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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Traffic and weather every ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
This is Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and plays on
ninety four to three WSC.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It really all boils down to continued battles in both
the House and the Senate in Congress in DC over
the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Welcome in, We're covering this morning's top stories. Senate Majority
Leader John Thune is seeking to overturn California's electric vehicle mandate.
Last year, under the Biden administration, the Environmental Protection Agency
have proved a California state rule requiring all new cars
sold in the state to be electric or otherwise not
(00:40):
omitting by twenty thirty five. Now, the Senate plans to
use a tool known as the Congressional Review Act to
ax the EPA approval of the California mandate. However, it
defies an existing ruling as the Senate Parliamentarian in houses
Government Accountability Office have determined that the waiver is not
(01:01):
a rule and therefore is not subject to the Congressional
Review Act.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh boy, so similar things when it comes to these
ev Basically, the green new scam are in the Big
Beautiful Bill and not funding them, and this is a
fight back and forth, and in fact, this time yesterday,
we're live with Congressman Ralph Norman, who's a no over
in Congress, who still debate as of right now this
(01:29):
morning on the Big Beautiful Bill, and the Senate's doing
their own version and they're going to have to go
back and forth on this. But he found himself because
he was on the nose side of this with California
Democrats meeting with House Speaker Mike Johnson and New York
Democrats pushing back on things like this on the government
(01:49):
rebates of these programs.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Well, that's part of the Big Beautiful Bill. This is separate, though,
this is trying to overturn an EPA rule using the
Congression Review Act. And now they're saying that because it's
not a rule that you know, so they're living in
the shadows here. But so they're trying to reverse an
(02:12):
earlier EPA decision on you know, this electric car mandate
for California. Now in the Big Beautiful Bill, you know,
they're talking about the subsidies that they're providing for the
conversion to electric vehicle use.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The green New scam or old scam at this point, well,
either way, it goes back to it's all tied. Follow
the dollars, follow the money. And of course they're going
to push back. I mean, this is the name of
the game. And at the end of the day, House Senate,
White House Republicans yet again have been handed an opportunity.
Will they seize it? Can they seize it? To your
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point of the pushback here legislatively, legally and otherwise.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Well, it's just stupid. And they talk about the harm
you So they talk about all this harm that the
talks of that President Trump's talks of tariffs do. But
when you start like mandating electric vehicles, and think about
this as far as trucking goes, and they've already had
a wave rules in not only California but other states
that you know, we're implementing all electric trucks that can't
(03:19):
haul for any kind of great distance. And I mean
it just screws everything up. And if you're a trucking
company and you know what you're adding to your fleet,
of course doesn't that make your decision? It confuses your decision?
All right, what's going to happen here? Right? And are
we going to be mandated to go along with this?
Are we not? What are the rules going to be
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And the Democrats aren't concerned with the confusion that they
sew with all of this stuff, but they're very concerned
with the confusion that Trump sews with, you know, his
tariff talk well.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Or the fiscal impact of it. Back to the dollars.
We actually a listener who still streams a via the
iHeartRadio app free to download today. All you have to
do is follow at nine four to three WSC like
he does, sent me some pictures of a manufacturing These
are these electric trucks that you're talking about in Georgia,
in neighboring Georgia. And actually the pictures were around a
(04:19):
message saying I just bought a new truck and I said,
is that an electric? And we're talking about an overhauler
big rig and I said, is that an electric? Oh no,
but there is one here in Georgia. I took pictures
and sent pictures of the trucks in the manufacturer that's
set up in Georgia as we speak.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, I mean, well, they just don't have the capacity
to go great distances, which is what you want a
truck to do when you're delivering goods to the US market.
So the government needs to stay out of it, you
know what, And if a manufacturer comes up with a clean, efficient, electric,
affordable electric vehicle, whether it be a truck or a
(04:55):
passenger car or whatever it is, then let it compete
in the marketplace and let the best ideas and the
best products win instead of you know, all of these mandating,
all of this mandating by the federal government.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Forced failed mandates.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Well that's why I always think, you know, the government
should stay out of it, and the economy, the market
will correct itself way more efficiently, way sooner, provide better
products in a better outcome than the government could ever
hope to do.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
This is Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Plays Facts
at five.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Welcome back, Michael Blaze.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Thanks, it's good to be back. We'll cover in this
morning's top stories. The House of Representatives has been working overnight.
Is that GOP tries to push through President Trump's budget priorities.
The spending bill must first make it through the Rules Committee,
which started meeting at around one am Eastern time. President
Trump met with House Republicans Tuesday at an effort to
shore up support for the bill, threatening those who don't
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back him with getting knocked out so fast. According to
the President, the GOP can only afford three no votes
from its members if all Democrats remain opposed. Some conservatives
feel the bill doesn't make enough cuts to spending. The
Nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates the original
version of the bill would add three point three trillion
(06:18):
dollars to the deficit.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So one of the hold outs is Congressman Ralph Norman,
who was live here in the seven o'clock hour yesterday
and I replayed some of it in the eight o'clock
hour here yesterday, and he said, we have an opportunity
now to stand for cuts to our budget. We have
a spending problem. This opportunity has not been taken, frankly
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by the controlled Republican controlled House Senate, and frankly the presidency.
Lasco around with President Trump, and you've got Chip Roy
along with Norman, and I forget the third. There were five,
so they're slowly getting picked off, and Representative Norman eventually said,
I think we should work through the weekend. It's a
fourteen hundred page bill. This is what we're elected to do,
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is to be here, hunkered down and work, even though
it's Memorial Monday. But you see they're pushing through the
night and into the morning this morning, I mean they
literally started this morning.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah. But so he also said that he's not going
to stand in the way of the bill. So you
say he's a holdout, and he presents himself that way,
but then he says he's not going to not let
the bill pass.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So I have a hard time believing that three holdouts
are going to And we'll see. So we'll hear from
the Representative Ralph Norman here coming up and he can
lay out his own I found about twenty thirty seconds
where he explains why, now this is what you know,
we're representative of our constituents to do. Now put, his
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constituents are pushing back and saying pass the big beautiful bill,
which in the un he says he will. But he's
willing to take a stand, even if it means working
all the way through the long Memorial weekend, because they're
going to kick it over to the Senate and people
like Massy are going to send back who knows what.
But it's the House of Representatives that controls the purse
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strings and of course also aided by the Senate or
depending depending on what they kick back. I mean Senator
Massy has his own things he's standing on.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, well in Ralph Norman, I mean, you can say
he's you know, taking a stand, but then at the
end of the day he says he's not going to
get in the way.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So I just wonder if he's going to get his
way and he's going to force people to work through
the weekend on this. Somehow I'm skeptical.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You're listening to Charleston's Morning News on ninety four to
three WSC.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Now back to Kelly and Blaze.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
You'll have a sixty eight percent tax increase, or you'll
get a massive tax increase. You'll get a tax cut
the likes of which we've never had. This is bigger
than any Ronald Reagan tax cut. It's even bigger than
the tax cut.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
That I get new the Sporting Congress over in the House,
still debating the big beautiful bill. Welcome into a Wednesday
edition of the program here in ninety four to three WSC.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Well, they have a lot of debating to.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Dot's sixty eight tax increase.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well, if they let this sunset, you know, the President
Trump's original tax cuts will expire this year, So if
they don't do anything. Taxes are going up, and it'll
be the biggest tax increase in modern day history.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's a no brainer. This has to pass.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah. Well, and this is the danger of lumping it
all together, right, because if it doesn't pass, then taxes
are going up.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Well, and it deals with tax cuts, it deals with
border security. To your point of lumping it all together,
there are so many issues.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean, so people wanted to, you know, do
separate bills for all of this. Some did, but then again,
you know, sometimes you have to act boldly and swiftly
to fix things and get things done. So that's what
they're trying to do. Otherwise you would operate like every
other administration, where you know, they move at a snail's pace,
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and a lot of the things that they wanted to
get done they simply don't. They run out of time.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Well, yet we continued to complain when they kicked the
fiscal can down the road of spending us into oblivion,
which is a national security threat to our country and
being under the thumb of China financially. So and I
remember Lasco around or the trub administration. People were pretty
upset when there was no spending restraints and cuts of
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a significant amount with regards to balancing our federal budget
Alaska around when Republicans controlled the House, Senate and White House.
So if they don't stand now, then win.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Well I don't know, but I don't think you can
get all of this done and balance the budget at
the same time. I mean, it seems to me that
would be an impossible task.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well, we'll find out. It's continuing to unfold. And I
mentioned Ralph Norman's one of the holdouts. He is the
only South Carolina member in the House and joined us
here on ninety four to three WSC Live yesterday ahead
of Well, there was a Friday vote. They were up
there in DC on Friday, and this is in the
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Budget Committee of which he's a member of and he
voted no, and then he showed up over the weekend
and voted present. Now we're debating it out and then
there where I believe three holdouts. At this point, he's
one of three. I know Comer is another one of them,
and I can't find the third guy. But at the
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end of the day, we'll see. We'll see if the
hold out he's already said, and we'll hear from him
coming up that he's not going to hold out forever.
There's too much good stuff in here. No tax on tips,
no tax on overtime, no tax on social Security.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Well, and a lot of this will I mean, you
have to wonder too when they say, all right, it's
going to cost the economy this much, or you know
it's going to add to the debt by this much.
I mean, is it really so in the past when
tax cuts have been implemented and you make some of
these changes the coffers and it's already happening, are work there.
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The federal government is collecting more money than ever, so
you know there, So it's spending is the problem. And
I want to see each one of these congressmen really
stand on principle and vote against something that's bringing money
to their district because they are so principled and they're
finally making a stand, and if not now, when it's never,
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it's never on something that is going to prevent my
money from coming to their district. So that's when I'll
know that they're telling the truth and that they're sincere
in their efforts.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Well, to Congressman Norman's point, this is money being siphoned
out of his district. That shouldn't be that's going for
Medicaid checks, for example, to people who are in our
country illegally. So if you want to look at it
that way, that's at least how he's looking at it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Well, my point is is that and so he says
he's a standout on it, and then but he's really not.
And so I mean, at the end of the day,
what does all of that mean. I guess, you know, Well,
we'll give him the chance to say it in his
own words. That's coming up next.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Your news, traffic, weather, and Information station. This is Charleston's
Morning News on ninety four to three WSC.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Now back to Kelly and Blaze.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
And the ongoing live battle in DC. This morning started
at one a m. With congress members like Ralph Norman,
who joined the program around this time yesterday, who is
one of the key holdouts of Republican representative here out
of the Palmetto State. He says, this cuts no spending,
it increases our debt. The President's big beautiful bill he's
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holding out. He really wants Medicaid work requirements, claims twenty
five million able bodied Americans are getting checks and that
there should be work requirements with regards to medicaid. He
wants to stop our federal tax dollars from landing in
the hands of illegal migrants who don't pay into our system.
(14:41):
And so at the end of the day, I said,
you know, with all the holdouts and all the blustering,
do you really think we're going to see in any
cuts when it comes to spending in this bill?
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Well, you know, yes, but it's a two drop in
the ocean eighty I think when you poll it, eighty
two percent of American people know we have a problem.
There are sixteen countries that have a higher debt rating
than the leader of than the country that leads the
free world America. Sixteen countries and we just going to
keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. No,
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So I mean I don't And this just isn't that hard.
I told the Becaucus not long ago, if I had
to fight for this, is this not a given that
you know again it should illegals get a government paycheck? No,
And you know it just goes to show you once
you give somebody something, it's just hard to take it
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back when they can get by with that. I thank God,
South Carolina has a constitutional a membent that you have
to balance the budget. We would be in the same
shape of the federal like the federal government if we
let that go. And I'm just not willing to do that.
Now there is a time to negotiate, then there's a
time to moving on. This bill has got too many
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great things. And you think I'm going to stop the
whole thing. No, I wouldn't, but we've got to take
time to get it. And you know when you say,
if people say you stopped it, well it's worth stopping
it for two days, three days. It's gonna sit in
the Senate anyway, and they're gonna come back with god
knows what. But bottom line, you know, the House controls
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the purse rings, and I have a duty to the
people that put me in office to do the best
I can to cut spending. And again, we don't have
an income proble. We got a spending problem. And they
spend riffs who you know will take every dime free
dollars that they get. I'm sorry that day's over with.
And Donald Trump is leading the charge on that.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So to be continued, Well, I mean, what is he
doing to stop it? Is he introduced to any kind
of legislation to U, you know, or amendments.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
To the bill, I would imagine, So I can't answer
that I don't have that in front of me, spac.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
All I see in all of the news stories that
I've read is that, you know, these guys are Enopeian,
you know, because of the because there's not enough spending cuts.
But I haven't seen what they're doing necessarily to try.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
To correct that well, And just because it isn't being
reported doesn't mean it isn't happening. He isn't on the
you know, the House Fiscal Budget Committee, And this is
why he was back up on Friday, and this is
why he's pushing back saying, I don't mind staying through
the weekend. I know it's Memorial weekend, but this is
a fourteen hundred page bill, and if we don't work
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on this now, we're not going to get another opportunity,
or we might not have another opportunity down the road
with a Republican controlled House, Senate and White House. So
I'm just I'm not saying I agree with At the
end of the day, he's already said I'm going to
vote this through, right, So.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I don't get what you know, what if you're in
a negotiations, he's making a political point and he wants
to run for South Carolina governor. And I'm not attacking
Ralph Norman, but this is what politicians to. So, oh,
he's not going to stand in the way of the bill.
So if you're in a negotiation and at the end
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of the day you say, you know what, this deal
is going to go through anyway, you just took the
thunder out of any kind of position you have at
the negotiating table, and you're just I'm trying to think
of a pandering Well, no, I was trying to think
of a cleaner way to put it than what I
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was originally going to put it. You know, you're just
you're you're shouting into the wind, and think of that,
and with the P word into the wind, because otherwise, what.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Are you doing?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
What are you doing pandering in some way you already
and not in some ways to say that you're not
going to stand in the way of this, but you're
going to stall it. What at the end of the
day does that accomplished other than you're trying to get
So no, he's just getting some more words in.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
The trying to get more people on his side, more
Republicans who claim to be fiscal Republicans on his side.
And I go back to, you know, pre Biden and
Trump first administration, how frustrated everybody was with the Republican
House controlled Senate as well as the White House, and
they did nothing to fix the fiscal problem in our country.
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So there's part of me that agrees with his stand
on this right now. Now, is he going to get anywhere?
Maybe not, but at least he's taken the stand. I mean,
Chip Roy, I where get Pip Roy? He's another one
that I respect.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
This is my point. At the end of the day,
if you already say wow, I'll end up supporting it
at the end of the day anyway, then where are
you going to get with it?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well? Why not? Why not find out that answer by trying?
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I mean, that's because it makes absolutely no sense at all.
That's why I don't. So why don't you sit down
at the negotiating table next time you buy a house
or a car, why don't you tell the party that
you're buying it from, that you're going to go, that
you're going to pay their price at the end of
the day. But you're going to make some other point
in the meantime. It's like, what what what does that
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accomplish at all? You might as well sign it right now.
That's what you're saying. You're gonna do well.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Time is going to tell how this all shakes out.
I'm curious what you think. Seven to two one talk
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
It really all boils down to continued battles in both
the House and the Senate in Congress in DC over
the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Welcome in, We're covering this morning's top stories. Senate Majority
Leader John Thune is seeking to overturn California's electric vehicle mandate.
Last year, under the Biden administration, the Environmental Protection Agency
have proved a California state rule requiring all new cars
sold in the state to be electric or otherwise not
(00:40):
omitting by twenty thirty five. Now, the Senate plans to
use a tool known as the Congressional Review Act to
ax the EPA approval of the California mandate. However, it
defies an existing ruling as the Senate Parliamentarian in houses
Government Accountability Office have determined that the waiver is not
(01:01):
a rule and therefore is not subject to the Congressional
Review Act.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh boy, so similar things when it comes to these
ev Basically, the green new scam are in the Big
Beautiful Bill and not funding them, and this is a
fight back and forth, and in fact, this time yesterday,
we're live with Congressman Ralph Norman, who's a no over
in Congress, who still debate as of right now this
(01:29):
morning on the Big Beautiful Bill, and the Senate's doing
their own version and they're going to have to go
back and forth on this. But he found himself because
he was on the nose side of this with California
Democrats meeting with House Speaker Mike Johnson and New York
Democrats pushing back on things like this on the government
(01:49):
rebates of these programs.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Well, that's part of the Big Beautiful Bill. This is separate, though,
this is trying to overturn an EPA rule using the
Congression Review Act. And now they're saying that because it's
not a rule that you know, so they're living in
the shadows here. But so they're trying to reverse an
(02:12):
earlier EPA decision on you know, this electric car mandate
for California. Now in the Big Beautiful Bill, you know,
they're talking about the subsidies that they're providing for the
conversion to electric vehicle use.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The green New scam or old scam at this point, well,
either way, it goes back to it's all tied. Follow
the dollars, follow the money. And of course they're going
to push back. I mean, this is the name of
the game. And at the end of the day, House Senate,
White House Republicans yet again have been handed an opportunity.
Will they seize it? Can they seize it? To your
(02:51):
point of the pushback here legislatively, legally and otherwise.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Well, it's just stupid. And they talk about the harm
you So they talk about all this harm that the
talks of that President Trump's talks of tariffs do. But
when you start like mandating electric vehicles, and think about
this as far as trucking goes, and they've already had
a wave rules in not only California but other states
that you know, we're implementing all electric trucks that can't
(03:19):
haul for any kind of great distance. And I mean
it just screws everything up. And if you're a trucking
company and you know what you're adding to your fleet,
of course doesn't that make your decision? It confuses your decision?
All right, what's going to happen here? Right? And are
we going to be mandated to go along with this?
Are we not? What are the rules going to be
(03:42):
And the Democrats aren't concerned with the confusion that they
sew with all of this stuff, but they're very concerned
with the confusion that Trump sews with, you know, his
tariff talk well.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Or the fiscal impact of it. Back to the dollars.
We actually a listener who still streams a via the
iHeartRadio app free to download today. All you have to
do is follow at nine four to three WSC like
he does, sent me some pictures of a manufacturing These
are these electric trucks that you're talking about in Georgia,
in neighboring Georgia. And actually the pictures were around a
(04:19):
message saying I just bought a new truck and I said,
is that an electric? And we're talking about an overhauler
big rig and I said, is that an electric? Oh no,
but there is one here in Georgia. I took pictures
and sent pictures of the trucks in the manufacturer that's
set up in Georgia as we speak.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, I mean, well, they just don't have the capacity
to go great distances, which is what you want a
truck to do when you're delivering goods to the US market.
So the government needs to stay out of it, you
know what, And if a manufacturer comes up with a clean, efficient, electric,
affordable electric vehicle, whether it be a truck or a
(04:55):
passenger car or whatever it is, then let it compete
in the marketplace and let the best ideas and the
best products win instead of you know, all of these mandating,
all of this mandating by the federal government.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Forced failed mandates.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Well that's why I always think, you know, the government
should stay out of it, and the economy, the market
will correct itself way more efficiently, way sooner, provide better
products in a better outcome than the government could ever
hope to do.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
This is Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Plays Facts
at five.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Welcome back, Michael Blaze.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Thanks, it's good to be back. We'll cover in this
morning's top stories. The House of Representatives has been working overnight.
Is that GOP tries to push through President Trump's budget priorities.
The spending bill must first make it through the Rules Committee,
which started meeting at around one am Eastern time. President
Trump met with House Republicans Tuesday at an effort to
shore up support for the bill, threatening those who don't
(05:57):
back him with getting knocked out so fast. According to
the President, the GOP can only afford three no votes
from its members if all Democrats remain opposed. Some conservatives
feel the bill doesn't make enough cuts to spending. The
Nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates the original
version of the bill would add three point three trillion
(06:18):
dollars to the deficit.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So one of the hold outs is Congressman Ralph Norman,
who was live here in the seven o'clock hour yesterday
and I replayed some of it in the eight o'clock
hour here yesterday, and he said, we have an opportunity
now to stand for cuts to our budget. We have
a spending problem. This opportunity has not been taken, frankly
(06:41):
by the controlled Republican controlled House Senate, and frankly the presidency.
Lasco around with President Trump, and you've got Chip Roy
along with Norman, and I forget the third. There were five,
so they're slowly getting picked off, and Representative Norman eventually said,
I think we should work through the weekend. It's a
fourteen hundred page bill. This is what we're elected to do,
(07:05):
is to be here, hunkered down and work, even though
it's Memorial Monday. But you see they're pushing through the
night and into the morning this morning, I mean they
literally started this morning.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah. But so he also said that he's not going
to stand in the way of the bill. So you
say he's a holdout, and he presents himself that way,
but then he says he's not going to not let
the bill pass.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So I have a hard time believing that three holdouts
are going to And we'll see. So we'll hear from
the Representative Ralph Norman here coming up and he can
lay out his own I found about twenty thirty seconds
where he explains why, now this is what you know,
we're representative of our constituents to do. Now put, his
(07:51):
constituents are pushing back and saying pass the big beautiful bill,
which in the un he says he will. But he's
willing to take a stand, even if it means working
all the way through the long Memorial weekend, because they're
going to kick it over to the Senate and people
like Massy are going to send back who knows what.
But it's the House of Representatives that controls the purse
(08:12):
strings and of course also aided by the Senate or
depending depending on what they kick back. I mean Senator
Massy has his own things he's standing on.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, well in Ralph Norman, I mean, you can say
he's you know, taking a stand, but then at the
end of the day he says he's not going to
get in the way.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So I just wonder if he's going to get his
way and he's going to force people to work through
the weekend on this. Somehow I'm skeptical.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You're listening to Charleston's Morning News on ninety four to
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Speaker 1 (08:47):
Now back to Kelly and Blaze.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
You'll have a sixty eight percent tax increase, or you'll
get a massive tax increase. You'll get a tax cut
the likes of which we've never had. This is bigger
than any Ronald Reagan tax cut. It's even bigger than
the tax cut.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
That I get new the Sporting Congress over in the House,
still debating the big beautiful bill. Welcome into a Wednesday
edition of the program here in ninety four to three WSC.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Well, they have a lot of debating to.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Dot's sixty eight tax increase.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well, if they let this sunset, you know, the President
Trump's original tax cuts will expire this year, So if
they don't do anything. Taxes are going up, and it'll
be the biggest tax increase in modern day history.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's a no brainer. This has to pass.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah. Well, and this is the danger of lumping it
all together, right, because if it doesn't pass, then taxes
are going up.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Well, and it deals with tax cuts, it deals with
border security. To your point of lumping it all together,
there are so many issues.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, I mean, so people wanted to, you know, do
separate bills for all of this. Some did, but then again,
you know, sometimes you have to act boldly and swiftly
to fix things and get things done. So that's what
they're trying to do. Otherwise you would operate like every
other administration, where you know, they move at a snail's pace,
(10:20):
and a lot of the things that they wanted to
get done they simply don't. They run out of time.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Well, yet we continued to complain when they kicked the
fiscal can down the road of spending us into oblivion,
which is a national security threat to our country and
being under the thumb of China financially. So and I
remember Lasco around or the trub administration. People were pretty
upset when there was no spending restraints and cuts of
(10:47):
a significant amount with regards to balancing our federal budget
Alaska around when Republicans controlled the House, Senate and White House.
So if they don't stand now, then win.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Well I don't know, but I don't think you can
get all of this done and balance the budget at
the same time. I mean, it seems to me that
would be an impossible task.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well, we'll find out. It's continuing to unfold. And I
mentioned Ralph Norman's one of the holdouts. He is the
only South Carolina member in the House and joined us
here on ninety four to three WSC Live yesterday ahead
of Well, there was a Friday vote. They were up
there in DC on Friday, and this is in the
(11:33):
Budget Committee of which he's a member of and he
voted no, and then he showed up over the weekend
and voted present. Now we're debating it out and then
there where I believe three holdouts. At this point, he's
one of three. I know Comer is another one of them,
and I can't find the third guy. But at the
(11:54):
end of the day, we'll see. We'll see if the
hold out he's already said, and we'll hear from him
coming up that he's not going to hold out forever.
There's too much good stuff in here. No tax on tips,
no tax on overtime, no tax on social Security.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Well, and a lot of this will I mean, you
have to wonder too when they say, all right, it's
going to cost the economy this much, or you know
it's going to add to the debt by this much.
I mean, is it really so in the past when
tax cuts have been implemented and you make some of
these changes the coffers and it's already happening, are work there.
(12:31):
The federal government is collecting more money than ever, so
you know there, So it's spending is the problem. And
I want to see each one of these congressmen really
stand on principle and vote against something that's bringing money
to their district because they are so principled and they're
finally making a stand, and if not now, when it's never,
(12:55):
it's never on something that is going to prevent my
money from coming to their district. So that's when I'll
know that they're telling the truth and that they're sincere
in their efforts.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Well, to Congressman Norman's point, this is money being siphoned
out of his district. That shouldn't be that's going for
Medicaid checks, for example, to people who are in our
country illegally. So if you want to look at it
that way, that's at least how he's looking at it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Well, my point is is that and so he says
he's a standout on it, and then but he's really not.
And so I mean, at the end of the day,
what does all of that mean. I guess, you know, Well,
we'll give him the chance to say it in his
own words. That's coming up next.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Your news, traffic, weather, and Information station. This is Charleston's
Morning News on ninety four to three WSC.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Now back to Kelly and Blaze.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
And the ongoing live battle in DC. This morning started
at one a m. With congress members like Ralph Norman,
who joined the program around this time yesterday, who is
one of the key holdouts of Republican representative here out
of the Palmetto State. He says, this cuts no spending,
it increases our debt. The President's big beautiful bill he's
(14:21):
holding out. He really wants Medicaid work requirements, claims twenty
five million able bodied Americans are getting checks and that
there should be work requirements with regards to medicaid. He
wants to stop our federal tax dollars from landing in
the hands of illegal migrants who don't pay into our system.
(14:41):
And so at the end of the day, I said,
you know, with all the holdouts and all the blustering,
do you really think we're going to see in any
cuts when it comes to spending in this bill?
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Well, you know, yes, but it's a two drop in
the ocean eighty I think when you poll it, eighty
two percent of American people know we have a problem.
There are sixteen countries that have a higher debt rating
than the leader of than the country that leads the
free world America. Sixteen countries and we just going to
keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. No,
(15:13):
So I mean I don't And this just isn't that hard.
I told the Becaucus not long ago, if I had
to fight for this, is this not a given that
you know again it should illegals get a government paycheck? No,
And you know it just goes to show you once
you give somebody something, it's just hard to take it
(15:34):
back when they can get by with that. I thank God,
South Carolina has a constitutional a membent that you have
to balance the budget. We would be in the same
shape of the federal like the federal government if we
let that go. And I'm just not willing to do that.
Now there is a time to negotiate, then there's a
time to moving on. This bill has got too many
(15:54):
great things. And you think I'm going to stop the
whole thing. No, I wouldn't, but we've got to take
time to get it. And you know when you say,
if people say you stopped it, well it's worth stopping
it for two days, three days. It's gonna sit in
the Senate anyway, and they're gonna come back with god
knows what. But bottom line, you know, the House controls
(16:17):
the purse rings, and I have a duty to the
people that put me in office to do the best
I can to cut spending. And again, we don't have
an income proble. We got a spending problem. And they
spend riffs who you know will take every dime free
dollars that they get. I'm sorry that day's over with.
And Donald Trump is leading the charge on that.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So to be continued, Well, I mean, what is he
doing to stop it? Is he introduced to any kind
of legislation to U, you know, or amendments.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
To the bill, I would imagine, So I can't answer
that I don't have that in front of me, spac.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
All I see in all of the news stories that
I've read is that, you know, these guys are Enopeian,
you know, because of the because there's not enough spending cuts.
But I haven't seen what they're doing necessarily to try.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
To correct that well, And just because it isn't being
reported doesn't mean it isn't happening. He isn't on the
you know, the House Fiscal Budget Committee, And this is
why he was back up on Friday, and this is
why he's pushing back saying, I don't mind staying through
the weekend. I know it's Memorial weekend, but this is
a fourteen hundred page bill, and if we don't work
(17:30):
on this now, we're not going to get another opportunity,
or we might not have another opportunity down the road
with a Republican controlled House, Senate and White House. So
I'm just I'm not saying I agree with At the
end of the day, he's already said I'm going to
vote this through, right, So.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I don't get what you know, what if you're in
a negotiations, he's making a political point and he wants
to run for South Carolina governor. And I'm not attacking
Ralph Norman, but this is what politicians to. So, oh,
he's not going to stand in the way of the bill.
So if you're in a negotiation and at the end
(18:06):
of the day you say, you know what, this deal
is going to go through anyway, you just took the
thunder out of any kind of position you have at
the negotiating table, and you're just I'm trying to think
of a pandering Well, no, I was trying to think
of a cleaner way to put it than what I
(18:26):
was originally going to put it. You know, you're just
you're you're shouting into the wind, and think of that,
and with the P word into the wind, because otherwise, what.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Are you doing?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
What are you doing pandering in some way you already
and not in some ways to say that you're not
going to stand in the way of this, but you're
going to stall it. What at the end of the
day does that accomplished other than you're trying to get
So no, he's just getting some more words in.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
The trying to get more people on his side, more
Republicans who claim to be fiscal Republicans on his side.
And I go back to, you know, pre Biden and
Trump first administration, how frustrated everybody was with the Republican
House controlled Senate as well as the White House, and
they did nothing to fix the fiscal problem in our country.
(19:19):
So there's part of me that agrees with his stand
on this right now. Now, is he going to get anywhere?
Maybe not, but at least he's taken the stand. I mean,
Chip Roy, I where get Pip Roy? He's another one
that I respect.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
This is my point. At the end of the day,
if you already say wow, I'll end up supporting it
at the end of the day anyway, then where are
you going to get with it?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well? Why not? Why not find out that answer by trying?
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I mean, that's because it makes absolutely no sense at all.
That's why I don't. So why don't you sit down
at the negotiating table next time you buy a house
or a car, why don't you tell the party that
you're buying it from, that you're going to go, that
you're going to pay their price at the end of
the day. But you're going to make some other point
in the meantime. It's like, what what what does that
(20:08):
accomplish at all? You might as well sign it right now.
That's what you're saying. You're gonna do well.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Time is going to tell how this all shakes out.
I'm curious what you think. Seven to two one talk
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