93 - Live at The Grove in Anaheim

In this week’s episode, Karen and Georgia cover the killer Daniel Wozniak and Disneyland deaths.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah, that's right. That was scary.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
We should have done it in the dark. We should
do the whole thing in the dark.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
What is hap it?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
That was scary.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
That was Friday to the thirteenth. Still it makes sense.
I know it's not.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's just Saturday the fourteenth, No big deal. Everything's super chill.
How's it going you guys.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Us too?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's true, that's true for real, same z. Were glad
to see all your faces.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I think you're safe andsane.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
In this crazy world.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
And the Dodgers we could be talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Would you say the Dodgers? I don't know. We're right
by a baseball thing, you guys?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Am I right about the Dodgers?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Or Am I right? That was pandering? You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
You're somebody who's like you have to back it up somehow. No,
they've gone nine for seventeen this year.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I don't know what that is. We were just standing
in the back in the green room and there's a
big screen TV with the game on, and we were
both staring at it trying to figure out if the
game was over.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yet was I was trying to tell Georgia's that everything
we were watching were automatic replays. I was like, this
is no, this is a replay, and this is also
replay as well, so.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I think it's still happening. You're just like it looks live.
It looks really.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Live to me.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I'm like, that's how they do it. They just use
replays all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
And then Vince was yelling at the TV, telling it,
telling it what sports.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
We fucking love sports, don't we murdering?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
No, there's a tiny baby. What's a tiny baby with headphones?
Take those headphones the baby. Let's teach them some swear words.
What do you do it?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
We have terrible stories to tell you.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Get ready for the word.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Hi baby Hei Hi?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Nope, can't see this far yet?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
What if we did this for like we said this
for nine full minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Hey, Nope, doesn't care.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Doesn't give us single ship?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Fair enough? We got the rest of you guys.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
George's kind of a local girl. I hope you know that.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
I forgot about that, And now I'm nervous. My sister
wanted to be asked if anyone went to school with
me or got high with me? Who's here tonight? I
don't think so. We can't remember someone over there? They're liars.
There is the wife of someone that I used to
go to raves with here supposedly, so that's kind.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Of cool, I mean, is it?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Though?

Speaker 4 (03:25):
No, remember those pants.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Come on you guys. We don't have to pretend at school.
Just the best We saw the apartment Georgia grew up in.
M we drove she was getting knock on the door.
I had to pee, Hi, what's up? How's your day going?

(03:46):
Can we look through your house?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Can I cry and walk through your house at the
same time I.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Work through some serious issues in your living room?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Do you have time?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
My therapist told me just to lay down in a
fetal position in the place I grew up in and
I'll be better. So do you mind if I come in?
Is the carpet still shag carpet from the seventies even
though I was twenty years later?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
No?

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Fuck?

Speaker 4 (04:09):
What color?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Brown? Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Brown like all the rest.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Of the city. Dude, right, this fucking city I've ever
seen in my life. No wonder, I'm like fucking crazy
and like got everything pierced and tattooed and like Granda
La immediately bege beige. Yeah, it was nice, Ice, It's nice.
I have to say. There's something very soothing.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
About it, though, because you're just like, oh, we're at
that same apartment complex. No, it's a seven eleven. No, no, sorry,
it's a grammar school.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I see. Even my high school was fucking tam and stucco.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, stucco. It's really nice. Noimes, this is not insulting to.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
You at all. I don't mean Anaheim. We're talking specific. Yeah,
Anaheim's chill as fuck. You got that big Disneyland, just
name shit that's around the city. Do you have a
really good burger king?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's fast, they're friendly, it's alict somehow cheaper than the
other burger kings.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
There's the good.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Burger king by the freeway, and then there's that grossburger
king that's out by that field.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Don't go there. Eh. Yeah. We are staying at a
hotel close by, and it's one of those hotels where
I think the families go to Dizneyland for like a week,
so they have to stay in the place as a kitchen.
But it's like a tiny hotel room and they all
fucking are so sick of each other and hate each other.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
It was it's like the family fight in over there.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's just I go, is that lady going out into
the hallway to fight with her child, because it was
like a Doppler effect of like, what there's one lady that.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Was just standing there going lucy Lucy, but angrier Lucy.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
She did it like twelve times.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, we were sitting in the room, like working on
our stories, and then we would just start laughing because
it was like like in the other room. Yeah, it's
pretty great, and they don't deserve Disneyland, and then it
just makes you think of all those family vacations and
then the reality of them is everyone fucking hated each other.
Hate each other.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you when I my first trip
to Disneyland.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Age five, fifth birthday.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
That's not why we went, It's just it was just
a coincidence.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
They actually played it down.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Families are the worst.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Because it was also a Mother's Day weekend, so it's
our family and the Mazzoni family and then my Grandma Grace.
And one of the first rides we went on was
Pirates of the Caribbean, and I can remember this like
it was yesterday.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I was sitting in front of my dad.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
This second we went through the restaurant Lagoon where everything
is chill, and you.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Go down that very small hill to.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Go into the rest of the very chill ride for
something that I didn't like, how dark it was.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Well, there's a little skeleton talking to you about shit.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Man, it's not for five year olds on their birthday.
And so I just started screaming and.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I wouldn't stop screaming, and my dad.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I remember my dad being in my ear and he
got pointing. There's like a little girl that was sitting
I care next to us in the boat or ahead,
or she was in a different I can't remember, but
he just kept pointing at her, going, she's not screaming.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Look at her, she's.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Not screaming at all, shaming you.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
So when we got out of Pirates of the Caribbean,
we got into the line for the Jungle Cruise, but
I thought my parents were taking me back on to Pirates.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Of the Caribbean. So I got the fuck out of there.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
And I failed, and I was lost for three hours
in Disneyland.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah or they like let her go?

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I walked around by myself until I found a guy
dressed like an old fashioned cop and then I said,
my family is and they brought me to a tiny
house that was child's size, and that's when I knew
things bad things are about to start happening. I was like,
oh no, here's this is the end of the thing
where no adults come into play.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Here's where you live forever. You live here now, Oh
my god, girl, you have to eat this whole gingerbread
house for the rest of your life.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I just remember my dad coming in the door of
the lost child's house like this, like like a true monster,
so pissed. And apparently while I was gone, my grandmother.
All my grandmother would say to my mother is I
knew you'd.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Lose her ouch ouch.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
So just fun, healthy times at Disneyland.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
When I was a kid, we would every Christmas, all
the Jews and all the Muslims would go to Disneyland
because there's nobody there. It was like awesome and we
were all like we were all friends and we were
high fiving each other like it was like we came
together on Christmas. Nice, so great.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
That's actually Walt Disney's dream. Yeah, he was very he
was very low key about how much he wanted us
and Muslims to come together, but it was his real fantasy.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
We're all like, fuck Christmas, let's go to Disneyland. Yeah yeah,
and then Chinese food together, right, yeah, yeah, it's pretty
It was pretty fun. And then the last I've tried
to take Vince twice at his name, he's never been
because he's from you know, and uh yeah, we've walked in,
walked and you keep accidentally going on like a day,

(09:36):
you know, like a like a someone's day or something day.
And then it's like so crowded that I have a
panic attack. And so then we just go and get
drunk at the cheeky bar. Yes, and it's amazing. Fuck it,
that's what those bars are for. Seats go up and down.
You're like, what's happening. It's so fun, it's pretty great.
I miss getting drunk at Disneyland.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
You need a minute, I mean, can I just go
back real quick to nineteen ninety seven. Oh, it's so
good at it. I'm just saying, as a blackout drunk,
you wouldn't have known until I fell down onto your shoes.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
That I was a blackout pan because I just.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Fucking I didn't slurred, I didn't try to tell you
a fucking secret the whole time I handled my shit.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
You know what I mean. I made it.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I made it work for everybody.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
It was like I cared about others also being drunk.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
You described me, I slur and I tell secrets. That's
all I do. Yeah, i'sn't done for us, And then
you had an I'm slur. I'm not that drunk. Stop it,
stop it, get you here.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Also, when you're in drunk, time takes so much fucking longer.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
That's the problem. Most problem I have with.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Being sober is just waiting for drunk people to get
around to it, or just like, let's pick up the pace.
We don't have forever. Tell your secret now, Georgia. We
have two rugs in anahe oh my god, oh my.
We each have our own rug.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Shit, don't touch mine, Karens plus get it, stop it.
My grandma made this one. In Karen's grandma made that one,
and they come with us on tour. It's pretty special.
There's a there's a sesame seed on yours.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Oh, I'll get it.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Oh my god, George, what was the thing.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
You You walked into the bathroom and dropped food on
the bathroom floor.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
And then Georgia goes five second rules.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
It drops on the bathroom floor.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
You have to eat it?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
What if that?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
And then I did it?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah, that's the new rule.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Know what it was? So someone voodoo someone brought us donuts. Oh,
zombie donuts.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Zombie donuts, say thank you?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Thank you for is that you? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
No, real zombie you guys get out of her at
your own pace. It's not a rush because they're very slow.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
That was amazing, Thank you. I ate two and a
half donuts. And then there was the one people keep
bringing this do.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I just I'm going to turn into fucking violet beaureguard
pretty soon.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's not good. Someone yesterday at the San Diego show
brought us this like gorgeous coffin box. Was so beautiful
and the most gorgeous cough it was, I know, it's weird.
And inside were these little truffles that she had handmade
of those peanut butter ball peanut butter balls with the
rice crispies inside of the classic.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Grandma Christmas dessert that you eat seventy of and then
you're like, what happened to me?

Speaker 1 (12:39):
And each one had a little like a little frosting
hatchet on it like a dude. It was so cute,
like a dude a little dot. I was like, is
this the hatchet.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Killing the brown head of the peanut butter?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
But like, what is this violence? And George's like, it's
just a hatchet. Yeah, you're overthinking.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Hatchetn't need a reason I put a hatchet on a
peanut butter.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I feel like, at this point in this podcast, how
are you surprised that there's a hatchet on you? Well, like,
we're like, what's the storyline of his hatches?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Get?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah? And then we were going to eat them all
in the hotel for sure? For sure.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well they were in my bag, so I was like
being very you know, people bring us lovely, lovely presents,
and then we tried to divide them up just so
we can carry carry Everyone has to carry their own shit.
And I was like, oh, the coffins in my bood.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
It looks like.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I'm going to be eating fifty peanut butterballs tonight. Oh well,
I guess that's fate. And then as we're standing.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
To walk out of the theater, the bag just rips.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
I wasn't even moving.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
It was like God himself came down and was like,
don't do that.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Come on now. We couldn't save them. We couldn't. We tried.
We got a picture of it. That's all that matters.
So baby is nothing. Oh my god, no, that was
a part.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
You're lately.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
He loves me?

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Butter balls?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Get up?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Here? Is he love little?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
That means we're pretty? When babies laugh, I think you're pretty.
I'm serious.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
You don't know that.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I don't know that rule. I'm so sad. Oh shit,
peanut butter ball. Oh yeah, so have Oh yeah, oh
this is my favorite murder of the Oh yeah, you like.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
That's the information we have to We might need to
move that up to the top.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
No, I like when I say it, when I say
something terrible and then we introduce it. That's yea and
kill Gareff.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
By the way, Oh yes, thank you. This is Georgia
Hartstark by the way.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Thank you, local girl, extraordinaire, thank you? What did you
call me? Extraordinary? Local girl? Extraordinary? Thank you? Yes, I
called you dirty selt extraordinar Oh my god, thank you.
Don't use that word. Don't use that word. There's got
to be something. I know something. What his name is? Steven?

(15:09):
Oh that's right here.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Were look at him?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Local boy, local boys, Morris, Where are you from.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I'm from Anaheim. Oh my god. Yeah? Where we are
right now?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
We're here?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, Oh my gosh. I'm so excited you're here. Oh
my god. The last time I was here I saw
Michelle Branch so, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
no no w What can I get her?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Thin?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Can I laid downtown and a kid?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
I could and a boo?

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Stephen's crying in the back row.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
No, this is my story. I have to ask, has
any did anyone go to high school? Do drugs with Steve?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
No?

Speaker 4 (16:01):
No, the audience questions I can't answer.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
You're right, you're right, you're right. I went for two
years ago. I moved away. Say hi to all your friends,
so you know who is here?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Steven's dad somewhere.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Hi. Are you proud of your son? Are you proud
of your son? Are happy? No? He doesn't BlimE me.
You did do him all right? Go away?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I like.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
That guy. That guy? What a guy?

Speaker 4 (16:37):
He makes it happen?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
What kind of hear? Are you really what he makes
it happen?

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Is this a professional show?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Is when the other person keeps going what what? What? Sorry?
What was your joke? I want to laugh, to listen.
These shoes, I can wear them for an hour. We're
in twenty minutes, so we better get this show funny. Yeah,
how many you do? Just a quick walk?

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Oh my, it's weirder every time because I'm so uncomfortable
doing it. Why don't you go, Karen? Oh, thank you?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
I why I I don't like high heels.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Look at those sleeves.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Thank you, thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh that's I'd really liked my high heels.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
It's kind of upsetting.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Let's play the game of where how high do our
spanks go tonight?

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Okay, whoever goes the highest winds? They should make spanks
that color coordinate with your skin tone and hair color,
and you just fucking pull that.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Thing all the way up.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Just get in like a sleeping bag, but really tight,
and just be like, how do you like me?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Now? They got fake eyelashes on them so you look
like a person.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Then you just start stabbings drinkers. Yeah, that's the only
thing to would use that for.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, I think we just got into the topic of
the podcast, which is a murder, because that doesn't that's right,
that's a little too close, are we there?

Speaker 4 (18:08):
You're saying you want to sit down, Sure, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Oh, why look it you?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh that's a nice wide seat. Oh thank god, with
some spinning action on the chair.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Hey, hello, it's going to be distracting. Oh, just all
the way right by Karen. Hey, that's a good action.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
That's good English.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Can you go all the way around on yours?

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Can you?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Can you go all the way around on it?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Remember me? You what if everyone had this chair the
best show ever, you would not be distracting.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
You would not everyone had the best time.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
It looks like we're this is the perfect high to
read each other's palms, like have a you're like wash
your hands? Wash your hands? Why don't you wash your hands? Lotion?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Your cuticles are horrifying. All right, I'm gonna go first tonight.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
And this story is super fucked as they always are,
right and you probably know it. It's uh, this is
the murders of Sam Hare and Julie Kuishi.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Oh yeah, that's fucked up shit.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
This is fucked up shit, mostly because it involves community theater.
You know, there's a problem.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Twenty six year old Sam Hare and his family were
very close. He'd recently returned from serving in Afghanistan in
the Army. His family's thrilled to have him home. He
started a new life for himself. He enrolled in Orange
Coast College and right an amazing, amazing learning facility.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Out on the coast.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
My sister went there, Oh really for a bit. Yeah,
what were the do you know their mascot Orange County?
I don't know, oranges, just.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
The shape of the county on a shirt, go fighting counties.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I don't know if they even have sports program? Did they?
I'm wrong? Whatever? All right, okay, go on, what about it?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Is it just the beiges, the fighting beige Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
He also moved into.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
The Camden Martinique apartment complex and coast of Mesa. And
it was totally from the you know, twenty twenties and
the murder shows that I've watched. It was one of
those apartment complexes where it's just a bunch of young
people fucking hanging out by the pool, drinking miller lite.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
So just realized that they live in that apartment ville.
I heard her go, oh shit or something.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
So they're just having a really public and loud response.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
To the fucking Martinique. I left my bike there okay.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
So Sam makes plans to visit his parents for the weekend,
and when he doesn't show up, his dad, Steve immediately
knows something's wrong because the family's super close and he's
a super responsible person that doesn't just.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Flake out on things.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
So he calls Sam's phone over and over and Sam's
phone seems to be off, which Steve knew that there
was a problem with that because he never ever turned
his phone off his phone off. So finally, around nine
o'clock at night, he decides to drive over to Coasta
Mesa to check on his son.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
So when he.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Gets to the apartment, he lets he had a kati
the department as well. He lets himself in. It's silent,
He's calling Sam's name, there's no one there. He's walking
around the house and checking every room, and he finally
goes into Sam's bedroom and he finds the dead body
of a woman who's kneeling on the floor, leaning over
the bed with blood all around her upper body, and

(22:13):
he immediately calls the police and he and Sam is
not there, and so the police question him and ask
him what's going on, and he was like, there's no
way my son has anything to do with this.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
This is not who he is or what he does.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
And they eventually find out they when they go in
to investigate and look at the body.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Her pants have been cut.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
From the from the waistband down through the butt, through
the seat so that her butt was exposed, and on
the back of her shirt someone wrote all yours fuck you.
There were no signs of a struggle in the apartment.
It was just that body and that horrible scene. They
found her purse there and they make the ID. She's

(22:58):
twenty three year old Julie keebu Ishi. She had been
Sam's tutor in anthropology. That's how they met, and they'd
become really good friends, and they were not romantically involved.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
They were just close friends.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
So Detective Jose Morales and Lieutenant Ed Everett with the
Coast of Mesa Police are looking at the scene and
they're worried that what's happening is that Sam, from his
military background, has PTSD and he snapped and killed Julie
and now he's on the run.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
That's what they're.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Putting together, and of course Steve Hare was assuring them
this he did, he did not, and he was really
happy and he was doing really well but that's when
they when they find out that Sam's passport is missing,
they are like, he's on the run, right, So as
they're processing his apartment as a crime scene, they come

(23:50):
upon a wedding invitation and it's from Sam's neighbors, thirty
two year old Daniel Wozniak and his fiance Michelle Buffett
sorry Rachel Buffett. So they go to interview them, and
Dan and Rachel tell the police what every other interview
eventually tells them, which is that Sam was kind, he
was caring, he was really energetic.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Everyone liked him.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
He made friends really quickly, and you know, he was
like a popular guy in the apartment complex.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
So two days later, the autopsy.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Comes back on Julie's body and there's a couple surprises.
She had not been sexually assaulted, which made them believe
this probably was a stage seen in some way that,
along with the fact that there was no there didn't
seem to be a struggle, There was nothing knocked over,
there was it wasn't like that.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
On top of that, they had only seen one.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
One bullet wound in her head, so they assumed she
was just shot once in the head.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
But the autopsy came back.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
She'd actually been shot twice in the head and they
just couldn't see the second wound because they were so
close to each other.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
So so meanwhile Sam's dad, Steve, is doing.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
His own detective work because they shared a bank account
that they had set up before Sam went to Afghanistan
so that his checks from the Army could just get
direct deposited or whatever.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
I don't know if they were direct depositive.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
But but you know, some way conveniently put into the bank.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Does Army have direct depositis? I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
And those are the kind of things I add in
just because I think it sounds right. And then later
on people are like, excuse me, the Army stands against
direct deposit.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
And then I'm like, sorry, we'll.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Make an announcement on the next show, so let us know. Yeah, please,
but only through a handwritten letter or direct deposit or
direct deposit right into our brains.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's fine too.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
So it turned out that Sam had saved sixty two
thousand dollars while he was overseas, and Steve is monitoring
the bank account.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
He sees that someone starts to use.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
The ATM card in Long Beach and taking cash out
of the bank and also ordering pizza. Yeah, you know
what you do with an ATM card. So he brings
all that information, the record and all that to the police.
And when they check the security camera footage at the
bank where the activity took place, the picture of the

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guy using the ATM card is not Sam, because they
think Sam's on the run. He's just trying to like
go to a different city and get money. But it's
not him. It's a teenager, a teenager with wearing a
hoodie and big sunglasses. So they trace the pizza order
to this house in Long Beach, and then they stake

(26:42):
out the house when they know that a second pizza
or is someone screaming it?

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Don't ask? Is it barfing? Okay, I mean we've had that,
I mean more times than screaming.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
You're allowed to barf in the aisles and then crawl out.
It's happened before.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
But no screaming. Just don't scream, listen, Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
So they go and they stake out this house in
Long Beach, and because they heard that another pizza order
was coming.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
So then the pizza.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Guy's walking up and the cops pull him into a van,
grab his outfit.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, oh my god, it's like fucking naked guns.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, it's a little nuts, but they're like, we're going
in undercover pizza style, and they put on his.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Gross shirt and walk up to deliver the pizza.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
And when the door opens, the swat team just fucking
goes into this house.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
And it turns out sixteen year.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Old Wesley Freylich and his friends are there playing video
games and wanting to eat pizza and I'm.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Sure smoking a ton of weed.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
So immediately he spills it to the police because it
was like his mom was in her room.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
He was in so much trouble, you guys. But it
turned out, he says, a guy had hired him to
go extract money from the ATM every day and he
the guy told him he was a bail bondsman that
and the account belonged to a criminal that he had
just arrested, and he was just getting his money back

(28:17):
from the bond but he needed right, he needed Wesley
to take it out. Since he was a minor, he
couldn't be charged for that. And the police are like,
who the funk is this guy, and Wesley says, oh,
it's someone my mom met at Community Theater Daniel Wosney
at the guy who had invited Sam to his wedding.

(28:42):
So on May twenty sixth, the police pick up Daniel
at his bachelor party.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Oh shit, yeah, they bust on purpose for that.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
And then they waited while they were in the bachelor party,
or they're like, we're about to totally fucking.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Rest You's not can I get two of those?

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Or what if they came in and listen? And then
they came in cop outfits? It rights itself.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
You're all under arrest for.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Being too sexy?

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Do you know that happened to me once?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
What you got arrested for sexy?

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I didn't want to tell you because I had my
record exponge.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
But no.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
On my thirty fifth birthday at work, my friends, my
friends who I worked with, hired a stripper and so
in our morning meeting at the Ellen DeGeneres show, we're
sitting in her.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Office, really sexy, so the.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Sexiest of settings.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
We're in the office and an insanely hot guy wearing
a police uniform that's opened the button is open down
to there's a telltale sime. And he comes in and
he's like he had this accident.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
He was just like, does somebody have a Lexis?

Speaker 4 (30:03):
And I was like, would.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
That guy say?

Speaker 4 (30:05):
And they're like, it's hers, it's her Lexus.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
My god, I was like what and he was.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
It was like he was dressed like a cop, but
he was kind of pretending to be a meter maid.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Like it didn't make.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
He didn't think the story through of what the trick was.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
And then he came in and just started freaking me
and it was eleven am.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Everybody so inappropriate. It went on and on.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I was like, I can't fight this. I want to
fight it, I can't. I just have to kind of
relax into it. And basically he at one point near
the end he picked me up, which I'm like, don't
do this to yourself, and then he laid me down
on the couch and then began to simulate that he
was going to go down on me, and I was like,

(30:49):
this is my job, Like ew, we can't do this here,
and so I just leaned down and I grabbed his
head and I go that's enough.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
So for your best friend's next birthday, I highly recommend
hiring a secret stripper.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Okay, oh, why were we talking about that. Oh yeah,
back to the murder us, okay, because we're monsters.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, I will take any fucking random down and be like,
oh wait, can I tell you one thing?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
So they bring Daniel into the station to question him,
and they show him the picture of Wesley in front
of the ATM machine and he goes pale, and so
he goes, all right, I'll tell you everything. So he
says that he and Sam had this idea that they
were going to take the money out of his out

(31:59):
of his check account or his account which it could
have been savings.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Out of his bank account. Bank.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
They were going to take all that sixty two grand
I believe it was out of the account, and then
Sam was going to claim fraud and then.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Oh it was the baby. I get it.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
We're not mad at a baby. Then they were going
to claim fraud, and then then the bank would have
to return the money.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
So he's saying that the dude who's supposedly on the
run is in on it.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yes, exactly, that they basically they had this plan together
that they were going to steal this money and ultimately
make like one hundred and twenty thousand dollars raver but
then he said that Sam called him the night of
the twenty second and said I did something bad and
then told him that.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
He murdered Julie Jesus.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
And so the police were like, okay, they're kind of
trying to put it together and see if it syncs
up with, you know, the evidence that they have.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
And at one point they.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Ask Daniel for DNA and he kind of like his
face changes a little bit and then he's like, well,
I was in the apartment.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
And then they're like, oh, do tell.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
And uh he says, quote, yes, I saw the goddamn body.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Is that what you want? Is that what you want
to hear?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Community theater?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Oh, I don't think in the real world ever, anyone
has ever asked someone a question or told somebody something
and yelled is that what you want to hear? Like
you just are saying it. You don't give a shit
if they want to hear it or not. If you're
trying to tell them.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
That has like a Cagney accent to it, yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
A see hey, yeah, yeah, it's fakey fakers. Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Is that okay?

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yes, I saw the goddamn body. Is that what you
want to hear?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Coppers line, no, no cop line.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Then he says, I sho, I saw the two got
gunshots to the head, and the police are like, you're
under arrest because there's no way anybody in the world.
They're experienced police who were on the scene. Didn't know
it was two gunshots until the autopsy came back, so

(34:12):
they're like, he was there, he knows what happened. So
when they tell him that, he just blurts out, I'm crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
And I did it. I killed them both. So here's
what the truth of all of it was. And this
is just I mean, uh so he's broke of course.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Uh he hasn't paid his rent in months, and he
didn't have a job of any kind except for taking
roles in community theater.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
That's not a job.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
It's not officer, it's it's a passion.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Sure, it's definitely an art it's an art form for some,
but that don't pay. So he he basically was going
further and further into debt. And they said he was
from it, like a relatively well to do family, So
it could have been that thing where like he's so
spoiled that he's like like it'll work out. He kept

(35:12):
get like it'll work outing. It's that's based on my
own experience, or you're just kind of like something will
come and catch me on the wet.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Uh oh.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
But the other thing was he had he had proposed
to his girlfriend, so they had a wedding and a
honeymoon coming up. He had zero dollars and at some
point he found out from Sam that Sam had sixty
two grand, and then he was like, well, I want
that money, and so he fucking makes this plan where

(35:44):
he lures Sam his light fuck. Daniel Watsniak's Light Opera
company had played at I respect it, I do. There's
opera singers are the most talented people on the planet.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Light opera good. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding them.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
They had done a show in the Los Alamito's Joint
Forces training base. Right, such good light opera there, right,
And he asked Sam if he would come and help
him move some boxes that were up in the attic.
They go up into the attic, that's right, They go
up into the attic. He leans down and Daniel shoots

(36:25):
Sam in the back, and Sam felt it and said, uh,
he didn't realize what had happened. He said, something hit
me it felt like an electric shock, and then Daniel
shot him.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Again and killed him.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Hours later, at the Hunger Artist's Theater Company, he played
the lead in the musical nine What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah, he went from that to a lead just right
on stage.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
He took all that fucking being a sociopath and he
brought it to the people.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Oh my god. Hours later.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
And he was in that play with his fiance Wow,
oh Steven, Sorry, we have pictures of this.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Do you have pictures of that? Yes, that's them in
that play. What I don't know nine?

Speaker 1 (37:15):
That well?

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Is that the one with that song? Nine?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
You're asking someone who can't sing or sit through a musical.
But what's the answer? Yes, okay, what's his Okay?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Go on?

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Sorry? What? Nothing? He was? His girl was his fiancee
on it. That's I think. That's why I said, nevermind,
that's what everybody wants to know telling this story. Yeah,
I get it's cool.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Uh, it's fun to jump ahead, but here because this
is the most horrible part.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
He after he was.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
In that play, then he went back the next day
to the attic where he had left the body and
dismembered it and then left Sam's body parts in Long
Beach Park. Oh yeah. So then shortly after midnight the
next night, he texts Julie Kibuishi with with Sam Harre's

(38:08):
phone and says, I'm having problems with my family. I
need to see you now, please come over now. He
lures Julie to Sam's apartment, murders her there, and stages
it to look like Sam snapped and murdered her and
then ran and then got this boy to start taking
money out of the bank account, like eight hundred dollars

(38:30):
at a time.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
What a fucking bad plan all around, obviously, but insane.
So after his interrogation, uh, he asked if he can
use the phone to call his fiancee. And the thing
that I learned in this I believe it was. It
was an ID channel show. I think it was called

(38:54):
The Perfect Crime, and they taught me that when you
make a phone call not to your lawyer, but to
anybody else in the police station, they can record it.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I mean, yeah, like, I've never been arrested, and I
would expect that to be a thing.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Well, poor poor Daniel didn't know. So he was like,
you can't tell Tim, you can't that backpack, Tim has
you can't give.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
It to the police.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
And she's like, I'm going to give it to the police.
And he's like, well, if you do.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
I'm doomed. And then she did, and.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Inside the backpack was the murder weapon and Sam Hare's
bloody clothes.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah. His trial lasted five days.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
He was convicted by jury in December a first degree
murder for killing both Sam Hare and Julie Kibishi, and
he was given the death penalty.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
And he is now in sam Quinny. Wow, the fucking
death penalty.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, I mean that was rough.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
It's awful. Yeah, let's think about it for a minute.
No eyes on me. All right, Well I cheated, you
know when.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Just let me get that right off this What if
you just start reading your own poetry.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
You're like, look, here's the thing that I wanted to
get to first is that I'm pretty sure there wasn't
paper in the printer when they printed this space because
they're missing a paper, Vince, because what you're missing?

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Okay, okay, Stephen, can you get us page number three?
Stat In the meantime, we just got a very official wave. Oh,
the backstage is all a buzz right now.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Someone's getting fine.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
We're gonna have a staff meeting at the end of
the show. Pacing back and forth, but I can start, Oh, well,
you know what, really quick, can I ask you a
couple of questions about Anaheim?

Speaker 1 (40:59):
No, I mean a revine? No, okay? Should we're just
sitting in silence, No, I can hear it. Okay. So
you know, however, we're all in a true crime, but
we all have these weird like sidebar things that we're
into that have the same thing to do with true crime,
but like are adjacent, like you and I are. First
like friend, conversation was about a car accident, and I

(41:20):
was like, tell me everything, because I'm fascinated by horrible
things happening. In case they happened to me, I'll be ready.
So one of those things for me is this. And
so I found out we were in named Anheim. I
was like, oh good, I can finally share this weird
passion okay with everyone, Oh passion fascination because when I
worked at it, I just used to read this all
the time. And when Snopes came along, I was like,

(41:41):
thank god, because this is the deaths that have happened
at Disneyland.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Really, yes, so scared, Yes, fucking tear those walls down.
Tell us everything those motherfuckers are doing.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
You want to know. I come get pulled off stage
and Minnie a huge mice are coming for us under that. Yeah.
I was really as I came out and I was like,
wait a second, what if they all have good childhood
memories of Disneyland and they're mad at me?

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Look who's here, everybody?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, that's Vince.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Say hi to Vince. That's him.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Do you know what he just said to me?

Speaker 4 (42:25):
What something dirty?

Speaker 5 (42:26):
No?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
He said, you gotta check that shit like backstage, Like
is my fault?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Sorry, he's keeping you real, he's keeping your feet on
the ground busy with a podcast.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Oh oh, and never mind, I'm just not gonna Let's
be friends. Let's all be friends. Let's say first, that's
just two of the first pages.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
You know what this is.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
We are a classy podcast.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
You know, it's hilarious. This is our actual job. Oh
my god, it's how we're paid for a living.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Can you deal? It's very We appreciate, thank you.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
This This is about as thorough.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
As we need to be on this fault. Yeah, this
is our job.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
You're enabling us, all right, and thank you. For that.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I'm so excited because this is like, I fucking love
this shit, and I'm accompany it with some vintage Disneyland photos,
which is my own nice and after that.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
We all got a bust to Disney.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Their corn dogs, you guys. Okay, so you know, uh
so nine guests have been killed on Disneyland attractions since
the park opened and Parked opened in nineteen fifty five.
All the deaths except for two, were the result of
guests who apparently ignored safety instructions and or defeated rides.

(43:43):
Safety m like, it's like they defeated them like they
were superheroes and they're like, ah, you know, like maybe
get better fucking safety mech.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
I mean that sounds like some Disney lawyer bullshit right air.
It sounds like, apparently this child defeated the safety mechanism.
Very strong upper body and a will to die I
be talking about.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
That's exactly it. It's called what do they call it? Spin? Sure?

Speaker 4 (44:09):
All right, wagging the.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Dog, you know, you know? Okay, So here's the first one.
May nineteen sixty four, Mark Maples. He's a fifteen year
old Long Beach resident. We wait, he's killed. I told
you when he tried to stand up on the matterhorn
bob slide. Don't do that. See, this is why fifteen

(44:32):
year old shouldn't be allowed out of the house, because
they fucking do shit, and it's boys especially, and it's
really stupid. I mean, I love him, Mark, we's run
for Congress. I'm sorry, I don't want to. Okay, it sucks,
Maples and unbuckle the seatbelt and attempted to stand up
as the bob sled near the peak of the mountain.

(44:53):
You know, he was like the joker of the class.
Probably what year was it, nineteen sixty four?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Oh yeah, They just didn't get how bad it was
and nothing had happened yet, so they're like, I can
I'm free.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
It is land. Yeah. He lost his balance because probably
because he was standing up on the bobslet on a
fucking roller coaster, thrown from the sled to the track below,
fractured his skull and ribs, caused internal injuries. He died
three days later. So we're off to the races. They're
all gonna die, you guys, just say no, yeah, and

(45:26):
none of them are gonna be like night night.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
It's not gonna be nice sleeping beauty has nothing to do.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
With this story. I went like this as if I
didn't have the rest of the pagetreet. So we're done
with that. I'm just thrown by Vince's shaming me.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Oh, he'll hear about it later and I.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Will bring off and throw it in the mass. No,
well that's a show, okay. June nineteen sixty six, Thomas
Guy Cleveland, a nineteen year old Northridge resident, is killed
when he's attempt He's attempted. Okay, So this dude attempts
to sneak into Disneyland the monorail track. Oh, I know.

(46:04):
It was Grad Night the worst. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I still think about grad night and it hurts my feet.
I hated Grad Night so much and I hated everyone
in that part. Yeah, I was so mad that I
had to stay there and stay awake.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Is it a lock in kind of thing?

Speaker 2 (46:27):
It's a fucking like you just they act like you
want to stay awake all night?

Speaker 4 (46:32):
That dumb.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Oh god, I'm so mad. This is really triggering for Karen,
and I forgot to be respectful. Grad night, damn it
post traumatic Grad Night.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
It's like the thing where it's like anything where like
the first three hours, You're like.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Oh my god, this is gonna be amazing.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
And then the second the fourth hour hits, you're like,
let's stop this now, it sucks. It's not working out
like everyone thought they were gonna fall in love.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
No one's falling in love.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
We all hate each other. Let's go home.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
And then someone climbs over the monorail track. And actually,
when I was when I was like in a senior
in high school, everyone had the Disneyland pass. You know,
it was like twenty dollars back then. It was a
long time ago, really, you eighteen oh seventeen. So people
would you do this thing where you'd get a stamp
and then when you'd get into the park, you'd come
back out and you'd lick the stamp and put it

(47:24):
on someone else's on the back of someone else's hand.
I'm snuck back then, right, And then some kids would
just fucking scale the fence because this is before Disneyland
was like no, it was still like that. Okay, anyways,
all right, grad night sixteen foot high outer fence and
climbed onto the monorail track, intending to jump or climb
down once inside the park, which is like it's like

(47:46):
a monorail. It's like, yeah, it's a monorail.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
It's up high.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, so that's all you need to know about a monail.
That's what I met. Yeah. Yeah. He ignored a security
guards shout warnings of approaching monorail train, failed to leap
clear of the track. He finally climbed down onto a
fiberglass canopy beneath the track, but the clearance wasn't enough.
The oncoming train struck and killed.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Oh you guys were.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Excited a minute ago.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Let's let them process.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
They made the process. Yeah, okay, I've been reading this
since I was twenty six, so since the Internet started,
and I was like, Disney Deaths was the first thing
I ever.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Disney death Wait, can can I do an addendum to
that story?

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Always?

Speaker 2 (48:28):
My favorite story of somebody bumming out of Disneyland is
my sister's friend, Christine Tomasini was a Disneyland with her
family and they were all standing kind of at something
that near a monorail track or no, sorry, those the
ones that are the open Thames Ago other people mover
where you're kind of like looking down, So they were

(48:49):
kind of near a people over and she was just
kind of looking around at the crowd, and there was
a girl that had really big curly hair that she
kind of like noticed, like, whoa, that girl's hair is
really big.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
And then all of a sudden, in one second, the
girl's hair.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Went flat and she was like what and she couldn't
and then she realized someone from the people.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Mover barfed onto that girl's head. Just look just like
buddy Holly.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
It's the idea of a hair like a hair product
commercial for a hair hair straight and they're like, go
from frizzy to plot, but it's like barf.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
And I think she said just totally be me lying
because it don't be better for the story. But I
feel like she said, then the girl barfed, which would
make perfect sense.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Right, let's never happened.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
No, I would barf irof someone barfed on me. Yeah,
it's your duty.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Let'n't make it interesting for everyone around you.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Right, it's called embellishment. Try I'll ask Christine, okay, would
you yes?

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Text or no. August nineteen sixty seven, Ricky Lee Yama,
he's a seventeen year old Hawthorne resident, was killed when
he disregarded safety instructions and exited his people mover car
as the ride was passing through a tunnel, and like
these were oh were we putting foot? Okay, here's the
people mover. Look up. See shit, Oh yeah, isn't it cute? Look?

(50:11):
And I could just step over the thing and get
the fuck off of it.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
So do you think he was he was thinking like
I'm gonna see what's in that cave?

Speaker 3 (50:19):
No.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
I think he was just like goofing around with his
friends and he was going to go to like his
friend's car in the back, you know, kind of you know,
goofing around like seventeen and fifteen year olds too. Yeah,
he slipped as he was jumping from car to car,
crushed to death beneath the wheels of the oncoming car.
I know, okay. June nineteen seventy three, Bogden Dale, Delaureate Yep, yeah,

(50:41):
an eighteen year old Brooklyn resident drowned while trying to
swim across the rivers of America. You know the I
think it's Tom Sawyer's Island now or yeah, I haven't
been there in a while, so it could be like
it's not. It could be like a modern day thing.
I don't know, it's it's just a Dell taco.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Now, oh, we filled up those rivers with ground beef.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
You're going to love it. Caeso is the new thing.
It's an integration. Okay, Well, anyways, he drowned.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
See this show right when you start having fun.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
But we were supposed to warn the newbies. But you've
been worn clearly for the past forty five minutes. Yeah,
I know they're feeling it. So he and his ten
year old brother managed to stay on toms At Island
past its dusk closing time by climbing the fence separating
the island from the settler's cabin. They like hid and
they're like, we're gonna stay, like you know they were
going to spend the nineties. Yeah, and you know, like

(51:40):
how you want to do at the zoo all the time.
That's just me, Oh my god, I want to stay
at the zoo house closing times so far out because
I bet there's so much fun at night. Well, the
nocturnal animals would be right.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
I think everyone else is a sleep, aren't they.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
I know it's so cute though, okay, do do do?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I would like remember that book where there's like the
teens that that they're like homeless teens that hide in
the mall and then they come out at night.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I think it's the I think that's called what's it called? Well, nope,
it was gonna be real funny, it was it. Yeah, wow,
like it's the zombie movie. Thank you. It would not
have been great if I fucking knew things. Say it more,
say more things. By the way, I am want to

(52:34):
say it more, Say more things, say more things out
of your mouth.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
No, I'm not sure. I don't think I was done.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Okay, No, I mean it's just a child's book.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
I won't be able to remember the name.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Of and who gives a ship?

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I've already told ninety five stories.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Okay. They decided, Okay, then they were like, let's not
do this. It's just a stupid idea. Let's swim back.
That's a better idea. So, because the younger brother didn't
know how to swim, I know, Bogden tried to carry
him across as he as he swam, he and Bogman

(53:09):
goes down about halfway across the river, and the young
his brother remained afloat by dog paddling excuse me, jesus,
until that was a burp, until a ride operator hauled
him aboard a boat, but Bogden was nowhere to be found.
They found it the next morning, his body. He's said,
I know there's another one's coming. I ended with don't worry.

(53:31):
I ended with two kind of funny ones, so it'll
be fine.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Not dead.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
No, they're not deaths. They're like two funny things that happened.
You don't know them anything. Just fucking tell your story,
deliver it, okay. The day before I was born, June
seventh of nineteen eighty uh, Girardo Gonzalez, a recent San
Diego High school graduate, was killed on the people Mover
and an incident just like the one that Ricky Lee

(53:56):
Gate had gone through thirteen years earlier. Gerardo, in the
early morning hours of grad night. Cancel grad nights.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Yeah, it's just too dangerous for all of them.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Never let that baby go to grad night. Never. So
he's again climbing from car to cars. The people mover
goes into the super speed tunnel, which is that sounds
like a mistake.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, they were like, oh, someone died on the people mover.
I think we need to put super.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Speed in it.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah, that's probably what would be better, right.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah, And adjacent to the Okay, the former America Sings Building.
I don't know what that's in there. This is why
the America's rivers thing, right. Yeah, he stumbles and falls
into the track. Oncoming train of cars crush him beneath
its wheels. June fourth, nineteen eighty three, Phillips Strogam, an

(54:45):
eighteen year old Albuquerque, New Mexico resident, also drowned in
the rivers of America. And yet another say it with
me Grad night and third.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Grad Night incident.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yep, I'm fucking writing to the Oh, I own, I
almost said, President.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
We don't know right now, we're on our own.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Oh, you know what, I'll ride to the Rock.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
That's what I'll do. That's what I'll do.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
I'll fucking take care of grad night.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Wouldn't that be amazing if the next grad night the
Rock came in and just started fucking beating the shit
out of everybody.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
It's like Santy went around on like a reindows like
Santa Claus the grad night and beating people up. It's
nothing like that's stuffing the Christmas. Never mind, I love it.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
It's Christmas for me.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
What if I just love the idea that that's your
new cause is for everybody.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
No and any other fun activities for seniors. We're shutting
that shit down. They can't handle it. They have to
keep standing up all the time. Oh, I need to
be out here where I'm not supposed to be, says
the seventeen year old boy.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Fucking stop it.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Yeah, agreed. So he and a friend and they've been
drinking quite heavily, and they snuck onto cast members only
area along the river and cast members killed them.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Sorry, that was highly inappropriate, and I apologize to everybody.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I'm really sorry that was wrong.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
But I just pinch your tigger killing them.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Have they seen the video where the like I think
it's Pluto loses his shit. His kid keeps fucking yanking
on his tail, and he just turns around and starts
chasing the kid. The kids like the kid's like, clearly
a class bully until Pluto turns around and turns on him,
and the kid just loses his shit. It's funny because

(56:40):
the kid's clearly a brat before him. In no way
want children to be harmed. Don't be upset, Baby'll be
upset baby anyway. Okay, So they untieing inflatable rubber maintenance
rode or mope untied up inflatable rubber maintenance motor boat.
Thank you all, you got it. Deciding to take a
very joy right around the river. They're shockingly not trained

(57:03):
in this, and they're unable to adequately control the boat
and they struck a rock near tom Sawyer Island. Philip's
thrown into the water. His friend goes back to shore
to seek help, and Philip drowns long before his body
was located an hour later. Well that would make sense.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, don't really get to locate his body and then
they let him drown after that.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Yeah, I didn't this. This is Snopes, right, and you
know together Snopes Journalists January third, nineteen eighty four. Dolly
Ray and young A pardon, yes, sorry, you are loving.
I mean spot kive here. I've gone off the wagon.

(57:57):
She's a forty eight year old Fremont resident, California. She's
killed on the matterhorn. Stop clapping. I didn't pause for clapping.
She's killed on the matter horn again. So here's the thing,
similarly similar to the first matter horn. What you just said,
she's killed on the mate horn again. I meant like again,

(58:18):
like the guy like this guy got yep, we know,
but it's still funny. Oh, I got it. I don't
need to explain it, you can just laugh.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Okay, she john snowed that shit came back, and then
the matterhorn killed her again.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Okay, About two thirds the way down the mountain, Dolly's
thrown from her seat into the path of an oncoming
bob sled. She comes pin beneath its wheels. So they
examined her sled because here's the thing. No one was
in the seat with her, you know how. Usually it's
like two people per seat, and so she was alone
in the seat. So they were like, well, we don't

(58:54):
know if she unfastened the seatbelt or if it malfunctioned,
so she probably it probably wasn't there is there, know
what I mean? Yeah? Where It's like, but how many
forty eight year old women do we know that are
on the bobs let her like it's a joint? Yes, No,
but that's why you don't let seventeen year old boys.
I'm not forty eight year old.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Women forty eight year old when are like, I've finally
got to be me. Yeah, fucking leave the matter horn
halfway through.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
No, I'm gonna make my kids lap no bro dude,
bro dude. Yeah, it was funny. Yeah, I'm gonna high
five that. What's the monster that's there? Yeady? Thanks guys,
all right? December twenty the monster you know, yeady that's
in there? Sure alright. December twenty fourth, nineteen ninety eight.

(59:43):
In a tragic Christmas Eve accident, one Disneyland cast member
and two guests were injured. Okay, this is the one
I have nightmares about. Okay. A rope that's used to
secure the sailing ship Columbia as it's docked at the
rivers of America. You know, the one that goes around
it was. It was an inelastic hemp rope designed to

(01:00:04):
break easily. It was improperly replaced for financial reasons by
an elastic nylon rope which stretched toward the cleat from
the ship's wooden hull. Oh fuck, I hate this. The
cleat sails through the air and strikes the heads of
two guests who were waiting to board the ship. Luan
Fee Dawson, who's thirty three, of Duval Washington and his wife,

(01:00:28):
Lou Thai Jong forty three, and Dawson. Dawson's declared brain
dead two days later and dies when his life support
system is disconnected, and you fucking I have nightmares about that,
and now you all will too.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Also, here's what I have nightmares about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
It's nineteen ninety eight and Disney is using cheaper rope
to cause they have to scrimp and say that Disneyland,
are you fucking keating me?

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Yeah? Well, at this point, the accident results in the
first guest death in Disneyland's history that was not attributed
to any negligence on the part of the guest that
they're telling us about, and prompted a movement for greater
government oversight of theme park operations and safety procedures, because
there was like they were just like there you go.
And then at one point they were like, no, wait,

(01:01:18):
they're like airplanes and all the you know these things
that we need to regulate like airplanes. I don't know.
There were other things that I can't remember what the airplanes,
like trains, trains, airplanes.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
There, automobiles.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Right, it's the natural progression, you know what, Let's not
rely on the company that was started by a anti
Semitic to police themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I mean, it seems like if he's going to buy
cheap rope. Yeah, he's not going to give that much
of a shit about anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
They got the victims. Survivors brought in a lawsuit and
settled for They settled for twenty five million dollars. Yeah
it could have been more, you know, and they could
have spent that money on hemp rope. I mean silon rope,
you cheap bastards. Yeah. On June twenty fifth two, a
twenty two year old woman from Spain exited the Indiana

(01:02:10):
Jones Ride. I don't know why I'm pointing at you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Excuse you know?

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I love that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
That big boulder comes at you. You're like what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
So she exits the Indiana Jones Ride and I put
this in there, even though it's not really listed. She's
complaining of a severe headache. She's hospitalized a day later,
and later that day she's hospitalized, and later that day
it was discovered that she had a brain hemorrhage and
said it was because of the jostling of the ride.
She died in September first two thousand of cerebral aneurysms,

(01:02:39):
and the victims' medical costs were estimated on more than
one point three million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
On September fifth, two thousand and three, a twenty two
year old man, Marcello Torres of Guardinia, California, died and
several other guests were injured when a locomotive separated from
its train along the tunnel section of Big Thunder Mountain. No,
and here's the Yeah, I got barfed on that ride.
I don't want to tell you guys. Why not. I

(01:03:06):
don't know, it's gross. We love hearing all that shit. Yeah,
someone and we were going around. It was my ex
and I and I was like a first ride there
and it was so fun, like we're going around the
corner and someone in the front barfed and all of
us Yeah, and then we had to stay on the
ride for the rest of the time. And everyone on
the rest is like, my god, yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Disneyland's like, it will cost too much money to end
the ride now, Yeah, we hope to for efficiency's sake
and financial game.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah, and I broke up pretty quickly later.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
No relationship. We can with stand being barfed up like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
You can't look at each other again.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
And I know there's a comic and I wish I
could remember her name because she's so funny. She's a
New York comic, and she tells this fuck an amazing
story of being at a New York County fair when
she was like eight years old, and it was in
the late sixties and you or whenever before Judy Garland died.
And Judy Garland was there with e Liza Minelli and

(01:04:06):
her other daughter sorry me, and and they went onto
one of those rides that that spinning thing that then
turns and starts spinning like that. And so this guy
I wish I could remember name, she basically got in
line with the Garlands, the Garland Minelli's just so she
could get on the ride faster. Just she looked like

(01:04:26):
she blended in and they got onto the ride, and
then as it started, Judy Garland started barfing and they all.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Got splashed with Judy Garlands barf on that ride.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
I mean, it's it's collector's item for sure, but.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Okay, yeah, anyways, so loads of the new podcast barf stories.
Sorry Local Motives separated from its train along a tunnel
tunnel section of Big Higher Mountain Railroad. He to death
after suffering blunt force trauma, and the cause of the

(01:05:03):
accident was determined to be improper maintenance, so this is
the other not his fault. One. Investigation reports and discovery
by the victim's attorney confirmed that the fatal injuries occurred
when the first passenger car collided with the underside of
the local motive.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Local motive, I mean it's from here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Yeah, all right, So those are the ones that have
happened so far. Let's hope they're the only ones that
ever happen. Don't take your seatbelt off ever, What is happening?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
It sounds like there's a giant pounding on the outside
of the building.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
It's so Walt Disney, is it him? Yeah? Fuck, we're sorry,
we animated. We're sorry, you cheap bastard. All right. So
there's the two that aren't murders, so death, so we
all feel better. August sixth, nineteen seventy. And my dad
told me this when I was a kid, and it
made me so happy. Seven hundred and fifty quote and

(01:05:54):
this is how it's written. Hippies and quote radical yippies.
They used to call them worse than hippie. Yeah. Infiltrated
the park and took over the wilderness sport, which I
think is which is now the Tom Sawyer situation. They
raised the Vietcong flag. Whoa and pass reefers out to passerby.

(01:06:15):
Shit girl, they were like, they took it over. What's wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Nothing?

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
See shaming me still backstage?

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
No, you paranoid lunatic. My head turned to the side.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Scare listen that loves listen to me. A platoon of
Anaheim officers in full right. You're poured into the park
from the backstage areas to get them the fuck out
of their seven hundred and fifty.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
Yeah, that's a shit ton.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Yeah. And then so much pot in Disneyland. Yeah, like
what is that? It smells like a skunk money?

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
What's a many?

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
I'm all right. And finally, on New Year's Day at
twenty thirteen, a rider in the front row of the
called California screaming.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
You, oh yeah, that's a big roller coaster.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Roller roller coaster. Here he goes. He's hit in the
face by an seagull. No injuries were reported. Oh oh
we didn't die. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I was like, that's the saddest one of all to
go out by seagull.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
I know, yes, poor seagulls, Like what the fuck, I'm
just trying to go down this roller coaster trying to
fly over this park. Oh my god, that's awesome. Yeah,
that's that's Disneyland X. That is Disneyland X. Thank you. Well.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Yeah, it's a time to do a hometown murder.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
It's time to hometown I think there's an open mic somewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Hold on, let's be reasonable.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Let's have somebody didn't stand up with a piece of
paper in their hand, point at themselves and then.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Go to the bathroom when I got picked. That's fucking the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Shaving you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
What's your name?

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Catherine? Have a panic attack right here?

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
You can around the house sides down, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Thanks for ma'am, but probably not.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
That was tell me your name again, Catherine? You have
one of those, Catherine, Catherine, Yes, Katherin where you from?

Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
Originally from Montana? But I live in Coasta, Masonel. Yeah,
I live like a mile from Camden Martinique several times.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Is that pretty great? No? But that story really freaked
me out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Yeah it is crazy, right, Yeah, but you can't read.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:08:42):
I didn't know how many drinks I would have before this,
so IPEd.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
It up just in case. OK, can you do it
off the top of your head? I think so, and
then I'll check your work.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Can I just say that this is why I stopped
drinking for the before the show, so I didn't have to.
I don't know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
I get it, so I respect your control.

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
I don't have a great hometown murder, but my best
friends or my cousins, and they have an amazing hometown murder.
And they told me if I had the opportunity to
get up on stage, I had to tell their story.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
I had a second hand. Can do it like seventh
pent I don't give a shit.

Speaker 6 (01:09:17):
Yeah, So my cousins in nineteen ninety five, my cousins
were thirteen and ten and they lived in Awa Tuki, Arizona,
which was right outside of Phoenix. Shit, and their mom
worked as a maid for a family called the Bach family,
and they were really wealthy and they had a huge
house and she just worked there every day as a maid.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
I think that's loco.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
Okay, sorry, I'm not used to holding up my girphone.
Come on, take a class.

Speaker 6 (01:09:48):
So they became really close to the family and mister Bach,
the dad asked them to move into the house and
be like a full time housekeeper. But the mom had
some weird feelings about him about the family, so it
never happened, but that was kind of always happening. They
were always asking them to move in. Julia, my cousin,
who was thirteen, became really good friends with the son, Jeremy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
They went to the middle school together.

Speaker 6 (01:10:13):
He was a year older than her, and they would
walk home from school every day to Jeremy's house and
hang out there while her mom was cleaning, and then
she would just go home with her mom at the
end of the day. And she said Jeremy was kind
of a weird guy. He would always tell like dirty
jokes around her and just do like weird fourteen year old.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Kind of things.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
But she said, she said he was kind of hot.
He looked like a young Matt Dylan.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Oh my fucking god, give Karen a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Picture.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Here's do one dumb joke, and I'll tell.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
You what I would have acted like around this person.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Okay, just to do a bad joke. Karen her hair, My.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
God, sorry.

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
Yeah, so she was willing to overlook some of the
weird things. Hell yeah, because he was careful. Another weird
thing about the family is that they had guns stashed
all over the house. That they would find them under
the couch and in the kitchen cabinets and all over
the place.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
So it was kind of a red flag.

Speaker 6 (01:11:19):
And their mom said one day when she was cleaning
the house, there was red spots on the walls that
she cleaned off, and she said they were definitely not
spaghetti stains, so she wasn't sure what they were.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Oh so well, then complete him right off, then.

Speaker 6 (01:11:33):
Ye, So lots of red flags, but they were close
to the family, so they still you know, worked for
them and hung out the house. Then one day, the
fourteen year old Jeremy was arrested for the murder of
his spread a friend, Brad Hanson, and Brad had been
missing for two months at that point. He Jeremy was
originally questioned when Brad went missing, and he had told

(01:11:58):
investigators that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
They had skipp school the day that.

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
Brad went missing, and they had hung out at their
house and we're playing with a gun and it went
off in Brad's hands, and that he panicked and rode
away on his bicycle. So police for two months were
investigating as a missing person's case or like a runaway case.
Didn't think anything weird had happened. But then two months later,
right before the arrest happened. Uh, some trash collector, is

(01:12:25):
that the right term? Trash collectors, garbage men.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Garbage men, trash collectors PC, sanitation workers, that's a station.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
Garbage person, doesn't ryan.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
No sanitation worker. Sanitation worker.

Speaker 6 (01:12:41):
Sanitation worker came by the back house on their weekly
pick up, and they noticed that the trash can outside
the boack house was covered in blood, and it raised
some red flakes for him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
I mean, one would hope.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
And he called the cops who came and investigated, and
they determined that blood belonged to Brad Hansen. So they
interrogated Jeremy a second time to find out what happened,
and he told them that he had lied the first time,
and that what actually happened was that they had skipped
school and were playing with the gun in the house
and that it had gone off in his hands and
he had accidentally shot Brad in the chest and killed him,

(01:13:19):
and that Brad had bled out, and then after he
had died, he'd put Brad's body into a trash bin,
which he put on the curb and the trash the
sanitation workers took away the next day and never to
be heard from again. But the cops did not believe
his story because they said that it would have taken

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Brad nearly an hour to die after the shot, and
so he Jeremy never went for help. So it was
pretty obvious that it was intentional shooting. So they had
a few theories. They thought that maybe it was intentional
and that the boys have been arguing about a girl that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
They both had dated. That was possible.

Speaker 6 (01:14:01):
There's also some speculation at the time that Jeremy's father
had helped him dispose of the body.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
It was kind of an ongoing thing.

Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
And then my cousin did tell me that there was
a rumor that went around the Junior High that the
police dogs had picked up brad scent and followed it
to the backyard of Jeremy's house, and they believe that
maybe he was fed to their German shepherds.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
That's that's Junior High.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Yes, totally Junior High.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Rimmer, come on it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:27):
Yeah, So so that's just all speculation. But there Julia
and Chrissy's mom did definitely clean up the crime scene.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
It did happen in the kitchen unknowingly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Yeah, she had no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
So she said she was in there when the cops
did the luminol test and they had her point out
where all the blood spots were that she had cleaned up,
and she said when they turned that black light on.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
That the whole kitchen lit up. Oh my blood God.

Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
So unfortunately, Brad's body was never recovered. They think that
it was probably taken to the landfill, but by the
time they had all this information it was two months later,
so there's no way they could ever have found him.
So eventually, Jeremy is put on trial for second degree murder,
and some funny things happened to my cousin during this time. Well,

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Jeremy was on trial, his parents were pretty wealthy and
they got him out on bail. And at that time
he called my cousin and asked her up for a
date and her mother allowed her to go and they
went bowling. Oh my god, I love bowling.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
He had great jokes.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
And when I asked my cousin about this this week,
to make sure I had all the facts right just
in case I got up here, I was like, what
the help was your mother thinking, like that's insane, And
she's like, what the fuck? I know, Like I realized
that now I was totally messed up. So he was
brought up on trial for a second degree murder. He
was found guilty and sentenced to twenty two years in prison.

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And at the time that he was sentenced, he was
only fifteen years old, so he was the youngest. I
don't know if he still is, but back then he
was definitely the youngest person in Arizona history to ever
be convicted as an adult.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:16:18):
And so there was a lot of media that happened
around it, a media frenzy that happened around this trial.
And one of the things that happened to my cousin
was that she was driving.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
With her mom.

Speaker 6 (01:16:28):
I don't know if he's past the courthouse or past
past the box house, but there's reporters outside and they
flagged down the car and knocked on the windows and
they were yelling inside like can we ask you some questions?
And my cousin at the time had a really short
pixie haircut, so she kind of looked like a boy,
and they're like, Jeremy, Jeremy, can we get some information
from men? We asked you a question and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
They thought he was she's him. Oh God.

Speaker 6 (01:16:52):
High school sucks, and her mom got deeply offended by
this and she rolled down her windows and she's like,
that's my daughter, you asshole fed away.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Oh my god, that's amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:17:04):
And so he went to prison for twenty two years.
He was sentenced in I think January of ninety eight.
And once he got to prison, count check, Yep, you
did it. Every single word has been perfect so far.

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I'm not very good at winging it, so.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
I think you are. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
Once he got to prison, my cousin thought this was
all over and she never had to think about it again.
But then she started receiving love letters from prison. This
just gets better and better. And Jeremy was asking her
if she'd marry him, and she said it really creeped
her out because you would always call her my baby.

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And she said the best part about it all was
that he said at one point he asked her if
she had been hassled by anybody in school for being
his friend, and he said, give me their names, because
I'll totally kick their asses.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
And she's like, big done. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:05):
She's like, I don't think the weight of all this
trial stuff has like really gotten to him yet, because
he's not going to get out of prison for twenty
two years.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Yeah, middle school will be a distant memory.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Everyone else will be I'm like, oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
So she said, it's like a total distant memory, like
it's not something that she really ever thinks about. But
I looked it up this week because I was coming
here to the show, and I realized that twenty two
years of a sentence means he's going to be out
in two years. And so I asked Julia if she
felt worried if he would get out, if he's held

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a candle for her for all these years or what.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
And she's not worried at all.

Speaker 6 (01:18:45):
But I'm like, got to lock your doors.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Yeah, but her mom let her go on a date
with the murderers, so.

Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
Like it's probably the last day he had before prison, right,
like you know, just got to follow all the murdering
no rules, yeah, and not get murdered.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
How does he look though?

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Just good it You did amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
That was so good.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Off the paper.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Great job, so good. It's so good a paper back
here you good at that scrap book that away? Thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
That was so awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
That was great.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Oh my god, you guys, guys, thank thank you so much, Anna,
and I'm thank you for making our first Orange County
show so great. I was a little nervous. I'm not
gonna lie. I peeled off all of this nail polish
because I was nervous, not my middle finger. So thank
you for making my hometown for a show fucking awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
Yes, that's a good feeling, right, that is a good feeling.
That was great.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Yeah, this I feel like this crowd is kind of
one of the best we've ever had, just like honestly,
so it makes me happy when people like comedy. It's
so much more fun and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
They're not mad at you. No, thank you guys again.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Also just we joke about it, but like you because
you guys listening, tell your friends to listen and support
us so much.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
We get to do this for a living and it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Is so fucking fun and we really really appreciate it
so much, so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
We love it, love it so exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Yeah, so stay sexy and jump