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May 15, 2025 • 22 mins
You Can Believe Several Things At Once
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Morning News with Kelly and Place on ninety four to
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
We're covering this morning's top stories. The Secretary of Health
and Human Services is telling Congress he doesn't think anyone
should take his medical advice. During a house hearing yesterday,
Robert F. Kennedy Junior was asked if he'd vaccinate his
own children for measles. Kennedy replied, probably for measles, then
quickly pivoted and said, my opinions about vaccines are irrelevant.

(00:48):
He then added, I don't think people should be taking
advice medical advice for me. Kennedy has a history of
questioning the effectiveness and side effects of vaccines, but has
since said vaccines have a critical role in healthcare.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I just have a tough one with this one because
our previous you know, the h ass secretary was Xavier Bakara,
but then you had you know, Rachel Levine, and I'm sorry,
where was the don't.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I think Rachel Levine was the assistant.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Right role?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, I'm sorry. So I wouldn't taken medical advice from,
you know, a guy dressed up as a gal either,
So anyway, I don't, I don't, I'd rather. I'm just
thankful that we have adults back in charge and when
it comes to trusting their advice when it comes. I

(01:40):
mean he's not giving his advice on medical I mean
he's he's calling the experts or corraling them. I should say.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
They'd paint this as a binary choice. So of course
you can question the effectiveness and bring up the side
effects of vaccines and not be a total anti vaxxer. Right,
you can. You don't have to either believe in climate
change or not believe in climate change. You can believe
that the climate's changing and not buy in all their

(02:10):
bs on what we have to do about it and
change our whole economy and do the you know, green
new deal in all these things. So but in politics
they try to paint you into a box. So you
can believe several things at once. And it's not necessarily
a binary choice of you know, do you believe in
vaccines or not? Sir, it's you know, I mean to me,

(02:34):
the smart thing to do would be to question some
of these things. Hey, is there a correlation here? It
appears there may be between say, autism and vaccines or SIDS,
you know, sudden infinite death. Let's explore this more. It
doesn't mean that you're totally anti vaccine.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well, and not only that, when they do pieces like
this and make it about RFK Junior and not about
the problem you're not focusing on well, testifying the Congress, Yeah,
I know, I understand that. But again they're making it
about RFK Junior, trying to paint him as some sort
of anti vaxxing whack job. And to your point, this
is what the left does, and the whole group think

(03:16):
of it's black or it's white, and there's come on.
Of course, it's smart to play in the gray and
ask questions of people who are scientists and this is
their job. And I appreciate the fact that the man's
not up here trying to pretend to be something he's not.

(03:36):
He doesn't have a history of you know, being a
medical advisor in that fashion doesn't mean that he can't
be our Health and Human Service as secretary.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Well, a lot of times when you're testifying the Congress,
it's simply for you know, these congressmen, congress people, what's
the proper term now to just grandstand for how how
many minutes they have and do the I'm talking now,
and I'm asking the questions. I mean, so many of

(04:08):
them come to mind, including our own Nancy Mace. They
get up there and they grandstand, and they don't give
the witness any chance to answer the questions, and then
it's a yes or no question, right, And it's more
statements than it is questions a lot of times.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
So Ted Baxter and Murray might be jealous.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
That story's coming up next.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Listen all day.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
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Speaker 3 (04:35):
Good Thursday morning to you, Thanks for joining us this morning.
Yesterday we were talking about seventies and eighties TV shows.
We've been mentioned one particular show, the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Well,
the Mary Tyler Moore Collection is up for auction, featuring
memorabilia from both her own Show and from her time
on The Dick Van Dyke Show. The collection will showcase

(04:56):
nearly three hundred pieces of artwork, memorabilia, and deck of
objects from Moore's Greenwich, Connecticut home. Doyle Auctioneers and appraisers
will have select items on display at Doyle Beverly Hills
from May sixteenth to the twentieth and Doyle New York
City beginning May thirtieth, before a live auction on June fourth.

(05:17):
Moore's career earned her seven Primetime Emmy Awards, three Golden Globes,
at Tony Award, and at Oscar nomination.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I hope it brings them a lot of cash. I
can't think of a piece of memorabilia from the show
that I would be like, yes, let's pay millions of dollars.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Well, it depends what it is. I don't know. What
about the hat she throws in the air.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
You know I love hats.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's the beginning of the Mary Tayler Moore Show. How
much would that hat be worth? This is the actual
hat that she threw in the air.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
We're going to find out.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
You know a lot of times I wonder about the
so you have to prove the provedance, right, And so
I know of people at radio stations in the past
that would do things like win Aerosmith's couch and it

(06:12):
wasn't Aerosmith's couch. You went up to like the second
hand store and bought an old used couch and then
made up a story how they hauled it around in
their tour van. And you're giving away Aerosmith's couch or whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
You sure you have to disclose that this is the
real deal.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
No, you don't. Come on, well not in the case
of you know, some rock station giving away Aerosmith's couch.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Clearly that has you know that people understand that's a joke.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
I would hope, Well maybe some of them don't. I'm
just saying I think of you know, how many fraudsters
are out there saying, well, this is the real deal. Now,
I'm sure this stuff because it's done through an auction
house and everything, so they can prove the prominance. But
I always think, you know, like when I just brought
up about throwing the hat in the air, like could

(07:00):
think about all the stuff people can make up and say,
you know, this is the real deal here, and how
would you even know the difference?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I can't wait to take a look at some of
the auction items and follow it and see what they
go for.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Maybe Murray's sweater, you know, Ted Baxter's, maybe blue sports coat,
suit coat. Maybe mister Grant's bottle of whiskey kept in
his desk, the ottoman that Dick van Dijke trips over
at the beginning of that show, The Dick van Dyke Show.

(07:32):
I don't know. I didn't look at the items they're
going to be available in the auction, But if you're
a Mary Tyler Moore fan, you may be interested.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Now Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Place seven fifteen,
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
So we were talking about the Department of Homeland Security
Secretary Christy Nomes. She appeared before a House Homeland Security
committee was supposed to be about her budget. You have
California Democrat Congressman Eric Swallwell, this guy, oh, he's hard
to take, but he's pressing the secretary about or Brego
Garcia was deported and we all know this guy at

(08:08):
this point. By now, what the Trump administration called un
administrative error, I believe is what they are calling old Kilmar.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, that's what they originally said that it was an
administrative air that he was deported to this Salvadoran prison.
And then they're like, well, now wait a minute, he's
a member of MS thirteen and we're not going to
bring him back. So that the White House didn't do
themselves any favor the administration by at first painting this

(08:38):
as an administrative air, and the whole thing is over
a judge's ruling back in the Biden administration. By the way,
when the Biden administration originally tried to deport this guy,
By the way, when's the last time it's ever framed
this way? And this is the truth. The Biden administration
tries to deport him, a judge blocks it because he

(09:01):
says that his life's in danger from an opposing gang,
by the way, not that oh well, he just just
because he has some tattoos. You're framing him as an
MS thirteen gang member. This all stems from his original deportation.
And the judge said no because an opposing gang in
El Salvador would put his life at risk, and so

(09:22):
he was allowed to stay. And then the Trump administration
deports him to the Self salvador In jail. And originally
because there was this judge's order said that it was
an administrative mistake until clearer heads prevailed and said this
is a bad guy and he's a gang member, and no,
he's not coming back. And so that's where we find

(09:43):
ourselves right now.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, and Secretary of no made a point yesterday during
these hearings to say she believes Habeas corpus could be
suspended because the amount of illegal immigration under former President
Biden counted as a rebellion or invasion. That's another layer. Well,
you know, because I don't know if I'm for that,
but well, the Supreme Court, you know, they rule the

(10:05):
administration must give people due process before deporting them. So
here's where we are. This is a mess. How can
we possibly do that with millions of people.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's a whole total mess, And you can't, you know,
take each one individually to court. And they're here illegally
in the in the first place, and so you know,
are they and these judges are all ruling about their
rights under the Constitution. So first of all, you have
to to me, you need to establish whether these illegal

(10:38):
aliens have the same rights as naturalized citizens and you know,
naturally born citizens to the United States. So does somebody
that is not is not a citizen of this country.
Does the constitution of this country equally apply to them?
So let's start there and then that will clear up
some of these matters that they're arguing about in these

(11:00):
lower courts. Won't solve the whole thing, but at least
it's a roadmap, and we know from which point on
the compass we're starting. Right now. It is flailing about
with all of these because it's a whole broken system
and it's been utilized to attack the United States of America.
And I don't know how you can frame it any

(11:22):
other way. And that these Democrats, including the Biden administration,
allowed this to happen and knowingly allowed this to happen,
then you have to question what was motivating them.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, yeah, exactly. Well, and we're uncovering so much with
the Department of Government efficiency, the money being funneled through
these non governmental organizations, how this whole thing was orchestrated. Frankly,
it's well, this goes deep, and it's dark.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
In my opinion, In sinister, it's an attack on your freedom,
it's an attack on the United States, and it's an
attack on the constitution, an attack on the taxpayers. It's
an attack on a whole lot of things. And what
it is at the end of the day is it's
Marxist trying to tear down this system so they can
implement their system. And we'll get to James next, but

(12:16):
I was having that conversation with him. You know, this
is in order to tear us down and rebuild it
in their own Marxist fashion, whether it's socialism or communism,
which are almost the same thing. You know, socialism is
communism junior. But at the end of the day, call
it what you will. It's about control and are you
going to have freedom? Are you going to be controlled

(12:38):
by these people? And this is all a move to
strip away what has been and replace it with more
control over you.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
This is Charleston's Morning News with Kelly and Place.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Thanks for being with us on this Thursday morning. I
hope you're doing well. Finally, some good news out of Harvard.
A copy of the mag Nikarta that's been sitting in
a Harvard library for eighty years turns out to be
one of the originals from Well this says thirteen hundred.
That doesn't make any sense. Magna Carta was signed in I.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Think twelve fifty twelve eighteen. Yeah right.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
The New York Times says the faded parchment was purchased
by Harvard for about twenty seven dollars in nineteen forty six,
and it received little attention until about two years ago.
That's when two British professors stumbled upon it by accident
while looking through these school's digital archives. After some high
tech authenticating, they discovered it was one of the seven
original copies of the Magna Carta from over seven hundred

(13:38):
years ago, and it could be worth millions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Twenty seven dollars they paid twenty seven dollars for this.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I mean, that's a historic document and it was the
first time in history that you know, it was discussed,
you know, about people having fundamental freedoms and so what
a historic document. And then to find that just you know,
sitting in probably a cedar chest in Harvard's attic. I
don't know where this is, where they've got it wild,

(14:11):
But to find out that this is an original copy
that's over seven hundred years old, dating back to twelve fifteen.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Wow, this is like antiques roadchho on steroids here. So
the original document is signed by King John of England
and Runny Mead. Okay, so you said the date on
it was thirteen hundred, even though he signed it back
June fifteen, twelve fifteen.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
But yeah, well that's why I corrected it when I'm
like the you know, the news story sas thirteen hundred.
But the Magna Carta was signed in twelve fifteen.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
But laid the foundation, as you said, for fundamental freedoms
and the rule of law, and not just in England,
but later here in the United States of America. Can
you imagine having a copy of the Magna Garda.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Well, it's the basis of everything that we believe is
you know, that our rights are given to us by guy,
that we have inherent freedoms, and that was never mentioned
in humanity. People were slaves and you know, run by
kings who were considered to be gods. And so the

(15:13):
Magna Carta upended all of that. And so our whole
modern understanding of freedom and belief in freedom and personal
liberties all stems back from the Magna Carta. So what
a find at Harvard.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well landmark document in world history. What are they going
to do with it?

Speaker 4 (15:33):
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Speaker 4 (15:42):
Back to Kellyan Blaze, I'm.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Thrilled to be here with the men and women who
embody American strength and pride, the warriors of the United
States Armed Forces.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
It's an amazing group of people.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
You are, without a doubt, the greatest fighting force in
the history of the world. You really looked like a
Trump rally with ten thousand troops US troops. The speech
there at the Alu d'dair base, largest military installation mentioned
before the break in the mid East, the President two
of his four day Mid East trip. I mean, so

(16:17):
far we're looking at he says up to a billion
dollars in investments and we'll see or is it a
trillion with a t hold on, I'm trying to add
up all the deals so far. He was just saying
in that speech that Cutter was going to invest ten
billion in this base, in this US base. So, I mean,

(16:40):
we already talked about the Boeing deal that's in the millions,
But I do believe this administration is saying it could
be up to a trillion dollars in investments leading to
millions of jobs. Back in America before he gets home.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Well, yeah, and they're cutting deals on AI and all
kinds of different things. And he's not alone. He has,
you know, some of the top business leaders in the
United States with him on this trip.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh yeah, they've this is day three.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
They're you know, uh, we're wrapping it up. So but
he still has more of these meetings and more of
these announcements of these deals made coming up.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Well, and he's continuing speaking of deals to say, we
need your help when it comes to a deal with Aron.
He's hinting that we're closer at it. I hope you
can help me with the Iran situation because it's a
perilous situation and we want to do the right thing.
Of course, we have to agree on what the right

(17:34):
thing is. Ron wants news the.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Right thing stopping having a nuclear box exactly and stopping
them from being able to uh, you know, finance terrorism.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
All over the world, which has happened under the previous administration.
And frankly goes back to Barack Obama and Palalt, the cash,
shady deals on tarmacs and the night back to Jimmy Carter.
I'm just speaking, you know, more recently and it's unbelievable
to me look at what has happened and broken out

(18:13):
all over the world. I mean, just Israel Hamas, the hooties,
the emboldened deadly attacks.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well this goes back to you know, after they deposed
the Shaw of Oren and you know, and then the
Ayatola Kumani took over and all of a sudden, they're
a terrorist regime and they took American hostages. And then
they kept those American hostages for several years, and while

(18:46):
Carter tried everything to including sending like helicopters in and
those crashed and the mission to rescue these hostages failed,
and the hostages weren't let go until the day that
Ronald Reagan was inaugurated, and they tried to frame it that, oh,
that victory came just a little too late for Jimmy Carter,

(19:06):
who's been working tirelessly to make this happen. And then
he didn't even get the credit because you know, they
did it on the day of Ronald Reagan's inauguration. The
reason they did it on the day of Ronald Reagan's
inauguration was to not only usurped the news cycle of
Reagan being you know, sworn into office, but also because

(19:29):
they knew that Reagan wasn't going to put up with this,
and they respected his strength and they believed that he
would do what he said he was going to do.
And immediately upon taking office, they let those hostages go.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Gee, does that sound familiar? Same thing that's happening under
this president. Look at Hamas returning just days ago. Well
one American still this is a This didn't happen under
the previous administration. Listen on a world stage, clearly it shows.

(20:07):
Look at the leaders coming around this president showing strength,
saying I want peace, but if in of course, I
want your help in keeping the peace. But at the
end of the day, violent military action will be taken
if necessary, to stop you Iran, for example, from building news.

(20:29):
And you don't think Amas understands that Trump meets business.
Israel certainly is continuing, by the way, in the region to.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Fight. By the way, that continues to play games, Ran
continues to play games, China continues to play games. So remember,
you know, and this feeds in our news cycle picks
up on this. Remember we're like, oh, you know, it's
the end of the world economy. These Trump tariffs and
how ridiculous this one hundred and forty five percent terrified China,

(21:00):
and China's not even coming to a negotiating table, and
China's thumbing their nose at us. China's putting up videos
fighting back in all of this, and it was all
doom and gloom and chicken little from the media. It
turns out that China and China's like, we're not involved
in any direct negotiations with the United States, and they're
all like, look at Trump, this buffoon reckon the world economy.

(21:23):
Turns out that China was negotiating with the United States
the whole time.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Well, yeah, I mean, the propaganda press is apparently hasn't
gotten the memo that there's a new president in charge.
And by the way, he's had a footprint previously in
his first term of negotiating tariffs successfully for America, and
now it's just on a much larger, massive scale, and

(21:49):
it needs to be done. It needed to be done.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
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