123 - Live at Vicar Street in Dublin

Karen and Georgia cover the Stoneybatter Strangler and Colin Whelan.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:43):
What's up Dublin.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
It sounded like you were saying something else than what's
up Dublin, just like also, I was.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Going to kick off my own thing the night I
start speaking Gaelic to everybody. Ah, you didn't know? This
is so cool. This is the first show of our
big tour. Our Europeans are uh. I wish you are
not the UK, and I know that we're not. We're

(01:15):
not nothing to do with it. I know that fucking
totally separate place. We knew it. We all knew it.
We knew it.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Whoever was hosting on my Instagram yesterday was fucking lying.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Someone broke into your Instagram and started posting like line
rumors that you think the Ireland's in the UK.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
That's so embarrassing. Can I do? I have to say it? Fire?
Stevens out he's not here.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
No, he's not in his usual spot. No, that means no, listen,
the Cats aren't going to take.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Care of themselves. That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Well, and also, there's no fucking way we're paying for
Steven's ticket to Europe. Fuck you, Laura, he knows.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh man, no, sorry, we haven't done a live show
in a while.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
This is insanely exciting and it really is. Also, I
don't even know what my sleep pattern is right now
because I stayed up till five in the morning last
night and then woke up at like.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Almost one pm, and then I was twenty minutes later
I texted you. You text me you just woke up.
Twenty minutes later I was like, I just woke up.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I meant you. We don't know where we're at. Crazy guys,
it's a whole day.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
This is interesting, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
The last time we did a show was in Los Angeles,
where we live, so it's all our friends you live
there too.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Interesting is Los Angeles is a part of the UK,
and that's the thing. It seems like a lot of
people and understand. So that's our message on the European
tour is to really get the word about LA Yeah,
it's being connected to We started to go fund me
supportant work.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
It is.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh can you talk about all the people coming to
your hotel room?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Just what we found out, Well.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
We stayed indoors because you know, when we go on
trips like this, big tours where we have shows right
in a row every single day, right in a row.
We like to save up all the work we're supposed
to do and then just do it at the hotel,
like the day before the panic.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's really fun. It's best for storytelling.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, just to create the pressure. So well, the first
sixpence I had was, I don't know if you guys
are aware, but it's quite hot here in Dublin today.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Thanks for thanks for the weather, you guys.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I brought all kinds of cashmere sweaters and layers and
rain gear.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I was ready to look like fucking Paddington Bear and
instead it's like on the bunk. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
So when I got into my hotel room, it was
I don't know how you guys do it.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Fourteen degrees whatever the fuck however you're doing it higher,
it's hotter. I was like to nineteen ninety.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
But so I'm just standing there and I think, you
know hotel thermostats are. They're just a plastic thing on
the wall that they give you to press so make
you feel like you have control over.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Your environment, which you do not.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
So I stood there pressing and press saying where I
was like, I'm just too this is too hot and
I can't just sit in a hot room with jet lag,
and so I called down. I was like, sorry, can
somebody come up here and fix this thermostat?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
And they're like, well, send someone.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I love to fix it, because it's not it's broken.
It's totally broken.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
It's not me.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I did the same thing. It's nice, it's broken, yeah,
fix it.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Not user error at all, so quick, pretty soon after
someone knocks the door.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I opened the door.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
It looks like a younger hotter mma Gerard Butler.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I was like, what what?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I have no relatives that look like you. What the
fuck is going on?

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I was not ready A bonus is that you?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
It was just when you got there, So like if
they had come today, like all your shit, Like my
whole room is a fucking pig side by, like you know,
twenty four hours after I'm in there.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, no I was. I looked very tidy.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well, my things look very tidy, but I clearly have
been traveling for twelve hours. So I was kind of
like wh I tried to turn to the side, you know, like,
come on in sex, suck, suck, and he of course
goes over to the fucking third set and he presses
one button and it kicks on immediately. I was just like, fine,

(05:42):
it was a trick to get you in here. Fine,
you might as well stay. But this was my favorite,
and I've never heard this slang before. When he went
to leave, he goes, if there's any other drama, just
call me.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Up, and I was just like, I.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Wasn't being dramatic. It was really hot. It's really fucking hot.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Fair, I get it.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
But then I turned the TV on and I kind
of couldn't make it go. I'm like, I should fucking
call that guy. TV's totally dramatic, drunk, dramaticing me.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, that's it. You're a pre and tur kickoff. Hey
what are you wearing? She's already looking at the notes.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
What do we what the well, I'm sweating. Here's the problem.
I'm sweating, and I forgot to bring deodorant on this
trip with me, so I'm wearing Vince's deodorant. So I'm
gonna smell like a fucking dude.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh yeah, that smells like going to a dance, Like
dancing with a guy that's in junior high.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, the last time we did that some kind of nerve.
It's been a while, but I miss it. I miss it. Terribly.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's kind of better than mine though, because it's like
clear and stuff, so I'm not getting like those you know,
can't have everything better.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
You're so obsessed with going to Boots and getting some
kind of like uh.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Oh, Boots, I can't. That was such a weird.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Just yelling Boots back at us and in a way
that we can't tell if you like it or you
fucking hate it.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
You're like, yes, Boots, Boots, Yeah, don't go there.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Somehow we're staying the word the b O O T
S word wrong.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Boots.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
You know, she doesn't know, nobody knows, nobody knows.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
We're not mispronouncing fucking boots that.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I know that I know. You know mad already the
show just started here, Uh Boots.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Alright, you were going to pick one person to be
the translator.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Oh yes, that's right. Is there anybody that's from Dublin
that's sitting near the front.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I think they look okay, okay, are.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
You suspicious in any way?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
We're not gonna make fun of you. What's your name?
It's Emily. So as the show goes Thanks, Lightning guy.
As the show goes on.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
When we mispronounce things, or we don't know what we're
talking about, or we say something we're totally wrong. Emily,
you just throw a hand up, would you please, and
we'll come and consult with you.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Okay, I think we didn't need to do this every show.
They already she already has her hand up. Man, she's
gonna get so tired. Her arm's gonna get carpal tunnel.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Sister, it's not Alick, it's Gaelic.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Gaelic. I fucking said Gaelic. Oh you know what you're out?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
You're both at Oh that's sister Ship. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
What's your name?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Please, louisease do you think that I said Gaelic or Gallic?
I thought he said Gaelic, Emily's sister, I said Gaelic.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh, Ship's escorted out, please.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Immediately kicked out of the show you've been waiting to see. Sorry, wait,
tell me your name again. It's Louise graz Yeah, one
of us.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well, I want to go to a store and buy
a bunch of shit, basically is what we're trying to say.
If it's store named boots Pennies, it's gonna be pennies.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Oh you okay, JC Pennies Pennies is better than boots.
Oh Man, Pennies is this? Louise says, Pennies is good Emily.
So that's what we're going with.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
We were I feel horrible right now because we were
at we were at a bar that's for tourists last night,
which you didn't know until we were there. It's the
oldest barn, you know, praising whole world. Yeah, it's wonderful.
Oh and it was great, and but we heard the
loudest American person at the bar and we were just like,
because she's here right now, I'm telling you, don't say

(10:02):
where she's from.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
It was, I was, it's a girl.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Like we get seated and we're eating, and then all
this sudden we He're like and.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I turned to Vincent George. I was like, is she
a fucking opera singer? Her voice is filling this room.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
But it was like, I actually don't really, I mean,
I'm actually here.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
From whatever town. Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
I'm like, so amazing. You have to scream at the
top of your lungs.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
And she's telling this dude who clearly has no fucking interest.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
In it, like about her flight and.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
About like no one cares how long it took you
to get anywhere.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Just FYI.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, if you're gonna be boring, please whisper. That's Americans. Americans,
We're not listened.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Because a whisper for us is like a whisness is
a whisper for us.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, whispering whispering for everybody else's or is normal talking? Yeah,
yeah for whispering for us that it's normal talking for
the rest of the world.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
We also there's also someone here either tonight or we'll
be here tomorrow night. Who When we went through, uh,
we got her customs Oh shit, it was he was
like he was this great little guy and he was
a little guy.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
He wasn't little. Fine, you have a normal that's a
normal guy. Cute cute fellow.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Uh, And he was like, you know, what are you here?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
You doing in your accent? I can't don't make me
do the accent in front of him. I think people
we have the accent. I think it's good.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
But I also told her that she can't do it
unless she also is fake drunk.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
But I can't accuse the customs guy being faced a
work that's dangerous government ship. But he basically said, uh,
what's the purpose of your visit.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Something like that. How's that?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
And then we were like, where are you here for?
Because it's so hard to tell people like we're here
for a show. We're doing, comedy show.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
We're doing.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
You don't want to be You don't want to tell
a guy who's like letting us in the country or
not that we're doing a murder thing.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, well, turns out we love murder, and so we've
come to your country.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
To visit murder.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
We've just been studying your murders here, just interested.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
In how you kill and where you kill. Yeah, not
really why, but so we just said that we're here
to do a live podcast and then he said what's
the name of it? And Georgia said, my favorite murder
and he goes, all right, I heard all about it.
There's a an American last came through your own Friday

(12:31):
and she told me all about it.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
She was insane. See can you talk about murder?

Speaker 3 (12:41):
So if she's just doing an impression of my grandmother,
I don't that's all.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I don't know how I mean, he found out her
name and I forgot it. If you can be if
you can believe it. But you know, we thank you
for that.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
There are people just on the ground explaining to strangers
what they're doing and how they're doing it.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
With us Karen invited them to the show.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
She's clearly not here. She'd be screaming at this point,
I think, so are you here? No, that's no really No.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
That sounded like a cat just got murdered in the
back of it.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Let's meet that girl.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Come up here and fucking explain what he looked like
right now, see she's telling the truth, and then.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Kick her out or she's wrong. No, I would never
do that.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
So then we went outside the airport and we got
a cab and uh, this guy was like out of
Irish Central casting of like a gruff Irish cab driver.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
M hum.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
He had no interest in us at all.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
He was just trying to get his shit out of
the airport area, I think.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
And yeah, yelled at a guy.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Who was like crossing too slowly in front of us,
and I was like, yes, I like this guy.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yes, he's like yelled out the windows, like out the
open window, go slower.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Go slower, yell sarcasm. That's how you know you're in Ireland.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
It wasn't rage based, it was pure sarcasm.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
I actually Georgia got into the back seat.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Vince went to get in the back seat, so I
was like, oh, I'll get in the front seat. So
she locked around went to get into the driver's side.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
We were so shocked by that steering wheel.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I was like, what kind of cars get Is this
a trainer car where you learn how to drive.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
A cab or something. See, we drive on the.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Other side, you guys, that's the explanation.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
So different.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
And of course I was immediately so embarrassed and turned
around and said sorry, and he goes, I don't mind,
and then got in again. A joke that comes off
as anger and rage, but you're just like, oh, but
you're kidding. I was like trying to explain to Georgia,
like that's why I am the way I am.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I was raised. I get it a little. I get
it right. Yeah, there's a gruff love to everything.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
It's kind of a like holding back watching you, judging you,
loving you.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh right, that's how you do it. I get it.
I think I get you a little more now.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
And then it's like, well, when you're drunk and be
like I want to tell you a secret, it's like
I actually really like you, even though I.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Don't, right, I don't.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
It's not we don't act all nice because that's lame.
We act like people bug you until you figure out
whether or not they have a sense.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Of humor, and then you like them.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, or at least that's me, And that's how me
and the cab driver do it.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I don't know if that's it's a generalization.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't know if that sounds like she's totally wrong
and she's calling us assholes the same time.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
That's how we kick off the show. Oh, by the way,
this is my favorite murder. Thank you. That's Karen Gagarrett.
That's Georgia Hart. Start the bland. God bless you, God
bless you, God bless you.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh tell them about your your plunging neckline.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I forgot my slip. So usually we usually we don't
bring the girls out like this. It's not my style.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Usually a two persons, but but now we're a quartet.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I just figured twenty eighteen, we're gonna we're gonna have
the girls start earning their keep, and really, you know,
a free ride for so long, right tit's out in
twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I am the opposite kind of person, and I took
my my my like black bra that I brought along
special for a special show the occasion, and when we
were on the plane, I did the thing. I took
it off because I'm like, I wear to the like
the uh what is it called airport just to be
like I'm not I'm not horrible, Like you can serve
me stuff and I'm not the worst.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
This is what society wants right now at the airport, like.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Just to be glad I'm not wearing sweats.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
So I take it off in the plane boo boop,
and like sit on it. And then I'm like, I'll
get it later that I forgot to get it later.
So there's got a nice thirty four b black non
underlying bra on some British air playing.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
If you want it, it's yours. That's a freebie for
the next person.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
People will be like, oh, that's just a song that
someone snapped in half.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
But that's the point is that's why I'm wearing a
white bran.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
I apologize. It's tacky as shiit. My mom would be
so pissed off at me. Georgia. It's a very day
class a. Yeah, but it doesn't matter because we're not
in the UK. You know how those UK are.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, we don't care here exactly. And when I go
to Pennies, I'll get a bra I can do that
fucking pandering, pandering, pandering, saying words we don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
What they mean, so you will cheer for us. Yeah
the best.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Uh yeah, Steven's not here, as we said, just to
bring it down right, Okay, now we can.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Okay, he got that. Let's talk about how really there
you go, Stephen.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Everyone misses you.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
No, he's he's being very sweet and sending lots of
photos of cats, like close up, so in a way
that I don't. I think I'm too old to understand.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
What if when you come.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Back from this trip the note the cats have somehow
written you a note that's like, Steven's too intense for us.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
We don't we can't be cats sat by him anymore.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
We know that you think your dad hates cats. We
like that he hates cats. He leaves us the fuck alone.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
We need we're standoffish. We want them to be standoffish. Yeah,
Steven's like.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
And then but then he did a thing. Oh he's good.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
He fucking did a thing where like last night he
was editing a minnisod for this week, and he wrote like,
oh you, Elvis heard your voice and came over and like,
Elvis is right there listening to my voice, which isn't true.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
No, he's not. He's a cat.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
You just don't care.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
But that's what I did. Oh my god, my baby.
You know, but I know I'm not fucking stupid.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Like he's like, I'm really rubbing off on you.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
It's really true. He was like, yeah, so that's not true,
because it really is true.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
At this point, by the time we're done recording at
George's apartment, it's almost like he knows that.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
In like two hours or an hour and a half
have gone by, he's like.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Wrap it the fuck up, because he comes and sits
on her lap, and the second she says, Elvios, you
want to go, he's.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Like wow, like he knows, he knows it.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
When we're like toning it down and we're like, all right,
this has gone on pretty long.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
He's like sitting on Yeah, he comes up.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, he knows because he's I know, he's a cap
and he's really smart, like Siamese are really smart, and
he's just he's so handsome.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
I would like to say I was here in I
think it was two thousand and one.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
I came to visit just for a vacation.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
And this is just a fun story that I remembered
my friend and I, ohhead my friend, and I thank
you and take my time. Could I get a spotlight?
My friend and I got into a rental car and
I just fall backwards and die, what a way to go?

Speaker 1 (20:01):
We got a.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Rental car and I was the only one that had
the guts to drive it. It was a fucking stick
shift and we're driving on the wrong side of the road,
and we just decided we'd like had a map. This
was like pre you know, modern life.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
So we had a paper map. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
They're just like, let's just drive up one of these highways.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
It's got a letter in a number. See where we go,
and let's see what happens. Let's just play up by ear.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
We went as far up the west coast as we
could and but like we ended up getting out of
the car. I don't know how we found this. I
think it was like, I don't know. We we basically
went up to a fence. We opened it and closed it.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I don't think you're.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Supposed to do that well, and we walked over this
hill and it was right. We were on the coast right,
so we walked right down to the edge of the world,
to the edge of this island, and We're like, holy fuck.
And it was like an insanely I drop. It was
you know, shit, like several stories.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
We sat on the edge of it with our feet
over the side, and we're like, this is amazing. And
then this like storm rolls in so we can see
the clouds coming like it was unbelievable or just sitting
here like this is amazing whatever. So before it gets
close to us and starts raining, we got up and
we walked.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I'm worried about it. I'm sitting here like, oh, is
she gonna be up the cliff?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
It was like fucking twenty years ago, and I'm worried.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Oh, And then I take my leg off. That's the day.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Oh my god, she's been saving it this whole time.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I had to save it for Dublin now. But we
get up and we leave.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
And we go to the we check into like whatever
hotel we find in the little city that's near there.
And when we check in, the guy at the counter says, oh,
you should go check out the cliffs, and he goes,
but be careful, don't go near the side.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
And the tourists die up there all the time. They
get blown right off the side all the time.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
We fucking went and sat no, like literally swung our
leg and we're like, this is such a great vacation, and.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Like we're both just went all white. We're like, sounds good. Yeah,
we won't.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
We won't do that at all. This is why I
have anxiety. To save my life. Yes, say I save lives.
She can be sick because I've never sweated so much
of my funews.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Let's sit down, look at these.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
These are good just kind of These chairs are from
a disco, aren't they?

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Like, these are legit comedy club chairs. There we go.
It goes down a little. Oh okay, there we go.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Hmmm, don't worry to shave my legs, which is great
because you guys are so close. But I am sweating confusely.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's summertime. It's not q and A. Oh my god,
she gots yodorant. She has theodorant? Are you serious? It's yours?
She just found it on the ground. I think fucking
brute it's brutes happening. Oh she's putting it on.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Thank you, Wow, Darryl, how come you bring a deorder
it to comedy show?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
What did you find on the ground? It's yours? Thank
you for moments like this, whoa you don't no, I
never did that? And a quick.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Thank you so much, thank you, the beautiful Darren gulfs
and flames.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Oh shit, Karen, do.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
You have any head bandages because I'm gonna eat those later.
This is okay, and now it really smells like a
seventh grade.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's strong. It's strong, but it's not sweating. It's just
staying in my body and talxing me good instead of
detoxing me.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
You know, that's what we want. That's what we want.
It's probably at my water. Let's have us it all right.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
We didn't decide how who's going to go first, right, yeah,
because we're now we're all off. We recorded like four
episodes before we left to cover us.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
We're off then and then we usually have photos and
Stevens like put them in order and so we but
we thought it'd be better to be more intimate and
not have photos.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Guys, you don't need photos. That's why you're clapping. You
don't know why you're clapping? Could I hate photos? I
can't see that great anyway, I can't see so good?
Do you want to go first? You want me to
go first?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
We usually were going to decide based on whose murder
would be better to end on.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Less of a bummer? Is how recent is yours? Two
thousand and one? I think you should go first.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Okay, this is a true crime, oh slash comedy podcast,
so that can be a little delicate.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, it's a it's a conversation.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
We talk about heavy shit, but sometimes we're lighthearted about it.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
If that's going to bother you, you should get the
fuck out.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
But Inina, I'd also like to say that those of
you who did wandering off the street thinking that this
wasn't gonna be like this, because my name is George
on the ticket and you thought that maybe there'd be
at least one man up here, you know, taking care
of shit you've been missing. Born, get the fuck out
of here. My name is Georgia.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
What if there's like there's somebody in the audience's like
I was guaranteed a man would be on stage, what
are they gonna do?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
They had no guidance or leadership.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Okay, you're fucking asking for it to cool rotation. Okay,
so mine, Yeah, let's good calling. Ending on the later
one okay, okay, this is about the fucking asshole Colin Wheeland.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Oh okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
So Colin Wheelan, he first meets nineteen year old Mary.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Go in gow Go hold on, Louise Goff, thank you.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Sorry, we don't know how to read in America or
do you any research? Apparently watch one? Okay goff in
nineteen ninety three. So Mary is working at a pub
called the Huntsman Inn. She's this lovely young lady. She
was born in nineteen seventy three. She's the only girl
of six.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Oh shit, and.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
She's the second to youngest. So these fucking dudes or
her brothers adore her. She's like the light of the family.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Colin.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
He is born in seventy one. He's born into like
a nice middle class family from Gore's, Gormanstown, Gormanston, Corminston.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
She doesn't even know what you're talking.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
About, doesn't know, Karen, you say that what Gorman's town, Really,
it's never what you think it's.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
You're always like, it's hass to have some weird fucking
sound in the middle of it, because everyone yells at us,
and then it just looks like.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
We have PTSD.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
We have pronunciation PTSD. We have been verbally assaulted by
entire cities because we didn't say their.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Fucking local town right.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
All across America, people have screamed and screamed at us,
which started our We began a crusade. And it's called
spell it like you say it, and we're you guys
did to please?

Speaker 1 (27:34):
All right? Okay? Uh so here we go.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yes, so Collins from a better suburb of Dublin. He
is a computer analyst with a background in it. He
gets this well paid bank job with a banking giant,
Irish permanent.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well, you guys work there. They love it.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
This is there at compir yearly conference tonight.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Oh you guys on a holiday this weekend?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
We hear.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, you guys are.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Way less shit faced than I would have expected for
a bank holiday. And I appreciate I want to say,
we appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
I just love that week I kept seeing commercials for
like furniture stores, but it was like bank holiday sale
where it's like, what the fuck is this bank holiday?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Situation. It's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah. So he works there for like nine years. He's
big time and uh so. Mary's brothers describe her as beautiful, funny, intelligent,
easy going and to a straight talking girl.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
And Colin is her first boyfriend, which we.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
All fucking know is except for the ones who married them.
And they're here with them tonight. Good cover, good cover,
thank you, thank you, well done, thank you. There's always
some girls like I know, but I got a good one.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
You're like, all right, all right, keep it fine.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
So she's from Style Mullen stem Allen.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Close enough, let Louise say it. Louise, she doesn't know. Hi,
you can't do it. We're back family here. What do
you call it?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
No, they're claiming that you want to see it. There's
too many well here all night.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Thanks. Spelling. Oh oh, they're saying.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
I thought they were pronouncing the word, so I said spelling,
but they're like, spell.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
It, oh, spell the word.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Oh it's that city spelling over and on the east side.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
I'm not I'm not saying any more places. Spell the
word and they'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Okay, I'm gonna because they asked the same thing. And
then we oh, I see and then we attacked. Louis
s t A m U.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
L L E N.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
And but if everybody says at the same time, it
sounds like nothing.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Do you understand it should only be Louise. It's your
big chance.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Louise shout it out.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yes, we might have to get you your own. Mike,
give her that deodorant. Past the deodorant, Luise.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
So Colin becomes Mary's very first boyfriend and her mother
they liked Colin, but her mother said that she thought
that Mary loved too much, loved him too much.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
In August nineteen seventy started dating in Where Was I
ninety did ninety three? In August of ninety seven, Colin
buys a house and balbriggan.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, that's right, feel it, love it and get inside.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I'm doing it. It's happening.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Your victory is real if you just keep failing. When
you get one little victory, people are like, good job,
you know. In ninety eight they get engaged and they
move in together. So Mary's mother, Marie has misgive givings,
of course, about Colin and the control that he ex
ordered her, saying that he insisted she would dress down

(31:03):
and not be like revealing. But meanwhile he was fucking
checking out girls, all the ladies all the time.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
You know he would not approve of this dress, absolutely not. Man,
it is a bit nuts.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Then so Mary, she's twenty seven now and she's planning
their September two thousand wedding. Meanwhile, he Colin makes a
visit to their financial planner secretly, and he doubles their
life insurance policy so that the surviving partner would get
four hundred thousand euros.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Of your money euros.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
You know what your money is called, and so do we,
so we don't even have to say it.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's a bank holiday. Let's not stop talking about money.
You guys are so greedy.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
We don't want to talk about I'm so super visual
that you need to hear the name of what your
money's called.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
So it would get four hundred thousand if one of
them died within ten years of marriage, which seems like
it shouldn't be a thing to be like betting on
how long they'll live in a marriage shouldn't be allowed. No,
it's like, but if you die within five years, you'll
get this. This is not a fucking contest. In September
two thousand after dating for seven years. Excuse me, they're married.

(32:21):
Apparently allergies can come to Dublin with you. I mean
your carry on da da da da da. They're after
our dating seven years, they're married and at this point
Mary's working in a solicitor's office in swords. Swords Seriously,
what the fuck? I tried to put a spin on it.
Thank you. You guys are so supportive, okay, and she's

(32:44):
of course highly regarded as by colleagues because fucking everything sucks.
So Colin, which is the name of my ex fiance,
so of course I fucking hate this guy even more.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Stupid name. I love to hear the subtext of these stories.
They're just filled with.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Rage, gutting my own bullshit into this, like that I
should take out in therapy instead of on stage.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I think this is therapy.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I mean, so that means I pay you guys one
hundred and fifty dollars at the end of US one.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Hundred and fifty l with two lines in it.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
So, after just four months of marriage, Colin starts an
online relationship with a woman named Helen Is who lives
in Wales and he that's in the UK.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
He says to her that he.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Starts bragging about how he's about to get four hundred
euros because.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
His wife had died in am it is, let's consult
Louise pounds.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
That's what I did not say that. Well, I didn't
mean that. Thank you for catching that. Thank you four
hundred thousand. I do just a lot more.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
I feel like I need to warn you now, Louis.
You are absolutely going to be attacked at some point.
But it's very vulnerable to have to go to you
for every fucking word and.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Say we're gonna send you to therapy after this.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
We understand four hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
So he was bragging to this woman Helen, who has
no fucking clue what's going on.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
That.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, his wife had died in a car accident years earlier,
so he's going to get that money. And he made
up a nickname for her to call him, furry bear.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
As opposed to what other kind of bear.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
You know, that sad one that you've seen without hair,
like a chernoble bear.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, yeah, dude, redundant bear.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
So the relationship gets intense. She's like, we're falling in love.
They email each other sometimes dozens of times a day.
You remember that in two thousand.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
And miles probably remember.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
In two thousand and one, when you can have an
online relationship with someone and it like meant something. People
and your friends weren't like, what the fuck.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Are you doing?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, because we didn't know uh, and they have phone calls.
He sends her photos of him with his photo face,
his face of his photo super imposed over a fucking
weightlifter's body, and I think she finds out and thinks
it's like funny, but it's not.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
He doesn't. He does not mean it funny.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's not like he's like, look, I'm a meme or
anything else before there's no memes.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's two thousand and one free meantime.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yes, he So I also bet that photoshop is insanely shitty.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
So it was like, oh, his head.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
With a black ring around it, Yeah, part of a
bar ear like his real ear, and then the ear
from weightlifter, and of course his face is normal irish white,
and then the bodybuilder's body is.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Like a hot dog's color. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
So then they plan to meet for the first time.
He's like, makes up a bullshit thing that he's going
to Germany for work to go get muscles. Yeah, and
so they plan a meet on March second, two thousand
and one. She's all excited about it and then doesn't
hear from him after that. So it turns out the
day before they're set to meet, on February twenty eighth,

(36:19):
two thousand and one, at sixteen minutes past midnight, Colin
calls nine nine nine, that's what you guys call it.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
They know, I know, I know. I don't know why
I told them we're having a heart adjustment period and
asks for an ambulance.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
He claims that his wife Mary had fallen down the stairs.
He tells the operators he didn't think she was breathing,
and so he was talked through CPR and heart massaged
by the operator and made a show of carrying them out.
Of course, we're not going to play this the nine
one one nine nine nine call.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Don'tkay the ambulance. I would walk off the stage.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
The ambulance rives at twelve thirty, and immediately paramedics are like,
there's some shady shit going on. They can tell because
Mary's position was not consistent with someone who had fallen
down the stairs or someone who had gotten CPR, and
there's no blood on his face from having given her
mouth to mouth, even though there's blood on her face.

(37:22):
So they also found Mary with like a duvet or
a quilt resting over her, which they thought was weird
and they and her body was too cold to have
it had it just happen.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
You know, a half hour earlier.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
And most telling though, they found a blood soaked towel
around her neck and they work frantically to stave her
and calling coldly asks is she dead? And they were like,
this is fucking not okay. And then within minutes of
Mary's arrival at the hospital Beaumont Hospital, questions are raised
for the medical staff. This nurse, sister Catherine Gallovin. She

(37:56):
she is like, what the fuck you have scratches on
your chest? And so goes over to Guardy garda garda yeah,
and it's like, Yo, check this guy out.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
He's Alreadie sounds like some dude that's standing in the
corner at the hospital. You know, Guardy. He has a
bunch of cigarettes. You can always bum a cigarette from Guardy,
you know.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
So yeah, so she notices that, and then the doctor
who's trying to resuscitate Mary notices marks on her neck
and chest suggests that she hadn't fallen down the stairs,
and also at the hospital, Colin seems to have no
remorse or no like sadness over Mary's death. Mary's mother, Marie,
who's of course extremely close with her only daughter, goes

(38:43):
up to him and is like, what happened? And she says,
I walked up to Colin and he was sitting with
his head in his hands, and I said, how is Mary?
And he just said she was dead, just like that.
I couldn't get over it. I'll never forget the way
he answered me. He was just sitting there. I was
looking at everyone else roaring and crying, and I didn't
know what to think. So that's fucking shady. Later that day,

(39:04):
doctor Marie Cassidy of the State Pathologists Company, she confirms
the suspicions of Garda.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
And says that she had died of exphyxiation.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
The story of what really happened that night was that
as Mary was getting ready for bed, Colin came up
behind her with the dress the belt of a dressing
gown and tries to strangle her, but she fucking fought
like hell and scratched him up. Then that's what they
saw at the hospital and then she's unconscious. He drags
her down the stairs and sits and covers her body

(39:44):
with the blanket so that he could disguise her time
of death, like trying to keep her warm, which is
fucking insane, and then has time to clean up the
crime scene. And but he overlooked traces of blood, so
when they go through the house they find all this shit.
He's yeah, uh, they searched. Then this guy is a

(40:06):
fucking it specialist with his own company, and yet the
guarda searched his computer and found that within weeks of
setting up the insurance policy, prior to their wedding, Colin
was looking up different ways to kill Mary, fucking googling
this shit. I don't think Google exists yet. What was it,
then asked Jeeves.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
He was banging that shit, banging the shit out of it.
That was an innocent time, like two thousand and one,
where people thought, oh, I'll just put this into my
own computer and no one will be the wiser.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
And the porn porn, porn, porn, And then you hit
clear history, clear history, You're gune cleared. What are cookies?
Elvis just walks out the stage. Oh that'd be Oh
my god, what if we.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Don't bring Steven on to her, but we do bring Elvis.
That's so insulting.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
That's just really, dude, just plane rude. That would be great.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
So some of the searches, this fucking idiot goes for
our exphyxiation, latch, loss of consciousness, how long to take
to die from exphyxiation, lack of oxygen to the brain,
and death by strangulation. He just should have put I
won't gonna kill my wife, and what should I do?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Step by step? Tell me exactly so.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
But somehow, and I think it's probably because of arrogance.
Despite being a computer analyst, he just didn't realize that
they could trace every movement of movement like on him.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
So maybe didn't graduate at the top of his class.
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Another creepy thing found on his computer was a downloaded
transcript of a case from Northern Carolina regarding North Carolina.
Northern same thing, North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
We know that one. Why do I have to put
a spin on it?

Speaker 5 (41:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I met, I feel like try to sound smarter and.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
I just now you doubt every word on the page.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I'm so sweaty, Okay, I am too, I am too.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Okay, in North Carolina, which is in Carolina, there's also
South Carolina High all.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
The fucking Carolina all day night, folks.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Okay, there's a case there regarding death by strangulation that's
really similar. Basically, you like studied another fucking murder case.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
It had.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
In both cases, the bodies were wrapped in a blanket
to keep the body warm, and they both involve the
use of a towel to hide the marks around a
victim's neck. So, and they found out about the affair,
and he had both. He had affairs both before and
after marrying Mary. And he posted his number on a

(42:55):
number of dating sites trying to get sex and then
other ones trying to get relationships.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
He's just real piece of shit. So why do the
relationship one? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
I mean not to be cynical, but isn't it how
much time do you have in your fucking.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Day that fucking riance man? Yeah, I'll get you. So okay,
then okay. A month after Mary's death, on April tenth,
two thousand and one, Colin's charge with her murder and
the case was going to make legal history, and that
it would have been the first time that of that
virtual evidence was crucial because the internet searches would have

(43:33):
been central to securing a conviction. And that was the
first time that would happen, which is like, what an idiot.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
You know?

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, that's your legacy. Yeah, no, you're an it guy.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
That is the first person to be prosecuted, Yeah, for
virtual evidence. Exactly, way to go, irony. This is the irony.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
He denies the fucking charges, of course, but the trial
is set for October thirteen, two thousand and three, and
he's fucking let down bail for some reason. It was
going to be seven months later, and they're like, go
ahead and wait at your house or wherever you want,
like Colm on. And so of course his car is
found shortly after his car's found abandoned house.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Both damn close. You wanted two choices, And I was
a fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Right, which is an outer suburb of Dublin, And it's
on Uppercliff Road. Actually it's on Uppercliff Road, which is
a set of cliffs.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
What if it's the one you were I was there,
you were there, I was there. There was in two
thousand and one too. What if you looked over me
like there was a man that was standing.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Now that I think about it, I can see a man.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
So they find his car on the cliffs, you know,
leading to people, some people assuming that he had committed suicide.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
His car's there, all his.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Belongings are in the car, and I'm sure was like, oh,
he committed suicide. But Mary's family was like, fuck that shit,
No he didn't. They knew they they were, like I wrote,
of course, Mary's family was like, oh, hell na. And
they convinced. And they were convinced that Colin had faked
his own death. So they form a huge search party

(45:19):
looking for him. But meanwhile, and it turned out they
were right.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Meanwhile, Colin had stolen the identity of a neighbor named
Martin Sweeney, and Martin had never applied for a passport,
So fucking Colin goes, Martin's my dad's name, and Colin's
met Wow goes.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
And it's all coming together. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Then so then he applied for a passport in this
guy Martin's name, gets the passport and flees to Spain.
He settles on an island called and I wrote this
phonetically Majorca.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, so that's the one you spell phonetically, but one nobody.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Gives a shit about. So I guess it's not off.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
It's an island that's not off, gently frequented by Irish tourists.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Are you drunk? No, you've seen me for the past
two hours backstage.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I've just huffed a lot of.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Deodorant though, That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
She's high on brute so uh. And he gets a job,
a job in a resort as a bartender, and he's
just like living it up like Cocomo style, and you're like.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Fucking you know.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
He wore his shirt like button was way down here, buttons.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
He was like, He's like, I'm a bodybuilder. It's me.
It's me, the Irish bodybuilder.

Speaker 6 (46:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
He fucking makes friends, he gets a girlfriend. He's like,
this is my life now, asshole. But then he begins
frequenting and frequenting Irish bars in Palma Nova, which is
like you really like fucking number one and hiding your
identity is like, don't go to the bar where people

(46:57):
who are from the place you're hiding from hang out
at hang.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Out where you're going to get super drunk and then
start going.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Wait are you from I? So am I? And I
tell you a secret, a secret because you have both.
I'm gonna tell you. I know, we just met I
Gill I killed people.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
So and he tells he uh, he tells all his
best friends that his parents are dead and he has
no surviving relatives, which is like red flag, I think, right,
unless it's real and then like, oh my god, I'm
so sorry I doubted you.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
It sucks. It can go one of two ways.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Yeah, either you're the asshole or they're the asshole.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
But it's rare that somebody doesn't have like one old
aunt sitting around somewhere, or like.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Someone who they're they keep in touch with on Facebook
from elementary school.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Okay, like just one, yeah, maybe two?

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Good? Good?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
So this, of course, this this place, Santa Ponza. So
he starts going to knight spots in this other place,
Santa Ponza. That's like Ireland's favorite fucking place to hang
out outside of Ireland. So of course, in July, I
have two thousand and four, sixteen motherfucking months after fleeing.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
That's a long time. I that dude was spotted.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
He's a colin spotted at the bar by someone from
Dublin who was like, and he gets extradited back to Ireland.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yay, that person's fucking saved up for their vacation to
Santa Pola whatever it's called. They're fucking half of the bag,
Like isn't it great to be the uh oh?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Or what if it was sober up?

Speaker 2 (48:51):
What if it was like where do I know you from?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Did we got a camp together? I went to elementary school?
Do we do Highland dance? Local references? You don't like?
They don't. They don't want to.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
They're like, stop generalizing about us, you don't know us.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
A friend at the bar, a friend that he had
worked with, said, there's nothing out of the ordinary about
They were all like, what the fuck? His girlfriend's devastated
about the whole thing. Can you fucking imagine? Oh my god,
she had no idea who he really was, so she,
the girlfriend, thought he was dead too. She let him no, no, no,
the girl Helen girlfriend a is like, it's like they

(49:36):
knock on he doesn't show up when he's supposed to.
They knock on her door and they're like, we need
to talk to you about your online boyfriend Colin, and
she's like, oh my god, is he okay? They're like yes,
but and she is gonna like testify against him. She
got to hate Like fuck this dude. Yeah, this girlfriend
is the island girlfriend, a new girlfriend. Oh and nobody
had any idea and she had no idea either, So like,

(49:56):
you know, don't date people on I island.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
It's the point of that one. This is an island. Shit.
Who I'm just sweating so bad. This is high pressure.
It's a high pressure situation. You had one job. Move
you make is wrong. Edit that out.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
So now this Colin is thirty four years old at
the time of the murder trial. He expresses no emotion
at the hearing. He just stands there with his head down,
just as Paul Carney told him he since he prolonged
the Goths family suffering when he refused to offer a
quick trial while extradited, he's still being a dick. He
also said that this quote this has been the most

(50:45):
calculating and callous killing I have ever encountered in my
time in court. So in April two thousand and five,
he Colin pleads guilty to the may.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
The murder of Mary.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
At the sentencing, one of Mary's brothers spoke and said,
our family is living a life sentence since her murder,
and we'll always have to live with it.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
They won't. We won't get off for good behavior.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Mary is gone forever, and we can't run away like
you fucking ran.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
So Justice Carney hands down a mandatory life sentence, the
most severe sentence he could hand down. He said, in
normal circumstances, he would backdate the sentence to the time
I already spent in custody. But since Colin had later days,
yeah from the state, he wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
So he's like, oh, you're.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Sacking on that sixteen months. Yeah, Like remember your island
of vacation.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
You're going to pay. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
So Mary's brother David addressed Colin, saying that the family
would never ever, ever, quote forgive him, because he took
a piece of each of them when he killed Mary
and quote Mary's only crime was loving you too much,
I know. And that's the murderer, Colin Wheeland of Mary goth.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Wow, that's sad. That was amazing, Thank you, that was great, Bully.
I'm glad yours is next. I'm gonna do a billy
in the bowl our gal. Emily, Emily is the only one. Emily,

(52:15):
stop it.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Some also people know him as the Stonybatter Strangler. Oh,
now they get it. This was actually this story was
tweeted to us on our Twitter page by a Doublin
theater group called Tales from the Shadows.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Oh it's Emily's theater. God, what are the chances care?
Stand up? Okay, what's your theater group all about? We
do storytelling and shout at puppety altogether. We also just
started a podcast. We got two episodes so far.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
What's it Silence from the Shadows, Silence of the Shadows?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Sound sorry? Sound show? Is it like a storytelling podcast?

Speaker 7 (53:03):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Represent storytelling podcasts. All right, well I'm doing your story. No,
thank you. That's awesome. Yeah, because you know what I
was gonna do.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
I had Alias Grace that story that that was just
on Netflix, and I had it all researched.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Don't act sad, that's really rude. But then I realized
it was an Irish girl.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
But the whole thing took place in Canada, so there
was picture in my mind like no one.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Gives a shit about Canada. Then we got this tweet
and I was like.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
They don't want you getting the fucking places in Canada wrong.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Now are you doing it here?

Speaker 2 (53:41):
This is we need errors from the island, from this island.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
And then I so I look at this and uh
so what Emily and her theater group did was they
linked a video of uh there's a video series called
story Maps where people tell stories.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Is it all Europe or is it just Ireland? Oh,
just Dublin.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Okay, you guys have enough here Jesus. Storymaps dot I E.
And it's really cool.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
There's just all these people telling local lore and local stories.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Oh good. Other people are hot too. Okay, that's great,
Oh good. Oh yeah, I forgot I could do this.
Oh so fuck sick. Yeah you can do that.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
In this story Maps video, it's a lovely young man
named Bobby Ahearn who tells the story.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Of Billy and the Bull ern a Hearn.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Okay, we have family friends named the Aharns, and so
I just fight every pronunciation.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
My grandma told me that.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
I become the girl in the bar Bobby Aharn, and
he is so charming. He tells the story so well.
He's sitting in the grange in He's got a cup
of tea in front of him, and he tells the
story of Billy and the bull, which is fucking nuts. Also,
there's a blog called Silent Owl and they wrote up

(55:07):
the story of it. There's a lot of great information.
So I took from both of those. So this man,
Billy Davis, he was born sometime in the mid seventeen hundred,
So this is old old Olk, great and right hood.
And although not much as known about his early life,
it's safe to assume that he was a beautiful, healthy
baby boy because the story about him, and the kind

(55:31):
of the overwriting fact of the story of Billy and
the Bowl is that he was fucking hot. He had
a big mop of black hair, and he had green eyes,
and he had like an aquaal and nose and just
gorgeous face.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
And so he was like he was, he was dashing.
He was a dashing hattie. That reminds me.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
I forgot to tell you guys, we saw Beniicil del
Toro in the airport. He was really exciting. Yeah, he
looked so hungover. It made me sad for him. Sorry, no,
if he's here tonight, apologies, what.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
If he was flying over to conn.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Suddenly we pretend to be fans of the nisi a
del Torum. I love everything you've done okay. So uh
so Billy Davis was a Hawkeye.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Unfortunately he was born with no legs. Oh so.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
It wasn't supposed to be a joke, ma'am. Somebody is
laughing insanely hard over there. So he ends up living
in a place called the House of Industry, which is
also known as the Dublin Poorhouse. And so basically, no,

(56:48):
I know, it's it's uh, they're trying to gild a
lily on that one a little bit. The first House
of Industry was built in seventeen oh three where today
the Saint James Hospital stands, and so.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
It was maintained this I love this fact.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
It was maintained by the taxes that people paid for
their sedan chairs and their hackney carriages. The dan chairs
are those things that you see in like period movies
where four dudes carry a box with a rich.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Lady and sign on sticks. Yes that's a sedan chair.
Oh god.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
So it's like I want to be like, fuck those women.
But I bet their shoes hurt so bad constantly, and
they were in their courses, everything about and their oppression,
all of it.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Everything about painting. I'm like, get on that box get
in the box.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
But those people that had carriages and sedan chairs had
to pay an extra tax for them, and then tax
went to pay.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
For the House of Industry.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
That was kind of you know, it's a good set
to bring those back, except for the House Industry wasn't
the best place in the world, as I'm sure you
well know and can imagine. In eighteen o five, a
man named Sir John Carr took it wrote something called
His Tour of Ireland.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
He described the House of Industry as.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Quote, a gloomy abode of mingled want, disease, vice and malady,
where lunatics were loaded with heavy chains and fallen women
bound and logged.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Shit, yeah, that's heavy.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
No sedan chairs inside of the House of Industry. Also,
you could, if you were a fallen woman, which what
that meant you wore dressed like this, that basically you're
fucking in there with all the worst of the worst,
bound and logged, which whatever that fucking means, I don't
want to know that, okay. So, also, a political theorist

(58:43):
named Alexis de Toauqueville describe the conditions of the inmates
that he saw during his investigative tour of Ireland in
eighteen thirty five as the most hideous and disgusting aspect
of destitution.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Jesus. So it wasn't it wasn't awesome.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
There they fed people, i think it's said, once or
twice a day, with a soup that they made from
collected scraps from the great houses.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
So wherever the rich people lived, they.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Go by and get the scraps and they're shitty leftovers,
and then put all that in a bowl and make
a soup and they're like, er time everybody.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
On the one hand, I'm like, that's pretty cool, though
at least it's not if I'm like, what the horses
were eating, Well, i.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Mean, that's very positive of you, but they're noting it.
It means itways bad. Yeah, it means this soup sucked.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
So in seventy three, this workhouse is reformed and it's
split into a hospital for the mentally insane, a workhouse
for the poor, and then a foundling hospital primarily used
for the safety and education of the admitted children. Now
they start talking about this foundling hospital and it later

(59:57):
comes under investigation because of the abnormally high mortality rates.
It turns out four of the five children that are
admitted to the Faunilying Hospital die four of the fucking five.
And the investigations they find strong evidence that lady is
so drunk it is she is at a totally different show.

(01:00:20):
I'm reading about infant mortality rates and she is peeing
her fucking pants.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
It's the Bank holiday. It's the fucking Bank holiday. What
if it's a ghost? Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
So so the House of Commons stops allowing for new
admissions to the family Hospital in eighteen thirty one. It
took them one hundred and seven years to be like,
you know what, it has to stop. Thousands of children have.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Died, like they're better off on the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Just she closed the door. But well, let's wait one
more year. Okay, one hundred and seven years have passed.
We're going to stop.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
So when it's reformed, this house been street in seventeen
seventy three. It turns out there's no place for Billy
Davis because and this is something good Old Bobby Ahern
read in his in the Story Map Story that in
the Minutes book it said, quote it is deemed resolved

(01:01:17):
that the man in the bowl is not a proper
person and is to be discharged from the House of Industry.
So they decide because he's handicapped, he is not a person,
and they fucking kick him out, which sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
So he's in the streets of Dublin.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
It's the mental late seventeen hundreds now, and they say
at the time eighteenth century, Dublin was known for two things.
All the amazing architectural buildings and beggars.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
That's what there's the most of everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
And I guess candy and soda bread. Yeah, I was
hoping for it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Now you tried so.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
But the good news is things aren't all bad because
some along the line, a kindly blacksmith took pity upon
Billy and they built him this weird early version of
a wheelchair, which was basically a big, huge iron bowl
that he could sit in, okay, and he stuck some

(01:02:16):
wheels on it, okay, And then Billy used two pieces
of wood and pulled himself along in a bowl, and
that's how he became known as Billy and the Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Holy shit. So now pictured this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
When I first read this story, I didn't get that
there were wheels on the bowl, so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
I just thought he was fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Dragging an iron bowl, like the worst CrossFit workout.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Of all time, and you know, all the cobblestone streets, so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
He just jar teeth.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
It's just the loudest, heaviest situation.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Anyway, he was hot, but he was hot.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
And that's we can always go back to that when
things get hard. Is that up here everything was working
out great for him because among all of the beggars,
he actually was of course gorgeous, and he was really charming,
so he got a lot of pity and attention and
people would give him money. He also made friends with
a lot of the servant girls, and he I think

(01:03:13):
he stole from the house of industry style, so he
would go back along the back of the great houses
and they would give him scraps from the house. So
he had ended up filling his bowl up, as Bobby
heard in the video says, like a big stew He
sits in his bowl like a big stee Oh my god,

(01:03:35):
coins little pieces of meat, I don't know, okay. And
so basically this is he is on the streets of
Dublin for six years begging, but he he drinks any gambles,
so as much as he makes and as well as
he does being a beggar, a hot beggar on the street.
You know, the money goes, So now I've lost my place.

(01:03:59):
So he decides to embark on a life of crime.
So early one night in seventeen eighty, around dusk, Billy
lays in wait until he sees a middle aged woman
coming up Grange Gorman Lane on her way to Queen Street.
She's by herself, and he throws himself out of his bowl. Aye,

(01:04:22):
yeye right, pieces of meat go everywhere. Sorry, that's inappropriate,
and he lays in the bushes moaning and screaming. Right,
So then the lady's like, oh no, something happened to somebody,
and she goes over to see what's going on. And
now you have to imagine, because he's spent years and

(01:04:44):
years and years dragging himself around in a bowl, his
upper body strength is fucking nuts, so he has like crazy,
a crazy upper body. Sorry, I just got this like
Pole Dark kind of my damn my head of Like

(01:05:05):
how hot Pole Dark?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Right, Louise, you gotta watch that show. That guy's insane looking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
But basically she leans down.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
This lady leans down to be like are you okay?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
It's an old school Ted Bundy style, like I'm her exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
He's the arige ted Bundy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Because then she's like, are you okay, man in the ditch? Yeah,
his huge power arms come out and just strangle her. No,
he chokes her out. He takes her purse bowls away,
as we know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Loking, clumping on those fucking cobble stone.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Bobby at Hearn says it was like he was going
around in a canoe on the street.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Oh, that's how we explained it. Bobby is the best.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Bobby's the best, and he had a real glimmer in
his eyes as he told this story. So when the
middle aged wakes up, she has no fucking clue what
just happens. She's just like, I don't know who did it,
I don't know what he looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
She has no clue.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Meanwhile, Billy and the Bowl has the perfect cover because everybody,
of course writes him off. They don't know how insanely
strong he is and Paul Darky is underneath his shirt.
They just go, oh, it's the poor crippled man. So
he is never even slightly considered he is. Nobody even
takes notice, and it's the perfect cover. So he then
proceeds to do this crime constantly. This is now his

(01:06:30):
new jam.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
So that's up until seventeen eighty six.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Now, one night he's he's laying in wait waiting for
a woman to rob. But the one who comes along,
as BOBBYA. Hearn describes her she's a hefty servant girl.
Oh shit, you better fucking watch out for us. Hefty

(01:06:59):
servant girls not fuck with us. So he goes to
choke her out and she's like, I don't think so,
man in the bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
And love it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
She starts to fight him off and she's starting to
get away. He knows that if she gets away, his
whole scheme is gonna be over, so he strangles her
to die, and this is his first murder. Yeah. When
her body's found the next day, it's a huge story.
Everybody goes nuts. They call it the eleven Grange Gorman
Lane murder and it's Ireland's first ever. Oh so, Ireland

(01:07:37):
had just assembled their first police force.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
This is how long ago this was, Okay, pre police,
damn Garda, the Guarda.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Or the Guardie or you're changing it now that it's
my story. Now that she's died, they're just saying whatever
they want, Louise, you say no.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Single ar purel okay, are you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
The one that was laughing earlier, because I'm not listening
to you, baby death laugher.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
One guarda shoe GUARDI got it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
This is all information that will not help us in Oslo.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
But tomorrow night everyone's gonna think we're really smart.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Oh shit, thanks you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Tomorrow night we're gonna be like, no, you're pronouncing it
ron h.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I mean in all these articles they called.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
It the police force, So yeah, I don't know what
you guys are anyhow. So basically the case goes cold.
Nobody suspects Billy and the bowl. Of course, he's the charming, beautiful,
sure beggar. No one even looks at him, so he
decides to lay low for like six months. But of
course all of his bad habits get the best of him.
He starts to run out of money, so he goes
and he uh so, one night he's on Richardson's lane.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Two women are walking along. It's dusk.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Some say in some stories they're servant girls. In some
stories they're like rich, well to do women, but either way,
it was women who were kind of dressed up for
the night on the town. So they had a lot
of jewelry on and a lot of kind of overt richness.
So Billy does this thing where he throws himself out
of the bowl, but he doesn't see that there's two women.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
He just knows that someone's coming. Does he hide his
giant bowl on wheels?

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
You know what he does is he also carries around
a big fightus.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Plant, and so can't just go ahead and pull that
plant over.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
It looks like this amazing gorgeous planter on wheel.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
I love it if it was like a Looney Tune style,
like Skyline, like the Warner Brothers studio.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
He folds the bowl up real small and puts him
in his pocket and then lays down in the bushes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Oh my god, I can't account for the bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Okay, the man sized bowl that he rolls around it,
he pulls it backwards, parks it, parks it facing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Out, Yeah, gets out, gets into the bushes. Yeah, so
holes in this story.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
There's this whole thing is fake obviously, but who cares.
So when the women come up, he's doing the thing
where he's doing his cries for help. The women approach,
he sees uh that their money, their jewelry, their money.
They open their purse to give him money. He can't

(01:10:31):
control himself. He grabs one woman. No, he doesn't see
that there's the other woman. He just sees the one
in front of him. He starts to strangle her, and
then the woman behind her pulls out her fucking hat pins.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Yes the world hat.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Pins that are like this long, and she jams it
into his right eye.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
We're god, we're happy, We're happy. But it's hard. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
There's nothing that makes Irish people clap more than piercing
an eye with a pin.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
They love it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Oh, man, that's I'm just gonna we need to start
wearing hats again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
I just don't understand how you put that on your
head and don't then jam it into your own skull. Right,
But it worked out great because they run up to uh,
hold on, I'll tell.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
You where do they head here? Run up to a street.
It's gonna be somewhere fun. I bet it. I bet
it's gonna be somewhere Manor Street. They run up to
Manor Street. Is that fun?

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
They run up to Manor Street, which is an amazing street.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
You have to see it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
And uh, there's a group of people there in that
group of people, there's a new garda who's like, hey,
I'm just learning how to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Let me help. And they get my baton out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
They're old, old baton, run down, and they find Billy
laning on the street with his eye out, and they
finally realized that they had this is who the strangler was.
So someone goes and grabs I guess that hem. The
bowl must have been elsewhere, because they went and got
a wheelbarrow and put him and took him up to

(01:12:16):
the Green Street prison. So what a bummer? Yeah, it's
the whole thing is horrifying. So they could not prove
that he was the strangler. They didn't have the evidence
to connect it to the other murders, but they had
him for this one. So he was convicted for robbery
with violence okay, and he was sentenced to hard labor

(01:12:37):
at the Green Street prison. What's that some kind of
a sex reference that I'm not getting.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
No, they're they're because he doesn't have legs, so we're
wondering if he got his soul.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
It's so small minded of you to think that you
can only do labor with your legs. What about this?
What about lifting things? But about handing someone something over
and over here, I got it. I will pass that
salt for the rest of my.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Life, Karen hard Labor is passing solid.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
If you make a really loud noise as you pass
it, it counts as hard neighbor.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Ah God, I'm sick of it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Uh So, basically, he's convicted and he has to stay
there over the rest of his life. Okay, there was
a super creepy thing that they used to do. I
don't know when they stopped doing it. The rich would
go and visit prisons and mental institutions as like just
as a night out. So apparently he became like a

(01:13:43):
side show at the prison.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Because he has one eye. Now he's got the one.
I don't know if that eye came all the way out.
The other one's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
It's so hot, gorgeous, green black, what a great combination.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
I didn'tn't get it. And they go watch him pass
salt all the time. It's disgusting.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
And they say that on some dark nights in the Grangeboorman,
Stony Buttter districts, huh huh, you can hear a strange
straight noise combing up behind you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
They don't like it. When I do the accident, I
can tell you're not insulting me. So I think it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Okay, great, they they really do say. And there's a
place called Hidden Dublin that gives ghost tours and it's
on the walk.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
It's the North Side Ghost Walk tour you can take.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
And they say that the ghost of Billy and the
Bull haunts the area where he has a.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Party after party tonight. What is it? Hold on, we
have to consult with Louise really quick.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
What Louise? What's wrong? I actually live in Stonybatteris. If
you want to have an after party, that's great. After this,
Louis Is after Falcony.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Louis Is after don't wake up her flat work tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
The guy comes out and his underwear.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
You guys, come on, not every day's a bank holiday.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
And there's also Billy and the Bulls referenced in a
Dubliner song and inn a Pogue song. So he's a
legend and that's the story of Billy and the Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Yeah, hey, that was great.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Yeah, it's up. We did it, thank you. I think
we have time for let's do it hometown murder.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Yeah, let me just tell you really. You might know
these rules already, but we had to force some rules
with the hometowns. You can't be so drunk that you
can't follow your own story. It's important. You have to
stay present. You have to know where you're going.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
We don't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
That's key. But don't be afraid to be super buzzed.
Please make it dublin orts or close by.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Nobody gives a.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Shit if something happened in Arizona and what else?

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Oh uh?

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Oh everyone hates you. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
If you do get picked, all the people that don't
get picked are gonna hate your guts.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
So keep it moving. And Georgia, I think it's you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
I am on a fucking roll, so don't don't ruin
this for me. Guys who has a hometown?

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Nobody?

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
I think that the girl sitting next to our friends
that helped us. Yeah yeah, and the toxic masculinity where
Vince go Wanks is right there, walk over to him.
Oh there's Vince. Everybody. Franks got us a lovely charcooterie
and she's spread backstage.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Vince is our tour manager. He is Georgia's husband.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
He does it all. He does it, which means we
don't have to pay him.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
No, we pay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
That's hard labor. He's doing his hard labor for Freeze,
his hard much start labor. What his hard start labor?
Oh right, that's so good. Hi. What's your name?

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
That's Cutefa. You're center center. Look at her shoes to
a nice stage picture. Those are great. Tell me your name? Sorry? Awesome? Everybody,
where are you from? I am from Carrie. You're from Carrie, Carrie.
She's from Carrie. You guys know what did you say it? Right?

(01:17:34):
I'm sorry it's Carrie Jesus. Okay, what's your hometown? So
my mom is from.

Speaker 8 (01:17:42):
Westmeath and she's from this tiny village like there's not
even as many people as there is here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Fun, it's called cool and cool. Sorry.

Speaker 8 (01:17:55):
So a family from Dublin moved out there years ago
and the father worked in England, so he'd be back
and forth, and then they just stopped seeing him. Oh,
and then they moved away. And they hadn't really got
involved with the community, so it was fine, nobody cared.

(01:18:16):
But then they went The daughter went to the guardie
multiple got it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
Message received.

Speaker 8 (01:18:26):
And told them that they had killed him a few
years back and buried them. It buried him in their garden.
Guardian garden, got it guard and then they took him
up and burnt him somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
The family did yeah, what did okay?

Speaker 8 (01:18:48):
And then she decided to go to the GUARDI because
she found out her mother was having an affair with
her boyfriend, her own boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Okay, wait, who's relatedt First of all, her name name
top No?

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Yeah? Wait, so when they killed the father, was it
the mother's idea? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
And she's the mother and the boyfriend. They tricked the kids.
They tricked the daughter kill.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
No, No, it's her cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
What's t is it? She looks nice, she doesn't look bad.
You better come up here right now. She looks nice.
It was like jump down the road from my mom.

Speaker 5 (01:19:42):
To maybe you're related this go are on here, hurry, hurry, Harry, Harry.
We got to hear this. What the hell's going on?
Move this?

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
This is press it at it's her cousin.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
She said.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
She yelled it to my cousin and then.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
I was like, oh ship, And then I saw her
face and she doesn't look angry, so we're good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
It's gonna be okay. She was, this is the great
fear that you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Were really fucked up over this PTS. Okay, yeah, pray
what your subscribes?

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
What's your.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Okay, they're sharing do it in the microphones?

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Okay talking? Okay, So your cousin, who's your cousin on stage?

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Please?

Speaker 7 (01:20:55):
We were going to email in okay, auntie, but we
decided not to.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Because she wanted to say that.

Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
Came on stage lot about.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Okay, it's not an aunty dot. We talked to.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
Good you know the kind we got, you know, we
know what she's done.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Oh my god. And we know she has a book,
a book. She wrote a book about it. You don't
get to do that if you're the murder so well
you were we were. Will you run it down for us?
Just really quick of like we see, we don't. You
don't talk about it. I don't know d see everyone
in the parents you asked the parents and are waiting.
We don't talk about that. We can't. We won't tell

(01:21:44):
you anything. We can't just a book, just tell much.
We won't know anyone. We're not going to tell anyone, right,
we're keeping a character.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
It was there was a bonfire, yeah, was also a
under patio yeah, and then.

Speaker 7 (01:22:00):
They decided that wasn't good enough, so they.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Brought it up and twenty legs.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
Oh but associate with that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Okay, even just because I didn't get to the pigs part.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
My mom did the pigs. I'm so glad of you guys.
There were this all stays in this room tonight. Please
please don't say there was bits left in the pig.
That's how they found out. That's how they proved that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
But it was Demurtter, who's the daughter's husband. So the
daughter went to the guardian. To the guard multiple said, hey,
do something shitty on.

Speaker 9 (01:22:53):
Good for her, a woman scorn man, I can watch it.
So she brought out a book notes that hey fuck you,
Oh my god, it's like a dire Remember our family
walked out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Us and so she's a child. Now she's gone, she's
in and she's like, I'm right here.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Murder of the Bodice is for murder.

Speaker 7 (01:23:22):
Yeah, the daughter's husband was some for manslaughter. I will
find out the name of the book. Okay, great, and
I will.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
I will come up. I'm not going to read it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
I love it. Amazing seven part series right now that we.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Can around, let's yere.

Speaker 6 (01:23:45):
Sorry, support, good child, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Oh my god, we'll call you guys later. Oh that
could have.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Been a fucking oh fuck, And it was, and I'm
so grateful for that. I'm sweating a little extra.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
I love that they came up and made less information
than a fad.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Fuck. Yes, that's what it's all about.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
It would been cool if we'd get like thirty people
on the stage just mailing around of like, well, I've
heard this story, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Like to say this, and that you forgot the part
of the pig the chickens. You forgot the chickens. Oh fuck,
that was Dublin. Yeah. This has been amazing. Oh my god,
thank you. Thank you to our translators, Emily, you made
it happen. Brot Ruse, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
This is a really, really awesome way to kick off
our tour, Big Europe tour, our Big UK and Ireland.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Tour and doublin.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
You guys not only are kickoff show, you sold out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Yeah. Yeah, that's so amazing. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
We can't it's very difficult for us to convey how
insane this is. Where we just started taping our personal
conversations at Georgia's house two years ago and now we're
in Ireland talking to a thousand people.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
I mean, it's it's fucking amazing. It's so honored, and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
We know it's all because of you guys, obviously, and
we appreciate it so much and.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
We're so grateful.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
We have the best time, and it's because you guys
are you're the best listeners and the best people to
talk to about this crazy, fucked up shit that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
We're all so fascinated by.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
So thank you so much, and stay sexy, and

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Thank you