02-07-25 Hour 2 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five six sixty nine zero is the text line. You

(00:02):
guys want to get involved in the conversation. Had a
couple of texts come in. We're talking about the heisman
produced for CU. We're talking about all the excellence in
in Denver area of sports, Colorado area sports. Uh and
Brian says, did that heisman produced for CEU on the
field in terms of playoff success?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, it produced as a Heisman trophy? So Brian, quick,
hete We're gonna to start calling a wet blanket. Brian,
I officially ever relinquishing the wet blanket.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I think he's earned it. We might we might have
to love you, Brian.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Let's go to the kell we Collaspul hotline and bring
on our good buddies.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Zach Seegers, Zach, how you doing this evening?

Speaker 4 (00:37):
I'm doing great. I'm also pretty annoyed though that the
regular season award didn't take into account the postseason.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
As far as the heisman, yeah, I mean, how dare
they Well no, I mean I didn't like, why would
they consider it?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, look, I mean you know, if if they did
consider it, I think that you would be against it
because in that particular instance, the NFL coach the year
would pretty much have to be Dan Quinn at that point, right,
you know, I.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Don't think what I actually had a tweet. I think
so in my drafts. But he's given up thirty five
thirty eight forty points per game in the playoffs over
his last what two three years, and that I don't
know if he's winning any Times of the Year awards
for his wizardry on the defensive side of the ball.
Now the assistant coach he hired who's uplifting the opposing
side of the ball, Cliff Kingsbury. You know, maybe maybe

(01:27):
we got to have a is dan Quinn at Cliff
Kingsbury merchiont much like we're having is Schontaigne the Vance
Joseph Merchant Well.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I mean, if you look at it, Jean Page scored
how many points in the playoffs? I mean, we you know,
buy that token. I guess, I guess you're right, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I don't know. We'll figure that out.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Zachi wrote an article up there on the Kowa website,
and one of the things that you know, I think
about the different mediums through which that we through which
we do this stuff. We got the microphones. Obviously, here
on the radio side, there's the television people, and there's
a writing And I always found the writing portion to
be a bit more cathartic, you know, because it feels

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like that in the moment, Especially when you're doing radio.
So much of it is quit based, so much of
it is a give and take in the banter and
all that kind of stuff, and sometimes you miss the
heart of stories. And I've always found writing to be
cathartic for me. Do you do you find that the
same way?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Certainly?

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I love it. You can really dive into a topic
and you can naturally research it. I think the great
thing about any of these mediums, whether it's radio, whether
it's podcasts or whatever, is you kind of naturally go
with the flow of the conversation or the flow of
you know, what you're researching or whatever you're looking into.
And and you know, podcasts or radio or anything, you know,

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there's a bit of a limit to how much live
researching you can do as you're making the argument. While
when you're writing a piece, you know, there's a million
different rabbit holes you can go down to try and
flesh out a point more or just provide better information
to the reader. I think it's also, I don't know,
a great platform tf you create and have some fun

(03:01):
with it. I enjoy h you know, comparing these quarterbacks
to nuclear warheads or whatever. I think stuff like that's
enjoyable and I think it really thrives in the writing medium.
So I'm glad to be back doing it, and doing
it for KOA is really fun.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, we're glad that you are as well.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Tell us a little bit about the first article that
you put up there on the on the website.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Absolutely just looking at you know, what are the big
lessons that never Broncos can learn from the Super Bowl
teams this weekend, you know, and I think there's some
big ones, uh uh, you know, looking at Saquon Barkley
of course, namely, I think that's the one everyone has
their eyes on, you know, look at some other stuff
with loster building and team construction. But one that I

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think is a little under the radar is the investment
in a really sharp defensive coordinator. I think that's kind
of critical to have a great playoff success. These quarter
are these coordinators that can have these you know, kind
of bespoke game plans for you know, whatever quarterback that
they're facing, whatever great offense they're facing. If you're going

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to have success on the NFC side of the bracket,
you're going to run into Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Matt Lafleur,
at Kevin O'Connell. You're going to run into one of
the sharpest offensive mind I think even Nick Sirianni deserves
to be in that conversation after two Super Bowls in
three years. If you're on the AFC side of the bracket,
you're going to run to Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson

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or Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes. And like we saw,
I think in the AFT Championship or really throughout all
these She's Super Bowl runs, you need that guy who
can kind of level the playing field for you and
take these really super human athletes that are able to
really bend the game to their wills so frequently and

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kind of knock them off. Gilter, I think it's a
hard thing to do. I think it's something you know
Vic Fangio can do, Steve Spagnola can do, and I
think it's also a consistent trend we've seen, you know,
Staley with the Rams helping them get over the top
an rumo with the Bengals even that year. But your
guy Jonathan Gannon hitting the Eagles fact Heiress last time around.
I think having a type of sharp defensive minds to

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kind of level the playing field for us.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Key talk was Zach Seeger's about the latest article that
he put up there on the KOA website, the lessons
that Rocos Country can learn from these these Super Bowl teams.
It's it's kind of fascinating because there's it's a study
in similarities and a study in opposites. Uh, you mentioned
you talked about the defensive coordinators. Both these defensive coreriators
have been head coaches before their veterans in this league.

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But the approach of the game with almost fundamentally opposite attacks.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Vic Fangio, It's got the tight front.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Drop everybody back quarters match, a lot of zone bend,
don't break type defense. Steve Spagnolo is the four man front. Uh,
they're you know, they're they're trying to get after you.
They're trying to create pressure with that fraud. Occasionally you'll
see Nicol Blitz's but uh, they're trying to get after you,
and uh, you know, and and and pressure you with
the least amount of people possible. It's it's just really,
it just really is kind of a study in opposite

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philosophies on the on the offensive side of the ball,
the the Eagles built this team by surrounding a young
quarterback with a lot of excellent skill psession players A J.
Brown Smith, Goddard. Now you get to say, GWe Parkley.
On the other side of that. Conversely, Kansas City, he says,
we got a great quarterback, Rule Elevie, maybe lesser type guys.
And it's just as much as things are the same

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on the one side, they're almost completely opposite on the other.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
I fully agree, And it's something I'm really curious about.
You know, the Eagles are kind of this great roster matchup,
you know, while the Chiefs kind of have these unbelievable
super humans. You know, Chris Jones is maybe the best
interior pass rusher in the league. Travis Kelsey's in the
conversation for best tight end of all the time, Mahomes,
Andy Reid, Steve Spagnolo also in the conversation for being

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the best ever at their respective positions. And it's kind of,
you know, to those four. Not to say the Chiefs
don't have a very talented roster otherwise, they certainly do.
But can those four or five just amazing forces with
the Chiefs kind of overwhelm this, I mean, nearly flawless
roster that the Eagles are sitting out, it is very
hard to find any glaring gas on that fill it

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up your roster on either offense or defense. And this
and this, this version of the Eagles, I think, even
more so than the twenty twenty two Eagles, is kind
of built to give the Chiefs truckle. You know, the
Chiefs have kind of adapted to just thriving in this underneath,
you know, high efficiency, low explosiveness style of offense. Well

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to your point about what you're just saying about Fangio,
that's the world Fangio wants his opposing offenses to live in.
And this Eagles defense is kind of great realization of
the Fangio vision in terms of how rated the tackling,
rallying to the football. But by season then this is
the best defense in the league and they do all
the little things so well. And the Chiefs, certain team
we've seen throughout the season, they capitalize on their opponents

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and mistakes. They capitalize on bad tackling, on bad execution,
and this Eagles defense doesn't really have that stuff. You
know that the Chiefs look a little vulnerable to the
run game during this postseason stretch. The Eagles have the
most deadly rushing attack in the league. So I think
in a lot of ways, the match upon paper would suggest, Hey,
the Eagles have a big up in this one. Unfortunately,

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to my earlier point, did Chiefs just have these superhumans
that kilt the equation kind of in their favor? Ultimately,
I think.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Tucker Zach say, what was the surprising thing that you
found as you were doing the research on this?

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Oh, that's a good question. I think the most surprising
thing to me was just how much both these sides
have invested in their offensive lines and defensive lines. I knew,
of course, the Eagles had done that, and then the
Chiefs to to an extent after the Buck Super Bowl loss,
But every single member of the Eagles offensive line was

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either one of the five first players drafted at their
respective positions or is a top five highest player presently
at their lane. Johnson is both of those things that
investments obvious go on to the defensive line, and you've
got three of the four guys our first round picks,
and then the fourth is Milton Williams, who, as you

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know then is about to make a giant pile of
money and free agency. And that's that's the guy with
the least level of investment where the NFL is about
to correct that very quickly. She's no different. Everyone knows
about Chris Jones, but George Carlosti is also a first
round pick. Of course, they invested a good bit in
Cha Mena who recently and then that offensive line, same

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thing where they have really expensive pieces with with Sony
and h Jwan Taylor, but then also highly a highly
drafted piece with Creed Humphrey. And then Tray Smith is
another one that's kind of an outlier, but you know,
everyone thought that he was an amazing guard. They were
just worried about the blood plot issues he had, and

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he's also going to hit free agency and get a
giant pile of money. That kind of corrects at an
So I think it just underlines the idea that especially
as these defenses and offenses are moving towards snash meal football,
a more physical style of play than what we saw.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
In the mid twenty ten.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
You need to be strong up and down those lines.
And thankfully, I think John Payton and George Payton have
demonstrated over this short partnership together that they believe in
that philosophy and are willing to do that.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, and I think that's going to be something that
is going to be interesting to see. Maybe a shift
to a little bit of that this coming season, depending
on the personnel that they get, but I would not
be surprised to see them go a little more powerful,
even more twelve personnel, you know, in a lot of ways.
We talked a little bit earlier about the office prop
around here. Didn't get your pick in there this year,
but I will for next year. What is your favorite

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Super Bowl prop? On field?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Super Bowl propy?

Speaker 4 (10:53):
This is a dumb one. I was recording a podcast
with our friend Joey Richards earlier today and I was
looking at PROPBS and I have one that I think
is actually a pretty good value. It's stupid, but the
Gatorade color right now, it's like even money on whoever
you're betting to win the game, you know. I think

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it's what Chiefs favored by a point, so you know
it's gonna be minus one ten or plus one oh
five whatever in either direction. Purple Gatorade is at plus
two fifty each of these last two years. So the
first two years and the Chiefs three p it was
purple gatorade, And so I think that just seems like

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good value. Yeah, And of course they could have a
color different than purple. Athletes are superstitious people. Are they
going to mix it up as they're going for that
third championship that seems super likely to be And I
own this is a very silly bet, but you know,
I think I think it's got a great chance of
city definitely better than the plus two fifty. It's valued

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at getting a little more serious. I think say Kwon
Barkley touches or carries, if you can get those numbers,
that's ideal. Again, the Chiefs defense is so great at
limiting explosives this year, I don't know if you're going
to have the big seventy yard sa Quon Barkley pop play,

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especially when that's going to be the point of emphasis
over these past two weeks. But the Eagles, I think,
are going to lean on them hard. You're going to
see a lot of early person out carries a lot
of dumb bops in the passing game, and I think
he's going to view heavily, So seriously, I would go
with Klon Barkley touches or carries over.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
A little.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Not seriously, but I do think it's a very good bet.
Would be the purple gatorade bet.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Well, good to know there.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, we've got the Saquan touches in the parlay, so
I guess we're set to go there.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, Zach Grant here a great article by the way
on Koacolorado dot com. Two questions for you here, First, quickly,
who do you have win in the game? Are the
Chiefs three peating or the egos getting revenge?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
I refuse to pick the chief you know. I'd rather
go down wrong than be right on that one. I
think it's going to be a great game. But yeah,
I'm Jesse Pigman here. I feel like they can't get
him away with it and Mutch got to run out
at some point. This Eagle's team field like I kind
of laid out. It feels perfectly built. Should not the
chief thus to me in offense? And so, I mean

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I feel crazy betting against them, But I'm taking the
Eagles in this one. I'd say something like twenty seven
to twenty one. I don't think it can be point
game or something at the end, because the Chiefs have
proven they will find a way to come out with them.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Well, if you're Jesse Pigman, I guess that makes me Heisenberg.
I am the danger. I'm the one who knocks, and
I'm gonna say that Kansas City wins this thing. So
prepare yourself, sir, for disappointment.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Second question I have for you, Zach, what do you
think of just Patrick's ertay in the second winn Defensive
Player of the Year.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
How cool is that for Broncos country.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I mean, I think it's an I really this is
a case where I think it's very hard to get hyperbolic,
hyperbolic about how big this is. If you look at
NFL history, it's very hard to have the accolade that
Sir Chain already had in his very young NFL CAREERWAB

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twenty five yet and not make the Hall of Fame.
Lester Hayes only had the one first Team All Pro
and a Defensive Player of the Year. He didn't get
in Stefan Gilmore to be determined there. He is the
two first team All pros and a Defensive Player of
the Year. I kind of think he doesn't get in,

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but really, if Sir Kain gets one more first team
All thro at any point in his career, based on
his accolades, he should be a lock for the Hall
of Fame, which is crazy to say about a twenty
four year old. And I mean I remember early on
in Turtan's career when it looked extremely promising and he
was looking amazing, there was a tapping of the breaks
of have the champion ly conversation. Yet let's not put

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that on the guy. Let's not be too ridiculous here.
It's time to have all those conversations. You know, barring
injury or you know, something awful happening, he should be
at the top of those lists for a long time
and continue to stack him up to the point where
all said and done, we could be having you know,
best cornerback of all time conversations and that's lofty. But

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man seven eight guys all time has done the defensive
Player of the Year saying at corner three over the
last thirty years, which is you know, when the NFL
is leaning into this more pass happy stuff. It's a
really rare accomplishment. And even then Ifan Giltmore his numbers
and cheas and I don't think it is as impressive
as what PF two turned in Woods in the other

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one of these past thirty years. Did it with a
lot of sacks and poorest tumbles, and it wasn't deserving player, absolutely,
but it wasn't the type of lockdown corner presence, you know,
absent a stat like a box sport stuff. He deal
that Certang has turned it, which is again exceptionally rare,
you know, unless Derek Stingley or Christian Gazalez chased down

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from the Navy young cornerback, maybe Travid Tyer get in
the vix. Yeah, we're gonna be having some very lofty
conversations about PS two for a long time, which means
we're good dealing with a lot of Benjamin Albright victory last.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, listen, if you guys wouldn't let me have these
easy victories, I wouldn't have to take somebody victory. Last.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Football is not gonna spike itself, Zach.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Well, That's why I'm here to remind you about dan
Quinn giving up forty a game in the postseason. Yeah,
I gotta, I gotta keep you a little humble.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, you know, the head coach probably need to have
a talk, was defensive coordator at that point.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Zach.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
We appreciate it as always. Uh, guys, you can get
the article up there Kiwi Colorado dot com now and
Zach look Ford is seeing around the office.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Bud, thanks Ford to seeing you too.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Let's get on Lombardi saw Man hes there some criticism here, Ben,
All right.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Let's do that. We'll we'll that'll be the next article, right,
we'll co write it, we'll put it together. Rocos Country
Tonight's got chief communications officer for the Hall of Fame
coming up top of the next hours. Rister Royster's sitting
up next. We're going to talk about this this partly.
We're talking about my favorite bets for the Super Bowl.
We'll get into that next here in Brooks Country Tonight.
Thanks to Zach Siegers for joining us in the last segment.

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Talk with the new article he put up on Carwiclorado
dot com. And he's gonna be doing that a little
bit more. It would be fun. It's always good to
read with Zech has to say, even if he's a
dan Quinn.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Hater, I don't like him hating on that commander's defense.
You know, we have a strong tradition with Chuck or
John Pagano here on the show and your affinity for
dan Quinn.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I don't like this hate. I'm just saying. I think
once they get the personnel there, that'll change. But they
obviously invested the offensive side of the ball. You look
at the draft and going up there and get Jane
Daniels and I'll be Miles Garrett added to the rosters. Possibly,
that's one of those things that you know that I
think that is if Cleveland does move off their stance
about moving them, it could be very much possibility.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
You missed any part of that.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
You go to Brocks Country at that Cole Slash podcast
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Ken Solomon is the most recent Ugus mascot, the most
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Cause take David Smitherson. You never know David Smitherson. He
would be down sources tell me super Bowl prop bets.

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We talked about the office propathon. I guess that we've
got going there with that eighteen leg parlay, and you know,
it's it's always fun to h to sit there and
put stuff like that together and and see what you
can come up with, and you know, hopefully we'll make
a little money on it.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
But in terms of some of the the props on
this and the reasoning behind that, I'll get into a
little bit with you with you guys that you guys
can understand my reasoning part of that. I mean the
Saquon Barkley any time. I think that's that's pretty self
explanatory to me. I don't think I really need to
break that one down any further. Well, he expects Saquon

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bark we score touchdowns. Really, you know where that's at
has nothing to do with anything other than Saquon being
one of the best players in the game today and
a large part of Philadelphia's offense and quite often gets
in there and and gets touchdowns. That's that one to me.
He seems incredibly easy looking at some of these other

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bets real quick. The other anytime touchdowns in there, because
there's three anytimes in this parlay. Travis Kelcey feels like somebody.
I mean, he's gonna be a volume target guy for
the Chiefs in this game. And I'll get into why
I think that is here in a minute. But Jalen Hurts,
I mean, this is another one that's obvious, especially if
they get there near the goal line and they actually
go away from Saquon in those situations and go to
Jalen Hurts on the tush push stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
So he feels like that's a pretty good bet as well.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
And then Kelsey again, you know, they love to they
love to try to feed him once they get down
inside there. I'm gonna go down the list on these.
We did the any times, the the under of sixty
one and a half, teasing the under up to sixty
one and a half and getting under that the over
of thirty nine and a half. This does feel like
a game that can get above twenty to seventeen. You know,

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as long as it gets to twenty one to twenty
year it gets to twenty four to whatever, that kind
of thing, we're fine here. I don't think this is
a kind of game that's going to get to thirty
one thirty and then get above that. It just doesn't
feel like that kind of game. These two defenses don't
feel like those Those are the way that they'll do things,
and especially the style of defense that Philadelphia plays. They
play a bend, don't break, which slows the game down.
They run the football with sake pat barkety, which slows

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the game down. So to me, this feels like that
that bracketing that between those twos, you know, seems pretty easy.
Rick Lewis with the fifteen plus Pat Mahomes rushing yards,
and I do feel like that, you know, we'll get
one or two scrambles out of Mahomes, maybe three, and
if you do, you're probably gonna hit that, right he does.
He's not a guy who wants to get out there

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and run, but.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
He will if he gets flushed out.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
And the Eagles certainly have the defensive players to do that.
And so I think that if you're looking at that
and you're saying, all right, d well, what are we
what are we looking at here? Have a Holmes rushing
for fifteen or more yards? Does not really feel like
that that is a.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Big stretch.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
This isn't like you know where you're looking at the
Jalen Hurts, so the Lamar Jackson's of the world, where
you're looking at trying to figure out if you're going
to get forty or forty five yards, you know, those
kinds of thing based on how much they run. Mahomes
just is not.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Is not that guy.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Fifteen yards is right around where he's at most games.
There have been games otherwise. You go back and matter
of fact, the most recent playoff game he branded eleven
times for forty three yards.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
And two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
But that's significantly different than what it is that he
traditionally does. You go back and look at the five
games before that, and he's had fourteen, twelve, thirty three,
fourteen and seventeen, So right at that at fifteen yard mark.
So I feel like that fifteen yard is probably is
probably right around the mark in terms of In fact,
if the numbers any higher than that, I'm probably.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Betting the under. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, and then four Super Bowl appearances as one hundred
and seventy two total rushing yards.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, he'll run a little bit more. The bigger the game,
the more he'll run a little bit more. Towards the
end of the season too, so starting to keep your
eye on there. One of the other props which we
did not get to in when I was running him down,
is the under of nine and a half tackles and
assists for Orin Burks. This was an interesting one that
was given to me by somebod in the office, and

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it really sharp one to me. Birks is only top
that number once all season. It was against the Giants,
where he had seventeen tackles plus assist. The rest of
that has all been nine or fewer. And this doesn't
feel like the kind of game where he's going to
be the kind of guy making making those kinds of
exact bonds, the guy you would think would be racking
up a lot of those. He's been the guy who

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filled in when when Bond, you know, maybe wasn't his best.
He's been the guy who's gotten some of that spillover
stuff oron Burks. Under nine and a half feels that's
certainly an interesting one that was passed here, and I
see where the line of thinking on that is. Dallas
Goddard at three plus receptions, that one feels pretty self explanatory.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
That's the safety blanket for hurts.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
You know when they when they dial up something big
for Smith or Brown and they're not there and you
could dump it down. Also, Goddard can be the possession guy.
I feel like if this game goes the way I
think it's going to, which is, you know, Philly gets
a slight lead, maybe tied at the halftime or slightly
for Philly, but then Kansas City comes storming out in
the second half, as they tend to do with these
kinds of games, that toward the end of the game,

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you're going to have a situation where Philadelphia is trying
to pass to catch up, and I would imagine that
some of those passes are going to be quick hitters
to Dallas Goddard, so that receptions that three plus receptions
feels pretty feasible. On the flip side of that, Travis
Kelsey gets six plus receptions also feels feasible to me.
The way that Vic Fangiol plays defense dropping guys back,
this could be like a nine or ten reception game

(23:56):
for Travis Kelce. I would not bet the yardage total
because I think it's going to be nickel and dime
type plays, but I do believe that Travis Kelsey will
wind up catch getting it an order to amount of
receptions overall here, because just by the way that they play,
it's a ben don't break defense, and he could turn
his back, he could run up, turn his back to
the defense and catch the ball, and they could just
move the ball, move the ball, move the ball the

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way that Kansas City likes to do playing pitch and
catch between Mahomes and Kelsey. And certainly we'll see how
many times the camera pans over to see Taylor's stovers
with her get in the box every time he catches
the ball. What's the over under on that. I actually
don't know. I said it at five five and a
half something like that. I think that, you know, anytime

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they have a chance to get Travis Kelcey on there,
then they're probably going to use that as an excuse
to go up there to the you know, pan over
the box and do them Pat Mahomes at two hundred
and twenty five plus passing yards. Mahomes has been a
little inconsistent this year with h with the passing yardage
hit that against Buffalo, did not against Houston, did against Pittsburgh,

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did against Houston back the regular season, did not against Cleveland,
did not against the Chargers, did against the Raiders. It's
been hit or missed. So go two three games hitting
in the two or three games not hitting it. He
hit that number in the last game, but did not
the game before that, So we'll we'll see that. Two
twenty five I think is feasible because I think what.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
The Chiefs are.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Going to have to do is a lot of nickel
and die in passing, and so what I think you're
going to wind up with is the yardage total is
going to end up exceeding It's I don't think it's
going to be a high scoring game. I do think
it'll get like into the low twenties between these two.
But Mahomes could have a bunch of yardage simply because
they play bend, don't break, and they'll let you have
yardage to get get you down to the red zone

(25:43):
and then bog you down to try to turn you
over go for the field goal.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Patrick Mahomes has hit over two hundred and twenty five
yards and three of the four Super Bowl appearances he
has had, the only time he has not Tapa Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Fifty seven against the Philadelphia Eagles. Oh wow, Okay, well
there you go. What do you have in that game?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Two okay, but three passing touchdowns. Also a totally different
style of defense he was up.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
And a totally different style of offense.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
They're running this right, So you know, I don't know
how translatable it is. Jalen Hurts at won seventy five plus,
this one feels like it's a little tight for me.
I'm this is one like this one in the Saquon
total yardage. Out of all the props that we have,
these ones feel a little tight for me. Now, obviously,
Hurts easily cleared that against Washington with two hundred and
forty six yards, but in the three games prior to

(26:31):
that did not Rams, Green Bay and the previous Washington game.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Now he onlytepted four passes in that game, he did not.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
He did clear it against Pittsburgh, but then you have
to go another two or three games for the last
time he cleared that, which was against the Rams. He
did clear this quite a bit in the early parts
of the season, so perhaps it's late health and they've
run the ball more, But this is one I'm a
little nervous on Saquon Barkley. We got him down here
for eighteen rushing attempts, and that would be in line

(27:03):
slightly below his season average, but in line with what
he does. He did not get that number against Washington,
although I think Philadelphia being up as much as they were,
they didn't need it, right, It only got fifteen.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
There.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You go back and you look the last time that
he did not clear eighteen rushing attempts. You have to
go all the way back to Philadelphia playing Dallas early
in the month of November, where he got fourteen carries.
There's only two times this season where he has not
cleared this mark. That was against Tampa and against Dallas,
both road games.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
So I think that eighteen.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Plus, while that looks eye popping, feels like a number
that the Eagles will probably manufacture a way to hit.
The other rushing attempts we have is Jalen Hurts. We've
got him at six plus rushing attempts. He failed to
clear that only once this season, and that was the
Washington game, not the playoff game that just happened.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
That was the Washington.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Game back near Christmas where he played a few snaps,
one of four passing, and had three rushing attempts. He
has cleared six plus rushing attempts in every game this season,
So there you go on that. And part of that
is because they gets the bonus from the Toocht push, right,
and they do that thing once twice a game, so
it's gonna pad the totals. So that's one of my favorites,
actually is the Jayler Hurts six plus rusting attempts. One

(28:20):
of the ones that I found was interesting and I
couldn't believe we were getting return on this for as
low as it is is the Isaiah Piccheco rushing attempts. Here,
we got this one that it's four plus rushing attempts
only four, so all he has to do is carry
the ball four times. He has cleared that in every

(28:41):
game that he's played in this year. However, the last
two games that he's played in have been five attempts
and five attempts.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
I didn't realize it was that close. Yeah, and the
game before that.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Was six, so you know, it's it's been one of
those things. I mean, early on in the season in
September he was getting nineteen fifteen care there was early
December when he came back from the injuries, getting fourteen
and thirteen. But it's gone down fourteen thirteen, nine, six,
five five over the last few games. So four plus
that's that might be rolling the dice. Sad to say,

(29:13):
but that might be. That might be roll of the dice.
And one of the reasons for that is because Kareem
Hunt has been a little bit more effective for them,
and so they've they've used that a little bit more.
Kareem Hunt has had double digit carries in three of
the last five. The two games that he didn't were
eight and nine carries. We have Kareem Hunt here at

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forty plus rushing yards.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
He failed to.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Clear that in games where he got double digit carries.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Zero times. Well, I'll take that back.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
One time it was the Denver Broncos game where he
got thirty five. But other than that, he has cleared
that forty plus yardage anytime he's got double digit carries.
Sometimes when he's gotten single digit carries, but there were
the Pittsburgh game where he only got twenty yard fifteen
against the Raiders on seven carries. If he gets ten carries,
he generally gets the forty yards and so that one

(30:06):
we feel like is safe too. The last two are
are are pretty interesting because we have Philly winning the
game at halftime, but Kansas City winning the game overall.
I love Kansas City in the second half. I love
taking Casey lay in points for a second half bet,
but we just went moneyline for the game Casey and

(30:27):
Eagles money line at the end of the half. Kansas
City is a team that likes to stick with what
it's done most of the year in the first half
and then throw something at you in the second half.
And we've seen it. In fact, we saw it in
the last Philadelphia Super Bowl. They started running those half
orbit motions out of the backfield. Philadelphia had no answer
for it whatsoever. Kansas City likes to play their cards

(30:49):
close to the vest, keep it close, and then blow
up on you in the second half.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
And I would not be surprised if we get the
same thing.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
We get a game flow that leads to a Philadelphia
a small Philadelphia lead in the first half, and then
Kansas City lead in the second half. So there are
ways to I think bet this where you can get
you know, Casey, you lay Casey, you lay a few
points in the second half and Philadelphia. You know, if
you get Philadelphia the money line in the first half,
and you can make a mini bet like that.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
If you're trying to find ways to stretch your money
a little.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Bit, Are there any outside of the eighteen leg parlay
that you like personally?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
You know, first half unders tend to cash. This under
is quite a bit lower than what you recently put
a lot of confidence in, But first half unders do
tend to cash in Super Bowls a lot of times.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
That's because teams.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Have a couple of weeks off and and you know
you're a little bit rusty on offense. Defenses have a
little bit extra time to prep for you, and so
you get those, you get those first halves that are
under the under on this one. The first half under
is twenty three and a half. So that's an implied
score of do you think it's going to be thirteen
ten or less at halftime? And I think it's a

(32:02):
feasible number. I do think it's a very feasible number.
But first half unders tend to cash in these things
quite a bit. The first the second half over under
the exact same number at twenty three and a half.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
I like the over in the second half, So you know,
if you're looking.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
At those, I think those are probably those are probably
things I like one of the biggest ones out there,
the Jake Elliott over one and a half field.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Goals made is going at plus one oh five.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I hate that Elliott has been unreliable throughout the playoffs,
and I'm gonna tell you if he misses a kick early,
I think they pull the plug and they don't kick again, and.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
They just go for it if it's fourth and reasons.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, because Jake Elliott has been so bad and so
inconsistent that it just to me, it feels like that
they're not get a chance that they miss a field
goal early with him, and I think they go away
from it.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I hate that.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
One One of the ones I love we've talked about
is the Travis Kelcey receptions. I love the over on
the receptions. They're the over six. You can get that
a plus one thirty by the way, nice, so you're
getting you're getting value back on that. Some other interest
ones that interest me homes passing attempts.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I think it's like thirty six and a half. Now,
that might be a little high.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
I felt like, you know, if you buy that down
a little bit, I do feel like there's gonna be
some dink and dunks so I feel like the passing
attempts is going to be fairly decent, but I don't
feel like the overall, like the raw yardage is necessarily
going to be there. I think like two twenty two,
twenty five is probably a good number to bit if
you're looking at that. I wouldn't go too much higher. Again,
dinking and duncan. You could still pick up yardage, but
I'm avoiding looking at the passing touchdowns and all that

(33:37):
kind of stuff. Uh, And then you know, you might
throw it at a new Copkins anytime it feels like
that that.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Might be one that sneaky.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I might try to find a way to get it
to him.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
That might be one to take a look at.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
So just a few of those we come back, We're
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