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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What a few texts coming in here real quick. I

(00:01):
want to get tuesdays. Can you tell us? I just
want to say, if the Broncos trade up in the
first round for a receiver, I will probably stroke out.
But if I live through that, I'll buy drinks for
you guys. Never Broncos for life?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
What say was going on?

Speaker 1 (00:13):
He does not want the trade up for what and
I don't either, So I.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Don't like that idea at all myself.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah, we're all we're all on the same same thing.
You said. What Night says if the Broncos were to
trade up, it wouldn't it be for a running back
instead of widers?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Here?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I don't think you can trade up at all, but
that would seem to be more likely the Night said it. Oh,
will you guys be posting the draft day coverage on
the podcast? It'll probably on the KOA pod, right, I
don't think we'll have it on the BCT pop. It'll
be on the KOA pod. And that'll be uh Thursday
night obviously, uh Friday night, and then Saturday during the day.
There's tons of covered Saturday, so there you go as well.

(00:49):
Four oh six, man, it's my birthday. What's the lock
of the draft. For a bet cam Woard going number
one and at minus five thousand, you only have to
bet five thousand dollars to win one hundred dollars back.
Don't do that. This is I mean, if you got
five grand to win a hundred bucks, good for you,
But that is horrible leverage as far as that goes,

(01:11):
although you will win that bet four one seven O
Mari and Hampton. No matter what, Sonny Smitherson, is there
a real possibility we could come away with Hampton and
Mason Taylor or we'd have to choose between them. I
stay put to get Hampton and not being arranged to
grab Taylor in round two, or trade back and therefore
lose out on Hampton but being ranged for Taylor. All
those possibilities exist. I would say the Broncos have with

(01:31):
the fifty what is the fifty first or fifty second pick,
I can't remember which. In the second round, you could
there's ways you could move up there. You could get
Hampton at twenty and wait you know if if he
falls there and then and then move up for a
Mason Taylor without giving up too much to do that.
I believe they could come away with.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Both the Boco's fifty first pick.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, see fifty first pick. So I don't think they'd
have to move up too too far there in order
to do that, and I do believe that they have
the amo to to kind of do that if they
wanted to move up. Last question here, still like the
over of two point five running backs in around one?
I do. I still think that Hampton, Henderson, UH and
Janty will go in the first round. So there's that.

(02:14):
I have a ticket on that. So we've been promising it.
So without further ado, let's do the safety thinkboard time.
Big Boy in my head just some plays. Every time

(02:39):
I walk in the studio, I've got I strut in.
There's smoke. Somehow I look like baby Billy from the
Righteous Gemstones. Who Uncle Baby Billy.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Uncle Baby Billy. I'm just wondering. With band's rather large head,
how does he get through the door.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, it's not room in here for me on my ego.
That's why weaned the studio. All right, Now, how many
safeties did you do? You did your customary?

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Eight?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Eight is enough?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Fair enough? I always do ten, just because I'm obsessed
with compulsive In SIG round number so I'll knock out
my my ten, nine and eight real quick in the
lax years. And ten I've got alive to Clark out
of Syracuse, big fan of big fan of his game.
Kind of a winding road. He had stop at Rutgers
on the way, a little bit on the light on
the size six seven, but you know he's got some

(03:23):
got some good length, not afraid to tackle. Four to
four collegiate games, one hundred and eighty seven tackles, nine
and a half tackles for a loss, only two picks though,
not really a sure handed safety, so didn't get them there.
Number nine, I've got Billy Bowman, junior out Oklahoma, more
of a zone slot or nickel safety than anything else,
but I did like what I saw there.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
And then I've got Laithan Ransom out of Ohio State
as my number eight. More of a man's own slot
nickel safety uh as well, four five three forty guy,
and uh, you know coming out Ohio State, they've got
that pedigree.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
He was a fifth year senior though, So there's that
all right, Nick, Let's are with your number eight here.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, my number eight is out of Uva.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Six foot two, twenty six, Jonas Sanker, and he is
some interesting facts about this particular kid. He was coached
by one of my former Broncos teammates, Carome Cox. So
when I think about this guy's a skill set, I
mean he translated into being an excellent special teams player
on the next level.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
He's better in zone than he is with man.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
And the biggest thing, he's a solid tackle. He tackles
well in space, but in covered sometimes I discipline as
somewhat of issue. Now, Billy Bowman, I think you had
him at yours numbers, but eight would have been number eight, Okay,
So I got him at number seven out of Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I mean, obviously, when you look at the size, some
people will shy.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
From that because he's fred pounds and some evaluated one
guys much larger than that playing to save the position.
I really don't care as long as you are are
a playmaker. The kids got good instincts. He's tough, he's feelless.
And here's a great thing about him. I mean he's
a former track athlete and he has over three hundred
snaps on special teams. Right, So if you are a

(05:16):
team and you're looking for a guy to add depth
guy who's a good tackler, good solid player, and he
could play on teams right away. Obviously, Billy Bowman is
that guy.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Now you him at seven? I had mis seven.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Now now out of Ohio State, I got the lethan
Rams and uh, he's number.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Six for me.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Number six, you got higher than I do. Okay, well
it comes me come back to that because at my seven,
uh with Saker, who you also had, So we're the
same there because our six is not going to be
the same.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I like Saker.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
The special team's ability was a big plus for me too.
He's punt kicking it all that kind of stuff. So
that's a big, a big thing for me. All Right,
you got your number six.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
All right?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
So mine six once again Ohio State, Lantham, Ransom and
once again. The last couple of guys I gave you
are all guys who can play on teams, which I
think is will be a very vital role. And the
reason I'm saying that because most teams, even though safeties
have become important, they're not willing to take safeties in
the first round. So these are kind of like your

(06:16):
Day two guys, if you want to go in that direction.
And they give you a bunch of versatility.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
You wanted to get one or two in the first round.
That's it. Like safeties say they are, they can't get
pushed down running back of the defense man. You guys
don't get to respect you deserve, No.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
We don't.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Especially when teams are leaning heavily on these athletic tight ends.
You need guys who can be able to cover those guys,
but more importantly, guys who can blitz. And later on
this list, I'm gon get to some guys who can blitz.
But as far as the ransom, he is that prototypical
box safety downhill sledgehammer of a guy that you want.
It's not one of these days where you say, well,

(06:50):
oh this guy is a willing tackler. No no, no, no, no no,
not with this kid the hammer, yes exactly, And trust me,
playing defense, you alway would it be the hammer and
not the nail.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So that that's kind of my my number six.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Okay, all right, that's sour, Now we're track. My number
six is out of Penn State. Jalen reed uh sixth
flotter to eleven uh and in a four four nine
forty got plenty of athleticism to be able to uh
to be able to play the position four star recruit
back in uh uh in in college. Uh. I love
the Penn State safeties this year. Both those guys I
thought were pretty good, uh, but I like to read

(07:26):
just a little bit better. One of the things you
noticed about him has got a natural feel for run
fits and gap integrity, and so I know as a
as a safety, you can definitely UH appreciate that. I
think that he's got the versatility do multiple roles. Uh.
I can play all four special teams units uh while
trying to develop as a as a contributor. So my
number six was Jalen Reed out of Penn State.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
All right, So I'm going to keep with that Penn
State theme.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Like you, I knew you would. Why you say that
when we were when we were we were, when I
was fiving together. I'm looking at this, I'm like, man,
I like both these guys, but I don't want to
put two Penn State guys on my top one list.
You do whatever I try to mix up. So I
put Jaylen Reed on there because I you know, and
I was like, I know, Nick seel like he'll win more.
That's gonna be an argument.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
So Vin Winston Junior from Penn State six two two fifteen.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I like him.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
He's a striker, he plays with with rage, one of
those things that could be a red flag for teams,
which is crazy. And I know how it goes the
fact that he had an a CEO injury in twenty
twenty four, so that could turn people off. But listen,
if that, if that doesn't bother you, you're you're getting a
great guy who's a run stuffer. Uh.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Once again, he's better defender. Uh.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
And you know in zone coverage than he is in
man coverage. But I still like him. It's just having
that that that ability to come downhill and match physicality
for physicality with downhill runners, you know. I mean Sean
Payton's always talking about downhill guys. So you need a
guy that saved the position, who will not shy away
from contact.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, Sean's got a privately he's got saying where he
talks about if we were having a party, who was
the last one to show up? Talking about people being
Willie tacklers. He's mentioned that with certain safeties before. I
don't think Winston's in any danger of being that dude,
it'd be one of the first guys to the party.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Why are you winging at me when you say that, I'm.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Not winking anything. I don't know. I'm just I'm not saying.
I'm just saying my number five. I've always got a
soft spot for former quarterbacks. Sebastian Castro out of Iowa
dual threat quarterback back in high school and then switch
to the defensive side of the ball once once he
got to college. Eight starts as a red shirt junior,
and that immediately put him on the radar. Played the

(09:33):
big nickel, played the cash defender, sixty seven tackles, eight
for a lost three picks that year. He's five eleven
two two, not exactly the largest in terms of size,
but earnest stripes on special teams. Worked his way up.
You love to see that Iowa guys come into the
league with high football. You know, you get a high
football like you gritty dude's who's willing to work, and

(09:54):
this guy is one of those. And then a former
quarterback always loved that because that means he understands a
game from a different point of view.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
When he's going over there to the he just goes
back to your army guy who uh yeah plays the quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
See yeah, say his name?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, Okay, Well.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
My number four is Texas safety Andrew mccooba.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
And here's what I like about mccooba.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
His his change in direction and this understanding of the game.
Because when you have someone playing in the center field,
they have to understand matchups where they're being attacked, they
have to understand down and distance. You need someone to
come out there and who could be a day one
leader and get in that huddle with men and understand
what's going on but still have enough ability to go

(10:38):
and do what you have to do. But the other
thing about about it too, Yeah, he's a good tackler,
but he understands angles. Football angles and pursue angles are
key to understand it to be great tacklers.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, he's also my number four, so we're on the
same okay. McCom was an immigrant from Zimbabwe. For those
who didn't know, he spent the first nine years of
his life they're in Zimbabwe before moving to Texas. When
he was in high school. Playb bethsides the balls. It
was a wide receiver, by the way, four hundred and
twenty seven yards six touchdowns change christ senior year. Well,
I'm just saying he understands how to catch a ball, yeah,
get hands on top of all those other things. So

(11:08):
you know, he certainly has playmaking ability, can probably be
used as a punt returner as well, and playing at
least three out of the four special teams units in
addition to being somebody that you love on your defense.
I love him at number four on the same page there.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
So this is okay. Now, now we get into the
top three. This is what things got a little interesting
for me. So I decided to go at three with
Xavier Watts out of Notre Dame six foot two and
three pounds. The one thing I love about him is
good closing speed right, And you make good closing speed
with good ball skills. And when you talk about playing

(11:41):
center field and getting takeaways, right, you have to be
able to do exactly what the receivers are doing anticipation
and tracking the ball in the air.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
He does a great job as far as ball skills.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
And if you watch him, like you know Ohio State game,
he's like always around the ball, right.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
You always want.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Those guys that seemed to be to smell and smell
turnovers and he's always around the ball. So for me,
he's versus very smart. For me, once again, here's another
guy who's very aggressive. Needs to work on I discipline.
That is something playing center field you have to make
sure you work on.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
My number three's probably going to surprise everybody I've got nick.
I'm a worry at number three. And the reason that
I do is I think he's a guy without a position.
He's an incredible athlete for three eight forty, you know,
there's a lot to like, but when you watch him,
it's almost like a dude without a position. You remember

(12:38):
Isaiah Simmons came out a couple of years ago. They
had a safety there. I'm at linebacker. They didn't where
to put him slot, you know whatever. They moved him
around and he wasn't really He was good at some things,
you know, in college, but he wasn't great at anything.
And then he got to the NFL and that was
sort of the problem, Like he was good at some things,
but he wasn't great at anything. I love the fact
that he's a quick mental process or he's got dog
mentality on all that, but I put him at three

(12:59):
because I am unsure what his position is at the
NFL level, and I'm not sure if if he really
is a safety, uh, if he's if he's more of
a man's on slot.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Now, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I don't know what he I don't know what he
is at the NFL level. And that Tweinier thing scares
me a little. Is he gonna make me look like
an idiot?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Maybe? But I put him at three.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Well, I actually have him at my number two because
when I think about his size and his speed, you know,
his size make reminds me of Cam Chancellor who played
for the Seattle Seahawks. Now Cam wasn't a four to
three like and Mmori, but he's a striker. He's got

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great size, closing speed. You know when you think of
when you think about it and you look at him,
he will remind you of the younger Steve at Water right.
And once again, the reason I'm making the count because
of the size itself and the physicality. Those are the
things that you want. Also great ball skills. H When

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you talk about dog mentality, he definitely has that. When
you talk about putting your face in the fan and
really putting your body on a guy, that's something that
he definitely possessed.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
So that's why I had had him.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
With my number, my number two, number two. Okay, well
my number two was Xavier Watts. You talked about him early.
I don't really have too much to add other than Watson.
Another guy who used to be a wide receiver got
got moved over, and I think that that helps him
out because you see some play recognition where he's jumping
routes before the quarterback is you know, his processed to
part of that's but that's understanding it from the offensive

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shide of the ball. I do think Watson a immediate
impact player, you know, and I think he's he's at
his best if you if you run a quarter scheme,
if you want like fixed scheme, I think that that's
that's probably his best fit overall. So I'd love to
see Watts, you know, go to the Eagles somebody like
that where he can he can match up and I
think we both have the same number one then here
out of Georgia.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, Malachot Starts. I really liked his kid. He's got
great football IQ. He was kind of the leader of
that Georgia's defense. He's a good tackler. Textbook tackler at that,
but obviously what you worry about when you see guys
who are good tacklers, you worry about do their aggression

(15:14):
put them in bad situations sometimes and sometimes for him,
Like I said, great tackler, but his eyes can put
you and put him in difficult situation. I remember several
years ago when Vance Joseph was the head coach of
the Denver Broncos, A lot of individuals in the media
made fun of something he said, because I don't believe
that they really truly understood exactly what he was meaning

(15:36):
when he said, you know, guys had bad eyes, and
you have.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
To be able to see places.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
The further you away from the ball, the more your
vision has to be because you have to see the
entire feel the closer you are right, things happen really quick.
You just have to be quick to adjust because you
can't take any false steps. So I like Malachi Starks.
He's a guy that I feel as though you can
put him in, you know, the deep middle and you

(16:01):
can bring him down in the box. And having that versatility, Uh,
that would be great. Like if if the Eagles were
not set in this state at the safety position, he
would fit well with the scheme that Vic Fangier runes.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, I mean one of the things about it, like
the ATHLETICSS some jumps off the tape. He didn't time
that well. I think it was like four or five
in the forty. But he looks faster than that. You
go back to high school, he was a ten to
five five hundred meter guy. He can run, you know,
And I think you're right. I think he does have
good instincts, good eyes that that helps out, uh, you know,
cover for for some areas with his athleticism. But started
for what three years, like forty one game something like that.

(16:37):
You know that that's that's.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
What he plays faster than his forties.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Right, he plays fastest and it's obvious from watching. So yeah,
both of us I think got him at the number one.
We got an NFL six pack. When we come back
Broncos Country Night, it's time for an NFL six pack.
It's time for the NFL six path.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm gonna trade the last beer.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
He insighted insight information you can't find anywhere else. No,
the top six NFL ad mind what Panthers backup quarterback
Andy Dalton bought a quote, very very very very low
percentage stake in Leeds United. On Monday, leads are in

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promotion back to the Premier League with a six to
zero win over Stoke combined with Burnley's two one win
over Sheffield United. As an investor, that was great, Dalton
said by Darren Gant of the team's website. By low,
he now has something very very very low percentage in
common with Panthers owner Dave Temper. Yeah, we have owners
meetings and stuff that we've got to go to, Dalton said.
Dalton called it a fun thing to invest in, though

(17:37):
he had never been to the city of Leeds or
to the their stadium, the home stadium of the club.
He also admits he doesn't know all the players. Dalton
did grow up playing soccer, knew all the rules, but
didn't become interested in the businesses the sport until watching
Amazon's Old or Nothing documentary about Manchester City's twenty eight
eighteen season. Excuse me, He's like, So I watched it.
I was just like, I kind of hooked. This is
sweet and you kind of figure out how the Premier

(17:59):
League works. Allegation of promotion. I don't know any of
that kind of stuff, so I'm like, all right, well,
they're playing a Premier League game, but now they're playing
an FAA Cup game, and now they're playing a Champions
League game. They just mixed games in so they're playing
three or four competitions as once. It's wild how the
whole thing works. What do we think about Andy Dalton
buying ownership in British professional soccer?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I really don't care too Nicholas about it.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I mean, look, it's great that he's buying something and
he's decided to use his money, I guess creatively investing
in other sports leagues. How much does it mean in
the grand scheme of things? And I don't know how much.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, I mean, I just thought it was one of
those funny stories, like we find out Andy Dalton, of
all people, own some of Leads.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Well it's like, okay, JJ Watt who was a co
owner of Burnley, Yeah, which as worse than Leads apparently
because Leeds got promoted.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
There you go, so I kept ragged rights on JJ Watt.
There are no trades in college football. However, two programs
have performed a defacto signal color swap Tennessee quarterback and
Go I Am Aliva transfer from Tennessee to Ucla. Ucla
quarterback Joey Aguilar now transferring to Tennessee. So from the
word of Peton nakos on on three dot com way

(19:12):
forced telene Ro also the mixed Aglaura transferred from Appalachian
State to UCLA earlier this year. Of course, it's one
of the most basic realities college football in the Anile era.
What do we think about Tennessee and Ucla swabing quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Well, Ben and I would think more of it once
we watch these two players at these new respective institutions
go out and play.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
This is the world of college football.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Now, the transfer portal and the nil and guys are
jumping into portal getting bad advice, trying to get that bag.
But it's no different than looking at the draft.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
It's not when you go is where you go.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
And sometimes you may chase the bag going to a
place that's going to give you more money, but it's
not a perfect.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Fit for you.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
So we'll just have to watch the season to see
how it pans out for both guys.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Do you know how much he's getting Nico at UCLA,
So that's less than he was getting it.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Less that he was getting in Tennessee three, Nick Cayley
is going to allow CJ. Stroud to take ownership of
the offense as requested Texans quarterbacks. CJ. Stroud won Offensive
Rookie of the Year under OFFENSI according to Bobby Sloan
in twenty three, but Stroud regressed in twenty four, costing
Slowaks job. Slowak is now in Miami, is the senior
passing game coordinator and replaced in Houston by Nick Kayley.

(20:27):
Stroud as for more ownership of the offense, and he
said Monday that kaylee scheme will allow him to take
control on the field. Stroud will do quote a little
bit more pre snap to put my guys in the
best position, something Stroud said he didn't work on the
last two years. I'm going to get what I want.
That's been really cool to see that Kaylee has brought me,
brought into me and he doesn't really know me all
that well yet he talked about it today having blind trust.

(20:50):
I have a lot of trust in him already. Stroud said.
Kaylee will change Houston's pre snap philosophy to allow the
quarterbacks to run the show, as both Matt Stafford and
Tom Brady did in Kaylee's pre stops. What do we
think about c J. Stroud, who's never done that before
doing that for the Texans this year, Well.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
It says a lot about how the organization views c J.
Stroud and giving him at this early stage of his
career pretty much running the mill of the offense and
basically with Bobby Slog being fire, that tells you everything
you need to know.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
They're looking at c J.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Stroud as being that guy and that quarterback to leave them,
and they're willing to give him the keys.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
So the call to let him drop also too.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Once again, look at coaching ties and look at systems
when you think about where Kaylee is coming from. He
spent some time with the Los Angeles Rams, so I'm
not too surprised that.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Demika Ryans and the Texans made this move.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, I just I think it fascinating And he hasn't
never done that at any level, and there's a blind
trust there. Nick Keley can always I guess, steal that
back if he needs to. But creating that relationship with
your quarterback, you don't a guy you don't know be like, yeah,
I'm gonna open it up to you. See if you
can handle it. I think that's the right way to
do it. You can always pull the rates back in,
but though, you know, why not, why not have that
kind of faith in your new quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'm a fan of offensive coordinators allowing their quarterbacks input
because you're trying to build a system that fits him,
not fits you, right, Because there's a reason you're standing
on the sideline with the clipboard and he's out there playing, right,
So acquiesce to him a little figure out what he
wants and implement those types of plays and make him successful.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Right, And that's to me, that's the thing. You know,
we always talks about maximizing the players. Let players maximize
themselves too, you know, you know what they need to
give him? What some protection from the offensive line? That
would be that too. Four oh Ashton chant sees his
window as six through twelve in the draft. Chanty widely
believed to be the best running back the draft class.

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In three days, we'll find out where he lands. On
Monday afternoon, Chanty visited with Pro Football Talk, and he
said that he believes that the highest he'll be drafted
a six to the Raiders, and the lowest spot would
be twelve to the Cowboys possibility. Raiders taking Jenny at
six opens the door to someone trading up the five
with the Jaguars, obviously, but it's also not hard to
wonder whether the Giants coat owner John Morrow be tempted

(23:09):
to try to rectify last year's Secone Barkley blunder, although
we think he's gonna go to a different direction. Yes,
if the Giants pass on Janty, he could end up
in the NFC East with the Cowboys. Regardless of where
he lands, Janty could end up being an NFL superstar.
That happens won't matter where he got picked, and whoever
passed on him, we will regret it most they get a
superstar of their own. Do you think about Janty's saying
he's probably going six through twelve in the draft?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Boy, I would love to say that he's calling his shot,
but it goes without saying. He is arguably one of
the better backs or players from any personne a group
in this draft, and it would be blasphemous in my opinion,
for a team that needs running back help and you're
on the clot to not take him. This is one

(23:54):
of those picks. If the Raiders are on the clot
and Janet is still there. They shouldn't take a lot
fifteen minutes to make this selection. Roger Davis, who comes
into Poetum Raiders are on the clot thirty seconds later,
he's coming right back.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
The Raiders have made their pick and it's assid gent.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
They're not even walking that cart up, They're firing it
up there like a ninja star. Yes, five, this one's
interesting to me, maybe only me. Falcons have added yet
another quarterback. They have signed Eastern Stick, who spent the
last six seasons with the Chargers, signed with the Falcons
day Stick was with the Chargers when they drafted him
in twenty nineteen. Barely played, had won four game stretch

(24:33):
in twenty twenty three where he filled in for the
injured Justin Herbert for five games. Chargers, of course, lost
all five of those games. Michael Pennix Junior will start
a quarterback for the Falcons season, and at the moment,
Kirk Cousins is sitting there at number two. Stick would
likely compete with Emery Jones, formerly of the University of Cincinnati,
the third quarterback spot. It is still possible the Cousins
will be moved and Stick will have a chance to

(24:54):
get for the number two spot. Falcons offseason program against tomorrow,
and Stick's signing just in time to participate. The Falcons
reportedly are asking for the acquiring team to take twenty
million dollars of kirk Cousins contract and what essentially would
be a trade that we dated post June first for
cap situations, do we think that kirk Cousins actually gets traded?

(25:16):
And do we care about Easton Stick being Michael Pennox's
back up because that looks perilously thin behind Pennix at
this point with Stick and Embry Jones.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Well, I mean Stick coming in is only for that
purpose to beat some of the backup. And even with
Terry Fontineau saying putting out there, I guess from teams
standpoint that they're looking for another team the trade partner
to eat twenty million of kirk Cousins cash.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
The idea is, why would you do that.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
The only reason you do that unless you're desperate for
Kirk Cousins and based on what we've seen over the
past two years of kirk Cousins, it's not worth it.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
So, I mean, why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
If I'm the Falcons, I'll take a Haym sandwich for
Kirk Cousins at this point, just get the money off
the books. But the question, I guess, the real question though,
is is Panicks is an unproved commodity. And he had
a couple of flashes, I guess, but there was nothing
there that said and told me that this is the dude. Well,
they just drafted him to be the guys who make
it the shot.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
There may not have.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Been a seven large sand besides to say that he
is the dude. But we have seen enough from Kirk
Cousins to know that he is not to do.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's not about this isn't about Cousins. I'm saying, you
got you're a Falcons team that ostensibly you think you're
going to compete in in that division. You got Penix,
you don't know what he is, and the two guys
behind him, you know what they are and they aren't
it whether it's Kirk Cousins, Eastern Stick or Embry Jones.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
But the the die has already been cast. You go
back to that game against the Washington Commanders where the
Falcons almost won that game if it wasn't for late
game heroics by Jane Daniels. So there's a belief that, hey,
we found our quarterback.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Well, let me go step further with this. Should the
Falcons have drafted quarterback given that their backups are probably
Eastern Stick and every.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Jones should Should they have draft?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Should they draft a quarterback this year?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
No?

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I mean if they take one, obviously you're taking one fourth,
fifth round.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
That that's what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Maybe a Will Levis Well, Will's already in the pros. Sorry,
I mean Will Howard. I think he's going to the Raiders.
But yeah, there's something like that, like a Kyle mccourr.
Somebody later to me, I would have gone out and
got a veteran. I got savvy veteran Easton Stick who's
lost for the all five games he's ever played. It
is not a savvy veteran who was the same.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
If Jalen Milroll is still on the clock and they say.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
On the board fourth round, they may take a flyer
on it.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Maybe is there a realistic possibility that Kirk Cousins is
on the Falcons at the beginning of this season.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
I don't think. I don't think Kirk Cousins will be.
I mean, like they may own his contracts still but
he will probably not show up at that point.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Twenty million dollars, you're asking another team to asking the
team because you made a bad deal.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
You try, You trying to tell somebody else to take
him at this point, ridiculous. I didn't know how to
get into this room, so we're gonna try and get it.
This one here, Shannon Sharp, right away, I get grimaces
for everybody. Suit on Sunday for assault, sexual battery, battery,

(28:04):
intentional affliction of emotional distress. Sharp has fired back. His lawyer,
Lanny Davis, has issued a statement characterizing the civil suit
as a blatant and cynical attempt to shake down mister
Sharp from millions of dollars, claiming the litigation has been
orchestrated by her attorney. You'll never guess Tony Busby Shocker,
Davis says of the civil litigation, it's filled with lies, distortions,

(28:26):
and misrepresentations and will not succeed. Davis contents the plaintiff's
secretly recorded video of consensual sexual encounter in order to
falsely portray a consensual sexual act as non consensual. Davis
claims the video was heavily edited and taken entirely out
of context, and the plaintiff has refused to provide a
copy of the full United aversion to Sharp's lawyers. Davis

(28:48):
added that Shena Sharp believes her secret tape and was
all part of a plan set up as part of
a blackmail scheme. Davis says Sharp categorically denies all allegations
of coercion or misconduct, especially the gross lie of rape,
and will not submit to what he sees as an
egregious attempt at blackmail and will fight these false claims
vigorously at court. Based on Davis's statement, the case could
in any respects boil down to a jury's interpretation of

(29:10):
the video that was presented to Sharp's lawyers in the
unedited version, Sharp will automatically be entitled to the United
version on request, and both sides will then have a
chance to argue what it reflects and what it means
the video. If the video points to a non consensual,
consensual encounter, She's farm elected to win. If video supports
the notion that was consensual's farm elected to lose. I
will say the lawyer released a bunch of the text messages,

(29:32):
or at least her side of the text, and didn't
release his side, and they were certainly very graphic about
various different things that she wanted to do for and
to mister Sharp and have him do to her. What
do you think about the allegations against Shannon Sharp? This
is this is not the woman he accidentally Instagram live. Ye,

(29:54):
this woman started this, was seeing him at the time
and started this after that Instagram live happened.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh, this is crazy, and it's unfortunate that Shannon finds
himself mixed in this, and this could happen to a
lot of people. But when you establish name and fame
for yourself, people are always gunning for you. I don't
know what's fact, I don't know what's fiction, but I
know it was kind of interesting to see. The attorney

(30:21):
on this case was Tony Busby, and obviously we know
the name from the Deshaun Watson situation. And it just
seems as though Buzzby is always in the center of
these types of scandals, if you will.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
He's the lawyer for people that are suing professional athletes
for sexual misconduct.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
And once again, I don't know the details, whether they're
true or false, but you could just imagine being a
well known person and Shannon's was known from his football,
you know, career, but doing this podcast, he's blown up
even more where someone would even set you up to
even have a videotape at all seen videotapes in our

(31:02):
past of how individuals leaked tapes like this and it
jumpstarts them to superstardom. So maybe I don't know who
this woman is, but maybe that was her thing. Maybe
extortion was the thing.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I don't know. I just know it's a bad look
for my.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Dude, our guy, someone who I know, And I just hope,
once again, once all the stories and the process has
gone through, it comes to pass that this was someone's
idea of trying to take him down, and I just
hope that it's not true.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, for Buzzby Phillis, who don't know. Buzby was a
former Battalian commander of the Naval ROTC midship. At Battalion,
he did serve and the Texas a Andem Cora Cadets.
That's where he went to college. He ran for mayor
in Houston and lost to to Semester Turner, who won
the who won the election. Yeah, he's the guy who's
suing Puffy. He's the guy who's suing jay Z. He's

(31:54):
the guy who are representing the people who are suing them.
I guess I should say Deshaun Watson. M pretty sure
he's involved.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
With names in the mix for all this, all of it.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, So, I mean, he's a very very successful attorney,
but his name is in the middle of all of
these kinds of things, and so it's it's kind of
interesting to see how it's always you know, anytime somebody's
seeing somebody and then I see and it's represented by it,
I'm like, here we go.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yep, And you don't want to call someone an ambulance chaser.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
But it's just wild that he finds himself in the
niche of yes, that that is, that is is his niche,
and he kind of goes after it. So I don't know,
it's unfortunate for everyone on both both sides. But obviously
I heard about it. There are people I know who
close to the situation that they have their own opinions
on it.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I just hope that it's not true.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I hope it's not true too. You know, you never
want somebody to be guilty of those kinds of things.
But uh, anyway, we'll see it was. It was just
fascinating to read this today. For the rebuttal back from
the attorney, I mean released some graphic graphic text messages
regarding that stuff, you know, So it was it was
just it was interesting.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I guess it would be more with these smartphones.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yep, yep, yep. So a Broncos country tonight, RESO, that's
a a stoop ball.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Why are you winking at me when you say that?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
What m
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