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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now back to Charleston This Morning News.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I respect my colleagues in terms of they want to
negotiate right and get the best bill that we possibly
can put on the floor. But at the end of
the day, we have absolutely got to pass this.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Joining me live. One of those standing in the way
of that big, beautiful bill, South Carolina's US Representative, Ralph Norman.
That is your Michigan congresswoman colleague there, Lisa McLean. What
is your response to that?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh, I agree with Lisa. I mean, she's a great representative.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I don't want to stand in the way, and we
won't stand in the way. It's the bill for your listeners, Kelly,
the bill is going to pass now. I would not
be doing my job if I didn't get the best
deal possible, mainly with putting some cuts in there that
every conservative campaign's owned conservatism and this, you know, the
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original bill just did. That's why my no vote Now,
I think your listeners need to know too. This wasn't
the last shot that we had. I knew we could
bring it back up reconsider it, which is what we did. Now,
what was I fighting for. Well, I think we've got
a spending problem in this country. I think we've been
downgraded three times. I think we're on a path that's unsustainable.
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So what did I fight for? And it was three others?
Wasn't just me, Chip Roy and Andrew Clyde Georgia and
Josh ur keing. But bottom line, and if any of
your listeners, do you believe that those who are able
bodied and choose not to work sixty five and under
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with no children should get a paycheck from the federal
government and not do anything. Do you think illegals should
get a paycheck from the federal government when we're bankrupt.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And so what we've had, what we wanted to put
into this big, big, beautiful bill is take them off
the rolls. Now, I'm not inflexible. It would take time.
The original bill had four in five years to take
them off. That's not good enough. Let's take them off immediately. Well,
I didn't get that. At the end of twenty six
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they will come off the rolls. All these subsidies. As
an example of the seven thousand dollars tax on electric cars,
the wind in solar credits, you know, the elect the
air conditioned credits. I mean, the list goes on and on.
These subsjetutes have been in effect for thirty and thirty
five years. Should they be continuing that. No, let the
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private sector do that. So we got forty percent of
those out, and I would and President Trump, by the way,
campaigned on this take them out day one. So we've
got them out over three years, which I'm willing to
settle for that. But I wouldn't be doing my job
if I just went along to say, well, let's just
keep spending, let's get another downgrade, and let's hit a
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brick wall when no one buys our bonds. I'm just
not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So South Carolina, as US Representative Ralph Norman live here
on ninety four to three WS, you just heard McLean
say ninety five percent of the bill is done. What's
the five percent that's not? You laid out a few
things there. I know President Trump is coming to speak
to y'all live. Do you expect him to speak to
you one on one?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh, I'd be glad to speak with him. Look, I've
been with him a good bit and I think the
world of Donald Trump. What he's done for this country
is amazing. We're fighting for him. Now. It's a matter
of you know, look at what we did was did
we delay it for two days? Yes? Did we pass
at Sunday night at eleven o'clock, Yes, we passed it.
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I voted to vote it. I wouldn't didn't kill it there,
nor would I. It goes to rules. Now I'm gonna
get the I'm gonna make the best deal I can
with cuts. Not something for Ralph Norman, not something for
a pet project of mind, something for the country. And
I was on another show earlier. This is more than
each congressman covering their bases to make sure they're re elected.
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If people do not re elect me because I try
to get illegals off the rolls or dead beats who
don't work, then so be it. I will take that.
But I'm just you know, there is something to say
for physical sanity, and this is one time to do it,
particularly Kelly with reconciliation. We're not gonna have this time again.
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If your listeners, that's when one party controls the House
to send it in the White House. We do all three,
which is a rarity, and why not take advantage of it.
But the bill's going to pass it'll be a better
bill because we were willing to say I'm just not
going along to get along, and you know, if we
get punished for that, then so be it.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Talking big beautiful bill backlash with a a Native Norman
who is one of a handful of Republican lawmakers saying
no or present to Trump's big beautiful bill. So where
did we get with the Moodies downgrading? What is this
our third? This is just horrifically in my opinion, catastrophic
fiscally for us and kicking this can down the road,
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which you mentioned. We have a trifecta to finally do
something about this. Are we though, because this didn't really
cut a whole lot of spending, are we actually going
to see some cuts?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, you know, yes, but it's a tear drop in
the ocean. I think when you pull it, eighty two
percent of American people know we have a problem. There
are sixteen countries that have a higher debt rating than
the leader of than the country that leads a free
world America. Sixteen countries, and we just don't keep doing
the same thing and expect a different result. No, So
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I mean I don't and this just isn't that hard.
I totally about the caucus not long ago. If I
had to fight for this. Is this not a given
that you know again it should illegals get a government paycheck? No,
And you know it just goes to show you once
you give somebody something, it's just hard to take it
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back when they can get by with that. I thank
god South Carolina has a constitutional member that you have
to balance the budget. We would be in the same
shape of the federal like the federal government if we
let that go. And I'm just not willing to do that.
Now there is a time to negotiate. Then there's a
time to move it on. This bill has got too
many great things and you think I'm going to stop
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the whole thing. No, I wouldn't, but we've got to
take time to get it. And you know when you say,
if people say you stopped it, well it's worth stopping
it for two days, three days. It's gonna sit in
the Senate anyway, and they're gonna come back with god
knows what. But bottom line, you know, the House controls
the person, and I have a duty to the people
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that put me in office to do the best I
can to cut spending, and again, we don't have an
income problem. We got a spending problem, and they spend
rifts who you know, will take every dime free dollars
that they get. I'm sorry that day's over with and
Donald Trump is leading the charge on.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That talking big beautiful bill with South Carolina US Representative
Rough Norman live here on ninety fourth three WS. The
deadline has been set. It sounds like for Trump's Big
Beautiful Bill to pass out of the House by Memorial Monday.
Where do you see this? You say we've got.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
The votes, Well, we'll see. Last night I was with
the Speaker and he's I like Mike, he's doing a
good job. We had the red, the blue states, those California, which,
by the way, in the poster child for physical sanity,
New York, which isn't the postal child for physical sanity.
They were all given their reasons, and I get that.
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I get that. You know, we want to have the majority.
If we do the right thing, we will keep the
majority and build on it. If we fold and give
in to the things this simple, it's just not that hard.
Do I think we have the votes now?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I do not do. I think that that's an end
all and the end of the world. No, the sun's
going to come up. And you know, if we have
to take I mean it's fourteen hundred pages. I can't
read that in you know, in a day. We were
supposed to vote on this big beautiful bill. Get this
at one o'clock tomorrow night. We're supposed to have it,
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you know, take it through rules, and then vote on
it the next day so people can get out of
here and go home. I was up here Sunday, A
couple of us came up here. What that's what we're
paid to do. And if we have to delay it
a few days, and I know my more all day
is a day, but okay, you know I want to
make some changes so that we save them there, people
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from physical insanity. And you know it's if this were
a heavy lift, that would be one thing, but it's
gotten to be a monumental lift and it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
All right, well, keep us up to date. To South
Carolina's US representative for
Speaker 3 (09:13):
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