March 3, 2025 • 22 mins
This week’s hometowns include a trash kid and visiting a Jack the Ripper museum.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
That's Georgia Hertstart.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
That's Karen coul Gariff.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
This is the Ministry. I did the wrong line.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's okay, we got there.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
In the end, it feels like the idea that we
don't introduce ourselves from Minnesota is really it's very casual.
It's like we're off the clock.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, and you guys know it's presumptuous and yet familiar.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And yet you're like, oh, these bitches.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm not doing it again. I fucking know who these
bitches are. Why don't you go first?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okay, starting off with a classic murdering my grandfather's laundromat,
classic hometown while visit outside Hi. While visiting my parents
over the holidays, the topic of true crime came up.
My mom out of nowhere, said, you know, someone was
murder at your grandpa's laundromat. I got, and then it says,
do go on. Mom. Here's what she told me. One
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day in nineteen eighty eight. She and her family were
sitting around the breakfast table when there came a startling
knock at the door. Three suits, as she called them,
flashed badges and pushed their way inside. My grandpa was
taken into police custody. He was the suspect of a murder.
Early that morning, the body of a young woman had
been discovered on a back road outside of our little
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midwest farming townly so scary. Yeah, you're in a place
that's like always quiet, there's not a lot going on totally,
and then a, I mean, that's the beginning of so
many movies. Horrible. Also discovered was a huge pull of
blood trailing out the door of our family's laundromat. Whoa.
According to my mom, the victim was known to spend
a lot of time at the laundromat. Another man was
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known to spend a lot of time there as well, who,
according to small town gossip, had a thing for her.
That guy was tracked down by police at a car wash.
And then this is italicized and bolded, literally cleaning blood
out of his car. Can you say caught red handed?
Here's a quote directly from the case files. That's some
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serious work. Quote. Police then approached him, told him he
was not under arrest, and indicated that they wanted to
talk to him about the murder. At that point, the
defendant told police that quote Monday was a bad day.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
End quote. So obviously, my grandfather was very quickly dropped
as a suspect. The man never admitted to the crime
and appealed his case several times, but was sentenced to
life in prison. Word around town is that he killed
several people. That was just the one murder he got
caught for. Yeah, there are a lot of details I'd
love to add, but I'll leave you with this. Forensic
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investigation was complicated because it became apparent that someone unidentified
had been in the crime scene after the murder and
before it was discovered by the police.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh no.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
This person was later discovered to be a lady from
town on who had come in to do laundry and
didn't tell anyone about the blood because quote that wasn't
any of my business. End quote. Girl. And then it
just says, thanks guys, no name.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Wow, man, Like chilling detail, right, but you'd walk in.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I'm just have no emotions about it, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Or whatever the emotions that you have about it, there's
something else in you that says getting involved is dangerous
or bad for me, or something that it's like not
an option, but it's almost like it makes sense to say,
it's none of your business. If you were walking by
outside and looking in, right, you step inside, you're part
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of the crime scene.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, you're in.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Twenty twenty five. All of us step in ors need
to know that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Totally. Wow, you're in it.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Your DNA puts you in it.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
That's right. That's a crazy one.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, all right, let's do it when eighty Okay, this
is called trash kid that time I committed fraud. Dear ladies,
you heard the trash dad stories. You know all about
the trash uncles and the trash moms. But what if
I told you I was a trash kid and a
criminal to boot?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, I'm sorry, but first of all, hell, yes, what
were we thinking not asking for this from the beginning
trash kids? Because my favorite trash kid of all time
is the very i think year one story of the
little boy who rode around on his bicycle chopping down,
chopping down telephone poles with a fucking chainsaw.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, that got turned into an MFM animated like one
of the first MFM animated.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And also by a listener artist, got turned into a
pin that was giving me at a live show that
I have and carry around with me to this day.
It was like for me high art.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, I was really well done, unbelievably beautiful. Okay, so
send us your trash, trash trash kid a story. Yes,
whether it's from you or sibling, we want.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
To know, please, everything you did that got you got
caught and in trouble for and then some.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Okay, so picture it. Northern Vermont circa nineteen ninety nine.
My parents were a part of a Friday night bowling
league at this point, and they got six years old
and rather than pay a babysitter, my parents dragged me
along to.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Sit at the bowling alley until late in the night.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Okay, of course they did their fault.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, the bowling alley had a huge arcade, and little
me loved basking in the flashing lights of the kid casino. However,
we didn't often have enough money for the arcade. All
the money was earmarks for beer and pizza obviously.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I and the other kids were delegated to simply looking
at the games and pretending that we were playing them,
which is the thing I forgot completely.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Just pretending that you're playing them.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, because they're doing they're showing you what could happen
right in the video game, and you were just pretending
that you're trying.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
To practice, especially on Centipede, right.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
When you had lost all your money already playing fucking
pac Man.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Like we'd usually get a dollar four quarters, so that's
four four try which has gone in a flash. Yes,
I mean, especially when you're like bad for us, they
were literally the newest thing there was, so we're just like,
how do you control this suentipeece.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I've always been bad at them.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
That was not enough, So a small group of us
hatched a diabolical plan that would get us all the
quarters we could ever want. And it seemed like such
an easy solution. We were cute adults love cute kids, right,
would adults just give cute kids money?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
They needed a reason. Sick kids, that's it. We needed
them to give us money to help sick kids.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
If you hadn't figured out our grand planned, it was
to stand near the entrance to the bowling alley and
tell people as they entered that we were raising money
for the local children's hospital.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Oh my.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Over the course of roughly two hours, we had hoodwinked
enough people to get almost eighty dollars in donations.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
That is so many fucking quarters. It was all going
according to plan until it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It turns out some of these adults had been talking
with the manager about the cute little philanthropists at the
front entrance, and the manager had no idea what they
were talking about. Long story short, our parents were pulled
from their games and I didn't see the sun for weeks.
I also was dressed down by my mom, Becky Don't
you dare call her Rebecca, who both instilled the fear
of God in me and made me see the error
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of my ways. She was a small woman, but she
made up for that with sheer volume and by being
an absolute badass who raised six kids in a blended home.
We lost her in twenty twenty three to a mixture
of throat cancer and COPD don't smoke kids. Her loss
has been the most profound of my life. Up until
she lost the ability to speak, she was the person
I called every day on my way home from work.
(07:42):
I told her everything. She was one of my biggest
advocates when I came out as trans. She was my
favorite person. I honestly don't think i'd be a fraction
of the person I am today Without her, stay sexy
and hug your mom. She may just save you from
a life of crime. Ada, she her Ada.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You know that was one of my favorite stories. Just
but you deserved everything Becky brought to you and more.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, Katie Box, like she had.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Becky had be a little proud, I mean secretly because
also I just I'm assuming what they were a handful
of kids, five kids, Yeah, like they would have been
just golden and that that arcade all night long, Like
who wants candy Moore candy? Yeah, I'll goo at candy machine.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Corn dogs, corndogs all around.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It almost feels like if you get past the finish line,
you get to keep the money and then you're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Right, They didn't say what happened to the money.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Also, how cute were these kids that without a bucket
or any signage, They're just like they got it, they
did it. I don't know, I'm on the kid's side.
The subject line of this email is my visit to
the Jack the Ripper Museum in London. So you and
I haven't talked about the fact that they are claiming
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that they have solved the murder case.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Jack the Ripper. What are I just said, Jack the Murder.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you mind if I don't pay attention while I'm
talking during this one? Is that okay?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Necessary? Yeah, we'll talk about it. I'm I'm skeptical, me too,
so let's wait until.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's I'm also skeptical because, oh, by the way, back.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
On TikTok, people were telling me how to tell you
to get off back on it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean, God, God, bless our listeners. Who I got
so many messages on Blue Sky like, but one of
the first things I saw was someone that was talking
about that and how it's like, oh, okay, so just
this apron or whatever that's been sitting there for years
and anyone could touch interesting. We should talk about that?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah we will.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Should we do like a retro style and just do
a one subject Jack the Ripper episode?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You could retell the whole story.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Mm hmm okay, it says hi, ladies, an all MFM
family pretty much a day one listener and a second
time writer. Thank you so much for getting me through
a lot of time in the hospital over the last
few years, having multiple surgeries for ometrio so rough. I've
lived just outside of London. My whole life. But somehow
I didn't know until recently that there was a Jack
the Ripper Museum. Did you know that?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But why wouldn't there be? Like it makes sense?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And also why didn't I go there when I was
so smart trying to cover direct the Ripper woman oh
the time? I mean, why wouldn't there be? Is that
what you just said? Yeah, because that's what this email says. Sorry.
My son is also a murderingo at the age of fourteen,
and he's studying law and criminology. So when I was
looking for days out for us to do together, we
were both excited to discover this little gem of a museum.
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It's set in a townhouse type building over four floors
and close to the Tower of London and to the
Ripper's hunting grounds. There are sections dedicated to the victims,
the suspects, and reconstructions of one of the crime scenes
and of what the Ripper's living room may have looked like,
where you can hunt for clues as to his identity.
We were absolutely in our element. Some of the best
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things we saw were the letters written to the police
from Jack the Ripper, and also the whistle used by
one of the policemen who found the body of Catherine ETOs.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, that's that would be so creepy and fascinating to
see the reconstruction of a crime scene that of those murders. God. Okay,
I would have loved to have done the walking tour too,
but those cobbled streets don't go well with my wheelchair.
Your idea for a virtual walking tour is perfect for me. Great, Yeah,
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I love that. Just as an extra fact, the town
I live in used to house the asylum that Aaron Kazinski,
one of the suspects who's the suspect they think they've
identified through DNA, spent his final days. It is now
a park that is supposedly haunted.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's the hauntedest park in park Land.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I mean a haunted park though, where it's like we're
the ghosts from the building that used to be here.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
We're still here. You knock the building down, but get.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Off my bench. Yeah I hate squirrels. Okay. Also, my
husband works for the Freemasons, and I like to joke
that his employers are the reason Jack the Ripper was
never caught. As ATGM and keep trying to solve the
Ripper mystery Sarah.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
She her Sarah must have written that before this DNA
stuff came out.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean, if Sarah's a Day one listener and a
second time writer, this could easily be from nineteen ninety
seven and we just don't realize it.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Wow, Okay, we're gonna have to get into that. Yeah,
all right.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
This one's called Glitchen the Matrix slash Instant Karma, and
I love it because I love those Glitch and the
Matrix stories.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Hi, ladies.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
This story was buried deep in the recesses of my
sleep deprived brain, but it came rushing back to me
while listening to a recent hometown. It was the early
two thousands. I was a junior in high school. My
friend and I were enjoying some chicken nuggets at Wendy's
across town. It's just the kind of crazy shit me
and my bag girl crew used to get up to
in high school. Just kidding, we were nerds. When a
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somewhat disheveled woman came rushing into the restaurant. She scanned
the place and came over to our table. This woman
launched into a long story about how her car run
out of gas just before the exit, and she had
to abandon it, but she didn't have any money to
buy gas because she left her wallet at home, and
can we please give her some spare change so she
could buy some gas, just enough to get her back
to her house. My friend shot me a skeptical look.
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I peeked in my wallet, hesitated for a moment, then
handed over my.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Last five dollar bill.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
The woman looked shocked that her story worked question mark
and said, oh no, that's too much. And I said,
well that's all I've got. Besides, that's not much gas.
Thank you so much. I'll come right back once they
get my wallet. I'll pay you back. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I shrugged.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
It's good karma. My friend rolled her eyes as the
woman walked out. I bet she doesn't even have a car.
You got played? Yeah, probably, I thought. The next day
at school, I was packing up my things after a
play rehearsal. I picked up my backpack from the auditorium
seat to find a crisp five dollar bill sitting under it. Now,
mind you, these were the auditorium seats that fold up
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if there's nothing holding them down, like in a movie theater. Yeah,
so this had to have been placed very carefully under
my backpack.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I looked around in disbelief.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I even called my friend to ask if she snuck
the money under there, but she had no idea what
I was talking about. Quick turnaround for that karma, I guess.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Just was there.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
And there's probably no way that women knew where they were,
no where they went to school or anything.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
And it was a scam probably, which is fine, but
like it just happened, like maybe she put her bag
down earlier, the exact same I know, and it's crisp wild.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, like someone went to the bank.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Just just fucking happened.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
A couple decades later, I now work as an emergency
room doctor. Every day, I know people in desperate circumstances,
some of which they share with me and some things
they don't. I have a few minutes to try and
gain the patient's trust. When it goes well, it can
be incredibly rewarding. When it doesn't. I try to remind
myself that you don't need to know or understand a
person's whole story to act with kindness, and that kindness
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will usually make its way back to you. Thank you
for the incredible stories you share every week. This podcast
has accompanied me on countless drives to and from the
er and stroller walks with my baby and toddler, and
it says see sleep deprivation reference above. The work you
do to help humans understand each other is important, and
I am grateful whenever I can listen, stay sexy and
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trust in karma.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Victoria.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Victoria an emergency room doctor telling us that are work.
I know, what the fuck? Come on?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
A lovely message.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Also, just that's such a hard job, emergency room. It's
like it's the kind of thing where it's like you
have a job where it's the emotional equivalent of somebody
that will every night, right when you're at your most
to sleep, open your bedroom door and starts screaming. Right.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I mean it makes buck in TV shows about it.
It's like there's no drama TV shows.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
There's yeah, it's no reason that is like that is
the ultimate drama.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It's called er. It's like, that's how hard it.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
God, that was a good show, So good thanks Victoria.
The subject line of the emails kind of cute ghost story.
Question mark in parentheses.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Cute ghost story.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, it says, hello, all animals included. I'm pretty new
here and have just started listening to the podcast a
few months ago. Of course, from the beginning, as I
don't want to feel excluded from inside jokes. We got
to tell you all these jokes are just repeating. There's
nothing inside that's confusing.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, but it could be fun.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Well yeah, I mean, definitely start from the beginning. But okay,
so even though it's been a while since you guys
have talked about ghosts, or at least up until episode
to sixty three eight.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Oh my god, we have so many fucking we got
we gotta pause like this podcast so that people can
catch up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, that's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Take a few months off. Yeah, everyone catch up. Yeah,
we'll meet you back here.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Because we just keep adding and it's too many.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I know, it's really hard. It seems like we should
go on vacation.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Wait, that's why we did the rewind episodes, right.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yes, exactly. That's good to help people catch up. That's
why to access that easier. Okay, A few weeks ago,
I witnessed something ghost related. I knew I had to
share with you, So here I go. It was a
Friday night and we were home alone at my best
friend's house. We were pretty baked and had the munchies,
so we headed to the kitchen to look for snacks.
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As we did that, we never stopped talking. We talked
for what felt like hours, and then all of a sudden,
we stopped. What could have been a comfortable silence was
actually much weirder. The kitchen door, which was almost shut,
opened in a manner that only a gentle hand on
the other side coming into the kitchen could have opened.
I must have looked clearly disturbed as my friend looked
at me and said, don't worry, it's my great grandma.
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I asked her to please be clearer, as my weed
induced paranoia was about to kick in, and she proceeded
to explain that the apartment we were currently in was
where her great grandma used to live up until she
passed away.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Holy shit, Ever.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Since my friend has been living there, there's always doors
shutting or opening, just like that day, as if she
were still walking perfectly alive around the house. As it's hers,
they just say hello and let her do her thing.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Even though I own almost through up out of fear,
this story made me feel better. Plus, I've always felt
welcomed there and the lady had great taste in furniture.
Days after that, I remembered something my own grandma used
to say when we were all talking and conversations would
suddenly end at the same time. I'm not going to
pronounce this correctly because I don't speak Spanish, but I'm
going to attempt passo oun on hell, which is an
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angel passed by. So that comforted me too in a way.
I mean, at least it's an angel and not anything else.
Right now that I've written it down, it sounds way
less scary than I actually felt it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I get it. It's like explaining a dream to someone
that you don't get it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
They say, so just try to remember the whole thing
was happening while being high, which made it a thousand
times scarier. But it is eerie because when things like
that happen, if it was just kind of like a
weird you know, the wind or something that has a
feel to it, but a door just kind of very
slowly opening.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, for no reason.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
To wrap it up, I'd like to say, I've always
been the freak about murders and crime in my face
family and groups of friends, and then I really feel
at home listening to you guys, wish you all the best.
Julieta from Uruguay and then run the season says pretty
fucking far away.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
We feel at home here too, and the house is
haunted for sure. Whatever home?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
This is right? That great grandma is strolling around trying
to be like girls, Do you have to smoke that
much pot? Or can we make cookies and do some
arts and crafts?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Oh? That was good.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Okay, My last one is short. Okay, I'm not going
to tell you the name of it. It just starts.
I just listened to the Hometown about a listener bumping
into Aretha Franklin, and I have to tell you about
the time I spilled a drink on Jane Goodall.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh my god, wait, are you a monkey?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I was a PhD student studying chimpanzees and was attending
my first major conference, and Jane Goodall, obviously an icon,
was the keynote speaker.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I was also like twenty two and new to wine.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
At the reception after a Goodall's keynote, I was holding
a glass of red wine someone had handed me and
trying to make small talk with big name scientists. Hello
imposter syndrome. When I turned around to grab a bacon wrap,
trimp or something equally exciting for a broke grad student
from a passing waiter. But alas, right behind me was
Jane Goodall, and my drink went all caps everywhere. My
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only consolation is that because of Jane Goodall's prosapagnosia, which
is the inability to recognize faces, she will never know
it was me. Nice, don't call me out, just call
me e ssdgm E prosopagnosia. Prosopagnosia.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, yeah, you say that all the time. Rosso pagnosia.
I feel like because I it's just a coincidence. I
just saw a clip of Jane Goodall and her team
releasing a chimpanzee I believe, into the wild, and she
seems like interest in this clip. Yeah, so incredibly serious
and like kind of like it's I feel like we
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couldn't pick a worse person to throw Why not?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
No, She's like an iconic, intelligent, probably pretty serious, you know,
serious minded person.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
But if you know Jane Goodall to be different, please
write in it my favorite murder at Gmail.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh my god, what have we got? Jane Goodall is
a bad tipper the full teach.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
We're trying to cancel Jacob no no, no, no, no kindness.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Probably the best people ever. Oh my god. Okay, send
us your send us your embarrassing stories.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Like did Jane Goodall steal your boyfriend?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Let us know my Favorite Murder at Gmail.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Thanks listeners, thank you, we love you. We're here for you.
Stay sexy and.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Don't get murdered.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Good Bye, Jane Goodall.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Elvis, do you want a cookie?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Our editor is Aristotle Oscevedo.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
This episode was mixed by Leona.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Squalacci, emailing her hometowns to my Favorite Murder at gmail
dot com and.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
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Speaker 1 (22:18):
Goodbye
Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
That's Georgia Hertstart.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
That's Karen coul Gariff.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
This is the Ministry. I did the wrong line.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's okay, we got there.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
In the end, it feels like the idea that we
don't introduce ourselves from Minnesota is really it's very casual.
It's like we're off the clock.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, and you guys know it's presumptuous and yet familiar.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And yet you're like, oh, these bitches.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm not doing it again. I fucking know who these
bitches are. Why don't you go first?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okay, starting off with a classic murdering my grandfather's laundromat,
classic hometown while visit outside Hi. While visiting my parents
over the holidays, the topic of true crime came up.
My mom out of nowhere, said, you know, someone was
murder at your grandpa's laundromat. I got, and then it says,
do go on. Mom. Here's what she told me. One
(01:06):
day in nineteen eighty eight. She and her family were
sitting around the breakfast table when there came a startling
knock at the door. Three suits, as she called them,
flashed badges and pushed their way inside. My grandpa was
taken into police custody. He was the suspect of a murder.
Early that morning, the body of a young woman had
been discovered on a back road outside of our little
(01:28):
midwest farming townly so scary. Yeah, you're in a place
that's like always quiet, there's not a lot going on totally,
and then a, I mean, that's the beginning of so
many movies. Horrible. Also discovered was a huge pull of
blood trailing out the door of our family's laundromat. Whoa.
According to my mom, the victim was known to spend
a lot of time at the laundromat. Another man was
(01:50):
known to spend a lot of time there as well, who,
according to small town gossip, had a thing for her.
That guy was tracked down by police at a car wash.
And then this is italicized and bolded, literally cleaning blood
out of his car. Can you say caught red handed?
Here's a quote directly from the case files. That's some
(02:11):
serious work. Quote. Police then approached him, told him he
was not under arrest, and indicated that they wanted to
talk to him about the murder. At that point, the
defendant told police that quote Monday was a bad day.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
End quote. So obviously, my grandfather was very quickly dropped
as a suspect. The man never admitted to the crime
and appealed his case several times, but was sentenced to
life in prison. Word around town is that he killed
several people. That was just the one murder he got
caught for. Yeah, there are a lot of details I'd
love to add, but I'll leave you with this. Forensic
(02:46):
investigation was complicated because it became apparent that someone unidentified
had been in the crime scene after the murder and
before it was discovered by the police.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh no.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
This person was later discovered to be a lady from
town on who had come in to do laundry and
didn't tell anyone about the blood because quote that wasn't
any of my business. End quote. Girl. And then it
just says, thanks guys, no name.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Wow, man, Like chilling detail, right, but you'd walk in.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I'm just have no emotions about it, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Or whatever the emotions that you have about it, there's
something else in you that says getting involved is dangerous
or bad for me, or something that it's like not
an option, but it's almost like it makes sense to say,
it's none of your business. If you were walking by
outside and looking in, right, you step inside, you're part
(03:44):
of the crime scene.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, you're in.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Twenty twenty five. All of us step in ors need
to know that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Totally. Wow, you're in it.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Your DNA puts you in it.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
That's right. That's a crazy one.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, all right, let's do it when eighty Okay, this
is called trash kid that time I committed fraud. Dear ladies,
you heard the trash dad stories. You know all about
the trash uncles and the trash moms. But what if
I told you I was a trash kid and a
criminal to boot?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, I'm sorry, but first of all, hell, yes, what
were we thinking not asking for this from the beginning
trash kids? Because my favorite trash kid of all time
is the very i think year one story of the
little boy who rode around on his bicycle chopping down,
chopping down telephone poles with a fucking chainsaw.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, that got turned into an MFM animated like one
of the first MFM animated.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And also by a listener artist, got turned into a
pin that was giving me at a live show that
I have and carry around with me to this day.
It was like for me high art.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, I was really well done, unbelievably beautiful. Okay, so
send us your trash, trash trash kid a story. Yes,
whether it's from you or sibling, we want.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
To know, please, everything you did that got you got
caught and in trouble for and then some.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Okay, so picture it. Northern Vermont circa nineteen ninety nine.
My parents were a part of a Friday night bowling
league at this point, and they got six years old
and rather than pay a babysitter, my parents dragged me
along to.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Sit at the bowling alley until late in the night.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Okay, of course they did their fault.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, the bowling alley had a huge arcade, and little
me loved basking in the flashing lights of the kid casino. However,
we didn't often have enough money for the arcade. All
the money was earmarks for beer and pizza obviously.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I and the other kids were delegated to simply looking
at the games and pretending that we were playing them,
which is the thing I forgot completely.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Just pretending that you're playing them.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, because they're doing they're showing you what could happen
right in the video game, and you were just pretending
that you're trying.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
To practice, especially on Centipede, right.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
When you had lost all your money already playing fucking
pac Man.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Like we'd usually get a dollar four quarters, so that's
four four try which has gone in a flash. Yes,
I mean, especially when you're like bad for us, they
were literally the newest thing there was, so we're just like,
how do you control this suentipeece.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I've always been bad at them.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
That was not enough, So a small group of us
hatched a diabolical plan that would get us all the
quarters we could ever want. And it seemed like such
an easy solution. We were cute adults love cute kids, right,
would adults just give cute kids money?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
They needed a reason. Sick kids, that's it. We needed
them to give us money to help sick kids.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
If you hadn't figured out our grand planned, it was
to stand near the entrance to the bowling alley and
tell people as they entered that we were raising money
for the local children's hospital.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Oh my.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Over the course of roughly two hours, we had hoodwinked
enough people to get almost eighty dollars in donations.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
That is so many fucking quarters. It was all going
according to plan until it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It turns out some of these adults had been talking
with the manager about the cute little philanthropists at the
front entrance, and the manager had no idea what they
were talking about. Long story short, our parents were pulled
from their games and I didn't see the sun for weeks.
I also was dressed down by my mom, Becky Don't
you dare call her Rebecca, who both instilled the fear
of God in me and made me see the error
(07:21):
of my ways. She was a small woman, but she
made up for that with sheer volume and by being
an absolute badass who raised six kids in a blended home.
We lost her in twenty twenty three to a mixture
of throat cancer and COPD don't smoke kids. Her loss
has been the most profound of my life. Up until
she lost the ability to speak, she was the person
I called every day on my way home from work.
(07:42):
I told her everything. She was one of my biggest
advocates when I came out as trans. She was my
favorite person. I honestly don't think i'd be a fraction
of the person I am today Without her, stay sexy
and hug your mom. She may just save you from
a life of crime. Ada, she her Ada.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You know that was one of my favorite stories. Just
but you deserved everything Becky brought to you and more.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, Katie Box, like she had.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Becky had be a little proud, I mean secretly because
also I just I'm assuming what they were a handful
of kids, five kids, Yeah, like they would have been
just golden and that that arcade all night long, Like
who wants candy Moore candy? Yeah, I'll goo at candy machine.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Corn dogs, corndogs all around.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It almost feels like if you get past the finish line,
you get to keep the money and then you're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Right, They didn't say what happened to the money.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Also, how cute were these kids that without a bucket
or any signage, They're just like they got it, they
did it. I don't know, I'm on the kid's side.
The subject line of this email is my visit to
the Jack the Ripper Museum in London. So you and
I haven't talked about the fact that they are claiming
(08:58):
that they have solved the murder case.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Jack the Ripper. What are I just said, Jack the Murder.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you mind if I don't pay attention while I'm
talking during this one? Is that okay?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Necessary? Yeah, we'll talk about it. I'm I'm skeptical, me too,
so let's wait until.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's I'm also skeptical because, oh, by the way, back.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
On TikTok, people were telling me how to tell you
to get off back on it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I mean, God, God, bless our listeners. Who I got
so many messages on Blue Sky like, but one of
the first things I saw was someone that was talking
about that and how it's like, oh, okay, so just
this apron or whatever that's been sitting there for years
and anyone could touch interesting. We should talk about that?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah we will.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Should we do like a retro style and just do
a one subject Jack the Ripper episode?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You could retell the whole story.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Mm hmm okay, it says hi, ladies, an all MFM
family pretty much a day one listener and a second
time writer. Thank you so much for getting me through
a lot of time in the hospital over the last
few years, having multiple surgeries for ometrio so rough. I've
lived just outside of London. My whole life. But somehow
I didn't know until recently that there was a Jack
the Ripper Museum. Did you know that?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But why wouldn't there be? Like it makes sense?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And also why didn't I go there when I was
so smart trying to cover direct the Ripper woman oh
the time? I mean, why wouldn't there be? Is that
what you just said? Yeah, because that's what this email says. Sorry.
My son is also a murderingo at the age of fourteen,
and he's studying law and criminology. So when I was
looking for days out for us to do together, we
were both excited to discover this little gem of a museum.
(10:34):
It's set in a townhouse type building over four floors
and close to the Tower of London and to the
Ripper's hunting grounds. There are sections dedicated to the victims,
the suspects, and reconstructions of one of the crime scenes
and of what the Ripper's living room may have looked like,
where you can hunt for clues as to his identity.
We were absolutely in our element. Some of the best
(10:57):
things we saw were the letters written to the police
from Jack the Ripper, and also the whistle used by
one of the policemen who found the body of Catherine ETOs.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, that's that would be so creepy and fascinating to
see the reconstruction of a crime scene that of those murders. God. Okay,
I would have loved to have done the walking tour too,
but those cobbled streets don't go well with my wheelchair.
Your idea for a virtual walking tour is perfect for me. Great, Yeah,
(11:25):
I love that. Just as an extra fact, the town
I live in used to house the asylum that Aaron Kazinski,
one of the suspects who's the suspect they think they've
identified through DNA, spent his final days. It is now
a park that is supposedly haunted.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's the hauntedest park in park Land.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I mean a haunted park though, where it's like we're
the ghosts from the building that used to be here.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
We're still here. You knock the building down, but get.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Off my bench. Yeah I hate squirrels. Okay. Also, my
husband works for the Freemasons, and I like to joke
that his employers are the reason Jack the Ripper was
never caught. As ATGM and keep trying to solve the
Ripper mystery Sarah.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
She her Sarah must have written that before this DNA
stuff came out.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean, if Sarah's a Day one listener and a
second time writer, this could easily be from nineteen ninety
seven and we just don't realize it.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Wow, Okay, we're gonna have to get into that. Yeah,
all right.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
This one's called Glitchen the Matrix slash Instant Karma, and
I love it because I love those Glitch and the
Matrix stories.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Hi, ladies.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
This story was buried deep in the recesses of my
sleep deprived brain, but it came rushing back to me
while listening to a recent hometown. It was the early
two thousands. I was a junior in high school. My
friend and I were enjoying some chicken nuggets at Wendy's
across town. It's just the kind of crazy shit me
and my bag girl crew used to get up to
in high school. Just kidding, we were nerds. When a
(12:52):
somewhat disheveled woman came rushing into the restaurant. She scanned
the place and came over to our table. This woman
launched into a long story about how her car run
out of gas just before the exit, and she had
to abandon it, but she didn't have any money to
buy gas because she left her wallet at home, and
can we please give her some spare change so she
could buy some gas, just enough to get her back
to her house. My friend shot me a skeptical look.
(13:14):
I peeked in my wallet, hesitated for a moment, then
handed over my.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Last five dollar bill.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
The woman looked shocked that her story worked question mark
and said, oh no, that's too much. And I said,
well that's all I've got. Besides, that's not much gas.
Thank you so much. I'll come right back once they
get my wallet. I'll pay you back. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I shrugged.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
It's good karma. My friend rolled her eyes as the
woman walked out. I bet she doesn't even have a car.
You got played? Yeah, probably, I thought. The next day
at school, I was packing up my things after a
play rehearsal. I picked up my backpack from the auditorium
seat to find a crisp five dollar bill sitting under it. Now,
mind you, these were the auditorium seats that fold up
(13:56):
if there's nothing holding them down, like in a movie theater. Yeah,
so this had to have been placed very carefully under
my backpack.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I looked around in disbelief.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I even called my friend to ask if she snuck
the money under there, but she had no idea what
I was talking about. Quick turnaround for that karma, I guess.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Just was there.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
And there's probably no way that women knew where they were,
no where they went to school or anything.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
And it was a scam probably, which is fine, but
like it just happened, like maybe she put her bag
down earlier, the exact same I know, and it's crisp wild.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, like someone went to the bank.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Just just fucking happened.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
A couple decades later, I now work as an emergency
room doctor. Every day, I know people in desperate circumstances,
some of which they share with me and some things
they don't. I have a few minutes to try and
gain the patient's trust. When it goes well, it can
be incredibly rewarding. When it doesn't. I try to remind
myself that you don't need to know or understand a
person's whole story to act with kindness, and that kindness
(14:55):
will usually make its way back to you. Thank you
for the incredible stories you share every week. This podcast
has accompanied me on countless drives to and from the
er and stroller walks with my baby and toddler, and
it says see sleep deprivation reference above. The work you
do to help humans understand each other is important, and
I am grateful whenever I can listen, stay sexy and
(15:16):
trust in karma.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Victoria.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Victoria an emergency room doctor telling us that are work.
I know, what the fuck? Come on?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
A lovely message.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Also, just that's such a hard job, emergency room. It's
like it's the kind of thing where it's like you
have a job where it's the emotional equivalent of somebody
that will every night, right when you're at your most
to sleep, open your bedroom door and starts screaming. Right.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I mean it makes buck in TV shows about it.
It's like there's no drama TV shows.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
There's yeah, it's no reason that is like that is
the ultimate drama.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It's called er. It's like, that's how hard it.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
God, that was a good show, So good thanks Victoria.
The subject line of the emails kind of cute ghost story.
Question mark in parentheses.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Cute ghost story.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, it says, hello, all animals included. I'm pretty new
here and have just started listening to the podcast a
few months ago. Of course, from the beginning, as I
don't want to feel excluded from inside jokes. We got
to tell you all these jokes are just repeating. There's
nothing inside that's confusing.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, but it could be fun.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Well yeah, I mean, definitely start from the beginning. But okay,
so even though it's been a while since you guys
have talked about ghosts, or at least up until episode
to sixty three eight.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Oh my god, we have so many fucking we got
we gotta pause like this podcast so that people can
catch up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, that's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Take a few months off. Yeah, everyone catch up. Yeah,
we'll meet you back here.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Because we just keep adding and it's too many.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I know, it's really hard. It seems like we should
go on vacation.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Wait, that's why we did the rewind episodes, right.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yes, exactly. That's good to help people catch up. That's
why to access that easier. Okay, A few weeks ago,
I witnessed something ghost related. I knew I had to
share with you, So here I go. It was a
Friday night and we were home alone at my best
friend's house. We were pretty baked and had the munchies,
so we headed to the kitchen to look for snacks.
(17:09):
As we did that, we never stopped talking. We talked
for what felt like hours, and then all of a sudden,
we stopped. What could have been a comfortable silence was
actually much weirder. The kitchen door, which was almost shut,
opened in a manner that only a gentle hand on
the other side coming into the kitchen could have opened.
I must have looked clearly disturbed as my friend looked
at me and said, don't worry, it's my great grandma.
(17:32):
I asked her to please be clearer, as my weed
induced paranoia was about to kick in, and she proceeded
to explain that the apartment we were currently in was
where her great grandma used to live up until she
passed away.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Holy shit, Ever.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Since my friend has been living there, there's always doors
shutting or opening, just like that day, as if she
were still walking perfectly alive around the house. As it's hers,
they just say hello and let her do her thing.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Even though I own almost through up out of fear,
this story made me feel better. Plus, I've always felt
welcomed there and the lady had great taste in furniture.
Days after that, I remembered something my own grandma used
to say when we were all talking and conversations would
suddenly end at the same time. I'm not going to
pronounce this correctly because I don't speak Spanish, but I'm
going to attempt passo oun on hell, which is an
(18:22):
angel passed by. So that comforted me too in a way.
I mean, at least it's an angel and not anything else.
Right now that I've written it down, it sounds way
less scary than I actually felt it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I get it. It's like explaining a dream to someone
that you don't get it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
They say, so just try to remember the whole thing
was happening while being high, which made it a thousand
times scarier. But it is eerie because when things like
that happen, if it was just kind of like a
weird you know, the wind or something that has a
feel to it, but a door just kind of very
slowly opening.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, for no reason.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
To wrap it up, I'd like to say, I've always
been the freak about murders and crime in my face
family and groups of friends, and then I really feel
at home listening to you guys, wish you all the best.
Julieta from Uruguay and then run the season says pretty
fucking far away.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
We feel at home here too, and the house is
haunted for sure. Whatever home?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
This is right? That great grandma is strolling around trying
to be like girls, Do you have to smoke that
much pot? Or can we make cookies and do some
arts and crafts?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Oh? That was good.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Okay, My last one is short. Okay, I'm not going
to tell you the name of it. It just starts.
I just listened to the Hometown about a listener bumping
into Aretha Franklin, and I have to tell you about
the time I spilled a drink on Jane Goodall.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh my god, wait, are you a monkey?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I was a PhD student studying chimpanzees and was attending
my first major conference, and Jane Goodall, obviously an icon,
was the keynote speaker.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I was also like twenty two and new to wine.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
At the reception after a Goodall's keynote, I was holding
a glass of red wine someone had handed me and
trying to make small talk with big name scientists. Hello
imposter syndrome. When I turned around to grab a bacon wrap,
trimp or something equally exciting for a broke grad student
from a passing waiter. But alas, right behind me was
Jane Goodall, and my drink went all caps everywhere. My
(20:27):
only consolation is that because of Jane Goodall's prosapagnosia, which
is the inability to recognize faces, she will never know
it was me. Nice, don't call me out, just call
me e ssdgm E prosopagnosia. Prosopagnosia.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, yeah, you say that all the time. Rosso pagnosia.
I feel like because I it's just a coincidence. I
just saw a clip of Jane Goodall and her team
releasing a chimpanzee I believe, into the wild, and she
seems like interest in this clip. Yeah, so incredibly serious
and like kind of like it's I feel like we
(21:09):
couldn't pick a worse person to throw Why not?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
No, She's like an iconic, intelligent, probably pretty serious, you know,
serious minded person.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
But if you know Jane Goodall to be different, please
write in it my favorite murder at Gmail.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh my god, what have we got? Jane Goodall is
a bad tipper the full teach.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
We're trying to cancel Jacob no no, no, no, no kindness.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Probably the best people ever. Oh my god. Okay, send
us your send us your embarrassing stories.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Like did Jane Goodall steal your boyfriend?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Let us know my Favorite Murder at Gmail.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Thanks listeners, thank you, we love you. We're here for you.
Stay sexy and.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Don't get murdered.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Good Bye, Jane Goodall.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Elvis, do you want a cookie?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Our editor is Aristotle Oscevedo.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
This episode was mixed by Leona.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Squalacci, emailing her hometowns to my Favorite Murder at gmail
dot com and.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Follow a show on Instagram and Facebook at my Favorite Murder.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Goodbye
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