#3 Top 5 Club Calves of All Time with Wyatt Shepherd

In this episode of "Behind The Curtain," John Maples and Wyatt Shepherd rate the Top 5 Club Calves of All Time and explain why. John also discusses Iron Bowl and a show review.

Reach John Maples at 334-703-0923 (he says texts work great for him). Or find him on Facebook. (He is the one pictured with his family and a goat).

Episode Transcript

(00:01):
Welcome to Behind the Curtain. Inthis podcast, show cattle expert John Maples
from Alabama gives his unique perspective andtakes a look behind the curtain and everything
behind the scenes from the show cattleWorld. Reach John with questions at three
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(00:24):
Find details in the show notes foreach podcast. And now John Maple
Behind the Curtains, and it isnow time for the segment we call coffee
Talk. I don't have a coffeesound effect, but since we're talking about
cows, I do have how soundeffect we need that Saturday night, leave
one coffee talk. Coffee talk.That'shall right, I'll give you a topic,

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talk about cows. Okay, myname is a producer, Shelby aka
Buttons. There's John Maples. Wehave unnamed studio guests who has a connection
to the cattle world. I alsohave a very small connection to the cattle
world. But I don't have nearlyenough as mister John Maples, our show
cattle expert Behind the Curtain. Forsome reason, you've just dialed up this
one and this is your first listen. I advise you to please go back

(01:10):
and listen to the intro where weyou know, kind of discuss why it's
called Behind the Curtain, and Imake John Maples talk about himself, which
he doesn't like to do, andthen also go back and listen to number
two. We have guests Wyatt Shepherd, and they talked about the top current
club calf Bulls and what's our topicgoing to be after we do our coffee
talk here? John? How aftercoffee talks, it's the all time Greatest

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list? All right, you know, just kind of who makes who's made
the most impact in our industry andwho's on the list. Thought that would
be a great one to use ofall time. Huh all time? Oh
my gosh. Well, okay,So as an outsider producer looking in,
I mean, how long has therebeen show cattle? Oh yeah, how

(01:53):
I'm just saying, I mean,we're going back to Chicago days and we're
talking twenty thirty forties when it waswe're talking a very very long time way
before me. So, so theywere giving awards and being judged way back
in the day. We're talking aboutback in the day when you know,
things were in black and white pictures. That's that's back color for color for

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sure. Way back. Okay,very cool, very cool. Okay.
So now once again these are allbeing published, so y'all can listen binge
style, and we invite you toplease share, share, share to anybody
in this world of show cattle.John Maples, I know you're going to
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anybody wants to reach you, what'syour phone number? Ah, my numbers

(02:38):
three three four seven O three Onine two three. You can shoot me
a text. You can call mesometime. My services in and out text
messages. Oh great, let's it. Can find you on Facebook? Yeah,
Facebook, you have you and agoat and the kids. Yeah,
kids and the go I love that. Yeah. I asked John what was
his website? He said, Idon't have a website, but I have
a phone number. Said all right, yeah, I've got you know.
That's just the easiest way to gethold of me. Very good, very

(03:00):
good. All right, And thenhopefully in a little bit we're gonna get
a White Shepherd on the phone againto talk about these all time greatest.
But you have another friend who's inthe industry, and we're trying to get
him maybe for a future one ofour future podcasts. But you've got a
young friend who apparently has a lotof followers. Oh yeah, my big
buddy, My big buddy Will Meadowsand love him and hate him and Tom

(03:20):
she drives me crazy. But yeah, well, I actually sitting here in
this studio, I'm kind of likegood Lord Will would love this. Yeah
you go, folks, Yeah,yeah, that's his tagline. Oh he
has a tagline. Okay, wellfolks, well folks. Oh okay,
all right, there you go.Well we're clapping applause for Will, hoping
we get to chat with him alittle bit later on. That'd be good.

(03:42):
Okay, So ironbol John, sinceyou're kind of from well you're from
at Labama. Are you a Bamafan or an Auburn fan? And talk
about your reflection of the game.Oh, I mean I caught just the
tail end, I guess. Uh. I went to Mississippi State College.
Uh yeah, so a little differentbut now nothing to brag there, but
that's where I went to school.My dad taught in engineering at Aubrey University

(04:04):
for fifty years. That's awesome.So but at the same time, you
know, I always considered myself asfar as football, I don't I don't
mind the tide. So you consideryourself a Bama fan. I'm a Bama
fan too. I'm a Bam fanto a degree. They get after it.
Yeah, they try. Yeah,and uh, I like the effort

(04:25):
and what a game last night.Who would have thunk it? My gosh,
almighty. I think it was aroller coaster As a Bama fan myself,
I think it was kind of upand down that one, just that
the very end that I wasn't thelast play but Alabama's last that corner fade
passed on fourth down? Why theyonly rush to I have I've talked to

(04:46):
four or five people on the phone. It was like, you know,
got a guy that might not bemaking perfect, perfect reads and perfect passes,
put him in some pressure, maymake a decision earlier, but you
know, it is what it is. Over now, they got Georgia.
I had twelve heart attacks. Anddepending on when y'all listen to this podcast,
Alabama might be the national champions orthey might not be. Yeah,
I don't know. Anyway, anamed studio audience person, you have an

(05:11):
Alabama hat on a ball cap that'salso a hooey ball cap, so you're
like country and Alabama all the way. Unnamed audience member, I'm sorry,
I was looking up nineteen thirty threewas the Chicago never mind, we're moving
along. Yeah, I'm just kidding. We were talking about to iron Ball.
You want to give your two centsbefore we move on? Roll Tide?

(05:33):
Okay? All right, okay,hang on, let me applause there
again. Okay, love it,roll Tide? All right? So okay,
mister John Maples, do you havenow I'm gonna leave you to do
a show review? Now is thetime in the podcast where you're going to
review a show or maybe have someonereview it, or are you gonna review

(05:54):
a show yourself? What did youdecide to do? Yeah, basically,
just gonna know the first one.Instead of just jumping in, I'll just
talk about something that, you know, kind of behind the curtain, what's
going on? You know, noteverything's always picture perfect and rosy and sunshine,
and you know, we just finishedup the fall show scene. And

(06:15):
a lot of times, you know, you go to shows and you'll,
you know, guys judging the show, supposedly an expert, supposed to be
what they're doing, and a lotof times you can leave you scratching your
head while you're watching it, oryou're taking that truck ride back home and
you're scratching your head and you're like, you know, it really didn't make
sense. It's a so and sosorting that all day, and then it

(06:36):
comes down to class, you know, thirty two, class forty five,
and all of a sudden, heswitched gears or she switched gears, and
you know what was really going on? And I think, uh, I'm
a I'm a fan of transparency.I'm a fan of accountability. And you
know, to me, evaluating cattleis nothing more than learning how to read.

(06:59):
You know, when we were teaching, you know, you're going through
grammar school. You learn what theA sound makes, you know what the
B sound makes a buff and whenyou're talking evaluation of cattle, it's exactly
the same thing. It's nothing thenlearning how to read, how the animal's
feet are supposed to be designed,how the animals hawks are supposed to be
designed. There is a common knowledgebase with everybody that's probably listening in.

(07:23):
You know, you have this commonknowledge base of mass and power and width
and foot and design and muscle andpower and structural correctness and confirmation and basically
short, there's piles of people onthe ring side that can do as good
of a job sorting that class thatwalks in as the people that are judging

(07:46):
the show. Because when you getCavs ready for a show that's competitive,
that is a tough show to goto, you're leaning on an expert.
I don't care. You might bethe expert yourself, or you might be
hiring an expert, you might havesomebody that's just a great friend. You're
leaning on an expert because it isso competitive, so tough nowadays, and

(08:09):
a lot of times, you knowit just God's honest truth. The experts
are just as good, if nottwice as better than the guys that are
sorting the shows. And you know, you just I kind of think when
you hear a judge get on themic and they start stumbling, you hear
a judge get on the mic andthey're a little astray, it brings up

(08:33):
questions that I think, if wedon't get out and talk about and we're
not transparent about and we don't haveaccountability about this, are we doing the
right thing? And I guess theway I was raised, you always do
the right thing, not necessarily sayingI don't want this thing to turn into
you dog people. I don't wantthis thing to turn into a negative light.

(08:56):
And then if there are guys outthere that are sorting these things,
and you're like, man, Iwas blown away by the job. So
and so did I mean he orshe? She walked out there and she
sorted that thing. It was justalmost enlightening to hear. And I've said
that before a time or two,and I'll tell you what, It's been
a long time since I've said that. It's been a long time since I

(09:20):
said, Man, I was impressed. I was impressed how that person sorted.
You know, not only did theysort the cattle right, they were
entertaining, they were fun, theywere great with the kids, because that's
what we're doing this. I mean, the whole roots of all this program
goes back to family, and that'swhat I want to see. But unfortunately,
show after show I go to Iactually sit there and I'm watching the

(09:45):
show, and then all of asudden, we get to the heater classes
and then Judge uses a calf that'sgot a softball knot on the inside of
his leg, and that calf's dragginghis leg through the ring. The calf's
not as stout as the one,and second, the calf's not as he's
got as much dimension and power,not finished to the degree it needs to
be. Then he gets on themic and starts talking and says, well,

(10:07):
you know this one's a little freshertoday, blah blah blah, I'm
gonna use this calf to win theclass, and gets on there and says,
Oh, that last one's a littlestale or something, and you're sitting
there, Oh, he's a littletoo mature headed, that's why he goes
second. Well, when you listento the judges reasons, the one he
won he criticized five to six times. The one that he ran second,

(10:28):
he criticized that calf once. Thoseare the issues I have with our industry.
And when you put a microphone insomeone's hand and you listen to the
words they speak at that moment,it's really tough to lie, and it's
really easy to pick up a lie. And I'm not really gonna be naming

(10:48):
names. I'm not dogging folks out. However, if we don't start talking
about this as an industry, becauseguys, I can pull up Walton Webcasting
and I can have videos of prettymuch every major show in the country,
and you can zoom in there's peopleringside videotaping their phone and you can be

(11:11):
like, Judge was doing great untilthis class. And for better or for
worse, this needs to be talkedabout, and it needs to it needs
to be a light needs to beshed upon this because we're not here very
long and you want to try todo the right thing. And I've got
little kids and that's what I teachthem. And if I don't live that

(11:33):
way, what am I doing asa as a Christian? What am I
doing as a as a husband,as a father, And yeah, I'm
just not going to go down thatpath. And you talk about accountability,
you talk about transparency, you talkabout holding somebody to holding somebody to a

(11:54):
standard, and running shows is noteasy. Running shows is a hard job,
but you're there is no other way, folks that There are a lot
of great people that run shows.But when you see crooked stuff going on,
you know, kind of there's nothingwrong. I was talking to a

(12:15):
good buddy of mine trying to tryingto encourage them, nudge them to come
on the show and tell a story, and I was saying Hey, if
we don't start talking about this,stop complaining. You know, if we
don't speak up about this, Idon't want to hear anything from you again.
And you have to speak up.You have to talk about things.
You don't have to dog people out. But you know, if you're if

(12:37):
you're at a show and they're they'rebragging about this CAF that's winning the class,
and uh, that calf short stridingby six inches and there's studs left
and right sitting behind him, kindof makes you scratch your head and wonder
what's really going on? And untilwe start shedding light upon this and you
start putting a little pressure on thepeople sorting the shows. This show,

(13:00):
I guess I'm such a purious aboutthis, Like the show like fort Worth,
Texas, the fort Worth Stock Show. You know, you have,
you know, nineteen hundred close totwo thousand head of steers in there.
Each exhibitor gets to show one CAF. That's such an honor to do.
I'm gonna hold you up to ahigh standard to sort that thing. And

(13:24):
really, truly, I mean ithappens that it happens at all these major
shows, it happens at local showsand actually just I would love this podcast
actually have to be able to givea voice to people, because that's the
one thing you can complain. I'vecomplained to officials so much I'm blue in
the face and i just get tiredof it. But you actually, if

(13:46):
you could set up a deal thatwould give somebody a voice, would give
them something where they could reach outand talk. And I'm not going to
sit there and dog anybody. I'mnot going to put someone down. However,
I'm not going to be talking aboutthe children. I'm not gonna be
talking about the calf that wins theclass. All that caf shouldn't win the
class. And oh, you're youknow, you're you're hating on this person

(14:07):
or that person. You know.My response to that argument is, that's
a wonderful child that was leading thatcalf. And you know what, the
calf that the kid that was leadingthe calf that was in second, it's
a wonderful child too, So wasthe one in third. I'm talking about
the cattle. I'm I'm being specificabout that, and I'm holding people to
accountability. And that's a that's asegment I want to dive into. If

(14:31):
this actually blows up and it getspopular. Maybe that's something that we can
talk about and I can have peopleon and and and do it in a
respectful, nice way, but thenalso hold people accountable, make things transparent,
and uh, I think that's theway forward. You can actually maybe

(14:52):
grow and have success and and andgrow our industry because to me it's very
obvious that's handicapping our stream badly.So, John Maples, this is the
part of the podcast where we're gonnatalk about the topic. And your friend
Wyatt Shepherd who joined us on thelast podcast, he's back with us.
You said that he was the maverickof the podcast. Hey, so here's

(15:16):
the music. So, so washe the maverick of the podcast? John,
Well, you know why you've beenin intimidated by Laura time or two
back when you you know, usedto come out. I know Laura is
John's wife. Yeah, And actually, uh, when I was putting together
the logo and everything, and Isaid, what about what and she I

(15:39):
showed her that picture and she said, oh, yeah, he looks like
Maverick on that. Oh She's like, you know, yeah, I gotta
have gotta have a top gun aspect. And you're jumping into the list all
time, greatest top five bulls allright, all time, greatest top five
bulls of all time. I meanthis goes back for club Cavs, for
Rais and Steers and everything. Whatwhat you what you got? Do you

(16:03):
just want to break out? Youmay throw out some names or you just,
uh, you're pretty confident in howyou're going to break this down.
No, I'm pretty confident. Notsound cocky or nothing. But then I'd
go heat Wave because he want tokind of started everything out. That's what
we've got now. And with heatWave, I'm kind of one hundred percent

(16:23):
of agreements with you. Actually,I think I'm wearing a hat that had
an old school hat that says heatWave on it right now. And uh,
kind of the the grande that didit all bull of Phil Lautner's and
uh, he's a heat Seeker son. And and then I guess the one
thing you hear on these podcasts theybring it up is heat Seeker was the

(16:45):
first th h bull and he wasthe sire of heat Wave, and you
have to start with heat Seeker andblah blah blah. And at the same
time, I to me, italways goes back to historic things and who's
won the most and and you know, heat Wave, I think he's gotten
you know, he he did well, he did, he did extremely well.
He's one of the better all timebulls. However, when you start

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saying how many state Farirs you won? How many majors did you won?
Uh that heat Wave won a lotof rings. You know, if if
you got to if Phil Lawtner's gota ring on every finger for what heat
Wave has accomplished, you're going tohave to have a little short guy rolling
a bucket around because his fingers aregonna be quite heavy. And god,

(17:29):
I love those things back in theday, and and you'll still see one
every now and then. Uh,the things that bulls accomplished is is pretty
impressive. Did you ever show aheat waves steer? Showed one, showed
one. Yeah, those things canbe tricked out. And uh, I
guess he's also you know, thegranddaddy of here I am who topped our

(17:52):
our all time current list and uh, you know he was a sire walks
alone and and and uh kind ofa pretty solid solid place to start.
Who you got, Uh, who'ssome other names out there? I mean,
we've got you've got monopoly, You'vegot uh, heat seeker, you've
got full flush, you have ma B you having God with trust?

(18:17):
What else you got sitting in thenumber two spot? What? Oh?
I'd still go like here, Iam, he's going now and he's been
I feel like he's left his markethere I am. I'm not gonna argue
on that spot with you. Imean, he is still being used,
but that's bull's been used for along time. I like here, I

(18:37):
am what's the difference. Why isheat wave over here? I am for
you, in my opinion, issiring the damn bulls? If you look
at like, if you look uhin God with trust, he's a bd
R. We wouldn't have bd Rwithout heat wave. Without heat wave,
we wouldn't have have monopoly. Madehim please none of them bulls out.

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He waves just gone of the granddaddyof the mall, and he won a
pile of rings. He won apile of rings. But then at the
same time he's in the lineage ofof all the cattle, and it's just
yeah, there, you know,there wouldn't be there wouldn't be there's bulls
if there wasn't a heat wave.And then you can continue that, you
know, go down to the bulland keep saying that and and at the

(19:22):
same time, but to me,at the end of the day, the
bull doesn't have the rings heat Wavedid. He was kind of the one
that was just dominant force that sweptthe industry like here I Am is done,
like in God We Trust is done, like Monopoly is done. But
at the same time, he wasthe one that stepped out and did win
him every single year back to back. And now here I Am is he's

(19:45):
a he's a descendant of that sameline, and he's done the same thing.
Who you got that three spot?You know? After after heat Wave
the daddy of them all? Andhere I Am, you know ones that's
got the same bloodline. Who's yougot the number three spot? Again?
Was liking God We Trust. Ohman, these new ones keep for for

(20:07):
your list and for my list.These new ones keep just kind of popping
up and dominating, and there isa polished bulls that you can bring in.
However, I remember our last episodeHere I Am and God we Trust,
We're out, so in front,I don't mind them sitting at two
and three because they are that dominating, that impressive, they have to sit

(20:33):
in the two and three spot.You can make an argument competing with heat
Wave, but heat Wave has doneit first and he's won just as many
as anybody else. But you know, it gets a little different in that
four spot. Who you got foryour four spot the all time list?
Oh why don't you? Why don'tyou finish out the list? Ah?
Four spot? We chould and chattedabout it for a while, but you

(20:56):
want to talk about consistency. Andwhen you start thinking about that and you
want to talk about hanging rings,I think you just four spots got to
be Monopoly. I thought that wasas solid of a spot as you can
actually even remotely think of. Youcan make an argument Monopoly goes higher on
that list. Monopoly won about everystate fair there as ever was those cattle

(21:19):
grow and performed like crazy. Andthe thing is with that bull, it's
just nowadays look at the bottom sideof the pedigree. When you see a
barn burner at a major show andyou say, hey, what's that thing
sired by? And they'll tell youall that's a that's an in God,
we trust you know, what wasthat cow out of monopoly? Or you

(21:41):
know, it's just that it's thatline briinage line breeding and things that click.
But then at the same day,when Monopoly was in his heyday,
and you'll still see good monopolies outthere showing nowadays, but when Monopoly was
in the heyday, they were everywhere. And uh, what's your thought on
Monopoly? Holding down number four?I like Monopoly too, And shoot some

(22:06):
of the best calfs, the bestcalf I've ever raised. Monopoly cow.
Yeah, God, that was oneI picked up from you and put in
the seal. Steve Bottom bought thatcalf and never really heard what that calf
did or nothing. But but goodlord, you want to talk about a
big legged, shaggy thing. Wewe still talk about that calf today.

(22:29):
And and it wouldn't shock me ifthat one didn't go on and win something
big because that was a special specialanimal. Walked this, walked this way
back on the Monopoly cow. Yeah, man, I've always been a pig.
They could be a little weird intheir back legs, but maybe a
little maybe a little, But yeah, I guess that was the hit on

(22:52):
Monopoly. He did. He didtwo things. You know, you were
having heat waves and they were atouch more inconsistent, but boy, they'd
hit the home run when Monopoly cameout, when that angus on the bottom
side, those things got so consistentand you just you could pick them out
a dime a Dozen't like every timeyou saw a group of twenty or thirty

(23:14):
and there's five monopolies, you dangnang every single five one. Because they're
going to have that rib, they'regoing to have that body. The hit
on those things was there. They'dget a little bit up in their pastures.
They weren't perfect at the ground,they'd fall off a touch in their
hip. They might they might paddleout here and there, But good Lord,
as far as just the rib andthe body and the consistency and putting

(23:37):
out rings, that one can makean argument to go even higher. But
just to make this list, it'spretty special. And that one's nice.
Uh. I'll put here I amand a God with trust and because I
fell them two are a little bitmore. You kind of know what you're
gonna get a little bit before withhere I Am and God with trust me
with Monopoly, yeah, feel likeyou put them two bulls on a Monopoly

(24:02):
cal you're going to have a homerun. Yeah. The thing is they're
using Monopoly for their success. Bothhere I am, and in God we
trust. I mean, how manywinners have come out, and if it's
a Monopoly son, or if it'sa Monopoly cow, or if it's a
heat Wave cow, you know allof our You know, it's not hard
to make these good ones. Whenwe start making these good ones, we're

(24:23):
just stacking. We're stacking the geneticsback on top of themselves, and that's
the best way to get consistency.And that's how we're making them. So
these bulls have used each other justfor success and production. And then with
IVYF in the game nowadays you getthe right cow, the right the right
col the right lineages, and thenyou just press a button and you just

(24:45):
make as many as possible. It'sinsane how that. Back in the day
we used to ai piles of cows. But nowadays we just we just sit
there and drop a cow off atour donor center and we just say,
make as many as you can.Now, Like, one of the best
deer talk I ever showed was aMonopoly on ballot. Do you remember that?

(25:10):
Yeah? That was Yeah, thatwas that one was a back in
the day. That's Monopoly heat wavekind of the first of just lining these
things up, bringing them back ontop of each other. And and uh,
yeah, that was that old sockfooted calf. That calf that was.
That's been a while, hasn't it? Remember that half that sister of

(25:30):
the gosh. Yes, I dosome high quality things. And the thing
is is, it's like those thingswould still be competitive today. I wish
I still had made. Moving onto that list, we're rounding them out.
You can go a pile of differentways. You can go way back.
You can run back to the sugaras, you can run back to

(25:52):
the black power plays, the KKNew designs. You can you can speed
up and go into the who madewho and and uh you know the glittering
gold. Uh. You can gomaternal or more. But this is the
Club Calf list. You can goto the bull. You can go total
play. Uh, you can gofull flush. I think we both kind

(26:15):
of all agreed that at least I'mI'm gonna take the lead role on the
fifth spot. There's one bull forme. When you talk about I'm a
big one about you know how manyrings you got on your hand, And
that's a full throttle And there wasthere was a lot of great bulls,
you know, he was a sugarray son. There was a lot of

(26:36):
great ones before him that bull DeanCappart came out with. I actually I
actually saw full throttle in Denver.He was a calf, he was a
fall born and he was still onhis mother, and they'd have him on
display, and then after display they'dlet him nurse his mother, and it
was something unique and different. Butyou want to talk about raised great ones,

(26:57):
those great ones out of full throttle, we'reas about as good as they
get. Did you ever remember seeingany full throttles? No, but my
sister you probably remember when my oldestsister was showing Yep, she had a
full throttle granddaughter that won the GeorgiaState app Show. Yeah, now,

(27:18):
who where did you get that one? I remember those things? I was
that was Haley? I guess wasthat Haley showing that one? Yeah?
She was also the only one ofus that got a piece of the Steer
show too at the end of theyear. Yeah. I will say this,
them full throttles were great and awesome. If one of them would come

(27:40):
with a with a tad bit orI guess in baseball terms, an astros
and benefited from anything, I wouldput an astros by full throttle just because
they were fed during the clem Butterralgeneration. And I hate to be the
guy that is, uh is negativeor this or that, but Clenbuderol was

(28:02):
a beta agnes compound. It wasfed and horses as a respiratory drug,
and they noticed those things got incrediblystout, and uh, just for the
entertainment purposes. That was when clemButdol was at its kind of at its
height and its stage. And boy, those things were they benefited from that.
But good lord, those were somerugged, stout made things. And

(28:26):
I'm just like a historian and Ithink you put an asterisk by full throttle.
But at the same time, youcan't deny all that those accomplished and
everything that they did, and uh, it just makes the conversation even that
more better. Yeah, So Ialways heard that they could be a little

(28:48):
on the wild side. Yeah,they can get that. A bunch of
this business. Oh gosh it,you could get a crazy one. You
can get a crazy one every nowand then. I guess I got one
story on a full throttle left iswe had a steer that was splashed up
and Julie Womble girl shoot, Ihaven't even kept up with him. They
had reserved grand with a full throttlesteer, and the girl was just she

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might have been one hundred pounds soakingwet. And I remember this was back
in the day at the state showin Alabama. Scott Shockey was sorting that
thing, and we told Julie andher dad one thing, you better hold
that calf's head up because he hada heavy head. But boy, he
was a truckload. And that wasback when twelve fifty was still winning shows.

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And that was one of the mostimpressive things her showing that calf,
this little thing. And I rememberafter she ended up getting reserved grand that
day, had a wonderful moment.And I remember going back a week later
and finding out she actually fractured herarm holding that calf's head up, this
little twelve thirteen year old holding thecalf's head up, and kept complaining to

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her mom and dad weeks after theshow. Their arms hurt, arms hurting,
and the old girl fracts your armjust by keeping that head up.
And uh, I haven't done thatto my Jesse yet or my Riley yet,
but uh, daddy's a little Daddy'sa little strict at times, but
I always say I was like,well, you haven't broke your arm yet.
Talking about crazy ones. Man,you remember that in God we trust.

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That first year I came worked foryou. Now you can't forget him
if you if you put all thecaves and we've all broke together, we
broke a bunch of them, afew. I broke a bunch of them
here and shoot, I broke everythingat your house for two years straight.
And that's when you're still doing auctions. Yeah, yeah, that. Uh
do you remember our buddy Tye overthere and I and I just said,

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ty I'll I'll pay you ten grandif you'll, if you'll lead this calf
to the bunk house. And thecrazy part ty was thinking about doing it.
And uh to say that one waswaspy. I think the b DR
came in that one pretty hot andheavy, because I remember you feed calves
and you coming back to me andsaying, John, that calf's watching me

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as I drive out in that field. Now, I know you remember when
we had them out there by theroad. I was out there trying to
duct tape some plasticill guideline and thecalf was just sitting there circling me,
like sitting there circling me, circlingme and circling out that this night's not
to come at me. You know, I guess back and I'd always was

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so terrible. I'd always like,I remember breaking calves and I'd have kids
there, and I used to likewrap the halter around him and say,
hey, lead that calf down thereand tie it to the fence, and
I'd just twist his tail a littleextra, slap them on the back,
and I would just think it wasfunny just seeing a kid get drug.
Now nowadays that's terrible. You know. I was like, you take every
precaution not to get someone hurt,or not to hurt the animal and everything.

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But yeah, it was a littlemore rodeo. And but I still
wish I don't had to get tieon the time sometime tell the story.
But I still wish Ty would havejust said that with it and tried it
would be it'd have been fun towatch. Would you have given him ten
grand I wouldn't have to. Hewould have turned, I think, would
have been jumping on him and Bellerand Ty would have been like, save

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me, save me, save me. John. What about when you got
drug at security by that red cap. Oh god, that was a fu
Man sho steer. Talking about topten lists, I mean top five lists.
I mean those things need needed somebelly in a bad way. God
they were gorgeous. I had ared food man shoes steer. He just
he got left at ty outs andPerry and I was like, and he

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was waspy to say the least,that's an understatement. And then uh,
yeah, that thing was so workedup. He drugged me for about one
hundred yards and tie outs and Ijust knew if I let go, like
I might not ever see this calfagain. And I was like, yeah,
it's just it's not an option.I'm not letting go. I remember

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dropping John off and I'm walking backto the truck and those in the Georgia
tithhals because you can park out theretoo, and I looked bad and I
see the calf dragging John and Johnjust pulling up grass and dirt with a
belt and I and I'm not liked, like you know that calf had to
work to do that. And thenwhat was the most the most impressive thing

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is as I got up finished leadinghim to the barn, he was hot.
But anyhow, I got up andit looked like somebody dropped the deck
on a mower and just burnt thegrass off for about forty yards. It
was impressive. Hey I didn't letgo, But hey, if Glenn Maples
was your daddy, you you learnedsomething really click quick, and that was

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if you let go, you're teachingthat calf he can get away. And
that never left me. I got. I got a good Glenn Maple story.
I don't know if I can fiddlethe podcast, but I got a
real good one. You remember thatold smoking mirror stare, it's about last
year. Well, well let's pickit up on the next podcast. Yep,
and we'll intro with that one whitebecause yeah, I do. That's

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a good one. Okay, Whywe're gonna wrap this particular episode up.
Here's your little uh outro music forWyatt Shepherd professional something or other. Thank
you so much for being with us. So wrapping it up and looking ahead
to next podcast, I believe misterMaples is going to be talking about holdovers

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versus fallborns, and I think therewas a little controversial tidbit that he was
going to share with us. That'snext time. On Behind the Curtain.
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