Mission:Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One

TC and Jordan talk about the newest Mission:Impossible.

Episode Transcript

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Is there anything more poorly made?I don't think our audio audio cable than
an audio cable stereo audio cable andone that's in the Freak Talk studio that
really takes a beating too. Yeah. I bet Joe bro hand me that
ox as soon as ninety seven onethe Freak. I'm tc fleming here with
Jordan George Richards Simon. We gotour final segment of the Dirtbag Coult Hour

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for Saturday, l twenty ninth.We've been talking about the big movies of
the some movies we went through Barbielast week was Oppenheimer, and now we're
onto Mission Impossible, and really,I find it a bit of a crime
that this is being relegated to halfa show because Mission Impossible I'm as excited

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about as anything I I I justthink that the franchise in general, this
one, it was so good,it was so good, was not as
good as Mission Impossible. Fallout Isthat the one where he skydives from high
altitude? Yeah? Fallut Yeah.Jump, that's the best one with the
Halo jump. I think it's thebest action movie ever made. I think

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it's setting entirely new bar for thegenre. And uh, you know,
so anything that's like in that continuum, I'm pretty excited to h to see
some more of I can't wait forthe you know, the last chapter of
this movie. It was a greatcliffhanger. I do know what's going to
happen with the world in the computer? You do? I do? I

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do? I very much want toknow what's going to happen to the world
and the computer. The mission impossible, but Fallout and Fallout nailed it in
so many different categories for me aswell, Like we were talking about before,
like the acting, it just seemeda little more sophisticated than this one.
I know they're they're cornball, notcornball, but they I know that
they are cornier than the Born seriesor some of the other like h you

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know, intelligence related action films,you know, of the similar genre.
I know that they're a little moreor popcorny, not intended to be as
realistic. Yeah, that's a that'sa smarter way to put it, I'd
say, but I'm not trying tobe smarter, but it was. I
think, am I Dead? ReckoningPart one is the most exciting, stressful

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movie that I've seen since Oppenheimer.All right, yeah, well you probably
didn't see that many movies in betweenjust Barbie. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. I mean itwasn't really presented this way, but
I think it was a Rogue Nationwas the one before Fallout, Yeah,
and that was kind of Fallout partone, and then Fallout was kind of

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Fallout Part two. Yeah. Andin general, your setup is going to
be a little less interesting than wheneveryou're paying everything off. So I think
this is setting up for Dead ReckoningPart two to be pretty special. I
bet so. I wonder what crazydeath defying thing he's going to do for
this one. Can't wait to see. I can't wait to see it.
There's always at least one, doyou know, really, but that big

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one? Do you know if it'sin the can yet or I don't think
so? Okay, they didn't mightbe them together or anything. Maybe,
I mean they certainly made it nolike it's all one thing, you know,
like they wrote them at the sametime, right, um, so
yeah, I don't know. Weshould look up. It's when Dead Reckoning
Part two has come the big firstworld problem I have. But I can't

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help when I'm watching a movie tobe like, man, this was made
two years ago. What have theydone in two years that could have made
this movie even better technologically speaking?Yeah? Yeah, I always I always
think that when our best men areworking hard on it, they are and
two years we'll see in two years, think about two years worth of our
shows. How much knowledge and amazingcontent is contained them. You reminded me

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this week we got a pretty bigcatalog already. That's exciting. I don't
know what episode this is. Doyou know what episode? Um? Yeah,
I can't wait to see it.Like they said this week at this
the congressional hearings about aliens, Ifound it remarkable to say when they can
talking about, you know, thingsoutside of known physical science that they've observed

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they did put the caveat on itand like it by saying, is we
won't have this for another ten years? So if yeah, they're saying the
way they were asking the guys whohad seen the technology, They were like,
is there any plane now that cando this? And they were like
no, And he's like, couldyou imagine that in the next ten to
twenty years we could make a planethat could do this? No? Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right.
I did hear one of them say, though, I don't think that this
is something we've ever seen before,have currently or capable of within the next
decade. Yeah, and I wouldlove to know. Yeah, that a
tik tak shaped object could go fromzero miles an hour airspeed to MOP three
in less than sixty seconds within thenext decade. I'm stoked. I'm around

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for it. Hopefully the world doesn'tburn by then. Yeah. You were
kind of mentioning this with the Gabrielthing in the last segment. But one
aspect that I really like about thesemovies. I mean, we all grew
up in a world where three movieswas the absolute maximum that you could make
of one franchise. Yeah. Yeah, more than that being thinking that you

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had more than Star Wars was justnutty, right, Uh, to decades
for the thirty Indiana Jones. Yeah, and for this situation that we're now
in where like, if you makea good one, they'll run off ten
of them bad boys, no problem. Uh, whenever it's done well,
it is, and they don't maketen unless they are done well. Uh.

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It is breathtaking. The behold DieFast and Furious. Yeah, the
fast, well fast and furious.I mean, if you're saying that those
aren't amazing. Okay, good,good good, because that that is the
other thing popping into my head oflike you know this, like like every
time you're like how much more couldthese characters lives have left to give up?

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Like because everything does seem like thebiggest thing it's ever Like finally we're
solving the conflict that's you know,the center of their personal life. And
then you're like, well, that'sit's solved. You know, that's that's
settled. So now like everything's gonnabe downhill from here. But no,
Dom's brother killed his dad and nowhe's got to get Revett. What's bigger

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than that? Yeah? I don'tknow. Man's Dead. Reckoning Part two
going to be the last one?Yes? Oh yeah yeah they said that.
Um And so the way that likeit, it just seems like it's
such a difficult, like screenwriting taskto keep on upping these stakes and re
establishing new levels. And they've doneit again, you know, like the
guy who like once once, theonce you see in the movie what they

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are talking about. It seems obviousin retrospect, you know, like,
oh yeah, what could be biggerthan why Ethan's in the IMF Yeah,
that's of course, that's the bigstory. Yea, the entire thing.
But like whenever I was watching Fallout, I wasn't thinking about I was thinking
that the biggest thing is finally gettingSolomon Lane to hold for a cat.
Yeah. Yeah. Do they everallude to in previous Mission Impossible films that

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he's essentially a prisoner, No,not really, guess a Jason Bourne type
deal too, right, well,not really Jason Bourne, you know,
but there's a that's a similar thatis, yeah, as a Manchurian prisoner.
Yeah, I mean I don't thinkthat they're really presenting it as Ethan
is a prisoner, because like hehe kind of says that, right at

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one point he's like, you know, he has a choice, but this
is what I want. Yeah,he has a choice, but initially want
to solve crimes, my buds,that's right. But initially his choices were
due this or go to prison.So he did. He did. He
did something like be a jewel heistor steel catalytic converters or something. I
don't think it was that he didsomething in which he had a special skill
set. You know, um lostone point here, it is a matter

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thank you here it is right here. You guys missed the visual of that
out there and listening. Yeah,yeah, we both used a finger pantomime
pandy. Yeah, he ended mesomething. I returned a finger. Yeah,
um oh something about oh yeah,yeah, yeah, I know the
end of the final Dead reckoning nextone. It's not going to happen,

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but I would love to hear everyone'sat least yours TC having seen the first
one, your odds on just theworld blowing up at the end of the
next one. Wouldn't that be coolif a movie stepped outside of its traditional
storytelling roles and just was like,hey, the world's over. I mean,
it'd be cliche at this point,it's already been done with which one.
Yeah, you're right, it doesshow. It shows a vision,

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it shows a vision of the worldending. But it wouldn't be something else.
I mean, the last James Bondwas pretty tight. They killed James
Bond. I didn't oh whoa,yeah, I didn't see it, and
it wasn't like something, well it'sa year ago, and you know mister
yeah, I don't care about spoileralerts. Yeah no, at the end,

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that killed James Bond. Yeah,I've only seen season two of the
Bear. Um. But yeah,one thing that, uh, all this
Mission impossible stuff makes me think about. So we're talking. We mentioned the
name Christopher McCorry. He's the director, writer, producer of these Mission impossible
movies. Um, he wrote TheUsual Suspects. Let's see if I can

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pull this up. Um is hein the Church? I don't think so,
but I don't know. Um.He wrote The Usual Suspects, then
had a couple of things. Hewrote a teleplay for a TV movie.
He wrote The Way of the Gunin two thousand and then he doesn't work

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again until two thousand and eight.Uh so in like, he's not It's
not like he wrote The Usual Suspectsand then they're handing him director of credits.
But then he writes Valkyrie, whichI've never seen. I guess i'd
liked to see it. It's prettycool. I watched it a year ago
or so. My recollection is thatit's a giant flop that everyone made fun.
I think it was a flop andI think it was made fun of.

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But in retrospect it's cool. Yeah, it's good because I like everything
that Tom Cruise and Christopher McQuary havemade together. So I bet that I
would like it, but it's it'swild to me because that that seems to
be where like you know, noweverything's good for him after that, now
like he's he writes that, Um, I guess it's a little bit before

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there he's directing things, although Ithink I'm just on the wrong page of
IMDb. Um, but that's wherehe first works with Tom Cruise and all
the big things that Tom Cruise hasdone since then. It's not just the
Mission Impossible stuff Jack Reacher, that'smccorrey. Edge of Tomorrow is McCary.
Have you seen that? No,it's great, cool, it's awesome cool.

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The Mummy reboot, which again I'venot seen, but I bet it's
good because it's Tom Cruise and ChristophMcCoury. He though did get made fun
of a lot when it came out. Top Gun Raverick McQuary wrote, yeah,
um, and then you know RogueNation fallout for the Mission Impossibles,
And so I just I read thisIMDb and I think that there is an

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incredible story here of just like Iwant to know about Christa mccourie's life.
I want to know what he wasdoing between two thousand and two thousand and
eight. I want to know everydetail in Clearwater, Florida. He might
have been in clear Water, Floridagetting some guy what do they call them?
It's not like adjustments, Yeah,yeah, getting audited yeah, um
and uh yeah for thoughts yeah,uh it's it was something I've been like

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bedeviled by thinking about this week ofHollywood is maybe the thing that our attention
is focused on the most. Andwhat is more ink spilled about than that?
But people like this, we're justwe're never gonna know, Like,
he's not gonna ever write an autobiography. Yeah, there's never gonna be
like a memoir where I get explained. It's just all just gonna be kind

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of what I can piece together bywhat sort of pops in my mind looking
at his IMDb. There might bea chance though that on a road trip
someday we visited him in his eighties, I would love you. Yeah,
full his weird glasses, right,did you have the you had the thing
where Tom Cruise thank you for beinghere? Yeah? Yeah, of course

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yeah, and that's all they did. I love it. And uh,
I just I kind of looked atmy wife and I was like there was
something subliminal there about the church asscientology. Check there's something because they're just
like, we thank you for beinghere at the theater where this should be
enjoyed. I enjoy any of thoseguys that like are the absolute best of
what they've ever done, but don'tappear to be remotely comfortable with being like

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a human, like what you're describingof like him seeming uncomfortable in his acting.
Yeah, of course of the moviethat it's a very Alex Rodriguez like
quality. Yeah, and I lovethat, like anytime. It's just so
comforting to me, you know.Yeah, Uh, there's just a lot
that's it's it's a very pure distillationof the human experience to get everything that

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you want except for the things thatyou want. Yeah. Yeah, seriously,
how must that feel? Yeah,So, I I really like Tom
Cruise. I like thinking about TomCruise, I like watching him in movies
do and that's kind of stuff forthe for the exact same reasons that I'm
saying. That almost sounds like criticismsbecause they can't help but bring it up.
But I do find it fascinating.Yeah, and I want all of

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it that I can get. Yeah, Yeah, but I don't know,
do you do you ever think aboutthat kind of stuff like the McQuary thing
I'm talking about of, like youknow, what's what's written about more than
than Hollywood? Right, but thesebig questions of like one of the guys
who, like, you know,everyone saw the usual suspects. Then he
goes totally underground for nearly a decade, does a flop with Tom Cruise,

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and now he controls a big blockbusterthat's coming out every couple of years,
right, and like, how whatwhat are the details of that? I
don't know expressly want to know thatstuff because I always not so much in
a theater, but at home weall do that thing where you're sitting there
with your laptop in your lap whileyou're watching a movie and you pull up
a Wikipedia page. Yeah, soof course I do that. I do

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that throughout something. When we discussedTar before, which is interesting because he
has do you recall the director's nameof Tar Todd todd Field, which exact
same thing, exact same thing.He had a Kubrick, He had a
Kubrick era. Yeah, and withhim and he met Tom Cruise. Then
he kind of went dark for awhile and then he pops up doing some

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big stuff, which you could arguetars big stuff it is. It was
nominated for Best Picture, but it'snot. It wasn't a blockbuster, yea.
And so it's funny that the commondenominator between two people who are now
major hitters in Hollywood who went darkfor a while, that their common denominator
is the spiritual guidings of Tom Cruise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And
it definitely sounded like Cruise was talkingto the field. Yeah, good amount,

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you know, like he's sort oftaking him on his wing to some
extent. Our buddy who you've metrecently, Seth Gamez, I don't remember
Seth. He's a movie buff ofscreenwriter and a great drummer, um shout
out. Seth told me a funfact about todd Field this week that I'm
about to burst your head wide open. He is one of the inventors of
Big League Chew. I did it. Yeah, and you haven't brought it

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yet. I think I think we'vetalked about yeah, director of Tar todd
Field, who worked, I mean, who was also an actor in Eyes
Wide Shut when he was like seventeenor something, was involved with the with
the inception of Big League chew chewincome. I feel like I'm in a
weird dream right now here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you might be.
I'm sorry. I hate when Iknow things like because it's like you're

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bursting the bubbles, Jone. Ilove that you knew it already too.
Well, if I would have beenthree Big League Cho, I mean,
my uh, this guy loves baseballand he loves movies. My mom worked
on the assembly line in the summers. What of Big League two? Like
the factor was near? Is thata Wriggly product? Yeah, yeah,
I gotta be yeah, yeah,yeah, it was that a Wriggly plant.

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Your mom worked in. It musthave been because I assume they're still
based in the Greater Chicago. That'sfascinating. I would love to see how
gone. So we're a big family, cool great big League of course I
know about all the all the biginventors. Okay, you really do.
I thought it might just be youknow, you were being sarcastic. But

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your mother worked in Pick League Cho, Yeah, I know she really did.
That's amazing. Had stories of justcoming home smelling like sugar for the
entire summer. Mom, that's nice. No freebees. I mean she was
like loose shreds. She was seventeen. She had me chose twenty six.

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She could have saved something. Yeah, Rob Nelson, the pitcher, and
Toddfield made it together. They pitchedit to the Wrigley Company. Was Todd
Field a baseball player? I thinkthat he did have, Like I mean,
I even the Rob Nelson was notlike a you know, star of
the big league exact thing. Butyeah, I think that this story is

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that he's somewhere on the diamond.I always wonder how much, you know,
there's go getters in this world,but I always wonder how much the
intersection of like wild facts about somebodythat goes on later to do something else
big, you know, how relatedthose notions might be. Yeah, and
it probably is. But that's thequestions we're tackling here on the show.
Jim Bouton, I believe was involvedin getting the idea in front of Wrigley.

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You know, Jim Bouten is no. He wrote a book about playing
baseball that's extremely good. Course it'slike the kind of the first like player
memoir, Okay, but like fromah, it's it's very it's very him,
you know, like it's not likea sanitized. Yeah, I like
the beginning of it's like bitching abouthis negotiations with the Yankees. Incredible.

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We truly have some thought leaders behindbig League qu Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
A meeting of the work with StanleyKubrick. I think I think Ball
four is the name of the book. Cool, I'll check it out.
Do you see that Mickey Mantle thingI sent you? Ye showed the show's
done? Not yet, with notime to tell you about Wicky Lantele having
a GRORL Grex underneath the Minikee stadiumbeats. Oh, I've heard about it.

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Thanks, folks, we appreciate yourlistening. This has been the dirt
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