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September 6, 2024 14 mins
Booker and Stryker catch up with Mike Shinoda from Linkin Park: Post band announcement of New Music, Show and New Singer. Mike gives us the the why and how on Emily Armstrong joining Linkin Park. He also gives us his reactions to all the online rumors leading up to their big anouncment. He hopes that all the Linkin Park fans will give the new version a shot. It was always great catchig up with the talented Mike Shinoda and wish all the best to Linkin Park!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
What's up? I like, all right, you guys, Booker, Striker, Shanoda.
It's got a lovely ring to it. How are you, sir?
Congratulations on a roll of this album, this single, this tour,
this everything out, this new lead singer. Uh first take
what's going through your head today?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Man, it's so crazy like we've been.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
We've been, like, you know, putting these things together, writing
these songs, working on everything you're seeing and hearing right
now for I mean at this point months and years,
you know. So it's been like this big secret that
we've kept and to be able to kind of like
release it all at once like this has been, you know, thrilling.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Mike Shanoda's with Booker and striker Emily Armstrong. Booker and
I have known of her for a long time. I'm
sure you have as well. But what was it about
her that led to her being part of Lincoln Park?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I mean we met back in like before the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
We did a few sessions and like then I didn't
see her for a while and I was just like, man,
you know she just I kept thinking, like she's really good,
Like I wonder what, you know, it would sound like
to write some new stuff with her, and in a round,

(01:26):
I think it was like around like twenty twenty one ish,
I started doing a lot of sessions with other people,
like writing, producing for other people and intentionally like staying
away from doing anything with my voice on it or
anything like that. And I you know, in that process
of like starting to be like just meet other folks,

(01:47):
it kind of became more obvious to me that it's
not just about for me like working on new music
or like being in a creative you know, partnership like
Lincoln Park. It's not about just like his are people
good at what they do? Like, it's not just like
do you have a are you great at guitar? Do
you have a great voice?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Whatever? It was more about the chemistry in the room.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
And at some point those sessions turned into Lincoln Park sessions.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Well I shouldn't say that.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Actually, it was more like they turned into like experiments
with me and Dave and Joe and some other people.
We started bringing in different people and we brought in
a guy named Colin Britain, and we brought in Emily
and Brad Joined and stuff, and it those like ideas

(02:37):
like those those rough like hey, let's get together ended
up starting to turn into like, oh, this is like
a Lincoln Park song.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
We would have these conversations, you Striker and me, and
you know, we would always inevitably come back to the
idea of could this be a band again someday? And
you've always, I don't know, kind of left it sort
of open ended. Was there an audition process for this
in your mind? Was were people always auditioning or was

(03:05):
this more of it just everyone looked at one another
and said, yeah, it kind of makes me.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
It was like, really the opposite. It was really the
opposite of that. Like people had suggested all kinds of stuff.
If you can imagine since since Chester passed, there would
be like, oh, hey, check out the singer. You know,
you should try them out. You should do like an
audition try out thing. Oh what about like like it

(03:30):
it would be unknown people, it would be really well
known people. It would be hey, you should do like
a you know, a vocal like the voice so American
Idol style contest and whoever wins is like the singer.
Like there's all any idea you could have about how
the band figures this out. That idea was thought of

(03:52):
and came to us and we heard it, and in
every case we were just kind of like, not, I
don't think that's I don't think that's it. And and
I think we just needed time to settle years, you know,
really to like settle and try the things and take
some take some have some space, and then eventually things just.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Started to like fall into place.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
It really started with me and Joe and Dave, like
I said, like just kind of getting together and messing
around and talking like sometimes we just get together and
talk about stuff. And though yeah, it just slowly became
more and more clear to us, like what combination people
and what combination like sounds was the thing, Mike.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
One of the many things we've been talking about on
our show is the fact that you and the guys
are in a place mentally to allow ourselves to do that.
I think that's probably the number one highlight for a lot.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Of us that you're doing this.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Booker and I are curious, though, when it comes to
the new song that we've been playing, the Emptiness Machine
and then you got the new album dropping November fifteenth,
how collaborative is it among everybody in the band creating
these songs, Like where does Emily come in in terms
of writing and using her take on music to be
part of all these songs.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
That's a great question.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
So that the dynamic is always pretty fluid in our band,
Like you know, if you were to think, like, oh, well,
Joe is a DJ, so therefore he must be the
one doing the scratching and the beats, like that's not
always true, like sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. I
my personal opinion is that his best contributions to our

(05:38):
albums have always been other things. It's like ideas that
he says, what if the concept of the whole record
is kind of like this or like what have you guys?
You know, I've been noticing in the conversations, like these
topics keep coming up. Do you think that's something to
like focus on more? Like stuff like that is so
abstract and big that to imagine that anybody in the

(06:00):
and is like their primary you know, role is an
instrument is silly. So the bottom line is, like I
think with Emily and Colin, like, obviously they did help
write the record, and obviously me and Joe and Brad
and Dave helped write the record, and the six of
us were really the core of the whole thing as usual.

(06:23):
You know, I was kind of at the helm, maybe
actually even more than usual because we didn't have we
didn't work with a you know, like a Rick Rubin
or somebody else, so it's really just for for all
intents and purposes, I was producing the record.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
And then callin.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
One of the reasons why I kept doing sessions with
him after I first met him was because he is
also a producer and a writer, and I found a
really good synergy with him. So he was actually picking
up tasks and like bringing and bringing coming in like
with ideas in the room, coming up with is in

(07:00):
the room that were really like it felt like it
gave us a ton of momentum. We had a really good,
new strong team.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
When you guys played yesterday, it was a very tight performance,
which led me to thinking, you guys seem like you've
rehearsed a lot, and how did you do that? How
did you.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Keep like we literally just we just like you know,
got together two days ago and just kind of said, like,
what if we do a show and we just threw
this thing together.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
No no, no, no no, no.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I don't believe it.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think that I think that that the stage alone
couldn't even be like put together that quickly, like we
we've been working on this for months.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
We've been working on this for you. I mean if
you think about like some of it.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Like years, and it's one thing that's so unique about
so the records called from Zero our original band name
when it was i mean, the earlierly version of it.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
It was just me and my like my friend from
high school Mark. We were called Zero, and.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Then we added Brad and we had a Day and
we added Joe and eventually Zero became Hybrid Theory, and
Hybrid Theory became Lincoln Park like Trivia.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Note that band was x c r O and this
album is from.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Z R O. But whatever, because it's double entendre. It's
like we're kind of starting from scratch, right and yeah,
like like in doing so, there wasn't like a an
identifiable beginning, Like it wasn't like, oh yeah, and you
know two years ago we started this process, we said
we're gonna we're gonna bring the band back.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
We did not do that. That was not how it happened.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
It was just like we were just reconnecting and slowly
like things were evolving, and it wasn't until we had
a bunch of songs that we even started thinking about
who the people were. Does that make sense to have
like half, maybe like half an album's worth of music
and we didn't even have a like a defined singer

(09:03):
yet it.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Was really weird. I like the band.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
The band came into focus as the music came into
focus right.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, not to scare the crap out of you, but
you know, Oasis gets back together great and in a
year from now they're going to do a show. You decided, hey,
let's do a show next Wednesday. Okay, Now that doesn't
seem sane to.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Strike or orbite.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
The scariest part about the whole thing is for me,
was that we we really wanted to give the fans
like everything. Normally, I find myself like, whenever we have
like a release coming up, I find myself trying to
like pull back the fans expectations a little bit, or

(09:47):
at least get them directed in the right place, because
they because a lot of times people's imaginations are really great,
and they come up with these cool things that you
could be doing that maybe are better than what you're
actually doing.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
So knowing in this case that we.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Basically that wasn't going to happen, like we have it
all for them. And so yesterday we while we were
on stage playing a set, live streaming the set, the
website switches over. It's got a new song, it's got
the video for that song, it's got.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Concert dates, tickets, fan club.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Presale, pre orders for every format that you can imagine
of the record, Like you can go on the website
and buy it now.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
All of it was.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
There, you know, and we're ahead of that, like we've
got other stuff in the pipeline coming up in the
next few in the coming weeks and months. So that
was the part I was like, this is just a
lot to make sure that it actually gets put up
on time and put up correctly without any major problems.
And somehow our our team and our band name was

(10:54):
able to pull it off. Team.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I'm ready, honestly, I'm ready to go to sleep for
a month.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Well you can't do that, because in just a few
days you're going to be at the Great Western Miracle
on Manchester Form. Do it a show. Wait, last couple
of things, then we're gonna get you out of here.
For those watching, you know, it's Mike Shanoda. If you're
listening on the good old radio or streaming. Mike Shinoda's
joining Booker and Striker. Did you send any hate text
messages to Jay Gordon? Saying what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 3 (11:20):
He was funny. I know you're talking about the fact
that he.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Said a while back that he heard that Lincoln Park
was going to have a female singer. Yes, and I
think in spite of that, I think we kept things
under wraps really well. He was funny because he backed
down he said that, and the guy said really, and
he said, oh, I actually don't know anything. It's just
a thing that I heard, like, don't quote me, And

(11:44):
of course everybody quoted him, right, And you know, like
I've been in that position before where you maybe not
like you know, to the degree that he was in,
but like slipping and saying something in front of people
where you shouldn't have said it and whatever. But in
his defense, like he didn't actually know anything, he was
just saying a thing he had heard. So my favorite

(12:05):
part though, was like the people had put out all these,
you know, theories about who the singer was gonna be,
and it's like after they did each one, that person
was like, no, no, no, like I I can't do it,
or I'm not the one.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Like poor Derek, He's like announcement. They're like, you're the
singer linkoln Park He's like, no.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I've got a book, poor guy. Yeah no, I mean
there were a lot of theories. I mean, did any
of these like you know you got you got Lizzie Hale,
I mean, is she reaching out to you?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
She posted I don't know the details of this, so
I'm going to do it Jay Gordon right now, Okay,
and say I heard that Lizzie sent Emily a really
nice text or direct message after she saw the performance
yesterday and was like, dude, girl, great job. Like she
she said, Emily said something about I heard I heard

(12:54):
her say something about that. Lizzie has mentioned it, so
that was very sweet. But yeah, like I you know,
people like it's it. I will say this like, it's
a very for a lot of fans who grew up
with us the way you know, with Chester singing, it's
a it's a big change and an emotional moment right

(13:19):
for us to be coming back and for us to
have anybody else singing the songs, and I respect that. Man,
Like for some people, they're ready to jump on board
and follow the band around the planet. And other people
are like, this is like weird to me, Like it's
hard for me to wrap my brain around it because
I never imagined the band sounding on the other way.

(13:42):
So like for that, my door, our door is open
to those people like you don't have to come around today, but.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Like, give us a chance. We're doing exactly what we
want to do. We love we love this new album.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
You guys, it's so I'm I'm like so so pumped
about this new record.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Like, take it for a spin, give us a shot.
I think you'll like it.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
It may not like it the first minute, but I
think you'll be able to wrap your heads around it.
And by the way, connect with the fact that sometimes,
like for a band like us, you can go through
something very difficult and get knocked down and have the
guts and spend the effort and the time to get

(14:27):
back up again and go out there.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Mike Well said, And we are pulling for you like crazy.
The emptiness machine we're playing feels like every twenty minutes
and it sounds great and from zero drops November fifteenth, Congratulations, Mike,
thank you so much for jumping on with us. We
can't wait to see you at the Forum.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Of Thank you so much, guys. Yeah, see you at
the forum in five days, yes.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Sir there.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Congrats again man, We're so happy for you and everybody.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Thanks.
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