When I Heard This - Podcast

When I Heard This - Podcast

What happens when a comedian asks a pastor whatever he wants?? 😮 In the "When I Heard This" podcast, comedian Nate Robinsoff asks Pastor Joseph Tillman, M.Div. whatever questions he can think of about church in America, the Bible, Christianity, cults, sex, and well really anything! He doesn't hold much back 🤣. https://www.youtube.com/@wheniheardthispodcast?sub_confirmation=1

Episodes

Episode 193 - Speaking In Tongues Didn't End In Acts

July 27, 2026 • 61 mins
Can Christians still speak in tongues today, or did that end with the Book of Acts? Few topics create more debate in church culture than speaking in tongues. Some Christians believe the gift ended with the apostles, while others believe it's still active today. So where did that idea come from, and what does the Bible actually say? In this episode, Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman continue their series on speaking in tongues by diggin...
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Episode 192 - Speaking In Tongues Isn't What Everyone Thinks

July 20, 2026 • 57 mins
What if everything you've been told about speaking in tongues is missing part of the story? For some churches, it's a normal part of faith. For others, it's something that supposedly ended with the apostles. Somewhere in the middle is everyone who's quietly wondering if they've misunderstood the whole thing. In this first episode of a new series, Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman tackle one of Christianity's most debated topics by star...
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Episode 191 - Flat Earth Has Entered The Bible Chat

July 13, 2026 • 68 mins
Is flat earth actually in the Bible, or did the internet decide it was? Somehow, flat earth theory has made its way into Christian conversations, and now it’s being treated like a theological issue. So where did it come from? Is there actually biblical support for it, or are a handful of verses being asked to do a lot of heavy lifting? In this episode, Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman dig into the history of the flat earth movem...
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Episode 190 - Marriage Isn’t Finished After “I Do”

July 6, 2026 • 56 mins
What actually keeps a marriage together after the wedding? And why does it seem like every Christian has a different answer? This is the final episode in our seven-part series on marriage, and we’re ending where most of the debates begin. Does the government need to recognize your marriage for God to? Are vow renewals or other rituals actually necessary? What makes a marriage “good,” and does God rank marriages t...
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Episode 189 - Marriage Is Where Everyone Draws A Different Line

June 29, 2026 • 58 mins
Where exactly is the line… and who decided it was there? One of the fastest ways to start an argument in church is to ask where the boundaries of marriage actually are. Somehow everyone agrees marriage matters, but not everyone agrees on what that means. In this episode, Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman tackle some of the most uncomfortable questions in the entire marriage series. What does the Bible say about swinging? Polyamo...
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Episode 188 - Marriage Is Losing The PR Battle

June 23, 2026 • 69 mins
Why does marriage seem to have worse PR than ever? For something that most people still say they want, marriage spends a lot of time getting blamed for everything. It’s too restrictive. It’s outdated. It gets in the way of personal freedom. It gets in the way of God. Somehow it manages to be accused of doing all of it at once. In this episode, we dig into the idea that marriage is “the joining of two families&rd...
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Episode 187 - Marriage Is Weirdly Hard To Define

June 15, 2026 • 56 mins
Everybody talks about marriage like everyone knows what it is. Then somebody asks what actually makes two people married, and suddenly the room gets very quiet. In this episode, Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman continue their series on marriage by tackling the surprisingly difficult question of what Christians actually mean when they talk about marriage. What steps are required? Is marriage primarily a church thing, a government thing...
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Episode 186 - Marriage Is Having An Identity Crisis

June 8, 2026 • 67 mins
What if the church has spent thousands of years talking about marriage... and we're still arguing over what it actually is? This week, the conversation gets even weirder. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman dive into one of Christianity's biggest identity crises: marriage. Is it a sacrament? A covenant? A contract? Why did Jesus never get married if marriage is supposed to be central to the Christian life? And why does the entire conversa...
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Episode 185 - Marriage Lore Gets Unhinged Fast

June 1, 2026 • 55 mins
Why does marriage in the Bible get weird so fast? The moment you start reading the Old Testament, you're hit with questions nobody seems eager to answer. Cousins marrying cousins. Multiple wives. Concubines. Arranged marriages. People getting married way younger than anyone is comfortable with today. And somehow livestock keeps showing up in the conversation. In this episode, we continue our series on marriage by tackling some of...
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Episode 184 - Marriage Was Never Just About Marriage

May 25, 2026 • 66 mins
What if marriage was never primarily about marriage? Most people have opinions about marriage. Fewer people can explain what the Bible actually says it is. Somehow we've all inherited strong takes, relationship advice, and enough wedding industry content to last several lifetimes, but the foundational questions often get skipped. In this first episode of a new series, Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman start at the beginning and ask the...
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Episode 183 - Faith and Works Ended With Trust Issues

May 18, 2026 • 54 mins
At some point this whole faith vs works conversation starts sounding like a group project where nobody knows how grading works. Can you get into heaven with faith but no works? Works but no faith? Are some churches accidentally turning Christianity into spiritual performance reviews? And how do you know your faith is actually faith and not just anxiety wearing Bible verses as camouflage? In the fifth and final episode of this ser...
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Episode 182 - Faith and Works Isn’t Graded on Effort

May 11, 2026 • 59 mins
At what point does “doing good works” start sounding like a performance review nobody asked for? Episode 182 continues the ongoing discussion about faith and works according to scripture, except this time the conversation gets painfully close to the way people actually think about effort, productivity, church culture, and whether Christians secretly believe God is grading participation with a clipboard somewhere. Nate...
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Episode 181 - Doing “Good” Isn’t That Simple

May 4, 2026 • 54 mins
If “doing good” is the goal… why does nobody agree on what that actually means? This episode takes the whole faith vs works conversation and makes it slightly more uncomfortable. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman dig into what scripture says about doing good, and why it’s not as clean or checklist-based as people want it to be. Is faith enough? Do your actions prove something? Or are we all just trying to revers...
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Episode 180 - Faith Isn’t Just Something You “Have”

April 27, 2026 • 62 mins
So… is faith something you have, or something you’re actually doing? Because those are two very different conversations. This episode keeps pushing past the surface-level “have faith” idea and starts asking what that even means according to scripture. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman get into how faith actually works, how you get it, and what you’re supposed to have faith in beyond just saying the word. ...
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Episode 179 – Faith and Works Isn’t What People Think

April 20, 2026 • 56 mins
So… does anyone actually agree on what “faith and works” even means, or are we all just arguing using the same words differently? Because the second you ask basic questions, things get weird fast. This episode starts breaking down the whole faith vs works conversation from the ground level. Not the usual talking points, but the actual definitions. What is faith, what counts as works, and where the Bible even ta...
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Episode 178 – We Broke War Ethics

April 13, 2026 • 57 mins
So… how exactly does God feel about war… and who’s actually responsible when it all goes wrong? This one wraps up the Christian war ethics conversation and yeah, it gets messy fast. They dig into whether wars of choice are ever justified, what scripture actually says about leadership and violence, and whether “good reasons” still count once everything spirals. Then it keeps going. Civilian fallout,...
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Episode 177 – Christian War Ethics Break Down

March 23, 2026 • 71 mins
Is there such a thing as a just war, or do Christians start sweating the second the questions get too specific? In Episode 177 of When I Heard This, Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman keep the war conversation going and get into the mess people usually try to dodge. This episode looks at Christian war ethics, what scripture says about war, and whether intention, method, or outcome matters most when people try to justify violence. They t...
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Episode 176 – The War Debate Starts in the Bible

March 16, 2026 • 59 mins
What happens when you actually read the Bible passages about war… instead of quietly skipping them? Because once those stories show up, the conversation about faith, violence, and responsibility gets a lot more complicated. This episode kicks off a larger discussion about Christian views on war and what Scripture actually says about it. Not the polished answers people tend to repeat, but the uncomfortable questions that sh...
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Episode 175 – Lent Is Not Just Giving Up Chocolate

March 2, 2026 • 60 mins
Is Lent actually a historic Christian practice… or did we just turn it into a 40 day sugar detox? In this episode, the guys unpack what Lent really is, what it means, and why Christians have observed it for centuries. They talk about the church calendar, fasting, repentance, spiritual discipline, and why the number 40 keeps showing up in Scripture. It is less about chocolate and more about formation. They also get honest a...
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Episode 174 – Universalism and the Disney Ending Problem

February 23, 2026 • 70 mins
What if everyone gets saved in the end… and that is actually the problem? In this second and final conversation on universalism, we dig into the “Disney ending” version of theology. The idea sounds comforting. No eternal consequences. No final separation. Everyone reconciled. Cue the emotional music. But what does that do to justice, holiness, leadership, and the actual claims of historic Christianity? We talk ...
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