get back on the subject you were talking about, doctor Hopper.

Speaker 16 (01:00:58):
How hell rephrase that? Praise that question again when you
brought it up, the statement that you made it your intro.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Of his intro.

Speaker 16 (01:01:09):
Yes, yeah, when he said we don't need we need
people to validate us or something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
You're talking about the topic of the book, the topic
of the book yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Okay, Uh, black people need people who believe in black
people enough not to believe every bad thing to hear
about black people.

Speaker 15 (01:01:26):
Okay, Doctor, happened when you made that statement. I had
to I had to go back and start digging into
what that book. I thought that was something that you said,
but you said it from a book. But I'm not
taking on it. I would give it down one person
tell about me. And when it came down to me,
if they're gonna think anything, Doctor Harper, they're gonna think

(01:01:47):
whether it's positive or negative, whether they're a black person
or a white person, I just to me, I wouldn't
care because you're gonna have I have seen more black
derogatory things towards other blacks that I have seen white
towards black people. And the reason why I say that
because of the music that they have to date. It's

(01:02:09):
always something negative towards one another. It's even about killing,
about smoking, about sex, about this, and it's nothing really
basically positive in this hip hop music. So if you
listen to this music long enough, would you not believe
that what these young artists are saying may be true. Now,

(01:02:29):
you and I you know, having our sense of mind built,
and doctor Hopper, we.

Speaker 9 (01:02:33):
Know the difference.

Speaker 15 (01:02:33):
We could separate the two. But you got young people
out here reading themselves. Doctor Hopper, I have to.

Speaker 16 (01:02:39):
Ask this question, do we need a group or a
race of people to believe in us? To know the difference?
It seemed like a becommisant that, hey, this is just
fictitious words that have been said on a group of people.
We've seen how they did it to the Native Americans,
we see how they're doing it to the Hispanic So

(01:03:00):
we have seen what has went down for the longest.
Why should we care about if another person or group
or races how they feel about us. If you don't
feel good about yourself, well, the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Sad reality is I don't think that many of our
young people know anything about it. That what you're what
you're speaking up at this particular point. I think they
have not been educated by the school system nor by
their parents in regard to knowing this kind of history.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
So I think you bring up a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
The fact is, however, that that many many of these
young people nowadays, they're thin, skin they're thin. You know,
once once someone's when someone says something to them over
the over the the the the Internet, they get all up.
They get all upset. So they're they're easily influenced now
by the things that either upset you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Or make them happy, and they're not dealing with much reality.

Speaker 15 (01:03:50):
Okay, but doctor Horbin saying that I totally one percent
agree with you, But it's that's a cause to get
a race because you're asking of not you, but.

Speaker 16 (01:04:01):
The statement that you made. We're asking other people to
believe in the rights that we do. It seems like
you would like yourself. We see the rights that you do.
We don't need anybody to tell us about you doing
the right. We see the work that you put in.
But why should we need another group to validate us?

Speaker 9 (01:04:19):
But we know we're doing right?

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Well, I don't think we I don't think that we
need another group to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
I agree with you in terms of I can validate myself,
and I think that by my work people can either
validate me or basically say that they don't agree.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
And that's okay too. But I do think it's important
that that that a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Significant number of people are in agreement about what are
appropriate behaviors that we should be exhibiting, and we should
be exhibiting those kind of and I think we need
to have that validated as well as supported.

Speaker 15 (01:04:51):
I totally agree with your own and doctor Harkin, but
when you not say, in your opinion, a person is
going to believe or think or believe whatever they choose
to believe about a person or group or race or religion,
regardless whether they know the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Or not true truth, Okay? And I would hope that
that clear thinking people who are in our best interests
are the ones who are doing the influencing of those
who basically don't have enough sense to basically know the
difference between right and wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I would hope.

Speaker 15 (01:05:25):
Okay, when you said that, Doctor Hoskins, right, and I
leave you with the tibet I leave with the question
that I can listen to what I So, who is
in this particular particular moment that you brought up in
the statement is doing more damage and we're just going
to keep it right down the center doing more damage
to the black race in today's time, if you have

(01:05:50):
to look at it in our community, who is doing
the most harm to our communities? Isn't the White it's
the Hispanics, it's the Asian or.

Speaker 9 (01:06:00):
Isn't us all right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Prince thank you, Prince, doctor.

Speaker 15 (01:06:04):
Harper you okay, thank you, doctor. You'll have a beautiful black.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
You too.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
I think the individual that's doing the most damaged to
African American people is at this particular time the President
of the United States, who was in office at this
particular time, and I think his administration is doing as
well now on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
A local level.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
See, the sad reality is that when we start talking
about black people doing bad to black people, we we
we we find ourselves kind of only in a black community. See,
I don't go in the white community. And now if
I were to hang out in the white community, I
see all kinds of things happening there as well, Prince Charles.
But anytime I stay within the black community, I'm gonna
see bad things happening, because those things happen in those

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kinds of communities the same as they happen in white
community as well. What I'm getting at is that is
that I cannot only say that, I cannot say that
black people are doing the worst things to other black
people unless I have a comparison group that i've also
been in as well. Are are our people from Mexico,
you know, when they're in their own community, are they

(01:07:09):
also engaging in negative behaviors? What about the Polish people
when you go in their communities, the Japanese or Asian
people when you go in their communities. Unless I've been
in all of those different ethnic groups and basically been
basically been exposed to a variety of their behavior, I
cannot really make the statement that we are our own
worst enemy. I think that there are far enough other

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enemies out there that we can focus on.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
We are talking today, doctor Harper. When we come back
from this break, we will let you continue as we
talk this day, no BS, bad stats. Black people need
people who believe in black people enough not to believe
every bad thing they hear about black people.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
We're talking this day. Hold on, y'all will get to
you right here on w d i A the bead
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Speaker 7 (01:08:13):
You're listening to Tennessee Radio Hall of Famer Bev Johnson
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Speaker 7 (01:08:57):
You're listening to the Bev Johnson Show.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Bev Johnson, and we're going back to doctor Warren Harper
as he continues, no BS, bad stats, Black people need
people who believe in black people enough not to believe
every bad thing they hear about black people, Doctor Harper.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
The next chapter, I would like to discuss focuses on
the so called black male super predators and the crack
baby scare that never came about, with the exception of
horrific stories written by newspaper writers to sell papers, quack
so called scientific researchers, and anti black politicians who needed
to scare the hell out of the white people while

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ignoring the drugs being intentionally allowed by then President Ronald
Reagan to flood into the black community. So let's take
a look at this so called social scientist named John
de Laillo who popularized the whole idea of the black
male super predator, in which he said, quote on the
horizon are tens of thousands of severely morally impoverished, juvenile

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super press. They are perfectly capable of committing the most
heinous acts of physical violence for the most trivial reasons.
They fear neither the stigma of arrests nor the pain
of imprisonment. They live by the meanest code of the
meanest streets, a code that reinforces, rather than restrains their
violent hair trigger mentality in prison are out. The things

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that superpredators get by their criminal behavior, which is sex, drugs, money,
are their own immediate rewards. Nothing else matters to them.
So for as long as their youthful energies hold out,
they will do whatever comes naturally, which is to murder, rape,
rob assault, burglarize, deal, debtly drugs, and get high. He

(01:10:43):
specifically coined the term superpredators for black males.

Speaker 8 (01:10:48):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
On the contrary, according to doctor Tolson, black youth violence
during the time that this myth was and slander or
black males was made by doctor the number of BLA
blackmails in terms of the use of drugs and what
have you, had necessarily gone down to a certain extent.
But since the drugs were being flooded into community by

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Ronald Reagan, then basically you had this upsurge of drugs. However,
the research was flawed that he used, that this particular
doctor used in terms of making this particular claim. However,
by the time he admitted it, and he did go
back and admitted that his research was flawed because when
they did not have this flood of cracked babies, we
did not have this flood of these super predators. Then

(01:11:32):
he had to basically turn around and make a statement
of apology, but by then the damage was too great,
and the white American community have been terrified and traumatized
of being around any black youth. And as you can imagine,
this was the same situation for the myth of the
cracked babies that fill the airwaves and predicted that babies
exposed to crack and utero would be severely emotionally, mentally

(01:11:55):
and physically disabled, and that these babies, as they grow
up will present severe train on society and social services,
which as we know now was the result of flaud research,
and the most comprehensive research studies have found no evidence
of impairment beyond the problems associated with such exposure to
any substance, including alcohol in these babies. And so another

(01:12:18):
white theory of black so called pathology bites the dust,
but not after doing the damage that it was intended
to cause. Now, this book has eighteen chapters, of which
I have only presented three chapters. I leave the rest
of the listening audience to purchase the book and become
educated and become one of the black people who believe
in black people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Enough not to believe every bad thing they hear about
black people. I like to next go on to talk
about taking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
A look at the current president's ongoing destruction of our
democracy over the past three to four weeks. Let's start
off with a quote from Bertram Russell, a deceased British philosopher,
who wrote, quote, the whole problem with the world is
that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves,
and wires of people are so full of doubts unquote.

(01:13:06):
Sister Jeorry Reid, who was an African American political commentator
and former hosts of her own television program, has characterized
the current fellon in the Puzzle Palace as as person
in the past who has excuse me, the current president
who has attacked the press, incites political violence, hires family members,
cronies and loyalists, scapegoats minorities, threatens to jail his political opponents,

(01:13:31):
lies constantly, engages in blatant corruption, solicits bribery, and openly
praises dictators and autocrats. Robert Reich, authored Lawyer and Political Commentators,
said quote, the current president has trampled on the constitution,
issued so many illegal executive orders dismissed the military senior
staff in one fell swoop, weakened all checks and balances,

(01:13:52):
and taking control of social media. He went on to
say that combined this with Trump's attacks on higher education,
his gutting the funding of National Institutes of Health, which
provides a large portion of biomedical research, and the National
Science Foundation, which conducts engineering and computer research, and his
effective closure of the US AID Office, which underwrites research

(01:14:14):
and global diseases. Trump has also attacked freedom of speech
for university students and professors, and he supports misguided state
governor's attacks on teaching the truth in our schools about
American history of enslaving Africans and First Nations people. Wright
goes on to say that throughout history, tyrants have understood
that their major enemy is an educated citizen. Try let

(01:14:37):
me read that again. Tyrants have understood that their major
enemy is an educated citizen. Tree slaveholders prohibited enslaved people
from learning to read, and Nazis burned books. But Robert
Wright says that this cannot all be blamed on Trump
because these kinds of strings are pulled by a character

(01:14:57):
that I mentioned the last.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Time I was on the air, whose financially supported JD.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Vance rise to vice presidency whose name is Peter Thiel
thhi e L. He is a German American who put
fifteen million dollars on Vance's senatorial election in twenty twenty
two and who convinced Rump to appoint him as vice president. Teel,
who is a billionaire and co founder of PayPal, along
with Elon Musk, who was the CEO of PayPal. Now

(01:15:24):
keep in mind that Robert Tel's early business partner was
Elon Musk, and that Teel has gone on record stating
that quote, I no longer believe that freedom and democracy
are compatible. So if there is one takeaway from what
I've said so far today, it is that Rump's billionaire
boys club all agreed that your in my freedom is
not compatible with their definition of democracy. It is totally

(01:15:48):
against of the people, by the people, and for the people.
Brothers and sisters, You must understand that the Constitution did
not include a specific right to vote. Nowhere in the
text does it explicitly say that citizens have a right
to vote in elections. Instead, it left the determination of
who could vote to the individual states, and voting rights
were restricted to who white, male tax paying property owners.

(01:16:12):
And why because the writers of the Constitution, the so
called founding Fathers, but who should be known as the
fleeing felons, only wanted voting rights for those who were
formally educated, which were white tax paying landowners, because they
believed wholeheartedly that common white people were too dumb regarding
politics or any other field of study and would be

(01:16:33):
easily duped by someone such as Trump who praise on
and praise against poor, middle class and even wealthy whites
having the power to vote and to sustain democracy of.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
The people, by the people, and for the people.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Yes, the signers of the Constitution thought that average white
person was too dumb to vote, and since this dumb
white boy did not have an education, property or paying taxes,
they should not have the right or the power to
voice their opinion and support of how they want the
country to be run. The Constitution framers believe then, as

(01:17:06):
co President Musk and Trump and Peter Teelee believe now,
that freedom and democracy gives the average citizen power to
control them, or better stated, power to restrict what they
can extract, steal, blackmail, threaten, or take for ransom.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
The American voter of all other groups.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Lastly, Wright says that Trump wants university students to be
so intimidated that they won't demonstrate against him. Professors so
intimidated they won't criticize his policies in the classroom. Scientists
so intimidated they won't denounce him even privately. The media
is so intimidated they will refrain from reporting unfavorably about him.
And lawyers so intimidated they won't support political rivals or

(01:17:48):
litigate against him. I could go on and on about
what Joey Reid says, and what Rights says, and what
I say, but it's time to hear from the listening
audience as to what you have to say about Trump. Yes,
what do you have to say about Rump's considering giving
January sixth rioting white nationalist racist reparations and for having
been imprisoned due to their criminal behavior. You know, the

(01:18:10):
best way to produce a repeat of violent racist behavior
is to reinforce the violent racist behavior with money. He
the convicted felon in the Puzzle Palace, knows what he's doing,
and he's encouraging the white nationalists, the flueklux Klan, the
Proud Boys, the Nazis and all of the anti black,
anti brown, anti women, and anti LGBTQ people to be targeted, slandered,

(01:18:33):
or killed with the ultimate purpose of nicide, which is
the destruction of the black mind and further colonization of
our ways of behaving, along with white males regaining the
political and genicidal power over God's firstborn human beings. And
if that was not enough, then have you heard of
the latest executive order entitled quote Restoring Truth and Sanity

(01:18:53):
to American History unquote, which is filled with all out
lies about how the nation's history has been re written
by blacks and Latinos and women in the lgbt community
in an effort to undermine the so called remarkable achievements
of the United States with this quote unparalleled legacy of
advancing liberty and individual rights and human happiness. Now pause

(01:19:16):
right there, the so called unparalleled legal the so called
unparalleled legacy of advancing liberty, individual rights, and human happiness.
Is Trump speaking about white people and not Americans of color.
For the question is you see out of his f
in mind? This country, for over four hundred years, has
never engaged in advancing liberty or individual rights or happiness.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
For people of color.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Hell, we're still fighting for these rights today, and living
under a racist system of white nationalism surely has not
provided black and brown people with human happiness. This is
my point, Black and brown people, it is high time
that we all realize that this convicted felon in the
Puzzle Palace has officially authorize the war against us quietly

(01:20:03):
by not mentioning us by name, but we can see
the war that he is waging against us through the
executive orders that he is assigning, and that he is
by word indeed writing us out of American history and
replacing our history of enslavement with the history of a
fantasy world where there is peace, harmony, safety, love, and

(01:20:23):
religious purity. Doctor Jamar Tisby, who's a brother, said that
quote the purpose, the purpose is to stir feelings of
a fantastical, bygone era when the nation was at its best.
He goes on to say, quote, the United States history
is much easier to propagandize, to exploit when he creates
a past where everyone was white and all they did

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was right unquote. Now, what freethinking black researchers and writers
have been publicizing is what is called revisionist history. Because
revisionist history does not eliminate the lies, the enslavement, the
raping the lyne, the selling off of our children, the
Jim Crow laws, the showing of the birth of a
nation in the White House, the Red Summer, the Tulsa

(01:21:08):
Race massacre, and destruction of black wall streets across America.
It does not live out the vicious murder of Emmettill
by white creatures, the murder of MegaR Evers, three civil
rights activists all murdered, and the ongoing struggle for our
civil and civil rights in America. Yes, Trump has already
attacked black people by ordering state governors and superintendents of

(01:21:30):
local school districts to ban the teaching on black history
and the legacy of black African accomplishments which built America
since our forced arrival in this sixteenth century.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
And if schools do not ban the teaching.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Of Black history and the white atrocities inflicted on Black
and First Nations people, then they will lose government funding.
He has also attacked what can be taught at all
these schools. He has also attacked black and white impoverished
communities by taking away school lunches for the poor, while
ever sneak, working through his henchman Robert Musk, to steal

(01:22:04):
money from Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, tampering with and
trying to do away with Obamacare, along with disappearing of
black military heroes recognition at Arlington National Cemetery, and he
has called for the restoration of statues and monuments celebrating
the slaveholders and Confederate figures and replacing the true American

(01:22:25):
heroes what was called the great men of history, replacement
which translates to the great white men who shaped the
nation's founding, such as George Washington, who owned three hundred
and seventeen slaved Africans, Thomas Jefferson, who owned over six
hundred enslaved people, Abraham Lincoln, who never wanted to free
any enslaved persons and took up a fund to send

(01:22:47):
all enslaved people back to Africa, and Theodore Roosevelt, who
was a proponent of manifest destiny. Yes, turning back the
clock to the nineteenth century will allow him to implant
squarely in white American's brain computer myth and fantasy of
the good old days where the Niggers were happy with
one slice of watermelon, a Banjoe for dancing, a bottle

(01:23:07):
of homemade whiskey, a mess of pick feet, a good
whipping once a week. And when whites all across America
knew that black people were locked down and controlled by
their master, sadly we still have more than a man
or soul colored boot licking anti black black people who
are now more than ever starting to shake in their
boots out of fear that their fureral, their false messiah,

(01:23:30):
their white master, has forgotten, forsaken them with his lying promises.
But just remember what I said three weeks ago, and
that is you elected the devil, so expect hell to
follow and cruelty is the point. Lastly, for all the
maga idiots who are walking dead of the Republican Party,

(01:23:51):
take note of it. Fox News poll published two weeks
ago which found that fifty six percent of voters think
that the job the Trump administration is doing, supposedly identifying
and cutting waste for government spending, is quote poor or
only fair, and sixty five percent that they are extremely
or very concerned that not enough thought in planning has

(01:24:12):
gone into the government's spending cuts. And this is coming
from the major news supporter of Trump. But let me
quote again Bertram Russell, who said, quote the whole problem
with the world is that the fools and fanatics are
always so certain of themselves and wires are people so
full of doubt. Let us Black people be the wiser ones,

(01:24:33):
the wiser ones without doubt, the wiser ones who are
not afraid of anyone who attempts to erase our history
of achievements in America and throughout the entire world. Let
us be the wiser ones who are game enough to
know what types of trickery this is that is being
perpetrated against us, and fight against racial oppression, against tyranny,
against demagogery, against fascism, and against anyone who is trying

(01:24:56):
to harm us, destroy us, or disappear us. We're going
to win this fight, because we're going to fight to win.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
All right, doctor Harper. Wow, I hear what you're saying.
Wow wow wow wow.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
As I go back, I love it, says as I
go back to the title, no bs, bad statics. Black
people need people who believe in black people enough not
to believe every bad thing they hear about black people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
And when are we gonna do that?

Speaker 9 (01:25:27):
And and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
You know what, doctor Harper, When you talk about.

Speaker 5 (01:25:30):
Those those maga folks who believe in Trump, those folks
who voted for the black folks and even the white
folks and Hispanic folks. Now they're looking crazy, aren't they.
They're seeing something different.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Farmers are upset, Yes, they're elected officials are scared to
show their face in public.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
And the other thing about it is that is.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
That they have no These Republican people and persons in Congress,
these politicians, they have no backbone. No, as I've said
so many times, tis every one of the politicians has
narcissism in their hearts. They all want to be in
front of the public and basically acting like they're going
to take care of the public's interests. But see euro
up against a sick, perverted person now, and see with

(01:26:15):
all you all trying to be narcissistic in your own way.
Narcist don't like to give up their power to anybody else.
So at some point, all these politicians are going to
have to rebel against Trump. They have to because they
see how far he's taking the country off course. Now
when they rebel against him, he's going to come down
even harder on everyone because he's going to claim that

(01:26:35):
the Republicans have been have been brainwashed by the Democrats,
and the deep state has taken over the government again, etc.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Etc.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
If he may declare martial law on everybody. Yes, listen,
this person is so troubled that we need to all
find us a foxhole or some kind of a shelter
to go in for the next four years, because hell
is going to run on all of us, and on
particularly the ones are going to be so hurt. Are
gonna be all your brothers and sisters who really believed

(01:27:07):
in him?

Speaker 9 (01:27:08):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
One brother, who's on the line right now? Which is?
Which is?

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
I don't have time to address, but it's black conservative,
Black conservative. You said last time I was on the
air that you think that it's time for black people
to get reparations. Well, you know you've heard now who
wants to get reparations too. He wants to give him
to the white boys who went to jail. Now, keep
in mind, brother, white folks ain't never gave you nothing.

(01:27:33):
Why do you think the Republican Party is gonna give
black people five million dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Apiece? Wake up, brother and come over to our side again.
We forgive you. Come on home.

Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
And one last thing, doctor Harper. Before we get out
of here, we were Terry was here talking about tariffs and.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Cars because yesterday Trump said it it's it's.

Speaker 5 (01:27:53):
Liberation Day, and he's out on the White House lawn
and signed, has signed.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
All he doing is signing showing something.

Speaker 5 (01:27:59):
But as you all read your history, go back history
nineteen thirty thirty dot com for tell them what happened
with the tariffs nineteen thirty. That's beek I was prepared
to present that to nineteen thirty. You have these two
white guys that basically said, let's put heavy tariffs and
all these other countries. It failed significantly and led to

(01:28:21):
and increased the pain of the Great Depression. If already
did it back in the nineteen thirties and it didn't work,
Brothers and sisters, It's not gonna work now. It's only
designed to make other countries bow down and kiss the
ass of Donald Trump. That's what he wants because he
wants to maintain control. And once he controls Greenland and Canada,

(01:28:44):
he's gonna go out to the rest of the world
because see, a narcissist.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Cannot stop themselves. We can stop them.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Yeah, if we grow up and deal with him as
we would do with any other politician that is basically
office rocker, and that is get him out of office.

Speaker 5 (01:29:00):
Besap, Doctor Harper. As always, we appreciate you, brother. They
be waiting for you to come back. Doctor Warren Harper,
thank you so much today.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
I'd love it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
I love it, Doctor Warren Harper, our behavioral and political
health consultant, Doctor Harper, will wait for the next time
you're here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Thank you all right. As always, I want to thank
you callers.

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
I want to thank you listeners for joining us this
day on the BEB Johnson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
We do, we really do appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (01:29:37):
So until tomorrow, please be safe, keep a cool head, y'all,
don't let anyone steal your joy. Until tomorrow, I'm BEB Johnson,
and y'all keep the faith.

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